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01:06 < cytrinox`> gn8 :)
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01:27 < daja77> re
01:38 < mnemoc> *yawn*
01:39 < daja77> hey mnemoc 
01:45 * mnemoc hug daja77 
01:48 < daja77> *rehug*
01:52 * mnemoc to "the last samurai" cu :)
01:52 < daja77> hf
01:52 < mnemoc> thanks
01:52 < mnemoc> bbl
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10:29 < blindcoder> moin
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13:04 < mnemoc> moin
13:05 < laga_> moin mnemoc
13:06 < blindcoder> moin moin
13:06 < daja77> hi mnemoc, blindcoder, laga_, rest of the chan
13:06 < laga_> rehi daja77 ;)
13:13 < mnemoc> hi blindcoder, laga_, daja77, *
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13:43 < A-Tui> hi all
13:43 < daja77> hi A-Tui 
13:43 < blindcoder> moin A-Tui 
13:44 < A-Tui> powermanga is right installed on your rocks?
13:44 < daja77> yeah but it is broken in beta6
13:45 < mnemoc> hi A-Tui 
13:45 < A-Tui> ok, then i must reinstall with new sources
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14:17 * A-Tui is away: Demenciales chicos acelerados!
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15:04 < A-Tui> where are list groups package deps?
15:08 < mnemoc> cripts/dep_db.txt ?
15:08 < netrunne1> A-Tui: scripts/dep_db.txt and in package/blubb/blubb.cache
15:08 < netrunne1> (depdb is created from the .caches)
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15:09 < netrunner> moin btw :)
15:09 < A-Tui> ok netrunner, thanks
15:09 < mnemoc> moin netrunner 
15:09 < A-Tui> that's cool vim show highligh for .desc files :)
15:09 * mnemoc should stop using nvi
15:12 < netrunner> nvi is a sin anyway ;)
15:13 < mnemoc> busybox's vi ? :)
15:13 < A-Tui> mmm i get an error with chksum in powermanga pkg
15:14 < mnemoc> A-Tui: untar both and diff them please
15:14 < A-Tui> mmm mnemoc, i will try to redownload couse i think was a download problem
15:14 < daja77> cool who wrote that patch?
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15:19 < A-Tui> if a program comes with doc i must install it on a ./doc subdir or in /usr/share/doc?
15:20 < mnemoc> A-Tui: use $docdir
15:21 < A-Tui> ok
15:21 < A-Tui> i saw how you use pkgcheck in lynx pkg, i think i must use this function too to the configure script
15:22 < mnemoc> pkgcheck is for config.in 
15:22 < mnemoc> but you can use it in .conf too
15:23 < A-Tui> other thing i have added my pkgs with a 999.000 preference, it's that ok?
15:24 < mnemoc> have you see misc/archive/newpackage.sh?
15:24 < mnemoc> a high prio num, is always safe for pacakge with nobody dep on
15:25 < mnemoc> the script propose 800, but 999 is ok imo
15:25 < A-Tui> i will look newpackage.sh
15:26 < A-Tui> Cksum ERROR: download/kasc/powermanga/powermanga-0.76.tar.gz.cksum-err (545128608)
15:26 < A-Tui> there is a new version 0.78
15:27 < mnemoc> ./scripts/Create-PkgUpdate powermanga-0.78
15:28 < mnemoc> nad if you like the proposed patch, run it with | patch -p1
15:28 < A-Tui> ok
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15:29 < A-Tui> Create-PkgUpdPatch, i think now the patch option is mandatory :)
15:30 < mnemoc> sometimes the new version makes the script alter more than ver version
15:30 < mnemoc> s/ver/the/2
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15:39 < A-Tui> when a package must build 2 tarballs, it uses the same confopt and same options for both?
15:41 < mnemoc> 2x(untar, configure; make ; make install) ?
15:41 < A-Tui> yes, well when using [SRC]
15:42 < A-Tui> i want add doc in the same package
15:42 < mnemoc> if the answer to my question was a no, you can untar it on 'postmake'
15:43 < A-Tui> mmmm no, the doc tarball needs a configure and make install
15:44 < mnemoc> if you won't use .patch files, use [SRC] *
15:46 < A-Tui> ok, i will try to see how it works with [SRC]
15:46 < mnemoc> if you need to use patches you will need to use build_this_package on .conf
15:46 < A-Tui> ok
15:47 < mnemoc> the bad on [SRC] is that you share hooks and patchfiles between arcvhies
15:47 < mnemoc> but in normal cases that's not a problem
15:48 < A-Tui> well if a want to use diferent prefix for each tarball it would be a problem
15:49 < mnemoc> set mainfunction on .conf
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15:49 < A-Tui> ok
15:49 < mnemoc> and do your two build_this_package with your settings
15:49 < A-Tui> ok
15:54 * A-Tui is away: comiendo
15:54 < A-Tui> time to lunch, cu
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16:21 < nos> hi @ll
16:21 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
16:21 < nos> can anyone help me with the mozilla package?
16:36 < cytrinox> moin
16:36 < nos> hi
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16:44 < A-Tui> hi kasc
16:47 < nos> can anyone help me with the mozilla package?
16:48 < laga_> nos: can you ask more specific?
16:48 < nos> i tried to buil;d it with Build-Pkg
16:49 < nos> and then i get the error:
16:49 < nos> jsdtoa.c: In function `ulp'
16:49 < nos> and some more errors concerning jsdtoa.c 
16:49 < daja77> which error?
16:49 < nos> and then it stopped...
16:50 < daja77> In function ulp ... what? there must be another line
16:50 < owl> 1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2cmo1;2c1;2cin
16:50 < owl> 1;2c1;2c
16:50 < owl> 1;2c1;2c
16:50 < owl> 1;2c1;2c
16:50 < owl> 1;2c1;2c
16:50 < owl> 1;2c1;2c
16:50 < blindcoder> owl: ?
16:50 < owl> 1;2c1;2c
16:50 < blindcoder> wtf?
16:50 < owl> 1;2c1;21;2c11;2c1;21;2c1;1;2c11;2c1;1;2c1;1;2c1;1;2c11;2c1;2c1;2c1;1;2c1;1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c
16:50 < nos> there are more errors about that
16:51 < nos> all about some uninitialized vars i think
16:51 < daja77> whch???!
16:51 < blindcoder> nos: are you by any chance optimizing for pentium4?
16:51 < nos> yeah y?
16:51 < blindcoder> there's the problem
16:52 < owl> sorry... book. crappy aterm
16:52 < blindcoder> p4 optimization is broken in gcc 3.2.3 at least
16:52 < blindcoder> owl: tststs
16:52 < blindcoder> owl: hi, btw :)
16:52 < nos> mom i'll try without optimization
16:52 < owl> hi blindy
16:52 < blindcoder> nos: use p3
16:52 < owl> nos as in nosferatu?
16:52 < nos> p3 for a p4???
16:52 < nos> won't there be a slowdown?
16:52 < nos> owl> yeah
16:53 < blindcoder> nos: works like a charm here
16:53 * netrunner finally managed to boot his vectorize
16:53 < blindcoder> nos: between p3 and p4 there isn't much difference in speed
16:53 < nos> ok thanx ;)
16:53 < blindcoder> nothing noticable at least
16:53 < netrunner> 3
16:53 < owl> nos: ah. hi. how are you?
16:53 < nos> fine... u?
16:54 < owl> .oO(fsck. am i'm too dumb to use this fscking svn-crap?)
16:54 < owl> alive. thx.
16:54 < nos> owl: is this good or bad?
16:54 < owl> or is the svn-server still/again down?
16:54 < owl> bad
16:55 < blindcoder> nos: considering it's her... good
16:56 < nos> blindcoder: is anyone going to fix the prob with mozilla?
16:56 < owl> blindcoder: *kick*
16:57 < owl> .oO("what a wounderful day - after today. *gnarf* not again monday :-(((((((   )
16:57 < blindcoder> nos: like I said, it's a gcc problem
16:57 < daja77> gcc ppl perhaps
16:57 < blindcoder> nos: you might try gcc 3.3
16:58 < blindcoder> nos: but you have to rebuild at least glibc, after which you should rebuild all your system
16:58 < blindcoder> owl: you're not the only one troubled here
16:58 < owl> blindcoder: ?
16:59 < blindcoder> owl: nothing...
16:59 < owl> yeah. completely sounds so. and might your grandma would believe you
16:59 < nos> blindcoder: thats too much work ;)
16:59 < A-Tui> why the config scripts don't show the games options
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17:00 < owl> <- afk. (breakfast) bbl
17:00 < blindcoder> owl: an guadn
17:00 < owl> thx. 
17:01 < A-Tui> the var ROCK_PKG_GAMES_* is not set
17:03 < nos> blindcoder: is there already a package for dvd ripping and editing in rock?
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17:05 < blindcoder> nos: mencoder
17:05 < blindcoder> nos: part of mplayer
17:06 < nos> gui i guess
17:07 < blindcoder> no, why?
17:07 < nos> i like guis ;(
17:07 < blindcoder> I too, but not for something as easy as this
17:07 < nos> bad hand ....
17:08 < blindcoder> mencoder dvd://1 -o filename -ovc xvid -oac mp3lame
17:08 < blindcoder> and done
17:08 < nos> how about dvd shrinking?
17:08 < blindcoder> basically, there are tons of options for manipulating quality, rezising, etc.
17:08 < blindcoder> dvd shrinking?
17:09 < nos> shrink the vob files...
17:09 < blindcoder> a dvd has the same diameter as a CD, I didn't know you could shrink it
17:09 < nos> not converting them
17:09 < blindcoder> sorry, I have no idea what you're talking about
17:09 < blindcoder> for compressing there's bzip2
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17:09 < nos> if you buy a dvd its mostly dvd-9
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17:10 < blindcoder> I rarely buy dvds... only a single one so far
17:10 < nos> but in my case i want it to fit on a dvd-5
17:10 < blindcoder> ?
17:10 < blindcoder> I really don't know what you're talking about
17:10 < nos> hmmmm 
17:11 < laga_> he wants to convert the contents of a dvd9 so it fits on a dvd5
17:12 < laga_> but, i hope that you know that using decss etc is illegal in germany ;)
17:12 < blindcoder> I never heard the term dvd-9 and dvd-5
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17:12 < daja77> shrug
17:13 < blindcoder> laga_: only if people ask
17:13 < laga_> blindcoder, dvd9 is a double-layer dvd or something. a dvd5 can hold 4,7 gb, a dvd9 9,5 imho
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17:13 < SMP> I wouldn't know how decss could possibly be illegal
17:13 < blindcoder> laga_: I see, one of these glued-together-dvds
17:13 < laga_> blindcoder, lol ;)
17:13 < nos> dvd-9 has 9 GB 
17:13 < nos> dvd-5 has 5GB
17:13 < blindcoder> laga_: it is so. I have taken the freedom of comparing a double-sided dvd to a single-sided one
17:14 < laga_> hmm. maybe it was something like "requantisierung"...
17:14 < nos> dvd-9 is dual layered, dvd-5 single layered
17:14 < blindcoder> laga_: guess what? it was twice as thick and when you applied force to it it broke apart and you still could see the glue on it
17:14 < nos> and current dvd-recorders support only dvd-5
17:14 < laga_> blindcoder, what?!
17:14 < blindcoder> nos: nope, it's 4.3 GB, 4489 MB
17:14 < nos> usually when you get a movie its on a dvd-9
17:15 < blindcoder> laga_: yes.
17:15 < nos> blindcoder: tahts peanuts
17:15 < laga_> strange.
17:15 < laga_> ok, i'm afk
17:15 < blindcoder> nos: I fail to see how a difference of around 17% is peanuts
17:15 < nos> the problem is i want to burn a dvd-9 on dvd-5
17:16 < blindcoder> nos: well, maybe mencoder has some quality-reducing options for that
17:16 < daja77> so you need a codec that reduces the size of the video
17:16 < nos> i'll see
17:16 < nos> i need a codec that reduces the size of a vob file 
17:17 < nos> especially the video information on that file
17:18 < blindcoder> I'd still say that xviD is your friend
17:18 < nos> yeah for dvd--> cd xvid is ok
17:25 < blindcoder> sorry, I really don't get the problem
17:26 < nos> doesn't matter
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17:44 < laga_> blindcoder, he wanted to reduce the content of a dvd 9 so it fits on a dvd 5. it should be playable on a standalone dvdplayer, so he couldnt use xvid
17:45 < blindcoder> hmm
17:45 < blindcoder> ok
17:46 < laga_> do you read the c't? sometimes, there are articles about such things ;)
17:46 < blindcoder> no, I don't like heise
17:47 < blindcoder> at least since the article about the <quote>pthread virus in linux kernel</quote>
17:51 < laga_> ok, sounds hard ;)
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18:54 < rxr> re
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20:11 < freed> hi all
20:11 < rxr> sourceforge cvs:// access does not work currently ?
20:11 < rxr> hi freed 
20:21 < rxr> mnemoc, jsaw, ping ?
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20:39 < rxr> cu
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21:17 < daja77> hi rxr
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21:49 < blindcoder> *yawns*
21:49 < blindcoder> looks like I'l finally be able to get some sleep today
21:50 < daja77> http://www.novell.de/veranstaltungen/
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23:34 < holyolli> moin
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23:38 < cytrinox> gn8
23:43 * A-Tui is away: Nada más nacer comienzan a corrompernos
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