--- Log opened Wed Jan 21 00:00:06 2004
00:00 < rxr> drz: I'm moving away from x86 and have mostly PowerPC and SPARC binaries lying arround ...
00:00 < rxr> daja77: jsaw_: mnemoc: anyone x86 floppies handy ? ;-=
00:00 < rxr> s/=/)/ even ...
00:00 * daja77 should have some
00:01 < jsaw_> sorry, no
00:01 < daja77> rc5 bootdisk, ok?
00:01 < drz> i don't know
00:01 < drz> i'll try anythink that's available
00:01 < drz> 2.0.0-rc5?
00:01 < daja77> yes
00:01 < drz> well that's pretty recent right?
00:02 < daja77> not released rc5 of course
00:02 < daja77> yes, from last week
00:02 < drz> well where can i get them?
00:02 < daja77> mom
00:04 < jsaw_> rxr: I'll rediff the pkginstalled thing when I'm back home (in a few hours) --- me now trying to get some numerical simulations going
00:05 < rxr> jsaw_: sure
00:05 < rxr> jsaw_: I'll just merge this one - which function name to use?
00:05 < rxr> pkg_installed?
00:06 < rxr> is rocklinux.net down?
00:06 < jsaw_> I guess to keep it consistent "pkginstalled" is fine 
00:06 < daja77> no
00:06 < rxr> does not work for me ...
00:07 < rxr> ip is: 213.225.54.156 ?
00:07 < jsaw_> yes
00:07 < jsaw_> fine here also
00:07 < rxr> damn
00:07 < daja77> yep
00:08 < rxr> my last hop is:
00:08 < rxr> pos6-0.mpr2.vie3.at.above.net (209.249.203.30)
00:09 < rxr> hm - how should I apply patches when I can not access Submaster
00:09 < rxr> maybe it is the sign to get sleep ... 
00:09 < jsaw_> yeah, enough patches today for the rest of us to digest... :)
00:10 < drz> daja77: ?
00:10 < rxr> hehe:
00:10 < daja77> drz: http://lospalmos.homelinux.net/rock-boot
00:10 < rxr>  /.:a press release from SCO that details a new lawsuit against Novell for "Slander of Title". It looks like SCO has finally ditched their failing product line in favor of 24/7 litigation and PR work."
00:10 < daja77> have I told you that Novelll is the main sponsor of clt?
00:10 < drz> daja77: thanks
00:11 < rxr> drz: yes
00:11 < drz> clt?
00:11 < rxr> daja77 even ..
00:11 < daja77> k. :)
00:11 < rxr> damn non-inteligent tab completion ...
00:11 < drz> huh?
00:11 < drz> whats clt?
00:11 < daja77> rxr: that easy you just have to press tab again
00:12 < daja77> drz: chemnitzer linuxtag http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag
00:12 < rxr> daja77: yes - but when I notice I already hit enter ...
00:12 < drz> ah cool
00:12 < daja77> :)
00:12 < rxr> hm - www.rocklinux.{net,org} routeable again ..
00:13 < daja77> hmm shutting down bittorrent should help you
00:14 < drz> daja77: do i need all the 6 floppies
00:14 < drz> hmm where am i supposed to put the 4mb initrd?
00:14 < daja77> to be honest, i don't know, haven't dealt with floppies for some time
00:14 < daja77> forget about that
00:15 < drz> oh lol
00:15 < rxr> drz: you need al
00:15 < rxr> drz: you only need the floppy images - no other single files
00:15 < drz> rxr: except the initrd?
00:16 < daja77> forget about initrd
00:16 < jsaw_> rxr: stop watching tv
00:16 < rxr> all is included in the floppy*.img files
00:16 < drz> ok
00:16 < rxr> jsaw_: ?
00:16 < jsaw_> 00:17 < rxr> drz: you need al
00:16 < daja77> don't get the joke
00:16 < jsaw_> bundy 
00:17 < daja77> waah, no, it is mean to remind me of that
00:17 < jsaw_> hehe
00:17 < drz> now i'm confused?!?
00:18 < daja77> ./ignore jsaw_ 
00:18 < drz> yeah ok...
00:18 < jsaw_> drz: me just bubbling, follow daja77's wise words and ignore me (sorry)
00:18 < drz> ok i'll do that...
00:19 < jsaw_> daja77: btw., me condoles myself
00:19 < drz> how long should i expect a base system to compile (without X), on an Athlon 2200+... a few hours (6-8)?
00:20 < daja77> jsaw_: huh?
00:21 < rxr> drz: I hope you do not try to build ROCK from your boot floppies - that will not work
00:22 < drz> rxr: huh... lol... i think!
00:22 < rxr> the floppies can not - and so do not - include all the stuff like binutils gcc and co ..
00:22 < drz> well the system does have a harddrive...
00:22 < daja77> just can't boot from cd?
00:22 < drz> daja77: that's not an option
00:23 < rxr> well he could install some bits via network - too bad we do not have open network install servers .... :-(((
00:24 < daja77> guess that would be no option for your traffic?
00:25 < drz> well couldn't hosting be arranged via ibiblio.org of sourceforge?
00:27 < daja77> well we have server and mirrors for src ...
00:30 < daja77> drz: can you tell me when you finished downloads?
00:30 < drz> i'm downloading the last floppy as we speak
00:31 < daja77> k.
00:31 < daja77> just want to restart bittorrent afterwards to get some more 20c3 videos
00:31 < drz> hehe k
00:31 < daja77> :)
00:36 < esdentem> cu all
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00:37 < rxr> so - I think I have SPAMed people enought for this night ...
00:37 < drz> daja77: done
00:37 < drz> thanks!
00:38 < daja77> np
00:38 < rxr> oops - all time high in svn commit count for yesterday ;-):
00:38 < rxr> http://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/
00:38 < daja77> cool
00:39 < rxr> 45 commits ;-)
00:39 < daja77> hail to rxr
00:40 < rxr> now only KDE needs the version bump and some ALSA fixes and we'll have -rc5 ...
00:40 < jsaw_> rxr: oh and don't forget rockplug (reminder II :)
00:41 < rxr> jsaw_: yeah yeah
00:41 < jsaw_> rxr: hehe
00:42 * daja77 hugs rxr
00:42 * daja77 testing the iimage script
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00:43 < rxr> jsaw_: now pkginstalled is in ...
00:44 < rxr> wahhh! Hot did it got that late ... :-(
00:44 < daja77> just by passing
00:44 < jsaw_> rxr: good, will adapt my pkgs soon...
00:44 < rxr> are you sure it does work the way you typed it?
00:45 < rxr> doing just [ -f ... ] in the function
00:45 < jsaw_> yep, tested with a new package
00:45 < rxr> and then typing pkginstalled && ... in the .conf files?
00:45 < rxr> oh the bash really likes this?
00:46 < daja77> ok n8
00:46 < jsaw_> rxr: pkginstalled xxx && pkginstalled yyy && var_append confopt... worked here
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00:49 < rxr> ouhm - only 1072 packages:
00:49 < rxr> $ ls */*/*.desc | wc -l
00:49 < rxr>    1072
00:49 < rxr> I tought we would be near 2000 ...
00:53 < mnemoc> re:(
00:54 < rxr> ok - n8 all
00:54 < mnemoc> n8 rxr
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04:57 < batok> hi
04:59 < batok> I have a question ,  is anybody out there ?
04:59 < SMP> theoretically yes
05:00 < batok> I have finished to build my first one target, but I need to do something before creating de ISOs
05:01 < SMP> is that a question? ;)
05:01 < batok> The question is ....
05:02 < batok> I have finished to build the bootdisk target and the default ( router ) and want to know if I can group both in a single CD
05:03 < SMP> yes you can - this is recommended
05:04 < batok> ./scripts/Create-ISO myrock1 bootdisk default 
05:04 < batok> Do I get on CD iso file from this ?
05:05 < SMP> you get one if everything fits into one
05:05 < batok> oh, I get it... 
05:05 < batok> tks, SMP
05:06 < SMP> np
05:06 < SMP> uh - wait
05:07 < batok> is there anything else ?
05:07 < SMP> the router target is bootable from CD on its own - you don't need an extra bootdisk target for it
05:08 < SMP> and it probably won't work well to have two bootable targets on a single CD
05:08 < batok> ./scripts/Create-ISO default 
05:08 < batok> is this correct ?
05:09 < batok> oops
05:09 < batok> ./scripts/Create-ISO myfirst1 default 
05:09 < SMP> exactly
05:10 < batok> why the router don't need a bootdisk ?
05:10 < SMP> because it runs directly off the CD - you don't install it on a harddisk
05:11 < SMP> (well, it's possible to install it anyway)
05:11 < batok> oh, its like a live cd ?
05:11 < SMP> yes
05:11 < batok> I didn't know , that's cool
05:12 < batok> tks again SMP
05:13 < SMP> have fun
05:13 < batok> are you a package maintainer ?
05:13 < SMP> yes, I'm in charge of the stefanp repository
05:14 < batok> good
05:15 < batok> are you in Europe ? if so it's late...
05:15 < SMP> or early - depends on how you see it ;)
05:15 < batok> sure
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08:52 < netrunner> damn, now I remembered switching on my build server this morning, I just shut him down by misusing the bash history :(
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10:28 < blindcoder> moin
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10:55 < netrunner> re
10:56 < daja77> moin netrunner 
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10:58 < esdentem> hi all
10:58 < esdentem> ping blindcoder
10:58 < netrunner> hi esdentem 
10:59 < esdentem> hi netrunner
10:59 < esdentem> I will probably be some minutes too late today for rnp
10:59 < netrunner> esdentem: can that lasernot be turned off? it is producing unhealthy amounts of ozone
10:59 < esdentem> but not one hour like last time
10:59 < netrunner> esdentem: that is nothing new :)
10:59 < esdentem> lasernot?
11:01 < netrunner> s/erno/er no/
11:02 < esdentem> which laser do you mean?
11:02 < netrunner> esdentem: in the apeiron room.
11:02 < esdentem> sure it can be turned off
11:02 * esdentem turning it off
11:02 < esdentem> and now?
11:02 * netrunner stroking esden
11:03 < esdentem> urgh *puke*
11:03 < esdentem> thanks netrunner ... now I have to clean up here
11:03 < netrunner> esdentem: now it wont smell that bad any more when I want to learn in the morning :)
11:03 < esdentem> poor boy
11:04 * esdentem is asking himself if christian will arrive today ...
11:05 < esdentem> and /me forgot his cellphone at home >_<
11:05 < esdentem> *GRRR*
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11:06 < Baldzius> moin :)
11:06 < netrunner> have I mentioned that I bought a gps receiver? *dancing*
11:10 < esdentem> netrunner, you are my hero ;)
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11:10 < esdentem> moin Baldzius
11:14 < blindcoder> hi all
11:15 < esdentem> hi blindcoder!
11:15 < esdentem> *hug* ;)
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11:24 < blindcoder> should I get up now or not?
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11:36 < blindcoder> hmm I think I've got this stupid mplayer where I want it
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12:10 < esdentem> blindcoder: ?
12:11 * esdentem note: sometimes writing is no fun ... *sigh*
12:11 < blindcoder> esdentem: mplayer links statically now
12:12 < blindcoder> which means the livesystem for lvp is now almost as functional as before and only 39 MB in size
12:12 < blindcoder> hmm... what could I do for lunch do?
12:13 < blindcoder> s/do\?/today?/
12:14 * blindcoder gone
12:34 * netrunner away
12:38 < cytrinox> moin
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13:24 < fake> hm
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13:26 < fake> Error logs from default-2.0.0-rc5-mips-EB-R4400-generic-expert:
13:26 < fake>  [1]   3 base/linux24                    [5]   2 base/linux24
13:26 < fake>  [5]   0 base/mtools                     [5]   0 base/libdaemon
13:26 < fake>  [5]   0 base/ifplugd                    [5]   3 base/libcap
13:26 < fake>  [5]   0 base/pcmcia-cs                  [5]   0 base/ntfsprogs
13:26 < fake> 245 builds total, 237 completed fine, 8 with errors.
13:26 < fake> (linux26 and nssdb disabled)
13:26 < fake> fine!
13:35 < mnemoc> very nice :)
13:46 < netrunner> linux26 and linux26-src are hanging at conf with 100% cpu load here.
13:47 < daja77> http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/images/dilbert20024398940121.gif
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13:58 < mnemoc> hi th
13:59 < netrunner>  http://www.shortnews.de/shownews.cfm?id=497264
14:01 < netrunner> oh, sorry, german :/
14:02 < daja77> strange
14:03 < netrunner> it's about a guy commiting suizide by attaching a rope to his neck and a lamp on the road. then he sat down into his car and accelerated. that ripped off his head 
14:04 < daja77> the other headlines are wierd as well
14:08 < mnemoc> aaarg!! damn 'svn'
14:09 < daja77> erh hi mnemoc 
14:10 < mnemoc> hi daja77 
14:10 < mnemoc> svn: Commit failed (details follow):
14:10 < mnemoc> svn: Aborting commit: '$foo'  remains in conflict
14:10 < mnemoc> # svn diff
14:11 < mnemoc> # svn diff $foo
14:11 < mnemoc> (nothing)
14:11 < mnemoc> #svn up
14:11 < mnemoc> At revision $x.
14:11 < mnemoc> svn commit $foo
14:11 < mnemoc> svn: Aborting commit: '$foo'  remains in conflict
14:12 < clifford> mnemoc: if you resolved a conflict, you must tell it svn using "svn resolved $foo"
14:12 < mnemoc> =)
14:12 < clifford> otherwise it stais flages as "in cfonlict state"
14:12 < mnemoc> ic
14:13 < daja77> hi clifford
14:14 < owl> moin
14:14 < mnemoc> moin owl 
14:14 < owl> hi mnemoc . how are you?
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14:16 < mnemoc> sleepy :)
14:16 < mnemoc> and you?
14:16 < mnemoc> (hi and thanks! clifford :-)
14:16 < owl> alive. bored like hell. thx. 
14:17 < daja77> clifford: what do you think, do we want to abuse some university machines for rock build?
14:23 < mnemoc> abuse univ. hardware is always a must do
14:24 < daja77> yeah but we would have to build up a sort of ad-hoc cluster to get the whole build done on that weekend
14:30 < Aard> god
14:32 < rolla> re
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14:35 < owl> hi Aardilein!
14:35 < owl> :p
14:36 < daja77> O_o
14:37 < owl> daja77: ? :P
14:37 < owl> schocked about erdferkels and my "begruessung"? :p
14:37 < daja77> erdferkels?
14:39 < esden> owl: begruessung ^= greeting
14:39 < owl> ESDEN!!!! :)))
14:40 < owl> you're alive?
14:40 < esden> OWL!
14:40 < daja77> no esden is only a bot
14:40 < owl> hehe . i believe so, too
14:40 < esden> (multiple use of exclamation marks is a sure sign for a deseased mind) ;-)
14:41 < owl> *hrhr* you're right boy 
14:41 < daja77> hehe this doesn'T count for women, they always have too much of them
14:42 < owl> daja77: *kick*
14:42 < esden> daja77: yes they somewhat talk always in big latters and with multiple interpunctation ;-)
14:42 < daja77> ack, in mails too
14:43 < esden> one feels like in a webchat ;-)
14:43 < daja77> lol
14:43 < esden> with age average around 15 years ;-)
14:44 < esden> congrats owl!
14:44 < owl> thx, thx
14:45 < daja77> hmm thought owl is older 15 1/2 years or so
14:45 * daja77 hides
14:45 * rolla is still waiting for kde 3.2rc1 to finish compiling
14:45 < esden> ahh you are still there, I thought you kicked the kb cable ;-)
14:46 < esden> daja77: phisically perhups ;-)
14:46 < daja77> we now doin kde builds on our cluster now at university
14:46 < daja77> double now, grrr
14:46 * -> esden still waiting for the opteron machine ;-)
14:48 < esden> does anyone know when is linux tag taking place this year?
14:49 < daja77> it was on heise yesterday
14:49 < daja77> iirc
14:49 < daja77> clt is in march ;-)
14:50 < esden> 23. - 26. juni
14:52 * -> esden is asking himself how high should be a bit flip error be so that a file disappears form the harddisk ...
14:53 < owl> .oO(having no education in religion anymore is great :))))
14:53 * -> esden is asking himself how high should be a bit flip error _probability_ be so that a file disappears form the harddisk ...
14:54 < mnemoc> hi esden
14:54 < esden> hi mnemoc 
14:54 < mnemoc> clifford: ping
14:54 < mnemoc> svn: Commit failed (details follow):
14:54 < mnemoc> svn: out of date: 'package/rene/e' in transaction '2d'
14:54 < rxr> re
14:54 < mnemoc> rxr!! :)
14:54 < mnemoc> hi
14:54 < esden> hi rxr
14:54 < rxr> hi mnemoc esden jsaw *
14:54 < rolla> daja77: must be nice
14:55 < owl> hi rxr , rolla , jsaw 
14:55 < mnemoc> rxr: can you help me with that error on 'svn commit'?
14:55 < daja77> rolla: we have a kde dev as student here, will ask him about his progress :)
14:56 < rxr> mnemoc: maybe a svn up helps?
14:56 < rxr> mnemoc: never got this, sorry ...
14:56 < mnemoc> :'(
14:57 < mnemoc> yes! :)
14:57 < esden> daja77: you have indians?
14:57 < daja77> erh why
14:57 < daja77> he is from bonn ...
14:58 < esden> because he is doing work for you ... the student
14:58 < daja77> not for me
14:58 < esden> ahh ok
14:59 < daja77> he is not doin rock kde builds there, just normal kde builds, cvs stuff
14:59 < esden> how lame! :)
15:02 < owl> *yawn*
15:03 < esden> daja77: why don't you convince him to help with kde in rock?
15:03 < daja77> we have a great integration of kde in rock, no?
15:04 < daja77> he works on that groupware stuff, and QTGtk and stuff
15:04 < esden> QTGtk? o_O
15:05 < daja77> gtk integration in qt, so that gtk apps can be easily integrated in kde
15:05 < daja77> look and feel and behaviour
15:05 < daja77> they even hacked openoffice widgetset to work with qt
15:05 < esden> http://freshmeat.net/projects/qtk/?topic_id=851
15:06 < daja77> nah
15:08 < rolla> daja77: it is done :)
15:08 < jsaw> re, hi all
15:10 < mnemoc> hi rolla, jsaw 
15:11 < rolla> hallo mnemoc 
15:12 < jsaw> mnemoc: where can I find a short intro to rsbac?
15:12 < mnemoc> rsbac.org :)
15:13 < mnemoc> btw... i need to update that package
15:13 < jsaw> mnemoc: are u using it regularly?
15:15 < mnemoc> i did
15:15 < mnemoc> on an old project
15:16 < mnemoc> imo it's much better than selinux
15:17 < daja77> esden: http://dot.kde.org/1073668213/
15:18 < rolla> crazy
15:19 < daja77> no cool
15:22 < rolla> I know
15:24 < daja77> ;-)
15:26 < jsaw> some ppl didn't learn their lesson about diversity and wasting time unifying everything - which is most of the not a good idea imo
15:26 < jsaw> s/most of the/most of the time/
15:27 < daja77> what's so bad about that, this is addressing ppl who are not that familiar with computers, ppl who are confused by that diversity
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15:28 < daja77> of course there always be some ppl who think that windowmaker is cool
15:28 < daja77> I am fine with that 
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15:30 < jsaw> I think it adds glue bloat.
15:30 < daja77> cap!
15:30 < capchaos> hey, daja!
15:30 < daja77> jsaw: doesn't matter
15:30 < daja77> gnome gets more and more bloated without  that little patch anyway
15:30 * capchaos got DSL and now d/l'nig ROCK packages :)
15:31 < daja77> hehe
15:31 < jsaw> daja77: I'd prefer those guys to support KDE or gnome instead of sitting between the chairs.
15:31 < rxr> daja77: erhm - I'm just running windowmaker here :-(
15:32 < jsaw> hi rxr.
15:32 < daja77> the smiley tells me that you not think it is cool ;-)
15:32 < jsaw> I'm running e16, xfce, gnome - depending on computing power...
15:32 < rxr> hi jsaw 
15:33 * daja77 hopes that kde 3.2 comes soon, need it faster
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15:33 < holyolli> moin
15:34 < capchaos> Windowmaker is hot, not cool, daja :) too bad they're rewriting lots of it so the next release keeps off near future.
15:34 < capchaos> Moin, Olli
15:34 < holyolli> hi capchaos
15:34 < daja77> it is ugly and confusing ...
15:34 < holyolli> huhu daja77
15:35 < daja77> hi holyolli 
15:35 < capchaos> daja77, why that?
15:35 < daja77> dunno why, didn't wrote it
15:36 < jsaw> funny, those discussion always end up with personal taste...
15:36 < capchaos> So you're talking about the code? Yes it is.. :/
15:36 < daja77> jsaw: sure
15:36 < capchaos> jsaw, that's what it all aims to isn't it? :)
15:37 < daja77> anyway back to studienarbeit, so that i can code some rock related stuff later
15:37 < SMP> why the hell does it take kwin almost one second to draw the window decoration when foregrounding a konsole window that has been running for 9 days (as long as kwin)?!
15:38 < jsaw> daja77, capchaos: ...
15:38 < SMP> this is incredible crap
15:38 < jsaw> SMP: ask X
15:38 < SMP> it's almost instant for new windows ...
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15:39 < jsaw> SMP: I know. That's why I say, "ask X".
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15:41 < esden> cu all
15:44 < mnemoc> jsaw: rsbac update ok :)
15:45 * netrunner just noticed that his bootsplash patch vanished. :(
15:54 < mnemoc> jsaw: sm get 2004012115263511893
16:03 < jsaw> mnemoc: thanks
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16:56 < mnemoc> *yawn*
16:57 * daja77 slaps mnemoc 
16:57 < mnemoc> ehm... that wasn't necesary :\
16:58 < daja77> it was :p
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17:01 < mnemoc> :(
17:02 < daja77> :))
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17:18 < jsaw> bbl
17:24 < rxr> jsaw: cu
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17:45 < netrunner> argl, my weird build freeze kame from tempfs to small ;)
17:45 * netrunner needs more ram
17:47 * mnemoc has a hardware limit of 512M :(
17:48 * netrunner has a budget limit of 30EUR
17:49 < netrunner> mnemoc: almost the same :)
17:49 < mnemoc> :)
17:50 < netrunner> rxr: bg offered a remote login on his opteron box for developement.
17:53 < mnemoc> remember him the 'root account' need
17:53 < mnemoc> :-)
17:54 < netrunner> that one comes as a gift ;)
18:26 < netrunner> argl, machr=1686 :(
18:28 < mnemoc> 1?
18:29 < netrunner> yes :) ... but the error message was weird
18:29 * netrunner hopes it runs now through.
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19:16 < rxr> deos anyone use mozilla and wan't to update it to 1.6.0 in ROCK ?
19:17 < daja77> you mean creating the patch`
19:17 < daja77> ?
19:18 < rxr> jups - test, patch and the galeon epihany care ...
19:19 < daja77> maybe later that week
19:20 < daja77> <- busy atm :-(
19:23 * netrunner has a build running ... maybe I plug it right in.
19:24 < daja77> cool
19:24 < mnemoc> what about {fire,thunder}bird packages?
19:25 < rxr> mnemoc: go for it ...
19:25 < mnemoc> :(
19:26 < mnemoc> echo {fire,thunder}bird packages >> ~amery/TODO
19:26 < rxr> if you do not need them give them a very low priority ...
19:26 < rxr> mnemoc: btw echo "" > TODO helps a lot ...
19:27 < mnemoc> echo "" > TODO <--- ic.. u like to truncate your TODO ;-)
19:28 < rxr> echo -n is even better ...
19:28 < mnemoc> rxr: i don't... i use links and mutt ... but they are a good thing to have ;)
19:28 < mnemoc> lol
19:28 < rxr> mnemoc: the bad thing is that the last time I took a look those two beasts
19:29 < rxr> include the whole mozilla code - took ages to build and wasted nearly as much CPU cycles during the build and bits after the build as mozilla itself ...
19:30 < mnemoc> oh
19:31 < rxr> maybe they cleaned up up in the last months ...
19:31 < rxr> and the worst was: it did not even start (on PowerPC ...)
19:33 < mnemoc> :o
19:34 < rxr> cu
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19:36 < mnemoc> cu rxr
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20:29 < esdentem> hi all
20:33 < netrunner> hi tempinski
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20:57 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
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21:01 < rxr> re
21:01 < rxr> rehi blindcoder 
21:01 < mnemoc> hi rxr, bc
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21:12 < netrunner> anybody can tell me why, while I have "Insert: -march=i686", I have later "-march=i386" during build?
21:19 < rxr> netrunner: that is easy
21:19 < rxr> netrunner: because in the log you see what the package builds scripts / Makefile do and log
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21:20 < rxr> this does not reflect what gcc gets - our GCC_WRAPPER is in between
21:20 < rxr> netrunner: take a look into the logs head - you'll see a GCC_WRAPPER test in the beginning and can verify which options get modified and finally into gcc ...
21:20 < blindcoder> heh, I have encountered much weirder problems :)
21:21 < blindcoder> target/lvp_boot/parse-config does var_append confopt " " "--enable-static" for package mplayer
21:21 < blindcoder> but once mplayer.conf is called this confopt just vanishes
21:21 < rxr> blindcoder: jups - might be a mplayer specific problem - it's .conf removes all opts
21:22 < blindcoder> I have modified mplayer.conf to use var_append confopt instead of confopt=, but to no avail
21:22 < rxr> yesterday I cleaned that a bit - but it still resets the opts ...
21:22 < blindcoder> I now just created target/lvp_boot/mplayer.conf and hope that that works
21:22 < blindcoder> have to still test that
21:23 < blindcoder> after that works, I almost can release the next LVP with a radically decreased live-system size :)
21:26 < rxr> from MB to MB ?
21:26 < blindcoder> from 230 MB to 40MB
21:26 < blindcoder> I can still shrink that with one trick or another, so it will be around 30 MB I think
21:27 < rxr> oh fat is movix ?
21:27 < blindcoder> hmm... it takes a CD by itself I think, but has tons of options more
21:28 < netrunner> movix comes in sizes of cd, cf, floppy iirc
21:28 < rxr> floppy ?
21:30 < rxr> blindcoder: do not forget a eye-candy homepage and menue for peoples attraction ...
21:31 < blindcoder> the menu will be the problem... I'm programmer, not a designer... but it should be possible to create some template-textures with gimp and imagemagick's convert
21:32 < netrunner> rxr: emovix=mikro, movix=minicd, movix^2=maxi(includes X)
21:32 < blindcoder> libgli has some built-ins already to create some animation, so that should be okay, but will require a partial rewrite of the lvp program
21:33 < netrunner> k3b can use emovix to create bootable self playing video cds.
21:34 < rxr> interesting ...
21:38 * netrunner created webalizer package. built, tested, works
21:38 < blindcoder> netrunner: does the DNS lookup code work?
21:39 < blindcoder> that's always been a patch-the-makefile-manually thing for me
21:39 < netrunner> blindcoder: not out of the box, I also just noticed that that config option was reported unknown.
21:40 < blindcoder> well, have you found a way around that?
21:41 < netrunner> blindcoder: starting ... I created the package because I found an year old stats on my /var/www ;)
21:41 < blindcoder> heh
21:43 < netrunner> blindcoder: INSTALL says I only need to configure --enable-dns ... isn't that working?
21:44 < blindcoder> with a standard and working bdb 1.85 compat header... yes
21:44 < blindcoder> need I say anything more?
21:49 < rxr> blindcoder: yes!?
21:49 < daja77> lol
21:49 < rxr> and why does DNS resolving depend on a bdb ...
21:49 < rxr> anyway - i'm off again - shortly ...
21:49 < blindcoder> rxr: becaes the data is cached in a bdb file
21:50 < blindcoder> and configure seems to be unable to either find the .h file or the linker fails
21:50 < blindcoder> anyway, simply enabling DNS using -DUSE_DNS and adding -ldb maybe with a -L works just fine her
21:51 < blindcoder> e
21:51 < netrunner> blindcoder: found what you mentioned ... 
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22:26 < netrunner> blindcoder: it seems to be a quite common problem that a db compiled with the compat doesn't show the dbopen ... what options exactly do you use?
22:30 < netrunner> hm, tomorrow. n8 
22:55 < mnemoc> any dyndns client currently on rock?
22:57 < jsaw> ezipupdate, ddclient
22:57 < jsaw> rehi btw
22:57 < mnemoc> hi jsaw! ;)
23:14 < mnemoc> eeer... jsaw: how do i give the hostname to ddclient?
23:15 < jsaw> mnemoc: sorry... no idea
23:15 < mnemoc> :(
23:15 < daja77> vi /etc/ddclient.conf 
23:15 < daja77> iirc
23:16 < mnemoc> yes, but...
23:16 < mnemoc> i can set server, login, password, protocol, but... the hostname?
23:17 < jsaw> see ddclient --help
23:18 < daja77>  server=members.dyndns.org,             \
23:18 < daja77>  protocol=dyndns2                       \
23:18 < daja77>  lospalmos.homelinux.net
23:18 < mnemoc> just that?
23:18 < daja77> yep
23:18 < mnemoc> i couldn't convince myself :)
23:18 < daja77> login and password of course
23:20 < mnemoc> wow.. it works :)
23:21 < daja77> :)
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23:42 < holyolli> n8 blindcoder
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