--- Log opened Sat Jan 10 00:00:47 2004
00:00 < daja77> grrr how can i see which version of sm i have installed
00:11 < daja77> bash-2.05b# sm create http://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-linux/trunk/ clt-trunk
00:11 < daja77> Can't get current revision number for http://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-linux/trunk/.ba
00:11 < daja77> O_o
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00:45 < rxr> python vs. paragui should be fine now
00:45 < rxr> commit in some minutes
00:50 * daja77 has no svn atm
00:51 < rxr> error% should then be 0.955110
00:55 < daja77> btw do we have sbn 0.35.1 now?
00:55 < daja77> svn that is
00:58 < rxr> no - it only includes a tiny windows fix - so I did not pull it ..
01:01 < daja77> ah k.
01:02 < daja77> gimp fails cos it requires fontconfig >= 2
01:03 < rxr> daja77: is fixed in SVN HEAD
01:03 < rxr> daja77: rebuild xfree86
01:04 < rxr> SVN HEAD should only yield this errors (paragui vs. python shared files already removed from the stat - but not yet committed):#
01:04 < rxr> http://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/service/regtest/reference/2004-01-09/
01:04 < daja77> good idea to do this now?
01:05 < rxr> committed
01:05 < rxr> daja77: I needed to wait for a final verification before the commit ...
01:06 < rxr> now trying an updated dosemu
01:06 < rxr> maybe I can redruce the error count even further tonight
01:07 < daja77> huh which commit? confused now
01:07 < daja77> ah d'oh
01:07 < daja77> you _waited_, got it
01:08 < daja77> Create-Errlist -newdelete would do the trick i hope
01:09 < esden> hi all ... I have a question ... which file does make use for timestamp?
01:10 < daja77> hi esden
01:10 < rxr> hi esden 
01:10 < esden> ohh ... sorry I think I know now ...
01:10 < esden> the target file ;)
01:11 < esden> am I right?
01:12 < daja77> WARNING: Could not stat file build/generic-2.0.0-rc5-x86-pentium-mmx-32-generic-expert/root/boot/initrd.img.
01:13 < daja77> defintely more than 5 package reschuduled :(
01:14 < rxr> daja77: when you do a -newdelete ...
01:14 < rxr> I did not claim that a newdelete will just touch those few files
01:15 < daja77> then i screw weverything +ggg*
01:16 < daja77> doesn't matter aas long as the result is painlees dsitro than rc2 :)
01:16 < daja77> running Buil-Target and and Download in parallel
01:17 < daja77> n8 you all
01:18 < esden> n8 daja77 
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01:49 < rxr> hm - dosemu might be fixed in some minutes ..., too
01:57 < rxr> commited
02:25 < rxr> doing a monster .cache commit
02:34 < SMP> while I'm on dialup ;-\
02:34 < rxr> wait a second
02:34 < rxr> or days
02:35 < rxr> a copyright .cache is following, now ...
02:35 < rxr> (I know this could have been combined - but overlook the copyright was not updated)
02:41 < rxr> ok - off to bed now ... - cu
02:47 < A-Tui> what's the meaning of this portion of code?
02:47 < A-Tui>  # check for files in /usr/local
02:47 < A-Tui> it's in Build-Pkg
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02:52 < _MadTux_> re
02:52 < A-Tui> hi mike
02:52 < _MadTux_> Hola Aitor
02:52 < _MadTux_> :)
02:52 < A-Tui> i have a little problem
02:52 < A-Tui> i'm adding a package
02:52 < A-Tui> it's a very simple one
02:52 < _MadTux_> and what is your problem?
02:52 < _MadTux_> perhaps i can try to help you
02:52 < A-Tui> but it fails when check  # check for files in /usr/local
02:52 < A-Tui> in Build-Pkg
02:53 < A-Tui> this portion of code what check exactly?
02:53 < _MadTux_> mm?
02:53 < A-Tui> Making post-install adaptions.
02:53 < A-Tui> Found files in /usr/local:
02:53 < _MadTux_> i need more than that
02:53 < A-Tui> and folow the files
02:53 < _MadTux_> please mail me ur .err file
02:53 < A-Tui> ok
02:53 < A-Tui> one moment
02:53 < _MadTux_> ok.
02:55 < A-Tui> what addrees, at co,cr?
02:55 < _MadTux_> no longer use those
02:55 < _MadTux_> use mike@rocklinux.org
02:56 < A-Tui> ok
02:56 < _MadTux_> ;-)
02:56 < _MadTux_> ping mnemoc
02:57 < A-Tui> sent
02:57 < _MadTux_> checking
02:59 < _MadTux_> ah :)
02:59 < _MadTux_> it means that there are some already existing files on those directories
03:00 < _MadTux_> you are running Build-Pkg?
03:00 < A-Tui> yes
03:00 < A-Tui> but i del that files before again
03:00 < _MadTux_> as part of a full build, or just for that specific package?
03:00 < A-Tui> just for that target
03:00 < A-Tui> in a installed system
03:00 < _MadTux_> can i see ur .conf file of this package?
03:01 < A-Tui> i hace no .conf :)
03:01 < A-Tui> have
03:01 < _MadTux_> hehe
03:01 < _MadTux_> so its quite simple
03:01 < _MadTux_> wait.
03:01 < A-Tui> yes it very very simple
03:02 < A-Tui> i can send you the .desc if you want to test it
03:02 < _MadTux_> did u remove /usr/local/bin/wmbday ?
03:02 < A-Tui> yes
03:02 < _MadTux_> send me the .desc file i want to test this
03:03 < A-Tui> ok
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03:04 < _MadTux_> Maybe u want to disable paranoid checks on ur conf stuff and test again?>
03:04 < A-Tui> mmmm let met try
03:05 < _MadTux_> ok
03:05 < A-Tui> the .desc is sent
03:06 < _MadTux_> ok, but first u give a try at it as in the way suggested :)
03:07 < A-Tui> mmm what config file looks for when the system is yet installed?
03:08 < _MadTux_> well to build ur package u had to run ./scripts/Cconfig  first right?
03:08 < _MadTux_> just re run it and nearly in the end of the expert options u have the option to disable this option (paranoia checks)
03:09 < A-Tui> yes i know where is, but i had not config created
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03:09 < A-Tui> when i install my build it was deleted
03:10 < _MadTux_> u need to make a new one..
03:11 < A-Tui> the same error
03:12 < A-Tui> install -c -m 0644 wmbday.1 /usr/local/man/man1
03:12 < A-Tui> look that, it seem that there's not man1 dir so copy wmbday.1 to man1
03:13 < _MadTux_> hehe
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03:13 < _MadTux_> mkdir -p /usr/local/man/man1
03:13 < A-Tui> yes that should be in the .conf true?
03:13 < _MadTux_> u may want to create a .conf file if the problem persist on other systems
03:13 < A-Tui> hola nookie
03:14 < _MadTux_> Greetings n00kie
03:14 < A-Tui> well that was fixed but the problem continues
03:15 < A-Tui> i have the files installed but the package shows .err
03:15 < _MadTux_> u created the directory already?
03:16 < A-Tui> yes
03:16 < A-Tui> and know creates the good manpage
03:16 < A-Tui> now
03:17 < _MadTux_> but there is still a .err file?
03:17 < A-Tui> yes
03:18 < A-Tui> i can't understand why it found the files
03:18 < _MadTux_> what error now?
03:18 < A-Tui> the same
03:18 < _MadTux_> dunno its weird..
03:18 < _MadTux_> i will test in some minutes
03:18 < A-Tui> i think it check it after the install
03:20 < A-Tui> mike now without paranoia check runs ok
03:20 < _MadTux_> :)
03:20 < A-Tui> but it's very weird that error :/
03:21 < _MadTux_> i'll be back in a bit. need to finish something
03:21 < A-Tui> ok :)
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03:33 < netcrow> hm?
03:34 < netcrow> mh
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04:50 < lowks_> hello quick question 
04:50 < lowks_> does rock have a package manager ala apt-get 
04:50 < lowks_> can it keep my apps updated ?
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05:59 < lowks_> helo ?
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08:27 < cytrinox`> moin
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09:05 < netrunner> moin
09:06 < netrunner> lowks_: you can update your rock source and then rebuild the package, or download an updated package if someone provides you with one.
10:41 * netrunner about to start local cluster
10:41 < netrunner> hahaha Package anjuta has 163 dependencies. I don't believe this.
10:46 < netrunner> grumpf, why dos it spit to stdout :(
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12:41 < LocalHero> Hi all
12:41 < LocalHero> Could anybody tell me how you disconnect a machine from the cluster build. The main jobhandler says its still there :(
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13:33 < mnemoc> moin
13:41 < blindcoder> moin
13:41 < mnemoc> hi blindcoder 
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14:12 < daja77> moin
14:16 < mnemoc> moin daja77 
14:16 < daja77> hey mnemoc 
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14:23 < daja77> updating apache and subversion is always a pain
14:24 < blindcoder> you can update the nethack package for me so I won't have to endure so much pain :)
14:24 < blindcoder> and since you're already used to it :)
14:24 < daja77> pain is that they changed repository layout again!!
14:24 < blindcoder> oh
14:25 < daja77> <- has local repos, otherwise it wouldn't hurt
14:25 < daja77> but i have to update in order to use submaster, grrr
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14:42 < daja77> weee repos back online
14:47 < mnemoc> Can't get current revision number for svn://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-linux/trunk/.
14:47 < mnemoc> arg :(
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14:56 < daja77> sm?
14:59 < mnemoc> yep
15:00 < daja77> had this error yesterday too, which svn version you are using?
15:01 < mnemoc> o_O
15:01 < mnemoc> 0.30 ;)
15:01 < mnemoc> damn abandon box 
15:03 < daja77> you need 0.35
15:04 < daja77> bash-2.05b# sm create http://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-linux/trunk clt-rock
15:04 < daja77> Dumping revision 2170 from master ...
15:04 < daja77> >> ERROR Running 'svn export -r 2170 http://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-linux/trunk clt-rock' !!
15:04 < daja77> grrr
15:06 < mnemoc> should i add cliff's patch to package/subvserion?
15:07 < daja77> guess so
15:07 < daja77> damn that's missing here
15:08 < daja77> ok rebuilding
15:09 < daja77> cool mnemoc made a links package
15:12 < mnemoc> but directfb is broken :(
15:13 < mnemoc> disable it or add svgalib
15:23 < daja77> *sigh* seems that sm is broken
15:25 < mnemoc> you need the most recient version :)
15:25 < daja77> got it
15:25 < daja77> at least i think so
15:25 < daja77> fetch 2h ago
15:25 < mnemoc> me too :(
15:29 < mnemoc> mmm... is smadm working????
15:29 < daja77> smadm?
15:29 < mnemoc> https://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/smadm.cgi
15:30 < daja77> ah that, dunno
15:31 < mnemoc> i did the first smadm comment :)
15:32 < daja77> hehe ;-)
15:34 < mnemoc> d'oh... oprofile package patch 'proposed' by clifford on smadm don't have checksum
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15:36 < mnemoc> this thing is fun :)
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15:58 < tcr> moin all
15:59 < mnemoc> moin tcr
16:17 < daja77> http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_853744.html
16:17 < daja77> rofl
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16:29 < LocalHero> Hi all
16:33 < mnemoc> hi LocalHero 
16:43 < LocalHero> mnemoc, hi, whazzup?
16:45 < LocalHero> mnemoc, have any experience with cluster build?
16:48 < mnemoc> yes but wont help :\
16:48 < mnemoc> MadTux is cluster guru :)
16:49 < LocalHero> mnemoc. Ahh, i see. I just wounder how you delete a jobnode :)
16:50 < LocalHero> Like if you dont want a computer to be part of the cluster-build anymore. Shutting it down will not do the thing. The jobmanager still thinks it there
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17:00 < mnemoc> LocalHero: i have no idea :(
17:10 < daja77> netrunner did cluster builds in the last weeks
17:17 < daja77> weee sm works with svn protocol
17:17 < mnemoc> yep :)
17:18 < daja77> one should say that it doesn'T with http
17:18 < mnemoc> it doesn't??
17:18 < mnemoc> o_O
17:18 < daja77> with http i get that error I mentioned in that mail
17:19 < mnemoc> i'll reply about svn
17:19 < mnemoc> svn://
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17:25 < daja77> tell me when sent, so that i can comment it perhaps
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17:29 < mnemoc> sent :)
17:40 < daja77> mnemoc: of course typos happen, i didn't want to blame him, just point it out to avoid confusion for others who try :)
17:42 < mnemoc> did i want to blame someone? ;)
17:43 < daja77> no, just wanted to let you know
17:44 < mnemoc> i was kidding :(
17:44 < daja77> hm?
17:44 < mnemoc> sm does 2 revisions per revision
17:44 < mnemoc> daja77: forget it
17:52 < daja77> how long took Importing to local repository ... for you?
17:54 < mnemoc> mm.. like half an hour, but i'm a bad reference
17:54 < daja77> d'oh
17:54 < mnemoc> i'll time it next time
17:54 < daja77> nah i was just wondering
17:56 < daja77> ah finished
17:58 < daja77> sigh clifford made more typos in his quick doc
17:59 < daja77> oh no, i was wrong, forget it
17:59 < blindcoder> daja77: can your svn handle http://?
18:00 < blindcoder> I know that mine can't
18:00 < daja77> yes i normally co rock over http
18:00 < daja77> so that i don't have to update svn every time
18:00 < blindcoder> ok, just thought that maybe that was the problem you are experiencing
18:02 < daja77> hm testing if 0.35 can do http as well
18:03 < daja77> ah yes it worked with my local repos over http
18:03 < daja77> but fails with others
18:03 < daja77> bash-2.05b# svn up
18:03 < daja77> Speicherzugriffsfehler (core dumped)
18:03 < daja77> bash-2.05b#
18:04 < daja77> d'oh
18:04 < mnemoc> hahaah
18:04 < mnemoc> Speicherzugriffsfehler <-- can you translate? :(
18:05 < daja77> segmentation fault
18:05 < daja77> The following repository access (RA) modules are available:
18:05 < daja77> * ra_dav : Module for accessing a repository via WebDAV (DeltaV) protocol.
18:05 < daja77>   - handles 'http' schema
18:05 < daja77> * ra_local : Module for accessing a repository on local disk.
18:05 < daja77>   - handles 'file' schema
18:05 < daja77> * ra_svn : Module for accessing a repository using the svn network protocol.
18:05 < daja77>   - handles 'svn' schema
18:05 < daja77> it says it does, argl
18:07 < tcr> daja77, you do run svn as root?
18:07 < daja77> yes
18:07 < tcr> The thing is I do, too. And I tend to download rock-pkgs via root, too, and I'm not all that happy about that actually
18:08 < daja77> well i'd be happy if svn would work at all over http, whether as root or not
18:08 < mnemoc> Build-Target *could* ask for `su` if not run as root
18:08 < mnemoc> letting us live as $luser
18:09 < daja77> so what, that would not be an improvement
18:09 < mnemoc> be always $root is dangerous
18:09 < tcr> That's not  the problem... I can recall it caused various failures if you have a rock-src-tree as user and download pkgs as user and then try to build pkgs
18:09 < tcr> Last I tested was quite a while ago though
18:10 < daja77> mnemoc: i work as a user, have root console for rock
18:10 < tcr> No sorry that wasn't the problem (just remembering)
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18:11 < tcr> the problem was that if you do most stuff as user and then run build-pkg as root, it will change some permissions which will cause problems later when trying to do things as user again
18:12 < tcr> It was quite PITA to run su -c 'chown -R tcr .' everytime again and again
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18:37 < daja77> blindcoder: you were right, http is supported, but it always crashes that's why it didn't work
18:37 < daja77> >_<
18:41 < daja77> strange this is local repos work nice with the browser >_>
18:41 < daja77> >_<
18:43 < daja77> could that be cliffords patch
18:44 < blindcoder> mplayer 1.0pre3 is seriously buggy
18:46 * blindcoder watching Mothy Python (finally)
18:47 < daja77> which movie?
18:50 < blindcoder> The Holy Grail
18:50 < daja77> :)
18:50 < daja77> LVP disc?
18:51 < blindcoder> not yet
18:51 < blindcoder> just for archival and sending-to-.cr purposes :)
18:51 < daja77> ^^
18:51 < blindcoder> It's a PITA to send something to .cr
18:51 < daja77> never tried
18:52 < daja77> encrypted disc, i guess?
18:52 < blindcoder> you have to sign forms at the post office >_<
18:53 < blindcoder> no, I couldn't decide on a good passphrase
18:53 < daja77> :D
18:54 < blindcoder> so for the "Zoll" I just stated "4 Linux Live-System DVDs, Value: 5 EUR"
18:54 < daja77> sucks
18:54 < blindcoder> yeah, we all know that Linux is "unbezahlbar" :)
18:55 < daja77> ;-)
18:56 < blindcoder> that reminds me... I should start moving my >300 Anime CDs to ~90 LVPs :)
18:56 < daja77> d'oh
18:57 < blindcoder> yeah, Zero is already bugging me about the CDs, he wants to have them once I'm done
19:01 < daja77> it is not clifford's patch, sucks
19:01 < blindcoder> :(
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19:35 < rxr> re
19:37 < daja77> wb rxr
19:38 * daja77 hopes this svn nightmare is over soon
19:38 < rxr> svn nightmare ?
19:39 < daja77> svn 0.35 is crashing over http here
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19:50 < mistik1> that is the one thing i loath about svn
19:50 < daja77> d'oh have an old neon, guess that is the problem
19:51 < mistik1> That dependency of mod_dav blows monkey chunks
19:51 < daja77> hi mistik1 
19:51 < mistik1> I just run svnserve -R for anon and svn+ssh for auth users
19:51 < mistik1> hey daja77 
19:52 < daja77> :)
20:00 < daja77> why the heck svn links against old neon, even when configure says this will not work
20:00 < daja77> would have saved me hours, when the build just had failed
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20:06 < raphael> hi all
20:06 < daja77> hi raphael 
20:07 < raphael> i posted a mail about glibc2.3.3 a while ago, anyone knows what's wrong?
20:10 < daja77> weee it works again
20:10 * daja77 jumps around
20:10 * Aard jumps around daja77 
20:10 < daja77> hey Aard 
20:10 < Aard> hi daja77 :)
20:17 < mnemoc> re
20:17 < daja77> wb mnemoc 
20:17 < mnemoc> raphael: there is no glibc2.3.3 yet
20:17 < raphael> ld tries to link against gcc_eh, but this library does not exist....
20:17 < mnemoc> raphael: there is no tagged version
20:17 < raphael> oh
20:17 < raphael> I'll check it ;)
20:18 < raphael> I know, I'm using the test tree from rene, but I'll have another look at the src to check the version
20:18 < mnemoc> somedistros had randomly choosen an snapshot as 'prerelease'
20:18 < mnemoc> to be ready for it when 2.3.3 get release
20:19 < daja77> fear it!
20:19 < raphael> [V] 2.3.3-2003-12-23
20:19 < mnemoc> we are doing the same on a branch, but can't use a random-snapshot as official libc (some distros love to do that)
20:20 < mnemoc> raphael: we have our own random-snapshot to test
20:20 < raphael> ok
20:20 < raphael> I thought I'll test this tree
20:20 < mnemoc> but don't build on x86 :\
20:20 < raphael> but if noone has an idea why it doesn't build and if it isn't even an official build....
20:20 < mnemoc> raphael: do a regular checkout and then switch package/base/glibc23
20:20 < raphael> thanks for the info anyway
20:21 < raphael> I'll switch back to the glibc232
20:21 < mnemoc> that branch is not a complete tree
20:21 < mnemoc> oh.
20:21 < mnemoc> you are already using it ;) i got it now
20:21 < raphael> yes :)
20:22 < raphael> but it doesn't even build (see mail)
20:22 < mnemoc> it build on ppc :\
20:22 < raphael> great, good for you
20:23 < mnemoc> good for rene... i'm x86 too
20:23 < raphael> the reason it seems (to me) is that ld tries to link against the non-existent gcc_eh
20:23 < raphael> yes, lucky him,
20:23 < raphael> but the current QT 3.2.3 makes problem
20:23 < raphael> on ppc
20:24 < raphael> how can I switch back my glibc branch... anyone knows?
20:24 < daja77> yes
20:26 < daja77> just the way you switched to it, just using trunk again
20:27 < raphael> ah, fine
20:29 < mnemoc> daja77: time sm create svn://
20:29 < mnemoc> real    42m44.512s
20:29 < mnemoc> user    0m33.810s
20:29 < mnemoc> sys     0m24.410s
20:29 < daja77> :)
20:29 < daja77> svn://?
20:30 < mnemoc> time sm create svn://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-linux/trunk rock-2.2 :)
20:30 < daja77> hehe
20:41 * rxr what ? ...
20:42 < rxr> ah
20:42 * rxr read back a bit
20:42 < mnemoc> svn.rocklinux-consulting.de :)
20:42 < mnemoc> using a 512/128 adsl
20:43 < mnemoc> that's why i proposed 'sm import'
20:46 < mnemoc> rxr: can svn handle symlinks?
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21:28 < rxr> mnemoc: sym-links are not yet treated specially (I think)
21:30 < mnemoc> rxr: do u know if it's on their todo?
21:31 < tcr> Say, does the cluster build work with semi-cross architectures? like having one p3 and one athlon xp or some similiar constellation?
21:31 < tcr> Or does it only work using the most common denominator, ie. i386?
21:33 < mnemoc> isn't p2 the common denominator between p3 and athlon xp?
21:33 < rxr> tcr: of course the binaries need to run on all boxes
21:34 < rxr> so i686 or i586-mmx should work in your case
21:35 < mnemoc> rxr: [PATCH] with atachment or [PATCH] with href to smadm? ;)
21:36 < owl> moin
21:36 < mnemoc> moin owl
21:37 < owl> hi mnemoc 
21:37 < rxr> mnemoc: smadm=
21:37 < rxr> ?
21:38 < rxr> hi owl
21:38 < mnemoc> https://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/smadm.cgi
21:38 < owl> hi rxr 
21:39 < rxr> ah yeah - sure
21:39 < rxr> sure Submaster is the prefered way ...
21:39 < rxr> or will become it ...
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21:45 < tcr> rxr: sorry that I haven't verified the xfce upgrade yet (as I do usually) -- I'm gonna do that right away
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22:56 < cytrinox`> moin
22:56 < mnemoc> moin cytrinox` 
22:58 < rxr> cu - n8 all
23:02 < mnemoc> cu rxr
23:31 < mnemoc> aaaarg.... *never* do svn commit on an sm :(
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23:50 < daja77> what happened?
23:50 < mnemoc> i did svn commit by mistake
23:50 < mnemoc> now that delta is in limbo :-\
23:50 < mnemoc> btw, i did *4* svn commit :(
23:50 < mnemoc> do u know how to 'undo' them?
23:50 < mnemoc> i did svn -r to last well done commit...
23:50 < mnemoc> but the sm commit...
23:50 < mnemoc> Sending        package/base/linux24-src/linux24-src.conf
23:50 < mnemoc> svn: Commit failed (details follow):
23:50 < mnemoc> svn: out of date: '/package/base/linux24-src/linux24-src.conf' in transaction 'h'
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