--- Log opened Fri Feb 06 00:00:01 2004
00:20 < mnemoc> *yawn*
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00:23 < mnemoc> Robin_Root: argentinian?
00:24 < mnemoc> (just curious)
00:24 < daja77> italian ^^
00:24 < mnemoc> weirdness of traceroute
00:24 < Robin_Root> italian :-)
00:25 < daja77> from milano :)
00:25 < mnemoc> hm... friends?
00:26 < daja77> we met before on irc :)
00:27 < mnemoc> talking of milano... what happened to 'alessandro'?
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00:27 < daja77> dunno
00:28 < mnemoc> batok: export TERM=xterm-color and try 'vi' again
00:34 < mnemoc> cat /proc/self > /dev/home
00:34 < mnemoc> bbl
00:37 < daja77> n8 you all
00:40 < batok> ok
00:41 < batok> I tried the vimrc from off X11 and vi was coloured as expected
00:43 < batok> Guys, I 've just created a script to "record" and X11 session, from an xterm window or from the entire screen, and such script generates a movie file i.e. an mpeg or swf.  I think this can be useful for demos and tutorials .
00:44 < batok> Soon is going to be able at my server...hope this helps
00:45 < batok> mnemoc I think the problem is with Konsole
00:48 < batok> mnemoc: is it export TERM="xterm -color" ?
00:50 < batok> how can one know if anybody is working in a package before it's published ?
00:51 < batok> is there a work-in-progress list or something ?
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01:59 < mnemoc> re
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07:48 < saskatoon> moin
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09:01 < Baldzius> moin
09:13 < Baldzius> drat, i have problems with cluster build
09:14 < Baldzius> master node starts , sais current status - waiting in the job queue
09:14 < Baldzius> in slave node i start Build-Job, don't get any errors and nothing happens on master node
09:16 < netrunner> Baldzius: are both working in the same directory?
09:17 < Baldzius> who's "both" ?
09:17 < Baldzius> i did everything as in cluster build doc
09:17 < netrunner> Build-Target and Build-Job
09:18 < Baldzius> sec
09:22 < netrunner> and is the Build-Job really running on the node?
09:22 < netrunner> hm, the master doesn't show any packages in the queue?
09:22 < Baldzius> no, it show's
09:23 < Baldzius> Job 0- linux24-header
09:23 < netrunner> ok fine. and the node uses the same directory?
09:23 < Baldzius> now yes
09:23 < Baldzius> same result
09:24 < Baldzius> or i messed smthg
09:24 < netrunner> does Build-Job say anything?  is it in your Process list (ps axf)
09:25 < netrunner> is the directory writeable for the node?
09:26 < Baldzius> i have 3 Build-Target processes 
09:26 < netrunner> I mean on the node
09:26 < Baldzius> one tee -a ........ .log
09:26 < Baldzius> oh
09:27 < Baldzius> no
09:27 < Baldzius> on master i exported mount rw
09:27 < Baldzius> is this not enough?
09:27 < netrunner> using what export service? nfs?
09:27 < Baldzius> yes
09:27 < netrunner> no_root_squash
09:28 < netrunner> otherwise root is squashed to nobody and you're not allowed to write
09:29 < Baldzius> ok , 'll try
09:44 < Baldzius> so now when i see two Build-Job processes on master 
09:44 < Baldzius> everything works?
09:44 < Baldzius> i have 2 slave nodes
10:01 < netrunner> Baldzius: the Build-Job processes should be running on the slaves.
10:01 < netrunner> (where you start them)
10:02 < netrunner> on the master there should be about 3 Build-Target processes
10:02 < Baldzius> master shows
10:03 < Baldzius> Build-Job
10:03 < Baldzius> Build-Job
10:03 < Baldzius> Job 0-linux24-headers         myslavenode
10:03 < Baldzius> so it works?
10:04 < netrunner> ah, this is from the queue? I was talking about processes 
10:04 < netrunner> in the queue it is ok, they registered and took a job from the queue.
10:04 < Baldzius> yeah it is from queue, master status window
10:04 < netrunner> ok fine then. but be prepared you'll get problems with all gnome stuff.
10:05 < Baldzius> i am compiling router target :)
10:05 < netrunner> ok then, have fun :)
10:05 < Baldzius> so also i can start Build-Job on master?
10:05 < netrunner> sure.
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10:06 < Baldzius> or this is not recommended
10:06 < Baldzius> i see
10:06 < Baldzius> ok then
10:06 < netrunner> that is what I do, since I use it for SMP
10:06 < Baldzius> thanks netrunner
10:06 < Baldzius> very much :)
10:06 < netrunner> np
10:06 < Baldzius> btw, last question
10:07 * netrunner hides
10:07 < Baldzius> i noticed there custom package selection
10:07 < Baldzius> oh well, maybe next time :)
10:07 < netrunner> no, just ask
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10:07 < netrunner> but be quick, I have to switch building.
10:08 < Baldzius> so i can romove unnecesary packages from target
10:08 < netrunner> jup
10:08 < Baldzius> but how
10:08 < Baldzius> can't find info
10:08 < Baldzius> there come smth like , preselection template
10:08 < netrunner> you can add rules. they are X for add and O for deselect, then a space and a pattern
10:09 < netrunner> eg X avm    to select all my packages
10:09 < netrunner> or O linux26 to select everything linux26*
10:09 < netrunner> s/26 to /26 to de/
10:09 < Baldzius> ok now i got it
10:09 < Baldzius> need to try
10:10 < Baldzius> thanx once more :)
10:10 < netrunner> or you use a prepared template like the minimal+X
10:10 * netrunner leaving now (before he finds something else ;)
10:11 < Baldzius> :)
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12:52 < daja77> noin
12:53 < daja77> moin
12:54 < Baldzius> hi
12:55 < daja77> hi Baldzius 
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13:03 < netrunner> moin daja77 
13:03 < daja77> moin netrunner :)
13:04 * netrunner curses sun. javaplugin doesn't work with a mozilla ocmpiled with gcc3x
13:08 < Baldzius> netrunner, sorry, have one question, what would happen if slave node die?
13:09 < netrunner> Baldzius: you'd have to burry it ;)
13:09 < netrunner> Baldzius: it's current package fails or hangs there, depending on _how_ it dies. 
13:10 < netrunner> Baldzius: if it dies gracefully, eg sighup to make so Build-Job can remove the lock on the job, it creates a failed package (.err in the log)
13:10 < netrunner> Baldzius: then you can reschedule it with scripts/Create-Errlist -cfg blubb -delete failedpkg
13:11 < Baldzius> as i understood, scheduler compiles different packages on different nodes
13:11 < netrunner> Baldzius: if you just switch out the power of a node, the lockfile in build/blubb/queue will probably remain, and has to be deleted manually
13:11 < netrunner> jup
13:11 < Baldzius> not just one package on all nodes
13:11 < Baldzius> ?
13:11 < netrunner> jup
13:11 < Baldzius> i see
13:12 < netrunner> but the package on the node that dies is problematic, it won't automatically be rescheduled.
13:13 * netrunner downloading blackdown java
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13:24 < [anders]> narf
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13:25 < mnemoc> moin
13:25 < [anders]> lo mnemoc
13:26 < [anders]> where's Miguel hiding out today then? 
13:26 < mnemoc> he is performing 'the busy boy' these days
13:27 < daja77> hehe
13:27 < mnemoc> hi daja77, [anders] 
13:27 < [anders]> as I have been you mean mnemoc? Ages since I dropped in here..
13:28 < [anders]> Just have had a little too much to do..
13:28 < daja77> hi [anders] 
13:28 < daja77> ho mnemoc 
13:28 < [anders]> lo daja77
13:28 < daja77> he was here yesterday a few hours
13:29 < [anders]> noticed he has an account at orkut...
13:29 < [anders]> messaged him there.
13:29 < mnemoc> [anders] .oO( Mike1 is more on MSN than IRC now )
13:30 < [anders]> mnemoc: out of principle I will not get an MSN account
13:30 < [anders]> AIM is as far as I'll go
13:30 < [anders]> :)
13:30 < mnemoc> =)
13:30 < mnemoc> anders@hotmail.com :P
13:30 < daja77> [anders]: you are there too?
13:31 < [anders]> daja77: on orkut? yeah
13:31 < daja77> cool we should meet there
13:31 < [anders]> :) I am member of the rock forum, so add me from there if you like. :)
13:33 < daja77> done :)
13:33 < [anders]> :)
13:33 < [anders]> done
13:33 < [anders]> :)
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13:34 < daja77> cool
13:34 < mnemoc> daja77: http://www.orkut.com/Community.aspx?cmm=10569
13:35 < daja77> yeah
13:36 < daja77> and i know this guy
13:36 < mnemoc> you are not there :)
13:36 < daja77> not yet
13:44 < [anders]> Mmm.. invited some friends to join orkut...
13:44 < netrunner> [anders]: what's your rn? 
13:44 < [anders]> Anders Karlsson
13:44 < [anders]> netrunner: yours?
13:44 < netrunner> ah, parser was lossy ;)
13:45 < [anders]> hehe
13:45 < [anders]> Andreas something..
13:45 < daja77> Andreas T. Kirk
13:46 < [anders]> lol
13:46 < netrunner> [anders]: request sent ;)
13:46 < [anders]> aah.. heh
13:46 < [anders]> actioned. :)
13:47 < netrunner> anybody knows how I can calculate utm->wgs84 ?
13:47 < [anders]> owl: *poke*
13:47 < [anders]> owl: get a picture into your profile on orkut...
13:47 < [anders]> :)
14:03 < mnemoc> anyone knows when rxr will resurrect?
14:03 < daja77> nope
14:04 < mnemoc> :(
14:06 < netrunner> oh http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/35375.html
14:07 < daja77> http://www.thingsmygirlfriendandihavearguedabout.com/
14:10 < daja77> who discusses business plans there
14:11 < netrunner> daja77, yes I know ... " She really over-reacts whenever she catches me wearing her underwear.
14:12 < daja77> hehe
14:12 < mnemoc> netrunner: "We're assured that because Orkut runs on Microsoft® Windows., there will be no security issues. Good choice"
14:12 < daja77> O_o
14:13 < netrunner> mnemoc: hehe
14:14 < mnemoc> they can move to mod_mono :)
14:18 < mnemoc> daja77: nice girl this margret o_O
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14:25 < MadTux> moin.
14:25 < mnemoc> <[anders]> where's Miguel hiding out today then?
14:25 < mnemoc> moin MadTux 
14:26 < MadTux> [anders], still awake?
14:26 < MadTux> moin mnemocy :)
14:26 < daja77> hey MadTux 
14:26 < MadTux> hello daja77
14:29 < daja77> how are you?
14:30 < MadTux> good, happy, and not that overloaded with work today :)
14:30 < MadTux> u ?
14:31 < daja77> i am ok, bit tired as always ^^
14:35 < MadTux> thats because u sleep too much
14:35 < daja77> i havent the last few days
14:37 < mnemoc> u dream to sleep too much when you are awake
14:37 < daja77> yeah
14:39 < cytrinox`-> moin
14:39 < mnemoc> moin cytrinox
14:42 < MadTux> daja77, tiene suenos mojados con mnemoc
14:42 < MadTux> *GGG*
14:42 < daja77> you what
14:48 < rolla> re
14:50 < daja77> wb rolla
14:51 < rolla> thanks
14:55 < mnemoc> MadTux: why don't you say that in english? :)
14:56 < daja77> so that i don't know it
14:56 < daja77> i could kick him anyway
14:56 < [anders]> MadTux: yeh
14:56 < mnemoc> best choice
14:56 * daja77 kicks MadTux 
14:56 < rolla> :)
14:56 < [anders]> lo rolla
14:56 * rolla allways likes to see a good kicking
14:57 * mnemoc kicks rolla for fun
14:57 * daja77 kicks MadTux again to please rolla 
14:59 < mnemoc> to please rolla or to please yourself?
14:59 < daja77> we both have fun
15:00 < rolla> :)
15:04 < mnemoc> .oO( rolla and daja77 having 'fun' kicking each other... mmm )
15:04 < daja77> no we had fun kicking mike, wanna join?
15:05 < mnemoc> yeahh... /me kicks BusyTux
15:07 < mnemoc> (which number of fstab is mount order, 1st or second?)
15:09 < mnemoc> 1st
15:09 < mnemoc> no... second :|
15:15 < rolla> theater% uptime
15:15 < rolla>   8:03am  up 436 day(s), 18:31,  1 user,  load average: 0.03, 0.01, 0.02
15:15 < SMP> that's nothing :>
15:16 < daja77> hi SMP 
15:16 < rolla> well show me then big boy
15:16 < rolla> ;)
15:17 < daja77> omg i accidently hit the openoffice button in knoppix
15:18 < rolla> ;)
15:18 < mnemoc> daja77: now you can go to sleep for a while
15:18 < rolla> http://www.cafeshops.com/bartlettpublish.8640017
15:19 < rolla> now there is a cool book
15:19 < daja77> :))
15:21 < SMP> I have a machine with 1247 days uptime
15:21 < rolla> SMP: show me the uptime
15:21 < SMP> has a 486 cpu, running SuSE 4.x, no network, no root password
15:22 < SMP> uptime 253 days
15:22 < SMP> +497
15:22 < SMP> +497
15:22 < rolla> ;)
15:22 < daja77> what it is running for?
15:22 < SMP> daja77: fun
15:22 < daja77> hehe
15:22 < daja77> to get the uptime highscore
15:22 < rolla> yeah no network != fun
15:24 < mnemoc> it's just plugged to electricity o_O
15:24 < saskatoon> hi daja77
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15:35 < rolla> yawn
15:36 < mnemoc> *reyawn*
15:37 < rolla> :)
15:37 < rolla> mnemoc: is that apache server working for you now?
15:39 < mnemoc> without suexec
15:39 < rolla> :)
15:40 < mnemoc> not funny :(
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15:44 < rolla> why not funny
15:49 < mnemoc> :(
15:49 < mnemoc> a typo on glibc.conf =)   contopt="${confopt% --target=*}"
15:51 * mnemoc fears to fix it
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16:09 < rolla> windows mailservers suck
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16:11 < daja77> windows server suck in general
16:12 < mnemoc> rolla: exchange?
16:13 < daja77> http://www.jasonlove.com/snaps-tr/snap01293.gif
16:15 < mnemoc> lol
16:16 < mnemoc> daja77: do u think i should fix glibc.conf typo? (ref: now-25min)
16:16 < MadTux> re
16:16 < MadTux> ping rolla
16:17 < mnemoc> MS.Hit would be a great product name
16:20 * MadTux grabs his base bat and hits mnemoc and daja77 in their testicules several times
16:20 < mnemoc> outch :(
16:20 < MadTux> thats what u get for kicking me when i can't defend my self
16:21 * daja77 kicks MadTux just because
16:21 * MadTux hits mnemoc again.. doing outch to me little slut
16:21 * MadTux drops laying-on-the-floor-mnemoc to daja77
16:21 * mnemoc jumps over MadTux bitting his face
16:22 * MadTux gets his sword.. stay back !
16:22 < MadTux> brb
16:22 < mnemoc> hm? :\
16:24 < daja77> pffff this pink plastic sword, i fear
16:25 < MadTux> i'm not using owl's sword daja77
16:25 < MadTux> :)
16:26 < daja77> it was your birthday present from her
16:33 < rolla> mnemoc: yes
16:34 < rolla> :)
16:34 < daja77> mnemoc: i dont see the typo, blind i guess
16:34 < mnemoc> contopt="${confopt% --target=*}"
16:35 < daja77> ah i see
16:35 < daja77> sure, fix it
16:36 * mnemoc fears the world stop moving after that
16:37 < rolla> MadTux: ? you here
16:38 < mnemoc> he is painting his pink plastic sword
16:38 < daja77> hehe
16:40 < MadTux> rolla, semi present a bit busy, see query
16:41 < daja77> hey busy bit
16:49 < mnemoc> he is too pussy to talk to us
16:49 < mnemoc> s/pus/bu/g sorry
16:50 < esdentem> hi all
16:50 < daja77> hi esden
16:50 < daja77> mnemoc: why correcting your self you were perfectly right
16:51 < esdentem> I read the Stable Release topic ... I am really missing a comment from Mr. rxr badly
16:51 < daja77> think he hasn't joined yet
16:51 < esdentem> *sigh*
16:52 < esdentem> who has invited him?
16:52 < MadTux> yeah he hasnt
16:52 < MadTux> i invited him
16:52 < esdentem> hrrm
16:52 < MadTux> god bless u esdy btw
16:52 < mnemoc> have you seen him *here*?
16:52 < esdentem> bless you too mnemoc 
16:52 < daja77> mnemoc: yep two days ago
16:55 < mnemoc> i guess clt is our last chance, big location in front of big projects
16:57 < daja77> somebody into fixing base packages btw?
16:57 < MadTux> what happened?
16:58 < daja77> several base packages are broken
16:58 * mnemoc is waiting for rxr new i2c patch
16:58 < mnemoc> life was easier when we used a third-party patch
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16:59 < esdentem> it is really funny about the stable release ... we wanted over a year ago ... didn't we?
17:02 < mnemoc> as i said in my post, we *must* release *something*
17:03 < mnemoc> we keep moving, updating, growing... but we need to freeze to make it converge to an stable release
17:04 < esdentem> mnemoc: my words!
17:04 < esdentem> there was a real fight during the 1.6 times about that
17:04 < esdentem> and now the same happens ...
17:05 < mnemoc> without a roadmap we can't do something better :|
17:05 < mnemoc> we don't *know* what we want
17:06 < esdentem> there are guidelines about what should happen ... during the freeze there must not be any updates that are unnessesary ... but there are changing interpretations of what is importaint
17:07 < esdentem> we are in freeze since a long time ... at least it is what it is called ...
17:07 < esdentem> but still there are things that are being added and updated all the time
17:07 < rolla> crazy
17:07 < esdentem> like kde for example ...
17:08 < mnemoc> it seems we are waiting for a '100% updated - 100% succesful build - 100% archs' moment for release
17:10 < esdentem> mnemoc: yes that seems so
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17:12 < mnemoc> 1. froze mayor updates 2. choose core archs. 3. build bootdisk, minimal and desktop
17:13 < daja77> mnemoc: fix some packages before that ^^
17:13 < mnemoc> that's between 2 and 3
17:14 < mnemoc> i mean... inside 3
17:14 < esdentem> but during that time ... NO package should be updatet
17:15 < daja77> why, when the update fixes the package
17:15 < esdentem> not even if it is fixing something ... it should be only a backport patch if it is fixing something
17:15 < esdentem> only that one thing
17:15 < mnemoc> minor updates can be needed e.g. 3.1.n to 3.1.(n+1)
17:15 < esdentem> because it is very possible that the update will break something else
17:15 < daja77> yeah sure cos backporting is that much faster
17:16 < esdentem> daja77: but we are doing that all the time ... "that will be faster if we update that package" and then another problem emerges
17:16 < mnemoc> true
17:17 < daja77> could be the same with backports
17:18 < mnemoc> backport only when it's a must-do
17:18 < esdentem> and another thing ... we have to throw packages and targets out that are not fixed till the deadline ... if they are not real showstopping packages
17:18 < mnemoc> but 'try it at home' before sending the damn patch
17:18 < esdentem> just like debian does it
17:18 < mnemoc> that's why i don't like svn... it's branches sucks
17:18 < daja77> debian does no releases either
17:19 < esdentem> daja77: they do ... every two years or so ... that is more then we do in fact
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17:19 < daja77> but their releases are crap
17:19 < esdentem> not that I like debian ... but you have to admit that it is correct 
17:19 < daja77> so no better
17:20 < esdentem> daja77: are ours better?
17:20 < mnemoc> they have something to show on events
17:20 < daja77> esdentem: yes
17:20 < daja77> mnemoc: woody, are you kidding
17:20 < mnemoc> it's *something*
17:20 < daja77> well i showed around beta6, was fine either and much better than woody
17:21 < esdentem> then we have to do it better ... but releasing nothing is not better ...
17:21 < saskatoon> hope so
17:21 < mnemoc> i have never been in a *lt or a ccc*, but does ppl still belive our promises?
17:22 < daja77> mnemoc: havent heard something really negative
17:22 < daja77> and btw it is just that we call sth stable
17:22 < daja77> which is more or less for a whike
17:22 < mnemoc> let's freeze and label it 'stable'
17:23 < esdentem> even the kernel is not really stable when the stable release is being released ... it needs 10 minor versions to get really stable ...
17:23 < mnemoc> btw... we are the 'toolkit' nor the 'targets', and the toolkit is stable from looong time ago
17:23 < esdentem> why not do the same with rock?
17:24 < esdentem> mnemoc: I have not thaught that way ... but you are right
17:24 < mnemoc> 2.0.0 i386/ppc bootdisk and minimal... *nothing*else
17:24 < daja77> iirc rxr said he is into releasing stable before he moved
17:25 < mnemoc> he promised to fix i2c on dicember, and he is playing kde
17:25 < mnemoc> i have no idea how to fix it
17:26 < mnemoc> i have tryed mnay time, but i'm absolutly lost
17:26 < daja77> you know sometimes ppl have other things to do than to work on rock
17:26 < mnemoc> i know... i'm talking about 'focus'
17:27 < mnemoc> and if you have only one person with write access..... blah blah blah
17:27 < daja77> well rxr has lots of beginner users around him, me too btw, so kde focus is not that bad
17:27 < daja77> this is a rock specific thing
17:27 < daja77> we could change that 
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17:33 < mnemoc> daja77: we want to change that write-policy, but our owner don't
17:33 < daja77> i know
17:37 < MadTux> yawn
17:37 < daja77> *blam*
17:38 < MadTux> esdentem san?
17:46 < esdentem> MadTux: ?
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17:59 < darix> hi
17:59 < darix> small suggestion: 
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18:00 < mnemoc> kill ourselves?
18:00 < darix> better uses "chown user:group" instead of "chown user.group" on some linux versions "." is not supported as delimiter
18:00 < darix> :)
18:00 < mnemoc> daja77: send a patch to submaster :)
18:01 < esdentem> darix: you mean unix versions don't you?
18:01 < mnemoc> ehr.... darix
18:01 < darix> esdentem: no i dont mean.
18:01 < daja77> mnemoc: hm?
18:01 < mnemoc> d<tab> :(
18:02 < daja77> ah k.
18:02 < darix> esdentem: we are crosscompile rocklinux for x86_32 on gentoo x86_64. and it complains about "chown root.root" unknown user. 
18:02 < daja77> ah yes
18:02 < darix> esdentem: and of course you should fix "head" usage to "head -n <count>" instead of "head -<count>"
18:03 < darix> perl -pi -e 's/(head )-(\d+)/${1}-n $2/g' scripts/*
18:03 < darix> as quickfix :)
18:03 < mnemoc> darix: if you already fix it send the patch to submaster :)
18:04 < darix> the chown isnt this simple as some package configs call chown directly instead using the function from scripts/functions
18:04 < darix> mnemoc: it would be easier for one of you to run my perl line and submit directly.
18:04 < darix> wouldnt it?
18:04 < mnemoc> if i could submit...
18:05 < darix> [chown] and of course they all call it with a different style. some "chown root.root" "chown -R 0.0" and more :)
18:06 < darix> hmm looks like my perl script worked for my coworker too :)
18:06 < darix> the chown thingie. just overlooked one call with -R root.root o.O
18:07 < mnemoc> darix: quick fix, add a chown scripts in tools.cross/bin to call real chown with s/./:/g for the args
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18:08 < darix> grep -rl chown . | grep -v .svn | xargs --no-run-if-empty perl -pi -e 's/chown(.*?)(root|0)\./chown$1$2:/g'
18:08 < darix> thats should fix the chown thingie :)
18:08 < darix> *tests it in his wc*
18:10 < mnemoc> that would solve '.' calls inside packages
18:10 < mnemoc> wont even
18:10 < mnemoc> aaaaaa..a
18:11 * mnemoc needs coffee
18:11 < mnemoc> brb
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18:11 < darix> mnemoc: thats what i want :)
18:19 < darix> esdentem: will you apply my perl oneliner and commit it?:)
18:21 < mnemoc> darix: we only can submit patches to submaster and wait for aproval
18:22 < darix> i just verify the chown stuff 
18:22 < darix> maybe ill svn diff the stuff than :)
18:23 < mnemoc> much better :)
18:23 < darix> it takes ages to grep the whole trunk 
18:24 < mnemoc> grep the download/ is not wise
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18:25 < MadTux> re
18:25 < mnemoc> rekick MadTux 
18:26 < darix> mnemoc: my WC is a plain checkout
18:26 < darix> no builds made from it 
18:26 < MadTux> :)
18:26 < mnemoc> real    0m26.514s
18:26 < mnemoc> user    0m0.230s
18:26 < mnemoc> sys     0m1.820s
18:27 < mnemoc> not too much :)
18:27 < darix> http://monsters.rsn.uni-rostock.de/~darix/chown+head.diff
18:28 < mnemoc> darix: shouldn't 'tail' get the same fix?
18:29 < darix> *checks*
18:29 < darix> mnemoc: no problem :)
18:30 < mnemoc> great.... now you join http://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/smadm.cgi and submit the patch
18:30 < mnemoc> and wait, and wait, and wait....
18:30 < darix> lol 
18:30 < darix> found a bug in my patch ;)
18:31 < darix> mnemoc: if i have to signup no way. i always forget credential
18:32 < mnemoc> it's a three <input>s form
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18:34 < darix> we are waiting for all further bugs we find :)
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18:36 < darix> call of expand is mixed too 
18:40 < mnemoc> i thought we only used tr :\
18:40 < darix> mnemoc: no you dont 
18:40 < darix> sometimes you use expand -20
18:40 < darix> and it complains
18:40 < darix> :)
18:40 < darix> perl -pi -e 's/(expand )-(\d+)/${1}-t$2/g' *
18:40 < darix> i like perl :)
18:43 < mnemoc> lunch time.... bbl
18:45 < rolla> bye
18:45 < rolla> orkut emails are slow
18:46 < darix> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/0-gcc3-cross.out
18:46 < darix> !> /tmp/ccFIfHki.s:60: Error: suffix or operands invalid fo ..
18:46 < darix> !> /tmp/ccFIfHki.s:78: Error: suffix or operands invalid fo ..
18:46 < darix> !> /tmp/ccFIfHki.s:84: Error: suffix or operands invalid fo ..
18:46 < darix> !> /tmp/ccFIfHki.s:85: Internal error, aborting at config/t ..
18:46 < darix> !> Please report this bug.
18:46 < darix> !> make: *** [crtbegin.o] Error 1
18:46 < darix> o.O
18:47 * darix pokes esdentem and clifford
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18:54 < darix> we found it *think* waiting for the 2 first stages again =)
19:06 < darix> anyone tried to crosscompile for "i586-pc-linux-gnu" on amd64?
19:06 < daja77> <- not
19:07 < darix> according to the log it tries to compile stuff for 32bit but the compiler thinks it should be 64 bit
19:16 < mnemoc> darix: why are you building gcc3-cross?
19:25 < darix> mnemoc: it was his decision. not mine. i just ask :) we started without now :)
19:40 < darix> http://monsters.rsn.uni-rostock.de/~darix/build.txt
19:46 < rolla> re
19:50 < darix> re rolla 
19:51 < mnemoc> darix: what are build building (arch)? 
19:51 < mnemoc> s/build/you/1
19:52 < mnemoc> :|
19:53 < blindcoder> moin
19:53 < mnemoc> moin blindcoder 
19:53 < mnemoc> bbl
19:54 < MadTux> blindy-sam
19:54 < blindcoder> mad-chaaaan!
19:55 < MadTux> I'm honored to see you here.
19:55 * MadTux having lunch bbl
19:56 < rolla> bye
19:57 < darix> mnemoc: building on amd64 (x86_64) for via-c3 (i586)
19:58 < mnemoc> i don't remember if cmov patch was applied
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19:59 < blindcoder> dammit... I need to split my ROCK Inbox...
19:59 < mnemoc> if not, you can't build c3 as >=586
19:59 < mnemoc> netrruner was playing with that iirc
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20:03 * blindcoder bugging rxr for a svn rep
20:04 < mnemoc> =)
20:04 < darix> mnemoc: url to the patch? :)
20:05 < mnemoc> i don't see it in submaster, ask netrunner
20:05 < mnemoc> gotta go
20:06 < darix> netrunner: *pokes*
20:06 < darix> cya and thanks mnemoc 
20:06 < mnemoc> u r welcome :)
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20:47 < A-Tui> hi
20:50 < rolla> re
20:55 < MadTux> Aitor
20:55 < MadTux> rolla, 
20:56 < A-Tui> hola MadTux, how are u?
20:56 < rolla> ja
20:58 < blindcoder> re maddy ^_^
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21:07 -!- Lorini [~Andrea@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has quit ("Angels are bright still, though the brightest fell.")
21:13 < mnemoc> re
21:14 < MadTux> blindy
21:14 < MadTux> wb mnemoc
21:14 < saskatoon> re
21:14 < mnemoc> thx MadTux
21:14 < mnemoc> rw saskatoon 
21:15 < mnemoc> re*
21:15 < saskatoon> sorry, morning
21:17 < MadTux> Fri Feb  6 14:11:40 CST 2004 .... mourning..
21:18 < mnemoc> saskatoon: hm?
21:18 < mnemoc> why sorry?
21:19 < MadTux> saskatoon, nothing to be sorry  for :)
21:19 < MadTux> .o0( mnemoc is the only mortal that has to be sorry )
21:20 < rolla> ;)
21:20 < mnemoc> .oO( how can i by the only mortal that.... if i'm not mortal? )
21:21 < mnemoc> hi rolla
21:25 * rolla is bored
21:29 * mnemoc kicks rolla once
21:29 * mnemoc kicks rolla again
21:29 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD9E4F988.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
21:29 < MadTux> .o0( Murder is not the solutions... is the Goal )
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21:30 < mnemoc> .oO( that tux is loosing his sanity )
21:32 -!- ringo [~ringo@co116627-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has joined #rocklinux
21:34 < MadTux> mnemoc, wtf is sanity?
21:34 < mnemoc> you would never understand
21:36 < mnemoc> it's a matter of faith.. to have half pizza there must exist a complete one
21:37 * mnemoc 's pizza portion is near 'bush and blair for novel of peace' level :|
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21:50 < ringo> where can i get a boot floppy image ? I can see only iso's.
21:53 < mnemoc> uhm.... from inside isos
21:54 < ringo> ok found an old one 1.6.0 ;)
21:55 < ringo> I use it to boot a box with 1.5.12
21:55 * A-Tui is away: cenando... que ya es hora...
21:56 < MadTux> hi ringo!!!!!!!!!!!1
21:56 < MadTux> ringo 1.6 rulez :)
21:58 * mnemoc fears the future
21:58 < ringo> MadTux: why no more Mike1 ? 
21:59 < mnemoc> ssshhh... he is hiding of NSA
22:00 < ringo> he should utelize some proxy then :)
22:00 < mnemoc> he is not that smart :(
22:01 < esdentem> strange ... packages are reporting errors even if there is no error in the logs ...
22:02 < mnemoc> $?
22:04 < mnemoc> XTRACE mode now shows $?
22:05 < MadTux> mnemoc, people like ringo and i are not smart.. we are on a higher level... 
22:05 < MadTux> mnemoc, we know everything.
22:05 < MadTux> ringo, i just liked this nick better
22:06 < ringo> ok,  was looking for a most wanted list on nsa.gov ;)
22:07 < mnemoc> lol
22:08 * blindcoder --> bed
22:09 < mnemoc> n8 blindcoder
22:09 < ringo> n8 blindcoder 
22:09 < MadTux> shhh!!! ringo damn it be quite! they will find me
22:49 < ringo> I love kernel panicks :)
22:50 < ringo>   
22:50 < daja77> ringo!
22:51 < ringo> hi daja77 !
22:51 < daja77> long tome no see
22:52 < ringo> long time in bsd land ... ;)
22:52 < ringo> (I am not that fast a learner)
22:53 < ringo> how are u ?\
22:54 < daja77> quite fine thx and you?
22:54 < ringo> fine thx 
22:54 < daja77> cool
22:56 < esdentem> hmm ... e2fsprogs fails?
22:56 < mnemoc> hm?
22:56 < daja77> yes
22:56 < esdentem> util-linux too?
22:56 < mnemoc> wtf?!
22:56 < esdentem> arrgh what is going on?
22:57 < mnemoc> my target builds as a charm :)
22:57 < esdentem> I am building on fedora ... so it is allowed to fail
22:58 < daja77> esdentem: yes it all failed in my builds too on rock
22:59 < daja77> now you know what i meant when saying fixing base before complaining about release
22:59 < esdentem> can someone of you check which package contains chroot binary?
23:00 < esdentem> daja77: but all that was working one or two months ago ... why is it failing now? ... because stuff is being updated and patched instead of leaving it alone ... that is my comment to that<dot>
23:00 * mnemoc will start a minimal p4 now
23:00 < daja77> s/dot/period
23:01 < esdentem> hehe ... thanks daja77 
23:01 < daja77> :)
23:02 < mnemoc> here we go!
23:03 < ringo> esdentem: /rock-i586-1.6.0/base-pkgs/sh-utils.tar.bz2
23:03 < mnemoc> when i said that our stabilization didn't converged rene tried to kill me :(
23:05 < daja77> to be fair it has to be said that base things were fixed fast when he was online
23:06 < mnemoc> i haven't said he has not worked a lot for the stable, i said it don't converge
23:07 < mnemoc> and this 'moving' thing has hurt a lot
23:07 < MadTux> cya
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23:07 < daja77> mnemoc: yes
23:08 < mnemoc> btw, is 'converge' a right english-mathematical word?
23:09 < rolla> mnemoc: used in what way?
23:09 < esdentem> hmm ... I really slowly have the feeling that same feelings are emerging as during the 1.6 times ... but guys ... you all have to say that rene did (even if he has at the moment no time for it) a very good work ... even if it is not finalizing in a stable releaze for now
23:10 < rolla> esdentem: very true
23:11 < mnemoc> full ack
23:11 < daja77> esdentem: he is working ob final
23:11 < daja77> he told me so
23:11 < esdentem> we all have to do our best so that a stable releaze comes to the daylight ... and rene should have time for working on rock in some weeks ... 
23:12 < rolla> ja 
23:12 < mnemoc> when he get internet access? 
23:12 < rolla> he moved?
23:12 < esdentem> yes ... and when he is ready with his exams i suppose
23:12 < ringo> mnemoc: webster:  "3. Mathematics. To approach a limit." http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=converge
23:14 < mnemoc> ringo: thanks :) i thought that on-the-fly translation was wrong 
23:14 < ringo> np 
23:19 < mnemoc> what really hit my motivation was seen some of my patches waiting since august and kde3.2 getting in
23:41 < esdentem> humm ... 
23:42 < daja77> kde3.2 is in?
23:42 < mnemoc> there is a branch for it
23:43 < daja77> rxr is kde maintainer for a long time, maybe it was just easier for him to do that then to check your patches
23:44 < daja77> but i'd really appreciate it to discuss this with him and not now
23:44 < mnemoc> me too
23:45 < daja77> k.
23:49 < esdentem> aaaargh ... damn fedora is not considering that someone would like to change the content of PROMPT_COMMAND variable >_<
23:52 < daja77> huh?
23:54 < esdentem> i fixed it
23:55 < daja77> so you could get a fedora dev :D
23:58 < esdentem> haha ... 
23:59 < esdentem> first I have to find a nice solution to that ...
23:59 < daja77> it is a sweet distribution
23:59 * daja77 hides
23:59 < daja77> .oO (night trolling)
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