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00:34 * -> esden tested submaster today ... I would really miss the svn add svn move and svn rm features in it if I had the time to use it ... 
00:34 < daja77> n8 you all
00:37 < darix> hi esden 
00:47 < mnemoc> esden: you have svn add/rm
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05:20 < rus_bob> hi all !
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07:34 < holyolli> moin
07:37 < owl> hi holyolli 
07:38 < holyolli> huhu owl
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09:01 < owl> hi Nebukadneza 
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09:06 < Baldzius> morning
09:07 < owl> hi Baldzius 
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09:41 < blindcoder> moin
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09:44 < owl> hi blindy
09:45 < blindcoder> moun owly!
09:46 < owl> moun?
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09:47 < blindcoder> typo (^_^);
09:47 < owl> hehe 
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10:38 < jsaw_> re
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10:39 < blindcoder> moin jsaw 
10:39 < jsaw> g'morning blindcoder 
10:40 < blindcoder> dammit, I hate this >_<
10:40 < blindcoder> paperwork >_<
10:40 < jsaw> ?
10:41 < blindcoder> my boss wants me to create a 5-page profile in addition to the 3-page "tabellarischem Profil" I already made >_<
10:44 < jsaw> *no comment*
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11:37 < netrunner> moin
11:38 < blindcoder> moin moin
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11:46 < netrunner> hm?
11:46 * netrunner going home chasing food
11:47 < blindcoder> i still need an idea on what to cook
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12:00 < owl> *yawn*
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12:30 < blindcoder> *schmatz*
12:32 < owl> blindcoder: what food?
12:33 < blindcoder> not ready, but almost :)
12:33 < owl> pah
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13:24 < LocalHero> Whats up with the svn? Still not switched?
13:24 < mnemoc> moin
13:24 < mnemoc> LocalHero: ?
13:24 < LocalHero> hi mnemoc
13:25 < mnemoc> # svn up
13:25 < mnemoc> At revision 2200.
13:26 < LocalHero> hmm, i get 
13:26 < LocalHero> svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/rock-linux'svn: PROPFIND of '/rock-linux': 301 Moved Permanently (http://svn2.rocklinux-consulting.de)
13:26 < LocalHero> sorry, there should be /trunk with that, but same result :)
13:27 < LocalHero> ahh, lunch ready, brb
13:27 < mnemoc> have you tried using svn:// instead of http://?
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13:32 < owl> hi daja77 
13:33 < daja77> hi owl
13:33 < daja77> grmpf
13:33 < mnemoc> hi daja77, owl
13:33 < daja77> ho mnemoc 
13:33 < blindcoder> moin daja77 , mnemoc 
13:33 < daja77> hi blindy
13:33 < mnemoc> meep meep blindcoder 
13:34 < daja77> university server was rebooted this morning >_<
13:34 < blindcoder> daja77: why?
13:35 < mnemoc> it's windows and needed service pack :)
13:35 < daja77> dunno why, normally there is an announcement in a local newsgroup
13:36 < daja77> you think me chats from a windows machine?
13:36 < mnemoc> rdesktop? ;)
13:36 < daja77> grrr
13:36 < mnemoc> this 'wine' thing yesterday makes me doubt :)
13:37 < daja77> Linux odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de 2.4.20-28.7smp #1 SMP Thu Dec 18 11:18:31 EST 2003 i686 unknown
13:38 < mnemoc> :)
13:38 < laga> re
13:38 < daja77> Red Hat Linux release 7.3 (Valhalla)
13:38 < daja77> :p
13:38 < mnemoc> that was the last RH i installed
13:38 < daja77> ah maybe they had kernel issues again
13:38 < laga> oh no. the same error as yesterday occured while building binutils :/
13:38 < daja77> hehe i stopped when using rh8
13:39 < mnemoc> laga: what is your machine?
13:39 < laga> i tested red hat 9 half  an year ago, it was nice, but i prefer debian
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13:39 * daja77 shudders
13:40 < laga_> mnemoc, this is athlon 700 mhz with 128 mb sdram, running debian testing/unstable (-> knoppix 3.1 hd-install)
13:40 < mnemoc> what stage gives you the binutils error?
13:40 < laga_> stage 2.
13:41 < mnemoc> hm..
13:41 < mnemoc> brb
13:42 < LocalHero> ahh, now i know whats wrong, firewall issues :-)
13:43 < laga_> "chown: `root.root': invalid user" <- this seems to be the error. yesterday, you said something about "sysfiles", which should fix that. but i can't find anything about sysfiles in $root/var/adm/logs...
13:44 < laga_> but, no. there is another error. the chown error occurs while doing "Creating file list and doing final adaptions ..."
13:44 < laga_> maybe this i normal in stage 2.
13:44 < laga_> but, this seems to be the real error: "../../binutils/../ylwrap: lineCreating file list and doing final adaptions ... 86: /R.work/src.binutils.1074211558.15553.2196669184/binutils-2.14.90.0.7/objdir/binutils/../../binutils/arlex.l: Permission denied
13:44 < laga_> "
13:44 < daja77> you build it as root?
13:45 < laga_> yes.
13:45 < daja77> hm
13:45 < blindcoder> your root user has uid 0?
13:45 < laga_> "root@filebitch", i think i'm root.
13:45 < laga_> moment.
13:45 < blindcoder> please do an `id`
13:46 < daja77> hehe good question blindy
13:46 < laga_> uid 0, yes. gid 0, yes.
13:46 < blindcoder> strange...
13:46 < blindcoder> what system are you building on?
13:47 < laga_> daja77, if root isn't uid 0, i think that i should beat someone on knoppix.org ;)
13:47 < laga_> <laga_> mnemoc, this is athlon 700 mhz with 128 mb sdram, running debian testing/unstable (-> knoppix 3.1 hd-install)
13:47 < owl> bye
13:47 < laga_> cu owl
13:47 < owl> <- running away trying to catch the next intercity to home
13:47 < blindcoder> bye owl
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13:48 < blindcoder> laga_: can you do a chown root.root on other files on your machine?
13:49 < laga_> yes.
13:49 < laga_> btw, this error occurs inside the chroot
13:50 < blindcoder> stage 2 isn't chrooted IIRC
13:50 < blindcoder> btw.: does the file with "Permission denied" exist?
13:55 < laga_> please wait, find takes a lot of time ;)
13:55 < mnemoc> [ $stagelevel -gt 1 ] && cmd_root="$cmd_root -chroot"
13:56 < blindcoder> ok, i was wrong (^_^);
13:56 < mnemoc> :>
13:56 < laga_> ;)
13:57 < laga_> it exists...
13:57 < laga_> ./src.binutils.1074211558.15553.2196669184/R.src/binutils-2.14.90.0.7/binutils/arlex.l ;)
13:58 < mnemoc> laga_: check its permissions please
13:58 < laga_> "-rw-r--r--    1 root     root "
13:58 < mnemoc> hm..
14:00 < laga_> i'd love to change the host system to some precompiled rock linux, but i don't want any downtime because it is my fileserver ;)
14:11 < mnemoc> i build p4 :\
14:13 < laga_> hmm, have you tried to reproduce my error?
14:15 < mnemoc> i works perfect here :'(
14:15 < mnemoc> it
14:16 < mnemoc> i'm worried about your root.root problem
14:16 < laga_> damned. which system are you running?
14:19 < mnemoc> rock-2.0.0-rc5
14:19 < laga_> dito.
14:19 < mnemoc> in your $builddir/root/etc/passwd
14:19 < mnemoc> there is something?
14:19 < laga_> hmm. i think, that it is an issue with debian.
14:20 < laga_> nope, there isn't anything. yestewrday, i created one by hand, but i just gave me another error
14:20 < mnemoc> many ppl build their rock over debian
14:20 < mnemoc> does the file exist?
14:20 < laga_> hmm, ok. seems that there is stil lhope for me ;)
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14:21 < mnemoc> grep passwd $builddir/root/var/adm/flists/sysfiles
14:21 < laga_> nope, the file doesn't exist
14:21 < laga_> /root/var/adm/flists/sysfiles: No such file or directory
14:21 < mnemoc> can you compress and mail me your var/adm/logs/1-sysfiles.log ?
14:21 < mnemoc> what???!!!
14:22 < laga_> nope. an no, i don't have a logfile from sysfiles.
14:22 < mnemoc> mm... did you insert your builddir there?
14:22 < mnemoc> build/foo-*/ <--- builddir
14:23 < laga_> err. oops. sorry, i thought that it was a variable ;)
14:26 < cytrinox`> moin
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14:26 < laga_> 1-sysfiles doesnt exist
14:26 < laga_> 1-sysfiles.log
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14:27 < mnemoc> grep "^X" config/$config/packages | wc -l
14:29 < laga_> "94"
14:30 < mnemoc> what target/template/pkgsel did u do?
14:30 < laga_> "minimal + xfree86"
14:33 < mnemoc> generic?
14:33 < mnemoc> any pkgsel?
14:33 < mnemoc> owl: does your template work
14:33 < mnemoc> ?
14:33 < laga_> please wait, i'm rerunning scirpts/Config
14:35 < mnemoc> minimal+xfree86 has 97 for me
14:38 < laga_> strange. i went into "costum package selection", but it was to complex for me, so i disabled it again
14:38 < laga_> maybe i should delete my config and rerun it?
14:39 < mnemoc> rm config/$config/pkgsel
14:39 < mnemoc> ./script/Config -cfg $config -oldconfig
14:39 < mnemoc> and grep again
14:40 < laga_> pkgsel doesn't exist?!
14:41 < mnemoc> what rev are u building?
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14:42 < laga_> release candidate 5. i updated from rc4.
14:44 < mnemoc> mv config/$config config/$config-backup
14:45 < mnemoc> ./scripts/Config -cfg $config
14:45 < mnemoc> athlon + generic + expert + minimal/xf86 template -> 97 packages
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14:47 < laga_> ok, i'll try this later. now, i have to go. thanks for the support, you guys really rock ;)
14:47 < rolla> re
14:47 < laga_> re rola
14:48 < mnemoc> keep rocking laga_ 
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14:55 < rolla> i386-unknown-linux-gnu-cc: /usr/dietlibc/lib-i386/start.o: No such file or directory
14:55 < rolla> anyone seen this error?
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14:56 < daja77> sounds like dynamic linking and dietlibc
14:56 < blindcoder> bash2.05b# depmod
14:56 < blindcoder> bash: /sbin/depmod: no such file or directory
14:56 < blindcoder> anyone seen _that_ error?
14:56 < rolla> nope
14:56 < blindcoder> rolla: seems like your dietlibc didn't build
14:57 < rolla> hmm
14:57 < rolla> let me check the log
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14:59 < rene> re
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15:00 < rolla> blindcoder: I have no errors
15:00 < blindcoder> moin rxr
15:00 < blindcoder> rolla: which package throws that error?
15:00 < blindcoder> rxr: can you make sense out of this:
15:00 < blindcoder> bash2.05b# depmod
15:01 < blindcoder> bash: /sbin/depmod: no such file or directory
15:01 < blindcoder> (copied manually)
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15:03 < rolla> Creating initrd data:
15:03 < rxr> blindcoder: oehm
15:03 < rxr> blindcoder: hashed by bash and then unlinked?
15:06 < blindcoder> rxr: no, the file exists
15:06 < mnemoc> if he gets a path it must be what rxr said
15:06 < blindcoder> file says it's a dynamically linked ELF
15:06 < mnemoc> ldd?
15:06 < blindcoder> ldd is a shell script which tries to call the program, so it also says nsfod
15:07 < mnemoc> :(
15:07 < blindcoder> it's from a build (LVP) with var_append GCC_WRAPPER_APPEND " " "-static" in its parse-config
15:08 < blindcoder> still some (~half) of the programs is dynamically linked >_<
15:08 < spiketz> hello @all 
15:08 < blindcoder> hi spiketz 
15:08 < spiketz> does anyone here run rocklinux on an ibook :) ?
15:08 * blindcoder making some cappu
15:09 < spiketz> i couldn't get the ~ | @ on a german keyboard under X11 :(
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15:13 < mnemoc> there is something like 'alt-$i' on mac?
15:13 * mnemoc curious
15:16 < rolla> blindcoder: I get those erros about dietlibc when the creating initrd data: is going on
15:16 < rolla> I get 2 errors and then the build stops
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15:23 < spiketz> mnemonic: yes with the right Xmodmap :)
15:26 < mnemoc> spiketz: thats an option :)
15:27 < spiketz> mnemonic : yes but now it works 
15:27 < mnemoc> good
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15:58 < LocalHero> Wahoo, lightning build speed with duron 1200 insted of celeron 450 :)
16:00 < mnemoc> i passed this week from 4 days minimal build to 1 night builds :)
16:00 < LocalHero> hehe, well last time i built on 450 it took 2 weeks or something like that
16:05 < mnemoc> minimal vs. desktop :)
16:30 < LocalHero> hmm, still get error when building linux24-src :(
16:30 < netrunner> blindcoder: strace depmod 
16:30 < blindcoder> netrunner: hmm..
16:30 * netrunner likes strace ;)
16:31 < blindcoder> netrunner: I "fixed" it by not compiling it with -static
16:31 < netrunner> blindcoder: see what he tries to open, I bet its the kernel :)
16:31 < blindcoder> then it works like a charm
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16:59 * daja77 waves
17:00 < rolla> damn build
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17:28 * daja77 off to clug now
17:32 < rxr> re
17:47 < laga_> re
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18:05 < blindcoder> rxr: how were your exams?
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19:40 < rolla> yawn
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20:13 < batok> I ran ./scripts/Config -cfg , but I am in an endless loop ... cannot escape from the program, anybody help me ?
20:15 < batok> I did a ctrl Z 
20:18 < blindcoder> where does it loop?
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20:25 < batok> I type put cursor over Exit but never quits the program
20:25 < batok> over Exit and Press Return of course
20:26 < tcr> moin all
20:26 < tcr> batok, talking about dialog (scripts/Config) ?
20:26 < batok> yes
20:28 < blindcoder> strange
20:30 < tcr> batok, Are you talking about HEAD?
20:31 < batok> I don't know what is HEAD
20:32 < tcr> batok, latest revision from the svn repository
20:32 < batok> is rc3
20:32 < batok> I downloaded recently
20:33 < batok> the one included in the iso
20:33 < batok> do you recommend me better to use a more up to date version ?
20:33 < tcr> batok, okay, well give me some minutes.. dinner got ready
20:34 < batok> bon appetite
20:34 < tcr> batok, I don't think it'll matter, but you could try the latest revision (how you get that, that's described at the website methinks)
20:34 < tcr> thx
20:35 < batok> I installed the iso s ( rc3 ) then I am using what is at /usr/src/rock-src
20:42 < fake> ./scripts/Configure -cfg 
20:42 < fake> that is not quite right ;)
20:42 < fake> try ./scripts/Configure
20:42 < fake> or
20:42 < fake> ./scripts/Configure -cfg somename
20:42 * fake away
20:42 < batok> tks
20:42 < fake> have fun!
20:43 < batok> It worked!
20:43 < fake> ;)
20:45 < blindcoder> WEE! XFree finally links statically!
20:45 < blindcoder> Configure? not Config?
20:54 < rxr> blindcoder: why do you link statically ?
20:58 < blindcoder> rxr: I just need a handful of binaries on LVP
20:58 < blindcoder> I don't need tons of libraries with subdependencies
20:58 < blindcoder> so I then just cp those few files into the lvp rootdir and be done with it
20:59 < blindcoder> at least, that's the theory :)
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21:10 < blindcoder> GAH! mplayer is overwriting its confopt in mplayer.conf
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21:16 < A-Tui> hi all
21:19 < mnemoc> hi aitor
21:19 < A-Tui> hola mnemoc
21:20 < A-Tui> how are you?
21:20 < mnemoc> pretty good, and you?
21:20 < A-Tui> i'm fine thanks
21:20 < A-Tui> burning isos :)
21:23 < blindcoder> for some strange reason mplayer doesn't like a var_append confopt in parse-config
21:30 < mnemoc> parsing problem?
21:30 < mnemoc> one thing, parse-config is loaded BEFORE set_confopt
21:30 < mnemoc> so you don't have dirvars defined
21:31 < mnemoc> i had to hook var_append on preconf a couple of times
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21:39 < mnemoc> if mplayer reset it's confopt you can use the same trick
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22:33 < jsaw> re
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22:43 < rxr> hi jsaw 
22:43 < jsaw> hi rxr.
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22:46 < mnemoc> hi jsaw, rxr
22:47 < jsaw> mnemoc, hi!
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22:52 < mnemoc> almost forgot... first run (boot) rocknet/pppoe runs fails to chmod option.ppp0
22:52 < jsaw> checking...
22:53 < jsaw> what error?
22:53 < mnemoc> how legal is to modify rc/network to rocknet auto up; rocknet all up ?
22:53 < mnemoc> file not found
22:54 < mnemoc> btw, have you looked at var/log/rockplug ?? *many* can't touch because non existant var/lock/foo
22:58 < jsaw> ups, that's a bug in /sbin/init.d/system (removes all /var/lock/*). AFAIKR, I changed the path in svn HEAD in rockplug to /var/rockplug...
23:00 < cytrinox`> gn8
23:01 < mnemoc> gn8 jsaw 
23:01 < mnemoc> var/rockplug? when was that?
23:01 < jsaw> sleep well, cytrinox` and mnemoc 
23:01 < mnemoc> no!!
23:01 < mnemoc> that was a typo
23:01 < mnemoc> :)
23:02 < mnemoc> gn8 cytrinox` 
23:04 < jsaw> mnemoc: r152 | george | 2003-12-31 06:18:14 +0100 (Wed, 31 Dec 2003) | 5 lines
23:06 < mnemoc> jsaw: you need to release more often :) that not on rock-trunk
23:06 < jsaw> k.
23:07 < mnemoc> =)
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23:08 < mnemoc> i'm proud to say /me is using rocknet (with pppoe) in production env :)
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23:09 < jsaw> btw proud, I'm on the dietlibc credits scoreboard :)
23:09 < mnemoc> your hit to cdrom problem was amazing :)
23:12 < jsaw> that's science: dig a bit and by chance you'll find something ...
23:12 < jsaw> (I mean, that's how science works)
23:12 < daja77> re
23:13 < jsaw> hello daja77 
23:13 < daja77> hi jsaw 
23:13 < mnemoc> re daja77 
23:13 < daja77> mnemoc :)
23:13 < mnemoc> science or whatever, it was amazing
23:13 < jsaw> thanks!
23:14 < jsaw> rxr: how did your exams go?
23:25 < mnemoc> (silence)
23:26 < jsaw> hmmm...
23:28 < daja77> just normal response lag, checking commit mails meanwhile
23:28 < jsaw> rxr: would you please check my previous rockplug work and bump the version if ok?
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