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--- Log opened Sun Jan 25 00:00:03 2004 00:09 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAA9C7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:13 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAA9C7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 00:37 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-072-059.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 00:42 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-072-059.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:41 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-30-76.reverse.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 01:42 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-30-76.reverse.qsc.de] has quit (Client Quit) 01:56 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-240.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 02:14 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M372P008.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 02:15 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-072-059.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 02:31 -!- nookie [~nookie@M492P021.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03:13 -!- mnemoc_ [~amery@200.75.27.17] has joined #rocklinux 03:14 < mnemoc_> re :-) 03:42 -!- elon [~afgh@zwelf.in-dsl.de] has quit ("regenerating") 03:51 -!- mnemoc_ [~amery@200.75.27.17] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04:15 -!- mnemoc_ [~amery@200.75.27.17] has joined #rocklinux 04:15 < mnemoc_> *yawn* 04:21 -!- bluefire [bluefire@p508176E8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 04:46 -!- Tony_Ham_____ [~chatzilla@203.215.68.151] has joined #rocklinux 04:46 -!- Tony_Ham_____ [~chatzilla@203.215.68.151] has left #rocklinux () 04:55 -!- cytrinox` [~dj-nail@p213.54.247.178.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 05:02 -!- cytrinox` [~dj-nail@p213.54.232.116.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 05:06 -!- mnemoc_ [~amery@200.75.27.17] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:51 -!- jani [~jani@ppp147-52.lns1.mel2.internode.on.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:37 < netrunner> hehe, that dietlibc thing takes 9sec to compile :) 08:37 * netrunner restarting build (don't build pkg if dep failed is a baad idea if you disable linux26) 08:56 -!- scoopexH [~marc@td9091a10.adsl.terralink.de] has joined #rocklinux 10:10 < blindcoder> moin 10:14 -!- nookie [~nookie@M506P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 10:22 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M372P008.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 10:40 -!- jani [~jani@ppp147-52.lns1.mel2.internode.on.net] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:41 -!- jani [~jani@ppp147-52.lns1.mel2.internode.on.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:48 -!- scoopexH [~marc@td9091a10.adsl.terralink.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 11:02 -!- scoopexH [~marc@td9091bf1.adsl.terralink.de] has joined #rocklinux 11:19 < blindcoder> GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH 11:19 < blindcoder> mnemoc: diffutils was missing in my target, that's why the rock scripts just sat there... 11:32 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@p5080235F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 11:37 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p50802EEC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:51 -!- nookie [~nookie@M506P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("Lost terminal") 12:07 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 12:08 < netrunner> ./scripts/Build-Pkg: line 105: .: ./scripts/functions: file is too large 12:09 < blindcoder> oehm 12:10 < netrunner> and my build server just decided to reboot. weird. 12:10 < blindcoder> this seems to happen more frequently atm... daja had the same already 12:10 < blindcoder> (the reboot thing) 12:11 < netrunner> hm, just noticed it did not reboot, but killed the X. 12:11 < netrunner> but since he does not react to syscalls, I reboot now. 12:11 < blindcoder> if X was running at 5AM then it's normal 12:12 < netrunner> why? 12:12 < blindcoder> /etc/cron.d/20-logrotate 12:12 < netrunner> didn't happen before. 12:12 < blindcoder> XFree86.0.log is >4MB and 20-logrotate HUPs the X-Server 12:13 < netrunner> not nice. 12:13 < blindcoder> well, I already noted that ages ago 12:13 < blindcoder> around the time I started working with ROCK 12:13 < blindcoder> noone cared back then 12:15 < netrunner> blindcoder: since X only rebooted now I do not think that was the cause. anyway, it's not nice to hup my x server ;) 12:22 < blindcoder> I patched my logrotate to contain the following line: 12:22 < blindcoder> if [ $kilobytes -gt 4096 -a "$filename" != "/var/log/XFree86.0.log" -a "$filename" != "/var/log/wtmp" ] ; then 12:24 < netrunner> hm, after the error before is thrown, my build server acts scary :( 12:24 < blindcoder> my machine only acted strange when rootfs was full some days ago... 12:24 < blindcoder> no more /var/log/messages for example 12:25 < netrunner> ah, now I know, thousands of bash processes like 17240 pts/1 S 0:00 bash scripts/xfind.sh config/epia/. package/. scripts 12:25 < blindcoder> ARGh 12:26 < blindcoder> xfind *runs* 12:27 < netrunner> what is that? 12:27 < blindcoder> a script from ROCK which uses cmp from diffutils and is needed in Build-Tools and just fucking sits there doing nothing at all when diffutils is not in your target 12:28 < blindcoder> that cost me all yesterday to figure out 12:31 * blindcoder --> lunch 12:40 < netrunner> ps axf | grep -e cat -e xfind.sh | awk '{FS=" "; print $1;}' | xargs kill 12:40 < netrunner> now silence ;) 12:41 < owl> moin 12:41 < netrunner> hi owl 12:41 < owl> hi netrunner 12:45 -!- mnemoc_ [~amery@200.75.27.17] has joined #rocklinux 12:46 < mnemoc_> moin 12:48 < owl> hi mnemoc_ 12:51 < mnemoc_> hi owl 12:52 < netrunner> moin mnemoc_ 12:53 < netrunner> mnemoc_: can you tell me why I get thousands of xfind spawns in my build? 12:55 < mnemoc_> hm? i thought only blindcoder has that problem 12:56 < netrunner> mnemoc_: you mentioned that pkg_linux24{,-src,-header}.conf are sourced from inside linux24 package? so maybe I really created a loop there ... 12:56 -!- jani [~jani@ppp147-52.lns1.mel2.internode.on.net] has quit ("Leaving") 12:57 < netrunner> mnemoc_: do I need to source the $pkg.conf from my custom pkg_$pkg.conf ? 13:00 < mnemoc_> netrunner: yep 13:00 < netrunner> ok, so it's not me who loops there. 13:03 < mnemoc_> welll the source is in th eoposite direction of what i understood you did: 13:03 < mnemoc_> $targetdir/pkg_linux24-src.conf 13:03 < mnemoc_> . $base/package/base/linux24.conf 13:03 < mnemoc_> errr 13:04 < mnemoc_> $targetdir/pkg_linux24-src.conf 13:04 < mnemoc_> . $targetdir/pkg_linux24.conf 13:05 < mnemoc_> and $targetdir/pkg_linux24.conf 13:05 < mnemoc_> var_append patchfiles ' ' $targetdir/pkg_linux24.diff 13:05 < mnemoc_> . $base/package/base/linux24/linux24.conf 13:05 < mnemoc_> take care to call the patch .diff to not get it duplicated on $pkg=linux24 13:06 < mnemoc_> brb 13:07 < netrunner> hm ok. 13:10 < blindcoder> back 13:12 < owl> https://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/bo-24.01.04-000/ <- OUCH 13:12 < owl> moin blindy 13:13 < blindcoder> moin owl 13:30 < netrunner> it's the call to Build-Pkg 2-binutils that freaks out. 13:30 < blindcoder> netrunner: do you have diffutils in your target? 13:30 < daja77> moin 13:30 < blindcoder> moin daja77 13:30 < netrunner> blindcoder: jup. 13:30 < daja77> moin 13:31 < daja77> blindcoder: the reboot was due power fail 13:31 < netrunner> hi daja77 13:31 < daja77> hi netti 13:32 < blindcoder> netrunner: then I also don't know... 13:37 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD95223D7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:44 < cytrinox`> moin 13:47 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-072-077.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:47 < netrunner> hm, I must have destroyed something in Build-Pkg with my experiments yesterday. 13:48 < netrunner> damn that svn.rocklinux-consulting.de is not reachable since yesterday :( 13:48 < blindcoder> use svn2 13:49 -!- mnemoc_ [~amery@200.75.27.17] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13:49 < netrunner> can I update from another server? 13:50 < blindcoder> sure 13:50 * netrunner trying svn switch --relocate 13:54 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-40-95.reverse.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:55 < rxr> re 13:55 < rxr> damn ex-girlfirend unplugged the DSL modem somewhen yesterday ... :-( 13:55 < rxr> damn strange people in this world - *grummel* 13:55 < rxr> at leat I'll sign my for the new flat tomorrow ... ;-)! 13:56 < daja77> good luck 13:57 < rxr> is svn.rock-... now reachable from the outside again? 14:02 < blindcoder> well, that's a strange error from xfree... 14:03 < blindcoder> /usr/include/bits/mathcalls.h:179: declaration of `float ceilf(float) throw ()' 14:03 < blindcoder> throws different exceptions 14:04 < rxr> blindcoder: never saw this - but I buess two different headers are included which only differ in the exception specification ... 14:04 < blindcoder> yes, one is from xfree mymath.h and one is from the glibc libm 14:04 < blindcoder> I just don't know what caused this... 14:05 < blindcoder> haven't had that before I shrunk LVP's package list 14:05 < rxr> blindcoder: maybe misdetection whether the system libm does work or so ... 14:08 < blindcoder> yes, looks like that... 14:08 < netrunner> *ieek* -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 562949953421312 Jan 21 11:58 scripts/functions 14:09 < netrunner> could it be that I better should build this target on the very computer it is thought for? 14:10 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-240.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Connection timed out) 14:10 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-078-169.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:11 < blindcoder> netrunner: wtf have you done? 14:12 < netrunner> blindcoder: uhm, nothing? 8) 14:13 < netrunner> blindcoder: removed the cmov from gcc. created a target. started it. 14:13 < blindcoder> cmov? 14:14 < daja77> grrr /me on windows 14:14 < rxr> what is the content of script/functions 14:14 < rxr> maybe a simple build system instability / corruption? 14:14 < blindcoder> rxr: found it, seems like it either can't detect linux or can't detect the libc version 14:14 < netrunner> mom, phone 14:17 < netrunner> ok, the ls shows for everything 562949953421312 as size. (in the new root) 14:20 < netrunner> maybe my athlon mp misses some instructions from i686? 14:21 < rxr> no - it shouldn't 14:21 < rxr> maybe a tiny memory corruption? 14:23 < netrunner> rxr: I do not want to hear that. basta :) 14:23 < rxr> try a reboot ... 14:23 < rxr> only the bind mounted files are affected - the orignial dir which comes from the FileSystem is ok ? 14:24 < netrunner> rxr: yes, it's only inside the build/ . the files themselves are ok, but seem to compute sizes wrong. (mktemp also says Value too large for defined data type) 14:24 < rxr> oehm - reboot and retry ? 14:25 < netrunner> rxr: reboot and rebuild? 14:26 < rxr> not a full rebuild - just try one of the failed packages for a test ... 14:26 < netrunner> rxr: none yet failed. haven't left stage 1 though. error occurs when chrooting, since those binaries miscompute. 14:27 < rxr> btw are the errors only inside the chroot environment - and the files have the correct size when not stat'ed with a chroot binary? 14:27 < netrunner> yes. 14:27 < rxr> only in chroot? 14:28 < netrunner> rxr: no, just running them shows wrong sizes, eg build/epiablubb/root/bin/ls -l shows wrong, while (host)/bin/ls -l does 14:28 < netrunner> show correct 14:29 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-072-077.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:29 < rxr> hm - but you athlon has all i686 instructions - and if not it woudl throw SIG_ILL .. 14:29 < rxr> netrunner: you need to look deeper into it - e.g. compare what the system calls return (via strace) and see what is done wrong 14:30 < netrunner> rxr: what I did was to follow the hints in https://epia.std-err.de/gcc.php by creating patches for the gcc's and modifying architecture/x86/gcc-options. 14:31 < rxr> netrunner: I know and this should work on your athlon 14:31 < rxr> so lib or gcc must have a problem somwhere 14:33 < rxr> 353085 bytes dietlibc-0.23-0.24.diff 14:33 < netrunner> lstat reports correct size. 14:33 < rxr> how can soo much change between two minor versions of a diet libc .. :-( 14:33 * rxr shortly away 14:33 -!- jsaw_ [~jsaw@p3EE1E22A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:36 -!- mnemoc_ [~amery@200.75.27.17] has joined #rocklinux 14:36 < rxr> hi jsaw_ mnemoc_ 14:37 < mnemoc_> hi rxr 14:37 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@p3EE1E204.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 14:38 < mnemoc_> netrunner: i mistake in what i wrote you.... pkg_linux24.conf has to source $pkg/$pkg.conf instead of static thing... sorry 14:38 < netrunner> mnemoc_: np, I didn't take you linebyline ;) 14:39 < mnemoc_> :) 14:39 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-078-169.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 14:39 < mnemoc_> blindcoder: why did you download ucl twice? 14:40 < mnemoc_> s/did/do/ 14:40 -!- elon [~afgh@zwelf.in-dsl.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:44 -!- batok [~chatzilla@200.52.197.185] has joined #rocklinux 14:45 < rxr> so - but now I take a bath - cu 14:45 < rxr> in some minutes 14:45 < rxr> mnemoc_: btw - I'll track the dietlibc regressions after the bath and meal ... 14:48 < mnemoc_> good luck rxr :) 14:48 < mnemoc_> wb batok 14:48 < netrunner> hm ... meal ... *rubbingstomach* 14:48 < netrunner> is there a chance that I can run the binaries correctly on the target system? 14:48 < batok> hi 14:49 < netrunner> but only because I removed one instruction it should still run correct on my one ... 14:49 < blindcoder> mnemoc_: because upx needs the ucl source to compile and the ucl static library to link 14:50 < mnemoc_> but you can untar it from ucl's download 14:50 < blindcoder> mnemoc_: so either I compile and install ucl in upx package or create a separate packgae 14:51 < blindcoder> that would be possible but if you installed ucl already and don't have the download/blindcoder/ucl/* files anymore, this would fail and be harder to trace 14:51 < mnemoc_> hm... ok 14:57 -!- kandinski is now known as kandinski_lunch 15:00 < mnemoc_> btw, ithink you can build upx without a custmain, ... 15:00 < mnemoc_> to untar you can do it without the pipe using tar $taropt $file, 15:00 < mnemoc_> setting srcdir to "upx-$ver/src", etc... 15:00 < mnemoc_> custmain are evil ;-) 15:02 < mnemoc_> brb 15:02 -!- mnemoc_ [~amery@200.75.27.17] has left #rocklinux () 15:02 < blindcoder> I prefer the way of least resistance 15:06 -!- mnemoc_ [~amery@200.75.27.17] has joined #rocklinux 15:06 < netrunner> hm, the patching has not really worked anyway, 10 files contain cmov instruction after stage 1. 15:07 < mnemoc_> hm? 15:07 < blindcoder> mnemoc_: I prefer the way of least resistance 15:07 < netrunner> or was that the host gcc? from which stage on is the new built gcc used? 15:07 < blindcoder> what's that cmov anyway? 15:07 < netrunner> blindcoder: conditional move 15:07 < blindcoder> and why don't you want it? 15:08 < netrunner> blindcoder: an optional instruction for i686, missing in c3 ezra. but gcc code does not check as it should if it is supported and just calls it. 15:08 < netrunner> blindcoder: if I want optimal code vor my c3, then I need to compile for i686, but without cmov. 15:08 < blindcoder> c3 ezra? sorry, I am at a total loss here 15:09 < netrunner> blindcoder: via epia m <= 1000 have an ezra core cpu. 15:09 < netrunner> blindcoder: a nice allinone mini-itx board ... 15:10 < blindcoder> i see 15:14 < blindcoder> narf... xfree needs ed... 15:20 < rxr> netrunner: you seem to have a rather interesting view about CPU instructions ... about what 686 means, what should be optional and what executing and calling is ... 15:20 -!- mnemoc_ [~amery@200.75.27.17] has quit ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. https://miranda-im.org") 15:21 < rxr> gcc can not check - it could link s.th. into the to-be-cretaed executable 15:21 -!- batok [~chatzilla@200.52.197.185] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.36 [Mozilla rv:1.5/0]") 15:21 < rxr> but you can not simply check for cmov whatever - you can just execute it - and if your CPU does not like it - it will just generate an invalid instruction / operand exception - beeing synchron hardware intrerrupt ... 15:23 < rxr> so even if you handle that one in the execute (now it get's non-portable POSIX system dependant ...) you would need to rewrite the wohle executable to not use cmov but cmp, j?, mov, ... - and since the whole code would get different even alter any exiting jump target and so on and so on 15:23 -!- batok [~chatzilla@200.52.197.185] has joined #rocklinux 15:24 -!- mnemoc_ [~amery@200.75.27.17] has joined #rocklinux 15:24 < rxr> sure it is possible (see Crusoe Code Morphing) but you do not want this in your binary - and since Via was too dump to add it to that via - you need to hack GCC since it is a very non-standard CPU ... 15:25 < rxr> a instruction is btw. not called - but executed in the execution unit of you CPU ... 15:25 < rxr> s/a/an/1 ... 15:49 -!- mnemoc_ [~amery@200.75.27.17] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:52 -!- mnemoc_ [~amery@200.75.27.17] has joined #rocklinux 15:54 < mnemoc_> re :( 15:56 -!- mnemoc_ [~amery@200.75.27.17] has quit ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. https://miranda-im.org") 15:56 < netrunner> rxr: I read that intel spec says code may not simply assume that cmov exists but needs to check for it. I am not that good in lower architecture 15:57 -!- nookie [~nookie@M506P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 15:57 -!- mnemoc_ [~amery@200.75.27.17] has joined #rocklinux 15:57 < netrunner> rxr: https://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=377 10.2 16:03 < mnemoc_> ic.... you are trying to patch gcc to check if cmov-s work 16:04 < netrunner> mnemoc_: nope, to remove it. I know that my epia has no cmov. this is why gcc-i686 code does not work. the only thing. 16:05 < netrunner> with that optimization I could watch dvd smoothly :) 16:05 < mnemoc_> ^^ 16:07 < netrunner> other idea is the rev-engineered driver for the hw mpeg2 decoder. I also have that in the target. 16:07 < mnemoc_> have you tryed adding this epic as arch? 16:09 < netrunner> I added it to the x86, since it is not a new arch. I just included via-c3-improved 16:12 < mnemoc_> that's what i meaned :) 16:13 < mnemoc_> you can add a function in arch's parse-config to var_append patchfiles ' ' $archdir/via-c3/$pkg.patch 16:14 < mnemoc_> and using a 'case' you can easly handle linux24* 16:14 -!- Netsplit niven.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: esdentem 16:17 < netrunner> mnemoc_: I am fine with the target. as long as it works. and it currently doesnot. 16:20 < mnemoc_> your problem is with the patch, with the var_append or with the target specific config? 16:23 < netrunner> the patching works, thx to you :) 16:24 < netrunner> mnemoc_: the binaries that were created do not work correctly. only half. filesize is not computed correctly, all are at 562949953421312 16:24 < mnemoc_> oh... i thought..... d'oh. 16:25 < netrunner> mnemoc_: therefore several calls fail, like mktemp says value too big. 16:25 < mnemoc_> with that size i would scream the same ;) 16:26 < netrunner> I already straced it, the call to lstat returns the correct, only later in write comes the wrong. 16:26 < netrunner> that must be -1 or something. 16:27 -!- Netsplit over, joins: esdentem 16:30 < blindcoder> netrunner: patch ls to increase the size of size 16:31 < blindcoder> I currently fuck around with xfree not detecting my libC-Version correctly 16:31 < blindcoder> thus completely screwing up the linking... and I can't find WHERE it detects the libC-Version... 16:33 < blindcoder> problem is that this always happens at the END of the build thus always taking 40 minutes until it fails afain 16:34 < daja77> wow reworked plans https://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag/2004/allgemeines/plan/ 16:36 < netrunner> hehe, we have more tables than g@nt** or kde ;) 16:39 < daja77> ^ 16:39 < daja77> ^ 16:39 < mnemoc_> :-D 16:40 < mnemoc_> more that postgres and gnoppix 16:41 < mnemoc_> RL = debian and netbsd 16:41 < daja77> the plans were made with xfig ... 16:42 < mnemoc_> we must present 2.0 there :-) 16:42 < daja77> would rock indeed 16:42 < daja77> oki reboot 16:42 * netrunner hopes to have his x31 until then. 16:48 -!- kasc [kasc@dsl-082-082-220-091.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 16:50 < mnemoc_> daja77: fedora? 16:51 < daja77> mnemoc_: huh? 16:51 < mnemoc_> no fedora at clt? 16:51 < daja77> nope winxp :( 16:51 < mnemoc_> lol 16:51 < daja77> the project 16:52 < daja77> dunno 16:52 < daja77> no 16:52 < daja77> rh guys are weird sometimes 16:53 < mnemoc_> :-\ 16:53 -!- elon [~afgh@zwelf.in-dsl.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16:56 < mnemoc_> but there are fedora developers at tu-chemnitz.de, or not? 16:57 < daja77> just one 16:57 < mnemoc_> he can have a chair :) 16:58 < daja77> hmm i think he is involved in some presentation 17:00 < rxr> re 17:00 < mnemoc_> wb rxr 17:00 < mnemoc_> dsl problems yesterday? 17:01 < daja77> social problems ^ 17:01 < mnemoc_> damn :\ 17:05 < rxr> well - social in the form that the power-cord was plugged from the DSL modem ... 17:06 < mnemoc_> :-) 17:08 < rxr> oh my - the last dietlibc release already differs 250kB from the current dietlibc CVS ... :-( 17:09 -!- kasc [kasc@dsl-082-082-216-099.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:09 < daja77> rxr: annoy fefe to release 17:09 < mnemoc_> copyright header changes ;-) 17:10 < mnemoc_> (jk) 17:10 -!- elon [~afgh@zwelf.in-dsl.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:10 < daja77> hehe 17:11 < netrunner> muahaha, voyager: "computer, create recursive algorithm!" ... "Finished." 17:14 < daja77> rotfl 17:16 < blindcoder> must be linux then 17:16 < blindcoder> cause we all know that linux can do infinite loops in 5 seconds 17:20 < blindcoder> OTOH, even a simple flip flop can be considered a recursive algorhythm 17:27 < rxr> blindcoder: the hwscan problem you had weeks ago with the awk internal error is not a LCP problem or vmware your system related 17:27 < rxr> it is a dietlibc problem introduced recently ... 17:27 < blindcoder> I haven't linked gawk against dietlibc... 17:27 < blindcoder> but glibc... 17:28 < blindcoder> In fact I don't use dietlibc in LVP at all because nothing I need links against it since the last upgrade 17:29 < netrunner> rxr: I saw that error in a bootdisk built this week. 17:30 < blindcoder> commenting asort worked around it for me 17:30 < rxr> blindcoder: oh - thanks for this investigation ;-) 17:31 < rxr> blindcoder: the dietlibc people changed the qsort algorithm - then I guess it had a bug ... 17:31 < rxr> blindcoder: I'm just at the dietlibc junk - I should get to it later ... 17:31 < blindcoder> ah no... wait... 17:31 < blindcoder> I _had_ linked gawk against dietlibc at that time... 17:32 < blindcoder> don't know why but gawk was one of the few programs that linked against it... 17:32 < blindcoder> In the current release I gave up on dietlibc however, was too much trouble 17:35 < rxr> what was the trouble ? 17:36 < blindcoder> bash doesn't link against it with parse errors in .h files as well as gzip and a third one I don't remember right now 17:36 < blindcoder> s/link/compile/ 17:38 < batok> ls 17:40 < mnemoc_> ls: reading directory .: No such file or directory 17:42 -!- batok [~chatzilla@200.52.197.185] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.35 [Mozilla rv:1.5/20031115]") 17:49 -!- esdentem [~esdentem@rincewind.informatik.tu-muenchen.de] has quit ("Leaving") 18:14 -!- nookie [~nookie@M506P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18:15 -!- nookie [~nookie@M483P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 18:31 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-30-76.reverse.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:31 < holyolli> moin 18:31 < mnemoc_> moin holyolli 18:31 < holyolli> hola mnemoc_ 18:36 < mnemoc_> como puedo decirle a apache cual virtualhost es el default? ;-) 18:38 < blindcoder> [SPAM] 18:38 < mnemoc_> hm? 18:38 -!- elon [~afgh@zwelf.in-dsl.de] has quit (Success) 18:38 < blindcoder> well, that looked like the Subject: line of most of the spam I'm currently receiving :) 18:38 < mnemoc_> how can i choose what name based virtualhost is the default server? 18:38 < blindcoder> the first one is the default one 18:39 < mnemoc_> :( 18:39 < blindcoder> why? 18:39 < mnemoc_> Include "/etc/opt/apache/hosts/*.conf" 18:39 < mnemoc_> :( 18:40 < blindcoder> call the default one something like 00- 18:40 < mnemoc_> good idea :-) 18:42 < blindcoder> I always have good ideas :) 18:43 < mnemoc_> how is melanie? (right name?) 18:43 < blindcoder> alive and kicking (everyone around :) 18:44 < mnemoc_> lol 18:44 < blindcoder> as long as she stays away from stroboscobes, she's fine :) 18:45 < mnemoc_> :) 19:09 < owl> re 19:22 < netrunner> from what stage on is a gcc inside the builddir used? 19:23 < rxr> stage 2 19:23 < rxr> stage 0-1 is bootstrap - the rest is chroot jail 19:24 < netrunner> hm, so the corrupt ls is built with my host-gcc. so it can only be an optimization I used. 19:24 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/products/rock-handbook/html/rock-handbookse70.html 19:25 < mnemoc_> stage 1 is build with tools.cross' gcc and stage 2 with stage 1's? 19:25 < rxr> mnemoc_: ack 19:26 < rxr> aeh mom 19:26 < netrunner> hm, so stage1 binutils is already built by my (patched) 0-gcc3 19:26 < rxr> yes 19:27 < rxr> it should be 19:28 < netrunner> ok, now rebuilding -job 0-binutils, if that uses my host gcc and it does not fail, it's my patch. 19:31 < rxr> me added boost-jam and boost 19:31 < rxr> boost might not yet compile - still building - but I need to leave soon ... 19:33 < netrunner> rxr: I have a package for boost ready here :( 19:34 < rxr> netrunner: then you should send patches more regularly .. 19:34 * fake listening to humppa 19:34 < netrunner> rxr: sorry, since I already sent unfinished patches to early, I wanted to review them in a silent minute 19:35 -!- nOssferatu [~noss@209.124.115.24] has joined #rocklinux 19:36 < fake> rxr: did you apply my gtkpod submaster patch already? 19:36 < netrunner> rxr: I commented the jam stuff anyway since I only needed the headers. and to find and install the libraries is a mess. 19:36 -!- nOssferatu [~noss@209.124.115.24] has left #rocklinux ("Leaving") 19:36 < rxr> fake: no 19:36 < owl> hi fake 19:36 < fake> there is already a link on the gtkpod page to the package page ;_ 19:36 < fake> hi owl! 19:37 < rxr> netrunner: ok - so we have a boost package now, that also installs the libraries ;-) 19:37 < fake> rxr: please apply 19:37 < rxr> fake: on wich URL is a link to our package page? 19:38 < fake> https://gtkpod.sourceforge.net/ 19:38 < fake> (i sent a patch upstream and talked to the author a bit.) 19:41 * netrunner now submitted avm/kahakai (depending on boost and swig) 19:44 < rxr> netrunner: interesting - this is why I updated swig ... 19:45 < rxr> netrunner: but I would rather convert my waimea package to it's successor .. 19:45 < rxr> I think we do not need a bit-rotting windowmanager just for fun? 19:48 < rxr> netrunner: boost built fine on my iBook ... 19:48 < rxr> fake: applied 19:50 < fake> rene: thanks! 19:51 < netrunner> rxr: on x86 also. you may convert, I do certainly not insist in having more packages. only sending a few now to avoid more redundant work. 19:51 < mnemoc_> a blog can be good for that 19:52 < netrunner> btw, I couldn't build kahakai on my laptop since it consumed all ressources. boost has about 19k templates ;) 19:52 < rxr> netrunner: jups - sending patches as early as possible often saves a lot of work ... 19:52 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-078-169.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:53 < rxr> netrunner: I'm just compiling this kahakai - I'll see later how it will look ... 19:53 < netrunner> did I read correctly that QTDIR is now supplied by default? (so I can remove it from my mythtv.conf before submitting ;) 19:54 < netrunner> rxr: it has a stupid default setting, space opens window properties ... 19:55 < rxr> netrunner: yes 19:57 -!- mnemoc__ [~amery@200.75.27.27] has joined #rocklinux 19:57 < rxr> cu later - or tomorrow ... 19:57 * fake away again hacking mipsel 19:58 < mnemoc__> cu rxr 19:59 -!- mnemoc_ [~amery@200.75.27.17] has quit (Nick collision from services.) 19:59 -!- mnemoc__ is now known as mnemoc_ 19:59 < netrunner> damnit, why do I always forget attaching the files :( 20:00 < mnemoc_> you like to reply yourself? 20:00 < netrunner> hm, 0-binutils also shows wrong sizes. 20:01 < netrunner> netrunner: what about a capu? 20:01 < netrunner> netrunner: sure, why not! 20:01 < netrunner> mnemoc_: no, where do you take that idea? 20:02 < mnemoc_> lol :) 20:03 < mnemoc_> netrunner: try a 0-binutils of a non-patched target 20:04 -!- esdentem [~esdentem@lain.informatik.tu-muenchen.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:04 < esdentem> hi all 20:05 < netrunner> hi esdentem 20:05 < esdentem> hi netrunner 20:05 < holyolli> hi esdentem 20:05 < esdentem> hi holyolli 20:05 < esdentem> who else? ;) 20:05 < mnemoc_> hi esden 20:05 < mnemoc_> :) 20:05 < esdentem> hi mnemoc_ 20:05 < esdentem> ;) 20:06 * esdentem started a rocklinux build in vmware 20:06 * esdentem is very eager to see how long it will take 20:07 < netrunner> esdentem: I want to buy a x31, could I get a special price ordering via the chair? 20:08 < mnemoc_> maybe sit on the table is cheaper 20:09 < esdentem> hmm ... you should ask christian if it is possible 20:09 < netrunner> hehehe, from the ibm website: Server mapping error. The server is misconfigured. 20:09 < esdentem> lol 20:12 < netrunner> ah, crap, ls is in coreutils. 20:15 < esdentem> netrunner: well observed :) 20:16 < daja77> re 20:16 < mnemoc_> wb daja77 20:16 < daja77> thx mnemoc_ 20:17 < esdentem> hi daja77 20:17 < daja77> esden! 20:17 < holyolli> hi daja77 20:17 < daja77> hi holyolli 20:17 < daja77> full house ... 20:18 < mnemoc_> :) 20:20 < blindcoder> netrunner: could have told you earlier... 20:22 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAB730.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:23 < netrunner> blindcoder: nice to know ;) 20:26 < netrunner> hm, the ls correctly contains no cmove, maybe there is a bug in gcc constructing executables without cmov ... 20:35 * mnemoc_ gone 20:36 < daja77> cu mnemoc_ 20:44 < blindcoder> netrunner: you really should do something about that patch thingie of yours :) 20:45 < netrunner> blindcoder: I know. 20:46 * netrunner trying another way of patching gcc 20:48 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-30-76.reverse.qsc.de] has quit ("Leaving") 20:49 < esdentem> humm ... strange ... the tools for stage 1 are being built ... then mine is being built and yelds that it builds in stage 0 not in 1 20:49 < esdentem> o_O 21:04 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@p508018C0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:04 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958FF40.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Nick collision from services.) 21:04 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 21:21 -!- LocalHero [~alex@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has joined #rocklinux 21:21 < LocalHero> Hi all 21:32 -!- LocalHero [~alex@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has left #rocklinux ("Kopete 0.7.3 : https://kopete.kde.org") 21:51 -!- kandinski_lunch is now known as kandinski 22:05 -!- scoopexH [~marc@td9091bf1.adsl.terralink.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 22:11 * netrunner now patching glibc 22:11 < daja77> O_o 22:17 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-30-76.reverse.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 22:17 < holyolli> re 22:18 -!- L337-fuxOr [~Juliako@134.Red-213-97-140.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:18 < netrunner> HWCAP_IMPORTANT = (HWCAP_I386_MMX | HWCAP_I386_CMOV) (adding cmov) 22:28 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-078-169.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 22:28 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-079-054.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:45 -!- L337-fuxOr [~Juliako@134.Red-213-97-140.pooles.rima-tde.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:59 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAB730.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Leaving") 23:02 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-059-057.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:09 -!- kandinski [~kandinski@62.151.228.73] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23:11 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-079-054.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23:14 < jsaw_> re 23:15 < holyolli> jsaw_: hi 23:15 < jsaw_> hi holyolli 23:15 < holyolli> jsaw_: i only got a quiet normal board - without c3 :((( 23:15 < holyolli> (perhaps you remember..) 23:15 < jsaw_> does anybody have an idea what's wrong with the bootdisk (cycling kiss)? 23:15 < jsaw_> holyolli: yep, I do 23:19 < cytrinox`> gn8 23:24 < jsaw_> bias 23:28 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-078-176.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:35 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-213-023-059-057.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:38 -!- Nebukadneza` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-073.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:58 -!- Nebukadneza`` [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-078-176.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Connection timed out) --- Log closed Mon Jan 26 00:00:17 2004