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--- Log opened Mon Jan 26 00:00:17 2004
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00:08 < holyolli> n8
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03:16 < mistik1> I just love that nick
03:16 < mistik1> can I steal it
03:16 < jsaw> give it a try?
03:16 < mistik1> heh
03:16 < jsaw> hi mistik1 btw
03:16 < mistik1> How you doing jsaw 
03:18 < jsaw> pretty pissed currently (tried to install rock on an old computer since a few hours. Now I realized, that "wait(NULL)" in linuxrc.c simply continues without waiting. After replacing all of these with "waitpid".. it works...)
03:18 < jsaw> (which btw leads to a failing tar, because the directory is unmounted before tar takes action)
03:19 < mistik1> eww
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03:43 < mnemoc_> re
03:43 < jsaw> hi mnemoc_ 
03:43 < jsaw> mnemoc_: some problem with rsbac:
03:44 < jsaw> mnemoc_: raidtools includes linux/unistd.h which then includes "rsbac/unistd-i386.h" -> not found
03:45 < mnemoc_> hi jsaw
03:45 < jsaw> probably linux24-headers should include this? or simply a link from /usr/src/linux/include/rsbac to /usr/include/rsbac?
03:45 < mnemoc_> linux24-headers must have get patched too :\
03:49 < jsaw> mnemoc_: could be my fault? (enbling/changing rsbac after linux24-headers was already built)
03:49 < mnemoc_> ./scripts/Build-Target -job 1-linux24-header :)
03:49 < jsaw> trying now...
03:51 < jsaw> would it be possible to remove source dependant packages also automatically with newdelete?
03:53 < mnemoc_> considering $foo/pkg_$pkg_{pre,post}.conf you can do something a little smarter
03:53 < mnemoc_> remove deps in cascade is almost a Cleanup -full
03:54 < jsaw> mnemoc_: maybe you should check this linux24-header thing yourself, but rsbac doesn't show up in flist :(
03:54 < mnemoc_> what about the echo_status?
03:55 < jsaw> what do you mean, this:
03:55 < jsaw> -> Including RSBAC patch...
03:55 < jsaw> ?
03:55 < mnemoc_> yep
03:56 * mnemoc_ has no rock at hand to test :(
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03:57 < mnemoc_> can you mail me the log?
03:58 < jsaw> mnemoc_: depends how long it takes to reinstall my "central" server... 
03:59 * mnemoc_ wonders if "miranda im" supports /dcc send
04:02 < mnemoc_> hook_add prepatch  4 "tar -v $taropt ${pkg_rsbac_archdir}/rsbac-v${pkg_rsbac_ver}.tar.bz2"
04:02 < mnemoc_> this should be noticeable in your log :)
04:04 < jsaw> it is, but still, the headers are not copied to /usr/include/rsbac
04:05 < mnemoc_> ehm.... /usr/include/linux/rsbac ?
04:06 < mnemoc_> is that there?
04:07 < jsaw> no
04:07 < jsaw>  cp -rv include/{asm-{sparc{,64},generic},linux} $root/$prefix/include/
04:07 < jsaw> no rsbac in here
04:08 < mnemoc_> :o
04:08 < mnemoc_> linux24-header was cleaned :\
04:09 < jsaw> quote: "(stefanp) don't mess with it if you don't know what you are doing, damnit"
04:10 < mnemoc_> :(
04:12 < jsaw> why ":("? (I meant the guy that removed rsbac from linux24-header)
04:13 * mnemoc_ thinking how to hook_add without adding a new hook_eval
04:14 < jsaw> [ -d include/rsbac ] && cp ... ?
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04:14 < mnemoc_> don't like to dirt main configs
04:15 < jsaw> k.
04:15 < mnemoc_> you do it, for get your thing built
04:15 < mnemoc_> but i must fix the pacakge
04:16 < jsaw> (no time the next days, I set a link inside build env to get it to compile)
04:16 < mnemoc_> :-)
04:16 < mnemoc_> i'll fix it asap for your next build :P
04:17 < jsaw> hehe
04:17 < jsaw> btw, have to finish my installation and to switch the monitor -> me biaw
04:17 < jsaw> cu l8r
04:18 < mnemoc_> cu jsaw
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06:13 < owl> moin
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09:33 < owl> moin SMP 
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10:47 < blindcoder> moin
10:47 < owl> moin blindy
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13:31 < mnemoc> moin
13:31 < blindcoder> moin moin
13:32 < mnemoc> good day commander
13:32 < blindcoder> ?
13:33 < mnemoc> it's from a game which i don't remember the name :\
13:34 < blindcoder> i c
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15:35 < mnemoc> hi rolla
15:35 < mnemoc> too late :\
15:37 < daja77> moin
15:41 < netrunne1> HAHAHA
15:41 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner
15:42 < daja77> what's so funny
15:42 < netrunner> building my customized target on the epia itself works as expected (no cmov, binaries work)
15:42 * netrunner is at his mom's house following a support cry and sshed home to check his build :)
15:43 < daja77> hehe
15:43 < daja77> support cry, nice 
16:01 < netrunner> hm, at lest the epia is also a 1ghz ... gcc3 takes 20 minutes, so the build will be there this week.
16:04 < mnemoc> netrunner: what was the size thing?
16:04 < mnemoc> (moin daja77, netrunner)
16:04 < daja77> hi mnemoc 
16:05 < netrunner> mnemoc: jup. the binaries my athlon compiled (with patched gcc) were boken, whereas compiling them on the epia works.
16:06 < daja77> .oO (gcc sucks ,..)
16:06 < daja77> https://www.tu-chemnitz.de/studium/angebotdb/index.php3?id=2008&pure=1&long=2&show=Details
16:06 < daja77> no comment
16:07 < netrunner> jup. especially since I read their ~ comments on the epia case.
16:07 < netrunner> 'no, we won't fix our misbehaviour, just use a lower march=... '
16:08 < daja77> ah yes
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16:29 < holyolli> moin
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16:31 < daja77> wb
16:31 < holyolli> hi daja77, mnemoc
16:31 < mnemoc> hi holyolli 
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16:38 < blindcoder> hi
16:39 < holyolli> hi blindcoder
16:39 < mnemoc> hi blindcoder 
16:40 < blindcoder> daja77: they don't really expect to get _any_ response at all, do they?
16:42 < daja77> i guess they expect response, for whatever reason
16:45 < rolla> hallo all
16:46 < holyolli> hi rolla
16:46 < mnemoc> who?
16:55 < daja77> the ppl who created that ad i posted
16:58 < rxr> re
16:58 < daja77> wb
16:58 < blindcoder> moin rxr
17:05 < blindcoder> looks like lvp 0.3.0 finally works ^_^
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17:11 < blindcoder> hmm... mplayer seems broken under some circumstances...
17:14 < mnemoc> hi rxr
17:14 < mnemoc> blindcoder: what compression rate did you get with upx?
17:14 < blindcoder> between 39% (X) and 56% (something else :)
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17:15 < blindcoder> that is, from 100% compressed to 39% and 56%
17:15 < mnemoc> final size?
17:15 < mnemoc> (of lvp)
17:15 < blindcoder> 25MB
17:16 < mnemoc> i thought you had around 28 without compression :\
17:16 < blindcoder> 42
17:17 < blindcoder> those 28 were without the X-Fonts and some other stuff I just... forget
17:17 < blindcoder> s/forget/forgot/
17:17 < blindcoder> btw. we should make the ROCK scripts complain if diffutils is not part of a target
17:17 < mnemoc> hm? why??
17:18 < blindcoder> because xfind.sh need cmp (from diffutils) inside the chroot and just idles if it is not there
17:18 < blindcoder> no errormessage, no nothing
17:18 < blindcoder> just sits there
17:19 < mnemoc> i guess teach xfind.sh to scream is better 
17:19 < blindcoder> that's what I meant
17:19 < blindcoder> I have a bunch of pending patches that I stumbled over during lvp work here
17:20 < blindcoder> will commit them once I'm sure they work as expected
17:20 < mnemoc> are all of them as ugly as upx's?
17:20 < blindcoder> ehm... *hides in a dark corner8
17:20 < blindcoder> no :)
17:22 < mnemoc> :)
17:22 < blindcoder> for example a fix for fmnewpackage.sh >_<
17:22 < blindcoder> I made a mistake with the state (Alpha Beta Stable) detection
17:23 < mnemoc> what about the fm's redirect on project's url?
17:23 < mnemoc> can you follow it and catch the realone?
17:23 < blindcoder> that seems to hawe changed only recently...
17:23 < blindcoder> well, I'm quite sure I can
17:24 < mnemoc> with 'can' meant 'time restriction' not hardware problem ;)
17:25 < blindcoder> I'm sitting at home all day, so that shouldn't impose a problem
17:25 < mnemoc> =)
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17:31 < blindcoder> but regarding patches it seems that rene is overworked atm ;/
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17:45 < blindcoder> hi donkey
17:45 < capchaos> hi blindy
17:45 < mnemoc> ehm...
17:47 < daja77> cap!
17:47 < capchaos> daja!
18:05 < mnemoc> www.apache.org down?
18:08 < rolla> weird
18:11 < mnemoc> rolla: how can i set a virtualhost to redirect / to /foo/far.cgi ?
18:11 < mnemoc> without looping :\
18:11 < rolla> hmm
18:11 < blindcoder> mod_rewrite
18:11 < blindcoder> rewriteengine on
18:11 < blindcoder> rewriterule ^/$ https://bla/foo/far.cgi [R]
18:12 < rolla> blindcoder: has mad apache skills :)
18:12 < mnemoc> :)
18:12 < blindcoder> well, I've seen and administered the probably strangest apache-config for 1.5 yrs at Siemens... you learn a trick or two there :)
18:12 < mnemoc> can i skip the https://bla ?
18:12 < blindcoder> no
18:13 < mnemoc> ok
18:13 < rolla> blindcoder: yeah I have been admin apache since 1999 :)
18:13 < blindcoder> rolla: so you feel my pain :)
18:13 < rolla> I like apache
18:13 < rolla> better than IIS
18:13 < blindcoder> The good thing about mod_rewrite is that it gives you all the flexibility and configurability of sendmail.
18:14 < blindcoder> I never did anything on IIS
18:14 < rolla> be happy
18:14 < rolla> the logs are crap
18:14 < blindcoder> although we had some of those at siemens, I just said "no idea" and left it to someone else ;D
18:14 < rolla> :)
18:14 < mnemoc> can i replace blah with something which means the servername used to get there?
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18:14 < blindcoder> that's what it means :)
18:15 < mnemoc> the virtualhost has aliases
18:15 < mnemoc> i want to preserve it on the rewrite
18:16 < blindcoder> those are honored for mod_rewrite
18:16 < blindcoder> it just sends a 302 - Moved to the browser in case of [R]
18:17 < mnemoc> i mean... if i write staticly bla on the rule, it should use always bla. it's static
18:17 < blindcoder> it does
18:17 < mnemoc> servername bla; serveralias foo bar;
18:18 < blindcoder> ah, now I see
18:18 < mnemoc> :)
18:18 < mnemoc> let the code speak ;)
18:19 < blindcoder> you can use RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST}       ^bchat\.bingo-ev\.de$   [NC]
18:19 < blindcoder> to just work on one hostname
18:19 < blindcoder> I'm not quite sure if you can use %{HTTP_HOST} in RewriteRule's, though...
18:20 < blindcoder> I think the easiest would probably be to put a index.html there with a meta-refresh
18:20 < blindcoder> that would also put the work off of your machine and onto the client (distributed computing :)
18:21 < mnemoc> i'm using that currently ;) i wanted to do some more 'professional' 
18:21 < blindcoder> well, worst case you can always to several RewriteCond and RewriteRule combinations...
18:21 < mnemoc> btw, apache.org is back online
18:22 < blindcoder> good, there's is a fairly good url-rewriting-guide there
18:22 < blindcoder> there should be explained if you can use rewrites without https://servername (I never tried...) or ${HTTP_HOST} in the target
18:28 < mnemoc> ehm... mod_rewrite should exist as a .so? how do i enable it :'(
18:28 * mnemoc is a damn apacha newbie :(
18:28 < daja77> mod_rewrite is evil
18:29 < daja77> ok bye for now
18:29 < blindcoder> RewriteEngine on
18:29 < mnemoc> wait...
18:29 < blindcoder> and then just your RewriteRule
18:30 < mnemoc> # /opt/apache/bin/httpd -S
18:30 < mnemoc> Syntax error on line 12 of /etc/opt/apache/hosts/00-webmail.conf:
18:30 < mnemoc> Invalid command 'RewriteEngine', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration
18:30 < mnemoc> shit... my wife will kill me... gotta go to lunch... bbl (1hr)
18:31 < blindcoder> bye
18:31 < blindcoder> mnemoc: I have it compiled directly into httpd (output of httpd -l contains mod_rewrite.c), so you'll have to recompile your apache
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18:57 < blindcoder> WEE! IT WORKS! IT WORKS!!! WEEEEEE!
18:59 < blindcoder> mnemoc:   26156248 ->  11946438   45.67%                 [ 20 files ]
19:06 < blindcoder> dammit, another comb damaged...
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19:54 < holyolli> re
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20:09 < rolla> yawn
20:22 < daja77> re
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20:59 < nezcaz> moin
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21:06 * rolla is now playing with mysql
21:09 < mnemoc> rolla: query :-)
21:11 < mnemoc> blindcoder: ? :-(
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22:26 < daja77> is building with tmpfs a good idea?
22:31 < mnemoc> if you HAVE ram sure it is
22:35 < daja77> 512mb + 2gb swap should be  enough for router target
22:37 < mnemoc> build to swap is not much better than build to ext3 ;)
22:49 < rolla> yeah
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23:07 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
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23:14 < mnemoc> rolla: still here?
23:18 < mnemoc> hi blindcoder :-)
23:19 < netrunner> n8 ;)
23:20 < daja77> n8 netrunner 
23:21 < mnemoc> n8 netrunner 
23:21 < mnemoc> hi daja77 
23:22 < daja77> huh?
23:22 < mnemoc> ignore me :\
23:23 < daja77> don't worry
23:27 -!- schrd [~schrd@froeschi.csn.tu-chemnitz.de] has joined #rocklinux
23:27 < schrd> hi
23:27 < daja77> hi schrd 
23:27 < schrd> i did a svn checkout a few minutes ago, and glibc fails to build in stage 0
23:27 < daja77> mnemoc: do you know that glibc is broken again?
23:27 < mnemoc> wtf?
23:27 < schrd> should i paste the console output?
23:28 < mnemoc> i build a clean one yesterday
23:29 < blindcoder> schrd: oehm... which glibc?
23:29 < blindcoder> I just built one fine today
23:29 < daja77> default
23:29 < schrd> == 22:51:23 =[0]=> Building base/glibc23 [2.3.2 2.0.0-rc5].
23:29 < mnemoc> tail -30 build/$build/root/var/adm/logs/0-glibc23 to QUERY!
23:30 < mnemoc> please ;)
23:31 < daja77> *gnarf*
23:31 < daja77> == 01/26/04 20:12:32 =[5]=> Package gnupod-perlmods does not exist.
23:31 < daja77> Package build ended abnormally!
23:31 < daja77> !> Usually a package build creates eighter a *.log
23:31 < daja77> !> or a *.err file. Neither the 1st nor the 2nd is
23:31 < daja77> !> there. So I'm going to create a *.err file now
23:31 < daja77> !> and abort the build process.
23:31 < daja77> the whole build stopped *grml*
23:32 < mnemoc> err...
23:32 < mnemoc> df ?
23:33 < daja77> df?
23:33 < mnemoc>  sh: dl-open.c:395:
23:33 < mnemoc>           dl_open_worker: Assertion `new->l_searchlist.r_list[i]->l_type == lt_loaded' failed.
23:33 < mnemoc> what the hell??
23:33 < mnemoc> (from schrd output)
23:34 * daja77 should check commit mails
23:34 < mnemoc> daja77: i didn't saw he "Package $foo does not exist."
23:34 < schrd> i could svn up again, if there were commits in between
23:35 < daja77> which rev do you have?
23:35 < schrd> how do i find out? ;-)
23:35 < daja77> svn info
23:35 < mnemoc> grep revision .svn/entries
23:35 < mnemoc> :)
23:35 < daja77> mnemoc: ts
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23:36 < schrd> 2299
23:37 < blindcoder> 2288 built fine here
23:38 < blindcoder> schrd: what system are you building on?
23:38 < schrd> debian sarge
23:38 < daja77> couldn't find any hints that there have been changes to glibc packages since then
23:38 < mnemoc> gcc --version
23:39 < schrd> gcc (GCC) 3.3.2 (Debian)
23:40 < daja77> guess that's it
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23:40 < MadTux> moin.
23:40 < daja77> hi MadTux 
23:40 < MadTux> hi Daniel :)
23:40 < MadTux> wie gehts?
23:40 < daja77> ok thx
23:40 < daja77> and you?
23:41 < mnemoc> hi MadTux 
23:42 < mnemoc> blindcoder: if i add SuexecUserGroup every cgi gives me "command not in docroot
23:42 < mnemoc> "
23:42 < mnemoc> any idea?
23:42 < blindcoder> mnemoc: with the config posted earlier?
23:42 < blindcoder> moin MadTux 
23:43 < mnemoc> much simpler now
23:43 < daja77> mnemoc: what do you think, is gcc-3.3 to blame?
23:43 < schrd> mnemoc: is there any chance to get glibc built here?
23:43 < schrd> i do have 2.95.4 installed as well
23:43 < mnemoc> i use gcc33 only
23:43 < daja77> mnemoc: for stage 0 as well=
23:43 < mnemoc> yes :)
23:43 < daja77> damn
23:44 < MadTux> greetings mnemoc und blindy
23:44 < MadTux> daja77, I'm Good thanks for asking.
23:45 < daja77> schrd: which bash do you have?
23:45 < schrd> GNU bash, version 2.05b.0(1)-release (i386-pc-linux-gnu)
23:45 < daja77> this is good
23:46 < blindcoder> MadTux: how's life?
23:46 < blindcoder> mnemoc: can you post me that part?
23:49 < MadTux> blindy GREAT, thanks, there_
23:49 < MadTux> ?
23:49 < MadTux> blindcoder, haven't get that pkg yet though
23:50 < blindcoder> MadTux: better right now, thanks.
23:50 < blindcoder> Hmm... that's strange...
23:50 < blindcoder> maybe they haven't got enough mail to fly it to your island yet...
23:50 < blindcoder> or they can't let such dangerous weapons like linux be imported :)
23:53 < mnemoc> blindcoder: what owner/perms needs that cgi-bin dir?
23:53 < mnemoc> apache: www.www, vhost: omail.omail
23:54 < daja77> 3:45 <@blackout> hab ich was übersehen?
23:54 < daja77> 23:46 < daja77> ja
23:54 < daja77> 23:47 < pythonja> .oO(warum weiß daja was blacky übersieht?)
23:54 < daja77> 23:48 < daja77> pythonja: wenn etwas existiert, was er nicht gesehen hat, hat er es vermutlich übersehen, nicht?
23:54 < daja77> 23:49 < pythonja> *den versuch starte zu denken*
23:54 < daja77> 23:49 < pythonja> könnte hinhauen
23:54 < daja77> aaaaargh
23:54 < daja77> i should disable mouse
23:58 < schrd> hehe
23:59 < daja77> should i tell her that she is on public log now? *ggg*
23:59 < schrd> yes!!!
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