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--- Log opened Wed Dec 17 00:01:15 2003 00:04 < mnemoc> what a day on #rl :\ 00:13 -!- dsoul_ [darksoul@pingu.ii.uj.edu.pl] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00:26 < daja77> re 00:27 -!- dsoul_ [darksoul@pingu.ii.uj.edu.pl] has joined #rocklinux 00:29 < mnemoc> wb daja77 00:30 < daja77> thx mnemoc 00:30 < daja77> you are the last rocker here? 00:31 < mnemoc> s/last/only/ :( 00:31 < daja77> :( 00:42 < daja77> so how are you? 00:49 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-210.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:02 * daja77 off to bed, cu 01:06 < mnemoc> cu 01:11 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-059-236.arcor-ip.net] has quit (No route to host) 02:02 -!- kasc [~kasc@dsl-082-082-082-064.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("[BX] He-Man uses BitchX. *HE HAS THE POOWWEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRR!!!!!*") 02:47 -!- nookie [~nookie@M488P019.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 02:53 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M386P002.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 03:36 -!- neitzsche [~zen@pcp255680pcs.howard01.md.comcast.net] has joined #rocklinux 03:37 -!- neitzsche [~zen@pcp255680pcs.howard01.md.comcast.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04:31 -!- cytrinox` [~dj-nail@p213.54.244.162.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 04:51 -!- cytrinox`- [~dj-nail@p213.54.201.163.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:44 -!- dsoul_ [darksoul@pingu.ii.uj.edu.pl] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07:02 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-182.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 07:11 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-057-210.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 07:36 < blindcoder> moin 07:53 -!- dsoul [darksoul@www.offspring.art.pl] has joined #rocklinux 09:37 -!- MadTux [~mike@ip140-62.ct.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 09:37 < MadTux> hello 09:38 < blindcoder> moin MadTux :) 09:39 < MadTux> hello Blindy 09:41 < blindcoder> I hate writing documentation 09:42 < MadTux> hehe .. believe me, you are not the only one 09:43 < blindcoder> Oh, I _know_ that I#m not 09:44 < MadTux> good :) 09:44 < MadTux> i think only owls and so like that stuff 09:44 < MadTux> *ggg* 09:44 < blindcoder> I don't think she does, eiher 09:46 < MadTux> bah.. 09:46 -!- dsoul [darksoul@www.offspring.art.pl] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 09:47 < blindcoder> Well, it's only a Red Crap Kickstart Server 09:49 < blindcoder> Copy'n'Paste from man-pages and I''m almost done 09:51 < MadTux> heheh and you call that "writting"? :P 09:52 < blindcoder> "Creating" or "bundling" or dvdn "munching together and spitting out" 09:53 < blindcoder> you think it's okay to use regexes for filenames in documentation? 09:56 < MadTux> yeah 09:58 < blindcoder> /https://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/custom-guide/s1-kickstart2-opations.htmlgood :) 09:58 < blindcoder> good :) 09:58 < blindcoder> gnarf 09:58 < blindcoder> not good >_< 10:21 -!- Netsplit niven.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: sekhmet 10:22 -!- Netsplit niven.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: mistik1, cytrinox`, huebi, fake, owl, rolla_, daja77, Robe_, praenti, rxr, (+5 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 10:22 -!- Netsplit over, joins: sekhmet 10:22 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Nebukadneza``, cytrinox`, netrunner, clifford, rolla_, Robe_, fake, rxr, huebi, owl (+5 more) 10:30 < blindcoder> booorgin 10:32 < MadTux> ? 10:33 * MadTux happy 2 contractor work offers arrived today :) 10:38 < blindcoder> cool :) 10:39 < MadTux> yeah :).. no more worries about finances during 2004 i guess :) 10:39 < netrunner> MadTux: I also got one of them: Make $5,000-$10,000 on your Computer. Honest! 10:39 < netrunner> :) 10:39 < MadTux> netrunner: hehe.. :) 10:39 < MadTux> how are you netty? 10:40 < blindcoder> moin netty 10:40 < blindcoder> netrunner: daily or monthly? 10:40 * blindcoder deleting his minimal build 10:41 < MadTux> bl;indy how did it go? 10:41 < netrunner> MadTux: fine, thx :) 10:41 < MadTux> blindy would you like to test my changes on minimal before i submit my patch? 10:41 < netrunner> blindcoder: I did not ask :) 10:41 < blindcoder> MadTux: works fine 10:41 < MadTux> netty glad to hear :) 10:41 < netrunner> MadTux: and you? 10:41 < blindcoder> MadTux: ehm... 5 minutes earlier and I'd still have a build... but send them over 10:41 < MadTux> netty quite good thanks for asking :) 10:42 < blindcoder> MadTux: I'm now running WLAN and all on the machine without problems 10:42 < MadTux> blindcoder: ok will send you a patch.. email addy? 10:42 < MadTux> excellent :) 10:43 < MadTux> blindy you have mail 10:44 < blindcoder> and creating new LVPs :) 10:45 < MadTux> :) 10:45 < blindcoder> MadTux: patch looks good 10:45 < MadTux> I'm very glad that I'm not the only one that actually uses minimal :) 10:46 < MadTux> blindy yeah i manged to reduce LOTS of un needed patch but to still keep minimal able to work with network and to have anything needed to build rock 10:46 < MadTux> :) 10:47 < MadTux> blindy i haven't been able to run a complete build to test if i messed something, had to abort build.. 10:47 < daja77> moin 10:47 < MadTux> please let me know on the results if you get the chance to build it 10:47 < MadTux> moin daja77 10:47 < daja77> moin MadTux 10:48 * daja77 bought a wlan card yesterday ... 10:48 < blindcoder> moin daja 10:48 < blindcoder> daja77: with or without vendor-linux-support? 10:48 < daja77> moin blindy 10:48 < daja77> one which is supported by linux-wlan-ng 10:49 < blindcoder> okay 10:49 * blindcoder is happy with ndiswrapper ^^ 10:49 < MadTux> so soon we will be calling you waja77 instead of daja77? 10:49 < MadTux> :) 10:50 < daja77> :p 10:50 < daja77> just want to have net at 20c3 10:50 < MadTux> good thing waja77 :) 10:51 * blindcoder has WLAN in his big machine and laptop 10:51 < blindcoder> so I won't have too much trouble, I think 10:51 < MadTux> :) 10:51 < MadTux> you'll take both to 20c3? 10:51 < daja77> i will only bring alaptop anyway 10:51 < blindcoder> probably 10:51 < blindcoder> my big machine in any case, have to show off a bit 10:52 < blindcoder> my laptop... I'm not sure yet 10:52 < blindcoder> But I think I will 10:52 < MadTux> to impress other with ur centrino? 10:52 < daja77> have to test the card with university wlan this week 10:52 < MadTux> :P 10:52 < blindcoder> as long as there is no WEP I'm 100% fine :) 10:52 < blindcoder> WEP is... say... unstable with ndiswrapper 10:52 < daja77> yesterday the wlan guy here told me a nice story 10:53 < blindcoder> TELL ME! TELL ME! TELL ME, TOO! 10:53 < MadTux> :) 10:53 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M478P019.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 10:54 < MadTux> n00kie 10:54 < daja77> they got money for a wlan switch, which should be installed at a church's tower, they tested it, they made 3km with it, official reason for getting it is to stream the service to the senior's house next to it 10:54 < blindcoder> nice 10:55 < daja77> yep, guess we can use it the rest of the time 10:55 < daja77> intranet across the city 10:55 < blindcoder> hehe 10:55 * blindcoder likes sitting with his laptop in the Allegro Cafe :) 10:55 < daja77> they got 1500 ¤ for that 10:55 < blindcoder> they were the first in Bavaria to provide WLAN to customers 10:56 < blindcoder> and they are providing it for over a year now 10:56 < daja77> we are trying to buy some traffic from eastlink to have internet too 10:56 < blindcoder> 1500 for a WLAN switch? ehm... 10:56 < daja77> :) 10:57 < daja77> well that's they money we can sepnd ... 10:57 < blindcoder> I see 10:58 < daja77> this card here dows only 22mbits/s, but it will be fine for me, when it works without trouble 10:58 < daja77> does 11:04 -!- nookie [~nookie@M488P019.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:06 < blindcoder> my 802.11b only makes 300 kB atm 11:06 < blindcoder> from an 802.11b centrino to a 802.11g AP to a 802.11g PCI 11:07 < blindcoder> using wired LAN on the AP to the PCI I get almost 2 MB/s 11:10 * SMP just finished alpha stage of implanted MD5 sums in our ISOs with checking from stage1 linuxrc 11:13 < blindcoder> cool 11:18 < blindcoder> SMP: but won't it take about ages to create a md5sum of a complete CD/DVD? 11:19 < blindcoder> netrunner: have you had a chance to look at my build live-system? 11:19 < daja77> blindcoder: speaking about that, would it be good to supply an ordinary rock cd set as well on 20c3? 11:20 < SMP> blindcoder: well the verification has to be invoked manually 11:22 < daja77> 11:22 <@Rafayel> Der Kurs "Flirten für Informatiker" wurde inzwischen zusammen mit 11:22 < daja77> 11:22 <@Rafayel> "Freeclimbing für Epileptiker" aus allen VHS-Programmen entfernt. 11:22 < daja77> args damn wrong chan 11:26 < MadTux> *g* 11:28 < blindcoder> daja77: sure, we can create DVD-Sets and CD-Sets from the same sources 11:28 < blindcoder> SMP: okay, that sounds reasonable 11:28 < daja77> i can bring a laptop with cd burner with me 11:28 < blindcoder> daja77: the only difference is that you call Create-ISO with -size 700 instead of -size 4489 11:29 * SMP will have CD/DVD writer as well 11:29 < blindcoder> daja77: I'll have my big machine with DVD-R and CD-RW with me, but more CD-Writers are always a good idea :) 11:29 < daja77> blindcoder: well yes but i would be nice to know when there is good point to start with a build 11:29 < blindcoder> I'll take around 50 DVD-Rs and 100 CD-Rs with me 11:29 < daja77> i'd like to start before xmas, cos i will be offline over xmas 11:30 < blindcoder> daja77: if you want to help me with the 20C3ISO Sets then just tell me, I'll create the configs and distribute the workload on Dec 20 11:30 < daja77> yeah i am building the official generic isos anyway 11:30 < daja77> since beta6 :) 11:31 < blindcoder> daja77: what machine do you have as build machine?= 11:31 < daja77> athlonxp 1800+ 11:31 < blindcoder> _very_ good, I still needed people for athlon 11:31 < daja77> ak that matches 11:31 < daja77> ok 11:32 < blindcoder> So I'll send you your work package on Dec 20 before 12:00 CET 11:32 < daja77> well that would mean i could test the isos on 23th, should be fine 11:33 < daja77> ok send it to daja@rocklinux.org 11:33 < blindcoder> will do 11:34 < daja77> great 11:34 < blindcoder> unfortunately it's not sure if Mike can attend 20C3 yet so I'll have to distribute the Athlon Work between netrunner and you 11:34 < daja77> np 11:35 < daja77> just keep in mind that i have to finish before 24th, just need a pause before 20c3 11:35 < blindcoder> I'll provide the Intel builds myself since at Dec 20 (what a coincidence :) I get my hands on 12 Pentium4 2.4GHz machines until Dec 26 11:36 < blindcoder> daja77: hmm... can you finish Desktop, generic and a minimal build in that time? 11:36 < daja77> will be hard 11:36 < daja77> i could build minimal on the laptop, which is athlon too 11:37 < blindcoder> so we'll be short a desktop build... 11:37 < blindcoder> netrunner will provide Athlon MP builds 11:37 < blindcoder> maybe he can snuck one in... or else we'll have to build that one on Dec 26 at 20C3 11:37 < daja77> maybe you can provide the setttings on 19th? 11:38 < blindcoder> I'll tryx 11:38 < daja77> i'll come on 27th 11:38 < blindcoder> I just hope rxr will have tagged 20-rc4 by then 11:38 < blindcoder> daja77: I see, well that should be no problem, since the guests also come on 27 :) 11:38 < daja77> yep 11:39 < daja77> family is here 'til 26th 11:39 < blindcoder> I see 11:39 < blindcoder> well, mine is here until 26, too, but I don't really care 11:39 < daja77> well i do 11:42 < blindcoder> it's better your way probably 11:42 < daja77> dunno 11:43 < blindcoder> but I don't care about a part of my family that hasn't been around my whole life and now that his life is about to end he wants to make up with us to be able to die happily 11:44 * daja77 has been welcome in his family from the beginning 11:44 * daja77 is alucky bastard 11:44 < daja77> i know 11:45 < blindcoder> I have been, too, that's not the problem. 11:45 < blindcoder> It's that my... grandfather... never cared about us. And now he wants us to welcome him again. 11:45 < blindcoder> Personally, I can't do this. 11:45 < daja77> ic 11:46 < blindcoder> Being part of a family is not like some clothes that you can dress yourself in when it's convenient 11:46 < MadTux> who cares about real life family, we all rock developers and some how something like family 11:46 < daja77> yes, you can choose friends but not family 11:47 < blindcoder> MadTux: indeed we are. But you mustn't forget your family that you're related to by blood. 11:47 < daja77> MadTux: in fact i do ... 11:47 < blindcoder> And if, for some reason, you want to distance yourself from it, then it's okay. But you mustn't come back just to "die happily". 11:48 < daja77> yes strange story 11:48 < MadTux> i don't fprget about them and i care about .. some.. lets say a few of them.. but with my rock family i feel way better most of the times 11:48 < blindcoder> I don't care about the reasons he might have had to cut all contacts. But I do care about the fact that he did 11:49 < daja77> to know the reasons might help understanding it 11:49 < blindcoder> hmm... I feel more at ease with my parents and eeryone, but that's different for everyone 11:49 < blindcoder> I know the reasons 11:49 < daja77> oh k. 11:49 < blindcoder> Maybe that makes me even more angry about it 11:49 < daja77> seems so :) 11:50 < blindcoder> He got divorced with my grandmother and married someone else. Okay, these things happen. 11:50 < blindcoder> Then he cheated with his monthly payments until my family had to sue him over them. 11:50 < daja77> :( 11:50 < blindcoder> And when my grandma died he didn't even attend the funeral. 11:51 < blindcoder> Sorry, but I can't accept someone like that back into my family. 11:51 < blindcoder> I didn't and I don't plan to talk to this... foreigner. 11:51 * daja77 never knew one of his grandfathers, cos i never met him before he died 2 years ago 11:51 * MadTux gives full support to blindy 11:52 < daja77> yes i understand you, maybe i would do the same 11:52 -!- kasc [~kasc@dsl-213-023-063-130.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:52 < daja77> kasc! 11:52 < blindcoder> daja77: that's similiar to me, I never met really met him, but with me it's by choice, so not that bad... 11:53 < daja77> the reasonm was a divorce too ... 11:53 < daja77> so the only grandfather i have now, is the second husband of my granny 11:55 < daja77> at least i knew my second real grandfather 11:55 < blindcoder> I'm not sure if I could accept someone like that as grandfather. As part of my family, no problem. But grandfather is someone special to me. 11:55 < daja77> well in fact, we do not have much contact 11:56 < blindcoder> I see. 11:56 < daja77> and i do not have much to talk about with him 11:56 < daja77> he is just there when I am with my granny 11:56 < blindcoder> hmhm 11:56 < daja77> guess you are not surprised? 11:57 < blindcoder> Guess I'm the lukcy bastard then, my other grandparents live a 10 minute walk away from my home 11:57 < MadTux> 5am.. fsck... another day is gone.. 11:57 < daja77> n8 Miguel 11:57 < MadTux> must hide before sun light gets me 11:57 < blindcoder> daja77: not really. I have contact with a lot of my family, but I rarely talk with the "eingeheirateten" 11:57 < MadTux> gn8 all 11:57 < blindcoder> MadTux: Good night, Vampire :) 11:58 < MadTux> ok Blindpire :) 11:58 < daja77> hehe 11:59 < blindcoder> dammit, I'm getting hungry< 11:59 -!- MadTux [~mike@ip140-62.ct.co.cr] has quit ("Client Exiting") 11:59 < daja77> yeah breakfast should happen soon 14:42 -!- esden [~weasel@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:42 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now - https://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html 14:42 -!- Topic set by ChanServ [Tue Sep 2 17:34:51 2003] 14:42 (Users #rocklinux) 14:42 [ [anders] ] [ daja77] [ ija ] [ netcrow ] [ rolla_ ] 14:42 [ Aard ] [ dsoul ] [ kasc ] [ netrunner] [ rxr ] 14:42 [ blindcoder] [ esden ] [ mistik1 ] [ nookie_ ] [ sekhmet] 14:42 [ clifford ] [ fake ] [ mnemoc ] [ owl ] [ SMP ] 14:42 [ cytrinox` ] [ huebi ] [ Nebukadneza``] [ Robe_ ] [ snyke ] 14:42 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 25 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 25 normal] 14:42 -!- praenti [~praenti@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:42 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Mon Aug 4 00:11:35 2003 14:42 -!- Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 29 secs 14:42 -!- maze_fan [~crash@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:43 < netrunner> ah, bingo is back up :) 14:43 < blindcoder> jo ^^ 14:43 < blindcoder> a building is being crushed down and they cut a cable while doing that 14:44 < blindcoder> some 150m away from where the servers stand 14:44 < blindcoder> it's a tradition, whenever there is something built or crushed down in a 250m radius the cable is getting cut. 14:45 < mnemoc> *g* 14:53 < daja77> lol 14:54 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 14:55 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:58 < rxr> awating the qt-3.2.3 for PowerPC build with gcc-3.3.2 - built with gcc-2.2.3 qt/uic only segfaults loading a shared library - quite annoying ... 14:58 < rxr> hopefully this is soem compiler bug and vanishes with gcc-3.3.2 ... 14:59 < daja77> rxr: btw if we tag final on 24th this would be nice, but we still would give away rc4 on the congress ... 15:00 < blindcoder> daja77: Create-ErrList -newdelete _should_ work 15:00 < blindcoder> since as far as I see it it's only rocknet that is holding up -final 15:01 < rxr> no 15:01 < rxr> rocknet is in SVN and mostly finished 15:01 < rxr> only some pending patches and final corrections will be in -final 15:01 < daja77> blindcoder: i can't do any builds before congress after 14th, so this wouldn't be that good 15:01 < SMP> we're not there yet ... 15:02 < daja77> 24th i mean 15:02 < daja77> SMP: erh what do you mean? 15:02 < blindcoder> now I know why apollo_private is so fucking slow 15:02 < mnemoc> rock-2.0.0-xmas-edition 15:02 < SMP> daja77: I mean we're nowhere near -final 15:02 < SMP> not even near a real RC 15:02 < daja77> yeah with xsnow enabled as default 15:03 < mnemoc> SMP: can you mail what you think we need to it? 15:03 < netrunner> xsnowfb at boot? :) 15:03 < daja77> yeah 15:03 < SMP> mnemoc: browse through flyspray for starters 15:04 < SMP> also we still need to forward port some patches from 1.5 (!!!) 15:04 < mnemoc> <SMP> not even near a real RC <--- i don't see anything on flispray to said that 15:04 < blindcoder> Hehe, maybe we should submit ROCK Linux Stable to wired.com's Vaporware awards :) 15:04 < SMP> mnemoc: just #86, #120, #155 for example 15:05 < daja77> well it would be cool if those who open a bug, would close it when it is finished ... 15:05 < SMP> mnemoc: plus some things from all oh-so-long BUGS / TODO files 15:05 < mnemoc> daja77: yeah 15:06 < SMP> well the thing is, there are no bugs getting fixed .. 15:06 < daja77> nope 15:06 < mnemoc> i have finished some that still open on flyspray, have you? 15:07 < daja77> SMP: to be honest those bugs are not nice, but no showstoppers 15:07 < mnemoc> if you know what to foward-port from 1.5 do it 15:07 < blindcoder> I don't want to be the badmouth here, but the first one you mentioned (#86) is assigned to yourself 15:08 < blindcoder> and #155 looks fixed to me 15:08 < blindcoder> anyway, I'm leaving work early today 15:08 < blindcoder> meaning now 15:08 < blindcoder> see you later! 15:08 < mnemoc> cu blindcoder 15:09 < SMP> mnemoc: all bugs that I care for are still open and not fixed. if you have fixed some, just close them, too ... 15:09 < mnemoc> i don't have access to do that 15:09 * daja77 neither 15:09 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@p50802185.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:10 < SMP> blindcoder: so what? I don't work for a schedule that leaves no room for good quality. if people want a pseudo-final rock so soon, they can have it, but I'm not going to get in a hurry 15:11 < daja77> rock final != debian woody 15:11 < mnemoc> SMP: can you forward-port the patches on 1.5 you think need to be on 2.0? 15:11 < SMP> I guess so ... 15:12 < daja77> btw i'd like to see that not everybody is putting his/her end of the year frustrations into this chan 15:12 < SMP> who is frustrated? 15:13 < daja77> can't tell for sure, just some here sound this way 15:13 < SMP> I have disagreed with Rene's schedule for a long time ... 15:13 < SMP> not that it matters if I disagree ... 15:13 < daja77> indeed ... 15:17 < SMP> e.g. the order in which rockplug agents get cold-plugged is broken 15:18 < rxr> SMP: which details of rockplug are broken ? 15:18 < SMP> some filenames and pathes need to be sorted out and moved -- this _is_ something that has to happen before -final 15:19 < rxr> SMP: if noone cares - or noone does the work it will happen never 15:19 < rxr> SMP: so if you have some issues fix them and send the patch 15:20 < daja77> rxr: btw should i file non recognized hw in flyspray or mail to you 15:20 < rxr> mail me or the list 15:20 < daja77> ok 15:20 < rxr> flyspray needs notification mails - otherwise they will hang it until I browse thru all bugs the next time 15:20 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p508024B9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:21 < rxr> SMP: what rockplug order is broken ? 15:21 < mnemoc> usb*.o modules are forced to be loaded, but currently they are built-in 15:21 < SMP> rxr: you can't just run each of /etc/rockplug/*.init -- they should be run in a specific order, e.g. pci first, and scsi after 1394 and so on 15:22 < rxr> ok - simple rename 1-pci 2-scsi and so on ... 15:22 < SMP> I have some things mofified in my tree, but often these are part of a larger solution that is not yet finished 15:23 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 15:29 < mnemoc> i have 467k of diff but i still can split them to contribute for the -final 15:30 < rxr> mnemoc: I just commit a rockplug code-removal for this hardcoded module stuff ... 15:31 * rxr rebooting my iBook X-Terminal - cu 15:31 < mnemoc> cu 15:35 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Aard 15:35 -!- Netsplit zelazny.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: owl, huebi 15:36 -!- Netsplit over, joins: owl, huebi 15:37 < rxr> re 15:43 < mnemoc> what's an 'a rockplug code-removal'? 15:43 < mnemoc> a # in front of the list of modules? 15:57 -!- Netsplit zelazny.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: rxr 15:58 -!- Netsplit over, joins: rxr 15:58 < rxr> re 15:58 < rxr> hm - strange 15:58 < mnemoc> ? 15:59 < rxr> that I got disconnected from the irc server 16:00 < mnemoc> ùíù Netsplit zelazny.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: rxr 16:04 < rxr> ah 16:59 < mnemoc> The Per Context Quota/Disk Limits Addon allows to have separate quota domains and per context disk limits for vservers on a shared partition. 16:59 < mnemoc> ehm 16:59 < mnemoc> wrong window :( 17:01 < blindcoder> rxr: what to do with devices that don't get recognized by rockplug (serial to usb converter in this case) 17:01 < daja77> mailing this issue 17:01 < blindcoder> with what information? lsusb? 17:02 < daja77> dunno 17:02 < daja77> pcmcia issue here 17:02 < blindcoder> ic 17:02 < daja77> but mail as much useful info as possible i think 17:03 < blindcoder> ok, will do so later 17:04 < blindcoder> got to go now 17:04 < daja77> cu 17:04 < mnemoc> cu blindcoder 17:11 < rxr> blindcoder: this serial - usb converti thing shoudl be fixed in ROCK Plug head 17:12 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-27-183.reverse.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:12 < holyolli> moin 17:14 < daja77> moin holyolli 17:15 < holyolli> huhu daja77 17:15 < daja77> :) 17:15 < rxr> hi holyolli 17:16 * daja77 hugs rxr 17:27 < rxr> mnemoc: if you have the straw file, please email it to me 17:27 < rxr> it's project site fot cracked - and even I do not have it ... 17:28 < SMP> we have a cksum, so someone must have (had) it 17:44 * netrunner has /space/linux/rock-download/gnome24/straw/straw-0.19.1.tar.bz2 17:44 < holyolli> hi rxr 17:44 < netrunner> is that what you are looking for? 17:45 < mnemoc> netrunner: 0.21.2 17:45 < netrunner> ah, just found an update in rev 1997. 17:46 < mnemoc> rxr: i guess only george has that file :\ 17:48 < netrunner> mnemoc: you can pull ftp://ftp.gnu.org/savannah/cvs/straw-cvs-latest.tar.gz ... 17:48 < mnemoc> we need that file for the mirrors 17:50 < netrunner> hm ... that's the prog I was looking for today :) 17:52 < mnemoc> rxr: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/savannah/cvs/straw-cvs-latest.tar.gz as 0.21.2-2003-12-15 ? 17:54 < netrunner> mnemoc: I just fetched that and it's content's look odd, maybe one has to run a command on it? lot's of files ending in ,v 17:54 < netrunner> mnemoc: maybe we repackage the contents of the cvs-latest thing as a nicer .tar.bz2 with the name you mentioned. 17:55 < mnemoc> ,v ?? they tar the CVSROOT?? 17:55 < rxr> I mailed jsaw to send the file if available .. 17:56 < mnemoc> can we know if he has an 'uncompromised' tarball? 18:02 < rxr> you can review it - but I guess most files on the site are not touched - and this newsreader (?) should not be the most attractive thing on the side 18:02 < mnemoc> =) 18:03 < daja77> that would be gcc ... 18:08 < netrunner> rxr: it displays rss newsfeeds :) 18:48 -!- nookie [~nookie@M284P015.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 18:58 < rxr> https://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/ftp/software/rockplug/rockplug-0.0.5.tar.bz2 18:59 < rxr> ^- in the case someone wants to review it ... 19:00 * blindcoder back 19:03 < rxr> blindcoder: can you test your serial cable with the above rockplug ? 19:03 < blindcoder> do I have tore install anything beside rockplug? 19:04 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M478P019.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:04 < SMP> blindcoder: the correct kernel module 19:04 < blindcoder> just wanted to update :) 19:04 < blindcoder> the module is here, the device works already 19:05 * daja77 now building hostap to get his wlan card running >_< 19:06 < rxr> ok - cu later 19:06 < blindcoder> okay, just waiting for some maps to finish downloading then trying 19:08 < SMP> ok, just send isomd5 diff to rlml 19:08 < SMP> s,send,sent, 19:09 < mnemoc> =) 19:14 < rxr> ok - cu later 19:15 < blindcoder> rxr: WEE! works :) 19:17 < daja77> damn 19:18 < mnemoc> daja77: hostap didn't work? 19:19 < daja77> atm not 19:33 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAA0C0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:34 -!- cchamilt [~chatzilla@cm200.gamma145.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #rocklinux 19:35 < cchamilt> hello 19:35 < tcr> hi cchamilt 19:35 < daja77> hi cchamilt 19:36 < cchamilt> hmm, md5 code in rock. I like that. 19:36 < cchamilt> I hope smp's stuff works and gets put in. 19:38 < SMP> well, I might be wrong, but it works just great 19:39 < cchamilt> Now to add md5sum to bootdisks initrd and then have linuxrc find its own iso in cdroms for a my user friendly system. 19:39 * blindcoder gone to RotK 19:39 < cchamilt> Of course that does take a while to confirm doesnt it? 19:39 < tcr> have phun blindcoder 19:39 < cchamilt> cya blindy 19:40 < cchamilt> what would be the best way to 'find' a cd in the cdroms. Just look for a file? 19:40 < tcr> blindcoder, the trip will be worthwhile :) 19:41 < tcr> Isn't that done already? 19:41 < daja77> mnemoc: hah found out why, this is no prismII based card as expected but ti based *grml* 19:41 < cchamilt> No, it is still a manual selection last time I checked. 19:42 < tcr> cchamilt, hmm there's no verification whether the cd in the drive is the correct one? 19:42 < mnemoc> daja77: TI sucks :( 19:42 < cchamilt> I hacked it once to mount cdrom0-? and succeed on successfully untaring the install tarball. 19:43 < daja77> yeah but how the heck should i know that one of the 650 cards is not prismII 19:43 < cchamilt> If it ran out of cdroms, then it would prompt like it does now. 19:43 < daja77> maybe i sell it after 20c3 19:43 < daja77> experiencing the true pain before that event ^^ 19:44 < cchamilt> It would boot ANY rock iso that way. However, maybe it should check for versions too. 19:45 < cchamilt> I think large/small install should be a lilo option anyway, all other distros put things like that there. 19:46 < cchamilt> Remind me again why we use checksums and not md5sums for package verification? 19:47 < tcr> Quicker? 19:47 < SMP> cchamilt: hysterical raisins? 19:48 -!- _^izaN^_ [~TuX@81.172.74.74] has joined #rocklinux 19:48 -!- _^izaN^_ [~TuX@81.172.74.74] has left #rocklinux () 19:48 < cchamilt> I thought so, now if we can get general md5 ops in rock as c, this should be doable right? 19:48 < daja77> some nice guy borrows me his prism3 based card for congress 19:49 < SMP> cchamilt: just s/cksum/md5sum/g over the code 19:49 < cchamilt> I got some addtron prisms, but they dont work with a linksys router... 19:49 * daja77 off to party now 19:49 < cchamilt> cya daja 19:50 < cchamilt> Would our md5sums match posted sums from maintainers? 19:50 < SMP> cchamilt: no, we cksum the uncompressed tar 19:51 < cchamilt> that's what I thought. hmm. 19:51 < cchamilt> why do we do that instead of checksum it before the bz2 conversion? 19:52 < cchamilt> oh, so we can later derive the same checksum... 19:52 < mnemoc> cchamilt: because we mirror original finals, not tgz 19:52 < mnemoc> bz2* 19:52 < mnemoc> files* 19:52 < mnemoc> aaarg... i can't breath... to hot here 19:52 < cchamilt> heh 19:54 < cchamilt> my server got all flaky again last week for a few days, and now it seems ok again. I think it is spamd, which is actually having problems due to perl5 being flaky on the system. 19:56 < cchamilt> it seems to hang open sockets which loads exim's exiscan down and then locks up receiving mail. Then after it uses up enough resources, I notice when imap no longer can make new connections. 19:56 < cchamilt> So I lose about 6 hours of smtp before responding... 19:57 < mnemoc> ehmm 20:09 < rolla_> re 20:09 < cchamilt> hi rolla 20:10 < rolla_> :) 20:10 * rolla_ just got done seeing LoTR ROTK 20:10 < cchamilt> jocelyn and i will do that saturday. 20:11 < rolla_> :) 20:11 -!- rolla_ is now known as rolla 20:11 < cchamilt> was it good? 20:11 < rolla> yeah 20:12 < rolla> just 3+ hours in one spot makes me hurt :) 20:13 < cchamilt> yep, i am actually dreading that. long movies are bad that way. 20:18 < netrunner> hahaha, in morrowind you just pull up the console, click on your enemy, enter 'sethealth 0' and he dies :) 20:19 < netrunner> that's a game with features for coders :) 20:20 < cchamilt> used to love finding bugs in elderscrolls. but not all of the dungeons were finishable. 20:21 < cchamilt> they were never known for being good codesr. 20:21 < netrunner> that game seems to be rather old? just started to play it. 20:22 < cchamilt> morrowind is about a year old. there are expansions for it i think. 20:22 -!- nookie [~nookie@M284P015.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("Lost terminal") 20:22 < cchamilt> it plays on winex finally i have heard. 20:27 -!- m4Zz [~sascha@adsl-212-101-21-193.solnet.ch] has joined #rocklinux 20:41 -!- m4Zz [~sascha@adsl-212-101-21-193.solnet.ch] has quit ("leaving") 20:41 -!- sascha [~sascha@adsl-212-101-21-193.solnet.ch] has joined #rocklinux 20:41 -!- sascha [~sascha@adsl-212-101-21-193.solnet.ch] has quit (Client Quit) 20:59 -!- sascha [~sascha@adsl-212-101-21-193.solnet.ch] has joined #rocklinux 21:01 -!- sascha is now known as m4Zz 21:28 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAA0C0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 22:31 -!- m4Zz [~sascha@adsl-212-101-21-193.solnet.ch] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 22:38 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-182.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 22:39 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-094.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:49 -!- dsoul [darksoul@pingu.ii.uj.edu.pl] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23:02 < mnemoc> *yawn* 23:21 -!- dsoul [darksoul@pingu.ii.uj.edu.pl] has joined #rocklinux 23:42 < rxr> re 23:42 < rxr> shit 23:42 < rxr> qt-3.2.3 does compile on x86 23:43 < rxr> damn - there is a really freaky bug in qt - or the GNU toolchain - that produces really ugly - not really debuganle - segfaults on PowerPC ... :-((((( 23:46 < mnemoc> ehm 23:47 < rxr> yeah? 23:51 < mnemoc> way can a released version of something build on ppc and not in x86? 23:51 < mnemoc> why* 23:52 < mnemoc> btw, how are you rxr? 23:53 < rxr> good 23:53 < rxr> it is the other way round 23:53 < rxr> it builds on x86 and does not on PPC 23:53 < rxr> Why? 23:54 < rxr> 1. works by accident on x86 (maybe some little endian issue or whatever) 23:54 < mnemoc> why what? 23:54 < mnemoc> ok 23:54 < rxr> 2. works on x86 because of implementation specifc reliance of the Qt code 23:54 < mnemoc> :\ 23:54 < rxr> 3. does not work on PowerPC because of GCC GAS or linker bugs ... 23:55 < rxr> I dont't know why - I looked into the segfaults some times now and have not yet got a clue 23:55 < mnemoc> gas segfault or it does on runtime? 23:56 < mnemoc> where is MadTux when i need him :( 23:57 < mnemoc> he ofer me a shell for doing bigger builds :( 23:57 < rxr> runtime 23:57 < rxr> uic seg-faults 23:57 < rxr> during loading some .so --- Log closed Thu Dec 18 00:00:04 2003