--- Log opened Die Dez 09 00:00:14 2003
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00:19 < MadTux> re
00:19 < A-Tui> re MadTux
00:20 < MadTux> Aitor :)
00:20 < mnemoc> re *
00:21 < MadTux> H! mnemocy
00:21 < mnemoc> hi mike1
00:21 < MadTux> Mike1? where?
00:21 < MadTux> :
00:21 < MadTux> :)
00:22 < MadTux> mnemoc: query
00:24 < mnemoc> anybody knows about clipper-like linux compilers? xharbour, harbour, .ru's clip?
00:26 < rxr> hm?
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00:28 < mnemoc> have you experienced any of them?
00:28 < mnemoc> heard something?
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00:38 < rxr> mnemoc: nope - I just wondered about that names ... ;-)
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01:11 < rxr> netrunner: are you awake ?
01:11 < jsaw> hi all
01:11 < rxr> or anyone else that tried the 2.4
01:11 < rxr> ah hi jsaw 
01:11 < jsaw> running 2.4.23...
01:12 < rxr> coudld you email me your i2c patch ?
01:12 < rxr> I mean the i2c tarball you downloaded ...
01:12 < jsaw> that's the one with the download url from my patch
01:12 < jsaw> ah,
01:12 < jsaw> you mean the cksum errors, 
01:12 < jsaw> yes, when I get home.
01:13 < rxr> oehm - not handy?
01:13 < rxr> ok - I use my good old make a -rxr patch habbit
01:13 < jsaw> me is in the lab, but wait a couple of seconds...
01:13 < rxr> I think I need to throw in PPC fixes later anyway ...
01:14 < rxr> I have "soem patch" where only one chunk does not apply ...
01:16 < jsaw> rxr: patch sent to your geemx address
01:17 < jsaw> (can't post to the ml, 'cause outgoing sender addresses are rewritten here at the institute :(
01:18 < A-Tui> bye all
01:18  * A-Tui is away: dreamming,....
01:19 < jsaw> cu
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01:24 < rxr> jsaw: ok - thanks
01:26 < jsaw> btw, rocknet, besides some small errors: /me loves it
01:26 < jsaw> but now, who is going to make the pppoe module?
01:26 < rxr> jsaw: the one who asks ;-)
01:26 < rxr> I do the STONE module ...
01:27 < jsaw> btw, can we live without isa-autodetection for rc4? If so, I suggest making a new release for rockplug (even if it's damned slow currently...)
01:27 < mnemoc> i'll use them both :)
01:27 < jsaw> hi mnemoc!
01:28 < mnemoc> hi jsaw 
01:28 < rxr> jsaw: yes we can live without it ...
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01:28 < rxr> jsaw: I now have the first firewire device - and I might get a second one ...
01:29 < rxr> and I will also take a look into rockplug and the isa code ... - my free tiem of this week is finally dedicated to it ...
01:29 < jsaw> oh, this reminds me of the linux24 package again. Have you had a chance to look into fs/Config.in (devfs disabled for 64bit)? :(((
01:30 < rxr> jups - I rediffed the patch ...
01:30 < jsaw> which in turn reminds me of getting the linux 2.6 sysfs stuff straight for rockplug, ...
01:30 < rxr> but DevFS works fine on my UltraSPARC 5  - it is not a 64 bit problem alone
01:31 < jsaw> only x86_64
01:31 < rxr> maybe compiler bug or so - if AMD or SuSE or whoever gives me an Opeteron I'll track it ...
01:31 < rxr> jsaw: yeah I read it ...
01:32 < rxr> ok 2.4.23 kernel build now starting to pass the first extract and patching phase ...
01:32 < jsaw> we need some expert PR guy, that will get more hardware for us...
01:33 < rxr> hey cool "David Dawes" applied the XFree86 patch in the same night I submited it - maybe I finally got into his inbox filter? ;-)
01:34 < jsaw> :)
01:34 < rxr> jsaw: I have a AMD card in my desk - but I want to fix this:
01:34 < rxr> http://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/service/regtest/arch-x86_64/
01:34 < rxr> before I contact them ...
01:34 < rxr> and my iBook is just running a new x86_64 cross build just because of this ;-)
01:36 < jsaw> good! still, I wouldn't mind having some pro for business relations in the team...
01:36  * jsaw :-!
01:36 < rxr> jsaw: if you know one that wants to work in a OpenSource project, no problem ;-)
01:37 < rxr> hm, this:
01:37 < rxr> x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-ld -m elf_i386 -Ttext 0x100000  -o bvmlinux head.o misc.o piggy.o
01:37 < rxr> x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-ld: warning: i386:x86-64 architecture of input file `misc.o' is incompatible with i386 output
01:37 < rxr> make[2]: *** [bvmlinux] Segmentation fault (core dumped)
01:37 < rxr> seems to be a real linker or compiler bug - it happens on both x86 hosts and PowerPC hosts during a x86_64 kernel cross build ...
01:38 < rxr> but I need to go into bed in some minutes ...
01:38 < mnemoc> :-\
01:51 < jsaw> re, oki, sleep well, rxr
01:51 < jsaw> mnemoc: you installed rockplug from svn?
01:51 < rxr> cu all - n8
01:54 < mnemoc> jsaw: not yet :(
01:55 < mnemoc> no much time this week
01:57 < jsaw> oh, "time". Don't remember me of that word.
02:01 < mnemoc> you are physician, for you that has a very different meaning ;)
02:06 < jsaw> hehe
02:06 < jsaw> I guess it's a typo due to language interference, out of curiosity, what's physician and what's physicist in spanish? 
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02:09 < MadTux> re
02:09 < MadTux> ping mnemoc
02:10 < mnemoc> pong
02:10 < MadTux> :)
02:10 < MadTux> query
02:10 < jsaw> hi MadTux
02:11 < MadTux> jsaw: hello
02:11 < MadTux> jsaw: status on gnome?
02:12 < jsaw> with the previous patches sent, plus another one waiting for pygtk: very good.
02:13 < jsaw> A few rough edges remain. But these are related to stupid implementation... oh, no, I shouldn't say that - but /me never errs :)
02:14 < MadTux> lol
02:14 < MadTux> wait a minute
02:15 < MadTux> does this have anything to do with my previous work?
02:15 < jsaw> nope. Stuff like evolution-alarm-notify or multiload-applet crashing on exit etc...
02:16 < jsaw> metacity not really doing what it is expected to
02:16 < jsaw> (obviously is doesn't copy with xrandr really well) etc etc etc
02:16 < jsaw> s/copy/cope/
02:16 < MadTux> ah yeah
02:17 < jsaw> but /me likes rhythmbox! (oh, sound-juicer is also not doing fine, btw)
02:19 < MadTux> mm.. so well i am getting my last minimal iso to create myself a new _working_ system to get back into devel, so by monday or so i should be able to give you a hand, of course you are now the maintainer so i'll have to deal with ur rejects and so :)
02:21 < jsaw> This would be awesome. I'm pretty overworked. And I should polish rockplug a bit more. I'll send you my diffs for gnome24 in case it'll take longer for rxr to submit it.
02:21 < MadTux> jsaw: see query for my mail addy
02:21 < mnemoc> jsaw: do you plan to move rockplug to binary or not?
02:23 < jsaw> First I have to get the logic straight. But yes, I do plan to move to binary (based on diethotplug+klibc etc.) sooner or later.
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03:32 < mnemoc> *yawn*
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05:52 < demian> hi
05:52 < MadTux> hello debian
05:52 < MadTux> traitor.
05:53 < demian> MadTux.. traitor ?
05:53 < demian> hi first of all
05:53 < MadTux> change the god damn font color.
05:53 < MadTux> please.
05:56 < mnemoc> blue is better than pink ;)
05:57 < MadTux> mnemoc: well now he switched to black..
05:57 < MadTux> grrr..
06:22 < tobias>  Trillian v0.741 <- 
06:22 < mnemoc> what is that 1 doing there?
06:22 < tobias> not sure
06:23 < mnemoc> i have an f :)
06:23 < tobias> wanting an easy to install Lunix di1str0!!
06:24 < demian> hehe.. sorry
06:24 < demian> got to work
06:25 < demian> cya
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06:25 < mnemoc> tobias: do u ctcp version everyone?
06:36 < tobias> no
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06:37 < dev0> my own CTCP version is pretty embarassing too :B
06:38 < mnemoc> :)
06:46 < dev0> hey...
06:46 < dev0> at least it's not Trillian :B
06:51  * mnemoc wonders what is worse mirc or trillian 
06:52 < mnemoc> 'war' scripted mirc is worse
06:52 < dev0> NoNameScript .. haha
06:52 < dev0> QuakeNet kiddies
06:53 < mnemoc> at least trillian is _clean_ :)
06:54 < dev0> clean but colorful
06:54 < mnemoc> and means he doesn't use msn messenger
06:54 < dev0> Trillian supports MSN afaik
06:54 < mnemoc> yes
06:55 < mnemoc> but he choose to use another client
06:55 < mnemoc> not messenger
06:55 < dev0> okay
06:55 < mnemoc> :-\
06:55 < dev0> people using Messenger are smoking too much crack anyway
06:56 < dev0> But there's a better oss alternative in the form of Miranda available...
06:57 < mnemoc> much time has passed since last time i saw miranda
07:05 < MadTux> hi dev0
07:05 < MadTux> dev0: hpw did you go with the isos?
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07:06 < MadTux> mnemoc: i'm back
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07:35 < mnemoc> *yawn*
07:36 < MadTux> mnemoc: stop jawning, we need you to be more productive, code!
07:39 < mnemoc> :)
07:40 < MadTux> still here!?!
07:40 < MadTux> go code damn it!
07:40 < MadTux> this lazy geeks..
07:40 < mnemoc> :\
07:41 < mnemoc> ^ADD
07:43 < MadTux> grr!!!
07:43 < MadTux> :P
07:44 < blindcoder> moin
07:44 < mnemoc> moin nakedcoder
07:45 < blindcoder> ehm...
07:45 < MadTux> hi blindy
07:45 < blindcoder> I don't think being naked would be advantageous where I am right now
07:45 < blindcoder> moin mnemoc, hi MadTux 
07:47 < netrunner> blindcoder: no, please don't  ... nooo! ... aahrg 
07:47 < netrunner> :/
07:48 < MadTux> netrunner: he is willing to get naked, run is you don't want to loose ur eyes
07:49  * MadTux runs like hell away from blindy
07:49  * netrunner hides behind a ROCK
07:50 < MadTux> nety he will find u.. run
07:50 < blindcoder> I am _NOT_ naked!
07:51 < MadTux> and you think we will wait till you are?!
07:52 < blindcoder> I will _NOT_ undress in front of any of you! (well, on 20C3 perhaps before slipping into my sleeping bag, but other than that... )
07:52 < MadTux> NOTE: do not stay at nights at 20c3
07:53 < blindcoder> hrhrr
07:53  * netrunner walks afraid to work
07:53 < MadTux> netrunner: oh yeah owl is getting a driver license, so also walk afraid.. ph34r!
07:53 < blindcoder> netrunner: will you come past Tucherpark?
08:07 < blindcoder> narf
08:07 < blindcoder> Cleanup -full _really_ should have a safety net of some kind >_<
08:09 < mnemoc> blindcoder: again???
08:10  * mnemoc making plasma-coffee
08:11 < blindcoder> mnemoc: yes...
08:11 < blindcoder> in bash: ^Rnocheck<enter>
08:11 < blindcoder> too bad that there was a -full after -nocheck >_<
08:15 < blindcoder> but I've been able to get my Linksys WLAN Card up and running with ndiswrapper :)
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08:22 < mnemoc> if i write a feature for adding interactiveness to Cleanup -full that blindsomething will kill me
08:23 < MadTux> mnemoc: i warned you before, blindy and i will hunt you till the end of the world if you try to add features before a stable release
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08:23 < MadTux> well actually you live in the end of the world right?
08:23 < MadTux> *g*
08:23 < mnemoc> :|
08:23 < MadTux> just kidding man :)
08:24 < mnemoc> :)
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08:28 < blindcoder> actually, I really might kick rene to apply this thing BERFORE 2.0-final
08:29 < blindcoder> <div logic="twisted">since it is not a feature but a catastrophe prevenetion mechanism</div>
08:29 < mnemoc> :)
08:30 < mnemoc> blindcoder: take it positive, now you will start a clean-build with 2.4.23 :)
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08:30 < blindcoder> mnemoc: no, since it is not sure if 2.4.23 compiles now
08:31 < mnemoc> cross your fingers :) and if fails remove i2c-rene for patchfiles :)
08:31 < blindcoder> I just need a minimal system on my machine until 2.0-final is here *snif*
08:32 < blindcoder> ah well, I'll build generic so thast I can do Update-System :)
08:32 < MadTux> blindcoder: i am building minimal atm
08:32 < MadTux> maybe you will wanna have it after i finish my build
08:32 < MadTux> mnemoc: yes i will give you the iso
08:33 < mnemoc> i do not use sysvinit so i'll not use your dirty iso
08:33 < MadTux> its up to you 
08:33 < mnemoc> :)
08:33 < MadTux> :)
08:34 < MadTux> i was just trying to be generous
08:34 < mnemoc> you can share it for ppl who wants to start rocking ;)
08:34 < mnemoc> a shell can be very generous ;)
08:34 < MadTux> mnemoc: well this is more like for my personal use as i need a really a good system to make vROCK work :)
08:34 < mnemoc> after my last hw update i take 4 hours for building linux26
08:35 < MadTux> 4 hours 0_o
08:35 < MadTux> i told ya shell will be available as soon as cluster is ready a worthy box :)
08:35 < mnemoc> vROCK, i'll send THE BIG FSCKING INTRUSIVE PATCH tomorrow morning
08:36 < MadTux> mnemoc: cc to me please
08:37 < MadTux> then run away cause blindy will go after ur head
08:37 < mnemoc> you will get it from HEAD ;)
08:37 < blindcoder> mnemoc: I will urge rene to ignore it :)
08:37 < mnemoc> i'll silence you before
08:38 < blindcoder> try if you can
08:39 < mnemoc> is that a challenge?
08:39 < MadTux> am i supposed to get a side?
08:39 < blindcoder> you can take it as one
08:39 < blindcoder> MadTux: no, just some popcorn :)
08:40 < MadTux> hehe
08:40  * MadTux woinders if his opinion is worth something anymore
08:40 < mnemoc> i'll take the first concorde to there
08:40 < blindcoder> ehm... the concorde doesn't fly anymore, so are you trying to let me die of old age?
08:41  * mnemoc thinking
08:41 < mnemoc> ok, i'll let you live. this time
08:41 < blindcoder> *phew* I'm saved :)
08:43 < mnemoc> but remember, if you try to get an stable release before 2007 you will not live to see the grandchildren of your granchildren married
08:43 < mnemoc> and that's a promise
08:43 < blindcoder> oh, I'll handle that like fliying.
08:43 < blindcoder> I'll take care of the landing once I'm down :)
08:44 < mnemoc> ok
08:45 < mnemoc> be carefull
08:45 < mnemoc> and please, don't code naked anymore
08:46 < blindcoder> okay, I will :(
08:47 < MadTux> so i am off
08:47 < MadTux> n8 all
08:48 < mnemoc> MadTux: why this early?
08:48 < MadTux> mnemoc: dr said so
08:48 < mnemoc> :(
08:48  * MadTux has to rest more
08:48 < MadTux> besides i need to be up in 5 hours
08:48 < mnemoc> dr thinks you are human
08:48 < MadTux> so i will see you in the mourning mnemoc
08:49 < MadTux> yes he still thinks i am human.. stupid mortal
08:49 < mnemoc> cu MadTux 
08:50 < MadTux> cu mnemoc
08:50 < MadTux> :)
08:50 < MadTux> cu blindnudist
08:50 < blindcoder> bye
08:51 < MadTux> :)
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10:00 < maze_fan> 50% packet loss over a distance of no mare than 10 or 15 meters.... that just isn't normal  
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10:36 [ [anders]   ] [ dev0       ] [ kasc        ] [ netrunner] [ th       ] 
10:36 [ Aard       ] [ esden      ] [ KonvIRC_    ] [ nookie   ] [ trekkie3k] 
10:36 [ aszlig_    ] [ fake       ] [ maze_fan    ] [ praenti  ] [ true     ] 
10:36 [ blindcoder ] [ hopelessOwl] [ mistik1     ] [ rolla    ] [ WrKRobe  ] 
10:36 [ cchamilt   ] [ huebi      ] [ mnemoc      ] [ rxr      ] 
10:36 [ ChristianQt] [ ija        ] [ Nebukadneza`] [ SMP      ] 
10:36 [ cytrinox`  ] [ jani_      ] [ netcrow     ] [ snyke    ] 
10:36 [ daja77     ] [ jsaw       ] [ netrunne1   ] [ spectre  ] 
10:36 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 36 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 36 normal]
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10:46 < mnemoc> *yawn*
10:53 < maze_fan> jupp
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10:56 < mnemoc> maze_fan: how is your drum-network working? :)
10:57 < maze_fan> mnemoc: I'm currently trying to do a remote switch from ndiswrapper to driverloader
10:57 < maze_fan> but the >50% packet loss do collide with my efforts
10:58 < mnemoc> o_O
10:58 < maze_fan> yes
10:59 < maze_fan> 15 m distance between AP and NIC, and over 50% packet loss
10:59 < mnemoc> aarg... and exploit in cvs :(
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10:59 < maze_fan> now I'm trying to remotely switch from ndiswrapper to linuxant driverloader in hope that it helps
10:59 < mnemoc> linuxant scares me
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11:00 < maze_fan> I have no alternative, unfortunately
11:01 < maze_fan> 802.11G PCI WLan NIC from Linksys
11:01 < mnemoc> "This release fixes a security issue with no known exploits that could cause previous versions of CVS to attempt to create files and directories in the filesystem root." <-- believe or not believe... /me don't want to update more s.th today/night :|
11:01 < mnemoc> maze_fan: change nic :)
11:02 < maze_fan> mnemoc: there is not a single 802.11G nic supported by linux IIRC
11:03 < mnemoc> :(
11:03 < mnemoc> downgrade :)
11:04 < mnemoc> http://sourceforge.net/projects/madwifi/ ?
11:05 < maze_fan> broadcom chipset
11:06 < mnemoc> LinkSys WPC54A
11:06 < mnemoc> LinkSys WPC55AG
11:06 < mnemoc> Linksys WMP55AG
11:10 < hopelessOwl> moin
11:10 < mnemoc> moin owl
11:11 < hopelessOwl> hi mnemoc 
11:11 < maze_fan> moin owl
11:11 < hopelessOwl> hi maze_fan 
11:11 < hopelessOwl> .oO(a new face in #rocklinux ?)
11:11  * maze_fan == blindcoder
11:11 < hopelessOwl> ah so *lol* 
11:11 < hopelessOwl> hi blindy
11:12 < hopelessOwl> why this nickchange? O_o
11:12 < maze_fan> because the machione at home is quite unresponsive
11:12 < hopelessOwl> hehe. ok +
11:12 < hopelessOwl> - +
11:12 < mnemoc> maze_fan is better than nakedCoder :)
11:12 < hopelessOwl> *lol*
11:12 < hopelessOwl> yeah :p 
11:13  * hopelessOwl provides maze_fan some influenca-virus... --> (illCoder)
11:13 < mnemoc> sickCoder :)
11:14 < hopelessOwl> *hrhr*
11:14 < hopelessOwl> *gnarf* /me running to hug the toilet again. sorry. brb
11:17 < mnemoc> after that comment, i think i'll go to sleep
11:17 < mnemoc> gn8 *
11:17 < maze_fan> n8
11:18 < mnemoc> good luck maze_fan with your drum-network with ants
11:18 < maze_fan> thanks
11:18 < maze_fan> but it looks like it screwed up
11:19 < hopelessOwl> re
11:19 < hopelessOwl> gnu8 mnemoc 
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11:35 < hopelessOwl> *hrhr* the drums disappeard completely
11:38 < maze_fan> yeah
11:38 < maze_fan> the switch.sh script didn't work properly after all
11:39 < hopelessOwl> not well
11:40 < maze_fan> indeed
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11:49 < maze_fan> but since I think I know why it failed I'm going to call my mum later and tell her to press the reset button
11:49 < hopelessOwl> hehe. ok ;)
11:52 < maze_fan> muahahaha
11:52 < maze_fan> http://www.hackles.org/
11:52 < daja77> moin
11:52 < maze_fan> moin moin daja
11:53 < daja77> moin blindy
11:53 < ija> moin daja
11:53 < daja77> O_o
11:53 < hopelessOwl> hi daja77 , ija 
11:54 < ija> hi owl
11:54 < maze_fan> moin ija
11:55 < maze_fan> WEE! I finally have got my IS4IT E-Mail!
11:55 < maze_fan> After one and a half years :D
11:55 < daja77> hm?
11:55 < hopelessOwl> haeh???
11:55 < maze_fan> E-Mail-Address
11:55 < hopelessOwl> heh. congrats. 
11:55 < maze_fan> thanks :)
11:55 < hopelessOwl> .oO(in my company it only took about 3 month)
11:55 < maze_fan> well, it wasn't necessary for me to have one until recently :)
11:56 < daja77> <futurama>after 25 years i got my aol account</futuram> ...
11:56 < maze_fan> hehe
11:56 < hopelessOwl> tstststs *g*
12:40  * maze_fan back
12:46 < daja77> uhmmm kde-announce active once again
12:50 < daja77> rofl suse gcc 3.2 is broken ...
12:51 < maze_fan> no wonder, is it?
12:53 < daja77> wondering what they made wrong, rtai ppl stating that the kernel they compiled with it was a mess
12:53 < maze_fan> hmm
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13:05 < daja77> yeah mozex rules
13:06 < daja77> using vim for editing textareas ...
13:09 < maze_fan> doesn't w3m do the same?
13:10 < daja77> ...
14:07 < maze_fan> damn... I'm so fucking bored...
14:17 < maze_fan> narf
14:21 < hopelessOwl> hehe. /me jjust got the latest newspaper
14:22 < maze_fan> anything interesting?
14:22 < daja77> <MadTux>code!</MadTux>
14:22 < maze_fan> daja77: can't access the source because of screwed network
14:22 < daja77> oh
14:23 < hopelessOwl> still no time to read :p because my mum annoys me... (just got it about 3 minutes ago.. --> no time to read)
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14:37 < daja77> owl bein petted by mummie ...
14:38 < hopelessOwl> daja77: *kick*
14:38 < hopelessOwl> annoyed...
14:40 < rolla> re
14:40 < netrunne1> argl. how *** must one be to forward each incoming hoax to all contacts?
14:40 < hopelessOwl> *lol* 
14:40 < netrunne1> that's even better than any self spreading worm. do it yourself dos
14:40 < hopelessOwl> they're as clever as bush?
14:40 < daja77> hi rolla & netrunne1 
14:41 < netrunne1> hi daja77 
14:41 < daja77> netrunne1: don't tell me you are surprised by this
14:41  * netrunne1 is not really here. just sneaked in here from work 
14:41 -!- You're now known as netrunner
14:41 < netrunner> daja77: yes, when it happened several times, and each time I tell my dad ... then yes, I am surprised.
14:42 < daja77> ahem ok ...
14:42 < daja77> maybe he thinks resistance is not futile ...
14:44  * netrunner now replies with a quote of the Bad Times hoax.
14:44 < daja77> send it to everyone!
14:44 < daja77> ^^
14:47 < netrunner> cat badtimes.txt | mail -s "Bad Times" *@*.{com,net,org,de}
14:47 < daja77> netspammer ...
14:51 < maze_fan> I prefer the gullibility mailinglist
15:08 < cytrinox`> moin
15:10 < maze_fan> moin moin
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15:47 < rolla> crazy irc servers
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16:02 < MadTux> re all.
16:02 < daja77> re maze_fan 
16:02 < daja77> re MadTux 
16:02 < MadTux> hi daja77 :)
16:02 < MadTux> ping jsaw
16:03 < rolla> hallo MadTux 
16:03 < MadTux> hi rolla :)
16:03 < jsaw> pong MadTux 
16:03 < jsaw> hi all
16:04 < MadTux> jsaw: got your patches thanks.
16:04 < daja77> hi jsaw 
16:04 < jsaw> hi daja77 
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16:24  * MadTux debuging a few base errors
16:25 < MadTux> spect patches ;)
16:25 < daja77> thx for the warning ^^
16:25 < MadTux> daja77: what made you think its a warning?
16:25 < MadTux> *g*
16:26 < daja77> sounds like one :O
16:26 < mnemoc> MadTux: do u want to update xfsprogs?
16:26 < MadTux> nah, no patch bombs today
16:26 < MadTux> mnemoc: i will but later, right now i want to geta  clean build of minimal as is and fix any error i find
16:27 < daja77> have you thrown out rfcs from minimal?
16:27 < mnemoc> errors on clean minimal???
16:27 < mnemoc> 2.4.23i2clm_sensors?
16:28 < MadTux> mnemoc: stupid error ie wiretools not been able to copy rocknet_wireless.sh to $root/etc/network/modules because the dir is created when iproute2 is built which is some packages _after_ wireless-tools..
16:28 < mnemoc> are wiretools built before iproute2?
16:28 < MadTux> mnemoc: yup
16:28 < mnemoc> o_O
16:29 < MadTux> wireless-tools 736.000 , iproute2 787.000
16:29 < mnemoc> drum-tools are not on my minimal
16:30 < MadTux> so wireless-tools will fail on stage one cause of this. is a rall y dump thing, fixed it 
16:30 < mnemoc> god bless mkdir -p
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16:32 < mnemoc> blindcoder: how are your ants?
16:34  * mnemoc hates phorum-like apps
16:34  * daja77 too
16:45 < MadTux> mnemoc: yeah
16:45 < MadTux> actually all targets user wireless-tools and iproute2, so i'll make a patch to remove the line from iproute2.conf and leave it only at wireless-tools.conf
16:47 < mnemoc> nack
16:48 < mnemoc> why should every target use wireless-tools??
16:48 < mnemoc> if i pkgsel - wireless-tools the building will fail 
16:48 < daja77> yep on bootable multimedia cds wireless-tools are not needed
16:49 < MadTux> according to rene's answer several months ago, because we should be able uintall from net even if its wireless, and wireless should be there as default
16:49 < MadTux> mnemoc: i could leave mkdir -p on iproute2.conf too anyways
16:49 < MadTux> :)
16:50 < mnemoc> :)
16:50 < mnemoc> brb
17:01  * MadTux first will create a set of minimal isos for himself, and fix any possible error found on this process, after this, will try tp cleanup minimal target, its still huge
17:01 < daja77> yep, throw out rfc package and it is 150mb less
17:02 < mnemoc> the old 'base' target :)
17:02  * rolla screams at the ants
17:03 < MadTux> daja77: will take that out and some of the bdb version we have .. not all of them are needed
17:03 < MadTux> mnemoc: well its base - several packages...
17:03 < mnemoc> rolla: are u trying to linuxant too?
17:03 < daja77> ack
17:03 < rolla> mnemoc: nein I just want to kill some co-workers
17:03 < mnemoc> old-base was lighter than current minimal
17:04 < MadTux> mnemoc: define old_base
17:04 < mnemoc> rolla: do'nt repress yourself
17:04 < rolla> ;)
17:04 < mnemoc> 1.4?
17:05 < MadTux> mnemoc: well .. :)
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17:09 < MadTux> hi dev0
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17:21 < jsaw> MadTux: for bdb, see #178
17:21 < MadTux> mm?
17:22 < daja77> in flyspray i guess
17:24 < jsaw> yep.
17:24 < jsaw> http://www.rocklinux.net/flyspray/index.php?id=178&do=details
17:26 < mnemoc> jsaw: "bdb40 is the supported bdb for subversion"
17:26 < mnemoc> "bdb41 is not stable"
17:26 < mnemoc> BUT bdb42 is out
17:27 < MadTux> well folks we are running pretty much every existing bdb version 
17:27 < mnemoc> maybe bdb42 is stable enough for subversion AND we can remove bdb40
17:28 < MadTux> well if 4.2 is in and works on svn we can take off 4.0 and 4.1
17:29  * mnemoc hopes that
17:29 < jsaw> my point is, that rxr closed the issue with "won't fix"...
17:29 < MadTux> _please_ lets not keep more bdb versions..
17:29 < MadTux> jsaw: explain
17:30 < mnemoc> jsaw: that was before bdb42
17:30 < MadTux> :)
17:30 < jsaw> we may remove 4.1, but I don't think he is willing to remove 4.0 (wild guess)
17:32 < MadTux> jsaw: well if we can be sure that svn will work with 4.2 then we can talk him to rmove 4.0
17:32 < mnemoc> 4.1->4.2 is not clean
17:32 < MadTux> mnemoc: ?
17:33 < mnemoc> BUT 4.1 has never ben on an stable release
17:33 < jsaw> see http://www.sleepycat.com/download/patchlogs.shtml:
17:33 < jsaw> May require Queue access method database dump and load.
17:34 < mnemoc> someday we will need to add update scripts to .gem files
17:35 < mnemoc> and optional signatures
17:36 < MadTux> would be nice
17:37 < mnemoc> embedded update scripts would be a 'big difference' with other ditros
17:37 < MadTux> oh yeah
17:47 < daja77> blindcoder: ping
17:48 < mnemoc> the other TODO i have with '.gem' is inclusion/exclusion named patterns to avoid package splitting like RH and others
17:48 < daja77> package splitting is not that bad
17:50 < mnemoc> depends on view points
17:51 < daja77> yep, having client only packages for distributed workstation install is nice
17:52 < mnemoc> i think a -nodev at install is better than having to install $pkg-{lib,dev,foo} each time
17:52 < mnemoc> with the high depedence generated by that
17:53 < daja77> well if i have a client only workstation i like to get small packages from net and not downloading a huge one and doin selective install
17:53 < mnemoc> that's a good point but i saw that as a target restriction (imho)
17:55 < mnemoc> named patters can be easily applied at .gem creation time
17:55 < mnemoc> in a similar way that pacakge splitting
17:55 < daja77> well you could use that patterns to create split packages when wanted as well
17:56 < mnemoc> yep
17:56 < mnemoc> they mix fine :)
17:56 < mnemoc> Distrbution building kit -> flexibility :)
17:56 < daja77> :)
17:58 < mnemoc> OT: who will send cvs-update patch? if i send more patches i'll be banished :)
18:00 < mnemoc> screen need to be updated too
18:01  * netrunner takes screen
18:01 < mnemoc> 4.0.2 :)
18:01 < mnemoc> go for it
18:02 < netrunner> freshmeat shows still 4.0.1
18:02 < mnemoc> believe me ;)
18:02 < netrunner> waiting for gnu.org ...
18:03 < mnemoc> ftp://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/utilities/screen/screen-4.0.2.tar.gz
18:03 < mnemoc> 12-5-2003
18:03 < netrunner> jup, found ;)
18:04 < mnemoc> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=bugtraq&m=106995837813873&w=2
18:05 < netrunner> why do we have 3.9.15? any reason?
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18:05 < netrunner> I mean it's not even the one before actual.
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18:06 < mnemoc> it's last from 3.9 series
18:11 < netrunner> Screen version 4.00.02 (FAU) 5-Dec-03
18:12 < netrunner> svn commit
18:13 < mnemoc> did it build cleanly??
18:13 < mnemoc> 'smoothly' :)
18:14 < netrunner> when I disabled the configure_pam.patch, yes.
18:14 < netrunner> and it works.
18:14 < mnemoc> :o
18:15  * mnemoc love that updates
18:15 < netrunner> I left the other patches, they still applied.
18:16 < MadTux> :)
18:16 < MadTux> hi nety
18:21 < mnemoc> no greetings for you today
18:21 < MadTux> mnemoc: i greeted you hours ago!
18:21 < mnemoc> :)
18:26 < netrunner> MadTux: I also greeted you hours ago. most probably yesterday :)
18:26 < MadTux> nety yesterday i guess :)
18:27  * daja77 needs 4 additional weeks this year only for rock work ...
18:28 < MadTux> depending on the way you manage sleep you can get the equivalent time :)
18:29 < daja77> not me
18:29 < MadTux> you lazy boy
18:29  * netrunner could gain time for rocklinux by dumping his gf ... [ ] possible option ;)
18:30 < daja77> bad option
18:30 < mnemoc> daja77 is not lazy, he lives la vida loca 
18:30 < daja77> tell me more, must have missed sth
18:31 < netrunner> mnemoc: patch submitted.
18:31 < MadTux> mnemoc: hehe 
18:31  * MadTux se imagina a daja77 bailnaod la vida loca
18:31 < MadTux> :)
18:31 < netrunner> ce vrei?
18:32 < MadTux> was?
18:32 < daja77> MadTux: ??
18:32  * netrunner thinks there is a reason for LANG=en :)
18:33 < daja77> netrunner: hast recht *ggg*
18:33  * daja77 runs
18:33 < mnemoc> * MadTux imagines daja77 dancing la vida loca
18:34 < netrunner> public class #rocklinux extends Irc implements Talkable{ public static void main(){System.out.println("/me prefers java ;)")}}
18:35 < daja77> you are weird
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18:35 < netrunner> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>
18:36 < mnemoc> who is 'you'?
18:36  * netrunner faking knowledge of brainfuk to use in irc
18:36 < daja77> netrunner 
18:36  * netrunner is the most common person talked to in #rocklinux and therefore referenced by 'you'
18:37 < daja77> or YOU
18:40 < mnemoc> common person: *please* add checksums :(
18:41 < daja77> hehe
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18:43 < netrunner> urgs, I tried to remember while removing it, but forggot.
18:43 < MadTux> :)
18:43  * netrunner resending
18:51 < netrunner> hey guys, just a question. am I the only one getting shared files with modutils and module-init-tools?
18:52 < netrunner> I just installed a build and have no {ins,rm,}mod
18:53 < MadTux> netrunner: no idea here.. yet.. will be able to tell you in a few hours
18:56 < netrunner> hm, modutils is for 2.4, module-init-tools is for 2.6. debian renames modutils tools with *.modutils
18:58 < mnemoc> defautl insmod depends of default kernel version
18:58 < mnemoc> afaik you can load 2.4 modules with module-init-tools
18:58 < mnemoc> can't
18:58 < mnemoc> aaarg :(
18:59 < netrunner> From the module-init-tools manpages (e.g. man
18:59 < netrunner> insmod)
18:59 < netrunner> "This  version of insmod is for kernels 2.5.48 and above.  If it detects
18:59 < netrunner>        a kernel with support for old-style modules (for which much of the work
18:59 < netrunner>        was  done  in userspace), it will attempt to run insmod.modutils in its
18:59 < netrunner>        place, so it is completely transparent to the user."
18:59 < netrunner> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/debian-user-200310/msg03000.html
19:01 < mnemoc> then _if_ both are X, modutils should be renamed
19:03 < mnemoc> module-init-tools/pkg_modutils_post.conf -> INSTALL_WRAPPER ?
19:07  * daja77 still wondering why install wrapper didn't work for openafs
19:08 < netrunner> hm, there is some magic in modutils that /should/ append a .old ... but probably doesn't work, because it creates a symlink to it, which causes the clash
19:09 < netrunner> ah, that's the reason, yes.
19:09 < mnemoc> gotta go... cu *
19:09 < netrunner> but probably the solution via module-init-tools is better, no? they call the other automatically.
19:11 < mnemoc> as module-init-tools replaces modutils, is the first who must 'repress' the second, not the seconds repressing itself
19:11 < netrunner> what do you mean with repress?
19:12 < netrunner> module-init-tools, the new, call the old if they find an old kernel.
19:12 < mnemoc> inject the INSTALL_WRAPPER
19:12 < mnemoc> that's in runtime
19:12 < netrunner> prima. c compiler cannot create executables.
19:12 < mnemoc> we should do the same on buildtime using INSTALL_WRAPPER from module-init-tools/pkg_modutils_post.conf
19:12 < mnemoc> lol
19:19 < netrunner> hm, march=k62 should be march=k6-2, no?
19:20 < netrunner> 5
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19:38 < tcr> moin all
19:38 < netrunner> moin tcr
19:39 < MadTux> tcr
19:39 < rolla> sparc linux is a pain
19:39 < tcr> moin netrunner, madtux
19:39 < MadTux> rolla: hehe 1/2 a bit yes
19:49 < netrunner> bg: ich fahre jetzt dann los. ca 15 min. ich klingle dann dein handy an.
19:49 < netrunner> argl.
19:49  * netrunner -> away.
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20:35 < rxr> re
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20:37 < daja77> hi rxr
20:40 < rxr> hi daja77 
20:41  * daja77 fixed two things on hp without breaking it ^^
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20:50 < rxr> daja77: congrats
20:54 < daja77> :))
21:00 < esden> *sigh*
21:00 < esden> hi all
21:00 < daja77> hi esden
21:00 < esden> hi daja77 
21:01  * esden switching on wlan ...
21:01 < daja77> do you put MadTux back to active devs?
21:02 < esden> o_O
21:04 < esden> brb
21:17 < esden> re
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21:27 < esden> hi blindcoder 
21:28 < blindcoder> hi esden 
21:28 < blindcoder> esden: you needed me?
21:28 < blindcoder> here I am :)
21:28 < blindcoder> mnemoc, MadTux: naked in my bed :*
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21:29 < blindcoder> muahaha
21:29 < blindcoder> seems like he couldn't stand that
21:29 < daja77> me wanted you
21:30 < blindcoder> daja77: so here I am. Want to come into my bed :*
21:30 < daja77> sure hehe
21:31 < blindcoder> okay, wait, I just have to pull out the extension
21:31 < daja77> you already included bootsplash into lvp?
21:33 < blindcoder> esden: you forgot the - after the 'cat's
21:33 < blindcoder> daja77: not yet. haven't had time to work on LVP since last release
21:34 < blindcoder> I probably won't be able to do anything before 20C3 right now
21:34 < daja77> why?
21:34 < blindcoder> too much to do
21:34 < blindcoder> I don't even have time to do nothing >_<
21:34 < daja77> what?
21:34 < esden> blindcoder: no id did not forget it I optimized it away
21:34 < blindcoder> the problems with the wlan (which seem to be fixed now)
21:34 < esden> and the first cat is not really needed
21:34 < blindcoder> stress at work (last workday seems to be next Tuesday)
21:35 < blindcoder> esden: i c
21:35 < esden> but I did not want to test it ... have better things to do ;)
21:35 < esden> we will see tonight if it works with the nested ssh command
21:35 < blindcoder> so that means I have to a) be done with the kickstart server and b) have yet another job interview at HVBinfo
21:36 < blindcoder> add to that my japanese lessons and some social things and my week is filled
21:37 < blindcoder> I haven't watched more than two animes since last monday (the one before yesterday)
21:38 < daja77> oki so i'll grab your stuff, and work it on
21:38 < blindcoder> the stuff on lvp.crash-override.net is the latest, I haven't changed anything in it since the last release
21:38 < daja77> ok
21:39 < blindcoder> so then, I'll try to watch an anime now and then fall asleep where I am (in bed :)
21:39 < blindcoder> daja77: would be cool if you can get it to work with LVP :)
21:39 < blindcoder> see you tomorrow then!
21:39 < esden> ok ... /me -> home
21:39 < esden> cu guys
21:39 < esden> cu blindcoder 
21:39 < blindcoder> oyasumi!
21:39 < daja77> cu blindcoder 
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21:46 < MadTux> re
21:46 < MadTux> hi esden
21:47 < MadTux> blindcoder: naked on ur bed .. OMG..  how scary
21:47 < MadTux> daja77: I gave up asking esden to put me back as an active dev, he just won't do it i guess.
21:48 < daja77> you want me to do it?
21:49 < MadTux> the question is if i am actually wanted back in the active devs list..
21:49 < MadTux> :(
21:50 < daja77> that's why i am asking
21:50 < MadTux> Well i would like to.
21:50 < MadTux> daja77: can you make it happen?
21:50 < daja77> guess so
21:50 < MadTux> okis
21:55 < rxr> MadTux: yes, you are wanted back - what a question ;-)!
21:57  * daja77 working on it
21:57 < MadTux> hi rxr :)
21:57 < MadTux> thanks.
22:00 < daja77> http://www.rocklinux.net/typo3/gallery.html
22:00 < daja77> can you live with that or you want to get higher? ;-)
22:03 < daja77> moving records with typo3 is sort of annoying ^^
22:03 < MadTux> daja77: well if you read well, it is supposed to be ordered alphatically acording to the last name..
22:03 < daja77> oh really, ok, moving on
22:03  * MadTux getting on daja77's nerves :)
22:03 < daja77> you are doin well ^^
22:03 < MadTux> see it urself if you don't believe me
22:03 < MadTux> i know :)
22:04 < MadTux> sh!t i'm good :)
22:04 < daja77> you are right
22:05 < MadTux> on what? the alphatical order or me getting on ur nerves?
22:05 < daja77> both ^^
22:06 < nookie> Hi MadTux :)
22:06 < MadTux> ^_^ 
22:07 < MadTux> hi n00kie :)
22:07 < nookie> Hi daniel ^^
22:07 < daja77> hi daniel :))
22:07 < MadTux> OMG Daniels invation!
22:08 < nookie> hehe
22:08 < MadTux> *g*
22:12 < daja77> if someone tells me fake's secret birthdate i could add that too *ggg*
22:13 < MadTux> i can give you more work if you want :)
22:13 < daja77> hehe, should i update your entry?
22:14 < MadTux> yups
22:14 < MadTux> see query for info
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22:25  * rolla yawns
22:25 < daja77> as always hehe
22:26 < rolla> hey work wears a man out
22:26 < daja77> i know
22:27 < rolla> damn ircnet is still down
22:27 < daja77> not really I am in it
22:27 < rolla> there is only one US ircnet server
22:28 < rolla> and it has been down for 2 days
22:28 < daja77> try irc.freenet.de ...
22:28 < MadTux> :)
22:30 < rolla> nope
22:30 < rolla> not allowed
22:30 < daja77> huh?
22:30 < rolla> 15:30 [IRCNet2] -!- Irssi: Connection to irc.freenet.de established
22:30 < rolla> 15:30 [IRCNet2] -!- ERROR Closing Link: maisenhe[maisenhe@66.136.183.233]
22:30 < rolla>           (Unauthorized connection)
22:31 < daja77> d'oh
22:31 < rolla> only .de allowed
22:31 < rolla> yup
22:31 < rolla> ircnet sucks in this way
22:31 < daja77> try irc.tu-ilmenau.de, hope they are not that way
22:32 < rxr> netrunner: awake?
22:32 < rolla> same
22:32 < daja77> damn
22:32 < rolla> ircnet sucks because of this
22:32 < rolla> they lock down all servers to region
22:34 < daja77> not only because of this
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22:38 < rxr> hi jsaw_ 
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22:43 < rxr> hm:
22:43 < rxr>  22:40:33 up 87 days, 23:28, 20 users,  load average: 4.79, 4.62, 4.38
22:44 < rxr> should I really update my lovely "Linux version 2.4.21-rock (root@heap) (gcc version 3.2.2)" kernel on it ... :-(
22:44 < rxr> damn many local root exploits found recently ...
22:45 < daja77> wouldn't be such a big problem if typo3 would be usable via https, hint passwd sniffing ...
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22:46 < rxr> daja77: mail clifford ;-)
22:48 < daja77> will do
22:48 < daja77> so mike is no.1 again ^^
22:49 < MadTux> *g*
22:54 < jsaw_> re
22:54 < jsaw_> hi all
22:54 -!- jsaw_ is now known as jsaw
22:54 < daja77> hehe nice that i animated jani to send a patch *ggg*
22:55 < rxr> rehi jsaw 
22:55 < jsaw> hi rxr
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22:59 < daja77> ok mailed clifford
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23:04 < MadTux> re
23:05 < rxr> jsaw: me just applying the gnome2 patch
23:05 < MadTux> rxr: genome2.4 update?
23:05 < rolla> re
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23:16 < rxr> MadTux: yes
23:16 < rxr> MadTux: rev1943
23:19  * daja77 promoting rock on other chans again ^^
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23:24 < netrunner> can we do working 64bit build?
23:25 < MadTux> x86_64?
23:25 < netrunner> yes
23:25 < netrunner> opteron
23:25 < daja77> arch was added afaik
23:25 < netrunner> somebody mentioned it would not work ...
23:25 < MadTux> te question is.. do you have such hardware?
23:26 < netrunner> yes. but I'd have to cross-compile, no?
23:26 < MadTux> nety well its just a matter of trying.. that would confirm if the theory is true or not
23:26 < MadTux> :)
23:26 < netrunner> or would normal build suffice to do the step 32 -> 64
23:27 < daja77> cross compile -> install -> native build i guess
23:27 < MadTux> ack.
23:27 < netrunner> anybody has the size of a fresh download? (not including all versions as I have here)
23:28 < jsaw> for x86_64, devfs is disabled...
23:28 < daja77> around 2gb i guess
23:28 < jsaw> in 2.4.23
23:28 < rxr> netrunner: you need a cross build and then do a full build natively
23:28 < rxr> jsaw: not in our 2.4.23 kernel ;-)
23:28 < jsaw> you fixed it already?
23:28 < daja77> hehehe
23:28 < rxr> netrunner: currently x86_64 does not cross-build correctly
23:28 < jsaw> DAMN.
23:29 < daja77> oh
23:29 < rxr> jsaw: nope I do not have the hardware - I disabled the disabling ...
23:29 < daja77> rxr: what g5?
23:29 < netrunner> rxr: :(
23:29 < rxr> http://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/service/regtest/arch-x86_64/2003-10-31/
23:29 < rxr> netrunner: but might be easy to fix
23:30  * netrunner has access to such hardware. just drove the guy owning it back home.
23:30 < daja77> hehe
23:30 < jsaw> rxr: the building of some python packages in gnome WILL FAIL without the export PYTHONPATH line in gnome-24.conf
23:30 < rxr> netrunner: I already did a build on my iBook for x86_64 some days ago and the result just waits for a free minute at university to getting a spot by me ...
23:30 < netrunner> rxr: he'd be willing to fix it, so if that is all ...
23:31 < rxr> netrunner: the problem must be a tiny trival config or useage issue - but I just had not the time to look into it ...
23:31 < netrunner> the owner of the opteron system is developer at trustix, so might be worth introducing and helping him ;)
23:31 < daja77> sounds cool
23:32  * daja77 still waiting for access to amd64
23:32 < rxr> jsaw: then gnome24/pygtk/pygtk.conf needs fixing
23:33 < rxr> jsaw: maybe half of gnome24/pygtk/pygtk.conf belongs into base/python/python.conf anyway?
23:33 < MadTux> daja77: /me too
23:34 < daja77> rxr: erh one of your mails is a full quote without added content? 
23:34 < jsaw> rxr: that was a question long time ago, where do we install python packages. All in /usr/lib/python-2.3/etc..., or not?
23:35 < jsaw> rxr: if not, this does not belong to python.conf.
23:38 < netrunner> rxr: modutils vs module-init-tools has shared files. modutils renames itself but then creates a link ...
23:41 < rxr> netrunner: I have not noticed a shared files - can you send me the .err log
23:41 < rxr> jsaw: I take a look tomorrow or so - or maybe you have some patch until then ...
23:41 < rxr> daja77: hm - no, not intended
23:41 < jsaw> rxr: add a pygtk-pkg.conf file?
23:42 < rxr> netrunner: the x86_64 problem is "just" that the cross linker does not find the ld-linux-x86-86.so - might be trival to fix
23:42 < rxr> jsaw: you want me to take more looks into it tonight? ;-)
23:43 < jsaw> I'll send another solution in seconds. Take a look ...
23:44 < rxr> shit - now kword crashes loading my document - very bad
23:44 < rxr> #0  0x0e7bcab0 in waitpid () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
23:44 < rxr> #1  0x0f54e694 in KCrash::defaultCrashHandler(int) ()
23:44 < rxr>    from /opt/kde31/lib/libkdecore.so.4
23:44 < rxr> #2  0x0e7baecc in pthread_barrierattr_setpshared () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
23:44 < rxr> #3  <signal handler called>
23:44 < rxr> #4  0x0e03483c in KWCanvas::currentTableRow() const ()
23:44 < rxr>    from /opt/kde31/lib/kde3/libkwordpart.so
23:44 < rxr> #5  0x0e034830 in KWCanvas::currentTableRow() const ()
23:44 < rxr> I need this document on paper ... :-(
23:44 < daja77> openoffice 1.1 os quite usable ...
23:44 < daja77> is
23:46 < daja77> erh btw found an easier way to support pdftex and latex in handbook than the way i proposed last time
23:47 < rxr> daja77: no way - I only used well strctued coded, leightweight ... and self-compileable projects ...
23:47 < rxr> I rather fix the first crash I found for week in kword then using this crap ...
23:47 < daja77> this crap just works atm
23:48 < rxr> daja77: should I try to get it running on this iBook *grin*?
23:48 < daja77> hehe would be cool
23:48 < rxr> no way
23:48 < daja77> hehe
23:49 < rxr> I fix kword ...
23:49 < rxr> and kwrod is s.th. possible to fix - in contrast to the OO mosnter ....
23:50 < daja77> btw i'd like to do some work on the handbook cos i am not quite happy with it
23:50 < rxr> I also plan work on the handbook because it is far from finished ...
23:51 < daja77> do you think it would be good to share that repo
23:54 < rxr> daja77: what do you exactly mean ?
23:55 < daja77> i mean if you perfer huge patches, which might be troublesome when pdfs are involved, or commits
23:56 < daja77> we could branch as well, to avoid confusing
23:57 < jsaw> wtf did my build/*/root/var/adm/packages dir disappear?
23:58 < daja77> speaking of disappearing where did misc/*/create_new_pkg.sh moved to
23:58 < jsaw> misc/archive/{fm,}newpackage.sh
23:59 < daja77> newpackage.sh i mean
23:59 < jsaw> you have chmod a+x both files
--- Log closed Mit Dez 10 00:00:15 2003