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--- Log opened Sat Feb 21 00:00:33 2004 00:01 < daja77> yes i am awake, but you are offline >_< 00:20 -!- A-Tui [~aitor@cable74a018.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 00:21 < A-Tui> hola 00:22 < daja77> hi A-Tui 00:23 < A-Tui> hola daja77 00:34 < daja77> n8 you all 00:35 < mnemoc> n8 daja77 00:35 < A-Tui> buenas noches daja77 01:02 -!- batok [~chatzilla@dsl-200-78-127-253.prod-infinitum.com.mx] has joined #rocklinux 01:27 < mnemoc> *yawn* 01:30 < mnemoc> https://www.developer.be/paste/DspPaste.cfm?id=2204 <--- OMG! 01:31 < A-Tui> anypne uses sylpheed + gpgme? 01:32 < mnemoc> A-Tui: do u want to phone george bush? ;) 01:32 < A-Tui> hehe :) 01:33 < A-Tui> i think we don't share any world's points of view :) 01:35 < mnemoc> to fit 100% with someone should be quite bored 01:36 < A-Tui> yes, and fit 0% should be a challenge 01:37 < tfing> maybe you both share a passion for turtles :) 01:38 < mnemoc> o_O 01:39 < mnemoc> to share a hate is much easier that to share a passion :) 01:39 < A-Tui> :) 01:39 < A-Tui> tfing, for big ones :) 01:41 < mnemoc> big turtles? nice idea 01:48 < A-Tui> gpgme-update.patch for sylpheed needs be repatched 01:58 < mnemoc> don't u want to try? ;) 01:59 < batok> mnemoc : what is g w bush doing in such list? 02:00 < mnemoc> no idea :\ 02:00 < A-Tui> mnemoc, that's what i'm trying to do 02:01 < batok> what kind of sport does he ? 02:03 < mnemoc> he is quite big, he must do something 02:47 -!- sten [~sten@24.64.187.183] has joined #rocklinux 02:47 -!- praenti [~praenti@biersorten.dyndns.org] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02:59 -!- batok [~chatzilla@dsl-200-78-127-253.prod-infinitum.com.mx] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.59p [Mozilla rv:1.6/20040206]") 03:03 -!- sten [~sten@24.64.187.183] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 03:10 -!- genbie [~genbie7@host81-129-92-220.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #rocklinux 03:31 -!- genbie [~genbie7@host81-129-92-220.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has left #rocklinux () 03:51 -!- blindy_ [~blindcode@p508017B5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 03:52 -!- blindy [~blindcode@pD958FEC6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Nick collision from services.) 03:52 -!- blindy_ is now known as blindy 03:57 -!- plasma- [~foo@206.63.200.33] has joined #rocklinux 03:57 -!- sten [~sten@24.64.187.183] has joined #rocklinux 03:58 < sten> how can I skip RockPlug's PCI scan? 04:02 < tfing> use stone to desactivate it 04:06 < sten> tfing: maybe I'm missing something, but the only available options are "autodetect devices" which allows me to call a script when device X is found, PCI_MODULES, and PCI_SKIP_MODULES. None of these *skip* the scan, and I have no idea where to look now 04:07 < sten> tfing: I'd like to keep RockPlug's USB functionality, btw 04:10 < tfing> oh, i thought you wanted to disable all rockplug 04:10 < sten> no, that'd be easy :-) 04:11 < sten> tfing: I haven't recompiled my kernel yet. Is the PCI scan governed by the "PCI Hotplugging" option of /usr/src/linux/.config? 04:12 < tfing> nope 04:12 < A-Tui> there are any reason to include version 0.4.0 of gpgme instead 0.3.*? 04:12 < tfing> rockplug just tries to load the module corresponding to your hardware 04:14 < sten> tfing: can you tell me how the pci bus is scanned? does it use lspci, or access /proc directly? 04:14 < tfing> i don't know precisely 04:15 < sten> tfing: hmm, this is going to take a bit longer then. (I'm hoping that I can modify a script in /etc/rockplug, to disable the PCI scan) 04:15 < tfing> do you have a directory /etc/hotplug or /etc/rockplug ? 04:15 < A-Tui> n8 all, time to sleep 04:15 < tfing> n8 A-Tui 04:15 -!- A-Tui [~aitor@cable74a018.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("Satanás, el infierno es demasiado dulce!") 04:17 < sten> tfing: yeah, I'm reading through /etc/rockplug now. (it'll take longer if I don't know how the PCI scan is called... grep is my friend) 04:17 < tfing> it is called through /etc/rockplug/pci.init start 04:21 < sten> hmm, I wonder if removing "pci" from line 20 of /etc/rockplug/init would do the trick.. 04:21 < sten> no 04:22 < sten> it has to be in the /etc/rockplug/functions file 04:23 < tfing> why do you want to remove it btw ? 04:23 < sten> I manage my PCI devices monolithically. (and I'm very much a minimalist, and perfectionistic to boo) 04:24 < sten> s/boo/boot 04:25 < sten> once this ROCK installation is humming a stable tune, I plan on helping with the generic/minimal Target/package_template 04:27 < tfing> i am not awake enough to find where pci.init is called, but commenting the "pci_hwscan /etc/rockplug/pci.plug" in pci.init should prevent the pci autodetection 04:29 * sten nods 05:27 -!- kasc_ [kasc@dsl-213-023-060-109.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:29 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@p508BABC9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:37 < rolla> re 05:39 -!- kasc [kasc@dsl-213-023-060-003.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 05:39 -!- kasc_ is now known as kasc 05:45 -!- jsaw_ [~jsaw@p508BB105.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:48 < sten> jsaw: what is the best way to disable the RockPlug's PCI subsystem? 05:49 * sten prefers to handle PCI monolithically 05:53 -!- plasma- [~foo@206.63.200.33] has quit ("I'd rather be lucky than good") 07:54 -!- sten [~sten@24.64.187.183] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 10:44 -!- slightedchris [[FU]-22117@CPE-24-26-177-165.mn.rr.com] has joined #rocklinux 10:45 < slightedchris> rock! 10:45 < slightedchris> and/or roll 10:45 -!- slightedchris [[FU]-22117@CPE-24-26-177-165.mn.rr.com] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 10:47 -!- sten [~sten@24.64.187.183] has joined #rocklinux 10:48 < jsaw> sten: none. Write a feature request to the ML. (/me away again) 10:48 < sten> mnemoc: I tested that build you sent me, but it fails to rebuild both the glibc in its tree, and RC4, and anything newer. (so I've decided that it's not stable enough for me) 11:12 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-086.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:14 < netrunner> mnemoc: what did you try there? 11:14 < netrunner> s/mnemoc/sten/ 11:17 < sten> netrunner: it's rev2366 + some fixes mnemoc found. (it's a generic/minimal build) 11:34 < saskatoon> moin 11:51 -!- Nebukadneza [~daddel9@dsl-082-082-076-086.arcor-ip.net] has quit ("Client exiting") 12:06 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-30-65.reverse.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 12:07 < holyolli> moin 12:46 -!- cytrinox [~dj-nail2@p213.54.159.124.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 12:52 < cytrinox> moin 13:06 < mnemoc> sten: don't rebuild glibc, build a new properly-optimized build and use 'mine' to update 13:07 < mnemoc> sten: take the used config from /etc/ROCK-CONFIG and the used source is at /usr/src/rock-src 13:07 -!- cytrinox [~dj-nail2@p213.54.159.124.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit ("Client exiting") 13:07 < sten> mnemoc: after running ./scripts/Config, aren't all packages properly-optimzed? 13:08 < sten> mnemoc: (all packages which are henceforth built) 13:08 < mnemoc> you are runing a p-mmx generic/minimal/mnemoc'ed 13:08 < sten> mnemoc: I know 13:09 < mnemoc> the idea is to re-build exactly the same but whatever-you-have-optimized 13:09 < sten> mnemoc: but ./scripts/Config specified Athlon as the CPU, which rock-src/Build-Pkg then uses, yes? 13:09 < mnemoc> Athlon 13:09 < mnemoc> copy the used config con /config/whatever 13:10 < mnemoc> and then ./scripts/Config -cfg whatever 13:10 -!- cytrinox [~dj-nail2@p213.54.159.124.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:10 < sten> mnemoc: why did I get segfaults, while building glibc? 13:10 < mnemoc> sten: Build-Target ? 13:10 < sten> mnemoc: is it because I was installing glibc to a running system? 13:10 < mnemoc> sten: exactly 13:11 < mnemoc> sten: use Build-Target to re-build it for athlon 13:11 < sten> mnemoc: are your patches part of trunk now? 13:11 < mnemoc> sten: no, but they are in /usr/src/rock-src 13:11 < mnemoc> that's the source used to actually do the build 13:12 < sten> mnemoc: so I can't ./scripts/Update-Src yet... (How can I build glibc against linux26-header) 13:12 < mnemoc> sten: sure, your rebuild will be as you want it to be 13:13 < mnemoc> ./scripts/Update-Src is not stable yet, but ROCK is 13:13 < sten> mnemoc: linux26-header would always fail after at zorro.h 13:13 -!- cytrinox [~dj-nail2@p213.54.159.124.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 13:13 < sten> mnemoc: "ROCK"? What do you mean? 13:14 < mnemoc> ROCK it self, the 'kit' you are using 13:14 -!- cytrinox [~dj-nail2@p213.54.159.124.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:14 < sten> mnemoc: is the ./scripts/Update-Src rsync different from the svn trunk? 13:14 < mnemoc> rsync destroy local changes, svn up doesn't 13:15 < mnemoc> your rock-src is not equal to the trunk 13:15 < mnemoc> the rsync will remove the fixes 13:15 < mnemoc> tehn* 13:15 < mnemoc> aaarg.... then* 13:16 < mnemoc> sten: fake has added lot of patches for linux26-exclusive builds 13:16 < mnemoc> you can get them from submaster 13:16 < sten> mnemoc: right. I'm trying to figure out some way to get linux26-header to build (updating the rock build scripts seemed the best) 13:16 < mnemoc> (for the moment it's not) 13:17 < mnemoc> sten: run svn up instead of Update-Src 13:17 < mnemoc> and hand apply fake's patches 13:17 < sten> mnemoc: "svn up" from inside of rock-src? 13:17 < mnemoc> https://www.rocklinux.net/submaster 13:17 < mnemoc> sten: yep 13:17 < mnemoc> bbl 13:27 -!- cytrinox [~dj-nail2@p213.54.159.124.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit ("Client exiting") 13:27 -!- cytrinox [~dj-nail2@p213.54.159.124.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:34 < sten> mnemoc: I need to reboot to rock. brb 13:34 -!- sten [~sten@24.64.187.183] has quit ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.9") 13:35 < blindy> re 13:41 < mnemoc> re 13:42 < mnemoc> it's weird to see you as 'blindy' 13:46 -!- sten [~sten@24.64.187.183] has joined #rocklinux 13:53 < sten> which is preferable for a desktop user "subversion, or subversion-static?" I'm curious why subversion-static is part of a Target 13:53 < sten> s/a Target/Target generic/minimal 13:54 < mnemoc> svn-static is static to solve posible problem que bdb 13:55 < sten> obviously its static... So pretty much, its so the user doesn't end up "up shit creek" 13:56 < sten> speaking of bdb: Is bdb42 backwards compatible with bdb41? 13:59 < mnemoc> sten: acording to the new-but-discusting-website of sleepycat... 13:59 < mnemoc> Requires log file format upgrade. 13:59 < mnemoc> May require Queue access method database dump and load. 13:59 -!- A-Tui [~aitor@cable74a018.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 14:00 < A-Tui> hola a todos 14:00 < mnemoc> buenos dias don Aitor 14:00 < A-Tui> buenos dias mnemoc :) 14:01 < holyolli> hola A-Tui y mnemoc 14:01 < A-Tui> hola holyolli 14:01 < A-Tui> mnemoc, there is any special reason to have gpme 0.4.0 instead of 0.3.* in rock? 14:02 < mnemoc> the greater number the better? 14:03 < A-Tui> in this case no 14:04 < mnemoc> lock at the history to see who send the update and ask him 14:04 < A-Tui> i read in the gpgme.desc that the main function of this package is its use with sylpheed, but 0.4.* it's not supported yet 14:04 < mnemoc> LOL 14:04 < mnemoc> lock at the history for the revision and revert it 14:04 < A-Tui> and it's very unstable, between 0.4.0 and 0.4.4 there are a lot of important changes (like interfaces and types) 14:05 < A-Tui> ok mnemoc 14:05 < mnemoc> A-Tui: and send a mail to the ML 14:05 < A-Tui> ok, i'm going to do the patch 14:08 < mnemoc> a revert doesn't need a patch, it only needs to be justified to rene 14:09 < A-Tui> mmmm ok, i must only send a mail arguing the problem then 14:24 < sten> menmoc: "svn up" (from inside of rock-src) says: " svn: '.' is not a working copy" 14:24 < sten> mnemoc: !! 14:24 < mnemoc> uhm... 14:24 < mnemoc> don't update :p 14:24 < A-Tui> :) 14:25 < mnemoc> sten: nothing has changed :) 14:25 < sten> mnemoc: really? I thought there were at least 30 changes 14:26 < A-Tui> and you can't use ./scripts/Update-Src? 14:26 < mnemoc> his rock-src is more patched than the trunk 14:26 < sten> mnemoc: nope, just 10 changes 14:27 < A-Tui> ahh ok 14:27 * sten thinks he should backup his rock-src... 14:28 < mnemoc> sten: check out to a diferent dir 14:28 < A-Tui> i have ever two copys of unoffical changes, becouse i ever forget when i run update 14:28 < mnemoc> cd /usr/src ; svn co svn://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-linux/trunk rock-trunk 14:29 < mnemoc> A-Tui: i have nine different trees here o_O 14:29 < A-Tui> w0w :) 14:29 < A-Tui> i have ethe official and one with some packages added 14:30 < sten> mnemoc: do you think the latest trunk will build as well as the current patched rock-src? 14:30 < mnemoc> diff them :p 14:31 < mnemoc> if you build from trunk pkgsel '- uml_utilities'... that's the only really broken thing i remember 14:33 < sten> menmoc: yeah, I remember it from my own rc4, rc5/trunk build attempts. (and noticed that your tree built it ok) 14:35 -!- k3t_ [k3t@pD9005734.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:46 -!- jsaw_ [~jsaw@p508BBBAA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:47 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@p508BABC9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 14:51 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD900576A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:02 < mnemoc> *yawn* 15:11 < sten> mnemoc: well, my patched, updated rock-src is working on an optimized minimal+xfree86 build. The package selection is leaner then the generic/minimal which you built for me. (do the extra packages automatically become rolled in, because of dependencies?0 15:11 < sten> s/0/) 15:12 < mnemoc> sten: nothing 'rolls in' on rock 15:13 < mnemoc> sten: dependencies are a reference for build order 15:13 < sten> mnemoc: doesn't Emerge-Pkg install dependencies? 15:14 < mnemoc> it does, but the dependencies graph make you install almost every package 15:14 < mnemoc> mandatory buildtime dependencies and optional buildtime dependencies are treated as the same 15:15 -!- cytrinox [~dj-nail2@p213.54.159.124.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:15 < mnemoc> runtime dependencies are not catched. 15:15 < sten> mnemoc: oooh 15:15 < sten> mnemoc: does coreutils really need acl? 15:15 < mnemoc> no 15:15 -!- cytrinox [~dj-nail2@p213.54.179.185.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:16 < mnemoc> but as acl is enable by default, coreutils use it and de [DEP] is catched 15:16 < sten> mnemoc: I see 15:16 < mnemoc> 'rolls in' can be considered evil in this context 15:17 < sten> mnemoc: yes, evil indeed. (I was quite scared off / disapointed when I looked at the Desktop dependency graph. Now I understand) 15:18 < mnemoc> it is safer to give the responsability to target's mantainer i.e. you. 15:19 < sten> agreed 15:20 -!- MadTux [~mike@66.205.201.2] has joined #rocklinux 15:20 < MadTux> Greetings. 15:21 < sten> Hi 15:21 < daja77> hi MadTux 15:25 < sten> mnemoc: thanks for the help again. I really appreciate it. I'm off to get some sleep 15:26 < mnemoc> sten: cu 15:26 < mnemoc> MadTux! 15:26 < MadTux> sten: sleep is just for mortals what do u need it for? 15:26 < mnemoc> daja77! 15:26 < daja77> hi mnemoc 15:26 * daja77 is mortal 15:26 < MadTux> mnemoc: now u are greeting me? 15:26 < MadTux> daja77: we knew thta already 15:26 * daja77 slept from 0:30 till now 15:26 * daja77 kicks MadTux 15:27 < mnemoc> MadTux: YES, i'm greeting you AGAIN 15:27 < MadTux> again? 15:27 < mnemoc> daja77: our conscience 15:27 < mnemoc> don't let us sleep more 15:28 < A-Tui> hola MadTux, daja77 15:28 < daja77> yeah i sleep for you, so you can do all the hacking 15:28 < daja77> hi A-Tui 15:28 < mnemoc> :p 15:29 < MadTux> Aitor!!! Como estais amigo mio? 15:29 < A-Tui> bien MadTux, mirando código 15:29 < MadTux> what kind of coe? 15:30 < A-Tui> sylpheeds one 15:33 < sten> sleep can wait a few more minutes. 15:34 * mnemoc kicks sten to bed 15:36 < sten> mnemoc: do you remember how I had that idea to assemble an ISO which would streamline the process of 1. install base system 2. build ROCK from here 3. tarballs are on the cd? Maybe generic/minimal is enough, if I write a README... (just something that'll help some of my bright CompSci friends with little/no Linux experience) 15:37 < mnemoc> sten: the missing part is the 'live-minimal-cd' 15:37 < sten> mnemoc: that would need LOTS of ram 15:38 < mnemoc> cramfs from the cd? 15:38 < sten> mnemoc: compilation is I/O extensive, isn't it? 15:38 < sten> s/extensive/intensive 15:38 < mnemoc> it's reeeeealy good to test hardware resistence 15:39 < daja77> yep 15:39 < daja77> rock showed me that via kt266a and kt300 have broken ide controllers 15:39 < sten> mnemoc: I think the < 5000 KBs of cdroms would be quite the bottleneck 15:40 < mnemoc> sten: yes :( 15:41 < sten> mnemoc: but if it had a scratch partition... (even if it dd'd one big image onto that partition, and mount -o loop'd it) 15:42 < sten> mnemoc: no, it would just copy to the partition 15:42 < mnemoc> sten: sounds good 15:44 < sten> mnemoc: it needs to install/set up build environment in 1 step, with minimal user interaction. User would need to, at least partition his HD before this stage 15:45 < sten> mnemoc: it might be best for this to eventually become /. Because then the user can reboot, using the CD, after the installation is complete. Then the user would run script #2 15:45 < mnemoc> design something 15:45 < sten> mnemoc: which would upgrade the minimal build env, with its own fresh pkgs, but without chroot'ing 15:46 < mnemoc> now you understand rock2.0 a little deeper 15:46 < sten> mnemoc: yes, and I've been reminded of the dangers of building glibc ;-) 15:46 < mnemoc> =) 15:48 < sten> mnemoc: well, I'm off to sleep for real now. Night 15:50 < mnemoc> n8 sten 15:50 < A-Tui> time to luch, bye 15:51 -!- A-Tui [~aitor@cable74a018.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("Satanás, el infierno es demasiado dulce!") 16:12 < daja77> mnemoc: funny mail :) 16:13 < mnemoc> :p 16:13 < daja77> just wanted to say i like it :p 16:14 < mnemoc> thanks a lot 16:14 < MadTux> daja77: mnemocy is willing start a war 16:14 < mnemoc> :o 16:15 -!- mnemoc is now known as __mnemoc 16:15 < MadTux> :P 16:16 < daja77> no i don't think so 16:16 < MadTux> do u agree with him? 16:16 < daja77> no need for protected mnemoc 16:16 -!- __mnemoc is now known as mnemoc 16:17 < mnemoc> <:o) 16:17 < daja77> basically yes 16:17 * MadTux too. 17:03 -!- praenti [~praenti@biersorten.dyndns.org] has joined #rocklinux 17:04 < MadTux> Michael!! 17:05 < praenti> hi Mike! 17:05 < MadTux> Wie geht es dir mein freund? :) 17:06 < praenti> good. and how are you? I see you have trained your german :-) 17:07 < MadTux> yes been training it 1/2 a bit 17:07 < MadTux> I'm doing great thanks :) 17:08 < praenti> i have not very much time yet, so i had to leave you. sorry :-( 17:08 < praenti> cu MadTux 17:09 < holyolli> re 17:19 < blindy> hi hi and rehi 17:20 < MadTux> blindy and Alcoholy.. nice to see u guys here 17:21 < holyolli> hi blindy, tuxo loco ;-) 17:23 < MadTux> how are u doing terror of the airs? 17:24 < mnemoc> aaarg!! www.gnu.org still down 17:24 < holyolli> MadTux: atm nothing...just terror in the net ;-) 17:24 < mnemoc> pervert 17:25 < MadTux> hehe 17:25 < MadTux> mnemoc: use a mirror? 17:25 < mnemoc> i want to subscribe to a ML :/ 17:25 < holyolli> MadTux: i had my long-range-exam the day before yesterday 17:25 < MadTux> bwahahahahahaha 17:25 < MadTux> how did it go? 17:26 < holyolli> MadTux: well. i began my learning on monday...compared to this, very good...if it is sufficent for the 75%-mark..i don't know ;-) 17:27 < holyolli> and those tasks were already known..so just use the memory function of the calculator 17:27 < holyolli> :-D 17:27 < MadTux> lol 17:27 < holyolli> <-- still doesn't know how to compute everything for longrange-flightplanning..but i'll never need it 17:27 < MadTux> mnemoc: smile life is fine 17:27 < holyolli> ;) 17:28 < MadTux> Oh :) 17:28 < mnemoc> :) 17:29 < MadTux> holyolli: btw could u come pick me up so we can go to mnemoc's house to have lunch? 17:29 < holyolli> MadTux: good idea. i'm in 5 minutes at your place ;-) 17:29 < MadTux> great thanks 17:30 < mnemoc> :) 17:33 < MadTux> mnemoc: start cooking we are HUNGRY 17:33 < mnemoc> pizza? 17:33 < mnemoc> :p 17:34 < MadTux> nah, some chile typical food :) 17:34 < mnemoc> pizza! ;) 17:34 < MadTux> damn italians.. 17:34 < mnemoc> :p 17:34 < mnemoc> gnochis? 17:34 < MadTux> wtf is it? 17:35 < holyolli> cool 17:35 < holyolli> gnochis are tasty 17:35 < MadTux> wtf is gnochis!?!?! 17:36 < holyolli> hm. mnemoc? can you describe them on english? 17:36 < MadTux> .o0(i can't wait to see this) 17:36 < mnemoc> i'm asking google for help :p 17:37 < MadTux> *G* 17:37 < holyolli> MadTux: gnochis are some kind of filled noodles... 17:37 < MadTux> don't ruin it.. wait for mnemoc :) 17:38 < holyolli> but completely with paste 17:38 < holyolli> hehe 17:38 < mnemoc> https://escapades.justmynet.com/gnocchis.jpg 17:39 < mnemoc> don't ask wtf they put over those gnocchis 17:39 < MadTux> wtf do they put over those gnocchis? 17:39 < blindy> wtf did they put over those gnocchis? 17:39 < holyolli> *lool* i googled for gnochis...and the first page i got was a page from .cr ;-) 17:39 < MadTux> hehe 17:40 < MadTux> urggs 17:40 < holyolli> https://www.berndgottwald.de/costa_rica.htm <-- looks beautiful! 17:40 * holyolli wanna see it asap! 17:41 < MadTux> you are impressed by that? You ain't seen nothing yet 17:41 < MadTux> :) 17:41 < holyolli> hehe 17:41 < holyolli> MadTux: you're right..there were no women on the photos.. ;-) 17:42 < MadTux> just get your fat ass over here 17:42 < holyolli> *g* 17:42 < MadTux> I'll show u woman and places 17:42 < MadTux> :) 17:42 < holyolli> hehe 17:43 < MadTux> mnemoc: you are castrado.. i mean casado.. but u are welcome to come too, so we can show you the place :) 17:44 < mnemoc> the tickets are *too* expensive for me :( 17:44 < MadTux> get a damn bus 17:44 < mnemoc> to .cr? a week? 17:44 < holyolli> mnemoc: yeah...just drive the panamericana until .cr ;-) 17:45 < MadTux> mnemoc: u can get a bus to colombia or so then fly over here 17:45 < MadTux> :) 17:45 < mnemoc> not much different to drive to .co than to .cr 17:45 < mnemoc> and the same 'social stability' :p 17:46 < MadTux> social stability? 17:46 < MadTux> mnemoc: well just drive some place else where its cheaper and *direct* to come here 17:48 < mnemoc> =) 17:49 < MadTux> i mean its not our fault that u live in the end of the world 17:50 < mnemoc> i live in the 0.25 of chile, this is not the end of the world 17:51 < MadTux> At my eyes it is :) 17:51 < mnemoc> 34º it's not the end of the world :p 17:51 < holyolli> mnemoc: is it near of santiago? 17:52 < mnemoc> 100km to the south 17:52 < MadTux> brb 17:53 < mnemoc> https://www.turistel.cl/mapas_ruteros/pag_mapas_ruteros.htm <-- at E 17:55 < holyolli> ah 17:59 < mnemoc> J is the most beautyfull part 18:00 < mnemoc> holyolli: can you fly to there? 18:00 < mnemoc> or only between 'big' airports? 18:01 < holyolli> jepp. lufthansa has a flight from frankfurt via ezeiza to santiago, but of course i don't fly those big birds atm 18:01 < mnemoc> i was talking about simulators :p 18:01 < holyolli> ah 18:01 < mnemoc> and e.g. coihaique 18:02 < holyolli> hehe...i could..but i have no access to the simulators for myself 18:02 < holyolli> (and even they're just sims, there are expensive) 18:03 < mnemoc> .oO( does ms flight simulator runs on wine? ) 18:04 < mnemoc> holyolli: do you have 'missions' when you get to the simulator, or sometimes you are 'free' to go? 18:05 < mnemoc> i mean, free to choose your destin 18:05 < holyolli> mnemoc: normally you have missions - or later then during your job 'refresher courses' and checks... 18:05 < holyolli> and everything is defined 18:05 < mnemoc> :\ 18:05 < holyolli> the last time i was with a friend of mine, who acutally flies the A340 18:05 < mnemoc> no fun 18:05 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@p508024C2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:06 < holyolli> and the examiner was a nice guy and let me fly during their pause 18:06 < mnemoc> airbus? 18:06 < holyolli> jepp 18:06 < mnemoc> =) 18:06 < daja77> rock ships flightgear btw 18:07 < mnemoc> how complete is it? 18:07 < daja77> have never played it for long actually, but has many features as af as i have seen 18:08 < holyolli> daja77: yes, but it's mainly for visual flight 18:08 < holyolli> that parts is excellent, but i needed to train some instrument flight stuff... 18:09 < daja77> ah k. 18:09 < mnemoc> why? plains can even land theirselves :p 18:09 < holyolli> hehe 18:10 < holyolli> mnemoc: theoretically they can even do the whole flight..but only if everything works ok and you have no abnormals 18:10 < MadTux> hehe 18:11 < MadTux> mnemoc: knows about aviation? 18:11 < MadTux> :) 18:11 < mnemoc> no, i'm just teasing holyolli :) 18:11 < MadTux> ah :( 18:12 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p50802F5C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18:12 -!- A-Tui [~aitor@cable74a018.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 18:12 < MadTux> someday i will learn about plains and be like alcoholy 18:12 < MadTux> ;) 18:13 < A-Tui> hi 18:13 < daja77> hi A-Tui 18:13 < mnemoc> hi A-Tui 18:13 < daja77> MadTux: still biking? 18:13 < holyolli> MadTux: well..you have the experience I don't have 18:13 < mnemoc> lot of people would kill to be in olli's place 18:13 < holyolli> .oO(without work atm? ;-) 18:14 < mnemoc> you are really close to a job at luftansa 18:15 < holyolli> mnemoc: that's right..but i have to wait approx. 2 years..which is a long time 18:15 < daja77> administering their novell servers *ggg* 18:15 < holyolli> hehe 18:15 < holyolli> they use linux 18:15 < holyolli> :-P 18:15 < mnemoc> suse? 18:15 < daja77> they bought novell sw half a year ago ... 18:15 < holyolli> no idea...but the server backbone for all flight planning and for the operations is based on linux 18:16 < daja77> sounds trustworthy 18:16 < holyolli> and they have a neat vpn for all pilots (~3000 users), which is really stable and fast 18:16 < MadTux> holyolli: hehe well u can't have everything in life 18:17 < holyolli> *g* 18:18 * daja77 off for party, cu 18:18 < MadTux> daja77: yes I still bike. 18:18 < holyolli> cu daja77 18:18 < holyolli> have fun 18:18 < daja77> thx 18:19 < mnemoc> why daja sleeps and goes to parties and i can :( 18:19 < mnemoc> can't* 18:19 < holyolli> mnemoc: why do you can't? 18:19 < MadTux> mnemoc: because u live in the end of the world 18:19 < mnemoc> :\ 18:19 < holyolli> .oO(args...fscked grammar) 18:19 < A-Tui> :) 18:19 < A-Tui> MadTux, or in the start..... 18:20 < A-Tui> ops begin 18:20 < MadTux> A-Tui: no, the end. 18:20 < MadTux> :) 18:20 < mnemoc> well the magnetic pole is here :p 18:20 < MadTux> so u must be magnetic too... 18:20 < MadTux> Self Note: Never allow mnemoc to stay any close to any of my computers 18:21 < mnemoc> o_O 18:21 < A-Tui> :) 18:21 < holyolli> *lol* 18:21 < mnemoc> .oO( that's why i don't have good feeling with floppy disks? ) 18:21 < MadTux> 2nd Self Note: Take mnemoc ona trip to an IRON Factory 18:22 < MadTux> *g* 18:22 < mnemoc> :| 18:22 < MadTux> mnemoc: why can't u just move over here? 18:22 < MadTux> :( 18:23 < mnemoc> i have a family here and i'm studing here :\ 18:23 < MadTux> bah excuses 18:23 < MadTux> :P 18:23 < mnemoc> :p 18:39 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@p508BBB26.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:39 -!- jsaw_ [~jsaw@p508BBBAA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 18:42 < MadTux> *YYYYAAAWWWNNNN* 18:42 < mnemoc> you yawning??? 18:43 < MadTux> yeah. 18:43 < MadTux> I'm bored. 18:43 < mnemoc> wikiwiki 18:43 < mnemoc> make your fun 18:45 < MadTux> hehe ok. 18:46 * mnemoc having fun debugging through a pipe :p 18:49 < mnemoc> bbl 18:53 < MadTux> no! 18:53 < MadTux> stay! 19:10 < mnemoc> re 19:13 < MadTux> wb 19:19 < mnemoc> =) 19:24 -!- A-Tui [~aitor@cable74a018.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("Satanás, el infierno es demasiado dulce!") 19:41 < MadTux> bbl (maybe) 19:42 -!- MadTux [~mike@66.205.201.2] has quit ("leaving") 21:46 < netrunne1> *g* "If I open a shell, and hold my ear to the monitor, I can not hear the sea, why?" 21:48 < mnemoc> o_O 21:48 < mnemoc> you can set a midi or wav to solve the problem :P 21:50 < mnemoc> what happened to ROCKbot? 22:00 < netrunne1> mnemoc: It runs on my build system, which makes a lot of noise in my dormatory. 22:00 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 22:01 < netrunner> mnemoc: as soon as I moved my builder to be my main server, it'll run continuously. 22:01 * netrunner -> bed 22:04 < holyolli> n8 netrunner 22:18 < blindy> re= 22:32 < mnemoc> re blindy 22:37 < daja77> mnemoc: ? 22:42 < mnemoc> daja77: ? 22:43 < daja77> 18:14 < mnemoc> why daja sleeps and goes to parties and i can :( 22:43 < daja77> you can what? 22:46 < mnemoc> i can't* 22:46 < daja77> ic 22:46 < mnemoc> a depressing lapsus 22:52 < daja77> because you have family? 22:54 < mnemoc> to have family is good, to stay in a bunker the whole day is not 22:54 < daja77> ack 23:04 -!- Lardo [~Lardo@81.208.60.203] has joined #rocklinux 23:06 -!- A-Tui [~aitor@cable74a018.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 23:06 < A-Tui> hola 23:11 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAB932.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:12 < tcr> moin all 23:15 < holyolli> hi A-Tui, tcr 23:15 < A-Tui> hi tcr, holyolli 23:33 -!- Lardo [~Lardo@81.208.60.203] has left #rocklinux () 23:35 < daja77> Downloading download/base/linux26/linux-2.6.2.tar.bz2?! 23:35 < tfing> ./scripts/Create-PkgUpdPatch linux26-2.6.3 | patch -p0 :) 23:36 < daja77> yeah sure, just wondering 23:40 < daja77> downloading 2.4.25 and 2.6.3 now 23:59 < jsaw> re 23:59 < jsaw> hi all --- Log closed Sun Feb 22 00:00:14 2004