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--- Log opened Mon Dec 15 00:00:03 2003 --- Day changed Mon Dec 15 2003 00:00 < rxr> nope - I'm just joking and want to know what I should do with mine now ... 00:00 < rxr> yeah - iproute2 is a good candiate 00:00 < mnemoc> :) 00:00 < rxr> candidate even 00:01 < clifford> I still don't understand what you have driven to release a mine version - and then even without intensive testing! 00:02 < clifford> What's wrong with adding a bugfix patch to package/base/mine/ as usual ???? 00:02 < clifford> I can understand that it would be better to make a new release of mine earlier - but if there is no time to test it, it's a no-do! 00:02 < rxr> at some point there are too many hotfixes 00:02 < clifford> .. and you could have asked me first. 00:03 < rxr> clifford: I asked you a month ago 00:03 < rxr> I tested the area I changed 00:03 < rxr> I not yet discovered a project where it is usual to let untested and unfinished code lying in a version control system for two month 00:04 < rxr> when you apply something I take it as tested 00:04 < clifford> so why didn't you just release the part you have changed? 00:04 < rxr> and when there are no changes for two months as - used and not issues discovered yet 00:04 < clifford> linux kernel, gcc, binutils - just a name a few. 00:05 < rxr> I'm already unhappy with ROCK development - when you bug me furher you have one ROCKy less 00:05 < rxr> cu late 00:05 < rxr> r 00:05 < daja77> cu rxr 00:05 < mnemoc> cu rxr 00:06 -!- clifford [~clifford@p50802E02.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ("Client exiting") 00:06 -!- echalon [~echalon@bgp477909bgs.summit01.nj.comcast.net] has left #rocklinux () 00:06 < mnemoc> ehm 00:10 < mnemoc> hi daja77 00:10 < daja77> hi mnemoc 00:10 < daja77> channel fighting sucks 00:11 < mnemoc> tr [a-z] [A-Z] 00:11 < daja77> hm? 00:12 < mnemoc> rewrite in uppercase :) 00:12 < daja77> ah k. :)) 00:12 < mnemoc> i never thought rxr was so stressed 00:12 < daja77> he is 00:13 < daja77> i dunno why clifford was that much angry 00:13 < mnemoc> happy rock meeting 00:13 < daja77> yeah 00:14 < mnemoc> "shit happens. fix it and try to don't do it again" 00:15 * blindcoder happy now that his laptop with centrino wlan works and off to bed 00:15 < blindcoder> good night! 00:16 < daja77> n8 blindcoder 00:16 < mnemoc> https://www.lyricsbox.com/disney-lyrics-hakuna-matata-9fzxz8p.html 00:16 < daja77> O_o 00:18 * daja77 off to bed now 00:18 < mnemoc> Hakuna Matata daja77 00:18 < daja77> i know 00:19 < mnemoc> sleep well 00:19 < daja77> thx, cu 00:25 < rxr> hm - not really motivaed for the CCC anymore 00:25 < mnemoc> when is it? 00:26 < rxr> 27-19 00:26 < rxr> 29 even 00:27 < mnemoc> rxr: sorry fot opening my mouth, when it started i didn't feel the bad aura around :| 00:28 < mnemoc> 5 days?? god 00:28 < rxr> nah from 27-29 00:28 < rxr> some more days 00:28 < mnemoc> uff 00:28 < mnemoc> :) 00:30 < mnemoc> you will be there with a desktop-{x86,ppc}-2.0.0 fsck the other archs for some days 00:37 -!- _^izaN^_ [~TuX@148.Red-81-32-45.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:39 < rxr> so maybe mine builds 00:39 < rxr> can someone test HEAD 00:39 < rxr> I'm somehow not motivated for such crap 00:40 < _^izaN^_> hi ;D 00:40 < rxr> hi _^izaN^_ 00:42 < rxr> Btw: 00:42 < rxr> 00:13 < mnemoc> i never thought rxr was so stressed 00:42 < rxr> 00:13 < daja77> he is 00:42 < rxr> ^- I'm not stessed - I just fill pissed ... 00:43 < mnemoc> stress lead you to get pissed faster 00:43 < mnemoc> but i don't know cliff 00:44 * mnemoc co-ing mine 00:45 < rxr> mnemoc: but I really tell you with a smile on my face that I'm not stressed 00:45 < mnemoc> good to know :) 00:45 < mnemoc> Hakuna Matata rxr 00:45 < rxr> which means? 00:46 < mnemoc> never watched the lion king? 00:46 < mnemoc> should i apply rock's patches to mine's HEAD? 00:47 < rxr> which rock patches on what mine's HEAD? 00:49 < mnemoc> sv co svn://svn.rl-con.de/mine/trunk mine-trunk; cd mine-trunk; for x in rock-trunk/pacakge/base/mine/*.patch; do patch -p1 < $x; done 00:49 < rxr> nah 00:49 < mnemoc> clean head 00:49 < rxr> mine has not changed - I just removed the tags 00:49 < rxr> in mine everything is up-to-date and fixed 00:49 -!- _^izaN^_ [~TuX@148.Red-81-32-45.pooles.rima-tde.net] has quit ("• IRcap [7.51] • https://www.ircap.net •") 00:49 < mnemoc> 'mine' is a confusing name 00:50 < rxr> but in ROCK I restored the hotfixes, static fixes and added the var-adm-handling parch 00:50 < rxr> patch even 00:50 < rxr> as our dictator errr ober-guru requested 00:50 < mnemoc> i'll code gem2 and dwarf one of these days 00:52 < rxr> mnemoc: how far is iproute-the-other-new-different-one update? 00:53 < mnemoc> it doesnt' include metric thing 00:53 < mnemoc> i can easly add the keyword support, but can't do it work with my current knowledge 00:55 < rxr> I meant just updating our current package to it 00:55 < rxr> I can workout my metric problem then 00:56 < mnemoc> i was playing with CLIP, but that can wait... you will have your iproute2 patch in the morning 00:56 < mnemoc> (your morning) 00:56 < rxr> I think I should branch -rc4 before ... 00:57 < mnemoc> me too 01:06 * rxr wonders where I would be today if I would have continued my dRock fork ... 01:07 < praenti> hi 01:07 < praenti> rxr: i dont know 01:08 < mnemoc> rxr: you would be working on a fork of a dead project 01:08 < rxr> mnemoc: why dead? 01:09 < mnemoc> clifford don't have the time to mantain it 01:09 < praenti> the problem here i think is a missing test team. everyone of us test parts of rock but nobody does it with a structure... 01:10 < mnemoc> additionaly rene has too many different jobs on ROCK 01:11 < praenti> we need a team of testers who are not as deep as we are in rock to see the users problems and to generate new ideas, perhaps 01:11 < praenti> and thats a point which frustrates me sometimes 01:11 < rxr> praenti: we "just" need for users and (not that important) developers 01:12 < rxr> users could catch the tiny bugs when they are introduced - and not days(++) later 01:12 < praenti> i also think so 01:13 < praenti> cause a user tries, and doesnt work, so post to the developers 01:13 < praenti> ok. and then the developers must be fast enough to kill the bug 01:14 < praenti> difficult problem... 01:14 < mnemoc> split de ML can be a good start, _users_ run away from our patch floods :) 01:14 < rxr> yeah - but thst is not a problem in ROCK - when we locate a bug it is fixed JIT (Just In Time) 01:14 < rxr> mnemoc: tell this the over guru - I tell this for 3/4 of a year now ... 01:15 < rxr> a 2.0.0 is also a good start - should be in a nice shapre now 01:17 < praenti> hmm. i was originally against that but have not discussed with the persons, because i'm still thinking that this can also be a very big change to get a greater user community 01:19 < praenti> so it is little difficult. the point is the that the contact between developer and user will decrease i think 01:19 < praenti> but perhaps we need 01:19 < praenti> that 01:19 < mnemoc> two things: what if you open a list for patches (+ the list for changelog) and tell the common flooders to use it? 01:20 < mnemoc> 2. what archs will we choose for the first stable? 01:20 < praenti> mnemoc: hmm. that is a point. anybody thought about that? 01:21 < praenti> argl. i hate nights where i cannot find sleep... 01:21 * praenti is tired... grml 01:22 < mnemoc> as mike said, go to code bitch :) 01:23 < praenti> ... 01:24 < mnemoc> he said that to me at least :( 01:24 < praenti> tztztz 01:25 < praenti> but bitch? does that word really fit... :-) 01:25 < mnemoc> btw, a newsgroup can be a great improvement 01:25 < praenti> btw. have we a female person in the team? i dont think so 01:26 < mnemoc> owl :| 01:26 < praenti> is owl still in the team? 01:26 < rxr> praenti: yes - most did not like this 01:26 < rxr> praenti: this list seperation was exactly my proposal 01:27 < rxr> praenti: nope 01:27 < rxr> praenti: the other was jocelyn 01:27 < mnemoc> let's do it (unofficially) 01:27 < rxr> mnemoc: the list split ? 01:27 < praenti> rxr: thats strange. a separation between dev and users is not good i think. but a separation between patch and talk is ok 01:27 < mnemoc> owl still in the channel 01:27 < praenti> mnemoc: yes. but i thought she want to fork 01:27 < mnemoc> no separate users and dev, separate patchs and talk 01:27 < rxr> mnemoc: yes - but just haning around - she often said she is no longer a ROCKy ... 01:28 < mnemoc> she claims to be nothing at all 01:28 < rxr> mnemoc: others claimed that would result in undiscussed patches 01:28 < rxr> mnemoc: but I support the idea 01:28 < rxr> praenti: but Susanne wants to do a AfterStep package ... 01:28 < mnemoc> and setting reply-to of that list to the 'talk-list'? 01:28 < praenti> rxr: i dont think so. if a developers does not look into the patch list then he is no developer for me 01:29 < praenti> rxr: who is Susanne? 01:29 < rxr> praenti: you tell this to the wrong person 01:29 < rxr> praenti: aehm - my new girlfriend ,-) 01:29 < mnemoc> we need to DO something 01:29 < rxr> praenti: I told I'm not stressed ;-) 01:30 < mnemoc> just pissed ;) 01:30 < praenti> rxr: i know. but i understand me in that position that i also look into the patches of others because my package could be affected by any change 01:30 < mnemoc> can't youi subscribe to the patch list? 01:30 < praenti> rxr: uii lucky beggar 01:30 < rxr> I think it should be a normal list 01:31 < rxr> praenti: mnemoc: go and propose it on rock-linux 01:32 < mnemoc> at least the geeks i know feels more confortable with a newsgroup, ML is good for users. 01:32 < praenti> rxr: i dont like that discussed on the list. the discussion can be very emotional i think and because of that i prefer that discussion on 20c3 01:32 < rxr> hm - lurker (the list searcher) does not seem to work 01:32 < rxr> I'm not a newsgroup fan 01:33 < mnemoc> rxr: i said that before on channel and mail cliff 3 days ago 01:33 < rxr> I prefer normal mailing lists 01:33 < praenti> mnemoc: you can do a combination - i have seen some mailman lists which are newsgroup and ML 01:33 < praenti> look at the cups MLs 01:34 < mnemoc> maybe a gmane.rocklinux.org ;-) 01:34 * praenti also needs a girlfriend. 01:34 < praenti> ... 01:34 < praenti> really frustrating 01:35 < rxr> I also did not had a girlfirend for a long time 01:36 < rxr> praenti: I guess you even had more girlfriends in your life then I had ... ;-) 01:36 < praenti> rxr: are you shure? 01:36 < praenti> rxr: it was only one, 01:36 < praenti> :-) 01:36 < mnemoc> ehm 01:36 < mnemoc> i marry the second ;) 01:37 < praenti> *g* 01:37 < praenti> mnemoc: you are a fast guy, are you? 01:37 < mnemoc> i'm a decided one :D 01:37 < rxr> praenti: oh - but then the difference is at least not very high ... ;-) 01:38 < praenti> rxr: hä? 01:38 < praenti> one more? 01:38 < rxr> praenti: well two more - the third - and hopefully the last decision ;-) 01:39 * praenti hoping for rxr 01:39 < praenti> but thats life... "don't worry, be happy" *g* 01:39 < rxr> and /me hoping for praenti 01:41 < mnemoc> rxr: will your last decition be with or without papers? 01:41 < praenti> papers? what papers? 01:41 < mnemoc> (marriage) 01:42 < rxr> mnemoc: well - it might end up there in some years ... ;-) 01:42 < praenti> ahh. thought you mean a contract 01:42 < mnemoc> let it flow :) 01:42 < rxr> mnemoc: I did not wanted to express s.th. else then flow ,-) 01:43 < praenti> *g*. ok i will now try to find some sleep. gn8 01:43 < mnemoc> gn8 praenti 01:43 < mnemoc> good luck too :) 01:43 * praenti hunting for some sleep 01:44 < rxr> praenti: n8 01:46 < mnemoc> rxr, i thought you had officialy changed your signature to that slave thing :) 01:47 < rxr> nope 01:48 < mnemoc> will rockplug set xfree86? 01:48 < rxr> what aspect of xfree86 should it set? 01:48 < mnemoc> video and resolution 01:48 < mnemoc> (driver) 01:49 < rxr> no - ROCK Plug should be for the basic config 01:49 * mnemoc thinking in a livecd 01:49 < rxr> XFree86 has it's own new auto config 01:49 < rxr> (I have not yet tried this) 01:49 < mnemoc> yes? wow 01:49 < rxr> since 4.3.99.15 or so 01:49 < rxr> (they introduced the infrastructure work before and arround .15 it got into some final shape and started to work) 01:50 < rxr> ROCK Plug is for basic hardware configuration - mostly kernel related 01:50 < mnemoc> _kiss_ :) 01:55 -!- ierk [~bg@shell.blacknet.de] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01:59 < rxr> mnemoc: i'll commit a ROCK Net Stone module addition in soem seconds 01:59 < rxr> I merged back the static hostname, domainname and DNS-Server settings 02:00 < rxr> but I have not yet an idea how to set the domainname in /etc/hosts since we do not have a static IP address in the config anymroe ... 02:00 < rxr> maybe you can take a look 02:00 < rxr> it might in general a good idea when you try rock net before I tag -rc4 02:02 < rxr> n8 all 02:07 < mnemoc> re 02:09 < mnemoc> i'm finishing a minibuild now, wmware is ready for testing :) 02:20 * SMP looks tired 02:20 < mnemoc> try sleeping :) 02:21 < SMP> I just got up ;) 02:21 < SMP> after 19hrs 02:22 < mnemoc> : 02:22 < mnemoc> o 02:22 < mnemoc> :o 02:22 < mnemoc> go to bed again :) 02:23 < SMP> don't feel like it. want to install Solaris 9 in vmware ;) 02:26 < SMP> first need to find out why I can't have more than 8 LVs active at the same time with DM/LVM2 02:35 < mistik1> 9\\ 02:39 < SMP> your'e right. do you know anything about this? 02:40 < mnemoc> is that stupid limit official? 02:41 < SMP> I don't know. I just discovered it exists before I went to sleep 04:31 -!- cytrinox` [~dj-nail@p213.54.208.136.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 04:32 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-196.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:39 -!- cytrinox [~dj-nail@p213.54.202.26.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04:54 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-179.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:50 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M473P031.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 06:52 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M473P031.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Client Quit) 07:06 -!- nookie__ [~nookie@M271P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07:32 -!- ghostof [~zen@user-2ivemni.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #rocklinux 07:38 -!- neitzsche [~zen@user-2inigjm.dialup.mindspring.com] has quit (Connection timed out) 07:48 -!- dsoul [darksoul@www.offspring.art.pl] has joined #rocklinux 08:31 < blindcoder> moin 08:40 -!- MadTux [~mike@ip140-62.ct.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 08:40 < MadTux> moin. 08:41 < blindcoder> moin moin 08:41 < MadTux> good day Blindy :) 08:41 < MadTux> how are you ? 08:42 < blindcoder> alive. and how's things in .cr? 08:42 < MadTux> rain.. rain .. and more rain 08:42 < MadTux> cold, foggy 08:42 < MadTux> lots of lightnings 08:42 < MadTux> looks like the end of the world.. 08:42 < blindcoder> hmm... sounds like the weather we had here yesterday 08:43 < MadTux> well its been liek this for days here.. 08:43 < blindcoder> urgs 08:43 < MadTux> even though i have to admit i like the weather thats way better 08:43 < blindcoder> why that? 08:43 < fake> stupid question: what does the number in create=errlist mean ? 08:43 < blindcoder> fake: packages that depend on this package 08:44 < MadTux> blindcoder: guess its the perfect example of the way i feel inside.. 08:44 < MadTux> hello fake 08:44 < blindcoder> MadTux: I see... i can ack that 08:44 < blindcoder> MadTux: well, at least my laptop now has rock on it 08:44 < fake> ah, fine. 08:44 < MadTux> blindcoder: the funny thing here is that by this times we are supposed to be in summer.. 08:44 < fake> 2 zeros ;) 08:45 < blindcoder> MadTux: we are supposed to have snow, but the sun is shining brightly 08:45 < MadTux> blindy congratz.. i need to get back home soon, so that i can send all the patches i have to submit 08:45 < MadTux> made lots of work on the alphga port this weekend, also corrected some stuff on the documentation 08:45 < blindcoder> sweet 08:45 < MadTux> yeah :) 08:46 < MadTux> also have to see how did my full generic build went 08:46 < blindcoder> I'm running on minimal 08:47 < blindcoder> and now adding packages I need one by one 08:47 < MadTux> minimal with my last fixes? 08:47 < blindcoder> hmm... should be, yes 08:47 < MadTux> blindy hehe this weekend i also made a lot of work on minimal.. i reduces it a lot 08:47 < blindcoder> still it tried to install my winex_installer :) 08:48 < MadTux> well what i did now was add specific packages instead of includding the whole base target and then removing some 08:48 < blindcoder> :) 08:48 < MadTux> excellent 08:48 * fake phearing the speed of his new build machine 08:48 < blindcoder> fake: why? 08:49 < MadTux> I've been on my place at the beach.. its beenq uite helpfull to relax and had several brainstorms 08:49 < MadTux> fake: new? :) specs? 08:49 < fake> blindcoder: athlon xp 2600+ with 1 gig of ddr-333 ram. ph45t! 08:49 < blindcoder> I see 08:49 < MadTux> fake: will you overcloack it? 08:49 < MadTux> :) 08:49 < blindcoder> hmm... what it the name of the XFree-Autoconf-Tool? 08:50 < fake> overcloak? put an 'intel' sticker on it? ;) 08:50 < fake> X -configure 08:50 < MadTux> fake: no, real overcloking.. athlons are quite simple and nice to overclock :) 08:51 < fake> i am fine with it's speed by now 08:51 < MadTux> talking about laptops and intel, anyone played with Intel Centrino already? 08:51 * blindcoder 08:51 < blindcoder> my laptop is one 08:51 < MadTux> fake: you can't deny that even if it is faster, you are always in need for speed ;-) 08:51 < MadTux> blindcoder: posser! how does it work so far? 08:52 < blindcoder> MadTux: fine using the linuxant wrapper 08:53 < MadTux> so is it actually worth the try? Intel and I got divorced since some time ago.. 08:53 < blindcoder> I like the machine although it has neither serial nor PS/2 ports 08:54 < MadTux> well does it al least bring more than 2 USB's? 08:54 < MadTux> i mean to compensate the missing of serial and ps/2 08:56 < blindcoder> 4 08:56 < MadTux> guess thats fine then.. 08:56 < blindcoder> 4 USB, IR, 1394, 3 cardreader, one PCMCIA and no floppy 08:57 < MadTux> well floppy is something i don't consider necesary anymore 08:57 * blindcoder does 08:57 < MadTux> what for? 08:57 < blindcoder> and I missed it several times already 08:58 < MadTux> well get a usb floppy.. 08:58 < blindcoder> the times when you don't have network at hand 08:58 < MadTux> _or_ get a watch with usb storage (that would rock) 08:58 < blindcoder> the times when my dad comes round with a few disks he needs on his machine (no net, no floppy) 08:58 < blindcoder> I already have such a watch from LAKS 08:58 < blindcoder> they're crap 08:59 < MadTux> well doesn't ur father have usb's on his machine? 08:59 < MadTux> crap?!!? 08:59 < blindcoder> the USB-Connector is broken already and I haven't come round replacing it yet 08:59 < MadTux> why? please advice i was going to get me one for xmasts 08:59 < MadTux> mmm... suck. 09:00 < blindcoder> now I need to get startx running 09:00 < MadTux> on minimal ? :D 09:01 < blindcoder> yes 09:01 < blindcoder> why? 09:01 < MadTux> BTW i guess i will do some work on minimal+xfree sometime during the week.. even though i don't feel its really a preiority 09:01 < MadTux> just wondering :) 09:07 < blindcoder> okay, I'm off to "work" :) 09:07 < blindcoder> bbl 09:08 < MadTux> oyasumi nasai blindcoder 09:15 < netrunner> moin 09:18 < MadTux> hi netty 09:45 -!- ghostof [~zen@user-2ivemni.dialup.mindspring.com] has quit (Connection timed out) 10:41 -!- erdal [~basererda@195.174.168.23] has joined #rocklinux 10:42 -!- erdal [~basererda@195.174.168.23] has left #rocklinux () 10:57 -!- LocalHero [LocalHero@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has joined #rocklinux 10:57 < LocalHero> Hi all 10:57 < MadTux> Greetings Alex :) 11:00 < LocalHero> MadTux, hi whazzup? 11:01 < LocalHero> MadTux, no sync this weekend? 11:01 < MadTux> LocalHero: just arrived a couple of hours ago from the beach 11:01 < MadTux> LocalHero: will sync stuff later today :) 11:02 < MadTux> be back in a moment /me getting something to eat 11:07 < LocalHero> MadTux, oki :) 11:11 < MadTux> re 11:11 < MadTux> ;-) 11:40 * blindcoder back 11:40 -!- LocalHero [LocalHero@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has quit () 11:40 * blindcoder now having some sushi 11:40 < MadTux> blindcoder: give me some give me some!!! 11:40 < blindcoder> MadTux: no :P all mine! 11:40 < MadTux> you are cruel, selfish and evil :( 11:41 < MadTux> *sniff* 11:41 < blindcoder> thanks :) 11:41 < MadTux> :(( 11:42 < MadTux> i want sushi!! ... its 4:45am here no jap places open.. arrggg!!! 11:44 < blindcoder> mozilla has more deps than Request Tracker does 11:45 < MadTux> uurrggss mail bomb @ rlml 11:51 < blindcoder> anyone here got experience with Request Tracker? 11:51 < MadTux> not me. 11:52 < blindcoder> too bad 11:53 < MadTux> If you would ahve shared ur sushi i could have had experience. 11:53 * blindcoder moves two Maki over to MadTux 11:53 < MadTux> *grin* 11:53 < MadTux> good boy. 11:54 < MadTux> but still sorry i have no experience on this :/ 11:54 < blindcoder> thought so >_< 11:54 < MadTux> yeah. what is it anyways? 11:54 < blindcoder> it's a TroubleTicket system which needs around 150 perl modules 11:55 < MadTux> whoa 11:55 < blindcoder> jo 11:55 < blindcoder> runs in mod_perl and looks really good 11:56 < blindcoder> had hoped someone has experience with it 11:57 < MadTux> guess i'll give it a try later when i am more.. awake :) 11:57 < blindcoder> www.bestpractical.com 11:58 < MadTux> bookmarked.. thanks blindy 11:58 < blindcoder> no problem 12:00 < MadTux> OMG ! rlml _still_ been mail bombed! 12:21 < rxr> re 12:22 < MadTux> wb sekhmet 12:22 < MadTux> i mean rxr* 12:22 -!- kasc [~kasc@dsl-082-082-080-169.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:26 < MadTux> bbl 12:26 -!- MadTux [~mike@ip140-62.ct.co.cr] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 12:29 < blindcoder> hm... usbmouse doesn't get started with rockplug 12:33 < rxr> started? 12:34 < blindcoder> yes, module hid.o doesn't get loaded --> no mouse 12:51 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD9E4F592.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:51 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p50801310.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Nick collision from services.) 12:51 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 12:57 < cchamilt> re 13:17 -!- k3t_ is now known as trekkie3k 14:14 < mnemoc> re 14:19 < cytrinox`> moin 14:20 < mnemoc> moin cytrinox` 14:33 < netrunner> this alan guy sending bug reports should be introduced to scripts/Create-Errlist :) 14:35 < mnemoc> absolutly :)= 14:35 < mnemoc> rxr: ping 14:35 < blindcoder> WEE! 14:36 < blindcoder> My Pro Wireless/2100 now also works with ndiswrapper :D 14:36 < mnemoc> :D 14:37 < mnemoc> how much packets lost? 14:37 < mnemoc> how many* 14:42 < blindcoder> the network is stable now that I've moved the AP 14:43 * netrunner working on hostap package. 14:43 < netrunner> and bootdisk issue. 14:44 * blindcoder thinks about packaging ndiswrapper 14:45 < netrunner> blindcoder: add a stone module that add's the driver to ndiswrapper :) 14:45 < blindcoder> netrunner: sure 14:45 < blindcoder> it's a bit tricky right now 14:45 < blindcoder> bit I'd make it a rocknet module 15:09 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@p50802821.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:15 < rolla> re 15:17 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p50802E02.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 15:30 < daja77> re 15:31 < blindcoder> moin daja 15:31 < daja77> moin blindy 15:33 < mnemoc> moin blindcoder, daja77, rolla 15:33 < daja77> hola mnemoc 15:36 < mnemoc> buenos dias don daniel 15:36 < daja77> ;-) 15:42 < daja77> rxr: k. sorry that you've been pissed by this, hope we'll find a solution in two weeks 15:42 * rolla yawns 15:43 < daja77> wb rolla 15:46 < rolla> thanks 15:47 * daja77 thinks of yawning back next time ^^ 15:48 < mnemoc> :) 15:49 < mnemoc> yawn is more like a "hey, i'm still alive" than a "hey, i have returned" 15:49 < mnemoc> yaaaaaaaawn 15:52 < rolla> yup 15:52 < daja77> :)) 15:52 < rolla> I am just thinking of lunch 15:52 < rolla> mmmmm thai food 15:52 < daja77> it is good to know that rolla is still alive :) 15:53 < mnemoc> alive and eating thai food 15:54 < daja77> thinking of it afaik 15:54 < mnemoc> 800-thaifood 15:55 -!- sekhmet [~pez@adsl-68-78-232-235.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net] has quit ("problems") 15:55 < daja77> hehe 15:55 * mnemoc wonders how much time can you live eating thaifood? 15:56 < mnemoc> more than eating mcdonalds 15:56 < daja77> asian food rocks 15:56 < rolla> true 15:57 * daja77 wondering if he should buy some today 15:58 < rolla> :) 15:58 < rolla> I had indian food last thursday 15:58 < daja77> that rocks too 15:59 -!- sekhmet [~pez@adsl-68-78-232-235.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:06 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 16:16 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: rxr 16:16 -!- Netsplit over, joins: rxr 16:54 < rolla> bboy glic takes along time to compile 17:00 < mnemoc> bboy? 17:12 -!- k3t_ [k3t@pD90056E4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:18 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD9502DD9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 17:23 < mnemoc> *yawn* 17:23 < daja77> hehe 17:23 < mnemoc> :) 17:24 * mnemoc needs nutella... brb 17:26 < mnemoc> daja77: do you get the same errors that "Alan J. Wylie"? 17:27 < daja77> dunno, haven't read rlml today 17:27 < daja77> will do in the evening 17:27 < mnemoc> :) 17:28 -!- aktnot [ident@181.80-202-66.nextgentel.com] has joined #rocklinux 17:29 -!- aktnot [ident@181.80-202-66.nextgentel.com] has quit (Client Quit) 17:41 * daja77 of now, cu 17:43 < mnemoc> cu daja77 19:10 -!- batok [~chatzilla@200.56.185.8] has joined #rocklinux 19:18 -!- dsoul [darksoul@www.offspring.art.pl] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 19:22 * blindcoder back 19:32 -!- amino [asd123@dsl-213-023-024-034.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:52 -!- dsoul [darksoul@pingu.ii.uj.edu.pl] has joined #rocklinux 19:54 * blindcoder gone 20:03 < daja77> re 20:04 < rolla> re 20:13 -!- amino [asd123@dsl-213-023-024-034.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Client Quit) 20:15 -!- neitzsche [~zen@user-2inigst.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #rocklinux 20:16 -!- batok [~chatzilla@200.56.185.8] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.36 [Mozilla rv:1.5/0]") 20:51 -!- A-Tui [~aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 20:51 < A-Tui> hi 21:07 < mnemoc> re 21:11 < mnemoc> what a calm day on #rl 21:11 < A-Tui> it's monday :) 21:11 * daja77 was at a xbox-linux irc dev meeting the last hour 21:12 < daja77> hi A-Tui 21:12 < A-Tui> hola daja77 21:12 < mnemoc> xbox-rock port? 21:12 < A-Tui> hola mnemoc 21:12 < daja77> mnemoc: i asked them if they want to come to clt2004 :)) 21:12 < mnemoc> hola A-Tui, como estas? 21:12 < Aard> mnemoc: irc was writeonly for me since about friday. xmas sucks, pre-xmas sucks. 21:13 < A-Tui> bien mnemoc, algo cansado pero bien 21:13 < mnemoc> Aard: a very positive view 21:14 < A-Tui> xmas are good since in xmas i don't work 21:14 < A-Tui> well, are good for me 21:14 < Aard> mnemoc: hey, I didn't say `life sucks'. 21:17 < mnemoc> sure, your view could have been worse 21:17 < mnemoc> daja77: and? will they go? 21:18 < daja77> yes they come 21:18 * daja77 happy 21:20 < mnemoc> daja77: any news on the rock's poster? 21:20 < daja77> we work on it this week i hope 21:21 < mnemoc> try to give a change to my sculping dwarf please :) 21:22 < daja77> hehe i actually dunno what she has in mind so far, we'll see 21:23 < mnemoc> a 'she' will pay or a 'she' will draw? 21:23 < daja77> draw 21:23 < daja77> paint whatever 21:24 < mnemoc> the artitics gift we don't have :) 21:24 < daja77> :) 21:24 < mnemoc> artistic* 21:25 < mnemoc> i'm very frustrated with that unexistant skill :( 21:28 -!- neitzsche [~zen@user-2inigst.dialup.mindspring.com] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 21:32 < daja77> why 21:41 -!- neitzsche [~zen@user-2ivelr5.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #rocklinux 21:49 < mnemoc> i would love to draw 21:50 < snyke> ROFL: https://www.dnn-online.de/ratgeber/ratgeber_fotos/logo_doc_esden.gif 21:52 < daja77> hehe 21:53 -!- nookie [~nookie@M279P001.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 21:53 < mnemoc> what does it said in yellow? 21:53 < daja77> true crime stories 21:54 < mnemoc> o_O 21:55 < daja77> waaah 48 new mails on rlml 21:59 < mnemoc> Alan J. Wylie, mr. flooder 21:59 < mnemoc> is he on the channel? 22:00 < daja77> dunno 22:00 < mnemoc> i would like to see some logs but i don't wont to mail :) 22:03 < daja77> well i am doin no build atm, so i don't have these errors :D 22:03 < mnemoc> i onlt have hardware for small builds, then i never see x11/* errors :( 22:04 < daja77> doesn't look good atm 22:10 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-196.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 22:10 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-196.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:47 < mnemoc> daja77: did u read my 'smart default kernel' mail? do u found it stupid too? 22:47 < daja77> subject? 22:48 < mnemoc> [rock-linux] [PATCH] smarter default kernel 22:49 -!- neitzsche [~zen@user-2ivelr5.dialup.mindspring.com] has quit ("But I saved money on car insurance by switching to linux.") 22:49 -!- neitzsche [~zen@user-2ivelr5.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #rocklinux 22:50 < daja77> well it would speed up some build tests 22:51 < mnemoc> but? 22:52 < daja77> but? i dunno, haven't seen this in action 22:53 < mnemoc> well you can O linux24 and select linux24 as default kernel 22:53 < mnemoc> because you have X linux24-header 22:53 < daja77> true dat, you don't need a built kernel cos nothing is linked against it 22:53 < mnemoc> if you O linux26* linux26 will not appear 22:55 < mnemoc> linux26 takes 5 hours to build here 22:55 < daja77> huh, what machine? 22:55 < mnemoc> but i don't need to build it 3 times to test if some toarget builds with linux26 sources 22:56 < mnemoc> P2/350/384M 22:56 < mnemoc> ata33 22:56 < daja77> oh 22:57 < mnemoc> and that was a big improvement over my pmmx200/128/8GB :) 22:57 < daja77> sure 22:57 < mnemoc> can you give your aproval to rene? =) 22:59 < mnemoc> to add these small improvements to the scripts is as hard as to add the big fat features : 22:59 < mnemoc> :( 23:00 < mnemoc> or just mail, the good comments you said here :) 23:00 < daja77> ok 23:01 < mnemoc> muchas gracias danielito :) 23:06 -!- neitzsche [~zen@user-2ivelr5.dialup.mindspring.com] has quit (Operation timed out) 23:07 < daja77> done 23:07 < mnemoc> :D 23:09 < daja77> sorry only short mail, busy atm 23:09 < mnemoc> no problem 23:12 -!- k3t_ [k3t@pD90056E4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("ze űda brí-tenkoR") 23:13 -!- dsoul [darksoul@pingu.ii.uj.edu.pl] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23:21 -!- A-Tui [~aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("Satanás, el infierno es demasiado dulce!") 23:37 < rxr> re 23:37 < mnemoc> wb rxr 23:37 < daja77> wb rxr 23:38 < mnemoc> i won :) 23:38 < daja77> nope 23:38 < rxr> mnemoc: is the discussion about the linux header seleciton patch? 23:38 < mnemoc> yep 23:38 < mnemoc> but not a discussion 23:39 < rxr> mnemoc: it is that hard for you to get the patch in because it has no real comment text in the mail - so I need to think about the correctness of the changes 23:40 < mnemoc> oh 23:40 < mnemoc> if i were more verbose.... 23:41 * daja77 screams 23:41 < mnemoc> :D 23:41 < daja77> the final tuxracer patch is 372k ... 23:41 < mnemoc> ehm 23:41 < mnemoc> and removing contexts? 23:42 < daja77> a newly created configure and depcomp included *gnarf* 23:42 < mnemoc> lol 23:42 < daja77> i only changed a few lines ... 23:43 < mnemoc> rxr: what $body structure do you want for feature patches? 23:43 < mnemoc> $problem $idea $implementation ? 23:43 < mnemoc> or just $idea $implementation 23:45 < rxr> mnemoc: so short $problem and $idea would be nice - for non-trival changes some overview of the implementation speeds up my review 23:45 < mnemoc> is my current 'update patch' structure fine? 23:54 -!- esden_ [~weasel@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has left #rocklinux () 23:55 -!- esden_ [~weasel@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 23:55 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now - https://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html 23:55 -!- Topic set by ChanServ [Tue Sep 2 17:34:51 2003] 23:55 (Users #rocklinux) 23:55 [ [anders] ] [ daja77] [ kasc ] [ netcrow ] [ rolla ] 23:55 [ Aard ] [ esden_] [ maze_fan ] [ netrunner] [ rxr ] 23:55 [ blindcoder] [ fake ] [ mistik1 ] [ nookie ] [ sekhmet] 23:55 [ cchamilt ] [ huebi ] [ mnemoc ] [ owl ] [ SMP ] 23:55 [ cytrinox` ] [ ija ] [ Nebukadneza] [ praenti ] [ snyke ] 23:55 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 25 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 25 normal] 23:55 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Mon Aug 4 00:11:35 2003 23:55 -!- Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 1 secs --- Log closed Mon Dec 15 23:56:11 2003 --- Log opened Mon Dec 15 23:56:20 2003 23:56 -!- esden [~weasel@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 23:56 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now - https://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html 23:56 -!- Topic set by ChanServ [Tue Sep 2 17:34:51 2003] 23:56 (Users #rocklinux) 23:56 [ [anders] ] [ daja77] [ kasc ] [ netcrow ] [ rolla ] 23:56 [ Aard ] [ esden ] [ maze_fan ] [ netrunner] [ rxr ] 23:56 [ blindcoder] [ fake ] [ mistik1 ] [ nookie ] [ sekhmet] 23:56 [ cchamilt ] [ huebi ] [ mnemoc ] [ owl ] [ SMP ] 23:56 [ cytrinox` ] [ ija ] [ Nebukadneza] [ praenti ] [ snyke ] 23:56 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 25 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 25 normal] 23:56 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Mon Aug 4 00:11:35 2003 23:56 -!- Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 15 secs 23:57 < mnemoc> ehm --- Log closed Tue Dec 16 00:00:14 2003