--- Log opened Mon Jan 05 00:00:03 2004
00:02 < tcr> moin all
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02:08 < mnemoc> re all
02:12 < MadTux> hi lazy-mnemoc
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02:14 < mnemoc> lazy?
02:15 < MadTux> yes sure.
02:16 < mnemoc> if u believe that :-\
02:18 < A-Tui> hola Miguel :)
02:18 < MadTux> i don't believe it, i know it.
02:18 < MadTux> hola Aitor :)
02:18 < MadTux> A-Tui, happy new year :)
02:19 < MadTux> mnemoc, jk my friend. things doing good?
02:19 < mnemoc> :\
02:19 < A-Tui> MadTux, tnx, igualmente :)
02:19 < MadTux> mnemoc, smile :)
02:19 < MadTux> A-Tui, thank you. thanks for your ecard also :)
02:20 < A-Tui> ok :)
02:20 < mnemoc> getting better, i hope
02:20 < mnemoc> and yours?
02:21 < MadTux> mnemoc, Excellent here thanks for asking :)
02:21 < mnemoc> excellent?? wow... that's superb
02:23 < mnemoc> ready for leaving that cafe tomorrow?
02:25 < MadTux> mnemoc, the cafe tomorrow, the country really soon :)
02:25 < mnemoc> what about ...becky?
02:25 < MadTux> damn .. u even know my girls name..
02:25 < mnemoc> =)
02:26 < MadTux> she will join me in a few months.
02:27 < mnemoc> and band and parents?
02:27 < mnemoc> how do they take it?
02:29 < MadTux> haven't take it :)
02:29 < MadTux> u are the first to know :)
02:30 < mnemoc> "suprise!! i'm leaving... see you in ... some dday... bye"
02:31 < MadTux> hehe
02:31 < MadTux> not that way, but i'm not telling then till i know the sate i'm out :)
02:32 < mnemoc> da date is days, weeks, month, ...?
02:33 < mnemoc> s/da/that/1
02:33 < MadTux> weeks i guess
02:33 < MadTux> would u suggest hours?
02:33 < MadTux> *grin*
02:34 < mnemoc> you can't start monday morning :\
02:34 < mnemoc> good bucks?
02:36 < MadTux> lets talk on a query ok?
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02:52 < MadTux> urrgg..
03:05 < mnemoc> A-Tui is a strange person
03:06 < MadTux> indeed
03:07 < MadTux> well u are a freak too, so.
03:40 < cytrinox> morgn
03:44 < MadTux> hi cytrinox
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04:25 < mnemoc> gn8 MadTux, cytrinox`
04:25 < cytrinox> gn8 mnemoc
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06:49 < Burbuja> MadTux: eyyyyy
06:52 < Burbuja> MadTux: what are you doing??
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09:49 < netrunner> galeon
10:11 < blindcoder> moun
10:11 < blindcoder> moin
10:12 < netrunner> ts, that happens when gf catches the laptop and tries to run a browser. she writes it to the one of 4 xterms where my irssi runs ;)
10:12 < blindcoder> *lol*
10:12 < blindcoder> never let your gf on your laptop :)
10:13 < blindcoder> or better: teach her how to use your windowmanager
10:25 * blindcoder testing new LVP-XFree-Configuration-method
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11:24 < blindcoder> rxr: ping
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11:51 < rxr> re
11:51 < rxr> hi blindcoder 
11:51 < blindcoder> rxr: hi
11:51 < blindcoder> rxr: praenti and I had an idea about a nickname for the next rock-rc
11:52 < blindcoder> rxr: inspired by the 20C3: ROCK Linux 2.0.0-rc5 "Not the NOC" :)
11:52 < rxr> ;-)
11:57 < rxr> cu
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12:16 < blindcoder> okay, LVP will use X -configure in the next release :)
12:16 < blindcoder> with the option to revert to old LVP-style
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13:55 < cchamilt> rxr:?
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14:30 < rolla> re
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15:54 < mnemoc> re
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16:02 < daja77> moin
16:03 < mnemoc> moi
16:03 < mnemoc> n da
16:03 < mnemoc> ja
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16:13 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now - http://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html
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16:13 [ [anders]  ] [ cchamilt] [ esden_ ] [ mnemoc   ] [ puzzled] [ true      ] 
16:13 [ A-Tui     ] [ cytrinox] [ fake   ] [ netcrow  ] [ rolla  ] [ zenlunatic] 
16:13 [ Aard      ] [ daja77  ] [ ija    ] [ netcrow_ ] [ rxr    ] 
16:13 [ aktnot_   ] [ dsoul   ] [ k3t__  ] [ netrunne1] [ SMP    ] 
16:13 [ blindcoder] [ elon    ] [ mistik1] [ owl_     ] [ snyke  ] 
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16:30 < rxr> re
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16:42 < daja77> wb rxr
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16:57 < blindcoder> *yawn*
16:57 < blindcoder> hi all
16:57 < daja77> hi blindcoder 
16:58 < blindcoder> hi daja77 
16:59 * blindcoder feels like he has lost any connection to his life... somehow...
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17:06 < blindcoder> looks like hwscan is broken >_<
17:06 < clifford> blindcoder: yes, it is. that's why I'm working on hwscan2.   ;-)
17:07 < blindcoder> d'oh...
17:07 < blindcoder> and I've wasted half of the day on it >_<
17:07 < clifford> did you find any bug we could fix? hwscan2 will still need a while...
17:08 < clifford> http://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/hwscan/trunk/  .. is the current hwscan2 status.
17:09 < blindcoder> asort(drivers); (line 324) breaks with "Internal Error"
17:09 < blindcoder> removing that line seems to make hwscan behave
17:10 < blindcoder> well, it's a fix which I can use in LVP at least :)
17:13 < clifford> Uh! This is funny... an awk bug?
17:13 < blindcoder> looks like that...
17:14 < blindcoder> found that after updating my lvp-trunk to HEAD this morning
17:14 < blindcoder> s/found/encountered/
17:19 < mnemoc> re all
17:22 < blindcoder> okay, without that single line it works again (just checked in vmware)
17:23 < rxr> hi clifford 
17:24 < rxr> does awk use flex ?
17:24 < mnemoc> damn flex :)
17:24 < rxr> no it doesn't (according to the .cache ...)
17:26 < mnemoc> new svn quote restored files :\
17:28 < clifford> rxr: I did some stuff the last days, the patches are in my local submaster at home:
17:28 < clifford> e.g. dependency calculation which hounors directories ...
17:29 < clifford> the only problem: my harddisc had a "soft crash" yesterday.  ;-(
17:30 < clifford> I'll try to fix it using "dft" today evening...
17:38 < daja77> hi clifford
17:41 < rxr> much fun updateing your kernels, see my mail to the list (in the case you did not yet know yet) ...
17:41 < daja77> gna
17:42 < daja77> i just installed my (old) rtrock build on a machine, thing is initrd is missing, and mkinitrd too ...
17:42 < daja77> strange thing is that it worked well on another machine O_o
18:03 * daja77 goin home now
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18:27 < A-Tui> hi all
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19:08 < jluster> .e is looking for ripclaw
19:08 < jluster> is he coming in here, any?
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19:29 < daja77> re
19:31 < rxr> gpri
19:31 < rxr> oops - sorry
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19:32 < MadTux> re\
19:32 < daja77> hi MadTux 
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19:36 < MadTux> oi wavefunction
19:38 < rolla> ola MadTux 
19:38 < wavefunction> ola MadTux. De onde es ?
19:39 < rolla> nein
19:39 < MadTux> greetings rolla und daja77
19:39 < daja77> huh?
19:39 < daja77> hi rolla
19:40 < rolla> hallo daja77 
19:40 < MadTux> wavefunction, eu so de Costa Rica
19:40 < wavefunction> E sabe falar portugues ? :)
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19:43 < MadTux> Sim eu falo
19:43 < MadTux> urrg he's gone
19:44 < daja77> hehe you scared him
19:45 < rolla> :)
19:46 < A-Tui> MadTux, fine portugues :)
19:46 < MadTux> A-Tui, thanks :)
19:46 < MadTux> how are u A-Tui?
19:46 < A-Tui> MadTux, today i found a missing dog
19:46 < MadTux> daja77, no, it was rolla greeting in german :)
19:46 < A-Tui> and now i have it at home
19:47 < MadTux> dog?
19:47 < A-Tui> yes, ouside the city
19:47 < A-Tui> it's a hunter's dog
19:47 < MadTux> NICE
19:47 < A-Tui> it's very old and anyone leave it alone
19:47 < MadTux> would u borrow me ur dog? I would like to give daja77 a visit ..
19:48 < MadTux> mmm... well it still bites right?
19:48 < MadTux> :)
19:48 < A-Tui> MadTux, i think not :)
19:48 < A-Tui> it's very quiet
19:48 < A-Tui> and very lovely
19:48 < MadTux> grrr
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19:48 < daja77> hmm MadTux  needs a dog to visit me, ther is sth wrong with him ...
19:49 < A-Tui> :)
19:49 < wavefunction> what kind of init scripts form rocklinux uses : 
19:49 < wavefunction> 'system v' or 'bsd' ?
19:49 < daja77> sysv
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19:54 < blindcoder> it'd be much more polite if that guy would stay after he has his answer
19:54 < daja77> and it would be even nicier noit to thank me in a query
19:54 < daja77> not
19:55 < A-Tui> what a strange guy
19:56 < MadTux> mmm... guess he is shy
19:56 < MadTux> A-Tui, well we are sorrounded by lots strange guys.. freaks even..
19:57 < daja77> <- freak
19:57 < A-Tui> :)
19:58 < A-Tui> sure, world is full of strange people
19:58 < MadTux> yeah... there are still lots of mortals here.. but I'm liking this freaks like daja77 or blindcoder so its fine
19:59 * MadTux hides
19:59 < daja77> he thanked me like i helped him to save the world O_o
19:59 < MadTux> daja77, hehehe
20:00 < MadTux> daja77, well tell him u are God, and u accept gratitud with gold and cash only
20:00 < A-Tui> haha then a good God
20:01 < MadTux> hehe
20:01 < MadTux> ambicious God :)
20:01 < daja77> hehe
20:02 < A-Tui> MadTux, i think like "all" Gods
20:02 < MadTux> Lord Daja :)
20:02 < A-Tui> :)
20:02 < MadTux> BTW u can't forget about the daily virgin sacrifice
20:03 < daja77> sounds nice
20:03 < A-Tui> what sounds like, the virgin or the sacrifice?
20:04 < A-Tui> or both together :)
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20:04 < daja77> well she doesn'tr have to die ....
20:04 < A-Tui> :)
20:05 < A-Tui> tiem to walk the dogs
20:05 < A-Tui> cu
20:05 < A-Tui> time
20:05 * A-Tui is away: Al vent
20:05 < daja77> thing is after the sacrifice she is no virgin anymore :D
20:16 < blindcoder> ore wa freak ja nai!
20:16 < daja77> O_o
20:17 < MadTux> blindcoder, hehe
20:17 < blindcoder> (I'm not a freak; with some "nachdruck" :)
20:17 < MadTux> ni hao ma blindcoder?
20:17 < blindcoder> konban wa, MadTux-san.
20:17 < daja77> of course you are
20:18 < blindcoder> NAI!
20:18 < MadTux> ni meil hao?
20:18 < blindcoder> I may not have a life, but I'm still not a freak!
20:18 < MadTux> hehe
20:18 < MadTux> AFM
20:18 < MadTux> Anti Fream Movement
20:18 < daja77> blindcoder: what makes you that sure?
20:18 < MadTux> Freak*
20:18 < blindcoder> MadTux: well, life sucks, haven't been out of the house in over 50 hours and so...
20:19 < blindcoder> daja77: I've only been to one geek-show a year :D
20:19 < MadTux> blindcoder, well isn't it actually nice to not see people..
20:19 < MadTux> ?
20:19 < blindcoder> MadTux: only if you have something else to do with your time, not when you're bored to death
20:19 < MadTux> blindcoder, geek-show? you mean the shareware party?
20:19 < blindcoder> MadTux: yeah :)
20:26 < mnemoc> re
20:26 < mnemoc> is linux 2.4.24's chekcusm ok?
20:27 < MadTux> i don't know, why don't u check?
20:27 < MadTux> :)
20:27 < MadTux> hi mnemoc
20:27 < blindcoder> I see no reason why it shouldn't
20:37 < mnemoc> i'm connected by 28.8 modem
20:37 < blindcoder> BWAHAHAHA
20:37 < blindcoder> sorry ;)
20:37 < mnemoc> i could get it damaged :)
20:38 < mnemoc> brb... i need to save bw ;)
20:44 < rxr> mnemoc: I did a download + checksum patch
20:44 < rxr> you get another checksum ?
20:47 < blindcoder> UWAAAAH
20:48 < blindcoder> The quality of Inu Yasha quickly decreases around ep 45 - 50
20:48 < rxr> blindcoder: ?
20:49 < blindcoder> rxr: nothing important :)
20:50 < blindcoder> just got half of the series Inu Yasha at 20C3
20:51 < blindcoder> and the quality was quite good at first (an average 512x384) but now decreased to "mono-sound stamp-size" >_<
21:02 < rxr> those damned configure
21:02 < rxr> crap
21:02 < rxr> how can people invent such crap
21:02 < rxr> *grummeling*
21:02 < blindcoder> well.... it's GNU isn't it? :)
21:02 < blindcoder> GNU's Not Userfriendly
21:02 < rxr> me taking a bath - should be more relaxing then this xfsprogs borked configure crap
21:02 < blindcoder> but personally I quite like auto{conf,make}
21:02 < blindcoder> :)
21:03 < blindcoder> have fun
21:03 < rxr> nah - it's the hell
21:03 < rxr> GSMP will have s.th. different - maybe selfmade
21:03 < mnemoc> rxr: the file was damaged
21:03 < rxr> mnemoc: yours?
21:03 < mnemoc> yep
21:03 < mnemoc> damn modem
21:03 < rxr> blindcoder: when selfmade then fully bash-based, readable - with reall functions and plug-ins - not this one big substituted around mess
21:04 < rxr> mnemoc: oh - much luck
21:04 * rxr away
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22:16 < drz> hi
22:17 < daja77> hi drz 
22:18 < drz> is it possible to select older packages with rock
22:18 < daja77> which?
22:19 < drz> for example i would like to compile my system with gcc 2.95.3 (+propolice), glibc 2.2.5
22:19 < daja77> you can select this in scripts/Config
22:20 * MadTux off
22:20 < MadTux> cya
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22:20 < rxr> drz: but you might see some compile bugs if you use the old gcc and glibc since we do not test it often anymore ...
22:21 < drz> yes, but is there any reason (if it has worked in the past), why it should be broken now?
22:22 < daja77> programs changed their code to comply with gcc3.x so some might be broken with older gcc now
22:22 < drz> oh like that...
22:22 < drz> but... aren't older versions of certain software still available?
22:24 < daja77> sure, but why should one want that
22:27 < drz> well it's an old machine... slow.. gcc 2.95 seems to be faster...
22:28 < daja77> you could build it on a faster machine and inatll it on the slow machine afterwards
22:30 < drz> well i could do that
22:30 < drz> but there another thing...
22:30 < drz> i assume XFS can be used as FileSystem for Rock?
22:31 < daja77> yes
22:31 < drz> well
22:31 < drz> XFS+GCC3.x+Linux2.4 don't mix wel
22:31 < daja77> why
22:32 < drz> there's a ODIRECT bug in the 2.4 kernel which only shows itself when compiled by gcc 3.x for the i586 target (i want i586)
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22:32 < daja77> never heard of that
22:32 < daja77> which kernel and which gcc?
22:32 < drz> now you have...
22:32 < drz> gcc 3.x (for -march=586)+ kernel 2.4 
22:33 < drz> i've tested gcc 3.2.3 -march=586 + kernel 2.4.22 myself...
22:33 < drz> didn't try gcc 3.3 yet...
22:33 < drz> but according to people... the bug isn't in gcc, but in the kernel itself... (2.6 doesn't suffer from it)
22:35 < daja77> there patches googlke tells me, and intereting thing is those pataches are for 2.6
22:35 < daja77> there are
22:36 < daja77> there some for old 2.4 kernels too
22:37 * blindcoder bed
22:38 < daja77> give gcc-3.2.3 and linux-2.4.24 a chance
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22:40 < drz> well... my problem is that i just might waste an entire day just to find out that it doesn't owrk
22:41 < daja77> you can search for a patch, put into linux24 directory before the build
22:42 < drz> i'm not sure if there even is a patch for this problem... it's quite well known amongst xfs users... (more or less)
22:43 < daja77> ^^
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23:11 < daja77> n8 you all
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23:27 < evangineer> Hi, just wondering how solid 2.00rc2 and how far away 2.00final is?
23:32 < rxr> evangineer: all rc's should be quite solid
23:33 < rxr> -rc3 is already available in binary form (should be announced now)
23:33 < rxr> and -rc4 already tagged
23:33 < netrunne1> isn't rc2 missing an essential package?
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23:33 < rxr> final in some weeks
23:33 < rxr> netrunner: only the official generic build since it missed some showstopper fixes
23:33 < rxr> my desktop contains them
23:34 < netrunner> rxr: ah, ok.
23:34 < rxr> me away
23:34 < netrunner> anybody knows the tiscaly tdsl flat? /me want's to get rid of the 5g limit ;)
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23:44 < evangineer> rxr: thanks for the info!
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