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--- Log opened Fri Dec 12 00:00:01 2003 00:04 -!- mistik1 [rasta@ool-44c02046.dyn.optonline.net] has quit ("Reconnecting") 00:04 < mnemoc> have anyone fixed 'extern' errors in .xs files after perl update? 00:04 -!- mistik1 [rasta@ool-44c02046.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:06 < daja77> erh can a do nested #ifdef ? 00:06 < mnemoc> bbl 00:06 < mnemoc> daja77: sure you can 00:06 < daja77> cool 00:16 < daja77> n8 you all 00:20 -!- th [~th@80.65.35.194] has quit (Nick collision from services.) 00:21 -!- th [~th@segfault.boerde.de] has joined #rocklinux 00:53 -!- zen__ [~zen@user-2ivern7.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #rocklinux 01:03 < rxr> re 01:13 < mnemoc> re 01:19 < mnemoc> rxr: can ./autogen.sh before ./configure be considered somehow 'standard'? 01:23 -!- aktnot_ [ident@181.80-202-66.nextgentel.com] has quit ("leaving") 01:37 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9E1C84B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 01:49 < ierk> mnemoc: only for cvs or simmilar kind of software 01:50 < ierk> mnemoc: i mean software from cvs. not revision control software 01:52 < mnemoc> i was think in including it in rock's magic build_this_package... but i desisted 01:56 * ierk is off to bed 01:57 < mnemoc> gn8 ierk 01:59 < mnemoc> autogen = 1 :) undocumented staff 02:03 < rxr> ;-) 02:04 < rxr> autogen is higly ugly - due to the auto* dung and it's general version mismatch autogen does often not work on ROCK based system because we are too up-to-date ... 02:04 < mnemoc> :| 02:05 < rxr> so the next rocknet iteration ... 02:05 < rxr> cu later ... 02:05 < rxr> (after sleep) 02:05 < mnemoc> cu rxr 02:05 < mnemoc> sleep well 02:13 < rxr> current SVN:HEAD error list of a desktop build (x86): 02:13 < rxr> Error logs from system-2.0.0-rc4-x86-pentium-mmx-32-desktop-expert: 02:13 < rxr> [3] 0 base/prelink [5] 0 rene/ffmpeg 02:13 < rxr> [5] 0 esden/povray35 [5] 0 gnome24/seahorse 02:13 < rxr> [5] 0 gnome24/gst-plugins [5] 0 gnome24/gnome-vfs-extras 02:13 < rxr> [5] 0 rene/coda [5] 0 rene/vlc 02:13 < rxr> [5] 0 gnome24/gnome-media [5] 0 gnome24/nautilus-media 02:13 < rxr> [5] 0 gnome24/rhythmbox [5] 0 gnome24/gnomemeeting 02:13 < rxr> [5] 0 misc/dfbsee [5] 0 gnome24/pybliographer 02:13 < rxr> but now i'm off ... 02:13 < rxr> oh - --prelink of course - not yet rebuild ... 02:15 < mnemoc> no? 02:15 < mnemoc> aaa 03:17 -!- _MadTux [~mike@196.40.62.140] has joined #rocklinux 03:17 < _MadTux> moin 03:17 < _MadTux> ping mnemoc 03:19 < mnemoc> pong 03:19 < _MadTux> Hi Ale! :) 03:19 < _MadTux> how are you? 03:19 < mnemoc> fine... and you? 03:20 < _MadTux> doing geat myself 03:20 < _MadTux> mnemoc: read your notes about vROCK 03:20 < mnemoc> _MadTux: the ticket for bogota costs the double than miami's :\ 03:20 < mnemoc> chaotic notes :) 03:21 < _MadTux> hehe 03:21 < _MadTux> mnemoc: well how about medellin? 03:21 < mnemoc> hope you can decrypt them 03:21 < _MadTux> yes i understand mnemocist :) 03:22 < mnemoc> daja couldn't read it :( 03:22 < _MadTux> mnemoc: btw i don't know if I already gave you the thanks for fixing prelink, so thanks :) 03:22 < mnemoc> no plain to medellin 03:22 < _MadTux> mnemoc: now i will get on the nerves of the guy that updated pcmcia-cs ... 03:23 < mnemoc> you don't have to thank ;-) iirc it was an order :| 03:23 < _MadTux> no _planes_ from chile to medellin?! :( 03:23 < mnemoc> nope 03:23 < _MadTux> grr... 03:23 < mnemoc> www.lanchile.cl 03:23 < _MadTux> going to bogota is quite expensive 03:24 < mnemoc> US$ 635 03:24 < _MadTux> mnemoc: just out of curiousity, how much is it to come over to San Jose, Costa Rica 03:24 < _MadTux> ? 03:25 < mnemoc> santiago-miami-san jose :\ 03:26 < _MadTux> 0_o 03:26 < mnemoc> 1,313.74 03:26 < _MadTux> OMG! 03:26 < _MadTux> mnemoc: that more than what cost me to go to germany.! 03:26 < mnemoc> you don't live on the bottom of the worl :( 03:27 < _MadTux> i guess people in the end of the world are rich or so.. 03:27 < mnemoc> they don't fly :) 03:27 * _MadTux preparing today's patches 03:28 < _MadTux> so what do you guys do? ride on horse? 03:28 < mnemoc> bus :) 03:28 < _MadTux> hehe 03:30 < mnemoc> 140.30 santiago-buenos aires-santiago 03:30 < mnemoc> 260.50 santiago-rio-santiago 03:31 < mnemoc> can you guess where do chilean go? ;) 03:31 < _MadTux> you bastards! 03:31 < _MadTux> so this is why Chilenos speak like argentinos? 03:31 * _MadTux hides 03:32 < mnemoc> no, we don't :) 03:32 < _MadTux> :) 03:33 < mnemoc> you all speak like boricuas :) 03:33 < _MadTux> scary. 03:34 < mnemoc> ? 03:34 < _MadTux> ok x86 package updates out. preparing base updates patch 03:34 < _MadTux> mnemoc: nothing nervermind :) 03:35 < mnemoc> :\ 03:36 < _MadTux> brb /me finishing stuff to submit to rlml 03:51 -!- th [~th@segfault.boerde.de] has quit ("leaving") 04:02 < _MadTux> ok patches submission finished 04:03 < _MadTux> nobody scare, its not a mail patches bomb :) 04:03 < _MadTux> mnemoc: still alive? 04:03 < mnemoc> . 04:03 -!- zen__ [~zen@user-2ivern7.dialup.mindspring.com] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04:03 < _MadTux> good. 04:03 < _MadTux> mnemoc: i have sent a patch for the inclussion of bdb42 and asked rene to remove bdb41 04:04 < mnemoc> how tested is it? 04:04 < _MadTux> mnemoc: maybe we could join work and see if we can replace bdb40 with bdb42 04:04 < _MadTux> mnemoc: made a whole build of minimal+xfree with it 04:04 < _MadTux> including stage9 04:04 < mnemoc> what about flist? 04:05 < mnemoc> include/db42 --> db 04:05 < mnemoc> lib/... etc etc etc 04:05 < _MadTux> mmm... 04:05 < mnemoc> bdb* are a complex 'team' 04:05 < _MadTux> yes i know. 04:06 < _MadTux> I'm just hating the fact that we are running nearly every existing bdb version... 04:07 -!- zen__ [~zen@user-2ivem8m.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #rocklinux 04:07 < mnemoc> i have man, man-page, net-snmp and ntfsprogs updates in pending patches :\ 04:08 < _MadTux> mm.. 04:08 < _MadTux> i provided updates for man-page and net-snmp 04:08 < _MadTux> mnemoc: how big is exactly your patches queue? 04:08 < mnemoc> == 12/12/03 00:10:02 =[5]=> Finished building package mono-doc. <---- yes yes yes 04:09 < _MadTux> hehe 04:09 < mnemoc> excluding package/mnemoc-devel i have 475k on .diff files 04:09 < _MadTux> mmm.... 04:10 * _MadTux just has 16k pending 04:11 < mnemoc> i'll send mono/gtk# related updates now 04:11 < _MadTux> :) 04:11 < _MadTux> you really are an update freak 04:12 * _MadTux updating his svn tree 04:12 < mnemoc> next step is vserver, i have 0.27 on my repo and 1.20 is out :| 04:13 < _MadTux> mm... yeah you got to take care of ur repo stuff.. 04:13 < _MadTux> specially now that we are plaaning vROCK :) 04:16 < SMP> hi you two 04:16 < _MadTux> Greetings SMP 04:16 < mnemoc> i was fighting against hi SMP 04:17 < mnemoc> i was fighting against mono* mess 04:20 -!- zen__ [~zen@user-2ivem8m.dialup.mindspring.com] has quit (Operation timed out) 04:21 < _MadTux> mnemoc: if you have time, please update automake :) 04:21 < mnemoc> i send that.... let my check 04:21 < _MadTux> must warn u some work will be needed else acl will brake.. 04:22 < mnemoc> yes? 04:22 < mnemoc> never used attr/acl 04:22 < _MadTux> mnemoc: an update of dialog is also available but somehow it is braking mine.. will fight with this later i guess 04:24 < mnemoc> as was discused on ML, last dialog update has an api change 04:24 < _MadTux> atm i need i am doing some work on 2.4.23 alpha stuff to send it out before marcelo releases 2.4.24 04:24 < mnemoc> i have patches for minimal 04:24 < mnemoc> but not checked x11/* 04:24 < _MadTux> mnemoc: hehe sorry, i wasn't following ML till maybe the last 2 days.. 04:24 < mnemoc> :) 04:25 < _MadTux> wellw hat can I say? i'm a busy person.. 04:26 < mnemoc> :) 04:30 -!- cytrinox`- [~dj-nail@p213.54.210.15.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 04:47 -!- cytrinox` [~dj-nail@p213.54.200.189.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:59 * _MadTux just got himself a iso storage box :) 05:01 < _MadTux> model name : Pentium 75 - 200 <--- yeah I'm still obseced with reusing old hardware 05:02 * _MadTux pokes mnemoc with a stick 05:03 < mnemoc> :) 05:04 < mnemoc> do you have one of those with enough space for 'iso storage'? 05:05 < _MadTux> yeah 05:05 < _MadTux> :) 05:06 < _MadTux> don't spect A LOT of space, but yeah it has 30gb for storage 05:06 < _MadTux> i don't really keep my self much isos 05:06 < mnemoc> 30gb is pretty much for a p75 ;) 05:07 < _MadTux> well yah :) 05:22 < mnemoc> how is your cluster going? 05:41 < mnemoc> _MadTux: didn't say anything about the 'notes'... still liking the idea? 05:42 < _MadTux> ok back again 05:42 < _MadTux> mnemoc: cluster project on standby while i fix 2 more boxes 05:42 < _MadTux> mnemoc: regarding the notes i like the ideas 05:42 < _MadTux> i will make a few suggestions 05:43 < _MadTux> spect a mail sometime today or tomorrow 05:43 < mnemoc> ok... /me hope we are sharing the same view 05:43 < _MadTux> we are yes :) 05:44 < mnemoc> great :) 05:44 < mnemoc> then you will explain it to the 'community' :) 05:44 < _MadTux> you bastard! 05:45 < _MadTux> i will try, but you will reply to all questions :) 05:45 < mnemoc> deal 05:45 < _MadTux> :) 05:46 < mnemoc> did you read my mail about openrock and the dwarf sculping? 05:46 < _MadTux> i don't think so 05:46 < _MadTux> mail subjetc? 05:46 < mnemoc> wait 05:46 < _MadTux> or if you can resend it just to me :) 05:48 * _MadTux making coffee 05:49 < mnemoc> Project renaming 5-11-03 05:50 < mnemoc> _MadTux: can you cvs those notes? just to keep them 'tracked' 05:51 < mnemoc> mail forwarded 05:53 < _MadTux> mnemoc: cvs? yeah i guess this shouldn't be a problem :) 05:54 < _MadTux> mnemoc: which reminds me i owe you the cvs and shell account 05:54 < _MadTux> mnemoc: just out of curiosity, what would you use the shell for? 05:54 < mnemoc> rock :) 05:54 < mnemoc> we can share download/ ;-) 05:55 < mnemoc> i'm rocking on a box from a work i lose 3 month ago 05:55 < mnemoc> the change passwords but didn't remove authorized_keys ;-) 05:56 < mnemoc> they 05:56 < _MadTux> hehe 05:57 < _MadTux> i see so you want a shell to be able to run builds on the box? 05:57 < mnemoc> yes :( 05:57 < mnemoc> vserver? 05:57 < _MadTux> tell you what, let me finish the cluster, then you can have it :) 05:57 < mnemoc> fix those two damn boxes now! 05:57 < _MadTux> mnemoc: no sad faces, youve been gaining my trust 05:58 < mnemoc> :-) 05:58 < _MadTux> mnemoc: i am fixing them, be patient, i also have other stuff to do :) 05:58 -!- mnemoc is now known as ProudMnemoc 05:59 < ProudMnemoc> don't worry... i also have lot of pending work 05:59 < _MadTux> mm.. why Proud? 06:00 < ProudMnemoc> because i gain your trust ;) 06:00 < _MadTux> hehe. 06:02 < _MadTux> 50 minutes building kernel 2.6.0 mm... i need to upgrade hardware :( 06:02 < ProudMnemoc> 2.6 is damn fat 06:03 < ProudMnemoc> i think i'll stay on 2.4 for a looong time 06:03 < _MadTux> well yeah that too :) 06:03 < _MadTux> i don't think i will. 06:04 < _MadTux> 2.4 wil be for production enviroments for maybe a few more months after stable release is out, but my development boxes will run 2.6.0 as soon as rock can work without devfs :) 06:04 < _MadTux> ProudMnemoc: when do you think rock 2.0-final will be out? 06:04 < ProudMnemoc> we don't use too many /dev nodes, ... 06:05 < ProudMnemoc> 2.0? febrary? 06:05 < _MadTux> that be great.. but i still think its too optimistic.. 06:06 < ProudMnemoc> if we replace mount devfs code with a couple of binds /dev indepence on build time will be achieved 06:06 < _MadTux> well guess you are right. But i think i would like to leave this to be done after stable rock is out :) 06:06 < ProudMnemoc> rxr is doing rocknet staff instead of waiting cliff, we put his head on it 06:07 < ProudMnemoc> _MadTux: i'm also talking about 2.1 ;) 06:07 < _MadTux> good. 06:08 < ProudMnemoc> my pending patches are *really* simples but nobody have look into them :( 06:08 < ProudMnemoc> and zero-risk :) 06:09 < _MadTux> ProudMnemoc: well when you send patches out, it is asumed that the tree maintainer is the one to apply or reject them 06:09 < _MadTux> zero-risk? like prelink? :P 06:09 < ProudMnemoc> they stay in silence :| 06:09 < ProudMnemoc> prelink got broken because of a binutils update 06:10 < _MadTux> ProudMnemoc: it isn't really into our control :( 06:10 < ProudMnemoc> they move some public #defines into glibc but they release prelink, binutil and not glibc :| 06:11 < _MadTux> sucl 06:11 < _MadTux> suck* 06:11 < ProudMnemoc> :) 06:11 < _MadTux> I wonder when will this lazy germans wake up 06:12 < _MadTux> guess the first 2 to show up will be blindy and netrunner, maybe n00kie 06:12 < ProudMnemoc> bc in 3 hours 06:12 < ProudMnemoc> blindy and netrunner, not n00kie :) 06:13 < ProudMnemoc> SMP is awake :) 06:13 < _MadTux> ProudMnemoc: well n00kie has his moments :) 06:13 < _MadTux> well SMP doesn't really count, he is a vampire like us. 06:14 * SMP was so tired, wanted to sleep, but got called in after 5 hours cause a server got ill ;-( 06:14 < _MadTux> SMP: that sucks the big time :( 06:15 < ProudMnemoc> :| 06:15 < ProudMnemoc> hi SMP :) 06:15 < _MadTux> SMP: does it mean you currently work on normal working hours? 06:16 < SMP> no, but I was just about to fix that, but then this happened 06:16 < _MadTux> oh. 06:22 * ProudMnemoc need more hot water 07:20 -!- neitzsche [~zen@user-2ivek54.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #rocklinux 07:33 -!- neitzsche [~zen@user-2ivek54.dialup.mindspring.com] has left #rocklinux ("Bye.") 08:14 < _MadTux> ProudMnemoc: awake? 08:14 < ProudMnemoc> yep 08:14 < _MadTux> good news 08:14 < _MadTux> One of the machines fixed :) 08:14 < _MadTux> need to install it and all, but its starting, recognizing hardware etc :) 08:15 < ProudMnemoc> just curious, what kind of hardware are you talking about? ;) 08:16 < _MadTux> this one is p3 1.3, 512mb ram 80gb.. 08:16 < _MadTux> even by its own should be fast enough for ur needs 08:17 < _MadTux> Ale? 08:17 < ProudMnemoc> i change from a pmmx/200/128M/8GB to a p2/266/384M/20G 08:18 < ProudMnemoc> do you think that p3 can be considered slow by me? 08:18 < ProudMnemoc> my home pc is a p3/766/512M/40G 08:19 < _MadTux> hehe :) 08:19 < _MadTux> good so lets wait just a bit more ok? 08:20 < _MadTux> tu paciencia sera recompenzada como podes ver :) 08:20 < ProudMnemoc> i can wait as much as you can need 08:20 < ProudMnemoc> lo tnego mas que claro ;) 08:30 < _MadTux> mmmm... ok people starting to freak out with my bdb42 patch 08:31 < ProudMnemoc> praenti 08:31 < ProudMnemoc> what did you expected? 08:34 < _MadTux> hehe, yeah guess he won't be the first to scream 08:34 < _MadTux> the least people i think i will hear from will be blindy, rene, maybe clifford, daja77 and esden 08:35 < _MadTux> oh and if tcr is reading the list he will for sure scream 08:35 < ProudMnemoc> he was the first, won't be the last :) 08:35 < _MadTux> actually you were thre first, just not on the list 08:36 < ProudMnemoc> :) 08:36 < blindcoder> you're talking about me? 08:36 < blindcoder> moin 08:36 < ProudMnemoc> no :) 08:37 < _MadTux> hi blindy 08:37 < blindcoder> moin _MadTux 08:37 < _MadTux> blindcoder: no we weren't talking about u, just about one of my patches.. guess you haven't read rlml 08:37 < blindcoder> ProudMnemoc: why so proud? Did you become father? :) 08:38 < blindcoder> _MadTux: not yet... should I skip reading it before breakfast? 08:39 < _MadTux> nah, have breakfast first, save the anger and screams after breakfast :) 08:40 < ProudMnemoc> blindcoder: i am father (since march 2001), but now i'm proud because of a matter of trust relationships 08:40 < blindcoder> ProudMnemoc: I see 08:41 < _MadTux> blindy enjoy your breakfast ;-) 08:41 < blindcoder> _MadTux: hmm... if the bdb thing really works and we can drop bdb41 then... what the hell, just update it 08:41 < ProudMnemoc> update and rename 08:41 < _MadTux> wow. I didn't spect you would react so positive 08:42 < _MadTux> blindcoder: its tested on a minimal+xfree build, haven't test it onb a full generic or desktop build 08:43 < blindcoder> _MadTux: I don't like the update, but I like three bdbs even less :) 08:43 < _MadTux> for my minimal+xfree and the currently running minimal (stage9) haven't get errors 08:43 < ProudMnemoc> bdb33 and bdb42 08:43 < _MadTux> blindcoder: well actually rock desktop and generic uses 4 bdb versions.. 08:44 < blindcoder> urgs 08:44 < blindcoder> ARGH! WHO MESSED UP MY BUILD-PRIORITIES?! 08:44 < blindcoder> if we can drop one bdb then, so apply it 08:44 < _MadTux> blindcoder: yea evolutions uses bdb 3.1.17, then we have bdb33, and bdb4 and bdb41... 08:45 < _MadTux> well bdb42 seems to replace just fine 41.. 08:45 < blindcoder> that's good :) 08:45 < _MadTux> after stable realease, we can consider to also replace bdb4 with bdb42 08:45 < blindcoder> mhm 08:45 < _MadTux> depending on how it works 08:46 < ProudMnemoc> _MadTux: remember rene is inlove with bdb40 08:46 < _MadTux> ProudMnemoc: i know. but heck if i can prove 42 will do the job :) 08:46 < blindcoder> so, I'm now putting on some clothes (still in bed) and will then walk down to the kitchen 08:46 < _MadTux> ProudMnemoc: though i don't have the time or patience for the 40 - 42 thing right now 08:46 < ProudMnemoc> nakedcoder :\ 08:47 < _MadTux> OMG, you are naked again 08:47 * _MadTux covers his eyes before seen something he really doesn't want to 08:47 < ProudMnemoc> _MadTux: just remember love is blind (link the naked coder one around here) 08:48 < ProudMnemoc> s/one// 08:48 < _MadTux> ProudMnemoc: mm... i really don't think i wanna know what you are thinking right now. 08:48 -!- jani [~jani@ppp115-177.lns1.syd3.internode.on.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:48 < ProudMnemoc> rene is inlove with subversion, and subversion convinse him to love bdb40 08:49 < ProudMnemoc> love is blind so don't expect logical reactions 08:49 < _MadTux> ProudMnemoc: i know. 08:49 < _MadTux> so anyways i'll be back in 1/2 an hour 08:49 < ProudMnemoc> and that naked coder is suposed to be blind too 08:49 < ProudMnemoc> cu 08:50 -!- ProudMnemoc is now known as mnemoc 08:50 -!- _MadTux [~mike@196.40.62.140] has quit ("Client Exiting") 08:51 < blindcoder> i never said naked but "in bed" 08:51 < mnemoc> "I'm now putting on some clothes" 08:51 < mnemoc> cloth over cloth or cloth over nakedcoder? 08:52 < mnemoc> +e 08:52 < blindcoder> I was wearing my night clothes 08:53 < blindcoder> greetings to #rocklinux from my dog :( 08:53 < blindcoder> :) 08:53 < mnemoc> so you are waring night+day clothes and have a happy dog 08:54 < blindcoder> I'm only wearing day clothes now and have a happy dog because he just got a hug and some sweets 09:08 -!- logic7 [~chatzilla@d169h217.resnet.uconn.edu] has joined #rocklinux 09:08 < logic7> yo 09:08 < logic7> anyone up? 09:09 < blindcoder> I'm having breakfast 09:09 < blindcoder> what's up? 09:10 -!- logic7 [~chatzilla@d169h217.resnet.uconn.edu] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.8.31 [Mozilla rv:1.4/20030624]") 09:11 < mnemoc> he saw you naked and run away 09:11 < blindcoder> I'm not naked anymore! 09:12 < mnemoc> naked and eating a sweet dog :( 09:13 < blindcoder> I'm not eating my dog!!! 09:13 < blindcoder> or are you eating your children? 09:14 < mnemoc> i haven't talk about eating and neither about my children 09:19 -!- esden_ [~weasel@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 09:19 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now - https://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html 09:19 -!- Topic set by ChanServ [Tue Sep 2 17:34:51 2003] 09:19 (Users #rocklinux) 09:19 [ [anders] ] [ cchamilt ] [ esden_] [ jani ] [ netcrow ] [ SMP ] 09:19 [ _spectre_ ] [ clifford ] [ fake ] [ kleinesArschloch] [ netrunner] [ snyke] 09:19 [ A-Tui ] [ cytrinox`-] [ huebi ] [ maze_fan ] [ praenti ] [ true ] 09:19 [ Aard ] [ daja77 ] [ ierk ] [ mistik1 ] [ rolla ] 09:19 [ blindcoder] [ esden ] [ ija ] [ mnemoc ] [ rxr ] 09:19 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 28 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 28 normal] 09:19 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Mon Aug 4 00:11:35 2003 09:19 -!- Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 16 secs 09:20 -!- esden [~weasel@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit (Connection reset by peer) 09:22 -!- _MadTux [~mike@ip140-62.ct.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 09:22 < _MadTux> re 09:23 < mnemoc> wb MadTux 09:23 < _MadTux> thanks mnemoc :) 09:23 < _MadTux> mnemoc: you don't sleep either? 09:24 < mnemoc> i delete 2 month of work on saturday and i have THE meeting in 5 hours 09:24 < _MadTux> ah yeah i remeber about ur little accident. :/ 09:25 < _MadTux> mnemoc: how much have you progress already? 09:25 < mnemoc> 30-40% :( 09:25 < _MadTux> mm... 09:25 < _MadTux> so i won't disturb you 09:26 < mnemoc> :) 09:30 < mnemoc> what a freak language (c#) 09:30 < _MadTux> yuk 09:31 < mnemoc> if (foo) string food; else int food; 09:31 < mnemoc> is VALID 09:33 < _MadTux> hungry? 09:34 < mnemoc> yep 09:37 < _MadTux> eat :) 09:38 < daja77> moin maze_fan 09:38 < daja77> moin _MadTux 09:38 < _MadTux> hi daja77 09:39 * mnemoc feels ignored 09:39 < daja77> hola mnemoc 09:39 < mnemoc> :D hola daja77 09:39 < _MadTux> daja77: bahh! 09:40 < daja77> hm? 09:40 < _MadTux> it was fun to see him begging for a greeting 09:40 < _MadTux> :P 09:40 < mnemoc> :) 09:40 < _MadTux> jk mnemocy 09:40 < mnemoc> i'm not sane today 09:41 -!- clifford [~clifford@213-229-1-138.sdsl-line.inode.at] has quit ("Client exiting") 09:41 < _MadTux> mnemoc: ja!like if you've ever beens ane.. 09:41 < _MadTux> sane* 09:41 < mnemoc> o_O 09:41 < _MadTux> code code! 09:41 < daja77> hehe 09:42 < _MadTux> mnemoc: just deal with the fact that you are insane, and that ur distiny is to code on c# for the rest of the day 09:42 < mnemoc> :| 09:43 < _MadTux> mnemoc: come on Ale, cheer up. 09:43 < mnemoc> but i'll have a shell and root access to a very fast ultra super cluster tomorrow ;) 09:44 < _MadTux> tomorrow? hehe we shall see :) 09:44 < mnemoc> :\ 09:44 < _MadTux> i sleep you know 09:44 < mnemoc> me? 09:44 < mnemoc> forget that 09:44 < _MadTux> Doctor said i need to act like if i was mortal and sleep a lot 09:44 < mnemoc> read now instad of know 09:45 < _MadTux> you are talking non sence stuff.. have you drink enough coffee? 09:45 < mnemoc> he is an ignorant 09:45 < mnemoc> i need more 09:45 < _MadTux> :) 09:45 < mnemoc> but my stomach is doing weird noises 09:46 < _MadTux> eat and get coffee, you need to finish that stuff in less than 4 hours 09:47 < mnemoc> i'll get a shower 09:47 < mnemoc> with cold water 09:47 < _MadTux> ggood choice 09:47 < _MadTux> have fun 09:48 * blindcoder back 09:50 < _MadTux> wb blindy 09:52 < daja77> moin blindy 09:52 < blindcoder> moin daja77 09:55 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-072-237.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:59 * daja77 off to university now 10:29 < rxr> re 10:29 < _MadTux> hello Ren 10:29 < rxr> hi _MadTux 10:33 < maze_fan> moin rxr 10:42 < blindcoder> narf, a whole gnome update >_< 10:43 < blindcoder> this'll take ages to download >_< 10:43 < _MadTux> hehehehe 10:43 < _MadTux> enjoy :) 10:43 < blindcoder> nah 10:43 < blindcoder> that means that my new laptop will have to waut for linux even longer 10:46 < blindcoder> 19 packages failed, so I thought a quick svn up and -newdelete should help, but alas: a whole fucking new gnome and with that 269 packages to rebuild 10:50 < blindcoder> and the build priority of dvgrab is fucked up, too 10:56 < _MadTux> not exactly ur lucky day is it 10:56 < _MadTux> ? 10:56 < blindcoder> not really 10:58 < blindcoder> rxr: I'm a lazy bastard, would you please increase the priority of dvgrab by 3.000 (past libavc1394) 10:58 < blindcoder> without a patch 11:04 < blindcoder> brb 11:05 -!- YDS [proxyuser@230-128.isdn-dsl.itte.kz] has joined #rocklinux 11:13 < daja77> re 11:13 * blindcoder back 11:13 < _MadTux> wb daja77 11:13 < daja77> thx :) 11:13 < _MadTux> und blindy 11:14 < blindcoder> :) 11:32 -!- YDS [proxyuser@230-128.isdn-dsl.itte.kz] has quit (Connection reset by peer) 11:34 < daja77> .kz?! wtf 11:35 < mnemoc> and what .kz is? 11:36 < daja77> tld, see YDS 11:37 * mnemoc wants to know the name of the coutry :) 11:37 < mnemoc> and you already search it 11:38 < daja77> Kazakhstan 11:38 < mnemoc> ehm 11:39 < daja77> hm? 11:39 < daja77> former part of the soviet union (.su) 11:39 < mnemoc> ok :) 11:40 < mnemoc> there are too many former parts of .su for me :| 11:40 * daja77 had to learn them once 11:41 < daja77> ok off now 11:52 < rxr> re 11:53 < _MadTux> re rxr 11:53 -!- LocalHero [LocalHero@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has joined #rocklinux 11:53 < _MadTux> LocalHero: ! 11:54 < LocalHero> _MadTux, hi :).. Whazzup? 11:55 < _MadTux> LocalHero: nothing much, rocking as usual, you ? 11:55 < mnemoc> goota go... cu * 11:55 < mnemoc> gotta* 11:55 < _MadTux> mnemoc: cya 11:56 < LocalHero> _MadTux, have lots of exams to study for :( 11:56 < _MadTux> LocalHero: sorry to hear that. 11:56 < LocalHero> _MadTux,, ass usual you do everything not to study :).. hehe, give the flowers water, clean the apartment etc etc :) 11:58 < _MadTux> mm.. i got no time for that relaxing stuff, just Code, Uni, Code, work and Code... and if i have some spare time.. Code. 12:09 < rxr> cu 12:12 -!- A-Tui [~aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("Terminando cliente") 12:17 < _MadTux> wee my patches are applied :) 12:23 < _MadTux> grrr... rene kept bdb41 and added my bdb42 patches.. 12:46 -!- LocalHero [LocalHero@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has quit () 12:54 < kleinesArschloch> moin 12:55 < _MadTux> hi owly 12:58 -!- dsoul [darksoul@www.offspring.art.pl] has joined #rocklinux 12:58 < kleinesArschloch> hi dsoul 13:01 -!- _MadTux [~mike@ip140-62.ct.co.cr] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:22 < kleinesArschloch> .oO(all those lazy guys here...) 13:32 < daja77> :p 13:34 < kleinesArschloch> *g* heh, daja77 just woke up :p hi 13:34 < kleinesArschloch> how are you? 13:34 < daja77> hehe no me up since 8:00 13:34 < daja77> quite fine 13:34 < kleinesArschloch> respect :p 13:34 < kleinesArschloch> .oO(gluehweinbonbons are better than anti-depressiva *g*) 13:35 < daja77> she comes later that day ... 13:35 < kleinesArschloch> .oO(or was it the driving-license-course....?) 13:35 < kleinesArschloch> the depression? 13:35 < daja77> nope 13:35 < kleinesArschloch> who then? ;) 13:35 < kleinesArschloch> your gf? 13:36 < daja77> ahem yes .. 13:36 < kleinesArschloch> ah.k ;) enjoy it then ;) 13:38 < daja77> yep thx 13:39 < kleinesArschloch> de nada 13:40 < kleinesArschloch> btw, while talking... do you know by accident, what "voraussetzungen" are needed, to get "kruecken verschrieben auf rezept/von arzt"...? (the ones i'm currently using, are not high enough and just borrowed by the doctor) 13:51 -!- FBI_Pierreo [~pierre@poold9-163.adsl.nordnet.fr] has joined #rocklinux 13:51 < FBI_Pierreo> hi everyone 13:52 < kleinesArschloch> hi FBI_Pierreo 13:52 < FBI_Pierreo> is rocklinux easy to install ? 13:55 < kleinesArschloch> it depends on what you define as "easy to install"... 13:55 < FBI_Pierreo> not like mdk 13:55 < FBI_Pierreo> but not to difficult like openbsd 13:56 < kleinesArschloch> hmmm. (bsd is difficult?) 13:56 < kleinesArschloch> might you just should try it. 13:56 < daja77> FBI_Pierreo: it is easier than openbsd 13:57 < FBI_Pierreo> ok 13:57 < kleinesArschloch> hrm..... guess i will sleep a bit longer again... gn8 14:08 -!- FBI_Pierreo [~pierre@poold9-163.adsl.nordnet.fr] has quit ("Leaving") 14:40 < rolla> re 14:48 < cytrinox`-> moin 14:55 < blindcoder> anyone got a copy of straw-0.21.2.tar.bz2? 15:08 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@p50802972.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:10 < ierk> re netrunner 15:15 -!- aktnot [ident@181.80-202-66.nextgentel.com] has joined #rocklinux 15:16 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p50802B97.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 15:16 -!- aktnot [ident@181.80-202-66.nextgentel.com] has quit ("leaving") 15:16 -!- aktnot [ident@181.80-202-66.nextgentel.com] has joined #rocklinux 15:17 -!- aktnot [ident@181.80-202-66.nextgentel.com] has quit (Client Quit) 15:17 -!- aktnot [ident@181.80-202-66.nextgentel.com] has joined #rocklinux 15:49 < rxr> re 15:57 -!- true [~true@aszlig.net] has left #rocklinux (".") 16:06 < rolla> re 16:10 < rxr> hi rolla 16:11 < rolla> rxr what linux distro do you use to build rock for ultrasparc? 16:19 < rxr> rolla: rock ;-) 16:20 < rxr> I started by implanting an old 1.5 image onto the disk 16:20 < rxr> and then bootstrapped some 1.7 16:20 < rxr> and then some 2.0-something 16:20 < rxr> (beta4 or so) 16:20 < rxr> I just had not the time for the bootcode ... 16:21 < rxr> rolla: should I power-up the U5 and build a new .iso (which will not be bootable) for you? 16:24 < blindcoder> something seems buggy in Create-ErrList -newdelete 16:26 < rxr> blindcoder: details 16:27 < blindcoder> rxr: I did a complete generic build, svn up, Create-ErrList -newdelete, Download, Build-Target and then build/$ROCKCFG_ID/root/var/adm/packages only contained the files from the rebuilt packages 16:32 < rxr> hm 16:37 < rxr> blindcoder: could you investigate this? 16:37 < blindcoder> rxr: I'll do as soon as my laptop is installed 16:45 < rxr> oki 16:45 * daja77 waves 16:47 < rxr> daja77: ;-)? 16:47 * rxr waves back 16:47 < daja77> hehe /me just here on a short visit 16:55 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD9E4FB46.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:55 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F2C8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Nick collision from services.) 16:55 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 16:56 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD9005714.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:58 < blindcoder> rxr: could you please increase the priority of dvgrab by 3.000 (past libavc1394)? 16:58 -!- aktnot [ident@181.80-202-66.nextgentel.com] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 16:58 -!- aktnot [ident@181.80-202-66.nextgentel.com] has joined #rocklinux 16:59 -!- aktnot [ident@181.80-202-66.nextgentel.com] has quit (Client Quit) 16:59 -!- aktnot [ident@181.80-202-66.nextgentel.com] has joined #rocklinux 16:59 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-072-237.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17:03 < rolla> rxr: sorry took me a while to get back 17:03 < rolla> rxr: I would need a bootable iso or just load gentoo and make a ultrasparc rock iso for myself 17:09 -!- k3t_ [k3t@pD9005712.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:25 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD9005714.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:51 -!- SMP [~stefanp@vanessa.wronline.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 17:51 -!- SMP [~stefanp@vanessa.wronline.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:56 < rxr> oh this g* word ... 18:02 < praenti> hi 18:05 < praenti> anyone coincidentally here with typo3 knowledge? 18:10 < rxr> praenti: only useage stuff (mostly) 18:14 < praenti> shitt. i have at the moment some problems with an extension for creating templates. 18:18 < rxr> cu 18:18 < praenti> cu rxr 18:26 * netrunne1 has a feeling to play ut and reboots his build server. bbl 18:26 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 19:30 -!- snyke [~snyke@62.245.214.132] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 19:38 -!- dsoul [darksoul@www.offspring.art.pl] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 19:41 -!- _snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:42 -!- _snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has quit (Client Quit) 19:44 -!- _snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:45 -!- _snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has quit (Client Quit) 19:45 -!- _snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:54 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-072-237.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:03 -!- dsoul [darksoul@pingu.ii.uj.edu.pl] has joined #rocklinux 20:11 -!- _snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has quit (Client Quit) 20:13 -!- _snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:15 -!- _snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has quit (Client Quit) 20:16 -!- __snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:19 -!- __snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has quit (Client Quit) 20:27 < mnemoc> re 21:06 -!- aktnot [ident@181.80-202-66.nextgentel.com] has quit ("leaving") 21:09 < mnemoc> is the ML archive operative?? 21:10 < mnemoc> i only get empty pages 21:20 < mnemoc> aaarg... /me really hates tgz 'pseudo'-patches to override the 'obsolete' code :-\ and it's worse when they are compressed from outside srcdir with a fscking different NAME! aaaaarg 21:21 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:22 < netcrow> hi snyke 21:22 < snyke> hi 21:23 < snyke> kleinesArschloch / owl: ich brauch das keyword 21:23 < snyke> bitte qrys mir 21:24 < mnemoc> english please 21:24 < snyke> mh, sorry. 21:25 < mnemoc> but you don't need to translate owl's new nick ; 21:25 < mnemoc> ;) 21:25 < snyke> I don't say anything anymore. 21:26 < mnemoc> o_O talk freely... i gotta go ;) 21:28 < snyke> nono 22:31 < mnemoc> re 23:00 -!- sekhmet [~pez@adsl-68-78-232-235.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:08 < sekhmet> 'ello all 23:09 < mnemoc> hi sekhmet 23:10 < sekhmet> If I'm reading the Rock Linux docs correctly, it looks like it should be possible to build a Rock system on one machine (presumably a fast machine), copy over the binary files (through whatever method) to the actual machine I want to run Rock on (presumably slower than the build machine), and have things basically work (after the requisite bootloader twiddling, of course). Am I correct in this interpretation? 23:11 < sekhmet> (hi, mnemoc ) 23:14 < mnemoc> that's exactly how rock is designed to work 23:15 < mnemoc> and add to your interpretation that that two machines can be of absolutly different architectures 23:15 < sekhmet> Right, yeah, if I'm cross-compiling or whatever... 23:15 < sekhmet> Excellent. 23:17 < sekhmet> Well, I do believe I'll give it a whirl for my firewall machine then. 23:18 < mnemoc> good luck 23:18 < sekhmet> I take it -rc2 is the latest? 23:18 < mnemoc> try to use last snapshot 23:18 < mnemoc> we are about to release -rc4 23:19 < sekhmet> Sure, makes sense... 23:19 < mnemoc> first focus in understanding how rock works 23:20 < mnemoc> then in design your target 23:20 < mnemoc> and after that make your real firewall 23:20 < sekhmet> Yeah, I've got a spare machine I figured I'd give it a whirl on... 23:20 < sekhmet> ... get used to it and all before axing my old one. 23:21 < sekhmet> It should be a pretty minimal system so I should be able to burn through builds relatively quickly., 23:22 < mnemoc> we plan to release 2.0 this month so you can play and learn with rc4 and finaly build it with the stable ;) 23:22 < sekhmet> Perhaps I need to take a nap or something, but where exactly are the snapshots housed? 23:22 < sekhmet> Or should I just grab it from subversion? 23:23 < mnemoc> mmm 23:23 < mnemoc> iirc there are snapshots somewhere but checking out directly is better :) 23:23 < sekhmet> Rock. 23:25 * sekhmet wanders off to install subversion 23:25 < mnemoc> there are staticly linked svn clients on https://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de 23:26 < mnemoc> (iirc) 23:26 < sekhmet> Not a prob, I'm just building it now. 23:26 < sekhmet> My primary desktop is Gentoo at the moment, so it's pretty easy to grab new stuff. 23:29 < mnemoc> it's a good excercise to take a G* package and compare it with it's equivalent on rock :) e.g. mozilla 23:30 < sekhmet> Yeah, it should be fun. 23:30 < sekhmet> Been far too long since I tried out a new distro 23:37 < mnemoc> btw, by package i mean the 'definition' of it, how to get it, how to build it and ow to make it work 23:45 < sekhmet> Yeah, I dig it. 23:45 < sekhmet> I am familiar with the meta-distribution concept. 23:45 < sekhmet> :) 23:46 < mnemoc> rock is not a meta-distribution as G* ppl define it ;) 23:52 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-072-237.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 23:52 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-072-237.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux --- Log closed Sat Dec 13 00:00:14 2003