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--- Log opened Tue Dec 23 00:00:21 2003 00:19 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M346P019.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 00:30 -!- nookie [~nookie@M285P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:30 < daja77> *lol* 00:37 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.4.104] has quit ("connection reset by peer") 00:40 -!- natex [~natex@syr-24-58-98-185.twcny.rr.com] has joined #rocklinux 00:43 -!- natex [~natex@syr-24-58-98-185.twcny.rr.com] has left #rocklinux () 01:11 < rxr> re 01:12 < daja77> hi rxr 01:17 < rxr> hi daja77 01:17 < rxr> has clifford told what the problem at rocklinux.* has been? 01:17 < daja77> power loss, on the ml, yes 01:21 < rxr> ah - I just see 01:22 < daja77> but down a few hours, it was almost a day, iirc 01:28 -!- batok [~chatzilla@200.77.2.113] has joined #rocklinux 01:38 < rxr> ok - me back in the morning ... 01:38 < rxr> cu 01:39 < daja77> cu rxr 01:53 -!- slarts [~slarts@i-195-137-113-82.freedom2surf.net] has joined #rocklinux 02:23 < rxr> re 02:23 < rxr> Wow - 30 nicks here ... 02:24 < daja77> O_o how come? 02:25 < daja77> nice linux 2.6.0 shuts down my laptop before finished booting 02:29 < rxr> I'm very happy that 2.6 does work quite good on this ibook 02:29 < rxr> I thought it would crash like hell on non-x86 boxes 02:30 < daja77> it just doesn't on this laptop *sigh* 02:30 < daja77> since i activated devfs ... 02:32 < rxr> hm - devfs does not seem to be a problem on this iBook 02:32 < daja77> i have no idea why it does that, no error message one could use 02:33 * daja77 happy he got rid of his scanner problems today 02:34 < batok> I have run ./scripts/Config , now what 's next? 02:35 < daja77> scripts/Build-Target 02:36 -!- slarts [~slarts@i-195-137-113-82.freedom2surf.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 02:36 < batok> Paranoia Check: Program 'mktemp' not found or too old! 02:36 < batok> You need an 'mktemp' installed which does know about the -p 02:36 < batok> option. Install the latest mktemp version. 02:36 < batok> Paranoia Check found errors -> not doing anything. 02:36 < batok> You can disable the Paranoia Checks in the Config tool 02:36 < batok> on your own risk! 02:37 < daja77> just do so 02:37 < batok> what 's this supposed to do , to make an ISO directly to CDROM?? 02:37 < daja77> installing new mktemp i mean 02:37 < daja77> maybe you want to read the handbook before proceeding 02:38 < rxr> batok: you meant what mktemp is for ? 02:38 < batok> yeap 02:39 < rxr> batok: a tool to genrate unique names for temporary 02:39 < rxr> files 02:39 < rxr> nearly any distribution ship it and use it\ 02:39 < rxr> but many distributions ship a broken version 02:39 < batok> ok 02:39 < batok> I am running RH8 02:39 < batok> I am going to download the latest source 02:40 < batok> or RPM 02:40 < daja77> batok: do you have a devfs enabled kernel on your rh8= 02:40 < daja77> ? 02:40 < batok> Can I get such info via lsmod? 02:41 < batok> is it a module? 02:41 < batok> or directly from .config? 02:43 < daja77> have you built your own? 02:44 < batok> my own...kernel? 02:44 < daja77> yes 02:44 < batok> no, it is the one included in RH8 02:45 < daja77> the precompiled rh kernels have no devfs enabled 02:45 < daja77> so you'd have to recompile it with devfs support 02:45 < batok> ok 02:45 < batok> I owe you one! 02:45 < batok> tks 02:46 -!- batok [~chatzilla@200.77.2.113] has left #rocklinux () 02:46 < daja77> np that's why we are here 02:47 < daja77> d'oh 02:51 < rxr> ... 02:52 < daja77> hm? 02:52 < daja77> have i scared him 02:54 < rxr> I'm not sure 02:54 < rxr> but might be better for him if he/she never compiled a kernel before .. 02:55 < daja77> can't help it, devfs is still required for rock and rh doesn't have it 02:55 * daja77 building rock on rh8 at work :)) 02:55 -!- batok [~chatzilla@200.77.2.113] has joined #rocklinux 02:55 < rxr> me konws 02:56 < daja77> *gg* 02:57 * daja77 hopes that x build this time 03:12 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.4.104] has joined #rocklinux 03:13 < daja77> hi mnemoc 03:14 < mnemoc> hi 03:14 < mnemoc> i'm not getting mails of RLML :( 03:14 < daja77> why 03:14 < rxr> hi mnemoc 03:14 * mnemoc reading them from lurker 03:15 < mnemoc> hi rxr 03:15 < mnemoc> no idea 03:15 < daja77> trouble with your provider? 03:16 < rxr> Comitted revision 2048. 03:16 < mnemoc> no.. i get SVN-CHANGELOG and lot of spam, but i don't recive RLML 03:17 < daja77> nice thx 03:18 < rxr> now I'm really off to bed ... cu 03:18 * daja77 too 03:18 < daja77> cu 03:18 < mnemoc> gn8 rxr 03:18 < mnemoc> gn8 daja 03:19 < daja77> cu mnemoc 03:38 -!- batok [~chatzilla@200.77.2.113] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 04:31 -!- cytrinox`- [~dj-nail@p213.54.203.3.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 04:49 -!- cytrinox` [~dj-nail@p213.54.236.43.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:02 -!- bluefire [bluefire@p50817057.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 06:01 -!- Burbuja [~BubbleX@plms16763-86.pool.007mundo.com] has joined #rocklinux 06:38 -!- Burbuja [~BubbleX@plms16763-86.pool.007mundo.com] has left #rocklinux ("Free your mind") 07:56 -!- BucWheat [~BucWheat@ip68-97-16-93.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:05 -!- BucWheat [~BucWheat@ip68-97-16-93.ok.ok.cox.net] has left #rocklinux ("Leaving") 08:14 -!- nookie [~nookie@M266P005.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 08:31 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M346P019.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:51 -!- zenlunatic [~zen@pcp255680pcs.howard01.md.comcast.net] has quit (SendQ exceeded) 08:55 < netrunner> moin 09:02 -!- zenlunatic [~zen@pcp255680pcs.howard01.md.comcast.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:12 * netrunner installing ROCK at work 09:34 < netrunner> hm, don't we have the xntpd? 10:22 -!- zenlunatic [~zen@pcp255680pcs.howard01.md.comcast.net] has quit (Connection timed out) 11:14 < clifford> moin 11:14 < daja77> moin clifford 11:27 < blindcoder> moin moin 11:28 < blindcoder> WEE! All Pentium* builds are done ^^ 11:31 < daja77> moin blindcoder 11:31 < daja77> my athlon_xp builds do not work 11:31 < blindcoder> why not? X? 11:32 < clifford> daja77: ice, i guess? 11:33 < daja77> no it claims it can't remove a directoryafter having make install almost finished 11:33 < blindcoder> hrm? 11:34 < blindcoder> which one? 11:34 < clifford> hae? which package? what's the exact error message? 11:35 < daja77> install in nls/XI18N_OBJS done 11:35 < daja77> make[1]: Leaving directory `/R.src/xc/nls/XI18N_OBJS' 11:35 < daja77> removed `/etc/fonts/fonts.conf.bak' 11:35 < daja77> rm: cannot remove `/usr/X11': Is a directory 11:35 < daja77> --- BUILD ERROR --- 11:35 < daja77> package xfree86 11:35 < blindcoder> bull, X11 is a symlink 11:35 < blindcoder> rm -rf X11 by hand 11:36 < daja77> what would that help 11:36 < blindcoder> last time I saw that it was a defunct fonts-package 11:36 < blindcoder> that made a mkdir -p /usr/X11/..../.../.../ 11:36 < blindcoder> before XFree was build 11:37 < blindcoder> I think something like that happened here, too 11:37 < daja77> the fonts packages should bebuilt after xfree, no? 11:38 < blindcoder> correct 11:38 < daja77> could such a bug be related to optimization parameters as well? 11:39 < blindcoder> don't think so 11:40 < daja77> me neither, just remember that x was the package which caused trouble with wrong optimization 11:41 < clifford> daja77: which package owns usr/X11 ? 11:42 < daja77> how can i figure that out 11:43 < blindcoder> grep 'usr/X11$' build/ID/root/var/adm/flists/* 11:45 < daja77> the nvidia package 11:46 < blindcoder> I think I know what happened 11:46 < blindcoder> X failed with the optimization thing 11:46 < blindcoder> then nvidia got built and did a mkdir -p /usr/X11/.../.../ 11:47 < blindcoder> which caused that directory to be created and thus owned by nvidia 11:47 < daja77> args damn no wrong 11:47 < blindcoder> ? 11:47 < daja77> x didn't built the first time cos i had the wrong tarball 11:48 < daja77> then i retried and ran into that mess 11:49 < daja77> nvidia package does no check whether x exists ... 11:49 < daja77> guess i have to reschedule/remove the nvidia package and rerun that stuff 11:50 < blindcoder> yes, but if you think you can't finish until 20C3 I'll try to build it on the Pentium4 here 11:50 < blindcoder> clifford: do you think it's possible to build a Athlon XP build on a Pentium 4 11:50 < blindcoder> ? 11:51 < daja77> well the build can run over xmas, i am just not here to have a look at it 11:51 < blindcoder> daja77: okay 11:51 < blindcoder> daja77: if you got the correct sources now then it _should_ run fine 11:51 < daja77> you would need a crossbuild to do that 11:51 < daja77> i have now all the sources for rev 2037 11:52 < blindcoder> good ^^ 11:52 < blindcoder> what are you building atm? 11:52 * daja77 thinkking about scripts/Cleanup -full, to prevent that other stuff like this happens when i am away 11:53 < daja77> atm generic pentium-mmx and bootdisk :) 11:53 < daja77> but i can build boootdisk on the laptop as well 11:54 < blindcoder> are you already done with one build? (minimal for example?) 11:55 < daja77> nope minimal & bootdisk are scheduled for the laptop (athlon 1600+) to save my nerves 11:55 < daja77> they will be built when i am away 11:56 < daja77> so i don't have to sleep with that noise 11:56 < blindcoder> good ^^ 12:02 * blindcoder back to soldering 12:02 < daja77> happy fight 12:03 < blindcoder> thx 12:10 < daja77> bbl 12:46 < rxr> re 12:46 < blindcoder> moin rxr 12:53 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD958F232.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:53 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p50801ED6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Nick collision from services.) 12:53 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 12:57 -!- puzzled [~patrick@puzzled.xs4all.nl] has joined #rocklinux 12:59 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-058-113.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:04 < freed> rxr? 13:13 < rxr> hi freed 13:17 -!- starlord [~starlord@dsl10040.japo.fi] has joined #rocklinux 13:22 -!- Robe_ [robe@das.geizhals.buero.ist.geiler.at] has quit () 13:24 -!- nookie [~nookie@M266P005.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("Lost terminal") 13:28 < starlord> hmm,i'm really confused here,how do i install gnome24(base)? 13:29 < daja77> mine -i $package? 13:30 < starlord> hmm,yep,if from gem files,but with ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg 13:32 < starlord> what is the "base" package for gnome24 to put for /scripts/Emerge-Pkg -dep $package 13:34 < starlord> and did rocknet didnt come with 2.0-rc2? what's the package for that? 13:34 < daja77> dunno sorry 13:36 < clifford> starlord: rocknet is not a seperate package 13:36 < clifford> it's a system of plugins supported by multiple packages (such as stone) 13:38 < starlord> clifford:ok,thanks 13:38 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-058-113.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 13:38 < daja77> btw we should add some content to https://wiki.ccc.de/bin/view/Congress2003/RockLinux 13:40 < starlord> is anyone using that microcode_ctl(update thing) during boot up? 13:48 < mnemoc> re 13:49 < daja77> wb mnemoc 13:49 < mnemoc> thanks daja77 13:51 < mnemoc> how r u today daja? 13:52 < daja77> i am ok 13:53 < mnemoc> good 13:53 < daja77> and you 13:54 < mnemoc> ok too ;-) but without RLML daily flood o_O 13:55 < daja77> ;-) 13:56 < mnemoc> daja77: did my patch for scripts/Download reach the ML? 13:56 < daja77> yes 13:57 < mnemoc> ehm... then i still subscribed =) 13:57 < daja77> ;-) 13:58 < mnemoc> clifford: if you have a time, can you see why i'm bouncing? (amery@geeks.cl) 14:01 * blindcoder --> lunch 14:08 * mnemoc --> breakfast 14:10 -!- starlord [~starlord@dsl10040.japo.fi] has quit ("leaving") 14:21 < mnemoc> re 14:24 < rxr> re 14:28 < mnemoc> wb rxr 14:32 < rxr> mnemoc: the regex stuff in glibc should be fixed in it's CVS now 14:32 < rxr> I'll commit a updated glibc233 branch later 14:32 < mnemoc> don't you get then -lgcc_eh error? 14:33 < rxr> not on PowerPC 14:33 < mnemoc> aarg :\ 14:33 < rxr> I have not tried the glibc233 branch on x86 yet 14:34 < rxr> ok - cu later 14:35 < mnemoc> cu 14:43 < Aard> snow sucks. xmas sucks. 14:49 * blindcoder back 14:54 < daja77> hi Aard 14:55 < Aard> hi. and bye. (modem line, timebased billing) 14:55 < daja77> k. cu 15:01 < netrunner> ts, now I organized lots of cables and hubs, now they tell me they do not need it. 15:01 < daja77> so we use it for ourselves 15:02 -!- YDS [proxyuser@230-128.isdn-dsl.itte.kz] has joined #rocklinux 15:03 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD950289C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:04 < netrunner> daja77: ok, then we have ... 18*24 ports on our table :) 15:05 < netrunner> only 10MBit though :) but I have lwl in my build server :) 15:05 < netrunner> maybe the one organizing space for us can make sure we get an extra fibre to us, so we can provide rock isos with GIG speed 15:06 < daja77> :) 15:09 -!- YDS [proxyuser@230-128.isdn-dsl.itte.kz] has quit ("I go in hacked world............ :(") 15:13 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@p50802BFB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:27 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p50802EB2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:27 < cytrinox`-> moin 16:07 -!- starlord [~starlord@dsl10040.japo.fi] has joined #rocklinux 16:36 < blindcoder> 32 wires to go 16:39 -!- holyoli [~holyolli@port-212-202-177-35.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:39 < holyoli> moin 16:40 < holyoli> does anybody have the snailmail-address of mike? 16:43 -!- holyoli [~holyolli@port-212-202-177-35.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Client Quit) 16:43 < blindcoder> not yet 17:03 -!- freed [bofh@pD9E75EF3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("make world not war") 17:11 -!- clifford [~clifford@213-229-1-138.sdsl-line.inode.at] has quit ("Client exiting") 17:31 -!- starlord [~starlord@dsl10040.japo.fi] has quit ("leaving") 17:45 < netrunne1> how can I create the default databases for mysql? 17:48 < SMP> you mean the grant tables in the 'mysql' db? 17:51 < SMP> use mysql_install_db or better yet extract the scheme from this script and save it for later use 18:01 < netrunne1> SMP: thx, I'll try. 18:01 -!- pieass [~pieass@3ffe:bc0:7f5:0:2e0:7dff:feab:9905] has joined #rocklinux 18:04 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD95220DF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:47 < blindcoder> WEE! My blinkenLEDs work! 18:47 < netrunne1> blinkcoder: bravo :) 18:47 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 18:48 < netrunner> Error logs from athlon_mp_generic-2.0.0-rc4-x86-athlon-mp-32-generic-expert: 1075 builds total, 659 completed fine, 8 with errors. 18:51 < netrunner> haha, found something better this time: NuppelVideoRecorder.o 18:53 < blindcoder> netrunner: thanks 18:53 < blindcoder> NuppelVideoRecorder.o ????? 18:54 < netrunner> blindcoder: even better than NuppelDecoder.o :) 18:55 < blindcoder> ehm... 18:56 < blindcoder> mplayer? 18:57 < netrunner> mythtv 18:58 < blindcoder> i c 18:59 < blindcoder> still have to write the software for blinkenleds though 19:01 < blindcoder> the DOS software works, but the linux port (made by me :/) still has some glitches 19:03 < blindcoder> well, I will rewrite it... tomorrow... or on Friday... maybe at the weekend... maybe not at all >_< 19:04 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.4.104] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19:05 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.4.104] has joined #rocklinux 19:09 -!- pieass [~pieass@3ffe:bc0:7f5:0:2e0:7dff:feab:9905] has quit ("Lost terminal") 19:09 -!- zenlunatic [~zen@pcp255680pcs.howard01.md.comcast.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:16 -!- tsa [tsa@pD9E11276.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:17 < tsa> hi all. 19:20 < mnemoc> hi tsa 19:30 * blindcoder gone 19:36 < praenti> hi 19:36 < praenti> tsa: also on the engel list is no traffic today... 19:36 < praenti> tsa: i think they enjoy x-mas 19:37 < tsa> ah..ok 19:39 < praenti> netrunner: borrr. NuppelVideoRecoder *lol* 19:39 < tsa> bbl - adding new disk. 19:39 -!- tsa [tsa@pD9E11276.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("*plopp*") 19:53 < mnemoc> what is engel? 19:55 < praenti> mnemoc: the translation would be angel 19:55 < praenti> but everybody on the c3 says "engel" to this people, even they translate that on the chaos page 19:56 < mnemoc> lol 19:56 < praenti> these people helps in different situations during the congress 19:57 < praenti> this means control the hardware checkin, supports workshops, helping with audio/video and many more 19:59 < praenti> and perhaps i will be member of the CERT-team. this means ChaosEmergencyResponseTeam 20:00 < praenti> this people do first aid in case of a medical emergency and watching over the fire protection 20:01 * praenti is a firefighter 20:04 < mnemoc> :) 20:05 < mnemoc> c3 ppl is very imaginative 20:06 < mnemoc> Site: https://www.ccc.de/congress/2003/engel.de.html 20:06 < mnemoc> Blocked categories: Crime 20:06 < mnemoc> ehm 20:07 < praenti> Blocked categories: Crime, what do you mean by that? 20:07 < praenti> is this s.th. from your firewall? 20:07 < mnemoc> that's what my proxy said :\ 20:07 < praenti> :-( 20:07 < praenti> wait a minute 20:09 < mnemoc> www.ccc.de -> choose .de/.uk cert.ccc.de -> choose .de/.us 20:10 < mnemoc> (language selection) 20:13 < praenti> you can reach this one on https://biersorten.dyndns.org/congress2003/congress/2003/engel.en.html 20:15 -!- zenlunatic [~zen@pcp255680pcs.howard01.md.comcast.net] has quit (Connection timed out) 20:17 < praenti> shit complete nmirroring does not work :-( 20:21 * praenti away now. see you tomorrow 20:28 < puzzled> rxr: any more luck with getting the PPC cd bootable? 20:33 -!- Netsplit zelazny.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: cytrinox`-, asshole|Universe, cchamilt, maze_fan 20:36 -!- cytrinox`- [~dj-nail@p213.54.203.3.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:36 -!- asshole|Universe [~owl@aszlig.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:36 -!- cchamilt [~chatzilla@cm200.gamma145.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #rocklinux 20:36 -!- maze_fan [~crash@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:49 * netrunner adding sql support to qt32 :/ 20:49 < netrunner> s/32/31/ 21:04 < mnemoc> qt32 sounds very windows :) 21:05 < daja77> re 21:05 < mnemoc> hi daja77 21:05 < daja77> hi mnemoc 21:17 < daja77> are there any plans what we want to do at 20c3, which might be worth announcing in the wiki? 21:19 < mnemoc> i guess there are no plans ;) 21:25 < daja77> secret plan, how to gain word domination 21:27 < mnemoc> you can't publish that plan on the wiki 21:28 < daja77> no i could write something about the rock dvd to confuse them# 21:28 -!- puzzled [~patrick@puzzled.xs4all.nl] has quit ("Leaving") 21:32 -!- zenlunatic [~zen@pcp255680pcs.howard01.md.comcast.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:44 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAB49C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:55 < tcr> moin all 21:57 < mnemoc> moin tcr 21:57 < daja77> hi tcr 21:57 < daja77> welcome to this empty place 21:59 < tcr> hm? 22:00 < mnemoc> it's not empty 22:01 < daja77> but lonely ;-) 22:01 < mnemoc> plenty of idlers :) 22:02 < mnemoc> welcome to the lonely rock 22:13 -!- nookie [~nookie@M510P031.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 22:54 < netrunner> mnemoc: you are not alone :) 22:55 < mnemoc> thanks netrunner 23:00 -!- ija [[LU8MLYR5X@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 23:02 -!- ija [[BZX4KHjXQ@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de] has joined #rocklinux 23:17 < mnemoc> can someone tell me the benefit of this alien cp? 23:17 < mnemoc> cd rdd && tar cf - btree.h | (cd /opt/clip/include && tar xf -) 23:17 < mnemoc> cd sql && tar cf - *.h | (cd /opt/clip/include && tar xf -) 23:22 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-058-113.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:26 < tcr> mnemoc, it guarantees a preservation of directory layout and permissions 23:27 < mnemoc> oh... thanks tcr 23:35 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD950289C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("ze ūda brķ-tenkoR") 23:36 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAB49C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) --- Log closed Wed Dec 24 00:00:27 2003