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--- Log opened Thu Jan 22 00:00:20 2004 00:07 * holyolli also goes to bed now...cya 00:07 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-30-76.reverse.qsc.de] has quit ("Leaving") 00:08 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@p213.54.120.71.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit ("There is no spoon.") 00:10 * daja77 off too 00:15 < rxr> re 00:25 < rxr> whoho - a linux24 32bit SPARC kernel: 00:25 < rxr> == 01/21/04 23:18:22 =[5]=> Finished building package linux24. 00:25 < rxr> going to try it on my SS2 tomorrow (I hope ...) 00:25 < rxr> cu - n8 all 00:34 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9E1CD27.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 00:37 < mnemoc> re 00:44 -!- Lorini [~Lorini@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has joined #rocklinux 00:51 -!- Netsplit niven.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: esdentem_ 00:52 -!- Netsplit over, joins: esdentem_ 00:53 -!- Lorini [~Lorini@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has left #rocklinux ("Angels are bright still, though the brightest fell.") 01:03 -!- MadTux [~mike@196.40.10.250] has joined #rocklinux 01:03 < MadTux> hello 01:11 < mnemoc> wb MadTux 01:13 < mnemoc> where have you been? 01:15 < MadTux> hello Ale :) 01:16 < MadTux> I've been working.. _ALOT_ 01:16 < MadTux> didn't though anyone would notice i wasn't here. 01:20 < mnemoc> everybody asked for you 01:20 < MadTux> 0_o 01:20 < MadTux> everybody?!?! Who is everybody?? 01:22 < mnemoc> lemme grep 01:23 < mnemoc> holydoly, rolla and daja 01:23 < MadTux> lol 01:23 < MadTux> nice 01:25 < mnemoc> <daja77> only knows he was mike1 again before he left ^^ 01:25 < MadTux> lol 01:25 < MadTux> ah well I'm still alive 01:26 < MadTux> just VERY _VERY_ __V_E_R_Y__ busy 01:27 < mnemoc> and VERY _VERY_ __V_E_R_Y__ ich 01:27 < mnemoc> rich* 01:27 < mnemoc> :) 01:30 < MadTux> I don't know about that. 01:30 < MadTux> I'm still poor :/ 01:36 -!- mistik1 [wlan_misti@ool-44c02046.dyn.optonline.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 01:48 -!- MadTux [~mike@196.40.10.250] has left #rocklinux ("Leaving") 01:50 -!- mistik1 [mistik1@2001:618:400:0:0:0:44c0:2046] has joined #rocklinux 02:25 -!- puzzled [~patrick@puzzled.xs4all.nl] has quit ("Leaving") 02:39 -!- alanjwylie [~Alan@frogadsl-gw.adsl.legend.co.uk] has joined #rocklinux 02:44 < mnemoc> hi alan 02:56 -!- alanw [~Alan@frogadsl-gw.adsl.legend.co.uk] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03:23 -!- batok [~chatzilla@200.77.1.183] has joined #rocklinux 03:25 < mnemoc> wb batok 03:25 < batok> hi 03:26 < mnemoc> how is your router? 03:26 < batok> good 03:26 < batok> 7Mb 03:29 < mnemoc> good. do u understand rock better now? 03:29 < batok> thats for sure mnemoc 03:30 < batok> I think the only way to understand this model is to experiment with it 03:30 < mnemoc> hope to see you contributing soon :) 03:33 < mnemoc> don't hide :\ 03:33 < batok> of course not 03:35 < batok> Don't you think (we rock-ies , let me be part of the crew ) need a blog to publish news often ? i.e. deadly.org for openbsd people 03:36 < mnemoc> may be a blog, may be a wiki, but we *need* to improve our comunication and PR 03:36 < mnemoc> we can www.rocklinux.net but it's not interactive 03:37 < batok> who's in charge of PR ? 03:37 < mnemoc> /dev/null :( 03:37 < batok> wow 03:38 < mnemoc> sadly we are a very small comunity where every body is too busy and if we are lucky we have time for developing :( PR is a ghost 03:39 < mnemoc> we *need* more people, but without PR it's really hard to get them 03:39 < mnemoc> and loop 03:40 < mnemoc> someone set a phorum, but.... my dna don't let me use phorums 03:40 < batok> why ? 03:41 < mnemoc> too much navigation 03:41 < batok> what's the best channel to interact besides this one ? 03:42 < batok> newsgroup, maling list, blog ? 03:42 < mnemoc> currently we have 2.5 channels 03:42 < mnemoc> ML + IRC + submaster (under development) 03:43 < batok> what is the submaster ? 03:43 < mnemoc> it's a web app to admin patches 03:44 < mnemoc> https://www.rocklinux.org/submaster.html 03:44 < mnemoc> ehm.... rl.org seems to be dead 03:44 < batok> ok, I got it, is an extension to subversion 03:44 < mnemoc> yep 03:44 < batok> rl.org never changes! 03:45 < batok> Is Clifford the maintainer of the site ? 03:45 < mnemoc> well... somehow yes 03:46 < mnemoc> https://rlforum.org/ <--- forum 03:47 < batok> What's the meaning of the name ( rock ) and logo ? 03:48 < batok> rock like music or so ? 03:48 < batok> rocky mountains ? 03:49 < mnemoc> mountains 03:50 < batok> May be this is old topic but never found an explanation in the site 03:51 < mnemoc> not old... we have another ghost with us, the project rename ghost 03:51 < batok> ghost is better I think 03:51 < mnemoc> ROCK*linux* sound like a distro, and ROCK it's a toolkit and not a distro 03:52 < batok> with a better design and may be a slogan 03:52 < mnemoc> ghost as a name? 03:52 < batok> yes 03:52 < batok> everything but excluding linux as a name 03:53 < mnemoc> openrock.org is taken so the rename will be harder 03:53 < batok> rockit 03:54 < batok> as doing it with rock, or with a toolkit 03:54 < mnemoc> are domains available for it? 03:55 < batok> let me see 03:56 < batok> is not available as org 03:59 < batok> I think words like Open and Free are over used in projects 04:00 < mnemoc> think/test a name and propose it to the ML :-) 04:01 < batok> I will 04:01 < mnemoc> the master $name must be available at least for .org 04:02 < batok> It has to be rock something ? 04:02 < mnemoc> i guess it's good to keep the most representative part of the current name 04:02 < mnemoc> but it's not mandatory 04:03 < mnemoc> we have our *small* place in the un*x world, and imo it's silly to drop it 04:04 < mnemoc> but i'm not a marketing expert ;) 04:04 < batok> What kind of un*x user knows about RL nowadays ? 04:04 < batok> BSDers ? 04:05 < mnemoc> ehm... 04:05 < mnemoc> hard question 04:06 < mnemoc> how did *you* got here? 04:07 < batok> I don't remember but it was not easy. I thing one day was searching for another approach for a distro in linuxiso.org or something like that, but never in magazines, places like slashdot, etc 04:09 < mnemoc> ehm... College Linux, Lycoris, TSL, turbolinux and Yellow Dog are more popular than us in linuxiso.org :'( 04:11 < mnemoc> we need to do something... but what?... i don't know 04:11 < mnemoc> releasing damn 2.0 stable is a must, but i don't think it's enough 04:12 < batok> Interviews published , articles , a revamped portal 04:15 < mnemoc> none of us is good doing that... and we suck in english and design 04:15 < mnemoc> (at least me) 04:16 < mnemoc> did you knew the previous rl.org? 04:17 < batok> what previous rl.org ? 04:18 < mnemoc> the 'old' portal? 04:18 < batok> I never heard about it 04:19 < mnemoc> it was 'best viewed with lynx' :\ 04:20 < mnemoc> current site have less than one year old 04:20 < batok> Do you like it ? 04:21 < mnemoc> it's much better than previous, but it's not ok 04:23 < batok> It can be more eye-candy and most import have new things to show, like news or something 04:26 < mnemoc> i like the idea of a wiki to increase update rate 04:26 < batok> wiki is good 04:26 < mnemoc> i guess only clifford and rene has write access (typo3) 04:27 < mnemoc> one hard part is that clifford wants a site 100% mirrorable via rsync 04:27 < batok> why ? 04:29 < mnemoc> ehm... "to not impose restrictions to mirror servers" 04:31 < mnemoc> even php was 'not desired' 04:31 < batok> then what , perl ? 04:32 < batok> C ? 04:32 < mnemoc> or something that renders static html on updates 04:32 < mnemoc> typo3 does that 04:33 < mnemoc> and i guess that's why it was choosen by cliff 04:34 < mnemoc> but imo a 'users-portal' don't need to follow official rules set by the chairman for the main site 04:34 < batok> for a wiki or blog or anything portal related there's a need for dynamic content, rdbms, and web scripting 04:35 < batok> I think I have experience with Postnuke CMS ( lamp ) and now I am beginning to use Zope/CMS/Plone for client 04:36 -!- cytrinox [~dj-nail@p213.54.199.58.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:39 < mnemoc> we did discuss this topic for looong months, then cliff replaced old site with typo3 and the discussion stoped 04:39 < batok> I 've never head about typo3 , what's that ? 04:40 < mnemoc> https://typo3.org/ 04:40 < mnemoc> i guess noone did until it was choosen 04:41 -!- cytrinox [~dj-nail@p213.54.241.169.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 04:42 < batok> yet another CMS as I see 04:44 < mnemoc> but you can rsync .html files 04:44 < batok> as I see it uses PHP also 04:46 < mnemoc> the argument was always the 'restrictions on the mirrors' 04:47 < batok> and what kind of content the mirrors receive ? 04:47 < mnemoc> html 04:48 < mnemoc> https://www.rocklinux.net/typo3/typo3/index.php <--- 'real' site 04:48 < mnemoc> i mean... https://www.rocklinux.net/typo3/ 04:49 < batok> I really don't undestand the case for a CMS in here 04:50 < mnemoc> previous site was generated from shell using sed 04:50 < batok> really ? 04:50 < mnemoc> yep 04:51 < batok> amazing 04:51 < mnemoc> edit=rsync, vi, sed, rsync 04:52 < mnemoc> CMS was a *big* improve 04:52 < batok> I see 04:55 < batok> mnemoc let me think on these PR issues and I will post to ML my ideas. I got to go now to install an SMP Server with RH9 ( oops ) for a customer right now. See you soon! 04:56 < batok> good bye 04:56 < mnemoc> bye :) 04:56 -!- batok [~chatzilla@200.77.1.183] has left #rocklinux () 05:49 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-129.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:57 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-079-164.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 06:04 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-233.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 06:27 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-129.arcor-ip.net] has quit (No route to host) 06:48 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-059-187.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 07:06 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-059-199.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 07:10 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-233.arcor-ip.net] has quit (No route to host) 07:14 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-059-187.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Operation timed out) 07:19 < netrunner> 875 builds total, 377 completed fine, 59 with errors. All the gnome stuff is failing since gnome-mime-data is not yet built. 07:21 < owl> moin 07:22 -!- Netsplit niven.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: mistik1 07:22 -!- Netsplit over, joins: mistik1 07:40 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-059-091.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 07:56 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-059-199.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 08:50 -!- k3t_ [k3t@pD9005740.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:50 -!- esdentem [~esdentem@131.159.22.78] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08:50 -!- esdentem_ [~esdentem@131.159.22.78] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08:52 -!- kandinski [~kandinski@62-151-131-227.tp24.ya.com] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:00 -!- kandinski [~kandinski@62.151.131.227] has joined #rocklinux 09:07 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD90056DD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:08 < netrunner> re 09:13 < owl> hi netrunner 09:21 < netrunner> hi owl 09:31 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-072-004.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:46 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-059-091.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:53 < netrunner> hm, the rebuild stage is not activated, but 9- stuff is added to the queue ? 10:02 < clifford> netrunner: do you see the stage 9's actived in config/.../packages ? 10:03 -!- puzzled [~patrick@puzzled.xs4all.nl] has joined #rocklinux 10:05 < netrunner> *cry* usr/src/linux-2.6.1-rock/scripts/.fixdep.cmd: alsa-driver linux26-src 10:05 < netrunner> clifford: nope. 10:06 < clifford> hmm... funny. 10:06 < netrunner> grmpf. usr: 00-dirtree linux24-header 10:06 < netrunner> clifford: nope ;) 10:07 < blindcoder> moin 10:07 < clifford> rene schould re-create the dammit dependency database with my directory patch.. 10:08 < netrunner> clifford: it is the .caches, not the db 10:09 < netrunner> clifford: ah, your patch affects the db? sorry! then I can recreate it myself, no? 10:10 < clifford> oh - so maybe rene recreated the cache files and forgott to recrate the db? 10:11 < clifford> my patch affects the collection of dependencies during the build 10:13 < netrunner> clifford: the dep_db seens to be created from the latest .caches, it is 3 revisions older. 10:13 < netrunner> s/older/newer/ 10:14 < clifford> so - how can be something in the cache files and not in the db? 10:15 < netrunner> are dependent packages removed from the shared files list normally? 10:16 * netrunner createing a new dep_db to see if it differs. 10:17 < clifford> usually there are only additions based on the dependency groups. 10:24 < netrunner> hm, my new dep_db differs in all lines. Since I didn't change the .caches, it should be the same as rene's ... 10:24 < netrunner> maybe your patch got merged after that. 10:25 * netrunner away for lecture 10:25 < clifford> but my patch only affects the creation of the *.cache files, not the *.cache->dep.db thing. 10:35 < rxr> re 10:35 < rxr> hi clifford 10:36 < blindcoder> moin rxr 10:39 < clifford> hi rxr, did you read the last lines about dep db? 10:40 < rxr> yes - I did nothing special - just the .cache files from the ref build and created the deb_db.txtr 10:40 < rxr> I did not other manual editing or so 10:41 < clifford> hm. so the question is: why did netrunners re-run of dep-db result in an entirely different file? 10:44 < rxr> duno 10:44 < clifford> could you re-run Create-DepDB on your side and see if it prints an entirely different file for you too? 10:44 < rxr> clifford: I need a tftp server and notice our tftp package could be updated from 0.34 to 0.36 - any objections? 10:44 < clifford> sounds ok. 10:45 < rxr> clifford: running DepDB now ... 10:57 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-072-004.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:59 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-079-196.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:00 < clifford> Arrrg! Patchutils bug!!!! 11:00 < blindcoder> clifford: hoeh? 11:00 < rxr> clifford: hm - my new dep_db.txt does not differ a line ... 11:01 < rxr> me away ... 11:06 < blindcoder> wee, LVP Live-System is 26 MB and as functional as befor ^_^ 11:11 < puzzled> rxr: in case you haven't figured out how to make the bootable cdrom for PowerPC, here is hopefully a helpfull url 11:11 < puzzled> rxr: https://lists.linuxppc.org/linuxppc-workstation/200302/msg00003.html 11:21 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@p50802509.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 11:38 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p50802B3C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:42 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-052-248.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:02 -!- veninga [~veninga@cherokee.cs.utwente.nl] has joined #rocklinux 12:03 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-079-196.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12:05 -!- veninga [~veninga@cherokee.cs.utwente.nl] has left #rocklinux ("Leaving") 12:06 -!- jvc [~jvc@cherokee.cs.utwente.nl] has joined #rocklinux 12:19 < mnemoc> blindcoder: how kind of things are u doing to reduce lvp's size? 12:19 < blindcoder> mnemoc: linking statically 12:20 < blindcoder> mnemoc: in addition I want to gzexe the binaries, but the gzexe script from gzip is just a huge pile of shit 12:20 < mnemoc> oh 12:20 < blindcoder> mnemoc: so I'll have to write my own implementation of it to compress the binaries 12:20 < mnemoc> what about lz? 12:21 < blindcoder> lz? 12:21 < mnemoc> for *dos* lzexe was a pretty nice implementation 12:21 < mnemoc> i guess it's ported 12:22 < owl> hi blindcoder , mnemoc 12:23 < blindcoder> moin owl 12:23 < blindcoder> lz seems to be a tar wrapper... 12:25 < blindcoder> I thought of a bash script that does what gzexe does, but without depending on tail, sed and other crap 12:26 < mnemoc> ehm... i had lzo on my repo o_O (it was needed by openvpn) 12:26 < mnemoc> he had UPX 12:26 < blindcoder> mnemoc: oh, I have only a minimal installation here with a few additions, so I'll have a look 12:27 < mnemoc> https://upx.sourceforge.net/ <--- upx by lzo author 12:27 < mnemoc> how small do u want it to be? 12:28 < blindcoder> small enough to completely fit into initrd 12:30 < blindcoder> mnemoc: looks nice 12:38 < mnemoc> bbl 12:38 < owl> bye mnemoc 12:38 < blindcoder> bye 12:42 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-107.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:54 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-052-248.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12:54 < jsaw> re 12:54 < jsaw> hi all 12:55 < blindcoder> moin jsaw 12:55 < jsaw> tach blindcoder 12:57 < owl> hi jsaw 12:58 < jsaw> hi owl 12:59 -!- kandinski [~kandinski@62.151.131.227] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12:59 -!- jsaw_ [~jsaw@pD9506B78.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:00 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@pD9506988.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 13:00 -!- Spike [~Spike@p508076FC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:01 -!- jsaw_ is now known as jsaw 13:01 < jsaw> damn 24h dsl connection time limit... 13:02 < blindcoder> hehe, yeah 13:02 < Spike> hello @all 13:04 < blindcoder> moin Spike 13:04 < jsaw> me thinks of resting potential and says hello to Spike (for those who don't know, both terms are heavily used in biology, nerve signalling) 13:05 < jsaw> blindcoder: self executable bash script: I think this could work: 13:06 < Spike> does anyone know why ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg glib doesn't install glib-config? 13:06 < blindcoder> Spike: is pkg-config installed? 13:06 < Spike> yes 13:06 < blindcoder> then I don't know 13:06 < jsaw> blindcoder: cat $self | ( while read l; do [ "$l" = "..." ] && break; done; cat ) | tar... 13:07 < blindcoder> yes, I had something like that in mind 13:07 < blindcoder> but I'll try that upx thing first 13:08 < jsaw> blindcoder: do you have grep? 13:08 < blindcoder> yes 13:08 < blindcoder> but I wanted to only use bash and gzip for it 13:09 < jsaw> grep -A <huge number> self | ( read ) | tar ... 13:09 < jsaw> s/read/read; cat;/ 13:10 < jsaw> oh, and s/grep/grep <mark>/ of course 13:10 < blindcoder> hmm 13:12 < jsaw> blindcoder: I do this with rockplug to extract data from pci.ids, but dunno if it works with binary ... 13:12 < blindcoder> I more thought of something like 'printme=0; cat $0 | while read l ; do if [ "$l" == "somekindofterminator" ] ; printme=1; fi ; if [ $printme -eq 1 ]; echo $l ; fi ; done | gzip -dc >/tmp/`basename $0` ; exec /tmp/`basename $0` 13:13 < fake> clifford: ping 13:14 < fake> Spike: glib12 13:14 < fake> Spike glib = gnome2's glib, wich uses gconf 13:14 < fake> Spike: glib12 = glib-config - containing 1.x-gtk-compatible version. 13:15 < jsaw> blindcoder: that slow and binary may confuse read. That's why I have "( while read l; do ... done; cat )" 13:16 < blindcoder> I see 13:16 < jsaw> blindcoder: cat $0 | ( while read l; do [ "$l" == "somkindofterminator" ] && break; done; cat ) | gzip -dc >/tmp/`basename $0` ; etc... 13:16 < blindcoder> mhm... thanks, will give that a try 13:23 < netrunne1> clifford: the dep difference is because of the third column being different with all packages. 13:24 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 13:24 < fake> blindcoder: https://fake.by-infonet.de/ ... 13:25 < fake> blindcoder: that's it, i'm out. 13:25 < Spike> fake: to install glib doesn't help :( i have no glib-config 13:26 < jsaw> Spike: as fake said, you have to install "glib12" to get glib-config! 13:27 < fake> Spike: /opt/gnome/bin/glib-config 13:27 < fake> you *may* have to source /etc/profile again 13:27 < fake> so opt/gnome/bin is in your path, if the directory just got created 13:28 < fake> (simply completely logout and login again) 13:28 < Spike> sorry i meant glib12 13:28 < Spike> and i have found glib-config 13:28 < Spike> thanx 13:28 < Spike> :) 13:30 < jsaw> Spike: sorry for my "reprimand" (accroding to dict.leo.org), fake got it right immediately... 13:30 < daja77> moin 13:30 < jsaw> hi daja77 13:32 < daja77> hey jsaw 13:35 < clifford> hi gang. 13:35 < daja77> :) 13:35 < fake> clifford: i can't apply your last patch? 13:35 < blindcoder> /usr/src/trunk/src.glibc23.1074774548.9236.1698210811/glibc-2.3.2/objdir/config.h:3:3: #error "glibc cannot be compiled without optimization" 13:35 < blindcoder> GRAAAAAAH 13:36 < blindcoder> fake: fixed 13:36 < clifford> blindcoder: use my patch that doesn't apply... ;-) 13:36 < daja77> must have missed sth 13:36 < blindcoder> clifford: which patch? 13:36 < rxr> lol 13:36 < fake> clifford: what is the state of the smart optimixation? is it still slower than size-opt? what was the cause? 13:36 -!- kandinski [~kandinski@62.151.131.227] has joined #rocklinux 13:37 < clifford> fake: my latest patch is almost the finished thing - I just need to rebuild it first so it's clean.. 13:37 < clifford> (I had some problems with patchutils ;-) 13:37 < fake> np ;) 13:37 < fake> how came your 'interesting' results? 13:38 < clifford> in my tests, smart optimisation is always the slowest thing and bizarr optimisation the fastest... ;-) 13:38 < netrunner> what do I need to own a domain myself? a dns with a fixed IP for that domain? 13:39 < fake> clifford: you mixed up the optimizations? 13:40 < clifford> bizarr optimisation = optimize the c-files which do contain inner loops for size and all the rest for speed. 13:40 < clifford> this is - well - very bizarr... ;-) 13:40 < rxr> netrunner: not necessarily a fixed IP - but a dynamic IP has the usual restrictions ... 13:40 < rxr> netrunner: see www.rocklinux-consulting.de ... 13:40 < rxr> or www.falk-huebner.de 13:45 < mnemoc> re 13:45 < fake> this is indeed bizarre 13:45 < rxr> cool cool - yeah - finally, we made it into the frontpage left menu at: 13:45 < netrunner> rxr: ok, that's a feature of your provider, no? you need to update the names in some dns server ... 13:45 < rxr> https://www.penguinppc.org/ 13:45 < rxr> netrunner: nope the DNS is hosted by Tobias Hintze 13:46 < rxr> we update using a tiny IP exchanged he already had arround 13:46 < rxr> exchanger even ... 13:47 < netrunner> rxr: thx, maybe he takes mine too :) 13:47 * netrunner wants to leave current provider and 5G limit behind 13:48 < mnemoc> how much cost a dsl there? 13:49 < netrunner> mnemoc: 15EUR for inet + 8EUR for the dsl is minimum I guess 13:50 < mnemoc> what's the EUR:US factor? 13:50 -!- esdentem [~esdentem@lain.informatik.tu-muenchen.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:50 < mnemoc> hi esdentem 13:50 -!- esdentem_ [~esdentem@lain.informatik.tu-muenchen.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:51 < fake> rxr: cool! 13:51 < netrunner> mnemoc: about 1USD=0,7EUR 13:52 -!- elon [~afgh@zwelf.in-dsl.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:52 < mnemoc> ehm... i pay about 90EUR for my 512/128 dsl :( 13:53 < jsaw> ups 13:54 < mnemoc> but we don't have time/bandwidth limits :) 13:55 < jsaw> about 30EUR dsl (flat) here 13:55 < jsaw> 768/256 IIRC 13:55 < mnemoc> :'( 13:56 < blindcoder> 30 EUR 768/128 13:56 < jsaw> ah, thanks. 13:56 < daja77> depends on the provider 13:56 < daja77> arcor is a bit cheaper afaik 13:56 < blindcoder> pink panther provider :) 13:57 < jsaw> blindcoder: yep 13:58 < jsaw> mnemoc: interesting in a neg. sense. I always thought, 30EUR is expensive... 13:58 < mnemoc> good for you :( 13:59 < mnemoc> i have a _cheap_ plan here :\ 14:01 -!- esdentem [~esdentem@lain.informatik.tu-muenchen.de] has quit ("Leaving") 14:01 < mnemoc> two years ago i had to pay the same money for isdn 14:01 -!- esdentem [~esdentem@lain.informatik.tu-muenchen.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:02 < esdentem> hi all 14:02 < blindcoder> moin esdentem 14:02 < esdentem> hi blindcoder! *hug* ;) 14:03 < mnemoc> moin third-try-esden 14:03 -!- k3t_ is now known as trekkie3k 14:05 < mnemoc> daja77: remember my ld 'problem' yesterday? export LD_RUN_PATH=$foo solved it 14:05 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-107.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 14:06 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-072-147.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:07 < esdentem> third try??? 14:08 < mnemoc> three join in ten minutes :) three greetings in ten minutes :( 14:11 * blindcoder gone 14:12 -!- esdentem_ [~esdentem@lain.informatik.tu-muenchen.de] has quit ("Leaving") 14:13 < esdentem> ohh ... 14:13 < esdentem> sorry 14:13 < esdentem> hmm 14:13 < esdentem> somehow strange ... ;) 14:15 < jsaw> fake: please use your full name on submaster (I already got a kick from rene) 14:20 < daja77> mnemoc: ah 14:20 < fake> jsaw: fake is my full name 14:21 < mnemoc> :) 14:22 < daja77> full name is fake this 14:24 < jsaw> bbl 14:25 < clifford> Updated submaster client: improved "sm fsync" and new command "sm diff". 14:30 < mnemoc> wow rev. 20 :) 14:31 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-30-76.reverse.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:31 < holyolli> moin 14:31 < mnemoc> moin holyolli 14:32 < holyolli> hola mnemoc. ?como estas? 14:32 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD9005740.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("ze ûda brí-tenkoR") 14:33 < daja77> hmm found no patch from clifford on the ml ... 14:33 < holyolli> hi daja77 14:35 < daja77> hi holyolli 14:35 < mnemoc> super bien y tu? 14:37 < holyolli> mnemoc: la escuela esta fuerta (?...school's out ;-) 14:39 < clifford> ok. cleaned-up patch is online. 14:39 < holyolli> y me estoy muy bien 14:39 < holyolli> .oO(omg...spanish for wannabe's... =) 14:39 < mnemoc> o_O 14:40 < mnemoc> i'm trying to decript what you said :\ 14:40 < holyolli> hehe 14:40 * holyolli tries to learn some spanish, when he's visiting madtux 14:41 < mnemoc> if school is what's before univ. it's called 'colegio' here 14:41 < daja77> clifford: where 14:41 < clifford> daja77: on submaster. where else should it be? 14:42 < holyolli> mnemoc: hm. it's a school for a later job 14:42 * daja77 confused, patch for submaster or rocklinux 14:42 < mnemoc> that's an 'instituto', like univ. but shorter 14:42 < holyolli> ah 14:42 < holyolli> ok 14:43 < rxr> re 14:43 < clifford> daja77: this patch: https://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/smadm.cgi?i=2004012214120105829 14:43 < daja77> thx 14:43 < holyolli> hi rxr 14:43 < daja77> btw could we clean up flyspray a bit 14:43 < mnemoc> if you are asking if i'm on 'holydays', '¿terminaron las clases?' 14:44 < rolla> re 14:44 < mnemoc> and if you are asking if i finish the carrer, '¿saliste del $foo?' 14:44 < holyolli> <-- is learning everyday a lot on this channel :) 14:45 < daja77> hi rolla 14:46 < rolla> hallo daja77 14:46 * fake implemented a site navigation in awk ;) 14:47 < cytrinox> moin 14:47 < daja77> clifford: erh this is no p1 patch :( 14:48 < rxr> daja77: sm patches are -p0 .... 14:48 < daja77> ah k. 14:48 < fake> clifford: i fixed a (i guess) typo in typo3 / submaster page yesterday 14:48 < clifford> fake: www.clifford.at/priv/4gewinnt.awk ;-) 14:48 < daja77> applied anyway 14:48 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-072-147.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 14:48 < daja77> rxr: is there a special reason for that switch? 14:48 < fake> clifford: you said to save the server.txt in rock.sm/SM/rock.sm/SM/ 14:48 < fake> clifford: i made thaht rock.sm/SM 14:49 < fake> clifford: i hope that is o.k. 14:49 < fake> clifford: you are bizarre. 14:49 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-072-130.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:49 < daja77> :) 14:49 < clifford> daja77: yup. from the PATCHES file: Patches created with 'cvs diff' or 'svn diff' and simmilar are also ok, 14:49 < clifford> as long as they are context diffs and can be applied with the the 14:49 < clifford> misc/archive/apply-patch.sh script. 14:50 < clifford> fake: yup. that sounds right. ;-) 14:50 < daja77> ok i was just wondering, cos everybody wanted to have p1 patches so far :) 14:50 < clifford> (rock.sm/SM as well as the bizarre thing ;-) 14:51 * netrunner has not yet successfully run submaster. 14:51 < clifford> daja77: for manually created patches, yes. 14:51 -!- jvc [~jvc@cherokee.cs.utwente.nl] has quit ("Leaving") 14:51 < clifford> netrunner: I thing you would like it. 14:53 * daja77 just throwing away last rt build and go for a restart 14:53 < daja77> clifford: do you have a minute? 14:53 < mnemoc> daja77: ehm? 14:53 < clifford> yes - in a minute.. ;-) 14:54 < netrunner> clifford: it fails. Can't get current revision number for svn://svn2.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-linux/trunk. 14:54 < daja77> k. I am waiting 14:55 < daja77> mnemoc: ? 14:55 < netrunner> oh, the subversion I built last week is 0.32.1 :/ 14:55 < daja77> O_o 14:56 < daja77> current is 0.36 or greater iirc 14:57 < netrunner> daja77: at least 0.35, but I thought my tree were updated. haven't checked the version after building and cursed on sm ;) 14:57 < clifford> daja77: ok. 15:01 * fake getting coffee 15:04 -!- Spike [~Spike@p508076FC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Verlassend") 15:16 < netrunner> ah, I remember. my build machine (with svn 0.35) said Berkeley DB error while creating environment for filesystem /usr/src/rock.sm/SVN/db: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery 16:30 * blindcoder back 16:31 -!- kandinski [~kandinski@62.151.131.227] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 16:38 -!- kandinski [~kandinski@62-151-131-227.tp24.ya.com] has joined #rocklinux 16:39 < daja77> aaargh 16:39 < rolla> ? 16:39 < daja77> had the command for starting the build in the commandline hours ago, forgot to press enter ... 16:39 < daja77> done now :( 16:41 < rolla> :( 16:42 < blindcoder> daja77: forget building right now. glibc23 complains about being compiled without optimizations again 16:42 < daja77> with default settings, or special? 16:43 < blindcoder> default 16:44 < blindcoder> I tried without any optimisation and with pentium mmx optimisation 16:44 < blindcoder> both times it complains in stage 1 16:44 < daja77> :( 16:45 < blindcoder> :( indeed, I can't test my new LVP now ._< 16:45 < daja77> i had such errors when i started with rock in march 2003 16:46 < mnemoc> i don't have that problem with 2270 16:47 < daja77> we'll if I have that problem .. 16:47 < daja77> we'll see even 16:48 < blindcoder> daja77: yeah... I have them since I updated to 2270 today 16:48 * mnemoc starting a new clean build 16:49 < daja77> :) 16:49 < mnemoc> OMG!!! sm diff does a new checkout! o_O 16:49 < daja77> O_o 16:50 < blindcoder> okay, new GPG key created... now have to tell the people about it... 16:52 < rxr> re 16:52 < blindcoder> moin rxr 16:53 < rxr> blindcoder: most probably a issue in combination with Clifford optimization modifications ... 16:55 < rolla> hmm svn up does not work :( 16:56 < rolla> svn: Working copy 'architecture' not locked 16:56 < daja77> svn cleanup? 16:57 < rolla> svn update 16:58 < rolla> I will just have to checkout another copy I guess 16:58 < daja77> i wanted you to try svn cleanup before doing svn up 16:58 < rolla> okay I can do that 16:58 < mnemoc> svn help 16:58 < rolla> :-P 17:00 < blindcoder> rxr: do you have the rev number here? 17:03 -!- kasc [kasc@dsl-213-023-063-083.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:03 < blindcoder> kuso... I just bought these trousers two months ago... and they becme too big already >_< 17:04 < daja77> grmpf nobody checks for invite msg today 17:04 < blindcoder> invite msg? 17:04 < daja77> yes 17:04 < blindcoder> ? 17:04 < rolla> daja77: is Update-Src still to be used? 17:05 < blindcoder> rolla: afaik not... not yet at least 17:05 < mnemoc> it was patched to skip "Not Installed" pacakges 17:06 < rolla> that is what broke svn then for me 17:06 < blindcoder> you mean Update-System 17:06 < mnemoc> ehmm... Update-System :\ 17:06 < mnemoc> yes :( 17:06 < mnemoc> laaaaag 17:08 -!- kasc [kasc@dsl-082-082-218-209.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:09 < daja77> https://www.rocklinux.net/eventreg/eventreg.cgi?event=1074779736 17:11 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-079-057.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:18 < mnemoc> oh... daja will not be at clt :( 17:22 < daja77> sure, i just don't need to drive there :D 17:24 < mnemoc> will u host ppl? 17:25 < daja77> yep 17:29 < blindcoder> hmm... I can't find the changes rxr mentioned 17:32 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-072-130.arcor-ip.net] has quit (No route to host) 17:32 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-053-001.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:42 < mnemoc> blindcoder: i just finish 1-linux24 of a new 2270 build 17:43 -!- mistik1 [mistik1@2001:618:400:0:0:0:44c0:2046] has quit (Ping timeout: 14400 seconds) 17:50 < netrunner> those shared files are killing me. 17:50 < blindcoder> that's why I build without paranoia :) 17:52 < blindcoder> mnemoc: how is glibc coming along? 17:53 < netrunner> blindcoder: that's not a solution, that's closing your eyes 17:53 < blindcoder> netrunner: Works For Me (TM) 17:53 < blindcoder> and since I mostly build LVP's at the moment, I also don't care much 17:53 < blindcoder> I think I haven't made a Paraoia enabled Build sinco 18C3 17:54 < blindcoder> well... maybe one or two... 17:54 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-079-057.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 17:57 < rolla> == 10:50:41 =[0]=> Building base/binutils [2.14.90.0.7 2.0.0-rc5]. 17:57 < rolla> and we start again 17:58 < blindcoder> hmm.. maybe... 17:58 * blindcoder changing some dietlibc things 18:15 * blindcoder gone 18:20 < daja77> netrunner: watch your status window 18:24 < netrunner> daja77: ? 18:24 < netrunner> ah ;) 18:25 * netrunner is alone :/ 18:26 < daja77> hm? 18:26 < daja77> haven't seen you joining ... 18:32 < rolla> cd /win4 18:32 * daja77 off now 18:32 < daja77> cu 18:39 < netrunner> daja77: /me lags to much for you ;) 18:39 < netrunner> cu daja77 19:18 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-072.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:41 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-053-001.arcor-ip.net] has quit (No route to host) 19:50 -!- esdentem [~esdentem@lain.informatik.tu-muenchen.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 19:55 -!- aktnot [ident@233.80-202-65.nextgentel.com] has joined #rocklinux 19:55 -!- aktnot [ident@233.80-202-65.nextgentel.com] has quit (Client Quit) 19:55 -!- aktnot [ident@233.80-202-65.nextgentel.com] has joined #rocklinux 19:55 -!- aktnot [ident@233.80-202-65.nextgentel.com] has quit (Client Quit) 20:04 < daja77> netrunner: doesn't matter 20:05 < rolla> aweet 20:08 -!- kandinski is now known as kandinski_away 20:08 < daja77> hm? 20:16 < netrunner> what a stupid default, binding "space" to "open window menu" 20:17 < daja77> ugh? 20:18 < netrunner> daja77: the date seems ok, I put a note into my schedule. I will probably come. 20:19 < daja77> tell me when you know for sure, so that i can add you to the db 20:20 < netrunner> daja77: one week before? ;) put me in, I'll tell you if something is against it. 20:21 < daja77> well i can put you in right now, and just saying shit happens, if you can't come ... 20:21 < netrunner> what db are you talking of btw? 20:22 < daja77> clt internal database :) 20:24 * blindcoder back 20:25 < mnemoc> blindcoder: stage 5 :-) 20:25 < mnemoc> (re) 20:25 < blindcoder> hmmm... strange 20:26 -!- cytrinox [~dj-nail@p213.54.241.169.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit ("Client exiting") 20:26 < blindcoder> I'll try without dietlibc now 20:26 < netrunner> daja77: you may add me if you like :) 20:27 < daja77> k. :) 20:32 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-073-067.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:40 < mnemoc> blindcoder: did you apply clifford's optimization patch? 20:41 < daja77> cu later 20:41 < mnemoc> cu daja77 20:43 < rolla> == 13:39:01 =[5]=> Building base/linux24 [2.4.24 2.0.0-rc5]. 20:43 < rolla> :) 20:52 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-077-072.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:53 < mnemoc> how renders .am files? 20:53 < mnemoc> generate, or whatever 20:54 < rxr> hehe: 20:54 < rxr> https://www.gavinroy.com/~gavinr/SCO Response.pdf 20:54 < mnemoc> rxr! :) 20:55 < mnemoc> what should i do to turn a .am into .in? 20:55 < rxr> automake 20:57 < mnemoc> automake: `configure.ac' or `configure.in' is required 20:57 < mnemoc> :\ 21:00 < mnemoc> can i use configure.in from the parent dir? 21:01 < mnemoc> aha!! 21:01 < mnemoc> SUBDIRS is not set in parent dir :) 21:02 < blindcoder> failed again... 21:02 < blindcoder> mnemoc: which? noone's told me which patch he's talking about 21:03 < mnemoc> a patch on submaster 21:03 < mnemoc> but, if you don't know it you couldn't apply it :) 21:03 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD958FBF4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:04 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958F0AD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Nick collision from services.) 21:04 < blindcod1r> mnemoc: which? noone's told me which patch he's talking about 21:04 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 21:05 -!- cytrinox [~dj-nail@p213.54.241.169.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:05 < blindcoder> and it seems noone will do so this time either 21:06 < mnemoc> but, if you don't know it you couldn't apply it :) 21:06 < mnemoc> a patch on submaster 21:07 < blindcoder> but it might fix my problem 21:07 < blindcoder> ah, I see 21:07 < mnemoc> 2004012214120105829 <--- new optimization thing 21:07 < mnemoc> but i'm not using it and building ok 21:08 < blindcoder> I'm not using submaster, because it is overkill for the few things I'm changing 21:08 < blindcoder> that's strange... could you send me your config? 21:08 < blindcoder> 2117 built fine for me >_< 21:09 < mnemoc> try with a generic/minimal 21:09 < mnemoc> my target is too non-standard 21:09 < mnemoc> but i can i you really want 21:09 < blindcoder> well, lvp is way off, too 21:13 < mnemoc> btw, even if you don't use sm.pl, you should 'visit' submaster to see the pending patches 21:13 * netrunner manually reschedules all gtk stuff that failed because gtk+ was built so late 21:22 < mnemoc> there is an script to do that 21:25 < netrunner> mnemoc: you mean the newdelete thing? 21:25 < netrunner> who knows the reason for the "glib is not installed (in prefix usr)!" problem? 21:26 < netrunner> wonderful. googling for that message brings exactly my mail to rlml ;) 21:28 < mnemoc> netrunner: you can use -remove $pkg1 $pkg2 $pkg3 to delete the log and remove the files 21:28 < netrunner> mnemoc: ah, ok, next time. was only the logs anyway since they aborted. 21:31 < mnemoc> in that case you can you (nesxt time) -delete 21:31 < mnemoc> s/you/use/2 21:41 < rxr> blindcoder: btw, you still have the electrical content of you SPARC IPX? 21:41 < blindcoder> most of it, yes 21:41 < blindcoder> missing the hard disk and PSU, of course :) 21:41 < rxr> if you do not need the board, CPU and such stuff I'm happy to dispose it for you ... 21:42 < blindcoder> sure, I can send that to you 21:43 < rolla> anyone here heard of cheops-ng? 21:44 < netrunner> rolla: building a new pyramid? 21:44 < rxr> blindcoder: if you are at some fair in the next month we can exchange it there and sage the cost 21:44 < rxr> daja77: our talk at LT is canceled? 21:45 < rolla> netrunner: https://cheops-ng.sourceforge.net/ 21:46 < blindcoder> I don't have time for any shows at this time, I will stuff it in a nice DHL pack. 21:46 < rxr> blindcoder: oki - thanks! 21:46 < blindcoder> no problem 21:46 < mnemoc> aaarg... damn automake 21:47 < mnemoc> it still skips that subdir 21:57 < mnemoc> does anything limit the deepness on automake recursion? 22:01 -!- MadTux [~mike@216.162.42.111] has joined #rocklinux 22:01 < MadTux> Greetings. 22:04 < holyolli> madtux!!!!! :))))))) 22:04 < holyolli> MadTux: nice to see you! 22:04 < blindcoder> MadTux!! Ohisashiburi! 22:05 < MadTux> alcoholly!! thanks same to you 22:05 < MadTux> Ohisashiburi blindy-san 22:07 < blindcoder> how' life over there? 22:12 < blindcoder> busy it seems :) 22:12 < MadTux> yeah as usual 22:13 < MadTux> actuall i gtg now, i will come come back later 22:13 < blindcoder> ok 22:13 < blindcoder> bye! 22:13 -!- MadTux [~mike@216.162.42.111] has quit ("leaving") 22:16 < rxr> cu 22:18 < mnemoc> BusyTux!! why did u honor us with your presence? 22:18 < mnemoc> cu rxr 22:18 < mnemoc> gone :( 22:39 < holyolli> n8 22:39 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-30-76.reverse.qsc.de] has quit ("Leaving") 22:41 -!- CyBuX [~CyBuX@conm200-58-198-52.epm.net.co] has joined #rocklinux 22:46 -!- CyBuX [~CyBuX@conm200-58-198-52.epm.net.co] has quit ("Leaving") 22:53 -!- mistik1 [wlan_misti@ool-44c02046.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:54 -!- mistik1 [wlan_misti@ool-44c02046.dyn.optonline.net] has quit (Client Quit) 22:54 -!- mistik1 [mistik1@2001:618:400:0:0:0:44c0:2046] has joined #rocklinux 23:25 < daja77> re 23:25 < daja77> rxr: yes :( 23:25 < mnemoc> wb daja77 23:25 < mnemoc> daja77: why? 23:26 < daja77> we got 78 submissions for 52 slots 23:26 < mnemoc> hm? 23:26 < daja77> they even kicked out a netbsd talk 23:28 < daja77> really strange this time 23:28 < blindcoder> well, clt will be quite stuffed :) 23:29 < daja77> it is really amazing, we had 40 submission one week before deadline, and 78 a week later 23:29 < daja77> blindcoder: indeed i guess we will top the 1800 visitors of last year 23:30 < daja77> rxr: you could still work on the images you told me about, i'd like the idea of having a great presentation 23:30 < daja77> + we can have our talk there as well 23:35 < mnemoc> will we have the promised poster? ;( 23:35 < mnemoc> ;) (fix) 23:38 < rxr> rehi btw 23:38 < rxr> I can not sleep .. 23:38 < daja77> :( 23:39 < netrunner> hi rxr 23:40 < rxr> just increased the package count by 4 23:40 < netrunner> daja77: I got your point with the db, they already closed the registration! 23:40 < daja77> but clifford got his submaster talk 23:41 < daja77> netrunner: doesn't matter i have some write access to it :) 23:41 < netrunner> daja77: so please :) 23:41 < netrunner> rxr: need some more? I have 29 here in avm/ and I bet not all of them are in the official tree :) 23:42 < rxr> netrunner: do they all compile and so on? 23:44 < netrunner> almost. But I wanted to review them for $root usage. 23:44 < rxr> what really bugs me is that I do not find the AUI s.th. network adapter for my Sparc Station - ... 23:44 < blindcoder> rxr: I can send some of those along 23:44 < blindcoder> have a bunch of them here 23:45 < blindcoder> RJ45 or Coax? 23:45 < rxr> if you have to many ... - I only need one - and it must be somewhere around my desk ... had it in my hands some days ago ... ;-) 23:45 < SMP> clifford: something for you: "SEDForth is a Forth compiler written as a SED script. It converts Forth code into subroutine threaded assembly language and Linux console applications." ;-) 23:45 < rxr> normally RJ45 - do you found some SPARC dump or so ? 23:45 < daja77> waaah! 23:46 < blindcoder> rxr: not found one... am one :) 23:47 < blindcoder> I just collected tons of stuff... through the local buergernetz, at siemens, at IS4IT... there was always something to get 23:47 < netrunner> hm, 15 packages build fine (at least I have .log for them) 23:48 < netrunner> rxr: I just also tested the bdb41 patch I sent. you can review them if you are bored :) 23:50 < netrunner> ah, cool, now I know where the perl-xml-parser had gone ;) 23:53 < rxr> netrunner: you mean has been before ? ;-) 23:53 < daja77> https://fun.from.hell.pl/00-ROCZNIK-2001/2001-02-15/mp3.jpg 23:54 < daja77> rxr: watch your status window ;-) 23:54 < rxr> ;-) 23:55 < netrunner> rxr: I missed it in my current build and created it as a new package on the fly while fixing all my errors :) 23:55 < daja77> so you join? 23:56 < blindcoder> fun.from.hell.pl ... heh --- Log closed Fri Jan 23 00:00:34 2004