--- Log opened Thu Dec 18 00:00:06 2003
00:05 < rxr> mnemoc: maybe we should checkout glibc 2.3.3 CVS TAG and provide a tarball ?
00:06 < mnemoc> glibc-devel ?
00:06 < mnemoc> or glibc23?
00:06 < rxr> mnemoc: ?
00:06 < rxr> nah glibc23
00:06 < rxr> with a test first
00:06 < rxr> maybe it fixes my qt dynamic linker crashes ;-)
00:07 < mnemoc> apropos, why are we 'supporting' glibc22 if we need to update to an shanpshot of it to build the pacakges?
00:08 < rxr> hm ?
00:08 < mnemoc> i'll build a minimal with glibc-HEAD
00:09 < mnemoc> why are we supporintg glibc22 if nothing will build with it?
00:09 < rxr> "nothing"?
00:09 < rxr> hm - the glibc people need to release more often
00:09 < mnemoc> only basic builds
00:10 < mnemoc> ouch.. lot of patches inside base/glibc23 :(
00:12 < rxr> ah yes - I remember briefly ...
00:14 < mnemoc> when i checkout for -D $d means date<$d or date<=$d ?
00:14 < rxr> mnemoc: don't know
00:15 < rxr> we shoudl use the exact tag
00:15 < rxr> and we should use a tarball I put on a server
00:16 < mnemoc> i need to choose a date, 2003-12-16 ?
00:16 < mnemoc> (the last complete day)
00:20 < rxr> hm
00:20 < rxr> there is no 2.3.3 tag (according to the CVS Web of them)
00:20 < rxr> those glibc people have some problems ...
00:22 < mnemoc> they have :)
00:23 < mnemoc> 2.3.3 does not exists, in any form
00:24 < rxr> there is a mandrake rpm
00:24 < mnemoc> every distro has it's pacakge
00:24 < mnemoc> but there is no taged version, then the 'date' was chosen randomly
00:27 < mnemoc> do you want to use mandrake's choosen date?
00:27 < holyolli>  n8
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00:29 < rxr> mnemoc: the gentoo "zombies" only have a 2.3.3-pre s.th. they use a 2.3.2 tarball and apply a monster patch
00:29 < rxr> mnemoc: nah - not mdk - this was just an example
00:31 < mnemoc> CVS pserver anoncvs@sources.redhat.com:/cvs/glibc -D 2003-12-16 libc/
00:31 < mnemoc> was a nice day without much activity :)
00:32 < rxr> but hasn't it a post 2.3.3 version coded into the source ?
00:34 < mnemoc> i'll grep after checkout
00:35 < mnemoc> google only found it on the ML, not on cvsweb
00:37 < mnemoc> 2003-12-01  Automatic
00:37 < mnemoc>         * version.h (VERSION): Bump to 2.3.3.
00:38 < rxr> yes - I saw s.th. like this days ago - in the mail archive or on the net ...
00:39 < rxr> strange world nowadays ...
00:41 < mnemoc> should i abort the checkout and use that date instead?
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00:45 < rxr> mnemoc: hm - yhour choise ...
00:47 < mnemoc> 12-16 is more fixed than 12-1, and 12-1 is just another fix not a tag
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01:04 < rxr> but maybe more bugs - just like in a stone
01:04 < rxr> so maybe I finally repaired the ink-tank system of my ink-jet printer
01:04 < rxr> damn crap
01:04 < rxr> the next printer is a color laser one ...
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01:05 < mnemoc> rxr: are you ink-ed? ;)
01:07 < rxr> only some fingers ...
01:12 < daja77> re
01:12 < daja77> away
01:12 < daja77> d'oh
01:13 < mnemoc> hm
01:14 < daja77> forgot the /
01:16 < mnemoc> then..  wb daja77  :)
01:16 < daja77> thx mnemoc 
01:22 < rxr> yeah
01:22 < rxr> full color comes out of my damn printer
01:22 < daja77> ha you are fighting with hw as well?
01:23 < rxr> yes
01:23 < rxr> this 6 (?) year old Epson Stylus Color 600 wanted to cheat me
01:23 < rxr> first it stopped printng cyan and then magenta
01:24 < rxr> I have big ink tanks outside of the printer
01:24 < rxr> and I want to use it some more years (?)
01:24 * daja77 fighting again with this stupid wlan card
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01:27 < rxr> a linux support or binary only "driver" one ?
01:28 < mnemoc> TI chipset :\
01:28 < daja77> mixed sort, i need the windows firmware binary, the driver is a linux one
01:28 < daja77> still sucks
01:29 < daja77> no linuxant stuff though
01:29 < mnemoc> firmware s.th is just a license restriction
01:29 < daja77> i was cheated there are lots of prismII based cards which have similar names >_<
01:30 < daja77> as the readme states: CARD COMPATIBILITY (aka "OUCH!!") 
01:30 < daja77> ...
01:30 < rxr> yes I got thru this selection trouble when I bought my first one, too
01:30 < daja77> this is a messed up market like for scanners
01:32 < mnemoc> what happened to esden? where is him?
01:33 < rxr> nah scanner are not that bad
01:34 < rxr> w-lan cars are much worse
01:34 < rxr> video (not graphic) cards is another messy field
01:35 < daja77> had no luck with scanners
01:35 < daja77> but ack wlan is much worse
01:35 < daja77> nice the acx driver doesn't compile, how can one release such crap
01:36 < daja77> fortunetly someone borrowed me a prism3 based card for 20c3
01:37 < daja77> syntax errors ...
01:41 < daja77> ok fixed ...
01:49 < mnemoc> daja77: and?
01:50 < daja77> driver doesn't load: irq not found ...
01:51 < daja77> irq 0 not found
01:51 < mnemoc> o_O
01:51 < daja77> maybe a pcmcia controller problem 
01:51 < daja77> sucks
01:55 < mnemoc> don't you have dual-boot to test it on windows?
01:56 * daja77 has no windows at all
01:57 < daja77> there are binary only drivers too
02:05 < mnemoc> rxr: did you read the thread about i2c-dev.h posted on the ML by "Alan J. Wylie"?
02:06 < mnemoc> they consiently broke kernel's i2c.h to avoid userspace programs to use it :\
02:11 < daja77> wow this guy who wrote this acx100 stuff is really pissed by dlink
02:11 < rxr> re
02:11 < rxr> daja77: nice comments in the source ?
02:12 < daja77> in the readme, mom
02:13 < daja77> But the worst offender is D-Link: they have "DWL-650" and "DWL-650+".
02:13 < daja77> "DWL-650+" is simply an improved version of the "DWL-650", right?
02:13 < daja77> WRONG!
02:13 < daja77> The standard versions use Prism2.5, whereas the "+" versions use ACX100
02:13 < daja77> chipset. Good luck in finding a (correct) driver!!
02:13 < daja77> And it's even WORSE: I just found out that there is some newer
02:13 < daja77> version of the "DWL-650" out that also contains the ACX100
02:13 < daja77> (it uses the same hardware as the "+" versions).
02:13 < daja77> Not to mention that D-Link now uses the DWL*650* naming for about 6 or 7
02:13 < mnemoc> we could do in rl.net an 'space' for patched patches not included on rl :\
02:13 < daja77> different products!
02:14 < daja77> yeah thought about that, for my license critical patches
02:14 < daja77> This BRAINDEAD STUPIDITY in device naming easily entitles D-Link
02:14 < daja77> for the "Most Braindead Hardware Vendor 2003" award. And of course
02:14 < daja77> they were also talking about developing another Linux driver for some time,
02:14 < daja77> without any results (although I guess that's because they wanted to
02:14 < daja77> develop it, but were not allowed to, unfortunately, so it's understandable).
02:14 < daja77> this could be funny if it weren't that sad
02:15 < daja77> adding dlink to shopping blacklist :(
02:15 < rxr> mnemoc: for what kind of patchesß
02:16 < mnemoc> the scsi thing you did, the wifi patches daja had patched to be able to test them, etc...
02:16 < mnemoc> there is lot of work 'sleeping' in your harddrives
02:17 < daja77> the flash-plugin package ...
02:17 * mnemoc thinks rl.net is a good place to 'host' them
02:18 < daja77> i'd prefer to have them on a space of my own, cos even those things have to be maintained
02:19 < daja77> and ppl should know who made the patches to avoid flooding the chan or ml with this crap
02:19 < mnemoc> :(
02:20 < daja77> .oO place of my own could be a personal page on rl.net e.g.
02:21 < mnemoc> no 'index' to guide ppl to the right personal page? just a personal page?
02:21 < daja77> with index if you like
02:22 < rxr> mnemoc: my useful stuff is sorted into my pages ...
02:23 < mnemoc> RL is a very educative project, there is *lot* of knowledge we can share... pros and cons of $foo, ...
02:23 < rxr> mnemoc: valueable stuff is either in ROCK - or if not polished enought - on other sides
02:23 < rxr> but yes - we could open a non-distributeable-personal-use-only repository or so ...
02:23 < rxr> but now I need sleep - cu
02:23 < mnemoc> :) gn8 rxre
02:24 < daja77> n8 rxr
02:26 * daja77 angry
02:26 < mnemoc> with dlink?
02:30 < daja77> yes
02:31 * mnemoc trying to build a minimal with glibc23-2.3.3-HEAD :\
02:31 * daja77 off to bed cu
02:31 < rxr> mnemoc: I wish you success 
02:31 < rxr> n8 all
02:31 < daja77> n8 rxr
02:31 < mnemoc> n8 rxr, daja77 
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04:03 < MadTux> moin.
04:04 < mnemoc> moin LostTux
04:04 < MadTux> I've been here all this days mnemoc.. just not at the same time you were :)
04:04 < MadTux> mnemoc: how are ya? and how did you go on that work delivery last weeke?
04:05 < mnemoc> new deadline ;)
04:05 < MadTux> mm... so you had luck :)
04:06 < mnemoc> =)
04:06 < mnemoc> do you understand -MD -MT args of gcc?
04:07 < MadTux> a bit.
04:07 < MadTux> why?
04:08 < mnemoc> i'm addapting glibc23 patches for 2.3.3-HEAD
04:08 < MadTux> oh :)
04:08 * MadTux doing commercial stuff tonight. got new contracts :)
04:09 < mnemoc> there is one patch gcc2_is_ok_for_your_mamma.patch which replace -MD with some sed code, but not in all rules of Makerules
04:09 < mnemoc> MadTux: congrats
04:10 < MadTux> mmm... why the replace anyways?
04:10 < MadTux> mnemoc: thanks :)
04:10 < mnemoc> for makeing it build with gcc-2.95
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04:14 < MadTux> mnemoc: ah okis. So anyways what's ur problem?
04:14 < MadTux> hi dsoul :)
04:14 < mnemoc> i wonder if you want to addapt that one :)
04:15 < MadTux> hehehe...
04:15 < mnemoc> np
04:15 < MadTux> mnemoc: i can try yes, but would have to wait 1 or 2 days
04:15 < MadTux> I'm currently very busy doing some work.
04:15 < mnemoc> as it is for 2.95 i'll try a minimal without that damn patch
04:16 < mnemoc> don't worry ;)
04:16 < mnemoc> how is your cluster? frozen?
04:16 < MadTux> dsoul: Jak sie masz?
04:17 < MadTux> mnemoc: cluster.. nearly finished, but then again right now i am focusing all my time on finishing my current work, no much time available to deliver
04:18 < mnemoc> Jak sie masz? <--- ???
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04:33 < MadTux> mnemoc: that means how are you in polish
04:33 < mnemoc> ok :\
04:33 < MadTux> mnemoc: what? :)
04:34 < MadTux> mnemoc: i will greet you in ur mother language next time if you want :)
04:34 < mnemoc> italian is easy, but... polish?
04:35 < MadTux> mnemoc: well esden have helped me a bit
04:35 < MadTux> :)
04:36 < mnemoc> btw, where is esden?
04:37 < MadTux> mnemoc:  busy playing with fedora and doing uni tesis..
04:38 < mnemoc> more fedora or more tesis? ;)
04:38 < MadTux> dunno honestly
04:39 < MadTux> Oh God, one of my tasks deadline just changed..
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04:39 < MadTux> have to deliver it tonigh :/
04:40 < mnemoc> ehm
04:40 < mnemoc> bye MadTux 
04:40 < MadTux> how long will you be online?
04:40 < mnemoc> one hour
04:40 < MadTux> grrr...
04:40 < mnemoc> tomorrow morning here as usual ;)
04:40 < MadTux> cu in a few days :(
04:40 < mnemoc> :(
04:41 < MadTux> maybe tomorrow but can't promisse anything
04:41 < mnemoc> good luck MadTux 
04:41 < MadTux> mailme the patch to adapt
04:41 < MadTux> thanks mnemocy
04:41 < mnemoc> ;)
05:26 < Aard> 2.6 final is out.
05:27 < MadTux> WEEE!!!!!!!!
05:27 < MadTux> :)
05:28 < mnemoc> :)
05:28 < mnemoc> MadTux: shut up and code 
05:28 < mnemoc> :)
05:28 < MadTux> would be great to hear something like ROCK 2.0-Final out :)
05:29 < mnemoc> like?
05:29 < MadTux> mnemoc: Nie zawracaj mi g|owy, nie widzisz, ze jestem zajety ?
05:29 < Aard> YFJI: rock 2.0 final is out.
05:29 < MadTux> Aard:  hehe 
05:29 < Aard> ooops, my space-time-continuum is broken, sorry.
05:29 < mnemoc> rock-20-final will win the vaporware awards 2003
05:30 < mnemoc> MadTux: polish again?
05:31 < MadTux> mnemoc: yeah, want treanslation
05:31 < mnemoc> please :(
05:31 < MadTux> translation for mnemoc: don't disturb me, don't you see I'm busy ?
05:31 < MadTux> :P
05:31 < MadTux> jk :P
05:33 < mnemoc> :D
05:38 < mnemoc> aaaarg
05:38 < mnemoc> configure: error: CFI directive support in assembler is required
06:26 < mnemoc> wtf is nptl?? what happend to *classic* pthreads??? /me is hating these guys
06:28 < MadTux> hahaha
06:28 < MadTux> i though youd be around for only one more hour 
06:29 < mnemoc> ehm
06:29 < mnemoc> :(
06:29 < MadTux> its fine
06:29 < mnemoc> didn't i said that 1 hour ago? ;)
06:29 < MadTux> that was 2 hours ago i think :)
06:30 < MadTux> but doesn't matter its nice to see you still around :)
06:30 < mnemoc> =)
06:34 < mnemoc> i'll go to bed.. this glibc233 doesn't look nice
06:34 < Aard> mnemoc: without building 2.6 final ;)
06:34 < MadTux> no way!
06:34 < MadTux> CODE damn it
06:35 < mnemoc> 2.6 is building :)
06:35 < MadTux> Aard: you really are happy about the release aren't you ?
06:35 < mnemoc> but i took 4 hours in that
06:35 < Aard> MadTux: yes. currently 2 machines running 2.6.0, one building
06:35 * mnemoc plan to use 2.4 for a long time
06:36 < MadTux> mnemoc: bahh!
06:36 < MadTux> buuu!!
06:36 * Aard uses 2.5 since 2.5.52
06:37 < mnemoc> too fat for me
06:37 < MadTux> yeah yeah
06:38 < Aard> mnemoc: 2.4? then you should upgrade
06:38 < mnemoc> 2.4.23 is just fine ;)
06:39 * MadTux wonders if 2.6 is already on dietlinux
06:39 < mnemoc> no real reason to move to a .0 very overloaded kernel
06:39 < mnemoc> maybe to 2.6.10 
06:40 < mnemoc> there is too much crap on it
06:40 < Aard> MadTux: next release to congress, featuring 2.6.0
06:40 < MadTux> mm...
06:40 < MadTux> Aard: excellent
06:49 < mnemoc> gn8 Aard, BusyTux
06:49 < MadTux> oyasumi mnemoc
06:49 < Aard> MadTux: n8
06:49 < MadTux> Aard: I'm not off..
06:50 < Aard> MadTux: was that a curse?
06:50 < mnemoc> :)
06:50 < MadTux> Aard: it was /me saying bye in jap :)
06:50 < Aard> MadTux: sorry, my nick completion thinks it has artificial intelligence
06:50 < MadTux> Aard: but if i tell mnemoc: chaoling con pollo. <- that is a curse
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07:45 < blindcoder> moin
07:45 < Aard> moin
07:46 < MadTux> hi blindy
07:47 < blindcoder> MadTux: pcmcia-cs, subversion-static and raidtools fails with yesterdays HEAD + your minimal-adaptions
07:47 < MadTux> i did spected both pcmcia and raidtools
07:47 < MadTux> can i have the .err files please
07:48 < blindcoder> sure, just a moment
07:48 < blindcoder> http://scavenger.homeip.net/~blindcoder/rocklinux/errlist.tar.bz2
07:49 < MadTux> danke Blindpire :)
07:55 < blindcoder> :)
08:01 * blindcoder now installing Request Tracker on his poor Laptop
08:01 < MadTux> poor laptop.... grrrrr posser!
08:25 < blindcoder> MUAHAHA! I love huebi :)
08:25 < MadTux> blindy?
08:28 < blindcoder> for his (ssh+cat)^n=scp equation where n is the number of machines you have to go through :)
08:28 < MadTux> ah :)
08:28 * MadTux misses to see huebi around
08:28 < blindcoder> something like:
08:29 < blindcoder> cat $bigfile | ssh machine1 "cat - | ssh machine2 ' cat - >$bigfile'"
08:29 < blindcoder> I just did it the other way round :)
08:29 < blindcoder> brb
08:30 < MadTux> k.
08:51 < blindcoder> back
09:51 < MadTux> re blindy
09:55 < blindcoder> thx
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10:28 < blindcoder> IRC with root == _baaad_
10:31 < rxr> re
10:32 < blindcoder> moin rxr
10:32 < MadTux> hi rxr
10:34 < blindcoder> rxr: the new rockplug work like a charm with my USB2Serial Converter ^^
10:37 < rxr> good
10:37 < rxr> cu all later
10:37 < blindcoder> okay, bye
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11:59 < blindcoder> WEE! mod_hardware and mod_rocplug both write different data to the same file
12:06 * blindcoder lunch
12:39 < MadTux> Oh my God sun is nearly out.
12:40 < MadTux> cu at dark.
12:40 * MadTux runs home
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13:16 < mnemoc> re
13:17 * blindcoder back
13:21 < mnemoc> hi blindcoder 
13:26 * blindcoder sleepy
13:26 < blindcoder> I don't have motivation to do anything today...
13:28 < mnemoc> you can go back to bed :)
13:36 < blindcoder> nah, still at work and have to attend christmas-party withcompany today >_<
13:36 < mnemoc> have fun
13:37 < blindcoder> thanks :/
13:37 < blindcoder> And after that I have to clean my lapto... 250 perl-modules lying around and will be used only today *grmpf*
13:38 < mnemoc> o_O
13:40 < blindcoder> request tracker
13:40 < blindcoder> a trouble ticket system that just rocks, but needs several hundrer perl-modules
13:47 < blindcoder> I need to present that to my boss today because we need one for our growing number of customers :)
13:49 < mnemoc> good :)
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14:09 < blindcoder> Hmmm I think I'm busy until 20C3
14:09 < blindcoder> Just found a project which I wnat to finish until then (next to 20C3ISO)
14:16 < fake> ah, 2.6.0 is out...
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14:22 < daja77> moin
14:23 < fake> hi daja77 
14:24 < daja77> hey fake :)
14:25 < cytrinox`-> moin
14:25 < daja77> fake: do you come to 20c3?
14:26 < fake> of course i will
14:26 < fake> as will you, right?
14:26 < daja77> yep
14:28 < fake> ./scripts/Create-ISO: line 181: /usr/bin/mkisofs: Argument list too long
14:28 < fake> uh.
14:28 < fake> no dvd, then...
14:30 < blindcoder> it worked fine here last time
14:30 < blindcoder> how did you get 32kB into your command line?
14:30 < daja77> erhm argumentlist too long != iso too long
14:30 < blindcoder> is your rock-src somewhere in /usr/src/mysources/fake/development/rocklinux-2.0/2003/december/.../.../.../
14:31 < fake> no
14:32 < fake>  /rock/trunk
14:32 < blindcoder> worst case just recompile glibc and kernel to support more than 32kB command lines :D
14:33 < fake> ;P
14:33 < fake> how can i tell ide-scsi module which drive to scsi-emulate when load as module?
14:33 < blindcoder> what did you build and what did you pass to Create-ISO?
14:40 < fake> i built rc4 completely and passws -size 4700 to create-iso
14:40 < fake> is it possible to tell the ide-scsi module on-the-fly which drives to use?
14:40 < blindcoder> -size 4489 is corre
14:41 < blindcoder> it is, but I don't know how :P
14:41 < blindcoder> consule linux/Documentation/
14:41 < fake> (that doesn't matter, it's not this big anyways)
14:42 < fake> hm...
14:53 < blindcoder> fake: could you -x Create-ISO and mail me that line or the complete output?
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16:00 < daja77> http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag/2004/service/xmas.html?18
16:03 < fake> ah, fine. my ipfw rules work.
16:03 < fake> .oO( for what resolution is that webpage?)
16:04 < daja77> erh dunno :)
16:04 < daja77> just good that they took my writing
16:04 < fake> 1600x1200?
16:04 < mnemoc> more than that
16:05 < daja77> should work well with that :))
16:05 < fake> yeah, free rocklinux ad on the bottom ;)
16:05 < daja77> hehe
16:05 < daja77> tuxracer package will be done soon
16:05 < mnemoc> long parragraphs with no-wrap style attribute
16:05 < daja77> hey i know that the page sucks, not my project
16:06 < mnemoc> cut your paragraphs :)
16:06 < mnemoc> or tell them to remove the no-wrap ;-)
16:08 < daja77> poor mnemoc has to read german again
16:11 < mnemoc> i'll have to study it soon :(
16:12 < mnemoc> ehm... the no-wrap was instroduced by the google's translator :|
16:12 < daja77> :)
16:15 < mnemoc> 1600x1200 is ok now :(
16:16 < daja77> ...
16:17 < Aard> moin
16:17 < daja77> hi Aard 
16:19 < mnemoc> moin Aard 
16:20 < daja77> Aard: will you be there at 20c3?
16:21 < Aard> daja77: jup.
16:22 < Aard> arriving 26.12, leavnig 30.12
16:22 < daja77> cool
16:22 < daja77> so we could have a walk in berlin too
16:32 < Aard> jup
16:33 < daja77> sounds cool
16:38 * fake looked it up once
16:38 < fake> <td nowrap> is illegal according to html 
16:38 < fake> w3c
16:38 < fake> that's why konqueror isn't honoring it
16:38 < daja77> fake using kde O_o
16:39 < fake> .... windowmaker sucks from time to time.
16:40 < fake> (my just burnt -rc4-cd didn't boot?)
16:40 < mnemoc> firebird is pretty cool
16:41 < daja77> rc4 lol, only have that on my granny's pc now
16:44 * fake started the build on monday
16:44 < fake> (with downloads...)
16:46 * daja77 installing win98 atm
16:46 * fake os/2 warp 3
16:46 < daja77> nice
16:47 < fake> like all these brainfscked ATMs
16:48 < mnemoc> daja77: you installing windows?
16:48 < daja77> yep at work
16:48 < fake> do you feel bad?
16:49 < daja77> and it sucks
16:49 < mnemoc> why 98?
16:49 < daja77> yeah, this old crap system on a new pc, it knows almost no device
16:49 * fake once let win98 face 1 Gig of RAM and 100 G hd - it was funny.
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17:07 * netrunne1 looking for beos ... 
17:07 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner
17:08 < daja77> this sucks
17:08 < daja77> os/2 install was more fun, want to switch with fake 
17:09 < Aard> daja77: one of my boxes here ist still running warp 3 ;)
17:09 < daja77> :)
17:19 * mnemoc never installes os/2
17:19 < mnemoc> installed*
17:19 < daja77> don't worry
17:26 < netrunner> argl. my build server dissapeared from my network :/
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17:35 * netrunner created avm/snownews
17:35 < daja77> netrunner could be confused with an isdn manufacturer
17:40 < daja77> d'oh my rtrock build is beta4
17:52 < netrunner> daja77: what tells you it's not me who made those parts? ;)
17:53 * netrunner sold his name for $$$ to a company to let them take part on his glory
17:54 < daja77> in that case i'd have to blacklist them :)
17:56 * fake running -rc4
17:56 < fake> nice.
17:57 < daja77> yep doin rtrock build on trunk is tricky
17:59 < esden> hi all
17:59 < daja77> 18:00 < Zentaur> Are you having homosexual thoughts? Don't resist! Take look at
17:59 < daja77>                  some hot lesbian man on man action here
17:59 < daja77> hi esden!
17:59 < esden> fake: you wanted to send me something ;)
17:59 < esden> hi daja77 ;)
17:59 < daja77> changed your mind?
18:00 < esden> ?
18:01 * daja77 just collecting names of ppl to meet on 20c3
18:01 < esden> daja77: not really ... I probably will skip this years congress ... but try to get there next year
18:01 < daja77> ok
18:04 * daja77 watching rtrock install
18:10 < fake> esden: chill.... 
18:10 * daja77 wondering if fake will be a bit longer here 
18:11 < fake> where here?
18:11 < daja77> yep
18:12 * fake fought for a few days 'off'
18:12 < daja77> sounds great
18:20 < esden> fake: I am chilled ... and in very good mood ;)
18:20 < esden> even though I have only slept two hours ;)
18:29 < daja77> fefe announced that we might require our own network equipment
18:29 < daja77> any plans for that?
18:31 < esden> ok ... I am off
18:31 < esden> cu guy
18:31 < esden> s
18:31 < daja77> cu esden 
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18:48 < holyolli> moin
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19:01 < freed> hi
19:02 < holyolli> hi freed
19:02 < freed> hi
19:07 < freed> wie bekomm ich denn grub als bootloader auf ne cd? irgendwie klappt das bei mir nicht
19:08 < freed> hat jemand ein image parat?
19:09 < holyolli> freed: ich habe nur ein image von der normalen install-cd fuer x86...und die meisten auf diesem channel koennen kein deutsch ;-)
19:09 < freed> ich will ja nur booten und dann die grub-shell vor mir haben
19:09 < freed> geht das damit?
19:10 < freed> hab hier gerade ein notebook vor mir welches kein diskettenlaufwerk mehr hat
19:10 < mnemoc> i'm the only bastard don't understand german :(
19:10 < holyolli> mnemoc: i already told him that not everybody can understand german ;)
19:11 < freed> sorry, my english is not so good
19:11 < mnemoc> don't worry :) holyolli will help you
19:11 < holyolli> freed: du muesstest mit grub-install das auch einfach auf cd installieren koennen
19:13 < holyolli> freed: welche grub-version hast du denn?
19:13 < holyolli> weil es gibt ein patch, damit du auch von cd booten kannst
19:13 < freed> oki
19:14 < holyolli> freed: wenn das nicht klappt, machst du einfach eine bootdisk (als image) und brennst das dann als bootable-cd
19:14 < holyolli> das sollte auf jeden fall klappen
19:14 < holyolli> mnemoc: it's about installing grub on a cdrom in order to have a grub-menu/-shell on a bootable cd
19:15 < mnemoc> holyolli: thanks :) i have babelfish on my side ;)
19:15 < holyolli> *g*
19:16 < holyolli> mnemoc: esta muy bien y muy elegante ;-)
19:16 < holyolli> btw. has anybody seen madtux the last day?
19:17 < mnemoc> i saw him last night
19:17 < mnemoc> we has a new/urgent job
19:19 < holyolli> mnemoc: hm. do you know anything about his visit to .de?
19:19 < mnemoc> he said he will go
19:19 < holyolli> cool!
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20:44 < daja77> re
20:45 < holyolli> moin daja77
20:45 < daja77> hi holyolli 
20:47 < holyolli> has anybody ever tried to update the glibc-package on a running system?
20:48 * daja77 not
20:48 < holyolli> hm. /me has the problem of a f***ed up glibc on his alpha...and with that the rock-build doesn't work
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21:03 < tcr> moin all
21:03 < holyolli> moin tcr
21:05 < tcr> hi holyolli, how are you?
21:05 < holyolli> tcr: hm. "es geht so". i have my final exam in 2 weeks...
21:06 < tcr> exams in what?
21:06 < tcr> Well at least you don't feel sick as I do :/ 
21:07 < holyolli> tcr: the finishing exam of my training ("ausbildung")
21:07 < holyolli> tcr: oh...y are you sick?
21:07 < tcr> holyolli, Yeah... somewhat, I tend to get a sore throat when it's going to be cold outside
21:08 < holyolli> tcr: the exams are about all, what we did the last 2 years...
21:08 < holyolli> tcr: get healthy until ccc! ;-)
21:08 < tcr> I won't come, I'm afraid
21:08 < tcr> Weren't you in the US some months ago?
21:09 < holyolli> tcr: that's right... it was the practical part of my training...
21:09 < holyolli> <-- is trying to move old metal through the air ;-)
21:10 < tcr> holyolli, ? how should I interpreate that?
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21:42 < LocalHero> Hi all
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22:03 < Aard> <3fe1c1f6@fefe.de>
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22:07 < tcr> re all
22:07 < daja77> Aard: the call for hw?
22:10 < Aard> daja77: jup.
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22:16 < daja77> bad thing
22:20 < Aard> daja77: chaos rulez ;)
22:20 < daja77> ;)
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22:58 * daja77 np monkey island theme
23:00 < holyolli> re
23:07 < daja77> wb
23:12 < mnemoc> re *
23:12 < daja77> wb
23:13 * daja77 just got monkey island I + II, scummvw is really nice
23:13 < holyolli> is it for free?
23:14 < daja77> scummvm yes, but you need the original gamne files
23:14 < daja77> monkey island on linux, on a tft starnge feeling
23:15 < holyolli> *g*
23:15 < Robe_> hm.
23:16 < Robe_> does sound work?
23:17 < daja77> yes, that's the best part
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23:21 < Aard> daja77: played loom just a few weeks ago. happy memories... ;)
23:21 < daja77> yep have loom too, + manian mansion and zak mckracken
23:22 < Aard> yep, it's really cool that maniac works now :))
23:22 < daja77> never played that actually, only day of the tentacle 
23:24 < daja77> add to todo: put scummvm and lucasarts games on 20c3 laptop
23:24 < Aard> daja77: coolest lucas arts game ever ;)
23:24 < daja77> ;)
23:25 * Aard has scummvm and games ready
23:25 < Aard> btw, did you have a look at the games released for free with the last release?
23:25 < daja77> hm?
23:28 < Aard> daja77: revolution supported the scummvm team to include support for `beneath a seel sky', and made the gamefiles itself freeware with the scummvm release
23:28 < Aard> you can download it from revolutions webserver
23:28 < daja77> ah sounds nice
23:28 < daja77> no haven't tried it
23:28 < daja77> benath a steel sky was rather lame anyway
23:29 < daja77> sam&max would be cool
23:29 < Aard> they will release another game soon :)
23:29 < Aard> that's lucas arts. I don't expect the current managment to release theit games for free
23:30 < daja77> i know
23:31 < Robe_> nicenicenice
23:31 < Robe_> simon the sorcerer is also scumm based?
23:31 < daja77> yep
23:31 < Aard> daja77: no
23:32 < Aard> scummvm ist not scumm-only anymore
23:32 < daja77> they support simon the sourcerer afaik
23:32 < Aard> daja77: they support it, but it's not scumm
23:33 < Aard> irc was simon the first non-scumm-game supported by scummvm
23:33 < daja77> what is it then?
23:34 < Aard> dunno. read the docs at www.scummvm.org ;)
23:35 < daja77> Dec 12, 2003: ScummVM is Dead, please read this post.
23:35 < daja77> wtf
23:35 < Aard> ad `read the docs'. my boss read some of my documentation and asked some dumb questions. i told him to read the whole paraghraph, whisch solved his problem. he: `it would have been enough to say RTFM' :)
23:35 < Aard> daja77: read the whole post :)
23:35 < daja77> hehe
23:35 < daja77> damn jokes
23:35 < daja77> wanna join their chan?
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