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01:11 < fake> hm
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09:57 < daja77> moin
09:57 < ringo_> moin daja77 
09:57 < daja77> hey ringo
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09:57 < Baldzius> moin
09:59 < ringo_> hey daja77, just put up an old rock box it now does nat, found some old sound media files from you.
09:59 < daja77> me?
10:01 < ringo_> rem tatu russian :)
10:01 < daja77> hehe k.
10:01 < daja77> that was long ago :)
10:04 < ringo_> yes, it was I just plugged in the old P166 and the files where still there.
10:05 < daja77> :))
10:05 * daja77 has some files from you as well
10:06 < ringo_> you remembered that  ? wow
10:07 < netrunner> moin
10:07 * netrunner being shown lrz mainframes
10:07 < daja77> :)
10:08 < daja77> ringo_: sure :)
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11:16 < daja77> http://www.computerbild.de/newsletter/112/big.htm
11:16 < daja77> hrhr
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11:45 < ringo> daja77: nice 
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13:22 < mnemoc> moin
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13:34 < mnemoc> 'mail' command comes from sendmail or from somewhere else?
13:41 < daja77> hi mnemoc 
13:41 < Baldzius> mailx ?
13:42 < Baldzius> in redhat mail command is in mailx package
13:47 < mnemoc> thanks Baldzius :)
13:47 < mnemoc> hi daja77 
13:47 < Baldzius> :)
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13:57 < praenti> hi
13:58 < praenti> is there a way to remove a complete pkg-repository from the pkg-list over config.in?
13:59 < mnemoc> praenti: you can manipulate as you want the config$config/pacakges file
14:00 < mnemoc> pkgdisable jus uses a pattern, add there the repository name and you are done
14:00 < praenti> mnemoc: i know. but what i wanted to know if there is s.th similiar to pkgremove
14:00 < praenti> ahh ok
14:00 < mnemoc> use pkgremove
14:00 < praenti> it's a bit difficult if you can't read in the handbook...
14:01 < praenti> www.rocklinux-consulting.de is offline since today morning :-(
14:01 < praenti> btw. did anybody heard s.th from rene whats wrong?
14:02 < mnemoc> rene is unplugged
14:02 < mnemoc> praenti: pkgremove <pattern1> <pattern2> <pattern3> ....
14:03 < mnemoc> and that does a grep -v for each <pattern>
14:03 < mnemoc> egrep i mean
14:06 < Baldzius> praenti: you can remove repository by adding selection rule "O <repository-name>"
14:06 < Baldzius> or it is not what you wanted? :)
14:06 < mnemoc> O <rule> is for an specific config, he wants to do it for a target
14:08 < netrunne1> Baldzius: still here?
14:08 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner
14:08 < Baldzius> yeah :)
14:08 < praenti> Baldzius: no. it is for the Config menu. there are two functions for manipulating the pkg-list
14:08 < praenti> pkgremove and pkgenable
14:08 < mnemoc> and pkgdisable :)
14:08 < praenti> ahh yes
14:09 < praenti> at the moment i'm trying to build a kde32 repository for my own
14:10 < praenti> i will release patches if it has worked. but i will not apply that in the tree. you know stable version ;-)
14:10 < mnemoc> praenti: there is a branch for kde3.2
14:10 < daja77> why there is a kde32 branch already
14:10 < praenti> ??? what the hell
14:11 < mnemoc> daja77: rene was playing with betas
14:11 < daja77> mnemoc: so what he just has to update to the stable packages
14:11 < mnemoc> yep :)
14:11 < mnemoc> praenti: kill yourself :P
14:12 < praenti> have seen that. but they need a complete update to the stable release packages
14:14 < mnemoc> praenti: try to work over that branch, to make the merge easier
14:14 < praenti> but there is cool script ;-)
14:14 < mnemoc> well... yes :)
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14:20 < praenti> that makes things much faster ;-)
14:36 < cytrinox`> moin
14:36 < mnemoc> moin cytrinox` 
14:36 < rolla> re
14:37 < mnemoc> re rolla 
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14:38 < mnemoc> minimal/uclibc/NLS passed 1-gcc33 :-)
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14:40 < mnemoc> someone interested in uclibc early-alpha-patches *if* it enters stage 2?
14:40 < mnemoc> .oO( not alpha arch, alpha stability )
14:47 < rolla> :)
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15:02 * daja77 building kernel debian packages again
15:03 < mnemoc> uhm?
15:04 < mnemoc> .oO( to knoppix? )
15:04 < daja77> yes
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17:29 * msw pokes at rocklinux-consulting.de some more
17:32 < mnemoc> msw: can i help you?
17:33 < msw> I can't get to rocklinux-consulting.de...
17:34 < mnemoc> sure, no dns for it
17:54 < msw> mnemoc: no, I'm talking about http://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/
17:54 < mnemoc> the authoritative server for domain rocklinux-consulting.de is down
17:55 < mnemoc> since yesterday? cache dns servers decided to delete the entry :(
17:55 < msw> nah, I have the IP as 212.202.40.95
17:55 < mnemoc> yes?!
17:56 < mnemoc> i get temporary unavailable :|
17:59 * mnemoc kicks his isp
17:59 < saskatoon> why?
18:00 < mnemoc> because it doesn't resolve an *available* domain name
18:01 < mnemoc> http://svn2.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-handbook/trunk/ <--- .tex source of the handbook
18:01 < mnemoc> don't know how updated is it, but it's something
18:04 < saskatoon> my ips resolve this server name (wiht dig ...), no prob
18:04 < mnemoc> thta's why i kicked mine :)
18:05 < mnemoc> i'll go... cu
18:05 < saskatoon> pk, cu
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18:43 < darix> hi all :)
18:45 < saskatoon> hi darix
18:46 < darix> clifford: FYI: we just got the offer to visit linuxtag in chemnitz sponsored :) see you there :) hopefully
18:46 < daja77> cool
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19:14 < rxr> hi
19:15 < rxr> me just fixed the internet connection in the light-less lonely flat here
19:15 < rxr> a out of home mail just hit the rock-linux list - more in the next days
19:15 < rxr> best wishes to all ...
19:15 < rxr> cu
19:15 < daja77> hi rxr
19:16 < daja77> cu rxr
19:16 < daja77> :)
19:22 < daja77> fake: ?
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20:02 * rolla yawns
20:19 < msw> I'm doing a build of 2.0.0rc4 -- is it normal for package builds to fail due to perl being missing?  I have a 3-perl.err, basically saying: make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
20:20 < rolla> no that should not fail
20:20 < netrunner> 2190 builds total, 2090 completed fine, 100 with errors.
20:21 < msw> hmmm... I wonder why it did...
20:22 < msw> rolla: I'm boot strapping from a Fedora Core 1 build -- no devfs
20:22 * msw didn't think that it would matter these days...
20:23 < rolla> last I heard you still need devfs
20:23 < msw> ok, I heard that 2.0.0 trunk didn't need it
20:24 < rolla> netrunner: do you know the answer?
20:24 < netrunner> rolla: I think the dependency got removed.
20:24 < rolla> rally
20:25 < msw> yea, I read that it was removed, but I am unclear about which version
20:25 < netrunner> as discussed at 20C3 I did the tiny modifications to build ROCK Linux
20:25 < netrunner> without DevFS. Code is in rev2084.
20:25 < netrunner> Author: rene
20:27 < msw> does that translate to a released tarball?  what's the date on that change?
20:35 < netrunner> msw: iirc the tagging of -rc4 was later
20:35 < mnemoc> re
20:36 < netrunner> hi mnemoc 
20:36 * netrunner drinking 100% cacao
20:37 < msw> netrunner: great, thatnks
20:37 < msw> thanks
20:38 < mnemoc> msnhi netrunner 
20:38 < mnemoc> hm. s/msn//g
20:48 < mnemoc> hm.... fake disapper from my friends list o_O
20:49 < rolla> really
20:49 < rolla> yeah he is gone from mine aswell
20:49 < daja77> mnemoc: yes, he got deleted somehow and is pissed because of that ...
20:49 < rolla> I bet
20:51 < mnemoc> :(
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21:00 * rolla restarts his rock build
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21:07 < darix>  http://www.ufp.de/irssi/screen_away.pl.txt
21:07 < mnemoc> hm?
21:09 < mnemoc> nice way to know if screen is attached :-)
21:10 < darix> mnemoc: it could be shorter
21:11 < darix> the author just patch it
21:11 < darix> $STY
21:11 < darix> is set if its running in screen
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21:15 < mnemoc> thats cheaper than tracing your father :)
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21:29 < msw> is there any way to use make -j in a rock linux build?  Or do you have to set up a cluster?
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21:29 < darix> msw: grep "make" $BASEDIR
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21:30 < darix> msw: grep -r "make" $BASEDIR
21:32 < mnemoc> darix: you don't want to do that
21:32 < mnemoc> msw: MAKE is defined at script/parse-config
21:32 < darix> mnemoc: i did grep -ri chown . ;)
21:32 < darix> it didnt harm ;p
21:33 < mnemoc> make is a package present in every package dependency
21:33 < msw> mnemoc: see that now
21:33 < msw> thanks
21:34 < mnemoc> and if your tree has life, present in many lines of the logs :)
21:34 < mnemoc> msw: np
21:39 < owl> moin
21:39 < mnemoc> moin owl 
21:40 < owl> hi mnemoc . how are you?
21:41 < rolla> oql
21:41 < mnemoc> very good, and you?
21:41 < owl> hm. i'm alive. thx. 
21:41 < mnemoc> that's good for your bf
21:41 < owl> rolla: oql? oversized query language?
21:42 < rolla> ;0
21:42 < owl> mnemoc: hmm. yeah. why do you mean?
21:42 < mnemoc> owl: ask him
21:43 < owl> hmmmmmmmmm... .oO( mnemoc and true spoke together?) 
21:44 < mnemoc> :|
21:44 < owl> hm?
21:45 < mnemoc> :)
21:45 < mnemoc> does msn/irssi s.th works?
21:46 < darix> mnemoc: you mean the msn.irssi.org thingie
21:46 < darix> yes
21:47 < mnemoc> it don0t resolve to me :|
21:47 < rolla> == 13:31:34 =[1]=> Building base/linux24 [2.4.24 2.0.0-rc5].
21:51 < darix> Host msn.irssi.org not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
21:51 < darix> hmm
21:51 < darix> i will bug cras
21:51 < mnemoc> =)
21:51 < mnemoc> tanks
21:52 < darix> mnemoc: its just some public bitlbee
21:52 < darix> you can install it yourself
21:53 < mnemoc> i'll try
21:53 < mnemoc> is msn.irssi officialy down?
21:56 < darix> mnemoc: 
21:56 < darix> msn.irssi.org down Sat Dec 20 05:30:41 EET 2003
21:56 < darix> Bitlbee had a bit too many bugs, so msn.irssi.org is down at least until it stabilizes.
21:56 < darix> yes
21:56 < darix> just cleared it up
21:56 < darix> still down
21:57 < mnemoc> hm... why i did read thta when i check the news?.... thanks darix 
21:59 < darix> np
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22:09 < msw> ok, I don't think that make -jN works well...
22:09 < msw> mine build crapped out
22:15 < mnemoc> http://www.prikk.com/diverse/images/Europa1.jpg
22:15 < darix> msw: not all makefiles are prepared to properly run with make -j > 2
22:16 < msw> darix: I had make -j2
22:17 < darix> yes if you have too modules in the build process which depend on each other
22:17 < darix> it can fail
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22:18 < msw> darix: sure, just need some work on the makefiles to help out there...
22:56 < mnemoc> *yawn*
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23:06 < fake> hi
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23:07 < daja77> hi fake
23:07 * fake pissed
23:07 < mnemoc> hi pissed-fake
23:07 < mnemoc> daja77 report you as bogus!! he did it
23:08 < daja77> no!
23:08 < mnemoc> yes, he told us
23:08 * daja77 kicks mnemoc 
23:09 < mnemoc> see?... he does bad things to friends
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23:09 < daja77> hey
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23:09 < mnemoc> .oO( too much kidding ) /me hides
23:10 * fake searching windows-exploits-cds...
23:10 < daja77> *eg*
23:12 < fake> btw, have you read the privacy statement?
23:12 < fake> "We reserve the right to transfer your personal information in the event of a transfer of ownership of orkut.com, such as acquisition by or merger with another company. In such an event, orkut.com will notify you before information about you is transferred and becomes subject to a different privacy policy."
23:13 < fake> or even better:
23:13 < fake> "We may share both personally identifiable information about you and aggregate usage information that we collect with Google Inc. and agents of orkut in accordance to the terms and conditions of this Privacy Policy."
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23:46 < mnemoc> fake: will you re-join?
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23:51 < fake> mnemoc: no
23:51 < mnemoc> :(
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23:54 < cytrinox`> *gähn* gn8
23:57 < mnemoc> n8 cytrinox` 
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