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00:01 < mnemoc> daja77: /join #svn solved the problem ;)
00:02 < daja77> hehe
00:02 < daja77> ic
00:03 < mnemoc> =)
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00:19 < jsaw> re
00:21 < daja77> hi jsa^
00:21 < daja77> jsaw
00:23 < jsaw> hi daja77 
00:37 < daja77> blindcoder: ?
00:41 < mnemoc> hi jsaw 
00:43 < jsaw> hi mnemoc 
00:44 < mnemoc> jsaw: i'm waiting your reply :)
00:44 < jsaw> hacking on it :)
00:45 < mnemoc> great ;)
00:45 < daja77> hm?
00:45 < mnemoc> rocknet/pppoe
00:45 < daja77> what about rocknet/isdn ...
00:46 < mnemoc> as rene said, 'who ask will code it'
00:46 < jsaw> the one who asks? :))
00:46 < jsaw> mnemoc was faster...
00:46 < mnemoc> ;)
00:47 < mnemoc> jsaw: we need to add ip-up and ip-down scripts too, at least for usednspeer
00:48 < jsaw> how? from rocknet or as default scripts in the package?
00:48 < mnemoc> default scripts in the package
00:49 < jsaw> I was actually thinking about a basic multiplexer ip-{up,down} to ip-{up,down}.$if...
00:50 < daja77> i'd do it, have no time atm :(
00:51 < mnemoc> :\
00:51 < mnemoc> jsaw: dns is common, .$if is rocknet generated... isn't it?
00:54 < mnemoc> i had a magic 'anti-spoof' code we can add some day
00:54 < mnemoc> s/had/have/
00:54 < jsaw> no, I mean the pppd tty argument in that case. so "pppd [args] ppp0 [args]" would give ip-up.ppp0
00:54 < jsaw> for pppoe, this would be ip-up.eth0
00:54 < mnemoc> oh... i was thinking in allow/deny stuff
00:54 < jsaw> oh, wait, lemma explain.
00:54 < jsaw> I'm currently implementing the "interface ppp0" thing, you're right that's better.
00:55 < mnemoc> :)
00:56 < jsaw> But I was thinking how get multiple instances of pppd running. Just in case somebody want's to do it. A multiplexer for ip-up and ip-down would be needed.
00:57 < mnemoc> it's not to hard to have 2 pppoe link in the same machine... tc rules ;)
00:57 < mnemoc> hard: hard to find a case
00:59 < mnemoc> even... i had once a 3 pppoe + 1 emergency dialup on a router
01:00 < mnemoc> will you code that multiplexer now?
01:00 < mnemoc> i whould love to see your code ;)
01:00 < jsaw> on the phone, plz stand by...
01:00 < mnemoc> ok
01:03 < jsaw> re. well, first I'll do the rocknet module. But I have an idea how I could do the {ip,auth}-{up,down} multiplexer...
01:05 < mnemoc> btw, we need to write a dhclient-script using iproute2
01:05 < daja77> lol
01:06 < mnemoc> lol? :(
01:06 < daja77> yeah you are saying that all the time ;-)
01:07 < mnemoc> i don't want to have ifconfig on my boxes... that s.th sucks
01:07 < mnemoc> my targets are not quite linux standard ;)
01:08 < daja77> 386?
01:08 < mnemoc> :(
01:08 < mnemoc> these 386 terminals will be etherbooteables
01:09 < mnemoc> i'm talking about my router target and server targets
01:09 < daja77> what do you want  to boot on them?
01:10 < mnemoc> linux :)
01:12 < daja77> you are weird
01:12 < mnemoc> :(
01:13 < daja77> 4mb ram? how should that work with linux?
01:15 < mnemoc> they boot dos from floppy, load netbeui support into a ramdisk, net use some crap and run a clipper program
01:16 < mnemoc> daja77: it should ;)
01:16 < daja77> linux 2.0?
01:16 < daja77> why does that company not buy new computers
01:16 < mnemoc> if i can't minimize 2.4 enough i'll have to add little more ram
01:16 < mnemoc> daja77: it's chile :\
01:16 < mnemoc> what hardware can you buy these days?? do you need that to run a dos/clipper based terminal?
01:16 < daja77> why you need dos/clipper stuff
01:17 < mnemoc> points of sale, storage i/o record, etc...
01:18 < daja77> what do you do, when the machines die?
01:23 < mnemoc> they have that over lot of DBF file... with a nt3.5 server o_O
01:23 < mnemoc> they can't die :|
01:23 < daja77> you will use samba for that i guess
01:23 < mnemoc> phase 1: replace server with samba
01:23 < daja77> can't in the meaning of it would be a desaster if they do?
01:23 < mnemoc> pahse 2: migrate the whole s.th to postgres/clip
01:23 < daja77> ah now i understand why you added that clip stuff to rock
01:23 < mnemoc> daja77: the hard part is to add tcp/ip support to that ramdisk
01:23 < daja77> true
01:23 < mnemoc> mstcp is fat
01:23 < mnemoc> that's why i can get better results with a micro-linux
01:23 < mnemoc> micro-rock-linux :)
01:23 < mnemoc> ehm... they are turning lights off
01:23 < daja77> hm?
01:23 * mnemoc thinks it's time to go home
01:23 < daja77> hehe
01:23 < daja77> ok cu
01:23 < mnemoc> cu soon :)
01:23 < jsaw> that's a clear sign :)
01:23 < jsaw> cu
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01:32 < A-Tui> hi all
01:33 < daja77> hi A-Tui 
01:33 < A-Tui> hola daja77
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02:19 < jsaw> testing pppoe scripts now, cu l8r
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02:22 < mnemoc> re
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03:02 < mnemoc> gn8
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03:04 < jsaw> re
03:20 < mnemoc> wb jsaw 
03:24 < jsaw> hi mnemoc 
03:24 < jsaw> mnemoc: pppoe test succeded here, email sent to you and rxr, me now damn tired...
03:25 < mnemoc> thanks a lot jsaw :)
03:25 < jsaw> gn8 
03:26 < mnemoc> pppoe iface [... <-- looks ver robust ;)
03:26 < mnemoc> gn8 jsaw 
03:27 < jsaw> robust?
03:27 < jsaw> well no, I shouldn't start a conversation, I don't anything anyway... :)
03:28 < mnemoc> yep.. the first impression with that kind of stuff is 'this is a very well thought s.th' :)
03:28 < jsaw> s/don't anything/don't get anything/
03:28 < mnemoc> go to sleep jsaw 
03:28 < jsaw> bye bye
03:28 < mnemoc> bye
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06:20 < cytrinox`> morgn
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10:06 < daja77> moin
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10:18 < holyolli> moin
10:18 < daja77> moin holyolli 
10:18 < holyolli> moin daja77
10:18 < daja77> ... and off again
10:18 < holyolli> cu...
10:26 < blindcoder> moin
10:26 < holyolli> moin blindcoder
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18:14 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now - http://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html
18:14 -!- Topic set by ChanServ  [Fri Jan  9 05:18:57 2004]
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18:14 [ Aard      ] [ cytrinox`] [ ija   ] [ mistik1    ] [ nookie] [ snyke] 
18:14 [ blindcoder] [ daja77   ] [ jsaw  ] [ mnemoc     ] [ owl_  ] [ tcr  ] 
18:14 [ bluefire  ] [ dsoul    ] [ k3t_  ] [ Nebukadneza] [ rolla ] [ true_] 
18:14 [ capchaos_ ] [ esden    ] [ kasc  ] [ netcrow    ] [ rxr   ] 
18:14 [ clifford  ] [ fake     ] [ lowks_] [ netrunner  ] [ SMP   ] 
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18:32 < netrunner> re
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18:43 < nos> hi there
18:44 < nos> can anyone tell me how to build a own package for rock?
18:45 < rxr> nos: yes - in a second
18:45 < nos> nice thx ;)
18:45 < rxr> re btw
18:49 < nos> brb ...
18:51 < rxr> nos: http://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/products/rock-handbook/html/rock-handbookse66.html
18:52 < rxr> and the wohle "http://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/products/rock-handbook/html/rock-handbookch20.html" section
18:56 < nos> thx ;)
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19:09 < rxr> nos: if you have questions not yet in the Handbook just ask here
19:09 < rxr> or send me a mail (if I'm away) to: rene@rocklinux.org ...
19:10 < nos> ok thx ;)
19:44 < rxr> nos: does it help out?
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20:00 < fake> nos: hi!
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20:01 < A-Tui> hi all
20:05 < nos> hi oh fake
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20:06 < LocalHero> Hi all
20:24 < rxr> hi LocalHero 
20:24 < rxr> hi fake 
20:24 < LocalHero> rxr, hi
20:25 < blindcoder> moin
20:25 < LocalHero> Arrgh, why does my script differ when running ./Build-Job -cfg boot -xdaemon and ./Build-Job -cfg boot -daemon :(
20:26 < LocalHero> blindcoder hi
20:27 < rxr> netrunner: around?
20:59 < netrunner> rxr: yes.
20:59 * netrunner writing 15 pages report until tomorrow 9am :(
21:03 < rxr> netrunner: I found out we still miss a photo of you in the develope galery - do you have a useable one
21:03 < rxr> or should I cut one from devel-conf or 20C3 pics ?
21:05 < blindcoder> are 20c3 pics already available?
21:05 < rxr> some from daja
21:05 < blindcoder> where? seems I missed that one...
21:05 < rxr> my camera was stolen (ro grabed by accident by someone else, borrow for a full lifetime - or whatever you want to name it ...)
21:06 < rxr> http://waterworld.dyndns.org/~andreas/publicgallery/20c3_daja_small.html
21:06 < rxr> netrunner: maybe the one from:
21:06 < rxr> http://waterworld.dyndns.org/~andreas/
21:10 < netrunner> rxr: I already mailed one to esden half a year ago, but he apparently didn't put it online. let me see ...
21:11 < rxr> just forward it to me and it will be online tonight ...
21:12 < blindcoder> that reminds me that I also have some pics from hannes' cam here
21:12 < blindcoder> http://scavenger.homeip.net/bilder/
21:19 < netrunner> rxr: sent.
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21:21 < holyolli> moin
21:35 < LocalHero> Wahoo, i think its working :)
21:40 < rxr> netrunner: has not yet arrived ...
21:41 < LocalHero> rxr, I now got the hotplug to work (i think) :)
21:42 < rxr> cluster-node hotplug ?
21:43 < LocalHero> rxr, yupp, well its not actually that advanced. It inserts the package that a node is makeing into the queue when get TERM signal
21:43 < LocalHero> rxr, now my standard computer can join my builds when its on :)
21:45 < rxr> jups - cool
21:45 < LocalHero> Finaly i made something usefull :)
21:49 < rxr> ;-)
21:52 < netrunner> rxr: not my fault: (reason: 553 5.7.1 {mx019} The recipient does not accept mails from 'web.de' over foreign mailservers)
21:53 < rxr> netrunner: damn gmx crap - I nearly disabled everything in this damn spam filtering stuff
21:53 < rxr> netrunner: can you send to my own private server via rene@rocklinux-consulting.de ;-) ?
21:54 < netrunner> rxr: ok, out again.
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22:08 < blindcoder> gn8
22:10 < netrunner> ni blindy
22:10 < netrunner> s/ni/n8/
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22:16 < rxr> netrunner: done - thanks
22:17 < netrunner> rxr: it is me who has to thank you :)
22:24 < owl_> moin
22:24 < holyolli> moin owl
22:24 < owl_> hi holyolli 
22:25 < owl_> someone knows with 2.6.1 (amd athlon thunderbird) the following message:
22:25 < owl_> essage from syslogd@thor at Mon Jan 12 02:13:25 2004 ...qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq
22:25 < owl_> thor kernel: MCE: The hardware reports a non fatal, correctable incident occurred on CPU 0.          
22:25 < owl_> ???
22:26 -!- true_ is now known as true
22:27 < LocalHero> does anybody know if a duron 1200 has the opti flag athlon xp?
22:28 < owl_> hi true 
22:28 < fake> hi owl_
22:28 < owl_> hi fake 
22:28 < daja77> <- on windows now :(
22:29 < owl_> *g* hi daja77 
22:29 < daja77> hi owl
22:29 < LocalHero> got to go, cya
22:30 < holyolli> cu LocalHero
22:30 < daja77> cu LocalHero 
22:30 < owl_> bye LocalHero 
22:30 < true> hi owl_ :p
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22:30 < owl_> true: :p
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22:34 < _spectre_> re
22:35 < daja77> grr i need a lspic on this platform
22:35 < daja77> lspci
22:41 < rxr> hi daja77 
22:44 < daja77> hi rxr
22:44 < daja77> grrr i need xp to test a scanner which doesn't work with sane, even when listed as supported
22:46 < _spectre_> ;) I need to start vmware win98 sometimes to reset my snapscan1212u - even though it's supportet, it sometimes stays openend forever for sane
22:51 < daja77> okm goin home again
22:56 < _spectre_> maybe one of You can do me a big favor and let me know how I can check a dynamic number of regex backreferences in Perl ? - Sorry for being off-topic, but I have no clue where and how to figure it out
22:57 < _spectre_> doing my $test = "\$$i"; and if(($test)) seems to do for checking if they're set, but I cannot get their contents in any way
23:06 < _spectre_> I think the construct $test = "\$$i" doesn't make sense at all, but I have no clue on how else I might tell the interpreter that I want to check and use a certain known number of backreferences   
23:23 < netrunner> my article won't grow :(
23:23 < daja77> re
23:24 < owl_> wb daja77 
23:26 < daja77> :)
23:26 < daja77> http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/images/dilbert20040111045651.jpg
23:27 * netrunner feels ill thinking about the next article that is due to thursday
23:27 < daja77> hi netrunner 
23:27 < netrunner> hi daja77 
23:28 < rxr> damn ALSA crap
23:28 < daja77> grr that reminds me that i need to upload the complete pciture set
23:28 < rxr> I had planed better things for this evening / night 
23:28 < rxr> damn C Unix crap
23:29 < rxr> maybe I should have start my own OS years ago ....
23:29 < daja77> .oO heard that recently from someone else
23:29 < netrunner> rxr: switch to hurd :b
23:30 < daja77> hrhr
23:30 < rxr> netrunner: even crappier C Unix-flavour crap ...
23:32 < rxr> me waiting for a un-optimized un-stripped ALSA build finshes on the iBook
23:32 < rxr> ....
23:33 < daja77> :(
23:33 < daja77> what made they wrong?
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23:34 < fake> rock plan9 support ? ;)
23:34 < rxr> ALSA ?
23:35 < rxr> http://www.mail-archive.com/alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net/msg09892.html
23:35 * netrunner suggests javaos :)
23:35 < fake> cool, alien2 on tv
23:36 < owl_> .oO( fake uses his tv too often )
23:36 < daja77> fake: hehe rock plan9 ... you are evil
23:36 < netrunner> hm. do the titlepage and index count to the # of pages?
23:38 < daja77> guess there is more to do than adding these two defines ...
23:38 < holyolli> netrunner: if you need as much as possible...yes ;-)
23:39 < netrunner> holyolli: then I would have already to much :/
23:39 < daja77> this is stupid, api change just before releasing 1.0
23:41 < daja77> <- goin to bed
23:41 < holyolli> n8 daja77
23:41 < _spectre_> n8 daja77
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23:48 < owl_> gn8
23:48 < holyolli> n8
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