--- Log opened Mon Dec 15 00:00:03 2003
--- Day changed Mon Dec 15 2003
00:00 < rxr> nope - I'm just joking and want to know what I should do with mine now ...
00:00 < rxr> yeah - iproute2 is a good candiate
00:00 < mnemoc> :)
00:00 < rxr> candidate even
00:01 < clifford> I still don't understand what you have driven to release a mine version - and then even without intensive testing!
00:02 < clifford> What's wrong with adding a bugfix patch to package/base/mine/ as usual ????
00:02 < clifford> I can understand that it would be better to make a new release of mine earlier - but if there is no time to test it, it's a no-do!
00:02 < rxr> at some point there are too many hotfixes
00:02 < clifford> .. and you could have asked me first.
00:03 < rxr> clifford: I asked you a month ago
00:03 < rxr> I tested the area I changed
00:03 < rxr> I not yet discovered a project where it is usual to let untested and unfinished code lying in a version control system for two month
00:04 < rxr> when you apply something I take it as tested
00:04 < clifford> so why didn't you just release the part you have changed?
00:04 < rxr> and when there are no changes for two months as - used and not issues discovered yet
00:04 < clifford> linux kernel, gcc, binutils - just a name a few.
00:05 < rxr> I'm already unhappy with ROCK development - when you bug me furher you have one ROCKy less
00:05 < rxr> cu late
00:05 < rxr> r
00:05 < daja77> cu rxr
00:05 < mnemoc> cu rxr
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00:06 < mnemoc> ehm
00:10 < mnemoc> hi daja77 
00:10 < daja77> hi mnemoc 
00:10 < daja77> channel fighting sucks
00:11 < mnemoc> tr [a-z] [A-Z]
00:11 < daja77> hm?
00:12 < mnemoc> rewrite in uppercase :)
00:12 < daja77> ah k. :))
00:12 < mnemoc> i never thought rxr was so stressed
00:12 < daja77> he is
00:13 < daja77> i dunno why clifford was that much angry
00:13 < mnemoc> happy rock meeting
00:13 < daja77> yeah
00:14 < mnemoc> "shit happens. fix it and try to don't do it again"
00:15 * blindcoder happy now that his laptop with centrino wlan works and off to bed
00:15 < blindcoder> good night!
00:16 < daja77> n8 blindcoder 
00:16 < mnemoc> http://www.lyricsbox.com/disney-lyrics-hakuna-matata-9fzxz8p.html
00:16 < daja77> O_o
00:18 * daja77 off to bed now
00:18 < mnemoc> Hakuna Matata daja77 
00:18 < daja77> i know
00:19 < mnemoc> sleep well
00:19 < daja77> thx, cu
00:25 < rxr> hm - not really motivaed for the CCC anymore
00:25 < mnemoc>  when is it?
00:26 < rxr> 27-19
00:26 < rxr> 29 even
00:27 < mnemoc> rxr: sorry fot opening my mouth, when it started i didn't feel the bad aura around :|
00:28 < mnemoc> 5 days?? god
00:28 < rxr> nah from 27-29
00:28 < rxr> some more days
00:28 < mnemoc> uff
00:28 < mnemoc> :)
00:30 < mnemoc> you will be there with a desktop-{x86,ppc}-2.0.0 fsck the other archs for some days
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00:39 < rxr> so maybe mine builds
00:39 < rxr> can someone test HEAD
00:39 < rxr> I'm somehow not motivated for such crap 
00:40 < _^izaN^_> hi ;D
00:40 < rxr> hi _^izaN^_ 
00:42 < rxr> Btw:
00:42 < rxr> 00:13 < mnemoc> i never thought rxr was so stressed
00:42 < rxr> 00:13 < daja77> he is
00:42 < rxr> ^- I'm not stessed - I just fill pissed ...
00:43 < mnemoc> stress lead you to get pissed faster
00:43 < mnemoc> but i don't know cliff
00:44 * mnemoc co-ing mine
00:45 < rxr> mnemoc: but I really tell you with a smile on my face that I'm not stressed
00:45 < mnemoc> good to know :)
00:45 < mnemoc> Hakuna Matata rxr
00:45 < rxr> which means?
00:46 < mnemoc> never watched the lion king?
00:46 < mnemoc> should i apply rock's patches to mine's HEAD?
00:47 < rxr> which rock patches on what mine's HEAD?
00:49 < mnemoc> sv co svn://svn.rl-con.de/mine/trunk mine-trunk; cd mine-trunk; for x in rock-trunk/pacakge/base/mine/*.patch; do patch -p1 < $x; done 
00:49 < rxr> nah
00:49 < mnemoc> clean head
00:49 < rxr> mine has not changed - I just removed the tags
00:49 < rxr> in mine everything is up-to-date and fixed
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00:49 < mnemoc> 'mine' is a confusing name
00:50 < rxr> but in ROCK I restored the hotfixes, static fixes and added the var-adm-handling parch
00:50 < rxr> patch even
00:50 < rxr> as our dictator errr ober-guru requested
00:50 < mnemoc> i'll code gem2 and dwarf one of these days
00:52 < rxr> mnemoc: how far is iproute-the-other-new-different-one update?
00:53 < mnemoc> it doesnt' include metric thing
00:53 < mnemoc> i can easly add the keyword support, but can't do it work with my current knowledge
00:55 < rxr> I meant just updating our current package to it
00:55 < rxr> I can workout my metric problem then
00:56 < mnemoc> i was playing with CLIP, but that can wait... you will have your iproute2 patch in the morning
00:56 < mnemoc> (your morning)
00:56 < rxr> I think I should branch -rc4 before ...
00:57 < mnemoc> me too
01:06 * rxr wonders where I would be today if I would have continued my dRock fork ...
01:07 < praenti> hi
01:07 < praenti> rxr: i dont know
01:08 < mnemoc> rxr: you would be working on a fork of a dead project
01:08 < rxr> mnemoc: why dead?
01:09 < mnemoc> clifford don't have the time to mantain it
01:09 < praenti> the problem here i think is a missing test team. everyone of us test parts of rock but nobody does it with a structure...
01:10 < mnemoc> additionaly rene has too many different jobs on ROCK
01:11 < praenti> we need a team of testers who are not as deep as we are in rock to see the users problems and to generate new ideas, perhaps
01:11 < praenti> and thats a point which frustrates me sometimes
01:11 < rxr> praenti: we "just" need for users and (not that important) developers
01:12 < rxr> users could catch the tiny bugs when they are introduced - and not days(++) later
01:12 < praenti> i also think so
01:13 < praenti> cause a user tries, and doesnt work, so post to the developers
01:13 < praenti> ok. and then the developers must be fast enough to kill the bug
01:14 < praenti> difficult problem...
01:14 < mnemoc> split de ML can be a good start, _users_ run away from our patch floods :)
01:14 < rxr> yeah - but thst is not a problem in ROCK - when we locate a bug it is fixed JIT (Just In Time)
01:14 < rxr> mnemoc: tell this the over guru - I tell this for 3/4 of a year now ...
01:15 < rxr> a 2.0.0 is also a good start - should be in a nice shapre now
01:17 < praenti> hmm. i was originally against that but have not discussed with the persons, because i'm still thinking that this can also be a very big change to get a greater user community
01:19 < praenti> so it is little difficult. the point is the that the contact between developer and user will decrease i think
01:19 < praenti> but perhaps we need
01:19 < praenti> that
01:19 < mnemoc> two things: what if you open a list for patches (+ the list for changelog) and tell the common flooders to use it?
01:20 < mnemoc> 2. what archs will we choose for the first stable?
01:20 < praenti> mnemoc: hmm. that is a point. anybody thought about that?
01:21 < praenti> argl. i hate nights where i cannot find sleep...
01:21 * praenti is tired... grml
01:22 < mnemoc> as mike said, go to code bitch :)
01:23 < praenti> ...
01:24 < mnemoc> he said that to me at least :(
01:24 < praenti> tztztz
01:25 < praenti> but bitch? does that word really fit... :-)
01:25 < mnemoc> btw, a newsgroup can be a great improvement
01:25 < praenti> btw. have we a female person in the team? i dont think so
01:26 < mnemoc> owl :|
01:26 < praenti> is owl still in the team?
01:26 < rxr> praenti: yes - most did not like this
01:26 < rxr> praenti: this list seperation was exactly my proposal
01:27 < rxr> praenti: nope
01:27 < rxr> praenti: the other was jocelyn
01:27 < mnemoc> let's do it (unofficially)
01:27 < rxr> mnemoc: the list split ?
01:27 < praenti> rxr: thats strange. a separation between dev and users is not good i think. but a separation between patch and talk is ok
01:27 < mnemoc> owl still in the channel
01:27 < praenti> mnemoc: yes. but i thought she want to fork
01:27 < mnemoc> no separate users and dev, separate patchs and talk
01:27 < rxr> mnemoc: yes - but just haning around - she often said she is no longer a ROCKy ...
01:28 < mnemoc> she claims to be nothing at all
01:28 < rxr> mnemoc: others claimed that would result in undiscussed patches
01:28 < rxr> mnemoc: but I support the idea
01:28 < rxr> praenti: but Susanne wants to do a AfterStep package ...
01:28 < mnemoc> and setting reply-to of that list to the 'talk-list'?
01:28 < praenti> rxr: i dont think so. if a developers does not look into the patch list then he is no developer for me
01:29 < praenti> rxr: who is Susanne?
01:29 < rxr> praenti: you tell this to the wrong person
01:29 < rxr> praenti: aehm - my new girlfriend ,-)
01:29 < mnemoc> we need to DO something
01:29 < rxr> praenti: I told I'm not stressed ;-)
01:30 < mnemoc> just pissed ;)
01:30 < praenti> rxr: i know. but i understand me in that position that i also look into the patches of others because my package could be affected by any change
01:30 < mnemoc> can't youi subscribe to the patch list?
01:30 < praenti> rxr: uii lucky beggar
01:30 < rxr> I think it should be a normal list
01:31 < rxr> praenti: mnemoc: go and propose it on rock-linux
01:32 < mnemoc> at least the geeks i know feels more confortable with a newsgroup, ML is good for users.
01:32 < praenti> rxr: i dont like that discussed on the list. the discussion can be very emotional i think and because of that i prefer that discussion on 20c3
01:32 < rxr> hm - lurker (the list searcher) does not seem to work
01:32 < rxr> I'm not a newsgroup fan
01:33 < mnemoc> rxr: i said that before on channel and mail cliff 3 days ago
01:33 < rxr> I prefer normal mailing lists
01:33 < praenti> mnemoc: you can do a combination - i have seen some mailman lists which are newsgroup and ML
01:33 < praenti> look at the cups MLs
01:34 < mnemoc> maybe a gmane.rocklinux.org ;-)
01:34 * praenti also needs a girlfriend.
01:34 < praenti> ...
01:34 < praenti> really frustrating
01:35 < rxr> I also did not had a girlfirend for a long time
01:36 < rxr> praenti: I guess you even had more girlfriends in your life then I had ... ;-)
01:36 < praenti> rxr: are you shure?
01:36 < praenti> rxr: it was only one,
01:36 < praenti> :-)
01:36 < mnemoc> ehm
01:36 < mnemoc> i marry the second ;)
01:37 < praenti> *g*
01:37 < praenti> mnemoc: you are a fast guy, are you?
01:37 < mnemoc> i'm a decided one :D
01:37 < rxr> praenti: oh - but then the difference is at least not very high ... ;-)
01:38 < praenti> rxr: hä?
01:38 < praenti> one more?
01:38 < rxr> praenti: well two more - the third - and hopefully the last decision ;-)
01:39 * praenti hoping for rxr
01:39 < praenti> but thats life... "don't worry, be happy" *g*
01:39 < rxr> and /me hoping for praenti 
01:41 < mnemoc> rxr: will your last decition be with or without papers?
01:41 < praenti> papers? what papers?
01:41 < mnemoc> (marriage)
01:42 < rxr> mnemoc: well - it might end up there in some years ... ;-)
01:42 < praenti> ahh. thought you mean a contract
01:42 < mnemoc> let it flow :)
01:42 < rxr> mnemoc: I did not wanted to express s.th. else then flow ,-)
01:43 < praenti> *g*. ok i will now try to find some sleep. gn8
01:43 < mnemoc> gn8 praenti 
01:43 < mnemoc> good luck too :)
01:43 * praenti hunting for some sleep
01:44 < rxr> praenti: n8
01:46 < mnemoc> rxr, i thought you had officialy changed your signature to that slave thing :)
01:47 < rxr> nope
01:48 < mnemoc> will rockplug set xfree86?
01:48 < rxr> what aspect of xfree86 should it set?
01:48 < mnemoc> video and resolution
01:48 < mnemoc> (driver)
01:49 < rxr> no - ROCK Plug should be for the basic config
01:49 * mnemoc thinking in a livecd
01:49 < rxr> XFree86 has it's own new auto config
01:49 < rxr> (I have not yet tried this)
01:49 < mnemoc> yes? wow
01:49 < rxr> since 4.3.99.15 or so
01:49 < rxr> (they introduced the infrastructure work before and arround .15 it got into some final shape and started to work)
01:50 < rxr> ROCK Plug is for basic hardware configuration - mostly kernel related
01:50 < mnemoc> _kiss_ :)
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01:59 < rxr> mnemoc: i'll commit a ROCK Net Stone module addition in soem seconds
01:59 < rxr> I merged back the static hostname, domainname and DNS-Server settings
02:00 < rxr> but I have not yet an idea how to set the domainname in /etc/hosts since we do not have a static IP address in the config anymroe ...
02:00 < rxr> maybe you can take a look
02:00 < rxr> it might in general a good idea when you try rock net before I tag -rc4
02:02 < rxr> n8 all
02:07 < mnemoc> re
02:09 < mnemoc> i'm finishing a minibuild now, wmware is ready for testing :)
02:20 * SMP looks tired
02:20 < mnemoc> try sleeping :)
02:21 < SMP> I just got up ;)
02:21 < SMP> after 19hrs
02:22 < mnemoc> :
02:22 < mnemoc> o
02:22 < mnemoc> :o
02:22 < mnemoc> go to bed again :)
02:23 < SMP> don't feel like it. want to install Solaris 9 in vmware ;)
02:26 < SMP> first need to find out why I can't have more than 8 LVs active at the same time with DM/LVM2
02:35 < mistik1> 9\\
02:39 < SMP> your'e right. do you know anything about this?
02:40 < mnemoc> is that stupid limit official?
02:41 < SMP> I don't know. I just discovered it exists before I went to sleep
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08:31 < blindcoder> moin
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08:40 < MadTux> moin.
08:41 < blindcoder> moin moin
08:41 < MadTux> good day Blindy :)
08:41 < MadTux> how are you ?
08:42 < blindcoder> alive. and how's things in .cr?
08:42 < MadTux> rain.. rain .. and more rain
08:42 < MadTux> cold, foggy
08:42 < MadTux> lots of lightnings
08:42 < MadTux> looks like the end of the world..
08:42 < blindcoder> hmm... sounds like the weather we had here yesterday
08:43 < MadTux> well its been liek this for days here..
08:43 < blindcoder> urgs
08:43 < MadTux> even though i have to admit i like the weather thats way better
08:43 < blindcoder> why that?
08:43 < fake> stupid question: what does the number in create=errlist mean ?
08:43 < blindcoder> fake: packages that depend on this package
08:44 < MadTux> blindcoder: guess its the perfect example of the way i feel inside..
08:44 < MadTux> hello fake
08:44 < blindcoder> MadTux: I see... i can ack that
08:44 < blindcoder> MadTux: well, at least my laptop now has rock on it
08:44 < fake> ah, fine.
08:44 < MadTux> blindcoder: the funny thing here is that by this times we are supposed to be in summer..
08:44 < fake> 2 zeros ;)
08:45 < blindcoder> MadTux: we are supposed to have snow, but the sun is shining brightly
08:45 < MadTux> blindy congratz.. i need to get back home soon, so that i can send all the patches i have to submit
08:45 < MadTux> made lots of work on the alphga port this weekend, also corrected some stuff on the documentation 
08:45 < blindcoder> sweet
08:45 < MadTux> yeah :)
08:46 < MadTux> also have to see how did my full generic build went
08:46 < blindcoder> I'm running on minimal
08:47 < blindcoder> and now adding packages I need one by one
08:47 < MadTux> minimal with my last fixes?
08:47 < blindcoder> hmm... should be, yes
08:47 < MadTux> blindy hehe this weekend i also made a lot of work on minimal.. i reduces it a lot
08:47 < blindcoder> still it tried to install my winex_installer :)
08:48 < MadTux> well what i did now was add specific packages instead of includding the whole base target and then removing some
08:48 < blindcoder> :)
08:48 < MadTux> excellent
08:48 * fake phearing the speed of his new build machine
08:48 < blindcoder> fake: why?
08:49 < MadTux> I've been on my place at the beach.. its beenq uite helpfull to relax and had several brainstorms
08:49 < MadTux> fake: new? :) specs?
08:49 < fake> blindcoder: athlon xp 2600+ with 1 gig of ddr-333 ram. ph45t!
08:49 < blindcoder> I see
08:49 < MadTux> fake: will you overcloack it?
08:49 < MadTux> :)
08:49 < blindcoder> hmm... what it the name of the XFree-Autoconf-Tool?
08:50 < fake> overcloak? put an 'intel' sticker on it? ;)
08:50 < fake> X -configure
08:50 < MadTux> fake: no, real overcloking.. athlons are quite simple and nice to overclock :)
08:51 < fake> i am fine with it's speed by now
08:51 < MadTux> talking about laptops and intel, anyone played with Intel Centrino already?
08:51 * blindcoder 
08:51 < blindcoder> my laptop is one
08:51 < MadTux> fake: you can't deny that even if it is faster, you are always in need for speed ;-)
08:51 < MadTux> blindcoder: posser! how does it work so far?
08:52 < blindcoder> MadTux: fine using the linuxant wrapper
08:53 < MadTux> so is it actually worth the try? Intel and I got divorced since some time ago..
08:53 < blindcoder> I like the machine although it has neither serial nor PS/2 ports
08:54 < MadTux> well does it al least bring more than 2 USB's?
08:54 < MadTux> i mean to compensate the missing of serial and ps/2
08:56 < blindcoder> 4
08:56 < MadTux> guess thats fine then..
08:56 < blindcoder> 4 USB, IR, 1394, 3 cardreader, one PCMCIA and no floppy
08:57 < MadTux> well floppy is something i don't consider necesary anymore
08:57 * blindcoder does
08:57 < MadTux> what for?
08:57 < blindcoder> and I missed it several times already
08:58 < MadTux> well get a usb floppy..
08:58 < blindcoder> the times when you don't have network at hand
08:58 < MadTux> _or_ get a watch with usb storage (that would rock)
08:58 < blindcoder> the times when my dad comes round with a few disks he needs on his machine (no net, no floppy)
08:58 < blindcoder> I already have such a watch from LAKS
08:58 < blindcoder> they're crap
08:59 < MadTux> well doesn't ur father have usb's on his machine?
08:59 < MadTux> crap?!!?
08:59 < blindcoder> the USB-Connector is broken already and I haven't come round replacing it yet
08:59 < MadTux> why? please advice i was going to get me one for xmasts
08:59 < MadTux> mmm... suck.
09:00 < blindcoder> now I need to get startx running
09:00 < MadTux> on minimal ? :D
09:01 < blindcoder> yes
09:01 < blindcoder> why?
09:01 < MadTux> BTW i guess i will do some work on minimal+xfree sometime during the week.. even though i don't feel its really a preiority
09:01 < MadTux> just wondering :)
09:07 < blindcoder> okay, I'm off to "work" :)
09:07 < blindcoder> bbl
09:08 < MadTux> oyasumi nasai blindcoder
09:15 < netrunner> moin
09:18 < MadTux> hi netty
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10:57 < LocalHero> Hi all
10:57 < MadTux> Greetings Alex :)
11:00 < LocalHero> MadTux, hi whazzup?
11:01 < LocalHero> MadTux, no sync this weekend?
11:01 < MadTux> LocalHero: just arrived a couple of hours ago from the beach
11:01 < MadTux> LocalHero: will sync stuff later today :)
11:02 < MadTux> be back in a moment /me getting something to eat
11:07 < LocalHero> MadTux, oki :)
11:11 < MadTux> re
11:11 < MadTux> ;-)
11:40 * blindcoder back
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11:40 * blindcoder now having some sushi
11:40 < MadTux> blindcoder: give me some give me some!!!
11:40 < blindcoder> MadTux: no :P all mine!
11:40 < MadTux> you are cruel, selfish and evil :(
11:41 < MadTux> *sniff*
11:41 < blindcoder> thanks :)
11:41 < MadTux> :((
11:42 < MadTux> i want sushi!! ... its 4:45am here no jap places open.. arrggg!!!
11:44 < blindcoder> mozilla has more deps than Request Tracker does
11:45 < MadTux> uurrggss mail bomb @ rlml
11:51 < blindcoder> anyone here got experience with Request Tracker?
11:51 < MadTux> not me.
11:52 < blindcoder> too bad
11:53 < MadTux> If you would ahve shared ur sushi i could have had experience.
11:53 * blindcoder moves two Maki over to MadTux 
11:53 < MadTux> *grin*
11:53 < MadTux> good boy.
11:54 < MadTux> but still sorry i have no experience on this :/
11:54 < blindcoder> thought so >_<
11:54 < MadTux> yeah. what is it anyways?
11:54 < blindcoder> it's a TroubleTicket system which needs around 150 perl modules
11:55 < MadTux> whoa
11:55 < blindcoder> jo
11:55 < blindcoder> runs in mod_perl and looks really good
11:56 < blindcoder> had hoped someone has experience with it
11:57 < MadTux> guess i'll give it a try later when i am more.. awake :)
11:57 < blindcoder> www.bestpractical.com
11:58 < MadTux> bookmarked.. thanks blindy
11:58 < blindcoder> no problem
12:00 < MadTux> OMG ! rlml _still_ been mail bombed!
12:21 < rxr> re
12:22 < MadTux> wb sekhmet
12:22 < MadTux> i mean rxr*
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12:26 < MadTux> bbl
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12:29 < blindcoder> hm... usbmouse doesn't get started with rockplug
12:33 < rxr> started?
12:34 < blindcoder> yes, module hid.o doesn't get loaded --> no mouse
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12:57 < cchamilt> re
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14:14 < mnemoc> re
14:19 < cytrinox`> moin
14:20 < mnemoc> moin cytrinox` 
14:33 < netrunner> this alan guy sending bug reports should be introduced to scripts/Create-Errlist :)
14:35 < mnemoc> absolutly :)=
14:35 < mnemoc> rxr: ping
14:35 < blindcoder> WEE!
14:36 < blindcoder> My Pro Wireless/2100 now also works with ndiswrapper :D
14:36 < mnemoc> :D
14:37 < mnemoc> how much packets lost?
14:37 < mnemoc> how many*
14:42 < blindcoder> the network is stable now that I've moved the AP
14:43 * netrunner working on hostap package.
14:43 < netrunner> and bootdisk issue.
14:44 * blindcoder thinks about packaging ndiswrapper
14:45 < netrunner> blindcoder: add a stone module that add's the driver to ndiswrapper :)
14:45 < blindcoder> netrunner: sure
14:45 < blindcoder> it's a bit tricky right now
14:45 < blindcoder> bit I'd make it a rocknet module
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15:15 < rolla> re
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15:30 < daja77> re
15:31 < blindcoder> moin daja
15:31 < daja77> moin blindy
15:33 < mnemoc> moin blindcoder, daja77, rolla 
15:33 < daja77> hola mnemoc 
15:36 < mnemoc> buenos dias don daniel
15:36 < daja77> ;-)
15:42 < daja77> rxr: k. sorry that you've been pissed by this, hope we'll find a solution in two weeks
15:42 * rolla yawns
15:43 < daja77> wb rolla
15:46 < rolla> thanks
15:47 * daja77 thinks of yawning back next time ^^
15:48 < mnemoc> :)
15:49 < mnemoc> yawn is more like a "hey, i'm still alive" than a "hey, i have returned" 
15:49 < mnemoc> yaaaaaaaawn
15:52 < rolla> yup
15:52 < daja77> :))
15:52 < rolla> I am just thinking of lunch
15:52 < rolla> mmmmm thai food
15:52 < daja77> it is good to know that rolla is still alive :)
15:53 < mnemoc> alive and eating thai food
15:54 < daja77> thinking of it afaik
15:54 < mnemoc> 800-thaifood
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15:55 < daja77> hehe
15:55 * mnemoc wonders how much time can you live eating thaifood?
15:56 < mnemoc> more than eating mcdonalds
15:56 < daja77> asian food rocks
15:56 < rolla> true
15:57 * daja77 wondering if he should buy some today
15:58 < rolla> :)
15:58 < rolla> I had indian food last thursday
15:58 < daja77> that rocks too
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16:54 < rolla> bboy glic takes  along time to compile
17:00 < mnemoc> bboy?
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17:23 < mnemoc> *yawn*
17:23 < daja77> hehe
17:23 < mnemoc> :)
17:24 * mnemoc needs nutella... brb
17:26 < mnemoc> daja77: do you get the same errors that "Alan J. Wylie"?
17:27 < daja77> dunno, haven't read rlml today
17:27 < daja77> will do in the evening
17:27 < mnemoc> :)
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17:41 * daja77 of now, cu
17:43 < mnemoc> cu daja77 
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19:22 * blindcoder back
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20:03 < daja77> re
20:04 < rolla> re
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20:51 < A-Tui> hi
21:07 < mnemoc> re
21:11 < mnemoc> what a calm day on #rl
21:11 < A-Tui> it's monday :)
21:11 * daja77 was at a xbox-linux irc dev meeting the last hour
21:12 < daja77> hi A-Tui 
21:12 < A-Tui> hola daja77
21:12 < mnemoc> xbox-rock port?
21:12 < A-Tui> hola mnemoc
21:12 < daja77> mnemoc: i asked them if they want to come to clt2004 :))
21:12 < mnemoc> hola A-Tui, como estas?
21:12 < Aard> mnemoc: irc was writeonly for me since about friday. xmas sucks, pre-xmas sucks.
21:13 < A-Tui> bien mnemoc, algo cansado pero bien
21:13 < mnemoc> Aard: a very positive view
21:14 < A-Tui> xmas are good since in xmas i don't work
21:14 < A-Tui> well, are good for me
21:14 < Aard> mnemoc: hey, I didn't say `life sucks'. 
21:17 < mnemoc> sure, your view could have been worse
21:17 < mnemoc> daja77: and? will they go?
21:18 < daja77> yes they come
21:18 * daja77 happy
21:20 < mnemoc> daja77: any news on the rock's poster?
21:20 < daja77> we work on it this week i hope
21:21 < mnemoc> try to give a change to my sculping dwarf please :)
21:22 < daja77> hehe i actually dunno what she has in mind so far, we'll see
21:23 < mnemoc> a 'she' will pay or a 'she' will draw?
21:23 < daja77> draw
21:23 < daja77> paint whatever
21:24 < mnemoc> the artitics gift we don't have :)
21:24 < daja77> :)
21:24 < mnemoc> artistic*
21:25 < mnemoc> i'm very frustrated with that unexistant skill :(
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21:32 < daja77> why
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21:49 < mnemoc> i would love to draw
21:50 < snyke> ROFL: http://www.dnn-online.de/ratgeber/ratgeber_fotos/logo_doc_esden.gif
21:52 < daja77> hehe
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21:53 < mnemoc> what does it said in yellow?
21:53 < daja77> true crime stories
21:54 < mnemoc> o_O
21:55 < daja77> waaah 48 new mails on rlml
21:59 < mnemoc> Alan J. Wylie, mr. flooder
21:59 < mnemoc> is he on the channel?
22:00 < daja77> dunno
22:00 < mnemoc> i would like to see some logs but i don't wont to mail :)
22:03 < daja77> well i am doin no build atm, so i don't have these errors :D
22:03 < mnemoc> i onlt have hardware for small builds, then i never see x11/* errors :(
22:04 < daja77> doesn't look good atm
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22:47 < mnemoc> daja77: did u read my 'smart default kernel' mail? do u found it stupid too?
22:47 < daja77> subject?
22:48 < mnemoc> [rock-linux] [PATCH] smarter default kernel
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22:50 < daja77> well it would speed up some build tests
22:51 < mnemoc> but?
22:52 < daja77> but? i dunno, haven't seen this in action
22:53 < mnemoc> well you can O linux24 and select linux24 as default kernel  
22:53 < mnemoc> because you have X linux24-header
22:53 < daja77> true dat, you don't need a built kernel cos nothing is linked against it
22:53 < mnemoc> if you O linux26* linux26 will not appear
22:55 < mnemoc> linux26 takes 5 hours to build here
22:55 < daja77> huh, what machine?
22:55 < mnemoc> but i don't need to build it 3 times to test if some toarget builds with linux26 sources
22:56 < mnemoc> P2/350/384M
22:56 < mnemoc> ata33
22:56 < daja77> oh
22:57 < mnemoc> and that was a big improvement over my pmmx200/128/8GB :)
22:57 < daja77> sure
22:57 < mnemoc> can you give your aproval to rene? =)
22:59 < mnemoc> to add these small improvements to the scripts is as hard as to add the big fat features :
22:59 < mnemoc> :(
23:00 < mnemoc> or just mail, the good comments you said here :)
23:00 < daja77> ok
23:01 < mnemoc> muchas gracias danielito :)
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23:07 < daja77> done
23:07 < mnemoc> :D
23:09 < daja77> sorry only short mail, busy atm
23:09 < mnemoc> no problem
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23:37 < rxr> re
23:37 < mnemoc> wb rxr
23:37 < daja77> wb rxr
23:38 < mnemoc> i won :)
23:38 < daja77> nope
23:38 < rxr> mnemoc: is the discussion about the linux header seleciton patch?
23:38 < mnemoc> yep
23:38 < mnemoc> but not a discussion
23:39 < rxr> mnemoc: it is that hard for you to get the patch in because it has no real comment text in the mail - so I need to think about the correctness of the changes
23:40 < mnemoc> oh
23:40 < mnemoc> if i were more verbose....
23:41 * daja77 screams
23:41 < mnemoc> :D
23:41 < daja77> the final tuxracer patch is 372k ...
23:41 < mnemoc> ehm
23:41 < mnemoc> and removing contexts?
23:42 < daja77> a newly created configure and depcomp included *gnarf*
23:42 < mnemoc> lol
23:42 < daja77> i only changed a few lines ...
23:43 < mnemoc> rxr: what $body structure do you want for feature patches?
23:43 < mnemoc> $problem $idea $implementation ?
23:43 < mnemoc> or just $idea $implementation
23:45 < rxr> mnemoc: so short $problem and $idea would be nice - for non-trival changes some overview of the implementation speeds up my review
23:45 < mnemoc> is my current 'update patch' structure fine?
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23:57 < mnemoc> ehm
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