--- Log opened Fri Dec 12 00:00:01 2003
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00:04 < mnemoc> have anyone fixed 'extern' errors in .xs files after perl update?
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00:06 < daja77> erh can a do nested #ifdef ?
00:06 < mnemoc> bbl
00:06 < mnemoc> daja77: sure you can
00:06 < daja77> cool
00:16 < daja77> n8 you all
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01:03 < rxr> re
01:13 < mnemoc> re
01:19 < mnemoc> rxr: can ./autogen.sh before ./configure be considered somehow 'standard'?
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01:49 < ierk> mnemoc: only for cvs or simmilar kind of software
01:50 < ierk> mnemoc: i mean software from cvs. not revision control software
01:52 < mnemoc> i was think in including it in rock's magic build_this_package... but i desisted
01:56 * ierk is off to bed
01:57 < mnemoc> gn8 ierk 
01:59 < mnemoc> autogen = 1 :) undocumented staff 
02:03 < rxr> ;-)
02:04 < rxr> autogen is higly ugly - due to the auto* dung and it's general version mismatch autogen does often not work on ROCK based system because we are too up-to-date ...
02:04 < mnemoc> :|
02:05 < rxr> so the next rocknet iteration ...
02:05 < rxr> cu later ...
02:05 < rxr> (after sleep)
02:05 < mnemoc> cu rxr
02:05 < mnemoc> sleep well
02:13 < rxr> current SVN:HEAD error list of a desktop build (x86):
02:13 < rxr> Error logs from system-2.0.0-rc4-x86-pentium-mmx-32-desktop-expert:
02:13 < rxr>  [3]   0 base/prelink                    [5]   0 rene/ffmpeg
02:13 < rxr>  [5]   0 esden/povray35                  [5]   0 gnome24/seahorse
02:13 < rxr>  [5]   0 gnome24/gst-plugins             [5]   0 gnome24/gnome-vfs-extras
02:13 < rxr>  [5]   0 rene/coda                       [5]   0 rene/vlc
02:13 < rxr>  [5]   0 gnome24/gnome-media             [5]   0 gnome24/nautilus-media
02:13 < rxr>  [5]   0 gnome24/rhythmbox               [5]   0 gnome24/gnomemeeting
02:13 < rxr>  [5]   0 misc/dfbsee                     [5]   0 gnome24/pybliographer
02:13 < rxr> but now i'm off ...
02:13 < rxr> oh - --prelink of course - not yet rebuild ...
02:15 < mnemoc> no?
02:15 < mnemoc> aaa
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03:17 < _MadTux> moin
03:17 < _MadTux> ping mnemoc
03:19 < mnemoc> pong
03:19 < _MadTux> Hi Ale! :)
03:19 < _MadTux> how are you?
03:19 < mnemoc> fine... and you?
03:20 < _MadTux> doing geat myself
03:20 < _MadTux> mnemoc: read your notes about vROCK
03:20 < mnemoc> _MadTux: the ticket for bogota costs the double than miami's :\
03:20 < mnemoc> chaotic notes :)
03:21 < _MadTux> hehe
03:21 < _MadTux> mnemoc: well how about medellin?
03:21 < mnemoc> hope you can decrypt them
03:21 < _MadTux> yes i understand mnemocist :)
03:22 < mnemoc> daja couldn't read it :(
03:22 < _MadTux> mnemoc: btw i don't know if I already gave you the thanks for fixing prelink, so thanks :)
03:22 < mnemoc> no plain to medellin
03:22 < _MadTux> mnemoc: now i will get on the nerves of the guy that updated pcmcia-cs ...
03:23 < mnemoc> you don't have to thank ;-)  iirc it was an order :|
03:23 < _MadTux> no _planes_ from chile to medellin?! :(
03:23 < mnemoc> nope
03:23 < _MadTux> grr...
03:23 < mnemoc> www.lanchile.cl
03:23 < _MadTux> going to bogota is quite expensive
03:24 < mnemoc> US$ 635
03:24 < _MadTux> mnemoc: just out of curiousity, how much is it to come over to San Jose, Costa Rica
03:24 < _MadTux> ?
03:25 < mnemoc> santiago-miami-san jose :\
03:26 < _MadTux> 0_o
03:26 < mnemoc> 1,313.74
03:26 < _MadTux> OMG!
03:26 < _MadTux> mnemoc: that more than what cost me to go to germany.!
03:26 < mnemoc> you don't live on the bottom of the worl :(
03:27 < _MadTux> i guess people in the end of the world are rich or so..
03:27 < mnemoc> they don't fly :)
03:27 * _MadTux preparing today's patches
03:28 < _MadTux> so what do you guys do? ride on horse?
03:28 < mnemoc> bus :)
03:28 < _MadTux> hehe
03:30 < mnemoc> 140.30 santiago-buenos aires-santiago
03:30 < mnemoc> 260.50 santiago-rio-santiago
03:31 < mnemoc> can you guess where do chilean go? ;)
03:31 < _MadTux> you bastards!
03:31 < _MadTux> so this is why Chilenos speak like argentinos?
03:31 * _MadTux hides
03:32 < mnemoc> no, we don't :)
03:32 < _MadTux> :)
03:33 < mnemoc> you all speak like boricuas :)
03:33 < _MadTux> scary.
03:34 < mnemoc> ?
03:34 < _MadTux> ok x86 package updates out. preparing base updates patch
03:34 < _MadTux> mnemoc: nothing nervermind :)
03:35 < mnemoc> :\
03:36 < _MadTux> brb /me finishing stuff to submit to rlml
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04:02 < _MadTux> ok patches submission finished
04:03 < _MadTux> nobody scare, its not a mail patches bomb :)
04:03 < _MadTux> mnemoc: still alive?
04:03 < mnemoc> .
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04:03 < _MadTux> good.
04:03 < _MadTux> mnemoc: i have sent a patch for the inclussion of bdb42 and asked rene to remove bdb41
04:04 < mnemoc> how tested is it?
04:04 < _MadTux> mnemoc: maybe we could join work and see if we can replace bdb40 with bdb42
04:04 < _MadTux> mnemoc: made a whole build of minimal+xfree with it
04:04 < _MadTux> including stage9
04:04 < mnemoc> what about flist?
04:05 < mnemoc> include/db42 --> db
04:05 < mnemoc> lib/... etc etc etc
04:05 < _MadTux> mmm...
04:05 < mnemoc> bdb* are a complex 'team'
04:05 < _MadTux> yes i know.
04:06 < _MadTux> I'm just hating the fact that we are running nearly every existing bdb version...
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04:07 < mnemoc> i have man, man-page, net-snmp and ntfsprogs updates in pending patches :\
04:08 < _MadTux> mm..
04:08 < _MadTux> i provided updates for  man-page and net-snmp
04:08 < _MadTux> mnemoc: how big is exactly your patches queue?
04:08 < mnemoc> == 12/12/03 00:10:02 =[5]=> Finished building package mono-doc. <---- yes yes yes
04:09 < _MadTux> hehe
04:09 < mnemoc> excluding package/mnemoc-devel i have 475k on .diff files
04:09 < _MadTux> mmm....
04:10 * _MadTux just has 16k pending
04:11 < mnemoc> i'll send mono/gtk# related updates now 
04:11 < _MadTux> :)
04:11 < _MadTux> you really are an update freak
04:12 * _MadTux updating his svn tree
04:12 < mnemoc> next step is vserver, i have 0.27 on my repo and 1.20 is out :|
04:13 < _MadTux> mm... yeah you got to take care of ur repo stuff..
04:13 < _MadTux> specially now that we are plaaning vROCK :)
04:16 < SMP> hi you two
04:16 < _MadTux> Greetings SMP
04:16 < mnemoc> i was fighting against hi SMP
04:17 < mnemoc> i was fighting against mono* mess
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04:21 < _MadTux> mnemoc: if you have time, please update automake :)
04:21 < mnemoc> i send that.... let my check
04:21 < _MadTux> must warn u some work will be needed else acl will brake..
04:22 < mnemoc> yes?
04:22 < mnemoc> never used attr/acl
04:22 < _MadTux> mnemoc: an update of dialog is also available but somehow it is braking mine.. will fight with this later i guess
04:24 < mnemoc> as was discused on ML, last dialog update has an api change 
04:24 < _MadTux> atm i need i am doing some work on 2.4.23 alpha stuff to send it out before marcelo releases 2.4.24
04:24 < mnemoc> i have patches for minimal
04:24 < mnemoc> but not checked x11/*
04:24 < _MadTux> mnemoc: hehe sorry, i wasn't following ML till maybe the last 2 days..
04:24 < mnemoc> :)
04:25 < _MadTux> wellw hat can I say? i'm a busy person..
04:26 < mnemoc> :)
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04:59 * _MadTux just got himself a iso storage box :)
05:01 < _MadTux> model name      : Pentium 75 - 200 <--- yeah I'm still obseced with reusing old hardware
05:02 * _MadTux pokes mnemoc with a stick
05:03 < mnemoc> :)
05:04 < mnemoc> do you have one of those with enough space for 'iso storage'?
05:05 < _MadTux> yeah
05:05 < _MadTux> :)
05:06 < _MadTux> don't spect A LOT of space, but yeah it has 30gb for storage
05:06 < _MadTux> i don't really keep my self much isos
05:06 < mnemoc> 30gb is pretty much for a p75 ;)
05:07 < _MadTux> well yah :)
05:22 < mnemoc> how is your cluster going?
05:41 < mnemoc> _MadTux: didn't say anything about the 'notes'... still liking the idea?
05:42 < _MadTux> ok back again
05:42 < _MadTux> mnemoc: cluster project on standby while i fix 2 more boxes
05:42 < _MadTux> mnemoc: regarding the notes i like the ideas
05:42 < _MadTux> i will make a few suggestions
05:43 < _MadTux> spect a mail  sometime today or tomorrow
05:43 < mnemoc> ok... /me hope we are sharing the same view
05:43 < _MadTux> we are yes :)
05:44 < mnemoc> great :)
05:44 < mnemoc> then you will explain it to the 'community' :)
05:44 < _MadTux> you bastard!
05:45 < _MadTux> i will try, but you will reply to all questions :)
05:45 < mnemoc> deal
05:45 < _MadTux> :)
05:46 < mnemoc> did you read my mail about openrock and the dwarf sculping?
05:46 < _MadTux> i don't think so
05:46 < _MadTux> mail subjetc?
05:46 < mnemoc> wait
05:46 < _MadTux> or if you can resend it just to me :)
05:48 * _MadTux making coffee
05:49 < mnemoc> Project renaming 5-11-03
05:50 < mnemoc> _MadTux: can you cvs those notes? just to keep them 'tracked'
05:51 < mnemoc> mail forwarded
05:53 < _MadTux> mnemoc: cvs? yeah i guess this shouldn't be a problem :)
05:54 < _MadTux> mnemoc: which reminds me i owe you the cvs and shell account
05:54 < _MadTux> mnemoc: just out of curiosity, what would you use the shell for?
05:54 < mnemoc> rock :)
05:54 < mnemoc> we can share download/ ;-)
05:55 < mnemoc> i'm rocking on a box from a work i lose 3 month ago
05:55 < mnemoc> the change passwords but didn't remove authorized_keys ;-)
05:56 < mnemoc> they
05:56 < _MadTux> hehe
05:57 < _MadTux> i see so you want a shell to be able to run builds on the box?
05:57 < mnemoc> yes :(
05:57 < mnemoc> vserver?
05:57 < _MadTux> tell you what, let me finish the cluster, then you can have it :)
05:57 < mnemoc> fix those two damn boxes now!
05:57 < _MadTux> mnemoc: no sad faces, youve been gaining my trust
05:58 < mnemoc> :-)
05:58 < _MadTux> mnemoc: i am fixing them, be patient, i also have other stuff to do :)
05:58 -!- mnemoc is now known as ProudMnemoc
05:59 < ProudMnemoc> don't worry... i also have lot of pending work
05:59 < _MadTux> mm.. why Proud?
06:00 < ProudMnemoc> because i gain your trust ;)
06:00 < _MadTux> hehe.
06:02 < _MadTux> 50 minutes building kernel 2.6.0 mm... i need to upgrade hardware :(
06:02 < ProudMnemoc> 2.6 is damn fat
06:03 < ProudMnemoc> i think i'll stay on 2.4 for a looong time
06:03 < _MadTux> well yeah that too :)
06:03 < _MadTux> i don't think i will.
06:04 < _MadTux> 2.4 wil be for production enviroments for maybe a few more months after stable release is out, but my development boxes will run 2.6.0 as soon as rock can work without devfs :)
06:04 < _MadTux> ProudMnemoc: when do you think rock 2.0-final will be out?
06:04 < ProudMnemoc> we don't use too many /dev nodes, ...
06:05 < ProudMnemoc> 2.0? febrary?
06:05 < _MadTux> that be great.. but i still think its too optimistic..
06:06 < ProudMnemoc> if we replace mount devfs code with a couple of binds /dev indepence on build time will be achieved
06:06 < _MadTux> well guess you are right. But i think i would like to leave this to be done after stable rock is out :)
06:06 < ProudMnemoc> rxr is doing rocknet staff instead of waiting cliff, we put his head on it
06:07 < ProudMnemoc> _MadTux: i'm also talking about 2.1 ;)
06:07 < _MadTux> good.
06:08 < ProudMnemoc> my pending patches are *really* simples but nobody have look into them :(
06:08 < ProudMnemoc> and zero-risk :)
06:09 < _MadTux> ProudMnemoc: well when you send patches out, it is asumed that the tree maintainer is the one to apply or reject them
06:09 < _MadTux> zero-risk? like prelink? :P
06:09 < ProudMnemoc> they stay in silence :|
06:09 < ProudMnemoc> prelink got broken because of a binutils update
06:10 < _MadTux> ProudMnemoc: it isn't really into our control :(
06:10 < ProudMnemoc> they move some public #defines into glibc but they release prelink, binutil and not glibc :|
06:11 < _MadTux> sucl
06:11 < _MadTux> suck*
06:11 < ProudMnemoc> :)
06:11 < _MadTux> I wonder when will this lazy germans wake up
06:12 < _MadTux> guess the first 2 to show up will be blindy and netrunner, maybe n00kie
06:12 < ProudMnemoc> bc in 3 hours
06:12 < ProudMnemoc> blindy and netrunner, not n00kie :)
06:13 < ProudMnemoc> SMP is awake :)
06:13 < _MadTux> ProudMnemoc: well n00kie has his moments :)
06:13 < _MadTux> well SMP doesn't really count, he is a vampire like us.
06:14 * SMP was so tired, wanted to sleep, but got called in after 5 hours cause a server got ill ;-(
06:14 < _MadTux> SMP: that sucks the big time :(
06:15 < ProudMnemoc> :|
06:15 < ProudMnemoc> hi SMP :)
06:15 < _MadTux> SMP: does it mean you currently work on normal working hours?
06:16 < SMP> no, but I was just about to fix that, but then this happened
06:16 < _MadTux> oh.
06:22 * ProudMnemoc need more hot water
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08:14 < _MadTux> ProudMnemoc: awake?
08:14 < ProudMnemoc> yep
08:14 < _MadTux> good news
08:14 < _MadTux> One of the machines fixed :)
08:14 < _MadTux> need to install it and all, but its starting, recognizing hardware etc :)
08:15 < ProudMnemoc> just curious, what kind of hardware are you talking about? ;)
08:16 < _MadTux> this one is p3 1.3, 512mb ram 80gb..
08:16 < _MadTux> even by its own should be fast enough for ur needs
08:17 < _MadTux> Ale?
08:17 < ProudMnemoc> i change from a pmmx/200/128M/8GB to a p2/266/384M/20G
08:18 < ProudMnemoc> do you think that p3 can be considered slow by me?
08:18 < ProudMnemoc> my home pc is a p3/766/512M/40G
08:19 < _MadTux> hehe :)
08:19 < _MadTux> good so lets wait just a bit more ok?
08:20 < _MadTux> tu paciencia sera recompenzada como podes ver :)
08:20 < ProudMnemoc> i can wait as much as you can need
08:20 < ProudMnemoc> lo tnego mas que claro ;)
08:30 < _MadTux> mmmm... ok people starting to freak out with my bdb42 patch
08:31 < ProudMnemoc> praenti
08:31 < ProudMnemoc> what did you expected? 
08:34 < _MadTux> hehe, yeah guess he won't be the first to scream
08:34 < _MadTux> the least people i think i will hear from will be blindy, rene, maybe clifford, daja77 and esden
08:35 < _MadTux> oh and if tcr is reading the list he will for sure scream
08:35 < ProudMnemoc> he was the first, won't be the last :)
08:35 < _MadTux> actually you were thre first, just not on the list
08:36 < ProudMnemoc> :)
08:36 < blindcoder> you're talking about me?
08:36 < blindcoder> moin 
08:36 < ProudMnemoc> no :)
08:37 < _MadTux> hi blindy
08:37 < blindcoder> moin _MadTux 
08:37 < _MadTux> blindcoder: no we weren't talking about u, just about one of my patches.. guess you haven't read rlml
08:37 < blindcoder> ProudMnemoc: why so proud? Did you become father? :)
08:38 < blindcoder> _MadTux: not yet... should I skip reading it before breakfast?
08:39 < _MadTux> nah, have breakfast first, save the anger and screams after breakfast :)
08:40 < ProudMnemoc> blindcoder: i am father (since march 2001), but now i'm proud because of a matter of trust relationships
08:40 < blindcoder> ProudMnemoc: I see
08:41 < _MadTux> blindy enjoy your breakfast ;-)
08:41 < blindcoder> _MadTux: hmm... if the bdb thing really works and we can drop bdb41 then... what the hell, just update it
08:41 < ProudMnemoc> update and rename
08:41 < _MadTux> wow. I didn't spect you would react so positive
08:42 < _MadTux> blindcoder: its tested on a minimal+xfree build, haven't test it onb a full generic or desktop build
08:43 < blindcoder> _MadTux: I don't like the update, but I like three bdbs even less :)
08:43 < _MadTux> for my minimal+xfree and the currently running minimal (stage9) haven't get errors
08:43 < ProudMnemoc> bdb33 and bdb42
08:43 < _MadTux> blindcoder: well actually rock desktop and generic uses 4 bdb versions..
08:44 < blindcoder> urgs
08:44 < blindcoder> ARGH! WHO MESSED UP MY BUILD-PRIORITIES?!
08:44 < blindcoder> if we can drop one bdb then, so apply it
08:44 < _MadTux> blindcoder: yea evolutions uses bdb 3.1.17, then we have bdb33, and bdb4 and bdb41...
08:45 < _MadTux> well bdb42 seems to replace just fine 41..
08:45 < blindcoder> that's good :)
08:45 < _MadTux> after stable realease, we can consider to also replace bdb4 with bdb42
08:45 < blindcoder> mhm
08:45 < _MadTux> depending on how it works
08:46 < ProudMnemoc> _MadTux: remember rene is inlove with bdb40
08:46 < _MadTux> ProudMnemoc: i know. but heck if i can prove 42 will do the job :)
08:46 < blindcoder> so, I'm now putting on some clothes (still in bed) and will then walk down to the kitchen
08:46 < _MadTux> ProudMnemoc: though i don't have the time or patience for the 40 - 42 thing right now
08:46 < ProudMnemoc> nakedcoder :\
08:47 < _MadTux> OMG, you are naked again
08:47 * _MadTux covers his eyes before seen something he really doesn't want to
08:47 < ProudMnemoc> _MadTux: just remember love is blind (link the naked coder one around here)
08:48 < ProudMnemoc> s/one//
08:48 < _MadTux> ProudMnemoc: mm... i really don't think i wanna know what you are thinking right now.
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08:48 < ProudMnemoc> rene is inlove with subversion, and subversion convinse him to love bdb40
08:49 < ProudMnemoc> love is blind so don't expect logical reactions
08:49 < _MadTux> ProudMnemoc: i know.
08:49 < _MadTux> so anyways i'll be back in 1/2 an hour
08:49 < ProudMnemoc> and that naked coder is suposed to be blind too
08:49 < ProudMnemoc> cu
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08:51 < blindcoder>  i never said naked but "in bed"
08:51 < mnemoc> "I'm now putting on some clothes"
08:51 < mnemoc> cloth over cloth or cloth over nakedcoder?
08:52 < mnemoc> +e
08:52 < blindcoder> I was wearing my night clothes
08:53 < blindcoder> greetings to #rocklinux from my dog :(
08:53 < blindcoder> :)
08:53 < mnemoc> so you are waring night+day clothes and have a happy dog
08:54 < blindcoder> I'm only wearing day clothes now and have a happy dog because he just got a hug and some sweets
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09:08 < logic7> yo
09:08 < logic7> anyone up?
09:09 < blindcoder> I'm having breakfast
09:09 < blindcoder> what's up?
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09:11 < mnemoc> he saw you naked and run away
09:11 < blindcoder> I'm not naked anymore!
09:12 < mnemoc> naked and eating a sweet dog :(
09:13 < blindcoder> I'm not eating my dog!!!
09:13 < blindcoder> or are you eating your children?
09:14 < mnemoc> i haven't talk about eating and neither about my children
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09:22 < _MadTux> re
09:23 < mnemoc> wb MadTux
09:23 < _MadTux> thanks mnemoc :)
09:23 < _MadTux> mnemoc: you don't sleep either?
09:24 < mnemoc> i delete 2 month of work on saturday and i have THE meeting in 5 hours
09:24 < _MadTux> ah yeah i remeber about ur little accident. :/
09:25 < _MadTux> mnemoc: how much have you progress already?
09:25 < mnemoc> 30-40% :(
09:25 < _MadTux> mm...
09:25 < _MadTux> so i won't disturb you 
09:26 < mnemoc> :)
09:30 < mnemoc> what a freak language (c#)
09:30 < _MadTux> yuk
09:31 < mnemoc> if (foo) string food; else int food;
09:31 < mnemoc> is VALID
09:33 < _MadTux> hungry?
09:34 < mnemoc> yep
09:37 < _MadTux> eat :)
09:38 < daja77> moin maze_fan 
09:38 < daja77> moin _MadTux 
09:38 < _MadTux> hi daja77
09:39 * mnemoc feels ignored
09:39 < daja77> hola mnemoc 
09:39 < mnemoc> :D hola daja77 
09:39 < _MadTux> daja77: bahh!
09:40 < daja77> hm?
09:40 < _MadTux> it was fun to see him begging for a greeting
09:40 < _MadTux> :P
09:40 < mnemoc> :)
09:40 < _MadTux> jk mnemocy
09:40 < mnemoc> i'm not sane today
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09:41 < _MadTux> mnemoc: ja!like if you've ever beens ane..
09:41 < _MadTux> sane*
09:41 < mnemoc> o_O
09:41 < _MadTux> code code!
09:41 < daja77> hehe
09:42 < _MadTux> mnemoc: just deal with the fact that you are insane, and that ur distiny is to code on c# for the rest of the day
09:42 < mnemoc> :|
09:43 < _MadTux> mnemoc: come on Ale, cheer up.
09:43 < mnemoc> but i'll have a shell and root access to a very fast ultra super cluster tomorrow ;)
09:44 < _MadTux> tomorrow? hehe we shall see :)
09:44 < mnemoc> :\
09:44 < _MadTux> i sleep you know
09:44 < mnemoc> me?
09:44 < mnemoc> forget that
09:44 < _MadTux> Doctor said i need to act like if i was mortal and sleep a lot
09:44 < mnemoc> read now instad of know
09:45 < _MadTux> you are talking non sence stuff.. have you drink enough coffee?
09:45 < mnemoc> he is an ignorant
09:45 < mnemoc> i need more
09:45 < _MadTux> :)
09:45 < mnemoc> but my stomach is doing weird noises
09:46 < _MadTux> eat and get coffee, you need to finish that stuff in less than 4 hours
09:47 < mnemoc> i'll get a shower
09:47 < mnemoc> with cold water
09:47 < _MadTux> ggood choice
09:47 < _MadTux> have fun
09:48 * blindcoder back
09:50 < _MadTux> wb blindy
09:52 < daja77> moin blindy
09:52 < blindcoder> moin daja77 
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09:59 * daja77 off to university now
10:29 < rxr> re
10:29 < _MadTux> hello Ren
10:29 < rxr> hi _MadTux 
10:33 < maze_fan> moin rxr 
10:42 < blindcoder> narf, a whole gnome update >_<
10:43 < blindcoder> this'll take ages to download >_<
10:43 < _MadTux> hehehehe
10:43 < _MadTux> enjoy :)
10:43 < blindcoder> nah
10:43 < blindcoder> that means that my new laptop will have to waut for linux even longer
10:46 < blindcoder> 19 packages failed, so I thought a quick svn up and -newdelete should help, but alas: a whole fucking new gnome  and with that 269 packages to rebuild
10:50 < blindcoder> and the build priority of dvgrab is fucked up, too
10:56 < _MadTux> not exactly ur lucky day is it
10:56 < _MadTux> ?
10:56 < blindcoder> not really
10:58 < blindcoder> rxr: I'm a lazy bastard, would you please increase the priority of dvgrab by 3.000 (past libavc1394)
10:58 < blindcoder> without a patch
11:04 < blindcoder> brb
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11:13 < daja77> re
11:13 * blindcoder back
11:13 < _MadTux> wb daja77
11:13 < daja77> thx :)
11:13 < _MadTux> und blindy
11:14 < blindcoder> :)
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11:34 < daja77> .kz?! wtf
11:35 < mnemoc> and what .kz is?
11:36 < daja77> tld, see YDS
11:37 * mnemoc wants to know the name of the coutry :)
11:37 < mnemoc> and you already search it
11:38 < daja77> Kazakhstan
11:38 < mnemoc> ehm
11:39 < daja77> hm?
11:39 < daja77> former part of the soviet union (.su)
11:39 < mnemoc> ok :)
11:40 < mnemoc> there are too many former parts of .su for me :|
11:40 * daja77 had to learn them once
11:41 < daja77> ok off now
11:52 < rxr> re
11:53 < _MadTux> re rxr
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11:53 < _MadTux> LocalHero: !
11:54 < LocalHero> _MadTux, hi :).. Whazzup?
11:55 < _MadTux> LocalHero: nothing much, rocking as usual, you ?
11:55 < mnemoc> goota go... cu *
11:55 < mnemoc> gotta*
11:55 < _MadTux> mnemoc: cya
11:56 < LocalHero> _MadTux, have lots of exams to study for :(
11:56 < _MadTux> LocalHero: sorry to hear that.
11:56 < LocalHero> _MadTux,, ass usual you do everything not to study :).. hehe, give the flowers water, clean the apartment etc etc :)
11:58 < _MadTux> mm.. i got no time for that relaxing stuff, just Code, Uni, Code, work and Code... and if i have some spare time.. Code.
12:09 < rxr> cu
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12:17 < _MadTux> wee my patches are applied :)
12:23 < _MadTux> grrr... rene kept bdb41 and added my bdb42 patches..
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12:54 < kleinesArschloch> moin
12:55 < _MadTux> hi owly
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12:58 < kleinesArschloch> hi dsoul 
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13:22 < kleinesArschloch> .oO(all those lazy guys here...)
13:32 < daja77> :p
13:34 < kleinesArschloch> *g* heh, daja77 just woke up :p hi
13:34 < kleinesArschloch> how are you?
13:34 < daja77> hehe no me up since 8:00
13:34 < daja77> quite fine
13:34 < kleinesArschloch> respect :p
13:34 < kleinesArschloch> .oO(gluehweinbonbons are better than anti-depressiva *g*)
13:35 < daja77> she comes later that day ...
13:35 < kleinesArschloch> .oO(or was it the driving-license-course....?)
13:35 < kleinesArschloch> the depression?
13:35 < daja77> nope
13:35 < kleinesArschloch> who then? ;)
13:35 < kleinesArschloch> your gf?
13:36 < daja77> ahem yes ..
13:36 < kleinesArschloch> ah.k ;) enjoy it then ;)
13:38 < daja77> yep thx
13:39 < kleinesArschloch> de nada
13:40 < kleinesArschloch> btw, while talking... do you know by accident, what "voraussetzungen" are needed, to get "kruecken verschrieben auf rezept/von arzt"...? (the ones i'm currently using, are not high enough and just borrowed by the doctor)
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13:51 < FBI_Pierreo> hi everyone
13:52 < kleinesArschloch> hi FBI_Pierreo 
13:52 < FBI_Pierreo> is rocklinux easy to install ?
13:55 < kleinesArschloch> it depends on what you define as "easy to install"... 
13:55 < FBI_Pierreo> not like mdk
13:55 < FBI_Pierreo> but not to difficult like openbsd
13:56 < kleinesArschloch> hmmm. (bsd is difficult?)
13:56 < kleinesArschloch> might you just should try it. 
13:56 < daja77> FBI_Pierreo: it is easier than openbsd
13:57 < FBI_Pierreo> ok
13:57 < kleinesArschloch> hrm..... guess i will sleep a bit longer again... gn8
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14:40 < rolla> re
14:48 < cytrinox`-> moin
14:55 < blindcoder> anyone got a copy of straw-0.21.2.tar.bz2?
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15:10 < ierk> re netrunner
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16:06 < rolla> re
16:10 < rxr> hi rolla 
16:11 < rolla> rxr what linux distro do you use to build rock for ultrasparc?
16:19 < rxr> rolla: rock ;-)
16:20 < rxr> I started by implanting an old 1.5 image onto the disk
16:20 < rxr> and then bootstrapped some 1.7
16:20 < rxr> and then some 2.0-something
16:20 < rxr> (beta4 or so)
16:20 < rxr> I just had not the time for the bootcode ...
16:21 < rxr> rolla: should I power-up the U5 and build a new .iso (which will not be bootable) for you?
16:24 < blindcoder> something seems buggy in Create-ErrList -newdelete
16:26 < rxr> blindcoder: details
16:27 < blindcoder> rxr: I did a complete generic build, svn up, Create-ErrList -newdelete, Download, Build-Target and then build/$ROCKCFG_ID/root/var/adm/packages only contained the files from the rebuilt packages
16:32 < rxr> hm
16:37 < rxr> blindcoder: could you investigate this?
16:37 < blindcoder> rxr: I'll do as soon as my laptop is installed
16:45 < rxr> oki
16:45 * daja77 waves
16:47 < rxr> daja77: ;-)?
16:47 * rxr waves back
16:47 < daja77> hehe /me just here on a short visit
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16:58 < blindcoder> rxr: could you please increase the priority of dvgrab by 3.000 (past libavc1394)?
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17:03 < rolla> rxr: sorry took me a while to get back
17:03 < rolla> rxr: I would need a bootable iso or just load gentoo and make a ultrasparc rock iso for myself
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17:56 < rxr> oh this g* word ...
18:02 < praenti> hi
18:05 < praenti> anyone coincidentally here with typo3 knowledge?
18:10 < rxr> praenti: only useage stuff (mostly)
18:14 < praenti> shitt. i have at the moment some problems with an extension for creating templates.
18:18 < rxr> cu
18:18 < praenti> cu rxr 
18:26 * netrunne1 has a feeling to play ut and reboots his build server. bbl
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20:27 < mnemoc> re
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21:09 < mnemoc> is the ML archive operative??
21:10 < mnemoc> i only get empty pages
21:20 < mnemoc> aaarg... /me really hates tgz 'pseudo'-patches to override the 'obsolete' code :-\ and it's worse when they are compressed from outside srcdir with a fscking different NAME! aaaaarg
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21:22 < netcrow> hi snyke 
21:22 < snyke> hi
21:23 < snyke> kleinesArschloch / owl: ich brauch das keyword
21:23 < snyke> bitte qrys mir
21:24 < mnemoc> english please
21:24 < snyke> mh, sorry.
21:25 < mnemoc> but you don't need to translate owl's new nick ;
21:25 < mnemoc> ;)
21:25 < snyke> I don't say anything anymore.
21:26 < mnemoc> o_O talk freely... i gotta go ;)
21:28 < snyke> nono
22:31 < mnemoc> re
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23:08 < sekhmet> 'ello all
23:09 < mnemoc> hi sekhmet 
23:10 < sekhmet> If I'm reading the Rock Linux docs correctly, it looks like it should be possible to build a Rock system on one machine (presumably a fast machine), copy over the binary files (through whatever method) to the actual machine I want to run Rock on (presumably slower than the build machine), and have things basically work (after the requisite bootloader twiddling, of course).  Am I correct in this interpretation?
23:11 < sekhmet> (hi, mnemoc )
23:14 < mnemoc> that's exactly how rock is designed to work
23:15 < mnemoc> and add to your interpretation that that two machines can be of absolutly different architectures
23:15 < sekhmet> Right, yeah, if I'm cross-compiling or whatever...
23:15 < sekhmet> Excellent.
23:17 < sekhmet> Well, I do believe I'll give it a whirl for my firewall machine then.
23:18 < mnemoc> good luck 
23:18 < sekhmet> I take it -rc2 is the latest?
23:18 < mnemoc> try to use last snapshot
23:18 < mnemoc> we are about to release -rc4
23:19 < sekhmet> Sure, makes sense...
23:19 < mnemoc> first focus in understanding how rock works
23:20 < mnemoc> then in design your target
23:20 < mnemoc> and after that make your real firewall
23:20 < sekhmet> Yeah, I've got a spare machine I figured I'd give it a whirl on...
23:20 < sekhmet> ... get used to it and all before axing my old one.
23:21 < sekhmet> It should be a pretty minimal system so I should be able to burn through builds relatively quickly.,
23:22 < mnemoc> we plan to release 2.0 this month so you can play and learn with rc4 and finaly build it with the stable ;)
23:22 < sekhmet> Perhaps I need to take a nap or something, but where exactly are the snapshots housed?
23:22 < sekhmet> Or should I just grab it from subversion?
23:23 < mnemoc> mmm
23:23 < mnemoc> iirc there are snapshots somewhere but checking out directly is better :)
23:23 < sekhmet> Rock.
23:25 * sekhmet wanders off to install subversion
23:25 < mnemoc> there are staticly linked svn clients on http://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de
23:26 < mnemoc> (iirc)
23:26 < sekhmet> Not a prob, I'm just building it now.
23:26 < sekhmet> My primary desktop is Gentoo at the moment, so it's pretty easy to grab new stuff.
23:29 < mnemoc> it's a good excercise to take a G* package and compare it with it's equivalent on rock :) e.g. mozilla
23:30 < sekhmet> Yeah, it should be fun.
23:30 < sekhmet> Been far too long since I tried out a new distro
23:37 < mnemoc> btw, by package i mean the 'definition' of it, how to get it, how to build it and ow to make it work
23:45 < sekhmet> Yeah, I dig it.
23:45 < sekhmet> I am familiar with the meta-distribution concept.
23:45 < sekhmet> :)
23:46 < mnemoc> rock is not a meta-distribution as G* ppl define it ;)
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