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00:04 < mnemoc> what a day on #rl :\
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00:26 < daja77> re
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00:29 < mnemoc> wb daja77 
00:30 < daja77> thx mnemoc 
00:30 < daja77> you are the last rocker here?
00:31 < mnemoc> s/last/only/ :(
00:31 < daja77> :(
00:42 < daja77> so how are you?
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01:02 * daja77 off to bed, cu
01:06 < mnemoc> cu
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07:36 < blindcoder> moin
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09:37 < MadTux> hello
09:38 < blindcoder> moin MadTux :)
09:39 < MadTux> hello Blindy
09:41 < blindcoder> I hate writing documentation
09:42 < MadTux> hehe .. believe me, you are not the only one
09:43 < blindcoder> Oh, I _know_ that I#m not
09:44 < MadTux> good :)
09:44 < MadTux> i think only owls and so like that stuff
09:44 < MadTux> *ggg*
09:44 < blindcoder> I don't think she does, eiher
09:46 < MadTux> bah.. 
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09:47 < blindcoder> Well, it's only a Red Crap Kickstart Server
09:49 < blindcoder> Copy'n'Paste from man-pages and I''m almost done
09:51 < MadTux> heheh and you call that "writting"? :P
09:52 < blindcoder> "Creating" or "bundling" or dvdn "munching together and spitting out"
09:53 < blindcoder> you think it's okay to use regexes for filenames in documentation?
09:56 < MadTux> yeah
09:58 < blindcoder> /http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/custom-guide/s1-kickstart2-opations.htmlgood :)
09:58 < blindcoder> good :)
09:58 < blindcoder> gnarf
09:58 < blindcoder> not good >_<
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10:30 < blindcoder> booorgin
10:32 < MadTux> ?
10:33 * MadTux happy 2 contractor work offers arrived today :)
10:38 < blindcoder> cool :)
10:39 < MadTux> yeah :).. no more worries about finances during 2004 i guess :)
10:39 < netrunner> MadTux: I also got one of them:  Make $5,000-$10,000 on your Computer. Honest!
10:39 < netrunner> :)
10:39 < MadTux> netrunner: hehe.. :)
10:39 < MadTux> how are you netty?
10:40 < blindcoder> moin netty
10:40 < blindcoder> netrunner: daily or monthly?
10:40 * blindcoder deleting his minimal build
10:41 < MadTux> bl;indy how did it go?
10:41 < netrunner> MadTux: fine, thx :)
10:41 < MadTux> blindy would you like to test my changes on minimal before i submit my patch?
10:41 < netrunner> blindcoder: I did not ask :)
10:41 < blindcoder> MadTux: works fine
10:41 < MadTux> netty glad to hear :)
10:41 < netrunner> MadTux: and you?
10:41 < blindcoder> MadTux: ehm... 5 minutes earlier and I'd still have a build... but send them over
10:41 < MadTux> netty quite good thanks for asking :)
10:42 < blindcoder> MadTux: I'm now running WLAN and all on the machine without problems
10:42 < MadTux> blindcoder: ok will send you a patch.. email addy?
10:42 < MadTux> excellent :)
10:43 < MadTux> blindy you have mail
10:44 < blindcoder> and creating new LVPs :)
10:45 < MadTux> :)
10:45 < blindcoder> MadTux: patch looks good
10:45 < MadTux> I'm very glad that I'm not the only one that actually uses minimal :)
10:46 < MadTux> blindy yeah i manged to reduce LOTS of un needed patch but to still keep minimal able to work with network and to have anything needed to build rock
10:46 < MadTux> :)
10:47 < MadTux> blindy i haven't been able to run a complete build to test if i messed something, had to abort build..
10:47 < daja77> moin
10:47 < MadTux> please let me know on the results if you get the chance to build it
10:47 < MadTux> moin daja77
10:47 < daja77> moin MadTux 
10:48 * daja77 bought a wlan card yesterday ...
10:48 < blindcoder> moin daja
10:48 < blindcoder> daja77: with or without vendor-linux-support?
10:48 < daja77> moin blindy
10:48 < daja77> one which is supported by linux-wlan-ng
10:49 < blindcoder> okay
10:49 * blindcoder is happy with ndiswrapper ^^
10:49 < MadTux> so soon we will be calling you waja77 instead of daja77?
10:49 < MadTux> :)
10:50 < daja77> :p
10:50 < daja77> just want to have net at 20c3
10:50 < MadTux> good thing waja77 :)
10:51 * blindcoder has WLAN in his big machine and laptop
10:51 < blindcoder> so I won't have too much trouble, I think
10:51 < MadTux> :)
10:51 < MadTux> you'll take both to 20c3?
10:51 < daja77> i will only bring alaptop anyway
10:51 < blindcoder> probably
10:51 < blindcoder> my big machine in any case, have to show off a bit
10:52 < blindcoder> my laptop... I'm not sure yet
10:52 < blindcoder> But I think I will
10:52 < MadTux> to impress other with ur centrino?
10:52 < daja77> have to test the card with university wlan this week
10:52 < MadTux> :P
10:52 < blindcoder> as long as there is no WEP I'm 100% fine :)
10:52 < blindcoder> WEP is... say... unstable with ndiswrapper
10:52 < daja77> yesterday the wlan guy here told me a nice story
10:53 < blindcoder> TELL ME! TELL ME! TELL ME, TOO!
10:53 < MadTux> :)
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10:54 < MadTux> n00kie
10:54 < daja77> they got money for a wlan switch, which should be installed at a church's tower, they tested it, they made 3km with it, official reason for getting it is to stream the service to the senior's house next to it
10:54 < blindcoder> nice
10:55 < daja77> yep, guess we can use it the rest of the time
10:55 < daja77> intranet across the city
10:55 < blindcoder> hehe
10:55 * blindcoder likes sitting with his laptop in the Allegro Cafe :)
10:55 < daja77> they got 1500  for that
10:55 < blindcoder> they were the first in Bavaria to provide WLAN to customers
10:56 < blindcoder> and they are providing it for over a year now
10:56 < daja77> we are trying to buy some traffic from eastlink to have internet too
10:56 < blindcoder> 1500 for a WLAN switch? ehm...
10:56 < daja77> :)
10:57 < daja77> well that's they money we can sepnd ...
10:57 < blindcoder> I see
10:58 < daja77> this card here dows only 22mbits/s, but it will be fine for me, when it works without trouble
10:58 < daja77> does
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11:06 < blindcoder> my 802.11b only makes 300 kB atm
11:06 < blindcoder> from an 802.11b centrino to a 802.11g AP to a 802.11g PCI
11:07 < blindcoder> using wired LAN on the AP to the PCI I get almost 2 MB/s
11:10 * SMP just finished alpha stage of implanted MD5 sums in our ISOs with checking from stage1 linuxrc
11:13 < blindcoder> cool
11:18 < blindcoder> SMP: but won't it take about ages to create a md5sum of a complete CD/DVD?
11:19 < blindcoder> netrunner: have you had a chance to look at my build live-system?
11:19 < daja77> blindcoder: speaking about that, would it be good to supply an ordinary rock cd set as well on 20c3?
11:20 < SMP> blindcoder: well the verification has to be invoked manually
11:22 < daja77> 11:22 <@Rafayel> Der Kurs "Flirten fr Informatiker" wurde inzwischen zusammen mit
11:22 < daja77> 11:22 <@Rafayel> "Freeclimbing fr Epileptiker" aus allen VHS-Programmen entfernt.
11:22 < daja77> args damn wrong chan
11:26 < MadTux> *g*
11:28 < blindcoder> daja77: sure, we can create DVD-Sets and CD-Sets from the same sources
11:28 < blindcoder> SMP: okay, that sounds reasonable
11:28 < daja77> i can bring a laptop with cd burner with me
11:28 < blindcoder> daja77: the only difference is that you call Create-ISO with -size 700 instead of -size 4489
11:29 * SMP will have CD/DVD writer as well
11:29 < blindcoder> daja77: I'll have my big machine with DVD-R and CD-RW with me, but more CD-Writers are always a good idea :)
11:29 < daja77> blindcoder: well yes but i would be nice to know when there is good point to start with a build
11:29 < blindcoder> I'll take around 50 DVD-Rs and 100 CD-Rs with me
11:29 < daja77> i'd like to start before xmas, cos i will be offline over xmas
11:30 < blindcoder> daja77: if you want to help me with the 20C3ISO Sets then just tell me, I'll create the configs and distribute the workload on Dec 20
11:30 < daja77> yeah i am building the official generic isos anyway
11:30 < daja77> since beta6 :)
11:31 < blindcoder> daja77: what machine do you have as build machine?=
11:31 < daja77> athlonxp 1800+
11:31 < blindcoder> _very_ good, I still needed people for athlon
11:31 < daja77> ak that matches
11:31 < daja77> ok
11:32 < blindcoder> So I'll send you your work package on Dec 20 before 12:00 CET
11:32 < daja77> well that would mean i could test the isos on 23th, should be fine
11:33 < daja77> ok send it to daja@rocklinux.org
11:33 < blindcoder> will do
11:34 < daja77> great
11:34 < blindcoder> unfortunately it's not sure if Mike can attend 20C3 yet so I'll have to distribute the Athlon Work between netrunner and you
11:34 < daja77> np
11:35 < daja77> just keep in mind that i have to finish before 24th, just need a pause before 20c3
11:35 < blindcoder> I'll provide the Intel builds myself since at Dec 20 (what a coincidence :) I get my hands on 12 Pentium4 2.4GHz machines until Dec 26
11:36 < blindcoder> daja77: hmm... can you finish Desktop, generic and a minimal build in that time?
11:36 < daja77> will be hard
11:36 < daja77> i could build minimal on the laptop, which is athlon too
11:37 < blindcoder> so we'll be short a desktop build...
11:37 < blindcoder> netrunner will provide Athlon MP builds
11:37 < blindcoder> maybe he can snuck one in... or else we'll have to build that one on Dec 26 at 20C3
11:37 < daja77> maybe you can provide the setttings on 19th?
11:38 < blindcoder> I'll tryx
11:38 < daja77> i'll come on 27th
11:38 < blindcoder> I just hope rxr will have tagged 20-rc4 by then
11:38 < blindcoder> daja77: I see, well that should be no problem, since the guests also come on 27 :)
11:38 < daja77> yep
11:39 < daja77> family is here 'til 26th
11:39 < blindcoder> I see
11:39 < blindcoder> well, mine is here until 26, too, but I don't really care
11:39 < daja77> well i do
11:42 < blindcoder> it's better your way probably
11:42 < daja77> dunno
11:43 < blindcoder> but I don't care about a part of my family that hasn't been around my whole life and now that his life is about to end he wants to make up with us to be able to die happily
11:44 * daja77 has been welcome in his family from the beginning
11:44 * daja77 is  alucky bastard
11:44 < daja77> i know
11:45 < blindcoder> I have been, too, that's not the problem.
11:45 < blindcoder> It's that my... grandfather... never cared about us. And now he wants us to welcome him again.
11:45 < blindcoder> Personally, I can't do this.
11:45 < daja77> ic
11:46 < blindcoder> Being part of a family is not like some clothes that you can dress yourself in when it's convenient
11:46 < MadTux> who cares about real life family, we all rock developers and some how something like family
11:46 < daja77> yes, you can choose friends but not family
11:47 < blindcoder> MadTux: indeed we are. But you mustn't forget your family that you're related to by blood.
11:47 < daja77> MadTux: in fact i do ...
11:47 < blindcoder> And if, for some reason, you want to distance yourself from it, then it's okay. But you mustn't come back just to "die happily".
11:48 < daja77> yes strange story
11:48 < MadTux> i don't fprget about them and i care about .. some.. lets say a few of them.. but with my rock family i feel way better most of the times
11:48 < blindcoder> I don't care about the reasons he might have had to cut all contacts. But I do care about the fact that he did
11:49 < daja77> to know the reasons might help understanding it
11:49 < blindcoder> hmm... I feel more at ease with my parents and eeryone, but that's different for everyone
11:49 < blindcoder> I know the reasons
11:49 < daja77> oh k.
11:49 < blindcoder> Maybe that makes me even more angry about it
11:49 < daja77> seems so :)
11:50 < blindcoder> He got divorced with my grandmother and married someone else. Okay, these things happen.
11:50 < blindcoder> Then he cheated with his monthly payments until my family had to sue him over them.
11:50 < daja77> :(
11:50 < blindcoder> And when my grandma died he didn't even attend the funeral.
11:51 < blindcoder> Sorry, but I can't accept someone like that back into my family.
11:51 < blindcoder> I didn't and I don't plan to talk to this... foreigner.
11:51 * daja77 never knew one of his grandfathers, cos i never met him before he died 2 years ago
11:51 * MadTux gives full support to blindy
11:52 < daja77> yes i understand you, maybe i would do the same
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11:52 < daja77> kasc!
11:52 < blindcoder> daja77: that's similiar to me, I never met really met him, but with me it's by choice, so not that bad...
11:53 < daja77> the reasonm was a divorce too ...
11:53 < daja77> so the only grandfather i have now, is the second husband of my granny
11:55 < daja77> at least i knew my second real grandfather
11:55 < blindcoder> I'm not sure if I could accept someone like that as grandfather. As part of my family, no problem. But grandfather is someone special to me.
11:55 < daja77> well in fact, we do not have much contact
11:56 < blindcoder> I see.
11:56 < daja77> and i do not have much to talk about with him
11:56 < daja77> he is just there when I am with my granny
11:56 < blindcoder> hmhm
11:56 < daja77> guess you are not surprised?
11:57 < blindcoder> Guess I'm the lukcy bastard then, my other grandparents live a 10 minute walk away from my home
11:57 < MadTux> 5am.. fsck... another day is gone..
11:57 < daja77> n8 Miguel
11:57 < MadTux> must hide before sun light gets me
11:57 < blindcoder> daja77: not really. I have contact with a lot of my family, but I rarely talk with the "eingeheirateten"
11:57 < MadTux> gn8 all
11:57 < blindcoder> MadTux: Good night, Vampire :)
11:58 < MadTux> ok Blindpire :)
11:58 < daja77> hehe
11:59 < blindcoder> dammit, I'm getting hungry<
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11:59 < daja77> yeah breakfast should happen soon
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14:43 < netrunner> ah, bingo is back up :)
14:43 < blindcoder> jo ^^
14:43 < blindcoder> a building is being crushed down and they cut a cable while doing that
14:44 < blindcoder> some 150m away from where the servers stand
14:44 < blindcoder> it's a tradition, whenever there is something built or crushed down in a 250m radius the cable is getting cut.
14:45 < mnemoc> *g*
14:53 < daja77> lol
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14:58 < rxr> awating the qt-3.2.3 for PowerPC build with gcc-3.3.2 - built with gcc-2.2.3 qt/uic only segfaults loading a shared library - quite annoying ...
14:58 < rxr> hopefully this is soem compiler bug and vanishes with gcc-3.3.2 ...
14:59 < daja77> rxr: btw if we tag final on 24th this would be nice, but we still would give away rc4 on the congress ...
15:00 < blindcoder> daja77: Create-ErrList -newdelete _should_ work
15:00 < blindcoder> since as far as I see it it's only rocknet that is holding up -final
15:01 < rxr> no
15:01 < rxr> rocknet is in SVN and mostly finished
15:01 < rxr> only some pending patches and final corrections will be in -final
15:01 < daja77> blindcoder: i can't do any builds before congress after 14th, so this wouldn't be that good
15:01 < SMP> we're not there yet ...
15:02 < daja77> 24th i mean
15:02 < daja77> SMP: erh what do you mean?
15:02 < blindcoder> now I know why apollo_private is so fucking slow
15:02 < mnemoc> rock-2.0.0-xmas-edition
15:02 < SMP> daja77: I mean we're nowhere near -final
15:02 < SMP> not even near a real RC
15:02 < daja77> yeah with xsnow enabled as default
15:03 < mnemoc> SMP: can you mail what you think we need to it?
15:03 < netrunner> xsnowfb at boot? :)
15:03 < daja77> yeah
15:03 < SMP> mnemoc: browse through flyspray for starters
15:04 < SMP> also we still need to forward port some patches from 1.5 (!!!)
15:04 < mnemoc> <SMP> not even near a real RC <--- i don't see anything on flispray to said that
15:04 < blindcoder> Hehe, maybe we should submit ROCK Linux Stable to wired.com's Vaporware awards :)
15:04 < SMP> mnemoc: just #86, #120, #155 for example
15:05 < daja77> well it would be cool if those who open a bug, would close it when it is finished ...
15:05 < SMP> mnemoc: plus some things from all oh-so-long BUGS / TODO files
15:05 < mnemoc> daja77: yeah
15:06 < SMP> well the thing is, there are no bugs getting fixed ..
15:06 < daja77> nope
15:06 < mnemoc> i have finished some that still open on flyspray, have you?
15:07 < daja77> SMP: to be honest those bugs are not nice, but no showstoppers
15:07 < mnemoc> if you know what to foward-port from 1.5 do it
15:07 < blindcoder> I don't want to be the badmouth here, but the first one you mentioned (#86) is assigned to yourself
15:08 < blindcoder> and #155 looks fixed to me
15:08 < blindcoder> anyway, I'm leaving work early today
15:08 < blindcoder> meaning now
15:08 < blindcoder> see you later!
15:08 < mnemoc> cu blindcoder 
15:09 < SMP> mnemoc: all bugs that I care for are still open and not fixed. if you have fixed some, just close them, too ...
15:09 < mnemoc> i don't have access to do that
15:09 * daja77 neither
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15:10 < SMP> blindcoder: so what? I don't work for a schedule that leaves no room for good quality. if people want a pseudo-final rock so soon, they can have it, but I'm not going to get in a hurry
15:11 < daja77> rock final != debian woody
15:11 < mnemoc> SMP: can you forward-port the patches on 1.5 you think need to be on 2.0?
15:11 < SMP> I guess so ...
15:12 < daja77> btw i'd like to see that not everybody is putting his/her end of the year frustrations into this chan
15:12 < SMP> who is frustrated?
15:13 < daja77> can't tell for sure, just some here sound this way
15:13 < SMP> I have disagreed with Rene's schedule for a long time ...
15:13 < SMP> not that it matters if I disagree ...
15:13 < daja77> indeed ...
15:17 < SMP> e.g. the order in which rockplug agents get cold-plugged is broken
15:18 < rxr> SMP: which details of rockplug are broken ?
15:18 < SMP> some filenames and pathes need to be sorted out and moved -- this _is_ something that has to happen before -final
15:19 < rxr> SMP: if noone cares - or noone does the work it will happen never
15:19 < rxr> SMP: so if you have some issues fix them and send the patch
15:20 < daja77> rxr: btw should i file non recognized hw in flyspray or mail to you
15:20 < rxr> mail me or the list
15:20 < daja77> ok
15:20 < rxr> flyspray needs notification mails - otherwise they will hang it until I browse thru all bugs the next time
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15:21 < rxr> SMP: what rockplug order is broken ?
15:21 < mnemoc> usb*.o modules are forced to be loaded, but currently they are built-in 
15:21 < SMP> rxr: you can't just run each of /etc/rockplug/*.init -- they should be run in a specific order, e.g. pci first, and scsi after 1394 and so on
15:22 < rxr> ok - simple rename 1-pci 2-scsi and so on ...
15:22 < SMP> I have some things mofified in my tree, but often these are part of a larger solution that is not yet finished
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15:29 < mnemoc> i have 467k of diff but i still can split them to contribute for the -final
15:30 < rxr> mnemoc: I just commit a rockplug code-removal for this hardcoded module stuff ...
15:31 * rxr rebooting my iBook X-Terminal - cu
15:31 < mnemoc> cu
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15:37 < rxr> re
15:43 < mnemoc> what's an 'a rockplug code-removal'?
15:43 < mnemoc> a # in front of the list of modules?
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15:58 < rxr> re
15:58 < rxr> hm - strange
15:58 < mnemoc> ?
15:59 < rxr> that I got disconnected from the irc server
16:00 < mnemoc>   Netsplit zelazny.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: rxr
16:04 < rxr> ah
16:59 < mnemoc> The Per Context Quota/Disk Limits Addon allows to have separate quota domains and per context disk limits for vservers on a shared partition.
16:59 < mnemoc> ehm
16:59 < mnemoc> wrong window :(
17:01 < blindcoder> rxr: what to do with devices that don't get recognized by rockplug (serial to usb converter in this case)
17:01 < daja77> mailing this issue 
17:01 < blindcoder> with what information? lsusb?
17:02 < daja77> dunno
17:02 < daja77> pcmcia issue here
17:02 < blindcoder> ic
17:02 < daja77> but mail as much useful info as possible i think
17:03 < blindcoder> ok, will do so later
17:04 < blindcoder> got to go now
17:04 < daja77> cu
17:04 < mnemoc> cu blindcoder 
17:11 < rxr> blindcoder: this serial - usb converti thing shoudl be fixed in ROCK Plug head
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17:12 < holyolli> moin
17:14 < daja77> moin holyolli 
17:15 < holyolli> huhu daja77
17:15 < daja77> :)
17:15 < rxr> hi holyolli 
17:16 * daja77 hugs rxr
17:27 < rxr> mnemoc: if you have the straw file, please email it to me
17:27 < rxr> it's project site fot cracked - and even I do not have it ...
17:28 < SMP> we have a cksum, so someone must have (had) it 
17:44 * netrunner has /space/linux/rock-download/gnome24/straw/straw-0.19.1.tar.bz2
17:44 < holyolli> hi rxr
17:44 < netrunner> is that what you are looking for?
17:45 < mnemoc> netrunner: 0.21.2
17:45 < netrunner> ah, just found an update in rev 1997.
17:46 < mnemoc> rxr: i guess only george has that file :\
17:48 < netrunner> mnemoc: you can pull ftp://ftp.gnu.org/savannah/cvs/straw-cvs-latest.tar.gz ...
17:48 < mnemoc> we need that file for the mirrors
17:50 < netrunner> hm ... that's the prog I was looking for today :)
17:52 < mnemoc> rxr: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/savannah/cvs/straw-cvs-latest.tar.gz as 0.21.2-2003-12-15 ?
17:54 < netrunner> mnemoc: I just fetched that and it's content's look odd, maybe one has to run a command on it? lot's of files ending in ,v
17:54 < netrunner> mnemoc: maybe we repackage the contents of the cvs-latest thing as a nicer .tar.bz2 with the name you mentioned.
17:55 < mnemoc> ,v ?? they tar the CVSROOT??
17:55 < rxr> I mailed jsaw to send the file if available ..
17:56 < mnemoc> can we know if he has an 'uncompromised' tarball?
18:02 < rxr> you can review it - but I guess most files on the site are not touched - and this newsreader (?) should not be the most attractive thing on the side
18:02 < mnemoc> =)
18:03 < daja77> that would be gcc ...
18:08 < netrunner> rxr: it displays rss newsfeeds :)
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18:58 < rxr> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/ftp/software/rockplug/rockplug-0.0.5.tar.bz2
18:59 < rxr> ^- in the case someone wants to review it ...
19:00 * blindcoder back
19:03 < rxr> blindcoder: can you test your serial cable with the above rockplug ?
19:03 < blindcoder> do I have tore install anything beside rockplug?
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19:04 < SMP> blindcoder: the correct kernel module
19:04 < blindcoder> just wanted to update :)
19:04 < blindcoder> the module is here, the device works already
19:05 * daja77 now building hostap to get his wlan card running >_<
19:06 < rxr> ok - cu later
19:06 < blindcoder> okay, just waiting for some maps to finish downloading then trying
19:08 < SMP> ok, just send isomd5 diff to rlml
19:08 < SMP> s,send,sent,
19:09 < mnemoc> =)
19:14 < rxr> ok - cu later
19:15 < blindcoder> rxr: WEE! works :)
19:17 < daja77> damn
19:18 < mnemoc> daja77: hostap didn't work?
19:19 < daja77> atm not
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19:35 < cchamilt> hello
19:35 < tcr> hi cchamilt
19:35 < daja77> hi cchamilt 
19:36 < cchamilt> hmm, md5 code in rock.  I like that.
19:36 < cchamilt> I hope smp's stuff works and gets put in.
19:38 < SMP> well, I might be wrong, but it works just great
19:39 < cchamilt> Now to add md5sum to bootdisks initrd and then have linuxrc find its own iso in cdroms for a my user friendly system.
19:39 * blindcoder gone to RotK
19:39 < cchamilt> Of course that does take a while to confirm doesnt it?
19:39 < tcr> have phun blindcoder
19:39 < cchamilt> cya blindy
19:40 < cchamilt> what would be the best way to 'find' a cd in the cdroms.  Just look for a file?
19:40 < tcr> blindcoder, the trip will be worthwhile :)
19:41 < tcr> Isn't that done already?
19:41 < daja77> mnemoc: hah found out why, this is no prismII based card as expected but ti based *grml*
19:41 < cchamilt> No, it is still a manual selection last time I checked.
19:42 < tcr> cchamilt, hmm there's no verification whether the cd in the drive is the correct one?
19:42 < mnemoc> daja77: TI sucks :(
19:42 < cchamilt> I hacked it once to mount cdrom0-? and succeed on successfully untaring the install tarball.
19:43 < daja77> yeah but how the heck should i know that one of the 650 cards is not prismII
19:43 < cchamilt> If it ran out of cdroms, then it would prompt like it does now.
19:43 < daja77> maybe i sell it after 20c3
19:43 < daja77> experiencing the true pain before that event ^^
19:44 < cchamilt> It would boot ANY rock iso that way.  However, maybe it should check for versions too.
19:45 < cchamilt> I think large/small install should be a lilo option anyway, all other distros put things like that there.
19:46 < cchamilt> Remind me again why we use checksums and not md5sums for package verification?
19:47 < tcr> Quicker?
19:47 < SMP> cchamilt: hysterical raisins?
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19:48 < cchamilt> I thought so, now if we can get general md5 ops in rock as c, this should be doable right?
19:48 < daja77> some nice guy borrows me his prism3 based card for congress
19:49 < SMP> cchamilt: just s/cksum/md5sum/g over the code
19:49 < cchamilt> I got some addtron prisms, but they dont work with a linksys router...
19:49 * daja77 off to party now
19:49 < cchamilt> cya daja
19:50 < cchamilt> Would our md5sums match posted sums from maintainers?
19:50 < SMP> cchamilt: no, we cksum the uncompressed tar
19:51 < cchamilt> that's what I thought. hmm.
19:51 < cchamilt> why do we do that instead of checksum it before the bz2 conversion?
19:52 < cchamilt> oh, so we can later derive the same checksum...
19:52 < mnemoc> cchamilt: because we mirror original finals, not tgz
19:52 < mnemoc> bz2*
19:52 < mnemoc> files*
19:52 < mnemoc> aaarg... i can't breath... to hot here
19:52 < cchamilt> heh
19:54 < cchamilt> my server got all flaky again last week for a few days, and now it seems ok again.  I think it is spamd, which is actually having problems due to perl5 being flaky on the system.
19:56 < cchamilt> it seems to hang open sockets which loads exim's exiscan down and then locks up receiving mail.  Then after it uses up enough resources, I notice when imap no longer can make new connections.
19:56 < cchamilt> So I lose about 6 hours of smtp before responding...
19:57 < mnemoc> ehmm
20:09 < rolla_> re
20:09 < cchamilt> hi rolla
20:10 < rolla_> :)
20:10 * rolla_ just got done seeing LoTR ROTK
20:10 < cchamilt> jocelyn and i will do that saturday.
20:11 < rolla_> :)
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20:11 < cchamilt> was it good?
20:11 < rolla> yeah
20:12 < rolla> just 3+ hours in one spot makes me hurt :)
20:13 < cchamilt> yep, i am actually dreading that. long movies are bad that way.
20:18 < netrunner> hahaha, in morrowind you just pull up the console, click on your enemy, enter 'sethealth 0' and he dies :)
20:19 < netrunner> that's a game with features for coders :)
20:20 < cchamilt> used to love finding bugs in elderscrolls. but not all of the dungeons were finishable.
20:21 < cchamilt> they were never known for being good codesr.
20:21 < netrunner> that game seems to be rather old? just started to play it.
20:22 < cchamilt> morrowind is about a year old.  there are expansions for it i think.
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20:22 < cchamilt> it plays on winex finally i have heard.
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23:02 < mnemoc> *yawn*
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23:42 < rxr> re
23:42 < rxr> shit
23:42 < rxr> qt-3.2.3 does compile on x86
23:43 < rxr> damn - there is a really freaky bug in qt - or the GNU toolchain - that produces really ugly - not really debuganle - segfaults on PowerPC ... :-(((((
23:46 < mnemoc> ehm
23:47 < rxr> yeah?
23:51 < mnemoc> way can a released version of something build on ppc and not in x86?
23:51 < mnemoc> why*
23:52 < mnemoc> btw, how are you rxr?
23:53 < rxr> good
23:53 < rxr> it is the other way round 
23:53 < rxr> it builds on x86 and does not on PPC
23:53 < rxr> Why?
23:54 < rxr> 1. works by accident on x86 (maybe some little endian issue or whatever)
23:54 < mnemoc> why what?
23:54 < mnemoc> ok
23:54 < rxr> 2. works on x86 because of implementation specifc reliance of the Qt code
23:54 < mnemoc> :\
23:54 < rxr> 3. does not work on PowerPC because of GCC GAS or linker bugs ...
23:55 < rxr> I dont't know why - I looked into the segfaults some times now and have not yet got a clue
23:55 < mnemoc> gas segfault or it does on runtime?
23:56 < mnemoc> where is MadTux when i need him :(
23:57 < mnemoc> he ofer me a shell for doing bigger builds :(
23:57 < rxr> runtime
23:57 < rxr> uic seg-faults
23:57 < rxr> during loading some .so
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