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--- Log opened Thu Jan 15 00:00:41 2004 00:49 -!- mistik1 [wlan_misti@ool-44c02046.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:51 -!- retrug [~xx@pD9EB7C8C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:51 < retrug> hi 00:51 < retrug> someone here? 00:52 < retrug> ? 00:53 -!- retrug [~xx@pD9EB7C8C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Client Quit) 00:57 < mnemoc> re 00:57 < mnemoc> jsaw_: ping 00:57 < mnemoc> anyone using rocknet to nat a lan? 00:58 -!- elon [~moep2k@zwelf.in-dsl.de] has quit ("..") 01:08 < mnemoc> bbl :'( 01:11 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9522BD8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 01:15 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9522BD8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:16 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9522BD8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Client Quit) 01:25 -!- zenlunatic [~zen@user-2ivepei.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #rocklinux 01:36 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.4.104] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01:37 -!- zenlunatic_ [~zen@user-uiveq1u.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #rocklinux 01:37 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.4.104] has joined #rocklinux 01:45 -!- zenlunatic [~zen@user-2ivepei.dialup.mindspring.com] has quit (Connection reset by peer) 02:36 -!- Netsplit niven.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Nebukadneza`, fake 02:37 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Nebukadneza`, fake 03:41 < mnemoc> https://users.pandora.be/Psychotic_Kenshin/grappig/Ramzi.wmv <-- please :) 03:42 < jsaw_> re 03:42 < jsaw_> hi mnemoc 03:42 * jsaw_ getting himself a coffee, or two or three 03:45 < mnemoc> jsaw_: watch that video :) 03:45 < mnemoc> brb 03:47 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M473P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 03:53 < jsaw_> mnemoc: :) 03:53 -!- jsaw_ is now known as jsaw 03:55 -!- nookie [~nookie@M292P029.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Connection timed out) 04:07 -!- zenlunatic_ [~zen@user-uiveq1u.dsl.mindspring.com] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04:18 < mnemoc> jsaw: still here? 04:18 < jsaw> mnemoc: yes 04:18 < jsaw> mnemoc: Ramzi, muahahaha 04:18 < mnemoc> :) 04:19 < mnemoc> have u used rocknet for nat? 04:19 < jsaw> not yet 04:19 < mnemoc> what's the 'all' interface? 04:20 < mnemoc> forward flags only work for that interface 04:20 < jsaw> lemma see... 04:21 * SMP wouldn't use rocknet for NAT by anything else than iptables-restore'ing /etc/iptables.conf 04:21 -!- puzzled [~patrick@puzzled.xs4all.nl] has quit ("Leaving") 04:22 < mnemoc> SMP i want to try a simple masq 04:22 < mnemoc> everything out, nothing in 04:23 < SMP> call iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -o $OUT_INTERFACE -j MASQUERADE and you're done ;) 04:23 < mnemoc> but this shit don't route out 04:23 < mnemoc> SMP: i know but i want to use rocknet :) 04:23 < jsaw> mnemoc: that's actually stupid IMO (this 'all' interface) 04:24 < jsaw> it's a sysctl definition and thus belongs into the header (before any interface def) 04:24 < SMP> but you can't bind it to a profile if it's in the header 04:24 < mnemoc> btw, stone module can't add generic flags 04:25 < mnemoc> i think 'forward' should be a companion of echo 1 and iptables 04:25 < mnemoc> not just the echo 04:26 < mnemoc> 'do you want to forward through this interface?' 04:27 < jsaw> SMP: hmmm, u're right. Still I think "interface all" is confusing. 04:28 < mnemoc> 'forward' as allow everything to forward through, 'forward tcp 80 [<ip>]' as dnat 04:29 < mnemoc> forward must be profile dependant 04:29 < mnemoc> if/profile i mean 04:30 < jsaw> iptales_parse_conditions, "iptales", *haha* 04:31 < mnemoc> but it's called as iptales too :) 04:40 < jsaw> mnemoc, SMP: Do you see any reason, not to remove the '[ "$interface" != all ] && return' in public_forward? 04:41 < SMP> yes. 04:41 < jsaw> what? 04:41 < SMP> ip-forwarding is not a property of an interface 04:41 < jsaw> AH! 04:42 < jsaw> Exactly my previous point. It actually doesn't belong to ANY interface section. 04:42 < jsaw> Not even to "interface all". 04:43 < jsaw> But functionaly it belongs to what is transmitted thru those interfaces. So what's the deal? 04:43 < mnemoc> but.. is that a design fault on rocknet o just need an 'small' fix? 04:43 < jsaw> no, no design fault. 04:45 < jsaw> just the KISS principle 04:45 < mnemoc> jsaw, smp: what would u do with forward flag? 04:45 < SMP> why are you even worrying about it? 04:46 < mnemoc> because if it's there it shall work 04:46 < SMP> what about it does not work? 04:47 < mnemoc> it only work for interface 'all' 04:47 < mnemoc> but 'all' doesn't mean 'every defined interface' 04:47 < SMP> what do you think the 'forward' statement is for? 04:47 < jsaw> mnemoc: as smp stated, forward is profile dependant, but forward is also a global non-interface specific option 04:48 < jsaw> mnemoc: that means, to keep the rocknet parser stupid simple, 04:48 < jsaw> mnemoc: u simply take the "interface all" instead of defining 04:48 < SMP> actually it's simple but too stupid 04:48 < jsaw> mnemoc: a new section. 04:49 < mnemoc> if forward is defined for any interface echo 1, if forward is not defined for $if, drop all forward with -i $if 04:49 < SMP> 'forward' has nothing whatsoever to do with packet filtering or iptables! 04:49 < mnemoc> it doesn't but it can 04:49 < jsaw> look into /usr/src/linux/Documentation/Configure.help 04:50 < jsaw> and search for ip_forward 04:50 < mnemoc> i know 04:50 < SMP> by all means, it must not! how ugly 04:50 < mnemoc> i'm trying to apply it to rocknet model 04:50 < mnemoc> take it as 'accept' 04:51 < mnemoc> echo 1 > ip_forward when there is something allowed to be forwardd 04:51 < SMP> how do you determine if something is allowed? 04:51 < mnemoc> similar to accept all 04:51 < mnemoc> forward all (for this interface) 04:52 -!- jsaw_ [~jsaw@pD9506996.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:52 < mnemoc> or something more specific 04:52 < mnemoc> forward tcp 80 192.168.5.1 04:52 < mnemoc> like accept 04:53 < SMP> please no, this idea is broken 04:53 < mnemoc> make the echo thing a consecuence 04:54 < mnemoc> or simply forward per if/profile but only for that interface 04:54 < mnemoc> the other can be handled with accept 04:55 < mnemoc> there is any simple way to define that you want forward between two itnerfaces? 04:56 < SMP> mnemoc: use an iptables rule outside rocknet 04:57 < mnemoc> why rocknet couldn't handle simple router configuration itself? 04:57 < mnemoc> complex stuff to iptables rules outside, but simple ones.... 04:58 < mnemoc> interface $if: forward (everything can go through $if) 04:58 < jsaw_> maybe a "redirect" command would be sufficient? 04:59 < mnemoc> interface $if: forward $if1 $if3 (stuff from $if1 and $if3 can go through $if) 04:59 < SMP> mnemoc: this is useless 04:59 < mnemoc> is this idea broken too? 05:00 < SMP> there is no sane real-world application for this 05:00 < mnemoc> interface ppp0: forward eth0 05:00 < mnemoc> eth1 is dmz, it can't go out 05:01 < jsaw_> but that's only usefull with specific ports, isn't it? 05:02 < SMP> mnemoc: and this is supposed to be the only filtering rule? 05:02 < mnemoc> interface eth1: forward eth0 05:03 < mnemoc> interface ppp0: masquarade 05:03 < mnemoc> that whould define a basic lan/dmz/outsize squema 05:03 < SMP> and what about the return traffic? 05:03 < mnemoc> if you add a couple of 'redirect' to ppp0 you have an operative dmz 05:04 < mnemoc> return traffic is preaccepted because it's related,established 05:05 < SMP> this is almost as broken as PIX config ;> 05:06 < mnemoc> ip_forward would be 1 due to the activation of one 'forward' flag 05:06 < mnemoc> echo 1 as a consecuence, not a purpose 05:06 < mnemoc> no? 05:06 < mnemoc> =( 05:07 < SMP> what does coupling ip_forward to your useless 'forward' statements gain you? 05:07 < mnemoc> too much cisco in my brain :\ 05:08 < mnemoc> ip_forward enable the forward, iptable limit it to specific interfaces 05:09 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@pD950699B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:09 -!- jsaw_ is now known as jsaw 05:10 < mnemoc> may i shut up and sleep' seems i do :( 05:10 < mnemoc> s,\',\?, 05:10 < SMP> ;-> 05:11 -!- cornflake [~eric@ip68-4-32-198.pv.oc.cox.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:11 < mnemoc> i don't see it useless... of course iptables is better, but i think rocknet is there to do the simple stuff 05:11 < mnemoc> and basic forwarding between itnerfaces is basic enough 05:11 < mnemoc> for being in rocknet 05:12 < cornflake> can anyone tell me the url so i can use the ports system? 05:12 < mnemoc> cornflake: what port system? 05:12 < cornflake> rock's port system 05:12 < cornflake> ya know, "mine" 05:13 < mnemoc> mine is the installer 05:13 < cornflake> oh.... never mind 05:13 < cornflake> but rock says that it has a ports system however... 05:14 < mnemoc> do u want to cross compile a rock? 05:15 < cornflake> i don't know cross compile means 05:15 < mnemoc> build for an architecture that wont run on your host machine 05:17 < mnemoc> i'll go to sleep... cu 05:17 < cornflake> oh...... no, im not trying to do that 05:17 < mnemoc> gn8 SMP,jsaw,cornflake 05:17 < SMP> mnemoc: call you statement 'conduit', not 'forward' and leave out the messing with ip_forward and I will shut up about this idea ;) 05:17 < SMP> cornflake: what are you trying to do? 05:18 < jsaw> anybody knows good SBCs for a self-build router? 05:18 < cornflake> SMP: i just wanna install some programs without having to look all over the net for their dependencies 05:19 < cornflake> i tried gentoo on my computer, but apparently "emerge sync" wasn't working right so i decided to try rock 05:19 < SMP> if it's called 'conduit' then anyone with a clue about packet filtering will immediately notice that it's crap ;> 05:21 < SMP> cornflake: building packages on an alien system is not actually supported, and you will not get dependencies resolved automatically. you need to check out a rock tree from subversion, there are currently no releases available for simple download 05:22 < mnemoc> SMP: what whould you do to 'foward' generic flag? 05:22 < cornflake> SMP: im just talking about installing linux programs like "gaim" or java 05:23 < SMP> mnemoc: leave it alone 05:23 < SMP> cornflake: you really should get the packages for your distribution 05:23 < mnemoc> SMP: working for an interface named 'all'? 05:24 < cornflake> SMP: so just go to the packages page on rocklinux.org and download the file there? 05:24 < SMP> mnemoc: that's another thing - it's a conceptual weakness in rocknet 05:25 < SMP> cornflake: no. get the software packages that were built for the distribution you are using. which one are you using anyway? 05:31 < cornflake> rock 05:31 < SMP> uhh. which version? 05:31 < cornflake> 2.0 05:31 < cornflake> desktop edition 05:32 < mnemoc> cornflake: go to /usr/src/rock-src 05:32 < mnemoc> run 'svn up' 05:33 < mnemoc> mkdir -p config/default 05:33 < mnemoc> cp -R etc/ROCK_CONFIG/* config/default 05:33 < mnemoc> ./script/Config -oldconfig 05:34 < mnemoc> and after that you can do ./script/Emerge-Pkg <package> 05:34 < mnemoc> and install <package> in your rcok-desktop 05:34 < mnemoc> good night ;) 05:34 < SMP> bye mnemoc ;) 05:34 < jsaw> cu mnemoc 05:35 < mnemoc> cu jsaw,SMP 05:35 < cornflake> thanx mnemoc 05:35 * mnemoc won't be happy if 'conduit' doesn't emulate pix's :( 05:35 < mnemoc> ^aDD 06:06 -!- scoopexH [~marc@td909191d.adsl.terralink.de] has joined #rocklinux 06:14 -!- cornflake [~eric@ip68-4-32-198.pv.oc.cox.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 06:52 -!- scoopexH [~marc@td909191d.adsl.terralink.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 07:10 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-152.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 07:27 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-052-112.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 08:15 < owl_> moin 08:35 -!- jsaw_ [~jsaw@pD9506B7A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:36 < owl_> hi jsaw_ 08:53 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@pD9506996.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:13 < netrunner> moin 09:13 < owl_> moin netrunner 09:18 < blindcoder> moin 09:20 < owl_> hi blindy 09:21 < blindcoder> hi owly 09:27 < netrunner> hi blindcoder/owl 09:28 < blindcoder> hi netti 09:59 -!- Baldzius [~user@212.122.72.33] has joined #rocklinux 10:40 < daja77> moin 10:41 < owl_> moin daja77 10:41 < owl_> bwah. snow-storm!!! 10:41 < daja77> hi owl 10:41 < daja77> heavy rain here 10:42 < blindcoder> moin daja77 10:42 < daja77> hey blindy 10:42 < blindcoder> just cloudy here 10:42 < owl_> blindcoder: where? 10:43 < blindcoder> IN 10:43 < blindcoder> oh... just now a handful of snowflakes is falling down 10:44 < daja77> damn alsa update 10:44 < owl_> hehe. ok 10:44 < daja77> 1085 builds total, 824 completed fine, 261 with errors. 10:44 < owl_> alsa-update? 10:44 < daja77> >_< 10:44 < owl_> let me guess - gnome* with errors? 10:45 < daja77> mostly kde this time 10:45 < owl_> O_o faszinating 10:45 < blindcoder> GAH, my parents drank th ananas-juice! 10:45 < blindcoder> so no coconut kiss >_< 10:46 < daja77> interesting err file for package rock-src 10:46 < owl_> *lol* 10:46 < daja77> Creating source tar ... tar: relocation error: /lib/libnss_db.so.2: undefined sy 10:46 < daja77> mbol: __set_errno 10:46 < daja77> 0 /usr/src/rock-src-2.0.0-rc5.tar.bz2 10:46 < daja77> O_o 10:51 < daja77> waaaah i am getting this relocating stuff with every package now 10:56 < blindcoder> delete libnss_db 10:56 < blindcoder> that's what i did when I had that message 11:00 -!- dsoul [darksoul@www.offspring.art.pl] has joined #rocklinux 11:04 < daja77> i don't have that in my system, you mean delete it in $root? 11:06 < blindcoder> probably 11:06 < blindcoder> I just know that almost everything from ping to apache didn't work here as long as that lib existed 11:07 < daja77> what's that for a crap 11:07 < netrunner> argl, esden calling me in lecture 11:07 < daja77> lol 11:08 < blindcoder> netrunner: KICK HIM FROM ME! 11:08 < blindcoder> netrunner: HARD! 11:08 < blindcoder> netrunner: IF HE ASKS WHY, THEN KICK HIM AGAIN! 11:09 < daja77> hmm kicking, sounds like fun 11:09 < netrunner> blindcoder: stop shouting, the prof is looking at me already. 11:09 < netrunner> daja77: join the 'kick esden' party :) 11:09 < owl_> netrunner: hahahahhahahah :p 11:09 * daja77 joins 11:09 < netrunner> owl_: you are invited, too :) 11:09 < owl_> am i allowed to join this party, too, please? 11:09 < owl_> thx *g* 11:09 * owl_ joins too 11:10 * netrunner thinks about a flash game for kicking esden :) 11:10 < daja77> nice nvi fails due syntax error 11:10 < daja77> blindcoder: thx that relocate stuff vanished now 11:11 < blindcoder> netrunner: nah, I don't have flash here 11:11 * daja77 used his flash plugin package ... 11:14 < daja77> rofl https://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-15.01.04-003/ 11:14 < blindcoder> I don't even WANT flash here 11:15 < daja77> hehe 11:17 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@p5080257A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 11:19 < mnemoc> https://users.pandora.be/Psychotic_Kenshin/grappig/Ramzi.wmv <-- please :) 11:19 < mnemoc> (re) 11:19 < owl_> hi mnemoc 11:19 < mnemoc> hi owl_ 11:20 < daja77> hi mnemoc 11:20 < mnemoc> hi daja77 11:20 < blindcoder> moin mnemoc 11:22 < mnemoc> hi blindcoder... anyone have tried masq'ing with rocknet? 11:22 < owl_> *lol* mnemoc 11:23 < blindcoder> mnemoc: nope 11:29 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p50802514.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:37 * daja77 likes his local package mirror 11:46 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M473P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:47 -!- nookie [~nookie@M360P012.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 11:48 < mnemoc> daja77: don't u use download/ as a bind to it? 11:48 -!- puzzled [~patrick@puzzled.xs4all.nl] has joined #rocklinux 11:49 < netrunne1> mnemoc: I bet daja has >1 computer :) 11:49 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 11:49 < mnemoc> netrunner: good point :) 11:49 < daja77> yeah i created a symlink in apache dir to a full download dir ^^ 11:50 < mnemoc> and nfs? 11:50 < daja77> gna, no have enough nfs here already 11:51 < daja77> <- likes to play with http servers anyway 11:54 < mnemoc> =) 11:54 < blindcoder> hmm... gym before or after lunch 11:54 < owl_> before 11:55 < blindcoder> hmm... yeah, afterwards I'm too full to go... 11:56 < mnemoc> after lunch sucks :\ 11:56 < blindcoder> hmm... then I'll be gone for at least 2 hours now 11:57 < mnemoc> cu blindcoder 11:58 < blindcoder> okay, bye everyone! 11:58 < owl_> bye blindy. enjoy the gym 11:58 < blindcoder> yeah, thanks :) 12:08 < esden> argh 12:08 * -> esden 's ass akes 12:08 < netrunner> he is here! ;) 12:08 < owl_> hi esden 12:08 < esden> and that because of the dietlibc patches that were never defined as fully functional!! >_< argl 12:08 < esden> hi owl_ 12:12 < daja77> hm? 12:14 < esden> huhu daja77 ? 12:18 < mnemoc> hm? what did i did? 12:24 < mnemoc> the dietlibc patches we have are harmless =) 12:25 < daja77> hi esden 12:26 < mnemoc> hi esden :) 12:30 < daja77> what is with that patches 12:36 < mnemoc> esden: *if* you are talking about linuxrc mails i'm having this problem since september 12:43 < esden> mnemoc: no not about that 12:44 < mnemoc> :) 12:44 < mnemoc> good 12:44 < esden> if you talk about the same problem I remember of then I tracked it down long time ago and is/was caused by a bit ugly way of building the linuxrc in the bootdisk target ... 12:45 < mnemoc> kiss produced the same error mounint taht s.th 12:45 < esden> I was not able back then to fix that ... not changing more then a bit ... 12:47 < mnemoc> can you *please* send me a couple of 'mount's staticly linked with diferent versions of dietlibc? 12:47 < mnemoc> at work i'm working on a 9 inches screen on a rack :\ 12:48 < mnemoc> and i would like to strace a succesfull and a failed mount 12:53 < mnemoc> outch... late, have to go :( cu in 30" on that 9-in monitor 12:53 < daja77> cu mnemoc 12:53 < mnemoc> cu daja77 12:53 < daja77> grrr @ wine 12:53 < mnemoc> :) 12:59 -!- darix [darix@monsters.rsn.uni-rostock.de] has joined #rocklinux 12:59 < darix> moin 13:00 < darix> clifford: we found a little bug in the rocklinux 2.0.0 rc2 13:01 < daja77> one little? 13:01 < darix> clifford: inside the chroot it calls "depmod -ae" 13:01 < darix> this tries to write the modules.dep for the currently running kernel. not for the build one. 13:01 < darix> in our case: 13:01 < darix> /sbin/depmod -ae 13:01 < darix> depmod: Can't open /lib/modules/2.4.24/modules.dep for writing 13:02 < darix> there are parameters for depmod to tell it which system.map and base directory to use. 13:02 < daja77> you mean you get that problem while building or installing rc2? 13:02 < darix> we patched the makefile for it. but i think it should be patched in upstream too 13:02 < darix> daja77: building *think* 13:02 -!- zenlunatic_ [~zen@user-2ivep1q.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #rocklinux 13:02 < darix> daja77: i just collect the stuff and report it :) 13:02 < daja77> why are you building rc2? 13:03 < darix> daja77: because the guy who does it is a bit clueless ;) 13:03 < darix> its not my part of work. 13:03 < daja77> erh nice ... 13:03 < darix> ill tell him about svn later this day :) 13:03 < daja77> yeah do that, please report such bugs if you find them against recent stuff 13:07 < darix> daja77: will do so. just told him about his luck of personal svn course with me :) 13:07 < daja77> hehehe 13:16 -!- zenlunatic_ [~zen@user-2ivep1q.dialup.mindspring.com] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 13:23 -!- darix [darix@monsters.rsn.uni-rostock.de] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:26 -!- darix [darix@monsters.rsn.uni-rostock.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:45 < jsaw_> re 13:45 < jsaw_> any asm gurus here? 13:46 < owl_> hi jsaw_ 13:46 < jsaw_> hi owl_ 13:46 -!- jsaw_ is now known as jsaw 13:52 < mnemoc> re 13:54 < jsaw> am I right, that (i386) "cmp $-124,%eax ; jbe .Lnoerror" is equivalent to "if (%eax <= -124) ..."? 13:54 < mnemoc> jsaw: 'all' interface don't work on 'auto' :( 13:55 < jsaw> mnemoc: :( 13:55 < mnemoc> that s.th only works when calling rocknet by hand 13:56 < jsaw> I don't get the last sentence: "all" only works if called manually? 13:56 < jsaw> ok, posting asm question to ml... 13:57 < mnemoc> rocknet default all up 13:57 < mnemoc> but if i set 'auto eth0 ppp0 all' 13:57 < mnemoc> rocknet default auto up 13:58 < mnemoc> don't skip the 'forward' flag 13:59 < mnemoc> s/don't// 14:00 < jsaw> mnemoc: this time, _I_ am quite tired. Can you write me an email, I gonna have a look into a bit later... :) 14:05 < mnemoc> jsaw: try to sleep at least once this week ;) 14:06 -!- nookie [~nookie@M360P012.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("Lost terminal") 14:07 -!- zenlunatic [~zen@user-uivenhe.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #rocklinux 14:07 < jsaw> mnemoc: trying to :) 14:08 -!- nookie [~nookie@M360P012.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 14:14 < mnemoc> daja77: can you query me the things cliff said we have to do with our old submaster repos? that thing about uuid.txt and queue.txt 14:14 < mnemoc> pleeeease 14:16 < clifford> mnemoc: https://www.rocklinux.net:80/lurker/message/20040113.213209.7b81cd18.html 14:16 < mnemoc> clifford: thats :) 14:16 -!- k3t__ [k3t@pD9502DF2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:17 < daja77> hi clifford, just copied it from there :) 14:18 < daja77> ok back to read annoying wine manual 14:18 < jsaw> cu l8; mv self to bed 14:18 < darix> hi clifford 14:18 < daja77> n8 jsaw 14:18 < mnemoc> jsaw: enjoy it :) 14:18 < darix> clifford: any comments at my depmod problem? 14:19 < jsaw> mnemoc: :))) 14:19 < darix> i checked svn log and didnt see any changes according to this. or is it a config error on our side? 14:19 < clifford> darix: depmod problem? 14:19 < darix> 12:56:14 < darix> clifford: we found a little bug in the rocklinux 2.0.0 rc2 14:19 < darix> 12:56:33 < darix> clifford: inside the chroot it calls "depmod -ae" 14:19 < darix> 12:56:54 < darix> this tries to write the modules.dep for the currently running kernel. not for the build one. 14:19 < darix> 12:57:03 < darix> in our case: 14:19 < darix> 12:57:04 < darix> /sbin/depmod -ae 14:19 < darix> 12:57:04 < darix> depmod: Can't open /lib/modules/2.4.24/modules.dep for writing 14:19 < darix> 12:57:36 < darix> there are parameters for depmod to tell it which system.map and base directory to use. 14:19 < darix> 12:57:56 < darix> we patched the makefile for it. but i think it should be patched in upstream too 14:20 * fake just rebuilt his kernel for oprofile support ;) 14:20 < clifford> darix: which package? 14:20 < clifford> fake: I'm doing the first test-run with profile-based optimized binaries. 14:21 < clifford> (optimizing gawk to play "4 gewinnt": www.clifford.at/priv/4gewinnt.awk ;-) 14:21 < fake> clifford: grr. you make me get bored ;) 14:21 -!- zenlunatic_ [~zen@user-uiver18.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #rocklinux 14:21 < darix> clifford: we added a hostapd package and at the end of the build process we got this error. 14:22 < daja77> lol 14:22 < darix> he just told me about it. 2 min ago. :) 14:22 < clifford> darix: packages should not run depmod at all because that would create a shared-files conflict with the linux kernel package. 14:22 < mnemoc> darix: you have to patch packages to don't run depmod on buildtime 14:22 < darix> clifford: ok. 14:23 < darix> thanks :) 14:23 < clifford> in 2.1 this will be handled using you new post-install scripts: 14:23 < mnemoc> sometimes make DEPMOD=true help 14:23 < clifford> e.g. linux kernel registeres a post-install script which runs whenever a package containing kernel modules is added, updated or removed. 14:24 < clifford> (the same for e.g. man: manpages and whatis index, etc.) 14:24 < mnemoc> clifford: can i ask you about 'forward' flag on rocknet? ;) 14:25 < darix> i just installed hm svn. explained him the basics and showed him the svn book :) 14:25 < clifford> mnemoc: there is a design bug in rocknet regarding "global options" such as forward and hostname... 14:26 < mnemoc> clifford: can you read what we talked about it last night? (now-9hr) 14:27 < mnemoc> i would like to know your opinion about conduit and smp and mine visions 14:27 < clifford> arrg.. esden: we have no irc log index for 2004! 14:28 < netrunner> clifford: he knows. 14:28 < mnemoc> :-\ 14:28 < clifford> and not logs too? 14:28 < netrunner> clifford: none since sept'03 or so 14:28 < netrunner> clifford: dunno about logs, i know about the stats. 14:28 < clifford> why? it would be great to communicate that so we can fix it! 14:29 < clifford> we have log up to okt. 2003. 14:29 < netrunner> clifford: he says logs exist, he just didn't restart the computing of stats 14:29 < clifford> https://www.rocklinux.net/people/esden/irclog/index-2003.html 14:29 < clifford> ... stops at okt 2003. 14:30 < mnemoc> iirc he did that index by 'hand' that day 14:30 < mnemoc> waiting an interface integration in new website 14:32 < mnemoc> try modifing url of an indexded log 14:32 < clifford> i did. 14:32 -!- k3t_ [k3t@pD900571F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:32 < mnemoc> :) 14:32 < clifford> ..those irc logs are very importand for our google rating! ;-) 14:33 < fake> *rofl* 14:34 < mnemoc> haha 14:34 < clifford> that's not funny at all.. ;-) 14:35 -!- zenlunatic [~zen@user-uivenhe.dsl.mindspring.com] has quit (Connection timed out) 14:36 < cytrinox`> moin 14:36 < mnemoc> moin cytrinox` 14:41 -!- kasc [kasc@82.82.219.29] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 14:42 < rxr> re 14:43 < mnemoc> moin rxr 14:44 < clifford> hmmm.... this is very unexpected. 14:44 < clifford> gawk.size: 0m4.830s 14:44 < clifford> gawk.speed: 0m4.885s 14:44 < clifford> gawk.smart: 0m4.910s 14:46 < clifford> eighter the concept is wrong or the testcase is not a good one.. ;-) 14:46 < clifford> oh! wait... 14:47 < mnemoc> rxr: don't you feel the need to browse sm admin? ;-) 14:47 < rxr> mnemoc: I'm at uni and just have an exam behind me 14:47 < rxr> and one tomorrow 14:47 < mnemoc> outch 14:47 < rxr> if I have time later today - and at latest tomorrow I'll do so ... 14:47 < mnemoc> i don't have uni. until march ;) 14:48 < rxr> I already did the svn database convertion between the lines of learning ... 14:48 < rxr> I also have a break after next week 14:48 < rxr> then I have more time for ROCK, GSMP and moving to a new flat ... 14:48 < mnemoc> :o 14:49 < mnemoc> new flat? that's time consuming 14:50 -!- laga_ [laga@p508ADF70.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:50 < laga_> hi! 14:51 < fake> clifford: huh? 14:52 < clifford> fake: just wait a minute - then I will have new values.. 14:53 < laga_> i've got another problem: if i say "Build-Target", everything builds fine. but then, it says:"-> Creating package database !> Binary file for <alotoffstuff> not present. Skipped in package database." how can i solve this? 14:54 < mnemoc> rxr: btw, the line you removed from bdb config has to create include/db as symlink to include/db41... i know it was failing but i think we need that symlink 14:54 < mnemoc> laga_: did you svn up while you were building that target? 14:54 -!- kasc [kasc@dsl-213-023-062-251.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:55 < laga_> mnemoc, what do you mean with "svn up". ist this what the "update-src"-script does? 14:55 < mnemoc> yep 14:56 < clifford> hmm... now optimized for athlon-xp: smart is even slower than before and this time speed is faster than size... 14:56 < mnemoc> that error you get means you didn't succsfully build the _last_ version of that package 14:57 < rxr> mnemoc: but our default bdb is (should be) 4.0 or 4.2 - not the devel 4.1 one 14:57 < rxr> which we should remove anyway ... 14:57 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi 14:58 < clifford> I think i need to create more testcases for the smart optimization thing ... 14:58 < mnemoc> rxr: that's a different issue 14:58 < laga_> mnemoc, hmm. i didn't svn up. ok... the building of the binutils-package failed. i used "emerge-pkg binutils" to build it. 14:58 -!- zenlunatic_ [~zen@user-uiver18.dsl.mindspring.com] has quit (Connection timed out) 14:59 < mnemoc> emerge-pkg is to build-install localy, not to a target 14:59 < laga_> mnemoc, ok. what do you suggest. "cleanup" and rebuilding everything? 15:00 < mnemoc> laga_: ./scripts/Create-ErrList -newdelete 15:00 < fake> clifford: ack! 15:01 < clifford> fake: It simply doesn't make any sense that smart is slower than size _and_ speed optimization... 15:02 < fake> yes, how can that be? 15:02 -!- Baldzius [~user@212.122.72.33] has left #rocklinux () 15:02 < laga_> mnemoc, ok. i typed it, and did "build-target". it still complains about the missing .gem files. 15:02 < fake> maybe you mixed up speed and size optimizations ? ;) 15:03 < clifford> no - I double-checked the cmd_wrapper.log. 15:03 < mnemoc> laga_: rm build/$yourbuild/root/var/adm/logs/*.err 15:04 < laga_> mnemoc, ok, i'll try it ;) 15:08 < rxr> cu later 15:08 < fake> hm... 15:09 < clifford> fake: https://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/smadm.cgi?i=2004011514404823724 15:10 < clifford> ...if you want to play with it. 15:12 < daja77> re 15:14 < fake> clifford: i'll do for sure. 15:14 < fake> clifford: btw, in mozilla the cookie-problem is non-existant 15:14 < daja77> fake! 15:15 < fake> daja77! 15:15 < daja77> :) 15:16 < laga_> == 15:00:16 =[2]=> Building base/binutils <- the "[2] means that it is currently in stage 2, or am i wrong? 15:16 < mnemoc> laga_: yes 15:17 < fake> nssdb still causes relocation errors on mips 15:17 < fake> who the f*** needs nssdb? 15:17 < daja77> on p4 too 15:17 < laga_> err. i think i found the problem. stage 2 uses chroot? 15:17 < daja77> i removed that before continuing the build as blindcoder advised me to do 15:18 < mnemoc> clifford: can we *remove* nssdb? 15:18 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-30-76.reverse.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:18 < mnemoc> laga_: yes 15:18 < holyolli> moin 15:18 < mnemoc> moin holyolli 15:19 < holyolli> hola locomnemoco ;-) 15:19 < mnemoc> laga_: for building in stage 2 you need an absolutly successful stage 0 and 1 15:19 < holyolli> (that was for the alcoholy... ;-) 15:19 < daja77> hmm now the number of broken packages reduces to the ones who have trouble with alsa update 15:19 < daja77> hi holyolli 15:19 < mnemoc> holyolli: i'm not crazy i only have cronic stress 15:19 < holyolli> hi da 15:20 < holyolli> ja77... 15:20 < daja77> grrr 15:20 * fake votes for wipe 15:20 < holyolli> mnemoc: a lot of work to do? 15:21 < mnemoc> i need money, and work gives it... but the crazy doctor thinks i have to that a 4 weeks vacation 15:22 < mnemoc> s/that/have/g 15:22 < laga_> mnemoc, yeah, seems so. binutils is bitching about "chown: `root.root': invalid user" in stage 2. :( is there any way to solve this problem, or do i have to rebuild stage1&2 15:24 < holyolli> mnemoc: i know that problem...not with illness, but with a general big lack of time :( 15:25 < clifford> fake: ad cookies: you where using w3m right? 15:26 < fake> yeah 15:26 < clifford> hmm.. there are cases where nssdb is very useful. 15:26 < clifford> w3m needs -cookie .... *G* 15:26 < clifford> but if you have a sm working tree you can simply type "sm admin" .. 15:27 < fake> okay 15:30 < clifford> nssdb on mips: does "objdump -T /lib/libnss_db.so.2" show any symbols from libdb? 15:30 < clifford> (or "ldd /lib/libnss_db.so.2" any references to libdb?) 15:32 < fake> cliff: just a second... 15:32 < mnemoc> clifford: BROWSER=links sm admin works great :) 15:32 < fake> i deleted libnss_db ;) 15:33 < daja77> hehe 15:33 < clifford> fake: removing the entry from /etc/nsswitch.conf was noth enought!? 15:33 < fake> i didn't try that. 15:33 < fake> muahaha. 15:33 < fake> i move it to /root on the cobalt 15:33 < fake> here is ldd's output: 15:34 < fake> root@pumuckl:~# ldd libnss_db-2.2.3.so 15:34 < fake> libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x2ab80000) 15:34 < fake> /lib/ld.so.1 => /lib/ld.so.1 (0x55580000) 15:34 < fake> no bdb 15:34 < netrunner> *g* pumuckl 15:34 < fake> cobalt = kobold ? ;)) 15:34 < clifford> please don't post the objdump output here... ;-) 15:34 < fake> netrunner: do you work at it4us? 15:34 < netrunner> fake: no, how do you come to that idea? 15:35 < mnemoc> clifford: cron need an existant cron.d to run 15:35 < fake> db_create is the only candidate... 15:35 < fake> netrunner: someone working on rocklinux works in that munich firm... 15:35 < fake> i just don't know who - you were a canidate 15:36 * netrunner works for bsh 15:36 * netrunner works for money ;) 15:36 * fake works for glory 15:36 * mnemoc works for food :( 15:36 * daja77 works to get depressed 15:38 < netrunner> esden doesnt work at all ;) 15:38 < clifford> fake: yup. that db_create shouldn't be there. 15:39 < blindcoder> fake: IS 4 IT maybe? 15:39 < fake> blindcoder: maybe. so that's you? 15:40 < fake> clifford: what to do? 15:40 < clifford> i don't know. 15:40 < netrunner> IntelligenceServices 4 InternationalTerrorists 15:40 < blindcoder> fake: yes 15:40 < fake> blindcoder: your firm got in contact with mine ;) 15:40 < blindcoder> netrunner: pssssst 15:40 * clifford is so happy that _this_ is not on an irc log now... ;-) 15:41 < blindcoder> fake: hoeh? Name of the guy? 15:41 < fake> blindcoder: olli is watching some cluster ldap at the hypo-vereinsbank 15:41 < blindcoder> clifford: ehm... it _is_ logged... just not put on the website automaticall 15:41 < fake> 'galgenfrist' 15:41 < netrunner> bombs on rocklinux :) 15:42 < blindcoder> fake: ah, I see. That's the job I should have done but I don't know anything about ldap 15:42 < netrunner> we can hide in our own caves :) 15:42 < fake> hehe 15:42 < fake> rock linux is a weapon of mass distribution 15:42 < clifford> fake: "galgenfrist" = reprieve" or "last respite" 15:43 < netrunner> fake: sure, they stone people to death for centuries in the countries of the axis of evil ;) 15:44 < blindcoder> fake: but that contact still doesn't beat huebi sitting a few corners around from me at HypoVB :) 15:44 < blindcoder> fake: who's the guy from IS4IT? 15:46 < darix> clifford: https://www.josander.net/subversion/svndumps/ 15:48 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-152.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 15:49 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-152.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:51 < fake> blindcoder: no idea 15:51 < fake> hm, eclipse is great 15:55 < darix> fake: what eclipse version with what javahl version do you run? 15:56 < daja77> anyone with wine experience here? 15:57 < clifford> https://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/smadm.cgi?i=2004011515285327692 15:57 < clifford> ... Tim Waugh just implemented a feature in patchutils I need for SubMaster. cool! 15:58 < darix> hmm how long do you use svn for rocklinux? 15:59 < blindcoder> 1.5 years IIRC 15:59 < fake> darix: 3.0M6 with 1.4.2 15:59 < fake> darix: why? 15:59 < clifford> svn log -r 1 https://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-linux/ 15:59 < clifford> ... says since 2003-04-26 01:28:20 +0200 (Sat, 26 Apr 2003) 16:00 < blindcoder> darix: a bit 16:00 < clifford> but rene started using it already before that for his patches, etc (afaik) 16:00 < darix> fake: i tried it and it crashes for me with heap exception :) 16:00 * darix builds svn rpms for SuSE ;) 16:02 < fake> darix: strange?! 16:02 < fake> darix: it works fine here 16:02 < darix> fake: ill check again later 16:10 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-152.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16:11 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-054-071.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:11 < rolla> re 16:14 < daja77> hi rolla 16:16 < rxr> re 16:17 < rolla> hallo 16:17 < daja77> hi rxr 16:18 < rolla> daja77: my build now die with a different error :9 16:18 < daja77> ah a change 16:19 < rolla> yeah 16:19 < rolla> I must rerun my build to capture the error 16:20 < laga_> have you deleted the error logs? 16:20 < daja77> please don't flood again ;-) 16:21 < rolla> I won't 16:21 < daja77> rolla: you know wine? 16:23 < laga_> .oO(...maybe i can emulate a windows-vmware where i can build my rock linux...) 16:23 * mnemoc kicks laga_ 16:23 < daja77> well done 16:23 < laga_> mnemoc, ;) 16:24 < rxr> SMP: around ? 16:24 < mnemoc> laga_: do you have errors on stage 0 or 1? 16:24 < laga_> mnemoc, i dont think so. at least, i dont have any error logs.. ;) 16:25 < laga_> btw, build-target complains about a mising /etc/profile at the beginning of stage 2. does this matter? 16:26 < mnemoc> mmm 16:35 < rolla> crap gnome got worse 16:35 < daja77> hm? 16:37 < rolla> 2.5.1 16:37 < rolla> I think they went backwards 16:38 < laga_> what do you mean with "got worse"? is it unstable? 16:38 < rolla> no they made it more like windows 95 16:39 < laga_> unstable. 16:39 < rolla> and you can't change how it is setup up 16:39 < laga_> ;) 16:39 < rolla> ugly 16:40 < laga_> hey, at least, you can use gnome. the gnome on my laptop is broken, grmpf. maybe the "unstable" in debian unstable has something to do with ;) 16:40 < mnemoc> clifford: how can i merge a sent patch with something on queue? 16:40 < rolla> laga_: I would not say use after seeing that I went right back to my kde :) 16:40 < laga_> hehe ;) 16:41 * daja77 creating a wine-ancient package 16:42 < clifford> mnemoc: https://www.rocklinux.org/submaster.html has got a "How do I.." section which covers that. 16:42 < mnemoc> clifford: thanks :) 16:51 < daja77> == 16:45:45 =[9]=> Building daja77/wine-ancient [20030115 2.0.0-rc5]. 16:51 < daja77> grrr 16:52 < laga_> stage )? doesn't it take a lot of time? 16:52 < daja77> huh? 16:52 < mnemoc> ./script/Emerge-Pkg works on stage 9 16:52 < daja77> yep 16:52 < laga_> ah, ok. 16:53 < daja77> haha oof course it doesn't build 16:55 < laga_> hehe ;) i just hacked a little /etc/passwd together, maybe that "root.root not found" error goes away 17:03 < laga_> ok, now it complais about the missing group. *fix* 17:04 < mnemoc> on stage 2??? 17:04 < laga_> yeah. 17:04 < mnemoc> that's strange 17:04 < mnemoc> sysfiles should have created that 17:04 < laga_> i created a /etc/passwd and a /ertc/group by hand, maybe it works now 17:05 < laga_> hmm. maybe sysfiles failed? 17:05 < mnemoc> only you can check that 17:05 < daja77> scripts/Create-Errlist? 17:06 < laga_> yes. if i 'am lucky, it works now. if not, i'm going to rebuild starting from stage 0 17:06 < laga_> daja77, i deleted all the errors ;) 17:06 < daja77> check if there is a .log file 17:06 < laga_> but i didn't notice that there was something wrong with sysfiles... 17:06 < laga_> ok. 17:11 < mnemoc> laga_: if you delete .err build-target will rebuild them 17:12 < laga_> mnemoc, yes. but only if something fails, or am i wrong? 17:14 < mnemoc> if $stage-$pkg.log --> built fine 17:14 < mnemoc> if $stage-$pkg.err -> it failed 17:14 < mnemoc> if $stage-$pkg.out -> build in progress 17:15 < mnemoc> if build-target can't find .log or .err tries to build it 17:15 < laga_> ok, i understood 17:15 < rxr> someone hours ago asked how long we use Subversion 17:16 < mnemoc> darix did 17:16 < rxr> a nice graph of all the official repositories after the test and setup phase is at: 17:16 < rxr> https://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/ 17:17 < rxr> I just repaired the graph generation - it was broken since last night due to the subversion update an the new svn log format change I use as input for the graph ... 17:17 < laga_> hmm, binutils failed again to build. maybe i should start from scratch? ;) 17:17 < mnemoc> rxr: can you split the graph is high and low activity repositories? 17:17 < mnemoc> laga_: yes 17:18 < laga_> this time, it says "[..]/binutils/arlex.l: Permission denied 17:18 < laga_> " 17:18 < mnemoc> laga_: are you building as root? 17:18 < laga_> mnemoc, ok. 17:18 < laga_> yes, i am building as root. 17:19 < laga_> cleanup -all should do the job, or has anyone a better suggestions? 17:19 < mnemoc> mmm... openssh don' have a $sysconfdir 17:19 < mnemoc> laga_: -full 17:20 < laga_> mnemoc, i mix this up each time ;) 17:22 * daja77 wants to hit sth 17:23 < laga_> daja77, have fun ;) 17:24 * daja77 hits laga_ :D 17:24 * mnemoc gives daja77 a glass of wine ;) 17:25 < daja77> waaaah 17:25 < mnemoc> and a cookie 17:26 < daja77> cookies are good 17:29 < mnemoc> wine too :) 17:29 < mnemoc> better if it's chilean ;) 17:29 < daja77> i need whisky today 17:29 < daja77> to kill the pain 17:30 < laga_> i've just got beer ;) 17:30 < daja77> pah! 17:31 * mnemoc gives daja a glass of his 12 years scotch 17:32 < daja77> i have just noise here 17:32 < daja77> oh thank you mnemoc 17:32 < mnemoc> you are welcome daja 17:33 < daja77> [mnemoc] 17:33 < daja77> :D 17:34 < mnemoc> :) 17:56 -!- Aard [~bwachter@aardchat.net] has quit (Client Quit) 17:59 -!- Aard [~bwachter@aardchat.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:14 < netrunner> what is the thing containing / during scripts/Build-Pkg? because $ROCKCFG_PKG_GAMES_DATADIR contains no leading / 18:17 < mnemoc> hm? what thing are u tlaking abouit?= 18:18 < netrunner> i think it should be $root ... but it does not seem to work :( 18:19 < netrunner> var_append confopt " " "--datadir=${root}${ROCKCFG_PKG_GAMES_DATADIR}" 18:19 < mnemoc> $root/$prefix/foo 18:19 < netrunner> --datadir=usr/shar 18:19 * daja77 off now 18:20 < rxr> netrunner: yes the '/' is missing ... 18:20 < mnemoc> rxr: the config must be assuming a leading / 18:20 < netrunner> rxr: ah, root=''? 18:21 < mnemoc> netrunner: yes 18:21 < rxr> netrunner: yes 18:21 < netrunner> thx :) 18:21 < rxr> me shortly away ... 18:21 < mnemoc> rxr: can you add etc/cron.d to 00-dirtree ? 18:21 < mnemoc> cron don't start without it 18:21 < mnemoc> :( 18:23 < netrunner> is that new? (or maybe the package started checking it's options better in the new version :) 18:24 < mnemoc> not new 18:25 < netrunner> thought so, just wondered. 18:26 < mnemoc> e.g. $root/$prefix/etc ---> '//etc' 18:36 -!- zenlunatic [~zen@user-2ivepf0.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #rocklinux 19:02 < rxr> mnemoc: done 19:02 < rxr> Wow: 19:02 < rxr> revision 2200 19:06 < blindcoder> rxr: is it possible to do a var_append globally, ie for the whole build? 19:07 < rxr> var_append for what? 19:07 < blindcoder> I'd like to var_append GCC_WRAPPER_APPEND " " "-static" 19:07 < blindcoder> ie link all packages statically 19:08 < rxr> in your target? 19:08 < rxr> use a parse-config 19:08 < blindcoder> okay, thanks 19:08 -!- Lorini [~Lorini@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:09 < holyolli> huhu Lorini 19:09 < Lorini> hi holyolli 19:30 < daja77> re 19:32 < fake> hi Lorini! 19:32 < Lorini> hi fake :) 19:32 < daja77> huhu laga_ ;-) 19:32 < daja77> grrr 19:33 < daja77> huhu Lorini 19:33 < Lorini> hi daja ;) 19:39 -!- dsoul [darksoul@www.offspring.art.pl] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 19:39 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M351P015.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 19:41 -!- bluefire [bluefire@p50817C89.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:44 < netrunner> this submaster sucks his arguments when being run with perl sm.pl bla 19:45 < netrunner> hm, no. 19:48 * netrunner building new subversion 19:51 -!- nookie [~nookie@M360P012.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19:56 -!- bluefire_ [bluefire@pD95227D3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:11 -!- bluefire [bluefire@p50817C89.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:13 -!- zenlunatic [~zen@user-2ivepf0.dialup.mindspring.com] has quit (Connection timed out) 20:18 -!- bluefire_ is now known as bluefire 20:24 -!- spiketz [~spike@pD9E9AEC9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:39 < mnemoc> how can i give args to a module loaded by rockplug? 20:53 < blindcoder> /etc/modules.conf ? 20:54 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-053-239.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:56 < darix> does rockplug detects different devices which uses the same driver? so i can specify options per devices? (i know hwscan does create ids for each device it sees) 20:57 < mnemoc> blindcoder: is it considered? 20:58 < blindcoder> mnemoc: it should... 21:01 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD9E4F229.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:01 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@p50801ABC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Nick collision from services.) 21:01 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 21:02 < mnemoc> blindcoder: oh! you were right <:o) 21:04 < blindcoder> of course I was :) 21:04 < blindcoder> modules.conf is used by modprobe/insmod which in turn are used by rockplug 21:05 < mnemoc> blindcoder: i was expecting some dirty code inside rockplug to do it alone :) 21:06 -!- codrezel [~Asmoday@pD9EB70B6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:06 < darix> blindcoder: what about my problem. will rockplug solve it? 21:06 < codrezel> hi 21:11 < blindcoder> darix: IIRC rockplug uses the same mechanism as hwscan, but that's a question better directed at rxr or clifford 21:12 < blindcoder> sorry >_< 21:14 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-054-071.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21:27 < daja77> cool 20c3 video plays with xine 21:27 < daja77> not with mplayer btw 21:35 -!- kandinski [~kandinski@62-151-140-42.tp24.ya.com] has joined #rocklinux 21:35 < kandinski> esden 21:36 < kandinski> fake 21:36 < kandinski> I talked to you during CCC 2000, and took your picture 21:36 < kandinski> how are you doing? 21:45 < blindcoder> daja77: and perl doesn't like -static 21:47 < fake> [i 21:47 < fake> hi 21:47 < fake> kandinski: the spanish guy? 21:48 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-052-049.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:50 -!- A-Tui [~aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 21:51 < A-Tui> hi all 21:52 < blindcoder> GAH! Why the fuck does coreutils need perl to compile! *GRAAAAAH* 21:53 < mnemoc> blindcoder: kernel does too 21:54 < blindcoder> d'oh... 21:54 < laga_> hmm, i need better hardware...it takes a long time to compile on a machine with 700 mhz ;) 21:54 < kandinski> fake: yes 21:55 < kandinski> I remember I wrote you with the pictures I took 21:55 < kandinski> but I think you never saw the article 21:55 < kandinski> fake: it's online, in case you know someone who reads Spanish 21:55 < blindcoder> pictures? FAKE allowed pictures to be taken of him??? 21:55 < blindcoder> my world collapses... 21:57 < kandinski> blindcoder, beeleeveetornot 21:57 < kandinski> unfortunately I am on a cheap dial-up that doesn't let me see my server 22:03 -!- ija [[ea9wbn5A4@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 22:05 < fake> kandinski: i think we read the article, translated by some online translator... IIRC 22:08 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-053-239.arcor-ip.net] has quit (No route to host) 22:26 -!- kandinski [~kandinski@62-151-140-42.tp24.ya.com] has quit (Success) 22:31 -!- kandinski [~kandinski@62-151-150-1.tp24.ya.com] has joined #rocklinux 22:32 < codrezel> F1 22:32 < mnemoc> hm? 22:32 < codrezel> i have a little prob 22:32 < codrezel> can u help me? 22:33 < laga_> ,aybe. hust ask ;) 22:33 < mnemoc> everything depends of what rpoblem do u want my help 22:33 < laga_> err. "maybe, just ask" 22:33 < codrezel> i upgraded my linux system from 2.4.22 kernel to 2.6.1 kernel 22:33 < codrezel> ,but now my framebuffer doesnīt start... 22:34 < mnemoc> codrezel: tried by hand? (modprobe) 22:34 < codrezel> he canīt find the device under 2.6.1, but under 2.4.22 he starts... 22:34 < codrezel> i donīt know why 22:34 < mnemoc> depmod? 22:34 < holyolli> codrezel: did you compile devfs into the kernel? 22:35 < codrezel> yes i compiled it into the kernel 22:35 * mnemoc is stupid today... today?.... today 22:37 < codrezel> no one knows...? 22:38 -!- spiketz [~spike@pD9E9AEC9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 22:38 < codrezel> ok, thx, cu 22:38 < mnemoc> the *2.6.1* module can't find a compatible device? 22:38 < codrezel> yes 22:38 < codrezel> it canīt find it 22:39 < kandinski> fake, esden: I fell and don't know whether you said anything 22:39 < mnemoc> have you tried adding it built in? 22:39 < kandinski> anyway, just wanted to ask how is everything 22:39 < codrezel> yes 22:39 < codrezel> i tried... 22:39 < codrezel> but itīs the same 22:39 < mnemoc> what dmesg say about your video card? 22:40 < codrezel> ? 22:40 < mnemoc> dmesg | less 22:40 < codrezel> wait 22:42 < codrezel> very much 22:42 < codrezel> what do u want to know? 22:48 < mnemoc> if kernel found your video card, use it's info to install de fb module 22:50 < codrezel> it says itīs a ati radeon, i installed the radeonfb 22:50 < codrezel> but it doesnīt start... 22:50 < codrezel> thatīs the prob i have 22:50 < codrezel> itīs the same like under 2.4.22 but there it starts...under 2.6.1 not 22:52 < mnemoc> look in the doc options for radeonfb, u should can give it the card in the hand 22:53 < codrezel> hm,ok, iīll try...thx 22:54 < mnemoc> sorry i can't give you a 'magic tip' 22:55 < codrezel> itīs ok, maybe i get it... 22:56 < codrezel> ok, i have to go now, thx, cu 22:56 -!- codrezel [~Asmoday@pD9EB70B6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit () 23:04 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-30-76.reverse.qsc.de] has quit ("Leaving") 23:09 < mnemoc> any reason to have php on /usr ? 23:09 < mnemoc> SMP:? 23:09 < netrunner> mnemoc: you do not need it at boot? 23:09 < mnemoc> :) 23:10 < mnemoc> why not at /opt/apache 23:10 < netrunner> mnemoc: because you can have php without apache. same with mysql :) 23:10 < mnemoc> ack about mysql 23:10 < mnemoc> but php... 23:11 < mnemoc> yes you can.. but... 23:11 < mnemoc> ok 23:12 * mnemoc can't understand ppl how try to do what they should do with perl with php 23:12 < mnemoc> php is everyday more fat 23:18 < netrunner> hm ... builder kernel: MCE: The hardware reports a non fatal, correctable incident occurred on CPU 1. 23:18 < netrunner> nice to know. 23:19 < mnemoc> cute error 23:19 -!- Lorini [~Lorini@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has left #rocklinux ("Angels are bright still, though the brightest fell.") 23:22 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-41-192.reverse.qsc.de] has quit (Ping timeout: 14400 seconds) 23:29 < netrunner> sm create rock svn://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-linux/trunk 23:29 < netrunner> svn: '.' is not a working copy 23:29 < netrunner> what is my problem today? 23:31 < netrunner> ah, the turned options problem ... 23:32 < netrunner> D: svnadmin create /usr/src/rock-linux.sm/SVN 23:32 < netrunner> svn: Berkeley DB error while creating environment for filesystem /usr/src/rock-linux.sm/SVN/db: 23:32 < netrunner> Invalid argument 23:32 < netrunner> grmblgrmpft 23:33 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-072-088.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:34 < darix> wtf is sm? 23:34 < darix> i know svk ... 23:34 < daja77> submaster 23:34 < netrunner> darix: submaster, a tool to handle subversion better 23:34 -!- cytrinox` [~dj-nail@p213.54.197.201.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23:34 < netrunner> darix: ah, admit you're ignoring my complaints! ;) 23:35 -!- cytrinox` [~dj-nail@p213.54.238.199.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 23:35 < darix> netrunner: i dont ignore them im just busy. 23:35 < darix> url to submaster? 23:35 * netrunner wildly guessing and building bdb42 23:35 < netrunner> darix: sorry, i meant daja77 23:35 < darix> oh ic :D 23:35 < netrunner> not even tab-completion works for me today. 23:35 < daja77> <- watching c3 video 23:35 < netrunner> darix: svn co svn://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/submaster submaster 23:35 < daja77> just need a pause 23:36 < netrunner> darix: np :) 23:36 < darix> quite old stuff netrunner :) 23:36 < mnemoc> netrunner: it was moved to submaster/trunk 23:36 -!- A-Tui [~aitor@cable65a154.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("Satanás, el infierno es demasiado dulce!") 23:36 < netrunner> mnemoc: I just checked it out that way ... 23:37 < mnemoc> sure you can, but you will get submaster/trunk in your working copy 23:37 < mnemoc> check it :) 23:37 < netrunner> mnemoc: ok, you win. 23:37 < mnemoc> :) 23:38 < darix> looks like another offline svn try :D 23:38 < mnemoc> darix: it's not a 'try'... we are using it 23:38 < mnemoc> www.rocklinux.org/submaster.html 23:39 < darix> mnemoc: yeah there are other solutions for the problem :) 23:39 * netrunner is failing to use it. 23:40 < darix> mnemoc: https://monsters.rsn.uni-rostock.de/~darix/svnmirror.sh.txt =) 23:40 * netrunner goes to bed, makes no sense to continue today. n8* 23:40 < mnemoc> darix: the purpose is not the offline part, the purpose is the patch handling 23:41 < mnemoc> gn8 netrunner 23:41 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-052-049.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23:43 < rolla> yawn 23:44 < mnemoc> hi rolla 23:44 < rolla> hallo mnemoc 23:44 < rolla> my rock build sucks 23:44 < darix> added to my link db :) 23:45 -!- maisenhe [~maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-237.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:45 < mnemoc> it's very dependant to patchutils 23:45 -!- maisenhe is now known as rolla2 23:46 < rolla2> :) 23:46 -!- rolla [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-233.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has quit ("leaving") 23:46 -!- rolla2 is now known as rolla 23:46 < mnemoc> ehm 23:46 -!- rolla [~maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-237.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has quit (Client Quit) --- Log closed Fri Jan 16 00:00:55 2004