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--- Log opened Thu Dec 11 00:00:37 2003 00:01 < ierk> at last it forced me to fix my tftpboot server 00:02 < ierk> the rock install had killed my only box with cdburner 00:04 < rxr> ierk: it is impossible that during extracting the packages the boot sector got touched 00:04 < rxr> setup stuff is only run after the installation of the packages 00:04 < rxr> it is more likely that you have a defective partition table or so 00:04 < rxr> but normal .gem installation can not do this 00:06 < ierk> rxr: well i suspect it touched my existing grup 1.5stage or 2nd stage files and screwed them up 00:07 < rxr> you install into an installed system ? 00:07 < ierk> rxr: i reused /boot 00:07 < ierk> rxr: what worked fine with tsl, mdk and gentoo sofar. 00:08 < mnemoc> how far did you get in the installation? 00:08 < ierk> nmemonic: the extraction of rock-src failed, and every file there after 00:08 < ierk> read errors on the cd 00:10 * mnemoc never tested an installation with a damaged cd 00:10 < rxr> mnemoc: the .gem files just get not extracted and errors listed ... 00:10 < ierk> mnemoc: i did not want to do that either ;-) 00:11 < rxr> I should never share /boot - all the dists will overwrite each others kernels ... 00:11 < rxr> (and maybe other files) 00:11 < ierk> rxr: no they will not. at last it's very unlikely. they will overwrite grub.config and the grub stage files, but that's usually ok 00:12 < rxr> most dists have /boot/vmlinu{x,z} ... 00:13 < rxr> and I would not like to have the other mentioned files overwriten, too ... 00:13 < mnemoc> "but that's usually ok"??? 00:14 < rxr> hm - the redhat grub has crashed quite often on me - so for me this is not ok ... 00:17 < ierk> if the 1.5th and 2nd stage grub files are overwritten it does not matter, unless grub 1st stage is never reinstaller properly 00:17 < ierk> and i've a backup of my grub config anyway 00:17 < ierk> rxr: never tried redhat since 6.2 00:17 -!- A-Tui [~aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 00:18 < rxr> I just had to work with some of those "strange systems" 00:26 < ierk> can i somehow recover the hossed instalation? 00:26 < ierk> e.g. install the kernel and just boot it or will that not work? 00:36 < rxr> grub config should be created and grub install in STONE 00:36 < rxr> just reburn the CD3 and finish the installation ? 00:41 < ierk> it was cd2. does the installer detect the hossed instalation? 00:42 < rxr> jups - it should 00:42 < rxr> and list only new packages for an "update" installation 00:43 < ierk> rxr: can i use the "Server" target is i just want to compile rock for amd64? 00:44 < ierk> 4 00:46 < rxr> ierk: I would start with the minmal package template 00:46 < mnemoc> you can use generic with minimal template too 00:46 < rxr> but you also could use the server - but the server target has not yet been in wide use and might not include such an optimal package selection ... 00:47 -!- OffToWar [~zen@user-uivened.dsl.mindspring.com] has quit (Connection reset by peer) 00:48 < ierk> rxr: iirc the cds only offer workstation or server 00:49 < ierk> and i just found the initrd/vmlinux-2.4.22-rock in my /boot. so maybe i'll just try to boot that ;-) 00:52 < rxr> ah this is your Q 00:52 < rxr> sure if you use a server or workstation host should not matter 00:52 < rxr> I thought you wanted to know if you should "build" server of generic ... 00:55 < mnemoc> ierk: remember ROCKLinux is not a distribution 00:56 < ierk> mnemoc: i'm just about to firue out what it is ;-) 00:56 < ierk> btw: the manual did not realy help 00:57 < mnemoc> the 'handbook'? 00:58 < ierk> yes the handbook 00:58 < rxr> ierk: whas some part confusing? too much or too less information ? 01:00 < ierk> rxr: too little information 01:00 < ierk> now i booted mt hossed instalation but it lakes mount 01:00 < ierk> i'll burn some new cds now 01:02 < rxr> I guess within some days I'll have rewritten the wohle KWord table layout code ... 01:09 < rxr> ok - me off to bed 01:09 < rxr> cu today - maybe in the morning - but definetly in the evening ... 01:12 < mnemoc> cu rxr 01:12 < ierk> n8 rxr 01:36 -!- Netsplit stephenson.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: mistik1, snyke, netcrow, th, A-Tui, k3t_, [anders], cchamilt, maze_fan, ija, (+1 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 01:36 -!- Netsplit over, joins: A-Tui, k3t_, ija, maze_fan, cchamilt, mistik1, netcrow, th, snyke, mnemoc 01:43 -!- [anders] [anders@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #rocklinux 02:03 -!- [anders] [anders@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 02:05 -!- [anders] [anders@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #rocklinux 02:08 < ierk> ok, the server package selection has to be reworked 02:12 -!- Netsplit stephenson.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: mistik1, snyke, netcrow, th, A-Tui, k3t_, [anders], cchamilt, maze_fan, ija, (+1 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 02:13 -!- Netsplit over, joins: [anders], A-Tui, k3t_, ija, maze_fan, cchamilt, mistik1, netcrow, th, snyke (+1 more) 02:15 -!- [anders] [anders@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 02:15 -!- [anders] [anders@82-68-84-57.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #rocklinux 03:19 -!- A-Tui [~aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("Terminando cliente") 04:30 -!- cytrinox` [~dj-nail@p213.54.200.189.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 04:34 -!- MadTux_ [~mike@ip140-62.ct.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 04:34 < MadTux_> moin 04:34 < MadTux_> ping mnemoc 04:36 -!- YDS [proxyuser@230-128.isdn-dsl.itte.kz] has joined #rocklinux 04:50 -!- cytrinox`- [~dj-nail@p213.54.241.189.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:15 -!- OffToWar [~zen@user-2iveohd.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #rocklinux 06:43 -!- k3t_ [k3t@pD900570E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 06:56 -!- ThePcktMstr [~zen@user-2ivel0i.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #rocklinux 07:02 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-164.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 07:02 -!- nookie [~nookie@M383P001.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 07:02 < MadTux_> hi nebu 07:02 < MadTux_> n00kie! 07:11 -!- Freak [freak@helena.bawue.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 07:16 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M341P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 07:19 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-020.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 07:20 -!- OffToWar [~zen@user-2iveohd.dialup.mindspring.com] has quit (Connection timed out) 07:31 -!- nookie [~nookie@M383P001.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07:33 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #rocklinux 07:33 < MadTux_> ji jsaw 07:33 < jsaw> hi MadTux_ 07:34 < jsaw> I really appreciate that you started cleaning up from the base! 07:34 < MadTux_> ? 07:35 < MadTux_> you mean my earlier patches 07:35 < MadTux_> ? 07:35 < jsaw> yes you patches. minimal and stuff 07:35 < MadTux_> well i reduced over 200MB from minimal.. 07:36 < jsaw> I mean, rfc's in minimal? That was long overdue. 07:36 < MadTux_> and as you noticed i'm trying to take care of alpha, SPARC, and UltraSPARC ports, as their maintainers seem not to be giving then much attention 07:37 < MadTux_> jsaw: btw minimal was just my beggining, but believe, you will hear from me when the time for gnome comes :) 07:37 < jsaw> hehe 07:37 < jsaw> yeah. That's another step: cleaning up gnome. 07:38 < MadTux_> jsaw: well when i was maintainer i didn't clean it up, don't know how much progress youve made since its ur job :) 07:39 < jsaw> well, ~170 packages in gnome24... 07:39 < jsaw> some cleanups done, but so many new packages... 07:39 < MadTux_> yeah 07:39 < jsaw> a lot more to cleanup now... 07:39 < MadTux_> i will try to help you :) 07:40 < MadTux_> just keep in mind that base and ports will be my main work field 07:40 < jsaw> But first prio is to get a good running gnome. The real cleanup will take place when we have a more fine grained category system. 07:40 < MadTux_> well plus something mnemoc and I are planning, and maybe the server target 07:41 < jsaw> btw, server target. is anybody running pppoe currently on rock? I mean, there's no pppoe package? 07:41 < blindcoder> moin moin 07:41 < jsaw> hi blindcoder 07:41 * blindcoder was running pppoe 07:41 < MadTux_> hi blindy 07:42 < blindcoder> I installed ROCK in an existing network and installed pppoe manually 07:42 < blindcoder> moin jsaw 07:42 < blindcoder> moin MadTux_ 07:42 < MadTux_> i have nmo clue, still server target needs a whole re-creation.. there is many planning and work to do on it 07:42 < jsaw> blindcoder: which pppoe, the rp-pppoe? 07:42 < blindcoder> jsaw: yes 07:44 < jsaw> blindcoder: I'll try to do the pppoe package + rocknet support for it. I guess I'll cook sth up in the next two weeks. I appoint you as my beta tester now :) 07:45 < blindcoder> jsaw: I have gotten myself a router in the meantime 07:45 < blindcoder> jsaw: still, I can test it using my laptop 07:45 < MadTux_> :) 07:45 < blindcoder> jsaw: feel free to send those to me 07:45 < jsaw> good :)) 07:45 < MadTux_> blindcoder, not only the channel mascot but also jsaw test subject :) 07:47 < MadTux_> ok /me rocking 07:48 < jsaw> oh no, not again a ddos on sco... 07:49 < MadTux_> mmhh? 07:49 < jsaw> https://slashdot.org/articles/03/12/11/032206.shtml?tid=126&tid=187&tid=88&tid=95 07:49 < blindcoder> jsaw: sco on /. again? 07:50 < blindcoder> MadTux_: since when have I become the channel masco o_0 07:50 < jsaw> (well, there's no day w/o sco on /. - but - I don't like that DOSing sco may be referred to the open source community) 07:51 < MadTux_> blindcoder: well daja77 stated you were since several months ago... 07:51 < blindcoder> MadTux_: hrm... must have put that into "selective anmesia" :) 07:52 < MadTux_> blindcoder: heheh :) 07:52 < MadTux_> blindcoder: query 07:52 -!- MadTux_ is now known as Madtux 07:53 < blindcoder> jsaw: oh, there was a _real_ DDoS on sco 07:53 < blindcoder> jsaw: I thought it was only a story on /. 07:55 < jsaw> yep. But actually I'm not sure, if it's self produced (now that their investor trust goes down) 07:56 < blindcoder> might just be 07:57 -!- brianinmaine [~brianinma@206-15-137-241.dialup.ziplink.net] has joined #rocklinux 07:57 < brianinmaine> userlist 07:58 -!- brianinmaine [~brianinma@206-15-137-241.dialup.ziplink.net] has left #rocklinux () 08:19 < jsaw> argl: Cksum ERROR: download/base/linux24/i2c-2.8.1-2.4.23-rxr2.patch.bz2.cksum-err 08:19 < blindcoder> that's bad 08:19 < Madtux> jsaw: you are using latest svn? 08:19 < jsaw> just updated. yes. 08:20 < Madtux> mm.. i think i read mail from rxr to the list stating this was fixed ? 08:20 < blindcoder> 1074 builds total, 669 completed fine, 3 with errors. 08:21 < blindcoder> rev. 1896 08:22 < Madtux> blindcoder: what are the 3 errors? 08:24 < blindcoder> 0-prelink, 5-ffmpeg and 5-mono 08:24 < blindcoder> prelink and mono should be fixed by now, and seahorse will also fail 08:24 < blindcoder> nope 08:24 < jsaw> which is disabled in the meantime... 08:24 < blindcoder> not 5-mono 08:24 < Madtux> bc ok prelink is fixed. 08:24 < blindcoder> this is already 5-seahorse 08:24 < Madtux> seahorse? 08:24 < jsaw> yeah, seahorse is disabled with current rev. 08:24 < blindcoder> seahorse can be fixed by downgrading gpgme to 0.3.1 08:24 < blindcoder> seahorse can be fixed by downgrading gpgme to 0.3.14 08:24 < Madtux> wasn't it crazyhorse? 08:25 < blindcoder> Madtux: :) 08:25 < Madtux> ;-) 08:25 < jsaw> why should we? gpa is there. I wait until seahorse gets upgraded. 08:26 < blindcoder> personally, gpa was quite unstable for me, so I installed a second gpgme into /opt/seahorse 08:26 < jsaw> okay. that's a good reason to reactivate seahorse -> now on my TODO. 08:27 < blindcoder> :) 08:27 < blindcoder> okay, what tool does red hat AS use to configure runlevels? 08:28 < jsaw> chkconfig? 08:28 < jsaw> (that's what I read just seconds ago on the rp-pppoe hp, at least) 08:28 < blindcoder> ah, yes it is, thanks 08:29 < Madtux> ok kids i will be semi present now. /me wants to get some more work done for rock 08:29 < blindcoder> I just typed stone and wondered why it said "command not found" >_< 08:29 < blindcoder> Madtux: good luck :) 08:29 < jsaw> muahahaha 08:30 < Madtux> blindcoder: guess i'll need it? :) 08:31 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-164.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 08:31 < blindcoder> Madtux: it can't hurt :) 08:31 * blindcoder has to fight with initrd for lvp next 08:31 < Madtux> blindcoder: yeah you are right 08:32 < Madtux> blidy have fun with "stone" :P 08:32 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-078-059.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:32 < blindcoder> Madtux: I'm already done with that machine, so the pain is gone by now :) 08:32 < Madtux> okis :) 09:00 < blindcoder> koffice takes almost 2 hours to build >_< 09:03 < Madtux> holy... 09:04 < blindcoder> indeed 09:08 < Madtux> mmm.. new dietlibc version.. i better mail esden to update, don't wanna get into all that mess *g* 09:14 < blindcoder> ls -l 09:15 -!- ThePcktMstr [~zen@user-2ivel0i.dialup.mindspring.com] has quit (Connection timed out) 09:15 < netrunner> no files found 09:15 < Madtux> -bash: ls: command not found 09:15 < Madtux> hi nety 09:16 < netrunner> hi madman 09:16 < Madtux> ;-) 09:22 < blindcoder> moin netti 09:23 < blindcoder> hmm... initrd doesn't look too difficult... 09:24 < blindcoder> I'll just rip it out of bootdisk again :) 09:24 < Madtux> hehehe 09:38 -!- rolla [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:38 -!- rolla [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:24 < jsaw> bbl 10:24 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit ("Client Exiting") 10:33 < rxr> re 10:33 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@p50802E8B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 10:34 < Madtux> hi rxr 10:39 < blindcoder> moin rxr 10:40 < blindcoder> just for the record, I won't update nethack and bzflag right now 10:41 -!- clifford [~clifford@213-229-1-138.sdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #rocklinux 10:41 < blindcoder> moin clifford 10:42 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p50802190.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 10:50 < rxr> hi clifford 10:51 < Madtux> blindcoder: lazy boy 10:51 < Madtux> hello clifford 10:52 < Madtux> rxr: thanks for taking care of my patches so quickly. 10:52 < blindcoder> Madtux: not really, but bzfflag breaks all backward compatibility and nethack would probably introduce a quite big patch 10:53 < Madtux> blindy sort off figured that out, just wanted to bug you :) 10:53 < Madtux> ah well, its nice to be rocking again :) 10:54 < Madtux> Need to do stuff, bbl 10:55 < blindcoder> hdhd :) 10:55 < blindcoder> hehe 10:55 -!- Madtux [~mike@ip140-62.ct.co.cr] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 11:00 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-215.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:03 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-078-059.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 11:14 < netrunne1> hi clifford 11:14 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 11:15 -!- YDS [proxyuser@230-128.isdn-dsl.itte.kz] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:15 < rxr> i 11:16 < blindcoder> roööo update? again? 11:16 < blindcoder> narf 11:17 < blindcoder> irssi 11:18 < rxr> hm? 11:18 < blindcoder> wasn't there just an irssi update? 11:25 < rxr> jups but why röööö ? ;-) 11:25 < blindcoder> tried to type irssi on a de keyboard with dvorak layout in mind (and even made two typos >_<= 11:27 < blindcoder> is it somehow possible to cut back on kde-compile time? almost one hour per package is quite a lot >_< 11:28 < netrunner> blindcoder: as always, buy a faster cpu ;) 11:28 < blindcoder> netrunner: hmm... I could try to hack together a kernel module to use the GPU for additional power :) 11:29 < blindcoder> since I have aGF4MX sitting there and idling 11:29 < netrunner> blindcoder: smp cuts about half here. koffice took 1,5h while parallel building another pkg 11:30 < blindcoder> koffice took >2hours 11:30 < blindcoder> kopete 50 minutes 11:30 < netrunner> 20:33 builder: building job '5-koffice' (15961) .. 22:19 builder: finished job '5-koffice' (ok) 11:30 < blindcoder> kdevelop is now a bit under an hour 11:30 < blindcoder> and still running 11:32 < rxr> blindcoder: you need to speedup g++ to speedup the build of kde ... 11:34 < blindcoder> damn *snif* my poor laptop... It will have to cope up with another day with Windows >_< 11:36 < rxr> hm ... 11:36 < rxr> cu 11:37 < blindcoder> baba 12:05 < blindcoder> okay, I think I know how I'll make the initrd thing :) 12:16 -!- MadTux [~mike@ip140-62.ct.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 12:16 < MadTux> re 12:25 -!- MadTux [~mike@ip140-62.ct.co.cr] has quit ("Client Exiting") 13:24 < daja77> re 13:30 < maze_fan> moin daja 13:32 < daja77> hi blindy 13:34 < maze_fan> ah, two hours until doubled weekend ^^ 13:34 < daja77> hehe 13:35 < maze_fan> then three days work, and weekend again :) 13:35 < owl> hi 13:35 < daja77> and you say you have no time ^^ 13:35 < daja77> hi owl 13:35 < owl> hi daja77 13:36 * owl shares a 1,5 l bottle of strawberry-wine with #rocklinux . someone wants? 13:36 < daja77> don't drink and work ^^ 13:37 < maze_fan> hi owl 13:37 < maze_fan> daja77: it's something that has only been decided half an hour ago 13:37 < maze_fan> and maybe I have to work tomorrow and monday anyway, also not 100% sure yet 13:37 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958FD25.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13:37 < maze_fan> hi owl 13:37 * maze_fan stops working 13:37 < owl> hoeh? why work? hi maze_fan 13:37 < maze_fan> I'd like some wine :) 13:38 < owl> *moving over some ml of wine to blindy* 13:38 * maze_fan taking the bottle from owl other hand and fills himself a coffee cup with it 13:38 < owl> hmm. or so 13:40 < maze_fan> the ndiswrapper still seems quite unstable 13:41 -!- owl is now known as kleinesArschloch 13:46 * daja77 yawns 13:47 * maze_fan also yawns 13:47 < daja77> hehe rocklinux yawns club 13:48 * kleinesArschloch pukes 13:48 < kleinesArschloch> someone wants to join the pukes club? 13:48 < daja77> yeah 13:50 < maze_fan> nah 13:51 < daja77> blindy prefers to drink i guess 13:52 < kleinesArschloch> hmm 13:55 < rxr> re 13:57 < daja77> hi rxr 13:58 < maze_fan> wb rxr 14:23 < maze_fan> just a quick question out of lazyness: are the kde .wav's free to use? 14:27 < rxr> re 14:27 < rxr> maze_fan: I guess they are GPL 14:28 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M341P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("Lost terminal") 14:29 < cytrinox`> moin 14:30 < netrunner> hm, 60 days uptime are to much, let's reboot :) 14:31 < maze_fan> rxr: cool, then I can use them for LVP :) 14:36 * daja77 now off to orga meeting, having to convince them of my rock based concept ^^ 14:36 < maze_fan> daja77: good luck! 14:36 < daja77> thx 14:39 < rxr> maze_fan: new nick ?? 14:39 < maze_fan> rxr: only temporary 14:40 < maze_fan> this is my nick on apollo.bingo-ev.de and my home machine seems to have oops'ed 14:40 < rxr> oh - which kernel 14:40 < maze_fan> 2.4.22 with ndiswrapper 14:41 < maze_fan> the ndiswrapper 0.2 isn't really stable yet but the cvs version was buggy yesterday evening but has been fixed during today 14:41 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p50802E8B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ("leaving") 14:41 < maze_fan> and around 13:18 the machine died 14:43 < maze_fan> although according to the router the MAC address is still active 14:44 < maze_fan> maybe somewhere deeeep within some scripts of mine it reset the ip-address to 192.168.0.1 which is wrong 14:44 < maze_fan> just as the mach9ine keeps trying to load the module ppp0 every few seconds 14:46 < maze_fan> I really should reinstall the machine at 20C3 15:02 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p50802B97.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:02 < netrunner> re 15:03 < maze_fan> re netti 15:03 < rolla> re 15:04 < maze_fan> moin rolla 15:31 * maze_fan going home 15:48 -!- jani [~jani@ppp115-177.lns1.syd3.internode.on.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 16:06 < rxr> cu 16:34 -!- offtowar [~zen@user-2iverq7.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #rocklinux 16:36 -!- offtowar [~zen@user-2iverq7.dialup.mindspring.com] has quit (Client Quit) 17:03 -!- offtowar [~zen@user-2iverq7.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #rocklinux 17:04 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F2C8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:08 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-27-65.reverse.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:08 < holyolli> moin 17:42 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-215.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 18:03 -!- aktnot [ident@181.80-202-66.nextgentel.com] has joined #rocklinux 18:04 -!- aktnot [ident@181.80-202-66.nextgentel.com] has left #rocklinux () 18:04 -!- aktnot [ident@181.80-202-66.nextgentel.com] has joined #rocklinux 18:14 -!- offtowar [~zen@user-2iverq7.dialup.mindspring.com] has quit ("I was only after the sugar.") 18:16 < mnemoc> re 18:36 < rxr> rfe 18:38 < daja77> hi mnemoc 18:39 < daja77> wb rxr 18:39 < rxr> hi daja77 18:39 < mnemoc> hi daja77, rxr 19:08 -!- aktnot_ [ident@181.80-202-66.nextgentel.com] has joined #rocklinux 19:08 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-215.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:09 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD9005714.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:09 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-215.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 19:27 -!- aktnot [ident@181.80-202-66.nextgentel.com] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:37 -!- ChristianQt [~konversat@pD9530FE9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:01 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-27-65.reverse.qsc.de] has quit ("Leaving") 20:06 -!- ChristianQt [~konversat@pD9530FE9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 20:08 < mnemoc> *yawn* 20:22 < daja77> :) 20:24 < mnemoc> hi daja77 20:25 < daja77> again? 20:25 < mnemoc> yep, again 20:25 < daja77> ok ^^ 20:25 < mnemoc> like an smile 20:26 < daja77> me too 20:26 < mnemoc> do you have time to read some chaoting notes about vROCK? 20:26 < mnemoc> and *comment* :) 20:27 * daja77 currently patching tuxracer, but show me 20:27 < mnemoc> mail addr? 20:27 < daja77> daja@rocklinux.org ^^ 20:27 < mnemoc> :( 20:28 < daja77> hm? 20:28 < rolla> re 20:28 < daja77> wb rolla 20:28 < mnemoc> wb rolla 20:28 < rolla> thanks 20:28 < mnemoc> daja77: i would kill for one of those 20:29 < mnemoc> sent 20:29 < daja77> you just have to ask clifford 20:29 < mnemoc> i did but he never answered :( 20:30 < daja77> i convinced him in this chan 20:30 < daja77> took 15min :)) 20:30 * netrunner awaits clifford since 30 mins. now starting to iron :) 20:31 < netrunner> that new printer works perfectly 20:31 < mnemoc> model? 20:32 < daja77> netrunner: he is coming to you today, right? 20:32 < netrunner> kyocera fs1020d 20:32 < netrunner> daja77: true. 20:33 < netrunner> who of you has time to join a small meeting at my place saturday evening? 20:33 * daja77 confused by mnemoc's mail 20:34 < mnemoc> *chaoting* notes 20:34 < daja77> :) 20:36 < daja77> can you explain what this is really for 20:37 < mnemoc> i didn't tell you? 20:37 < daja77> no 20:37 < mnemoc> vROCK is a project/feature for proposing on 2.1 20:38 < mnemoc> for turning any target for running on not standad envs 20:38 < mnemoc> like livecd, vservers, uml, etc.. 20:39 < daja77> how would help vROCK on a livecd 20:40 < mnemoc> you desing a target for a real machine with sth. installed on HD 20:41 < mnemoc> and it will make it boot and run from your cd or dvd 20:41 < daja77> i somehow don't get the idea 20:42 < daja77> too dumb atm i guess 20:42 < daja77> or too sleepy 20:42 < daja77> or both 20:42 < mnemoc> the idea is to have 'enviroment' independet targets 20:43 < mnemoc> if we create... drock-lite for running on small desktop computers 20:43 < daja77> ah k. sort of getting it now 20:43 < mnemoc> you focus on integration 20:43 < mnemoc> and install in that old p200 with hd 20:44 < mnemoc> BUT doing a check on config that exact target will be ready for creating the iso and boot 20:44 < mnemoc> and run as i would do from rw harddrive 20:45 < mnemoc> it 20:45 < mnemoc> or a target which is a mail server 20:46 < mnemoc> a click, Build-Target and get it ready for running inside chroot or vserver 20:46 < mnemoc> without unneeded stuff 20:46 < daja77> sorry, we should talk about that later, /me too tired for that really 20:47 < mnemoc> don't worry 20:47 < daja77> ok thx 20:47 < mnemoc> gdid you got part of the idea? 20:47 < daja77> yes parts, but i can't open my mind for it atm *sigh* 20:47 < mnemoc> :) midnight? 20:48 < mnemoc> mmm 20:48 < mnemoc> forget that 20:48 < daja77> no 9pm, but i've slept only 4h last night, and had to get up early 20:50 < mnemoc> i'll bother you tomorow then 20:52 < daja77> if i am around tomorrow :) 20:52 * daja77 has a date tomorrow 20:52 < mnemoc> :o 20:53 < mnemoc> do even think of being here tomorrow :) 20:53 < mnemoc> don't 20:54 < daja77> hehe :) 20:54 < daja77> maybe earlier 20:55 < mnemoc> maybe 20:55 < daja77> :) 21:24 < rxr> dicre 21:26 < daja77> hm? 21:46 < rxr> re 21:46 < rxr> where dic was in the terminal because the mouse over window focus placed it accidently there ... 21:46 < rxr> was dict.leo.org ... ;-) 21:46 < rxr> so a STONE ROCK Net setup beast is in SVN now - quite basic for now ... 21:46 < rxr> if someone wants to give it a try ... 21:47 < daja77> try dict.tu-chemnitz.de as well :) 21:49 < rxr> daja77: yeah - go it ;-) 21:49 < rxr> hm - imprssive how much data my apache for www.rocklinux-consulting.de pushes into the net ... 21:49 < daja77> :)) 21:50 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-215.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:50 < rxr> Sept: 423.94 MB, Oct: 554.38 MB, Nov: 1.09 GB, Dec (so far): 631.22 MB ... 21:51 < daja77> btw https://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag/2004/service/xmas.html 21:51 < daja77> have fun 21:52 < daja77> maybe we should create one for rock next year ^^ 21:52 < rxr> cool - people sarching for "linux handbook" from Google got to my site ;-) 21:53 < daja77> cool 21:53 * daja77 working on the xmas calender page about tuxracer 21:54 < daja77> hmm nice tutorials indeed 21:54 * daja77 met the girl who set it up today, so i do some propaganda now ^^ 21:56 < daja77> rxr: you know this sweet program? https://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag/2004/service/xmas.html?10 21:57 < daja77> rofl https://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag/2004/service/xmas.html?12 21:57 < daja77> ok stop now 21:58 < rxr> jups 21:58 < daja77> the author is a dr here at university :) 21:59 < rxr> then I should better not comment about it ;-) 21:59 < daja77> hehe 21:59 < rxr> it is a good dr? And in which field? 21:59 < daja77> networking 22:00 < daja77> yes he is good at it 22:00 < daja77> nice to have lectures by him 22:00 < daja77> but yes his ui sucks ^^ 22:01 < daja77> he was at rock booth shorty at linuxtag 22:01 < rxr> oh ;-) 22:02 < daja77> well only because he knows me :)) 22:02 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-215.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 22:12 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD9005714.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("ze ûda brí-tenkoR") 22:53 -!- kasc [~kasc@dsl-213-023-064-039.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23:02 < mnemoc> what should be run first autoconf or automake? 23:04 < daja77> autoconf 23:04 < daja77> iirc 23:07 < mnemoc> thanks... and... do you know the method or attribute to get the typename of a javascript object? 23:07 < daja77> no 23:07 < mnemoc> :( 23:15 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9E1C84B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:21 < rxr> hi mnemoc 23:22 < daja77> aaaargs, /me forgot how to define #defines in autoconf 23:27 < mnemoc> hi rxr 23:30 < daja77> or better to say how to get the parameters 23:52 < daja77> AAAAARGH 23:53 < daja77> autoconf + tcl build system is really disgusting 23:53 -!- A-Tui [~aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 23:53 < A-Tui> hi all 23:53 < cytrinox`> gn8 23:54 < mnemoc> daja77: how 'complex' can a build script become to *need* using 'higher level languages' 23:54 < daja77> i dunno 23:55 < daja77> the niciest piece of crap is that when you define a var with _ it breaks 23:55 < mnemoc> o_O 23:56 < daja77> but in order to get it fixed it would be nice to define DATA_DIR 23:56 < daja77> they hardcoded it 23:56 < daja77> suckers 23:56 < mnemoc> using _ in var names is part of my dna 23:56 < mnemoc> :o 23:56 < daja77> it breaks the tcl part of the build --- Log closed Fri Dec 12 00:00:01 2003