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03:14 < mnemoc_> re :-)
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04:15 < mnemoc_> *yawn*
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08:37 < netrunner> hehe, that dietlibc thing takes 9sec to compile :)
08:37 * netrunner restarting build (don't build pkg if dep failed is a baad idea if you disable linux26)
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10:10 < blindcoder> moin
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11:19 < blindcoder> GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
11:19 < blindcoder> mnemoc: diffutils was missing in my target, that's why the rock scripts just sat there...
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12:08 < netrunner> ./scripts/Build-Pkg: line 105: .: ./scripts/functions: file is too large
12:09 < blindcoder> oehm
12:10 < netrunner> and my build server just decided to reboot. weird.
12:10 < blindcoder> this seems to happen more frequently atm... daja had the same already
12:10 < blindcoder> (the reboot thing)
12:11 < netrunner> hm, just noticed it did not reboot, but killed the X.
12:11 < netrunner> but since he does not react to syscalls, I reboot now.
12:11 < blindcoder> if X was running at 5AM then it's normal
12:12 < netrunner> why?
12:12 < blindcoder> /etc/cron.d/20-logrotate
12:12 < netrunner> didn't happen before.
12:12 < blindcoder> XFree86.0.log is >4MB and 20-logrotate HUPs the X-Server
12:13 < netrunner> not nice.
12:13 < blindcoder> well, I already noted that ages ago
12:13 < blindcoder> around the time I started working with ROCK
12:13 < blindcoder> noone cared back then
12:15 < netrunner> blindcoder: since X only rebooted now I do not think that was the cause. anyway, it's not nice to hup my x server ;)
12:22 < blindcoder> I patched my logrotate to contain the following line:
12:22 < blindcoder> if [ $kilobytes -gt 4096 -a "$filename" != "/var/log/XFree86.0.log" -a "$filename" != "/var/log/wtmp" ] ; then
12:24 < netrunner> hm, after the error before is thrown, my build server acts scary :(
12:24 < blindcoder> my machine only acted strange when rootfs was full some days ago...
12:24 < blindcoder> no more /var/log/messages for example
12:25 < netrunner> ah, now I know, thousands of bash processes like 17240 pts/1    S      0:00 bash scripts/xfind.sh config/epia/. package/. scripts
12:25 < blindcoder> ARGh
12:26 < blindcoder> xfind *runs*
12:27 < netrunner> what is that?
12:27 < blindcoder> a script from ROCK which uses cmp from diffutils and is needed in Build-Tools and just fucking sits there doing nothing at all when diffutils is not in your target
12:28 < blindcoder> that cost me all yesterday to figure out
12:31 * blindcoder --> lunch
12:40 < netrunner> ps axf | grep -e cat -e xfind.sh | awk '{FS=" "; print $1;}' | xargs kill
12:40 < netrunner> now silence ;)
12:41 < owl> moin
12:41 < netrunner> hi owl
12:41 < owl> hi netrunner 
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12:46 < mnemoc_> moin
12:48 < owl> hi mnemoc_ 
12:51 < mnemoc_> hi owl
12:52 < netrunner> moin mnemoc_ 
12:53 < netrunner> mnemoc_: can you tell me why I get thousands of xfind spawns in my build?
12:55 < mnemoc_> hm? i thought only blindcoder has that problem
12:56 < netrunner> mnemoc_: you mentioned that pkg_linux24{,-src,-header}.conf are sourced from inside linux24 package?  so maybe I really created a loop there ...
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12:57 < netrunner> mnemoc_: do I need to source the $pkg.conf from my custom pkg_$pkg.conf ?
13:00 < mnemoc_> netrunner: yep
13:00 < netrunner> ok, so it's not me who loops there.
13:03 < mnemoc_> welll the source is in th eoposite direction of what i understood you did:
13:03 < mnemoc_> $targetdir/pkg_linux24-src.conf
13:03 < mnemoc_> . $base/package/base/linux24.conf
13:03 < mnemoc_> errr
13:04 < mnemoc_> $targetdir/pkg_linux24-src.conf
13:04 < mnemoc_> . $targetdir/pkg_linux24.conf
13:05 < mnemoc_> and $targetdir/pkg_linux24.conf
13:05 < mnemoc_> var_append patchfiles ' ' $targetdir/pkg_linux24.diff
13:05 < mnemoc_> . $base/package/base/linux24/linux24.conf
13:05 < mnemoc_> take care to call the patch .diff to not get it duplicated on $pkg=linux24
13:06 < mnemoc_> brb
13:07 < netrunner> hm ok.
13:10 < blindcoder> back
13:12 < owl> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/bo-24.01.04-000/ <- OUCH
13:12 < owl> moin blindy
13:13 < blindcoder> moin owl
13:30 < netrunner> it's the call to Build-Pkg 2-binutils that freaks out.
13:30 < blindcoder> netrunner: do you have diffutils in your target?
13:30 < daja77> moin
13:30 < blindcoder> moin daja77 
13:30 < netrunner> blindcoder: jup.
13:30 < daja77> moin
13:31 < daja77> blindcoder: the reboot was due power fail
13:31 < netrunner> hi daja77 
13:31 < daja77> hi netti
13:32 < blindcoder> netrunner: then I also don't know...
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13:44 < cytrinox`> moin
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13:47 < netrunner> hm, I must have destroyed something in Build-Pkg with my experiments yesterday.
13:48 < netrunner> damn that svn.rocklinux-consulting.de is not reachable since yesterday :(
13:48 < blindcoder> use svn2
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13:49 < netrunner> can I update from another server?
13:50 < blindcoder> sure
13:50 * netrunner trying svn switch --relocate
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13:55 < rxr> re
13:55 < rxr> damn ex-girlfirend unplugged the DSL modem somewhen yesterday ... :-(
13:55 < rxr> damn strange people in this world - *grummel*
13:55 < rxr> at leat I'll sign my for the new flat tomorrow ... ;-)!
13:56 < daja77> good luck
13:57 < rxr> is svn.rock-... now reachable from the outside again?
14:02 < blindcoder> well, that's a strange error from xfree...
14:03 < blindcoder> /usr/include/bits/mathcalls.h:179: declaration of `float ceilf(float) throw ()'
14:03 < blindcoder>    throws different exceptions
14:04 < rxr> blindcoder: never saw this - but I buess two different headers are included which only differ in the exception specification ...
14:04 < blindcoder> yes, one is from xfree mymath.h and one is from the glibc libm
14:04 < blindcoder> I just don't know what caused this...
14:05 < blindcoder> haven't had that before I shrunk LVP's package list
14:05 < rxr> blindcoder: maybe misdetection whether the system libm does work or so ...
14:08 < blindcoder> yes, looks like that...
14:08 < netrunner> *ieek* -rw-r--r--    1 root     root     562949953421312 Jan 21 11:58 scripts/functions
14:09 < netrunner> could it be that I better should build this target on the very computer it is thought for?
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14:11 < blindcoder> netrunner: wtf have you done?
14:12 < netrunner> blindcoder: uhm, nothing? 8)
14:13 < netrunner> blindcoder: removed the cmov from gcc. created a target. started it.
14:13 < blindcoder> cmov?
14:14 < daja77> grrr /me on windows
14:14 < rxr> what is the content of script/functions
14:14 < rxr> maybe a simple build system instability / corruption?
14:14 < blindcoder> rxr: found it, seems like it either can't detect linux or can't detect the libc version
14:14 < netrunner> mom, phone
14:17 < netrunner> ok, the ls shows for everything 562949953421312 as size. (in the new root)
14:20 < netrunner> maybe my athlon mp misses some instructions from i686?
14:21 < rxr> no - it shouldn't
14:21 < rxr> maybe a tiny memory corruption?
14:23 < netrunner> rxr: I do not want to hear that. basta :)
14:23 < rxr> try a reboot ...
14:23 < rxr> only the bind mounted files are affected - the orignial dir which comes from the FileSystem is ok ?
14:24 < netrunner> rxr: yes, it's only inside the build/ . the files themselves are ok, but seem to compute sizes wrong. (mktemp also says  Value too large for defined data type)
14:24 < rxr> oehm - reboot and retry ?
14:25 < netrunner> rxr: reboot and rebuild?
14:26 < rxr> not a full rebuild - just try one of the failed packages for a test ...
14:26 < netrunner> rxr: none yet failed. haven't left stage 1 though. error occurs when chrooting, since those binaries miscompute.
14:27 < rxr> btw are the errors only inside the chroot environment - and the files have the correct size when not stat'ed with a chroot binary?
14:27 < netrunner> yes.
14:27 < rxr> only in chroot?
14:28 < netrunner> rxr: no, just running them shows wrong sizes, eg build/epiablubb/root/bin/ls -l shows wrong, while (host)/bin/ls -l does
14:28 < netrunner> show correct
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14:29 < rxr> hm - but you athlon has all i686 instructions - and if not it woudl throw SIG_ILL ..
14:29 < rxr> netrunner: you need to look deeper into it - e.g. compare what the system calls return (via strace) and see what is done wrong
14:30 < netrunner> rxr: what I did was to follow the hints in http://epia.std-err.de/gcc.php by creating patches for the gcc's and modifying architecture/x86/gcc-options.
14:31 < rxr> netrunner: I know and this should work on your athlon
14:31 < rxr> so lib or gcc must have a problem somwhere
14:33 < rxr> 353085 bytes dietlibc-0.23-0.24.diff
14:33 < netrunner> lstat reports correct size.
14:33 < rxr> how can soo much change between two minor versions of a diet libc .. :-(
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14:36 < rxr> hi jsaw_ mnemoc_ 
14:37 < mnemoc_> hi rxr
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14:38 < mnemoc_> netrunner: i mistake in what i wrote you.... pkg_linux24.conf has to source $pkg/$pkg.conf instead of static thing... sorry
14:38 < netrunner> mnemoc_: np, I didn't take you linebyline ;)
14:39 < mnemoc_> :)
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14:39 < mnemoc_> blindcoder: why did you download ucl twice?
14:40 < mnemoc_> s/did/do/
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14:45 < rxr> so - but now I take a bath - cu
14:45 < rxr> in some minutes
14:45 < rxr> mnemoc_: btw - I'll track the dietlibc regressions after the bath and meal ...
14:48 < mnemoc_> good luck rxr :)
14:48 < mnemoc_> wb batok
14:48 < netrunner> hm ... meal ... *rubbingstomach*
14:48 < netrunner> is there a chance that I can run the binaries correctly on the target system?
14:48 < batok> hi
14:49 < netrunner> but only because I removed one instruction it should still run correct on my one ...
14:49 < blindcoder> mnemoc_: because upx needs the ucl source to compile and the ucl static library to link
14:50 < mnemoc_> but you can untar it from ucl's download
14:50 < blindcoder> mnemoc_: so either I compile and install ucl in upx package or create a separate packgae
14:51 < blindcoder> that would be possible but if you installed ucl already and don't have the download/blindcoder/ucl/* files anymore, this would fail and be harder to trace
14:51 < mnemoc_> hm... ok
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15:00 < mnemoc_> btw, ithink you can build upx without a custmain, ...
15:00 < mnemoc_> to untar you can do it without the pipe using tar $taropt $file, 
15:00 < mnemoc_> setting srcdir to "upx-$ver/src", etc...
15:00 < mnemoc_> custmain are evil ;-)
15:02 < mnemoc_> brb
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15:02 < blindcoder>  I prefer the way of least resistance
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15:06 < netrunner> hm, the patching has not really worked anyway, 10 files contain cmov instruction after stage 1.
15:07 < mnemoc_> hm?
15:07 < blindcoder> mnemoc_: I prefer the way of least resistance
15:07 < netrunner> or was that the host gcc? from which stage on is the new built gcc used?
15:07 < blindcoder> what's that cmov anyway?
15:07 < netrunner> blindcoder: conditional move
15:07 < blindcoder> and why don't you want it?
15:08 < netrunner> blindcoder: an optional instruction for i686, missing in c3 ezra. but gcc code does not check as it should if it is supported and just calls it. 
15:08 < netrunner> blindcoder: if I want optimal code vor my c3, then I need to compile for i686, but without cmov.
15:08 < blindcoder> c3 ezra? sorry, I am at a total loss here
15:09 < netrunner> blindcoder: via epia m  <= 1000 have an ezra core cpu. 
15:09 < netrunner> blindcoder: a nice allinone mini-itx board ...
15:10 < blindcoder> i see
15:14 < blindcoder> narf... xfree needs ed...
15:20 < rxr> netrunner: you seem to have a rather interesting view about CPU instructions ... about what 686 means, what should be optional and what executing and calling is ...
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15:21 < rxr> gcc can not check - it could link s.th. into the to-be-cretaed executable
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15:21 < rxr> but you can not simply check for cmov whatever - you can just execute it - and if your CPU does not like it - it will just generate an invalid instruction / operand exception - beeing synchron hardware intrerrupt ...
15:23 < rxr> so even if you handle that one in the execute (now it get's non-portable POSIX system dependant ...) you would need to rewrite the wohle executable to not use cmov but cmp, j?, mov, ... - and since the whole code would get different even alter any exiting jump target and so on and so on
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15:24 < rxr> sure it is possible (see Crusoe Code Morphing) but you do not want this in your binary - and since Via was too dump to add it to that via - you need to hack GCC since it is a very non-standard CPU ...
15:25 < rxr> a instruction is btw. not called - but executed in the execution unit of you CPU ...
15:25 < rxr> s/a/an/1 ...
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15:54 < mnemoc_> re :(
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15:56 < netrunner> rxr: I read that intel spec says code may not simply assume that cmov exists but needs to check for it. I am not that good in lower architecture
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15:57 < netrunner> rxr: http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=377 10.2
16:03 < mnemoc_> ic.... you are trying to patch gcc to check if cmov-s work
16:04 < netrunner> mnemoc_: nope, to remove it. I know that my epia has no cmov. this is why gcc-i686 code does not work. the only thing.
16:05 < netrunner> with that optimization I could watch dvd smoothly :)
16:05 < mnemoc_> ^^
16:07 < netrunner> other idea is the rev-engineered driver for the hw mpeg2 decoder. I also have that in the target.
16:07 < mnemoc_> have you tryed adding this epic as arch?
16:09 < netrunner> I added it to the x86, since it is not a new arch. I just included via-c3-improved
16:12 < mnemoc_> that's what i meaned :)
16:13 < mnemoc_> you can add a function in arch's parse-config to var_append patchfiles ' ' $archdir/via-c3/$pkg.patch
16:14 < mnemoc_> and using a 'case' you can easly handle linux24*
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16:17 < netrunner> mnemoc_: I am fine with the target. as long as it works. and it currently doesnot.
16:20 < mnemoc_> your problem is with the patch, with the var_append or with the target specific config?
16:23 < netrunner> the patching works, thx to you :)
16:24 < netrunner> mnemoc_: the binaries that were created do not work correctly. only half. filesize is not computed correctly, all are at 562949953421312
16:24 < mnemoc_> oh... i thought..... d'oh.
16:25 < netrunner> mnemoc_: therefore several calls fail, like mktemp says value too big.
16:25 < mnemoc_> with that size i would scream the same ;)
16:26 < netrunner> I already straced it, the call to lstat returns the correct, only later in write comes the wrong.
16:26 < netrunner> that must be -1 or something.
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16:30 < blindcoder> netrunner: patch ls to increase the size of size
16:31 < blindcoder> I currently fuck around with xfree not detecting my libC-Version correctly
16:31 < blindcoder> thus completely screwing up the linking... and I can't find WHERE it detects the libC-Version...
16:33 < blindcoder> problem is that this always happens at the END of the build thus always taking 40 minutes until it fails afain
16:34 < daja77> wow reworked plans http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag/2004/allgemeines/plan/
16:36 < netrunner> hehe, we have more tables than g@nt** or kde ;)
16:39 < daja77> ^
16:39 < daja77> ^
16:39 < mnemoc_> :-D
16:40 < mnemoc_> more that postgres and gnoppix
16:41 < mnemoc_> RL = debian and netbsd
16:41 < daja77> the plans were made with xfig ...
16:42 < mnemoc_> we must present 2.0 there :-)
16:42 < daja77> would rock indeed
16:42 < daja77> oki reboot
16:42 * netrunner hopes to have his x31 until then.
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16:50 < mnemoc_> daja77: fedora?
16:51 < daja77> mnemoc_: huh?
16:51 < mnemoc_> no fedora at clt?
16:51 < daja77> nope winxp :(
16:51 < mnemoc_> lol
16:51 < daja77> the project
16:52 < daja77> dunno
16:52 < daja77> no
16:52 < daja77> rh guys are weird sometimes
16:53 < mnemoc_> :-\
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16:56 < mnemoc_> but there are fedora developers at tu-chemnitz.de, or not?
16:57 < daja77> just one
16:57 < mnemoc_> he can have a chair :)
16:58 < daja77> hmm i think he is involved in some presentation
17:00 < rxr> re
17:00 < mnemoc_> wb rxr
17:00 < mnemoc_> dsl problems yesterday?
17:01 < daja77> social problems ^
17:01 < mnemoc_> damn :\
17:05 < rxr> well - social in the form that the power-cord was plugged from the DSL modem ...
17:06 < mnemoc_> :-)
17:08 < rxr> oh my - the last dietlibc release already differs 250kB from the current dietlibc CVS ... :-(
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17:09 < daja77> rxr: annoy fefe to release
17:09 < mnemoc_> copyright header changes ;-)
17:10 < mnemoc_> (jk)
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17:10 < daja77> hehe
17:11 < netrunner> muahaha, voyager: "computer, create recursive algorithm!" ... "Finished."
17:14 < daja77> rotfl
17:16 < blindcoder> must be linux then
17:16 < blindcoder> cause we all know that linux can do infinite loops in 5 seconds
17:20 < blindcoder> OTOH, even a simple flip flop can be considered a recursive algorhythm
17:27 < rxr> blindcoder: the hwscan problem you had weeks ago with the awk internal error is not a LCP problem or vmware your system related
17:27 < rxr> it is a dietlibc problem introduced recently ...
17:27 < blindcoder> I haven't linked gawk against dietlibc...
17:27 < blindcoder> but glibc...
17:28 < blindcoder> In fact I don't use dietlibc in LVP at all because nothing I need links against it since the last upgrade
17:29 < netrunner> rxr: I saw that error in a bootdisk built this week.
17:30 < blindcoder> commenting asort worked around it for me
17:30 < rxr> blindcoder: oh - thanks for this investigation ;-)
17:31 < rxr> blindcoder: the dietlibc people changed the qsort algorithm - then I guess it had a bug ...
17:31 < rxr> blindcoder: I'm just at the dietlibc junk - I should get to it later ...
17:31 < blindcoder> ah no... wait...
17:31 < blindcoder> I _had_ linked gawk against dietlibc at that time...
17:32 < blindcoder> don't know why but gawk was one of the few programs that linked against it...
17:32 < blindcoder> In the current release I gave up on dietlibc however, was too much trouble
17:35 < rxr> what was the trouble ?
17:36 < blindcoder> bash doesn't link against it with parse errors in .h files as well as gzip and a third one I don't remember right now
17:36 < blindcoder> s/link/compile/
17:38 < batok> ls
17:40 < mnemoc_> ls: reading directory .: No such file or directory
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18:31 < holyolli> moin
18:31 < mnemoc_> moin holyolli
18:31 < holyolli> hola mnemoc_
18:36 < mnemoc_> como puedo decirle a apache cual virtualhost es el default? ;-)
18:38 < blindcoder> [SPAM]
18:38 < mnemoc_> hm?
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18:38 < blindcoder> well, that looked like the Subject: line of most of the spam I'm currently receiving :)
18:38 < mnemoc_> how can i choose what name based virtualhost is the default server?
18:38 < blindcoder> the first one is the default one
18:39 < mnemoc_> :(
18:39 < blindcoder> why?
18:39 < mnemoc_> Include "/etc/opt/apache/hosts/*.conf"
18:39 < mnemoc_> :(
18:40 < blindcoder> call the default one something like 00-
18:40 < mnemoc_> good idea :-)
18:42 < blindcoder> I always have good ideas :)
18:43 < mnemoc_> how is melanie? (right name?)
18:43 < blindcoder> alive and kicking (everyone around :)
18:44 < mnemoc_> lol
18:44 < blindcoder> as long as she stays away from stroboscobes, she's fine :)
18:45 < mnemoc_> :)
19:09 < owl> re
19:22 < netrunner> from what stage on is a gcc inside the builddir used?
19:23 < rxr> stage 2
19:23 < rxr> stage 0-1 is bootstrap - the rest is chroot jail
19:24 < netrunner> hm, so the corrupt ls is built with my host-gcc. so it can only be an optimization I used.
19:24 < rxr> http://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/products/rock-handbook/html/rock-handbookse70.html
19:25 < mnemoc_> stage 1 is build with tools.cross' gcc and stage 2 with stage 1's?
19:25 < rxr> mnemoc_: ack
19:26 < rxr> aeh mom
19:26 < netrunner> hm, so stage1 binutils is already built by my (patched) 0-gcc3
19:26 < rxr> yes
19:27 < rxr> it should be
19:28 < netrunner> ok, now rebuilding -job 0-binutils, if that uses my host gcc and it does not fail, it's my patch.
19:31 < rxr> me added boost-jam and boost
19:31 < rxr> boost might not yet compile - still building - but I need to leave soon ...
19:33 < netrunner> rxr: I have a package for boost ready here :(
19:34 < rxr> netrunner: then you should send patches more regularly ..
19:34 * fake listening to humppa
19:34 < netrunner> rxr: sorry, since I already sent unfinished patches to early, I wanted to review them in a silent minute
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19:36 < fake> rxr: did you apply my gtkpod submaster patch already?
19:36 < netrunner> rxr: I commented the jam stuff anyway since I only needed the headers. and to find and install the libraries is a mess.
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19:36 < rxr> fake: no
19:36 < owl> hi fake 
19:36 < fake> there is already a link on the gtkpod page to the package page ;_
19:36 < fake> hi owl!
19:37 < rxr> netrunner: ok - so we have a boost package now, that also installs the libraries ;-)
19:37 < fake> rxr: please apply
19:37 < rxr> fake: on wich URL is a link to our package page?
19:38 < fake> http://gtkpod.sourceforge.net/
19:38 < fake> (i sent a patch upstream and talked to the author a bit.)
19:41 * netrunner now submitted avm/kahakai (depending on boost and swig)
19:44 < rxr> netrunner: interesting - this is why I updated swig ...
19:45 < rxr> netrunner: but I would rather convert my waimea package to it's successor ..
19:45 < rxr> I think we do not need a bit-rotting windowmanager just for fun?
19:48 < rxr> netrunner: boost built fine on my iBook ...
19:48 < rxr> fake: applied
19:50 < fake> rene: thanks!
19:51 < netrunner> rxr: on x86 also. you may convert, I do certainly not insist in having more packages. only sending a few now to avoid more redundant work.
19:51 < mnemoc_> a blog can be good for that
19:52 < netrunner> btw, I couldn't build kahakai on my laptop since it consumed all ressources. boost has about 19k templates ;)
19:52 < rxr> netrunner: jups - sending patches as early as possible often saves a lot of work ...
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19:53 < rxr> netrunner: I'm just compiling this kahakai - I'll see later how it will look ...
19:53 < netrunner> did I read correctly that QTDIR is now supplied by default? (so I can remove it from my mythtv.conf before submitting ;)
19:54 < netrunner> rxr: it has a stupid default setting, space opens window properties ... 
19:55 < rxr> netrunner: yes
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19:57 < rxr> cu later - or tomorrow ...
19:57 * fake away again hacking mipsel
19:58 < mnemoc__> cu rxr
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19:59 < netrunner> damnit, why do I always forget attaching the files :(
20:00 < mnemoc_> you like to reply yourself?
20:00 < netrunner> hm, 0-binutils also shows wrong sizes. 
20:01 < netrunner> netrunner: what about a capu?
20:01 < netrunner> netrunner: sure, why not! 
20:01 < netrunner> mnemoc_: no, where do you take that idea?
20:02 < mnemoc_> lol :)
20:03 < mnemoc_> netrunner: try a 0-binutils of a non-patched target
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20:04 < esdentem> hi all
20:05 < netrunner> hi esdentem 
20:05 < esdentem> hi netrunner
20:05 < holyolli> hi esdentem
20:05 < esdentem> hi holyolli
20:05 < esdentem> who else? ;)
20:05 < mnemoc_> hi esden
20:05 < mnemoc_> :)
20:05 < esdentem> hi mnemoc_
20:05 < esdentem> ;)
20:06 * esdentem started a rocklinux build in vmware
20:06 * esdentem is very eager to see how long it will take
20:07 < netrunner> esdentem: I want to buy a x31, could I get a special price ordering via the chair?
20:08 < mnemoc_> maybe sit on the table is cheaper
20:09 < esdentem> hmm ... you should ask christian if it is possible
20:09 < netrunner> hehehe, from the ibm website: Server mapping error. The server is misconfigured.
20:09 < esdentem> lol
20:12 < netrunner> ah, crap, ls is in coreutils.
20:15 < esdentem> netrunner: well observed :)
20:16 < daja77> re
20:16 < mnemoc_> wb daja77
20:16 < daja77> thx mnemoc_ 
20:17 < esdentem> hi daja77
20:17 < daja77> esden!
20:17 < holyolli> hi daja77
20:17 < daja77> hi holyolli 
20:17 < daja77> full house ...
20:18 < mnemoc_> :)
20:20 < blindcoder> netrunner: could have told you earlier...
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20:23 < netrunner> blindcoder: nice to know ;)
20:26 < netrunner> hm, the ls correctly contains no cmove, maybe there is a bug in gcc constructing executables without cmov ...
20:35 * mnemoc_ gone
20:36 < daja77> cu mnemoc_ 
20:44 < blindcoder> netrunner: you really should do something about that patch thingie of yours :)
20:45 < netrunner> blindcoder: I know. 
20:46 * netrunner trying another way of patching gcc
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20:49 < esdentem> humm ... strange ... the tools for stage 1 are being built ... then mine is being built and yelds that it builds in stage 0 not in 1 
20:49 < esdentem> o_O
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21:21 < LocalHero> Hi all
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22:11 * netrunner now patching glibc
22:11 < daja77> O_o
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22:17 < holyolli> re
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22:18 < netrunner> HWCAP_IMPORTANT = (HWCAP_I386_MMX | HWCAP_I386_CMOV) (adding cmov)
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23:14 < jsaw_> re
23:15 < holyolli> jsaw_: hi
23:15 < jsaw_> hi holyolli 
23:15 < holyolli> jsaw_: i only got a quiet normal board - without c3 :(((
23:15 < holyolli> (perhaps you remember..)
23:15 < jsaw_> does anybody have an idea what's wrong with the bootdisk (cycling kiss)?
23:15 < jsaw_> holyolli: yep, I do
23:19 < cytrinox`> gn8
23:24 < jsaw_> bias
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