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--- Log opened Sun Jan 11 00:01:27 2004 00:01 < mnemoc> daja77: /join #svn solved the problem ;) 00:02 < daja77> hehe 00:02 < daja77> ic 00:03 < mnemoc> =) 00:10 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@pD9506B75.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:19 < jsaw> re 00:21 < daja77> hi jsa^ 00:21 < daja77> jsaw 00:23 < jsaw> hi daja77 00:37 < daja77> blindcoder: ? 00:41 < mnemoc> hi jsaw 00:43 < jsaw> hi mnemoc 00:44 < mnemoc> jsaw: i'm waiting your reply :) 00:44 < jsaw> hacking on it :) 00:45 < mnemoc> great ;) 00:45 < daja77> hm? 00:45 < mnemoc> rocknet/pppoe 00:45 < daja77> what about rocknet/isdn ... 00:46 < mnemoc> as rene said, 'who ask will code it' 00:46 < jsaw> the one who asks? :)) 00:46 < jsaw> mnemoc was faster... 00:46 < mnemoc> ;) 00:47 < mnemoc> jsaw: we need to add ip-up and ip-down scripts too, at least for usednspeer 00:48 < jsaw> how? from rocknet or as default scripts in the package? 00:48 < mnemoc> default scripts in the package 00:49 < jsaw> I was actually thinking about a basic multiplexer ip-{up,down} to ip-{up,down}.$if... 00:50 < daja77> i'd do it, have no time atm :( 00:51 < mnemoc> :\ 00:51 < mnemoc> jsaw: dns is common, .$if is rocknet generated... isn't it? 00:54 < mnemoc> i had a magic 'anti-spoof' code we can add some day 00:54 < mnemoc> s/had/have/ 00:54 < jsaw> no, I mean the pppd tty argument in that case. so "pppd [args] ppp0 [args]" would give ip-up.ppp0 00:54 < jsaw> for pppoe, this would be ip-up.eth0 00:54 < mnemoc> oh... i was thinking in allow/deny stuff 00:54 < jsaw> oh, wait, lemma explain. 00:54 < jsaw> I'm currently implementing the "interface ppp0" thing, you're right that's better. 00:55 < mnemoc> :) 00:56 < jsaw> But I was thinking how get multiple instances of pppd running. Just in case somebody want's to do it. A multiplexer for ip-up and ip-down would be needed. 00:57 < mnemoc> it's not to hard to have 2 pppoe link in the same machine... tc rules ;) 00:57 < mnemoc> hard: hard to find a case 00:59 < mnemoc> even... i had once a 3 pppoe + 1 emergency dialup on a router 01:00 < mnemoc> will you code that multiplexer now? 01:00 < mnemoc> i whould love to see your code ;) 01:00 < jsaw> on the phone, plz stand by... 01:00 < mnemoc> ok 01:03 < jsaw> re. well, first I'll do the rocknet module. But I have an idea how I could do the {ip,auth}-{up,down} multiplexer... 01:05 < mnemoc> btw, we need to write a dhclient-script using iproute2 01:05 < daja77> lol 01:06 < mnemoc> lol? :( 01:06 < daja77> yeah you are saying that all the time ;-) 01:07 < mnemoc> i don't want to have ifconfig on my boxes... that s.th sucks 01:07 < mnemoc> my targets are not quite linux standard ;) 01:08 < daja77> 386? 01:08 < mnemoc> :( 01:08 < mnemoc> these 386 terminals will be etherbooteables 01:09 < mnemoc> i'm talking about my router target and server targets 01:09 < daja77> what do you want to boot on them? 01:10 < mnemoc> linux :) 01:12 < daja77> you are weird 01:12 < mnemoc> :( 01:13 < daja77> 4mb ram? how should that work with linux? 01:15 < mnemoc> they boot dos from floppy, load netbeui support into a ramdisk, net use some crap and run a clipper program 01:16 < mnemoc> daja77: it should ;) 01:16 < daja77> linux 2.0? 01:16 < daja77> why does that company not buy new computers 01:16 < mnemoc> if i can't minimize 2.4 enough i'll have to add little more ram 01:16 < mnemoc> daja77: it's chile :\ 01:16 < mnemoc> what hardware can you buy these days?? do you need that to run a dos/clipper based terminal? 01:16 < daja77> why you need dos/clipper stuff 01:17 < mnemoc> points of sale, storage i/o record, etc... 01:18 < daja77> what do you do, when the machines die? 01:23 < mnemoc> they have that over lot of DBF file... with a nt3.5 server o_O 01:23 < mnemoc> they can't die :| 01:23 < daja77> you will use samba for that i guess 01:23 < mnemoc> phase 1: replace server with samba 01:23 < daja77> can't in the meaning of it would be a desaster if they do? 01:23 < mnemoc> pahse 2: migrate the whole s.th to postgres/clip 01:23 < daja77> ah now i understand why you added that clip stuff to rock 01:23 < mnemoc> daja77: the hard part is to add tcp/ip support to that ramdisk 01:23 < daja77> true 01:23 < mnemoc> mstcp is fat 01:23 < mnemoc> that's why i can get better results with a micro-linux 01:23 < mnemoc> micro-rock-linux :) 01:23 < mnemoc> ehm... they are turning lights off 01:23 < daja77> hm? 01:23 * mnemoc thinks it's time to go home 01:23 < daja77> hehe 01:23 < daja77> ok cu 01:23 < mnemoc> cu soon :) 01:23 < jsaw> that's a clear sign :) 01:23 < jsaw> cu 01:31 -!- A-Tui [~aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 01:32 < A-Tui> hi all 01:33 < daja77> hi A-Tui 01:33 < A-Tui> hola daja77 01:41 -!- nookie [~nookie@M501P018.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:43 -!- nookie [~nookie@M295P016.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 01:55 -!- elon [~moep2k@zwelf.in-dsl.de] has quit ("..") 02:19 < jsaw> testing pppoe scripts now, cu l8r 02:20 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@pD9506B75.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 02:22 < mnemoc> re 02:40 -!- A-Tui [~aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("Satanás, el infierno es demasiado dulce!") 02:45 -!- A-Tui [~aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 03:02 < mnemoc> gn8 03:03 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@p3EE1E29F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 03:04 < jsaw> re 03:20 < mnemoc> wb jsaw 03:24 < jsaw> hi mnemoc 03:24 < jsaw> mnemoc: pppoe test succeded here, email sent to you and rxr, me now damn tired... 03:25 < mnemoc> thanks a lot jsaw :) 03:25 < jsaw> gn8 03:26 < mnemoc> pppoe iface [... <-- looks ver robust ;) 03:26 < mnemoc> gn8 jsaw 03:27 < jsaw> robust? 03:27 < jsaw> well no, I shouldn't start a conversation, I don't anything anyway... :) 03:28 < mnemoc> yep.. the first impression with that kind of stuff is 'this is a very well thought s.th' :) 03:28 < jsaw> s/don't anything/don't get anything/ 03:28 < mnemoc> go to sleep jsaw 03:28 < jsaw> bye bye 03:28 < mnemoc> bye 04:15 -!- A-Tui [~aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("Satanás, el infierno es demasiado dulce!") 05:22 -!- dsoul_ [darksoul@pingu.ii.uj.edu.pl] has joined #rocklinux 05:38 -!- dsoul [darksoul@pingu.ii.uj.edu.pl] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:20 < cytrinox`> morgn 06:28 -!- lowks_ [~lowks@219.93.24.31] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06:29 -!- lowks_ [~lowks@219.93.24.31] has joined #rocklinux 08:31 -!- scoopexH [~marc@td909193d.adsl.terralink.de] has joined #rocklinux 08:47 -!- dsoul_ [darksoul@pingu.ii.uj.edu.pl] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:38 -!- nookie [~nookie@M295P016.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 09:41 -!- nookie [~nookie@M351P011.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 10:06 < daja77> moin 10:18 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-177-14.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 10:18 < holyolli> moin 10:18 < daja77> moin holyolli 10:18 < holyolli> moin daja77 10:18 < daja77> ... and off again 10:18 < holyolli> cu... 10:26 < blindcoder> moin 10:26 < holyolli> moin blindcoder --- Log opened Sun Jan 11 18:14:04 2004 18:14 -!- esden [~weasel@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:14 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now - https://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html 18:14 -!- Topic set by ChanServ [Fri Jan 9 05:18:57 2004] 18:14 (Users #rocklinux) 18:14 [ Aard ] [ cytrinox`] [ ija ] [ mistik1 ] [ nookie] [ snyke] 18:14 [ blindcoder] [ daja77 ] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc ] [ owl_ ] [ tcr ] 18:14 [ bluefire ] [ dsoul ] [ k3t_ ] [ Nebukadneza] [ rolla ] [ true_] 18:14 [ capchaos_ ] [ esden ] [ kasc ] [ netcrow ] [ rxr ] 18:14 [ clifford ] [ fake ] [ lowks_] [ netrunner ] [ SMP ] 18:14 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 28 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 28 normal] 18:14 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Mon Aug 4 00:11:35 2003 18:14 -!- Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 14 secs 18:32 < netrunner> re 18:43 -!- nos [~nos@pD950FD1F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:43 < nos> hi there 18:44 < nos> can anyone tell me how to build a own package for rock? 18:45 < rxr> nos: yes - in a second 18:45 < nos> nice thx ;) 18:45 < rxr> re btw 18:49 < nos> brb ... 18:51 < rxr> nos: https://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/products/rock-handbook/html/rock-handbookse66.html 18:52 < rxr> and the wohle "https://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/products/rock-handbook/html/rock-handbookch20.html" section 18:56 < nos> thx ;) 19:05 -!- capchaos_ [~capchaos@gtso-d9b8c473.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit (Client Quit) 19:09 < rxr> nos: if you have questions not yet in the Handbook just ask here 19:09 < rxr> or send me a mail (if I'm away) to: rene@rocklinux.org ... 19:10 < nos> ok thx ;) 19:44 < rxr> nos: does it help out? 19:59 -!- A-Tui [~aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 20:00 < fake> nos: hi! 20:00 -!- dsoul [darksoul@info.ii.uj.edu.pl] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:01 < A-Tui> hi all 20:05 < nos> hi oh fake 20:06 -!- LocalHero [~alex@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has joined #rocklinux 20:06 < LocalHero> Hi all 20:24 < rxr> hi LocalHero 20:24 < rxr> hi fake 20:24 < LocalHero> rxr, hi 20:25 < blindcoder> moin 20:25 < LocalHero> Arrgh, why does my script differ when running ./Build-Job -cfg boot -xdaemon and ./Build-Job -cfg boot -daemon :( 20:26 < LocalHero> blindcoder hi 20:27 < rxr> netrunner: around? 20:59 < netrunner> rxr: yes. 20:59 * netrunner writing 15 pages report until tomorrow 9am :( 21:03 < rxr> netrunner: I found out we still miss a photo of you in the develope galery - do you have a useable one 21:03 < rxr> or should I cut one from devel-conf or 20C3 pics ? 21:05 < blindcoder> are 20c3 pics already available? 21:05 < rxr> some from daja 21:05 < blindcoder> where? seems I missed that one... 21:05 < rxr> my camera was stolen (ro grabed by accident by someone else, borrow for a full lifetime - or whatever you want to name it ...) 21:06 < rxr> https://waterworld.dyndns.org/~andreas/publicgallery/20c3_daja_small.html 21:06 < rxr> netrunner: maybe the one from: 21:06 < rxr> https://waterworld.dyndns.org/~andreas/ 21:10 < netrunner> rxr: I already mailed one to esden half a year ago, but he apparently didn't put it online. let me see ... 21:11 < rxr> just forward it to me and it will be online tonight ... 21:12 < blindcoder> that reminds me that I also have some pics from hannes' cam here 21:12 < blindcoder> https://scavenger.homeip.net/bilder/ 21:19 < netrunner> rxr: sent. 21:21 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-30-76.reverse.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:21 < holyolli> moin 21:35 < LocalHero> Wahoo, i think its working :) 21:40 < rxr> netrunner: has not yet arrived ... 21:41 < LocalHero> rxr, I now got the hotplug to work (i think) :) 21:42 < rxr> cluster-node hotplug ? 21:43 < LocalHero> rxr, yupp, well its not actually that advanced. It inserts the package that a node is makeing into the queue when get TERM signal 21:43 < LocalHero> rxr, now my standard computer can join my builds when its on :) 21:45 < rxr> jups - cool 21:45 < LocalHero> Finaly i made something usefull :) 21:49 < rxr> ;-) 21:52 < netrunner> rxr: not my fault: (reason: 553 5.7.1 {mx019} The recipient does not accept mails from 'web.de' over foreign mailservers) 21:53 < rxr> netrunner: damn gmx crap - I nearly disabled everything in this damn spam filtering stuff 21:53 < rxr> netrunner: can you send to my own private server via rene@rocklinux-consulting.de ;-) ? 21:54 < netrunner> rxr: ok, out again. 21:59 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EA9FBA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Leaving") 22:01 -!- nos [~nos@pD950FD1F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 22:08 < blindcoder> gn8 22:10 < netrunner> ni blindy 22:10 < netrunner> s/ni/n8/ 22:11 -!- nookie [~nookie@M342P012.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22:12 -!- nookie [~nookie@M293P015.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 22:16 < rxr> netrunner: done - thanks 22:17 < netrunner> rxr: it is me who has to thank you :) 22:24 < owl_> moin 22:24 < holyolli> moin owl 22:24 < owl_> hi holyolli 22:25 < owl_> someone knows with 2.6.1 (amd athlon thunderbird) the following message: 22:25 < owl_> essage from syslogd@thor at Mon Jan 12 02:13:25 2004 ...qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq 22:25 < owl_> thor kernel: MCE: The hardware reports a non fatal, correctable incident occurred on CPU 0. 22:25 < owl_> ??? 22:26 -!- true_ is now known as true 22:27 < LocalHero> does anybody know if a duron 1200 has the opti flag athlon xp? 22:28 < owl_> hi true 22:28 < fake> hi owl_ 22:28 < owl_> hi fake 22:28 < daja77> <- on windows now :( 22:29 < owl_> *g* hi daja77 22:29 < daja77> hi owl 22:29 < LocalHero> got to go, cya 22:30 < holyolli> cu LocalHero 22:30 < daja77> cu LocalHero 22:30 < owl_> bye LocalHero 22:30 < true> hi owl_ :p 22:30 -!- LocalHero [~alex@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has left #rocklinux ("Kopete 0.7.3 : https://kopete.kde.org") 22:30 < owl_> true: :p 22:33 -!- _spectre_ [~spectre@134.106.66.27] has joined #rocklinux 22:34 < _spectre_> re 22:35 < daja77> grr i need a lspic on this platform 22:35 < daja77> lspci 22:41 < rxr> hi daja77 22:44 < daja77> hi rxr 22:44 < daja77> grrr i need xp to test a scanner which doesn't work with sane, even when listed as supported 22:46 < _spectre_> ;) I need to start vmware win98 sometimes to reset my snapscan1212u - even though it's supportet, it sometimes stays openend forever for sane 22:51 < daja77> okm goin home again 22:56 < _spectre_> maybe one of You can do me a big favor and let me know how I can check a dynamic number of regex backreferences in Perl ? - Sorry for being off-topic, but I have no clue where and how to figure it out 22:57 < _spectre_> doing my $test = "\$$i"; and if(($test)) seems to do for checking if they're set, but I cannot get their contents in any way 23:06 < _spectre_> I think the construct $test = "\$$i" doesn't make sense at all, but I have no clue on how else I might tell the interpreter that I want to check and use a certain known number of backreferences 23:23 < netrunner> my article won't grow :( 23:23 < daja77> re 23:24 < owl_> wb daja77 23:26 < daja77> :) 23:26 < daja77> https://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/images/dilbert20040111045651.jpg 23:27 * netrunner feels ill thinking about the next article that is due to thursday 23:27 < daja77> hi netrunner 23:27 < netrunner> hi daja77 23:28 < rxr> damn ALSA crap 23:28 < daja77> grr that reminds me that i need to upload the complete pciture set 23:28 < rxr> I had planed better things for this evening / night 23:28 < rxr> damn C Unix crap 23:29 < rxr> maybe I should have start my own OS years ago .... 23:29 < daja77> .oO heard that recently from someone else 23:29 < netrunner> rxr: switch to hurd :b 23:30 < daja77> hrhr 23:30 < rxr> netrunner: even crappier C Unix-flavour crap ... 23:32 < rxr> me waiting for a un-optimized un-stripped ALSA build finshes on the iBook 23:32 < rxr> .... 23:33 < daja77> :( 23:33 < daja77> what made they wrong? 23:34 -!- cytrinox` [~dj-nail@p213.54.216.129.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23:34 -!- cytrinox` [~dj-nail@p213.54.231.231.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 23:34 < fake> rock plan9 support ? ;) 23:34 < rxr> ALSA ? 23:35 < rxr> https://www.mail-archive.com/alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net/msg09892.html 23:35 * netrunner suggests javaos :) 23:35 < fake> cool, alien2 on tv 23:36 < owl_> .oO( fake uses his tv too often ) 23:36 < daja77> fake: hehe rock plan9 ... you are evil 23:36 < netrunner> hm. do the titlepage and index count to the # of pages? 23:38 < daja77> guess there is more to do than adding these two defines ... 23:38 < holyolli> netrunner: if you need as much as possible...yes ;-) 23:39 < netrunner> holyolli: then I would have already to much :/ 23:39 < daja77> this is stupid, api change just before releasing 1.0 23:41 < daja77> <- goin to bed 23:41 < holyolli> n8 daja77 23:41 < _spectre_> n8 daja77 23:46 -!- A-Tui [~aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("Satanás, el infierno es demasiado dulce!") 23:48 < owl_> gn8 23:48 < holyolli> n8 23:49 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-30-76.reverse.qsc.de] has quit ("Leaving") --- Log closed Mon Jan 12 00:00:24 2004