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--- Log opened Thu Dec 18 00:00:06 2003 00:05 < rxr> mnemoc: maybe we should checkout glibc 2.3.3 CVS TAG and provide a tarball ? 00:06 < mnemoc> glibc-devel ? 00:06 < mnemoc> or glibc23? 00:06 < rxr> mnemoc: ? 00:06 < rxr> nah glibc23 00:06 < rxr> with a test first 00:06 < rxr> maybe it fixes my qt dynamic linker crashes ;-) 00:07 < mnemoc> apropos, why are we 'supporting' glibc22 if we need to update to an shanpshot of it to build the pacakges? 00:08 < rxr> hm ? 00:08 < mnemoc> i'll build a minimal with glibc-HEAD 00:09 < mnemoc> why are we supporintg glibc22 if nothing will build with it? 00:09 < rxr> "nothing"? 00:09 < rxr> hm - the glibc people need to release more often 00:09 < mnemoc> only basic builds 00:10 < mnemoc> ouch.. lot of patches inside base/glibc23 :( 00:12 < rxr> ah yes - I remember briefly ... 00:14 < mnemoc> when i checkout for -D $d means date<$d or date<=$d ? 00:14 < rxr> mnemoc: don't know 00:15 < rxr> we shoudl use the exact tag 00:15 < rxr> and we should use a tarball I put on a server 00:16 < mnemoc> i need to choose a date, 2003-12-16 ? 00:16 < mnemoc> (the last complete day) 00:20 < rxr> hm 00:20 < rxr> there is no 2.3.3 tag (according to the CVS Web of them) 00:20 < rxr> those glibc people have some problems ... 00:22 < mnemoc> they have :) 00:23 < mnemoc> 2.3.3 does not exists, in any form 00:24 < rxr> there is a mandrake rpm 00:24 < mnemoc> every distro has it's pacakge 00:24 < mnemoc> but there is no taged version, then the 'date' was chosen randomly 00:27 < mnemoc> do you want to use mandrake's choosen date? 00:27 < holyolli> n8 00:27 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-27-183.reverse.qsc.de] has quit ("Leaving") 00:29 < rxr> mnemoc: the gentoo "zombies" only have a 2.3.3-pre s.th. they use a 2.3.2 tarball and apply a monster patch 00:29 < rxr> mnemoc: nah - not mdk - this was just an example 00:31 < mnemoc> CVS pserver anoncvs@sources.redhat.com:/cvs/glibc -D 2003-12-16 libc/ 00:31 < mnemoc> was a nice day without much activity :) 00:32 < rxr> but hasn't it a post 2.3.3 version coded into the source ? 00:34 < mnemoc> i'll grep after checkout 00:35 < mnemoc> google only found it on the ML, not on cvsweb 00:37 < mnemoc> 2003-12-01 Automatic 00:37 < mnemoc> * version.h (VERSION): Bump to 2.3.3. 00:38 < rxr> yes - I saw s.th. like this days ago - in the mail archive or on the net ... 00:39 < rxr> strange world nowadays ... 00:41 < mnemoc> should i abort the checkout and use that date instead? 00:43 -!- aktnot [ident@233.80-202-65.nextgentel.com] has joined #rocklinux 00:43 -!- aktnot [ident@233.80-202-65.nextgentel.com] has quit (Client Quit) 00:45 < rxr> mnemoc: hm - yhour choise ... 00:47 < mnemoc> 12-16 is more fixed than 12-1, and 12-1 is just another fix not a tag 00:58 -!- neitzsche [~zen@pcp255680pcs.howard01.md.comcast.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:04 < rxr> but maybe more bugs - just like in a stone 01:04 < rxr> so maybe I finally repaired the ink-tank system of my ink-jet printer 01:04 < rxr> damn crap 01:04 < rxr> the next printer is a color laser one ... 01:05 -!- neitzsche [~zen@pcp255680pcs.howard01.md.comcast.net] has left #rocklinux ("But I saved money on car insurance by switching to linux.") 01:05 < mnemoc> rxr: are you ink-ed? ;) 01:07 < rxr> only some fingers ... 01:12 < daja77> re 01:12 < daja77> away 01:12 < daja77> d'oh 01:13 < mnemoc> hm 01:14 < daja77> forgot the / 01:16 < mnemoc> then.. wb daja77 :) 01:16 < daja77> thx mnemoc 01:22 < rxr> yeah 01:22 < rxr> full color comes out of my damn printer 01:22 < daja77> ha you are fighting with hw as well? 01:23 < rxr> yes 01:23 < rxr> this 6 (?) year old Epson Stylus Color 600 wanted to cheat me 01:23 < rxr> first it stopped printng cyan and then magenta 01:24 < rxr> I have big ink tanks outside of the printer 01:24 < rxr> and I want to use it some more years (?) 01:24 * daja77 fighting again with this stupid wlan card 01:27 -!- kasc [~kasc@dsl-213-023-063-130.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01:27 < rxr> a linux support or binary only "driver" one ? 01:28 < mnemoc> TI chipset :\ 01:28 < daja77> mixed sort, i need the windows firmware binary, the driver is a linux one 01:28 < daja77> still sucks 01:29 < daja77> no linuxant stuff though 01:29 < mnemoc> firmware s.th is just a license restriction 01:29 < daja77> i was cheated there are lots of prismII based cards which have similar names >_< 01:30 < daja77> as the readme states: CARD COMPATIBILITY (aka "OUCH!!") 01:30 < daja77> ... 01:30 < rxr> yes I got thru this selection trouble when I bought my first one, too 01:30 < daja77> this is a messed up market like for scanners 01:32 < mnemoc> what happened to esden? where is him? 01:33 < rxr> nah scanner are not that bad 01:34 < rxr> w-lan cars are much worse 01:34 < rxr> video (not graphic) cards is another messy field 01:35 < daja77> had no luck with scanners 01:35 < daja77> but ack wlan is much worse 01:35 < daja77> nice the acx driver doesn't compile, how can one release such crap 01:36 < daja77> fortunetly someone borrowed me a prism3 based card for 20c3 01:37 < daja77> syntax errors ... 01:41 < daja77> ok fixed ... 01:49 < mnemoc> daja77: and? 01:50 < daja77> driver doesn't load: irq not found ... 01:51 < daja77> irq 0 not found 01:51 < mnemoc> o_O 01:51 < daja77> maybe a pcmcia controller problem 01:51 < daja77> sucks 01:55 < mnemoc> don't you have dual-boot to test it on windows? 01:56 * daja77 has no windows at all 01:57 < daja77> there are binary only drivers too 02:05 < mnemoc> rxr: did you read the thread about i2c-dev.h posted on the ML by "Alan J. Wylie"? 02:06 < mnemoc> they consiently broke kernel's i2c.h to avoid userspace programs to use it :\ 02:11 < daja77> wow this guy who wrote this acx100 stuff is really pissed by dlink 02:11 < rxr> re 02:11 < rxr> daja77: nice comments in the source ? 02:12 < daja77> in the readme, mom 02:13 < daja77> But the worst offender is D-Link: they have "DWL-650" and "DWL-650+". 02:13 < daja77> "DWL-650+" is simply an improved version of the "DWL-650", right? 02:13 < daja77> WRONG! 02:13 < daja77> The standard versions use Prism2.5, whereas the "+" versions use ACX100 02:13 < daja77> chipset. Good luck in finding a (correct) driver!! 02:13 < daja77> And it's even WORSE: I just found out that there is some newer 02:13 < daja77> version of the "DWL-650" out that also contains the ACX100 02:13 < daja77> (it uses the same hardware as the "+" versions). 02:13 < daja77> Not to mention that D-Link now uses the DWL*650* naming for about 6 or 7 02:13 < mnemoc> we could do in rl.net an 'space' for patched patches not included on rl :\ 02:13 < daja77> different products! 02:14 < daja77> yeah thought about that, for my license critical patches 02:14 < daja77> This BRAINDEAD STUPIDITY in device naming easily entitles D-Link 02:14 < daja77> for the "Most Braindead Hardware Vendor 2003" award. And of course 02:14 < daja77> they were also talking about developing another Linux driver for some time, 02:14 < daja77> without any results (although I guess that's because they wanted to 02:14 < daja77> develop it, but were not allowed to, unfortunately, so it's understandable). 02:14 < daja77> this could be funny if it weren't that sad 02:15 < daja77> adding dlink to shopping blacklist :( 02:15 < rxr> mnemoc: for what kind of patchesß 02:16 < mnemoc> the scsi thing you did, the wifi patches daja had patched to be able to test them, etc... 02:16 < mnemoc> there is lot of work 'sleeping' in your harddrives 02:17 < daja77> the flash-plugin package ... 02:17 * mnemoc thinks rl.net is a good place to 'host' them 02:18 < daja77> i'd prefer to have them on a space of my own, cos even those things have to be maintained 02:19 < daja77> and ppl should know who made the patches to avoid flooding the chan or ml with this crap 02:19 < mnemoc> :( 02:20 < daja77> .oO place of my own could be a personal page on rl.net e.g. 02:21 < mnemoc> no 'index' to guide ppl to the right personal page? just a personal page? 02:21 < daja77> with index if you like 02:22 < rxr> mnemoc: my useful stuff is sorted into my pages ... 02:23 < mnemoc> RL is a very educative project, there is *lot* of knowledge we can share... pros and cons of $foo, ... 02:23 < rxr> mnemoc: valueable stuff is either in ROCK - or if not polished enought - on other sides 02:23 < rxr> but yes - we could open a non-distributeable-personal-use-only repository or so ... 02:23 < rxr> but now I need sleep - cu 02:23 < mnemoc> :) gn8 rxre 02:24 < daja77> n8 rxr 02:26 * daja77 angry 02:26 < mnemoc> with dlink? 02:30 < daja77> yes 02:31 * mnemoc trying to build a minimal with glibc23-2.3.3-HEAD :\ 02:31 * daja77 off to bed cu 02:31 < rxr> mnemoc: I wish you success 02:31 < rxr> n8 all 02:31 < daja77> n8 rxr 02:31 < mnemoc> n8 rxr, daja77 02:41 -!- rolla [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 02:41 -!- rolla [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #rocklinux 03:44 -!- xphree [underworld@conm200-58-194-60.epm.net.co] has joined #rocklinux 03:44 -!- xphree [underworld@conm200-58-194-60.epm.net.co] has left #rocklinux () 04:00 -!- dsoul [darksoul@pingu.ii.uj.edu.pl] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:03 -!- MadTux [~mike@ip140-62.ct.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 04:03 < MadTux> moin. 04:04 < mnemoc> moin LostTux 04:04 < MadTux> I've been here all this days mnemoc.. just not at the same time you were :) 04:04 < MadTux> mnemoc: how are ya? and how did you go on that work delivery last weeke? 04:05 < mnemoc> new deadline ;) 04:05 < MadTux> mm... so you had luck :) 04:06 < mnemoc> =) 04:06 < mnemoc> do you understand -MD -MT args of gcc? 04:07 < MadTux> a bit. 04:07 < MadTux> why? 04:08 < mnemoc> i'm addapting glibc23 patches for 2.3.3-HEAD 04:08 < MadTux> oh :) 04:08 * MadTux doing commercial stuff tonight. got new contracts :) 04:09 < mnemoc> there is one patch gcc2_is_ok_for_your_mamma.patch which replace -MD with some sed code, but not in all rules of Makerules 04:09 < mnemoc> MadTux: congrats 04:10 < MadTux> mmm... why the replace anyways? 04:10 < MadTux> mnemoc: thanks :) 04:10 < mnemoc> for makeing it build with gcc-2.95 04:13 -!- dsoul [darksoul@pingu.ii.uj.edu.pl] has joined #rocklinux 04:14 < MadTux> mnemoc: ah okis. So anyways what's ur problem? 04:14 < MadTux> hi dsoul :) 04:14 < mnemoc> i wonder if you want to addapt that one :) 04:15 < MadTux> hehehe... 04:15 < mnemoc> np 04:15 < MadTux> mnemoc: i can try yes, but would have to wait 1 or 2 days 04:15 < MadTux> I'm currently very busy doing some work. 04:15 < mnemoc> as it is for 2.95 i'll try a minimal without that damn patch 04:16 < mnemoc> don't worry ;) 04:16 < mnemoc> how is your cluster? frozen? 04:16 < MadTux> dsoul: Jak sie masz? 04:17 < MadTux> mnemoc: cluster.. nearly finished, but then again right now i am focusing all my time on finishing my current work, no much time available to deliver 04:18 < mnemoc> Jak sie masz? <--- ??? 04:31 -!- cytrinox`- [~dj-nail@p213.54.201.169.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 04:33 < MadTux> mnemoc: that means how are you in polish 04:33 < mnemoc> ok :\ 04:33 < MadTux> mnemoc: what? :) 04:34 < MadTux> mnemoc: i will greet you in ur mother language next time if you want :) 04:34 < mnemoc> italian is easy, but... polish? 04:35 < MadTux> mnemoc: well esden have helped me a bit 04:35 < MadTux> :) 04:36 < mnemoc> btw, where is esden? 04:37 < MadTux> mnemoc: busy playing with fedora and doing uni tesis.. 04:38 < mnemoc> more fedora or more tesis? ;) 04:38 < MadTux> dunno honestly 04:39 < MadTux> Oh God, one of my tasks deadline just changed.. 04:39 -!- cytrinox` [~dj-nail@p213.54.244.162.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04:39 < MadTux> have to deliver it tonigh :/ 04:40 < mnemoc> ehm 04:40 < mnemoc> bye MadTux 04:40 < MadTux> how long will you be online? 04:40 < mnemoc> one hour 04:40 < MadTux> grrr... 04:40 < mnemoc> tomorrow morning here as usual ;) 04:40 < MadTux> cu in a few days :( 04:40 < mnemoc> :( 04:41 < MadTux> maybe tomorrow but can't promisse anything 04:41 < mnemoc> good luck MadTux 04:41 < MadTux> mailme the patch to adapt 04:41 < MadTux> thanks mnemocy 04:41 < mnemoc> ;) 05:26 < Aard> 2.6 final is out. 05:27 < MadTux> WEEE!!!!!!!! 05:27 < MadTux> :) 05:28 < mnemoc> :) 05:28 < mnemoc> MadTux: shut up and code 05:28 < mnemoc> :) 05:28 < MadTux> would be great to hear something like ROCK 2.0-Final out :) 05:29 < mnemoc> like? 05:29 < MadTux> mnemoc: Nie zawracaj mi g|owy, nie widzisz, ze jestem zajety ? 05:29 < Aard> YFJI: rock 2.0 final is out. 05:29 < MadTux> Aard: hehe 05:29 < Aard> ooops, my space-time-continuum is broken, sorry. 05:29 < mnemoc> rock-20-final will win the vaporware awards 2003 05:30 < mnemoc> MadTux: polish again? 05:31 < MadTux> mnemoc: yeah, want treanslation 05:31 < mnemoc> please :( 05:31 < MadTux> translation for mnemoc: don't disturb me, don't you see I'm busy ? 05:31 < MadTux> :P 05:31 < MadTux> jk :P 05:33 < mnemoc> :D 05:38 < mnemoc> aaaarg 05:38 < mnemoc> configure: error: CFI directive support in assembler is required 06:26 < mnemoc> wtf is nptl?? what happend to *classic* pthreads??? /me is hating these guys 06:28 < MadTux> hahaha 06:28 < MadTux> i though youd be around for only one more hour 06:29 < mnemoc> ehm 06:29 < mnemoc> :( 06:29 < MadTux> its fine 06:29 < mnemoc> didn't i said that 1 hour ago? ;) 06:29 < MadTux> that was 2 hours ago i think :) 06:30 < MadTux> but doesn't matter its nice to see you still around :) 06:30 < mnemoc> =) 06:34 < mnemoc> i'll go to bed.. this glibc233 doesn't look nice 06:34 < Aard> mnemoc: without building 2.6 final ;) 06:34 < MadTux> no way! 06:34 < MadTux> CODE damn it 06:35 < mnemoc> 2.6 is building :) 06:35 < MadTux> Aard: you really are happy about the release aren't you ? 06:35 < mnemoc> but i took 4 hours in that 06:35 < Aard> MadTux: yes. currently 2 machines running 2.6.0, one building 06:35 * mnemoc plan to use 2.4 for a long time 06:36 < MadTux> mnemoc: bahh! 06:36 < MadTux> buuu!! 06:36 * Aard uses 2.5 since 2.5.52 06:37 < mnemoc> too fat for me 06:37 < MadTux> yeah yeah 06:38 < Aard> mnemoc: 2.4? then you should upgrade 06:38 < mnemoc> 2.4.23 is just fine ;) 06:39 * MadTux wonders if 2.6 is already on dietlinux 06:39 < mnemoc> no real reason to move to a .0 very overloaded kernel 06:39 < mnemoc> maybe to 2.6.10 06:40 < mnemoc> there is too much crap on it 06:40 < Aard> MadTux: next release to congress, featuring 2.6.0 06:40 < MadTux> mm... 06:40 < MadTux> Aard: excellent 06:49 < mnemoc> gn8 Aard, BusyTux 06:49 < MadTux> oyasumi mnemoc 06:49 < Aard> MadTux: n8 06:49 < MadTux> Aard: I'm not off.. 06:50 < Aard> MadTux: was that a curse? 06:50 < mnemoc> :) 06:50 < MadTux> Aard: it was /me saying bye in jap :) 06:50 < Aard> MadTux: sorry, my nick completion thinks it has artificial intelligence 06:50 < MadTux> Aard: but if i tell mnemoc: chaoling con pollo. <- that is a curse 07:03 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-251.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 07:21 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-094.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 07:39 -!- kasc [~kasc@dsl-213-023-063-098.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 07:45 < blindcoder> moin 07:45 < Aard> moin 07:46 < MadTux> hi blindy 07:47 < blindcoder> MadTux: pcmcia-cs, subversion-static and raidtools fails with yesterdays HEAD + your minimal-adaptions 07:47 < MadTux> i did spected both pcmcia and raidtools 07:47 < MadTux> can i have the .err files please 07:48 < blindcoder> sure, just a moment 07:48 < blindcoder> https://scavenger.homeip.net/~blindcoder/rocklinux/errlist.tar.bz2 07:49 < MadTux> danke Blindpire :) 07:55 < blindcoder> :) 08:01 * blindcoder now installing Request Tracker on his poor Laptop 08:01 < MadTux> poor laptop.... grrrrr posser! 08:25 < blindcoder> MUAHAHA! I love huebi :) 08:25 < MadTux> blindy? 08:28 < blindcoder> for his (ssh+cat)^n=scp equation where n is the number of machines you have to go through :) 08:28 < MadTux> ah :) 08:28 * MadTux misses to see huebi around 08:28 < blindcoder> something like: 08:29 < blindcoder> cat $bigfile | ssh machine1 "cat - | ssh machine2 ' cat - >$bigfile'" 08:29 < blindcoder> I just did it the other way round :) 08:29 < blindcoder> brb 08:30 < MadTux> k. 08:51 < blindcoder> back 09:51 < MadTux> re blindy 09:55 < blindcoder> thx 10:08 -!- dsoul [darksoul@pingu.ii.uj.edu.pl] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10:09 -!- thejokker [~thejokker@fl-wbu1-c3-192-58.pbc.adelphia.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:10 -!- thejokker [~thejokker@fl-wbu1-c3-192-58.pbc.adelphia.net] has left #rocklinux () 10:21 -!- pero [~root@adsl-182-153-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #rocklinux 10:28 < blindcoder> IRC with root == _baaad_ 10:31 < rxr> re 10:32 < blindcoder> moin rxr 10:32 < MadTux> hi rxr 10:34 < blindcoder> rxr: the new rockplug work like a charm with my USB2Serial Converter ^^ 10:37 < rxr> good 10:37 < rxr> cu all later 10:37 < blindcoder> okay, bye 11:52 -!- dsoul [darksoul@pingu.ii.uj.edu.pl] has joined #rocklinux 11:59 < blindcoder> WEE! mod_hardware and mod_rocplug both write different data to the same file 12:06 * blindcoder lunch 12:39 < MadTux> Oh my God sun is nearly out. 12:40 < MadTux> cu at dark. 12:40 * MadTux runs home 12:40 -!- MadTux [~mike@ip140-62.ct.co.cr] has quit ("Client Exiting") 12:52 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD958FD19.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:52 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4FC1A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Nick collision from services.) 12:52 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 13:16 < mnemoc> re 13:17 * blindcoder back 13:21 < mnemoc> hi blindcoder 13:26 * blindcoder sleepy 13:26 < blindcoder> I don't have motivation to do anything today... 13:28 < mnemoc> you can go back to bed :) 13:36 < blindcoder> nah, still at work and have to attend christmas-party withcompany today >_< 13:36 < mnemoc> have fun 13:37 < blindcoder> thanks :/ 13:37 < blindcoder> And after that I have to clean my lapto... 250 perl-modules lying around and will be used only today *grmpf* 13:38 < mnemoc> o_O 13:40 < blindcoder> request tracker 13:40 < blindcoder> a trouble ticket system that just rocks, but needs several hundrer perl-modules 13:47 < blindcoder> I need to present that to my boss today because we need one for our growing number of customers :) 13:49 < mnemoc> good :) 13:54 -!- pero [~root@adsl-182-153-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit ("Using Kopete IRC Plugin") 14:09 < blindcoder> Hmmm I think I'm busy until 20C3 14:09 < blindcoder> Just found a project which I wnat to finish until then (next to 20C3ISO) 14:16 < fake> ah, 2.6.0 is out... 14:19 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-251.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:20 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-052-200.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:22 < daja77> moin 14:23 < fake> hi daja77 14:24 < daja77> hey fake :) 14:25 < cytrinox`-> moin 14:25 < daja77> fake: do you come to 20c3? 14:26 < fake> of course i will 14:26 < fake> as will you, right? 14:26 < daja77> yep 14:28 < fake> ./scripts/Create-ISO: line 181: /usr/bin/mkisofs: Argument list too long 14:28 < fake> uh. 14:28 < fake> no dvd, then... 14:30 < blindcoder> it worked fine here last time 14:30 < blindcoder> how did you get 32kB into your command line? 14:30 < daja77> erhm argumentlist too long != iso too long 14:30 < blindcoder> is your rock-src somewhere in /usr/src/mysources/fake/development/rocklinux-2.0/2003/december/.../.../.../ 14:31 < fake> no 14:32 < fake> /rock/trunk 14:32 < blindcoder> worst case just recompile glibc and kernel to support more than 32kB command lines :D 14:33 < fake> ;P 14:33 < fake> how can i tell ide-scsi module which drive to scsi-emulate when load as module? 14:33 < blindcoder> what did you build and what did you pass to Create-ISO? 14:40 < fake> i built rc4 completely and passws -size 4700 to create-iso 14:40 < fake> is it possible to tell the ide-scsi module on-the-fly which drives to use? 14:40 < blindcoder> -size 4489 is corre 14:41 < blindcoder> it is, but I don't know how :P 14:41 < blindcoder> consule linux/Documentation/ 14:41 < fake> (that doesn't matter, it's not this big anyways) 14:42 < fake> hm... 14:53 < blindcoder> fake: could you -x Create-ISO and mail me that line or the complete output? 14:53 -!- true [~true@aszlig.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:15 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@p5080255F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:30 * blindcoder gone 15:33 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p50802185.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16:00 < daja77> https://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag/2004/service/xmas.html?18 16:03 < fake> ah, fine. my ipfw rules work. 16:03 < fake> .oO( for what resolution is that webpage?) 16:04 < daja77> erh dunno :) 16:04 < daja77> just good that they took my writing 16:04 < fake> 1600x1200? 16:04 < mnemoc> more than that 16:05 < daja77> should work well with that :)) 16:05 < fake> yeah, free rocklinux ad on the bottom ;) 16:05 < daja77> hehe 16:05 < daja77> tuxracer package will be done soon 16:05 < mnemoc> long parragraphs with no-wrap style attribute 16:05 < daja77> hey i know that the page sucks, not my project 16:06 < mnemoc> cut your paragraphs :) 16:06 < mnemoc> or tell them to remove the no-wrap ;-) 16:08 < daja77> poor mnemoc has to read german again 16:11 < mnemoc> i'll have to study it soon :( 16:12 < mnemoc> ehm... the no-wrap was instroduced by the google's translator :| 16:12 < daja77> :) 16:15 < mnemoc> 1600x1200 is ok now :( 16:16 < daja77> ... 16:17 < Aard> moin 16:17 < daja77> hi Aard 16:19 < mnemoc> moin Aard 16:20 < daja77> Aard: will you be there at 20c3? 16:21 < Aard> daja77: jup. 16:22 < Aard> arriving 26.12, leavnig 30.12 16:22 < daja77> cool 16:22 < daja77> so we could have a walk in berlin too 16:32 < Aard> jup 16:33 < daja77> sounds cool 16:38 * fake looked it up once 16:38 < fake> <td nowrap> is illegal according to html 16:38 < fake> w3c 16:38 < fake> that's why konqueror isn't honoring it 16:38 < daja77> fake using kde O_o 16:39 < fake> .... windowmaker sucks from time to time. 16:40 < fake> (my just burnt -rc4-cd didn't boot?) 16:40 < mnemoc> firebird is pretty cool 16:41 < daja77> rc4 lol, only have that on my granny's pc now 16:44 * fake started the build on monday 16:44 < fake> (with downloads...) 16:46 * daja77 installing win98 atm 16:46 * fake os/2 warp 3 16:46 < daja77> nice 16:47 < fake> like all these brainfscked ATMs 16:48 < mnemoc> daja77: you installing windows? 16:48 < daja77> yep at work 16:48 < fake> do you feel bad? 16:49 < daja77> and it sucks 16:49 < mnemoc> why 98? 16:49 < daja77> yeah, this old crap system on a new pc, it knows almost no device 16:49 * fake once let win98 face 1 Gig of RAM and 100 G hd - it was funny. 17:01 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD95028B0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:07 * netrunne1 looking for beos ... 17:07 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 17:08 < daja77> this sucks 17:08 < daja77> os/2 install was more fun, want to switch with fake 17:09 < Aard> daja77: one of my boxes here ist still running warp 3 ;) 17:09 < daja77> :) 17:19 * mnemoc never installes os/2 17:19 < mnemoc> installed* 17:19 < daja77> don't worry 17:26 < netrunner> argl. my build server dissapeared from my network :/ 17:33 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-052-200.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 17:35 * netrunner created avm/snownews 17:35 < daja77> netrunner could be confused with an isdn manufacturer 17:40 < daja77> d'oh my rtrock build is beta4 17:52 < netrunner> daja77: what tells you it's not me who made those parts? ;) 17:53 * netrunner sold his name for $$$ to a company to let them take part on his glory 17:54 < daja77> in that case i'd have to blacklist them :) 17:56 * fake running -rc4 17:56 < fake> nice. 17:57 < daja77> yep doin rtrock build on trunk is tricky 17:59 < esden> hi all 17:59 < daja77> 18:00 < Zentaur> Are you having homosexual thoughts? Don't resist! Take look at 17:59 < daja77> some hot lesbian man on man action here 17:59 < daja77> hi esden! 17:59 < esden> fake: you wanted to send me something ;) 17:59 < esden> hi daja77 ;) 17:59 < daja77> changed your mind? 18:00 < esden> ? 18:01 * daja77 just collecting names of ppl to meet on 20c3 18:01 < esden> daja77: not really ... I probably will skip this years congress ... but try to get there next year 18:01 < daja77> ok 18:04 * daja77 watching rtrock install 18:10 < fake> esden: chill.... 18:10 * daja77 wondering if fake will be a bit longer here 18:11 < fake> where here? 18:11 < daja77> yep 18:12 * fake fought for a few days 'off' 18:12 < daja77> sounds great 18:20 < esden> fake: I am chilled ... and in very good mood ;) 18:20 < esden> even though I have only slept two hours ;) 18:29 < daja77> fefe announced that we might require our own network equipment 18:29 < daja77> any plans for that? 18:31 < esden> ok ... I am off 18:31 < esden> cu guy 18:31 < esden> s 18:31 < daja77> cu esden 18:48 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-27-183.reverse.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:48 < holyolli> moin 19:01 -!- freed [bofh@pD9E75B84.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:01 < freed> hi 19:02 < holyolli> hi freed 19:02 < freed> hi 19:07 < freed> wie bekomm ich denn grub als bootloader auf ne cd? irgendwie klappt das bei mir nicht 19:08 < freed> hat jemand ein image parat? 19:09 < holyolli> freed: ich habe nur ein image von der normalen install-cd fuer x86...und die meisten auf diesem channel koennen kein deutsch ;-) 19:09 < freed> ich will ja nur booten und dann die grub-shell vor mir haben 19:09 < freed> geht das damit? 19:10 < freed> hab hier gerade ein notebook vor mir welches kein diskettenlaufwerk mehr hat 19:10 < mnemoc> i'm the only bastard don't understand german :( 19:10 < holyolli> mnemoc: i already told him that not everybody can understand german ;) 19:11 < freed> sorry, my english is not so good 19:11 < mnemoc> don't worry :) holyolli will help you 19:11 < holyolli> freed: du muesstest mit grub-install das auch einfach auf cd installieren koennen 19:13 < holyolli> freed: welche grub-version hast du denn? 19:13 < holyolli> weil es gibt ein patch, damit du auch von cd booten kannst 19:13 < freed> oki 19:14 < holyolli> freed: wenn das nicht klappt, machst du einfach eine bootdisk (als image) und brennst das dann als bootable-cd 19:14 < holyolli> das sollte auf jeden fall klappen 19:14 < holyolli> mnemoc: it's about installing grub on a cdrom in order to have a grub-menu/-shell on a bootable cd 19:15 < mnemoc> holyolli: thanks :) i have babelfish on my side ;) 19:15 < holyolli> *g* 19:16 < holyolli> mnemoc: esta muy bien y muy elegante ;-) 19:16 < holyolli> btw. has anybody seen madtux the last day? 19:17 < mnemoc> i saw him last night 19:17 < mnemoc> we has a new/urgent job 19:19 < holyolli> mnemoc: hm. do you know anything about his visit to .de? 19:19 < mnemoc> he said he will go 19:19 < holyolli> cool! 19:55 -!- nookie [~nookie@M292P017.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 20:13 -!- nookie [~nookie@M292P017.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("Lost terminal") 20:16 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD95028B0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("ze ûda brí-tenkoR") 20:28 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-052-200.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:44 < daja77> re 20:45 < holyolli> moin daja77 20:45 < daja77> hi holyolli 20:47 < holyolli> has anybody ever tried to update the glibc-package on a running system? 20:48 * daja77 not 20:48 < holyolli> hm. /me has the problem of a f***ed up glibc on his alpha...and with that the rock-build doesn't work 21:01 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EA99F4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:03 < tcr> moin all 21:03 < holyolli> moin tcr 21:05 < tcr> hi holyolli, how are you? 21:05 < holyolli> tcr: hm. "es geht so". i have my final exam in 2 weeks... 21:06 < tcr> exams in what? 21:06 < tcr> Well at least you don't feel sick as I do :/ 21:07 < holyolli> tcr: the finishing exam of my training ("ausbildung") 21:07 < holyolli> tcr: oh...y are you sick? 21:07 < tcr> holyolli, Yeah... somewhat, I tend to get a sore throat when it's going to be cold outside 21:08 < holyolli> tcr: the exams are about all, what we did the last 2 years... 21:08 < holyolli> tcr: get healthy until ccc! ;-) 21:08 < tcr> I won't come, I'm afraid 21:08 < tcr> Weren't you in the US some months ago? 21:09 < holyolli> tcr: that's right... it was the practical part of my training... 21:09 < holyolli> <-- is trying to move old metal through the air ;-) 21:10 < tcr> holyolli, ? how should I interpreate that? 21:21 -!- freed [bofh@pD9E75B84.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21:42 -!- LocalHero [~alex@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has joined #rocklinux 21:42 < LocalHero> Hi all 21:42 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EA99F4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:03 < Aard> <3fe1c1f6@fefe.de> 22:06 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EA9A26.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:07 < tcr> re all 22:07 < daja77> Aard: the call for hw? 22:10 < Aard> daja77: jup. 22:10 -!- elon [~afgh@dialin-145-254-058-220.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:10 -!- LocalHero [~alex@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has quit ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.2.4") 22:16 < daja77> bad thing 22:20 < Aard> daja77: chaos rulez ;) 22:20 < daja77> ;) 22:26 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EA9A26.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 22:29 -!- neitzsche [~zen@pcp255680pcs.howard01.md.comcast.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:58 * daja77 np monkey island theme 23:00 < holyolli> re 23:07 < daja77> wb 23:12 < mnemoc> re * 23:12 < daja77> wb 23:13 * daja77 just got monkey island I + II, scummvw is really nice 23:13 < holyolli> is it for free? 23:14 < daja77> scummvm yes, but you need the original gamne files 23:14 < daja77> monkey island on linux, on a tft starnge feeling 23:15 < holyolli> *g* 23:15 < Robe_> hm. 23:16 < Robe_> does sound work? 23:17 < daja77> yes, that's the best part 23:17 -!- neitzsche [~zen@pcp255680pcs.howard01.md.comcast.net] has quit (Connection timed out) 23:21 < Aard> daja77: played loom just a few weeks ago. happy memories... ;) 23:21 < daja77> yep have loom too, + manian mansion and zak mckracken 23:22 < Aard> yep, it's really cool that maniac works now :)) 23:22 < daja77> never played that actually, only day of the tentacle 23:24 < daja77> add to todo: put scummvm and lucasarts games on 20c3 laptop 23:24 < Aard> daja77: coolest lucas arts game ever ;) 23:24 < daja77> ;) 23:25 * Aard has scummvm and games ready 23:25 < Aard> btw, did you have a look at the games released for free with the last release? 23:25 < daja77> hm? 23:28 < Aard> daja77: revolution supported the scummvm team to include support for `beneath a seel sky', and made the gamefiles itself freeware with the scummvm release 23:28 < Aard> you can download it from revolutions webserver 23:28 < daja77> ah sounds nice 23:28 < daja77> no haven't tried it 23:28 < daja77> benath a steel sky was rather lame anyway 23:29 < daja77> sam&max would be cool 23:29 < Aard> they will release another game soon :) 23:29 < Aard> that's lucas arts. I don't expect the current managment to release theit games for free 23:30 < daja77> i know 23:31 < Robe_> nicenicenice 23:31 < Robe_> simon the sorcerer is also scumm based? 23:31 < daja77> yep 23:31 < Aard> daja77: no 23:32 < Aard> scummvm ist not scumm-only anymore 23:32 < daja77> they support simon the sourcerer afaik 23:32 < Aard> daja77: they support it, but it's not scumm 23:33 < Aard> irc was simon the first non-scumm-game supported by scummvm 23:33 < daja77> what is it then? 23:34 < Aard> dunno. read the docs at www.scummvm.org ;) 23:35 < daja77> Dec 12, 2003: ScummVM is Dead, please read this post. 23:35 < daja77> wtf 23:35 < Aard> ad `read the docs'. my boss read some of my documentation and asked some dumb questions. i told him to read the whole paraghraph, whisch solved his problem. he: `it would have been enough to say RTFM' :) 23:35 < Aard> daja77: read the whole post :) 23:35 < daja77> hehe 23:35 < daja77> damn jokes 23:35 < daja77> wanna join their chan? 23:55 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #rocklinux --- Log closed Fri Dec 19 00:00:03 2003