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--- Log opened Mon Feb 23 00:00:02 2004 00:09 -!- axp [~axp@dsl-wien1-35-126.utaonline.at] has joined #rocklinux 00:09 < axp> hi ! 00:17 -!- axp [~axp@dsl-wien1-35-126.utaonline.at] has quit ("leaving") 00:17 < tfing> that was short 00:28 -!- tsa [tsa@pD9E1170C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:30 < jsaw_> re 00:30 -!- jsaw_ is now known as jsaw 00:30 < jsaw> hi all 00:32 < saskatoon> re 00:34 < A-Tui> n8 all 00:34 -!- A-Tui [~aitor@cable74a018.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("Satanás, el infierno es demasiado dulce!") 01:02 -!- axp [~axp@dsl-wien1-35-126.utaonline.at] has joined #rocklinux 02:39 -!- axp [~axp@dsl-wien1-35-126.utaonline.at] has quit ("leaving") 02:41 < tsa> yES! 02:41 < tsa> fscking uucp finally works with the solaris box. 02:56 < SMP> you have a weird taste ;) 03:00 < tsa> ;-) 03:51 -!- tsa [tsa@pD9E1170C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("*plopp*") 03:57 -!- blindy_ [~blindcode@pD958F7BE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 03:57 -!- blindy [~blindcode@pD9E4F762.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Nick collision from services.) 03:57 -!- blindy_ is now known as blindy 04:15 -!- Netsplit wells.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: msw, mistik1, netcrow, snyke, blindy, Freak, fake, owl, plasma-, Kizzle, (+18 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 04:17 -!- Netsplit over, joins: esdentem_, blindy, plasma-, cytrinox, jsaw, netrunne1, praenti, saskatoon, sten, Kizzle (+18 more) 04:21 -!- cytrinox [~dj-nail2@p213.54.157.30.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:21 -!- cytrinox [~dj-nail2@p213.54.161.3.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 04:31 -!- Kizzle [~Kizzle@68.188.214.16.gha.mi.chartermi.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 04:43 < rolla> re 05:00 -!- sten [~sten@24.64.187.183] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 05:11 < tfing> subversion 1.0 out ! 05:12 < jsaw> wow 05:12 < tfing> but the subversion server has been slashdotted ;) 05:12 < jsaw> btw, I'm at base/5-gsl with binutils xxx.0.8 and gcc 3.3.3 05:14 < tfing> no errors on stage 1,2,3 with gcc 3.3.3 ? 05:14 < jsaw> uml-utilities and memtest86 05:14 < tfing> i read something about a replacement of memtest86 05:14 < tfing> something more portable 05:15 < jsaw> uml-utilities seems not gcc related (failed in 1 and is fine in 3) 05:16 < jsaw> replacement? 05:16 < tfing> memtest86+ (https://www.memtest.org/) 05:17 < jsaw> hmmm... 05:20 < jsaw> tfing: patch? 05:24 < tfing> i don't have time until march 05:25 < jsaw> oh 05:25 < tfing> got a report to finish and the presentation to work on 05:25 < tfing> that's the very end of my studies ;) 05:25 < jsaw> good luck! 05:26 < jsaw> btw, it's damn late. me moves to bed. cu l8r 05:26 < tfing> thx 05:26 < tfing> bye 07:26 -!- plasma- [~foo@206.63.200.33] has quit ("I'd rather be lucky than good") 07:31 -!- sten [~sten@24.64.187.183] has joined #rocklinux 07:31 < sten> yay, I have a fast, stable *fully* (from stage 1 build) Linux 2.6 ROCK. 07:31 < sten> ! 07:32 < sten> X is doing well, except that if I start "X" as a normal user, I get a kernel message about "disabling IRQ 11" 07:33 < sten> could somebody please explain 07:35 < tfing> what is on your irq 11 ? 07:37 < sten> tfing: my graphics card. (isn't IRQ 11 the standard agp IRQ?) 07:38 < tfing> 11: 791656614 XT-PIC yenta, yenta, uhci_hcd, Intel 82801CA-ICH3, eth0, radeon@PCI:1:0:0 <- i have a lot of things on my irq 11 :) 07:40 < sten> tfing: say, my soundcard is using the same IRQ... I've never noticed that before 07:40 < tfing> and not your ethernet card by any chance ? 07:41 < sten> tfing: no, that uses IRQ 9 07:42 < tfing> look at this https://bugs.xfree86.org/show_bug.cgi?id=314 07:43 < tfing> i don't know if that will solve your problem 07:43 < sten> tfing: heh, I'm an idiot... I forgot I didn't have an group "wheel" in /etc/group... 07:44 < sten> tfing: it was a kernel generated DRM message 07:44 < tfing> what's the link between the wheel group and irq 11 ? 07:44 < sten> tfing: my XF86Config specified that usage of DRI is limited to group wheel 07:44 < tfing> ok :) 07:44 < sten> tfing: DRI requires direct DMA transfers 07:45 < sten> :-) 07:46 < sten> tfing: say, I'm testing linux26 pure builds, and I'm wondering where I should report bugs to. (module-init-utils isn't built for some odd reason) 07:46 < tfing> the mailing list is the most read place 07:46 < sten> tfing: thanks 07:46 < tfing> there is a bug tracker but ... well ... 07:48 < sten> tfing: flyspray? Yeah, I've been keeping my eye on it for a while, and understant the ... well ... 07:48 < tfing> =) 07:48 < sten> s/understant/understand 07:59 < sten> brb, (switching to X, and unfortunately I forgot to screen this session) 07:59 -!- sten [~sten@24.64.187.183] has quit ("X") 08:01 -!- sten [~sten@24.64.187.183] has joined #rocklinux 08:26 < sten> do I need to add all of my permission settings to /etc/devfsd.conf, or will they be automatically saved? (its been a while since I used devfs) 08:27 < tfing> they are not saved 08:36 < sten> bummer, my /etc/devfsd is pretty empty. (its SOOO boring to have to type all those permissions for each class of devices) Can you dcc send me yours? 08:36 < tfing> don't you have anything in /etc/devfsd.d ? 08:37 < sten> yeah, I do, but nothing relating to permissions 08:37 < sten> don't no why... (I'm running a homemade linux26 build, rev ??76, patched with Jake's patches) 08:37 < tfing> the config for what kind of stuff do you need ? 08:38 < sten> whoa... devfsd.d 08:39 < sten> I didn't know that existed 08:39 < sten> (I automatically assumed you said devfsd.conf... it's getting late) 08:39 < sten> this is really handy 08:39 < tfing> indeed :) 08:39 < tfing> it's like 3 am for you ? 08:41 < sten> no, the funny thing is it's just 12:35... I must be sleep deprived or something. (I have to get up at a reasonable hour tomorow though, so relatively speaking, it is more "late" at midnight tonight, then it was last night) 08:43 < sten> tfing: I forget the syntax... Do I have to REGISTER a device, before I can change PERMISSIONS 08:44 < tfing> REGISTER is the action you intercept, it's when the device is created 08:45 < tfing> so it's not you who register the device 08:48 < sten> so can I: PERMISSIONS root.games audio/* 0660 08:48 < sten> ? 08:48 < tfing> no, you do REGISTER audio/* PERMISSIONS root.users 0660 08:49 < sten> yeah, that looks right. (when you said "it's not you who register the device, I became confused) 08:49 < tfing> that means, when a device in audio/* is registered, its permissions are changed 08:49 < tfing> sorry for the confusion ;) 08:49 < sten> don't worry about it, I appreciate the help ;-) 08:50 < sten> tfing: what is the "games" group for anyway? 08:51 < tfing> it can be useful to make a distinction between people who can connect locally et those who connect remotely 08:52 < tfing> to prevent someone from suddenly playing a mp3 remotely and wake you up at 3 am :) 08:52 < sten> tfing: ahh. That's what I was going to use it for. 08:52 < sten> tfing: although I was even thinking of them spinning up my noisy cdrom 08:52 -!- saskatoon [~bodo@dialin-212-144-018-080.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 08:56 < sten> tfing: I don't recognize /dev/snd/*. Is that alsa, which then makes /dev/sound/* OSS emulation? 08:56 < tfing> indeed 09:02 < sten> twm seems different this Xfree release... (I've just moved from 4.3, to 4.3.99.???) 09:02 < sten> there's a close button where there used to be a resize button, for example 09:03 < sten> root is black, not grey 09:04 < tfing> the borders are still green ? 09:06 < sten> yup 09:07 < sten> that same green as the default win95 background. (except where they are textured/grey fuzzed) 09:07 < tfing> the basics are still there then :) 09:07 < sten> :-) 09:08 < sten> I normally use kde, with the alloy style, done up in a colour scheme similar to mozilla breeze, with the feel and speed of BeOS 09:08 < sten> haven't compiled the beast yet though.. 09:09 < sten> speaking of such things: How do I get the kde32 branch into my rock-src? 09:10 < sten> I've never stepped out of trunk before. (rxr assures me that the reason kde32 isn't in trunk, is because of a qt on PPC issue) 09:10 < tfing> sten: https://www.rocklinux.net/lurker/message/20031219.224037.6ac1ffcf.html 09:12 < sten> tfing: thank you 09:13 < sten> hmm, I wonder what "mostly builds" means 09:14 < tfing> the mail is 2 months old 09:15 < tfing> it can only be better since then =) 09:15 < sten> it's dangerous to make assumptions... ;-) (I'm going to give it a try, of course) 09:19 < sten> ew. My console log says: INIT: Id "X" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minute 09:19 < sten> s 09:20 < sten> that's weird. That's the sort of thing that happens if one starts [g,k,x]dm with a broken XF86Config 09:36 < sten> bummer... kde32 branch isn't kde-3.2-release. It's kde-3.1.95 ;-( 09:46 < blindy> WOOHOOOOO! Subversion 1.0! 10:13 < sten> what is the command that makes a mine out of an untarred, uncompiled packages? (it checks configuration method, builds, then creates the mine) 10:14 < blindy> mine -C var-adm-dir package-tar-bz2 package-name gem-file 10:15 < blindy> oh 10:15 < blindy> sorry 10:15 < blindy> misread that... what do you want to do? 10:15 < blindy> build a package that is not in package/ but have it under mine's package system? 10:15 < sten> yeah 10:16 < blindy> then you must configure and compile the package manually, then run: 10:16 < blindy> mkpkg <pkg-name> <install-method> 10:16 < blindy> example: 10:16 < blindy> mkpkg kdepim make install 10:17 < sten> thanks. I thought that it would be faster to do it this way, then to update rxr's kde32 branch. (it seems to be kde-3.1.95, which I'm not interested in) 10:18 < blindy> there is a script for updating the kde dir 10:19 < blindy> it's package/kde32/update-kde.sh 10:19 < blindy> you can have a look at that, maybe it can help you 10:21 < sten> blindy: that's not the problem. the problem is, for example in each .desc : [D] 0 kdebase-3.1.95.tar.bz2 ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/unstable/3.1.95/src/ 10:21 < sten> it's a pre-release or RC 10:21 < sten> I thought that it'd be faster to build manually, and use mkpkg 10:22 < blindy> ah, I see now 10:22 < blindy> ok 10:23 < sten> or do you think that if I updated everything to kde32-final-release, aka stable, that the patch[es] would be accepted? 10:24 < blindy> if you also test them beforehand in a complete build, they would, but I don't think you have that much time :) 10:25 < sten> blindy: ah. No, I'm not a big fan of the dROCK target. (too long to build!) 10:26 < sten> maybe if I had a ridiculously fast SMP box 10:26 < sten> .. 10:26 < blindy> that's the problem of long builds :/ 10:26 < blindy> looks like it's up to rxr after all :) 10:30 < sten> ;-) I've been thinking about working on the generic/minimal target. Providing both linux24 & linux26 ISO's, with the source for minimal+xfree on the other 65% of the CD 10:30 < sten> (the linux24 & linux26 iso's would be sepparate, of course) 10:30 < sten> although, strictly speaking, one shouldn't need the split... 10:32 < blindy> I don't know if you can have linux24 and 26 on one system 10:32 < blindy> changing the kernels on the fly 10:32 < blindy> I'm still using 24 and I think I will continue to do so for quite a while 10:39 -!- sten [~sten@24.64.187.183] has quit (Nick collision from services.) 10:39 -!- sten [~sten@24.64.187.183] has joined #rocklinux 10:40 < sten> I hate via... The uhci chipset on my router is really flakey. (I'm cursed with usb 802.11b NICs, because I can't run cables, and I don't have PCI 2.1, so no internal cards...good luck finding affordable ISA 802.11b) 10:41 < blindy> I'm also using 802.11b here 10:41 < sten> what chipset? 10:41 < blindy> quite nice actually 10:41 < blindy> Centrino :) 10:42 < sten> yeah, wireless is awesome on a laptop. (not so great if the only reason you can't get network connectivity to your desktop, is because you'd need to drill) 10:43 < sten> blindy: what's your best transfer speed? (I've gotten 1200KBs when the NICs were 5 cm away from each other, but I average ~500KBs, in Ad-Hoc mode) 10:44 < blindy> average 380kBsec with Linksys WRT54G AP 10:44 < blindy> my laptop is the only .b machine 10:44 < blindy> the rest is .g averaging at 800kB/sec 10:44 < sten> ah. 802.11g looks very nice ;-) (wish I could afford it) 10:45 < blindy> the AP and the NICs cost 100 EUR each 10:46 < sten> My NIC's sell for about 20 EUR each, because they were superceded/made obsolete by 802.11g replacements about 6-8 months ago. (but the sales were only this last month, and I bought them when they were 50 EUR each) 10:47 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@p508BB7BF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10:47 < blindy> I got them for christmas :) 10:48 < sten> the hardware's decent (based on the atmel chipset) but depends on the USB stability of the motherboard. (lucky to get tech gear as a gift ;-) 10:49 < blindy> my parents had no choice 10:49 < blindy> I told them without WLAN they'd never get Internet Connection on their machine ;) 10:50 < sten> :-) 11:02 < sten> Linux-2.6.2 is so great... On an Athlon-Tbird 750, with qt & libxslt compiling, 304MB RAM total, 128 MB swap... it's still responsive, and able to browse the internet easily (full graphics, 16bit) 11:03 < blindy> hmm 11:03 < blindy> haven't got that problem here, compile machine != work machine 11:08 < sten> blindy: actually, I was gushing about how a linux-2.6 system under load, is still usable 11:11 < blindy> I see 11:12 < sten> that sort of thing is important to me, because I don't upgrade very often 11:15 < blindy> I used to update quite often, but have I lost that a few months ago 11:16 < sten> hardware or software updates? (I tend to keep my base secure, and my gui cutting edge... only because kde isn't the most stable thing in the world, and upgrading really helps) 11:17 < blindy> both 11:17 < sten> I buy new hardware about once every five years 11:17 < blindy> my newest piece of hardware is the laptop (last December) and the one before my game machine (Dec 2001) 11:17 < sten> what kind of laptop? 11:18 < blindy> Acer Travelmate 661LCi 11:18 * sten yells NOOO, samba isn't supposed to use kernel spinlocks!?!?! It's USERSPACE 11:18 < sten> build failed... 11:18 < blindy> samba is partly userspace and partly kernelspace 11:19 < sten> blindy: ??? the SMB protocol is partly user, partly kernel, but the samba package? 11:20 < blindy> I remember hearing something about that at a company I was working for 11:20 < blindy> but I'm not entirely sure 11:21 < sten> don't worry about it. (how is the build quality of Acer laptops?) 11:22 < blindy> I really like it, although the button to release PCMCIA Cards "has room for improvements" 11:22 < blindy> ie: We bought about 20 laptops to get them quite a bit cheaper and on 5 laptops that button doesn't lock anymore 11:22 < blindy> it always sticks out 11:23 < blindy> and one laptop had fingerprints on the INSIDE of the display 11:23 < sten> weird 11:23 < blindy> aparte from that (which was quickly resolved, everyone got a new laptop :) everything is fine 11:24 < blindy> the cardreaders work like a charm, the hardware buttons for wlan are very useful and the battery lasts 5+ hours 11:24 < sten> I've been looking at IBM's factory refurbished ThinkPad program... X31's for ~1200 EUR 11:24 < sten> maybe closer to ~1100 11:24 < sten> (I'm not sure. I think in Canadian currency) 11:25 < blindy> esdentem_ knows quite a bit about those, having one himself 11:25 < sten> they don't have a cdrom :-) 11:25 < sten> (which makes me wonder how Apple crammed one into the iBook...) 11:26 < blindy> *grr* 11:26 < blindy> damn nfs >_< 11:27 < daja77> moin 11:27 < blindy> moin daja77 11:27 < daja77> moin blindy 11:29 < cytrinox> moin daja77 11:30 < daja77> hi cytrinox 11:54 -!- sten [~sten@24.64.187.183] has left #rocklinux () 11:58 -!- sten_ [~sten@24.64.187.183] has joined #rocklinux 11:58 < sten_> argh... I think linux26-headers is breaking all of my packages 12:00 < daja77> what packages do you have? 12:05 < sten_> daja77: it *certainly* breaks samba. (unless it is glibc, which is breaking samba, but I highly doubt that) 12:05 < sten_> daja77: jake has released patches for the base/* packages which linux26-headers breaks 12:08 < sten_> does a pentium II have SSE? 12:08 < sten_> or is it i686 + MMX? 12:08 < daja77> wyh shoul 2.6. headers break it, unless you selected it as default kernel? 12:08 < sten_> (I'm going to try building samba without any major optimizations) 12:09 < sten_> I'm running a pure 2.6 build 12:09 < sten_> no 2.4 whatsoever 12:09 < sten_> not even in stage 1 12:21 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD9502DC0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:22 < sten_> It think that I'm going to rebuild my target with linux24 headers, and a linux26 kernel. (it'd be best for stability) 12:22 < daja77> you mix it up, strange 12:34 < sten_> you do linux24 headers, linux24 kernel? 12:35 < sten_> linux26-headers and linux24 kernel would be the strangest, by far 12:35 < sten_> but that'd be a lot of work for nothing, imho 12:36 < daja77> yes sure i di linux24 and linux24-headers, why not? 12:37 < daja77> bbl 12:37 < sten_> they're stable, and that's good. (I like linux26, because my desktop stays responsive while running IO intensive background jobs) 13:49 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@p508BA92B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:54 < rxr> re 14:00 < rxr> is there some problem with the rock-linux mailing list ? 14:01 < jsaw> don't know, I can't reach any mail server currently...??? 14:02 < blindy> moin rxr 14:02 < blindy> rxr: why? I got some mails over it today 14:03 < rxr> blindy: can you sent a test mail to rene@rocklinux-consulting.de 14:03 < rxr> send even 14:03 < blindy> sent 14:04 < rxr> hm - do you get an error ? 14:04 < blindy> not yet 14:05 < rxr> can you send it again ... 14:05 < blindy> sent 14:06 < rxr> hm - damn does not arrive here ... 14:06 -!- sten_ [~sten@24.64.187.183] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:07 < rxr> blindy: could you retry? 14:07 < blindy> sent 14:08 < rxr> hm - what does you MTA do with the mail? 14:08 < rxr> does it get a MX record? 14:09 < netrunne1> rxr: netcatting to your mail.rocklinux-consulting.de smtp gives no answer 14:09 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 14:09 < blindy> mom, have to ssh into relay... 14:10 < netrunner> hi btw :) 14:10 < rxr> damn 14:11 < blindy> 141.64.23.209 14:11 < blindy> is that the MX? 14:11 < rxr> jups 14:11 < rxr> hm - maybe my university firewalls port 25 ... 14:11 < blindy> like netrunner said, telnet to that machine port 25 gives nothing... 14:11 < blindy> just hangs 14:14 < netrunner> no reply, packages are probably dropped 14:14 < netrunner> 14:08:58.409642 80.128.40.133.55087 > 141.64.23.209.smtp: SWE 2025606001:2025606001(0) win 5808 <mss 1452,sackOK,timestamp 441797440 0,nop,wscale 0> (DF) 14:14 < rxr> hm - oki thanks so far. I'll investigate ... 14:14 < rxr> cu later 14:14 < netrunner> cu rxr 14:15 < jsaw> now downloading kde 3.2.0... 14:19 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD9502DC0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 14:19 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD9502DC0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:24 -!- alanjwylie [~Alan@frogadsl-gw.adsl.legend.co.uk] has joined #rocklinux 14:32 < daja77> re 14:33 < jsaw> off to work, cu l8r 14:33 < daja77> cu jsaw 14:37 -!- k3t_ [k3t@pD9005757.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:44 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD9502DC0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 14:50 < daja77> https://www.stud.ntnu.no/~shane/stasj/pics/humor/div/377.html 15:22 * blindy off for some gaming 15:27 < rolla> have fun 15:27 < daja77> hi rolla 15:27 < rolla> hey daja77 15:40 < jsaw> re 15:41 < jsaw> wxWidgets? 15:41 < daja77> yep 15:45 < jsaw> how ridiculous. 15:47 < daja77> yep it is so good to protect names ... 15:49 < jsaw> Somebody should sue the world in the name of ms for using glass windows. 15:49 < jsaw> (or any other material suitable for making windows) 16:33 < jsaw> bbl 16:33 < rolla> :) 16:49 < netrunner> is there an alternative to hyperterminal? like good old terminate? 16:50 < daja77> putty? 16:52 < netrunner> daja77: does it handle the modem? 16:53 < daja77> never tried 16:55 < daja77> svn 1.0 ... 16:56 < darix> netrunner: teraterm 16:56 < darix> https://www.bluephod.net/virtual/news/newsDetail/10251/Hackertools_und_Wurmversteckung.html 16:56 < netrunner> *bemybaby!* https://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,6771,54108,00.html 16:57 < jsaw> re 17:02 < holyolli> re 17:38 -!- rolla [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-237.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has quit ("Changing server") 17:48 -!- axp [~axp@dsl-wien1-35-73.utaonline.at] has joined #rocklinux 18:08 -!- axp is now known as aXp 18:14 < holyolli> re 18:16 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@p50803431.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:16 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p50802885.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 18:31 < aXp> hi 18:32 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@p213.54.105.96.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:40 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@p213.54.105.96.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit ("There is no spoon.") 19:00 < jsaw> blindy: ping 19:02 < jsaw> hi aXp 19:05 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@p213.54.105.96.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:18 -!- cytrinox [~dj-nail2@p213.54.161.3.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit ("Client exiting") 19:18 -!- cytrinox [~dj-nail2@p213.54.161.3.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:25 -!- Aard [~bwachter@aardchat.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 19:28 < aXp> hi jsaw 19:30 -!- Aard [~bwachter@aardchat.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:37 < jsaw> what's going on, aXp? 19:45 -!- maisenhe [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-237.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:45 -!- maisenhe is now known as rolla 19:45 < rolla> re 19:46 < jsaw> wb rolla 19:46 < rolla> thanks 19:48 < aXp> jsaw, not much! iam thinking to switch to rocklinux :-) 19:48 < rolla> what do you use now? 19:51 < blindy> jsaw: ong 19:51 < jsaw> blindy: could you have a look at https://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/smadm.cgi?i=2004022318541713363 19:53 < blindy> looks good 20:10 -!- aXp [~axp@dsl-wien1-35-73.utaonline.at] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 20:10 -!- aXp [~axp@dsl-wien1-35-73.utaonline.at] has joined #rocklinux 21:13 * netrunne1 looks also good. 21:13 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 21:13 < daja77> https://www.pro-linux.de/news/2004/6495.html 21:18 < blindy> usual politics I'd say 21:18 < daja77> usual shit 21:19 < blindy> well, that's synonymous for politics, no? 21:19 < blindy> well, owl'd say this :) 21:19 < daja77> maybe true 21:29 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@p213.54.105.96.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:38 < owl> moin 21:39 < owl> <- shots media-markt again 21:40 < blindy> moin owly 21:40 < blindy> why?// 21:40 < owl> because i bought 2 cat-5 cables on 16.08.2003 - and they're DEAD!!! 21:41 < blindy> oehm... 21:41 < owl> and my fscking old hard-proven cat-5-cable which had the joy to be overflooded with coke, has broken noses... has fsckin link! *boooook* 21:41 < owl> oehm? 21:41 < blindy> nice :) 21:42 < owl> yeah, so - don't even buy a battery at media-markt. it will die very soon 21:43 < true> moin :p 21:46 -!- elon [~afgh@zwelf.in-dsl.de] has joined #rocklinux 22:16 -!- k3t_ is now known as trekkie3k 22:26 < holyolli> re 22:50 * rolla yawns 22:50 * daja77 too 22:50 < daja77> how did you know that 22:50 < rolla> :) 22:51 < darix> https://monsters.rsn.uni-rostock.de/~darix/irssi.html - any suggestions what to do add?:) 22:54 < holyolli> "To get the replaces like behavior add the completion " - after that line seems to be an error 22:54 < holyolli> darix: looks nice 22:54 < rolla> darix: are you rewirting that whole page? 22:54 < darix> rolla: no. i just update it :p 22:55 < rolla> do you help maintain irssi? 22:55 < darix> rolla: i maintain https://www.irssi.de./ :) 22:55 < darix> and maintained https://scripts.irssi.de./ 22:55 < darix> i moved it to tommie a while ago 22:55 < rolla> oh 22:55 < rolla> :) 22:56 < rolla> did you also write irssi? 22:56 < darix> no 22:56 < darix> thats cras' job :) 22:57 < darix> i only can debug C 22:57 < darix> i cant write it 22:57 < rolla> :) 22:57 < rolla> well then I have cras to thank for this great irssi :) 22:57 < darix> yeah!:) 22:58 < darix> but do you have any suggestions that might be usefull for others?:) 22:58 < darix> holyolli: i updated the page. check if the completions part is now more clear for you 22:58 < daja77> irssi rocks 22:58 < rolla> not at this time 22:59 < darix> daja77: i know this since over 3 years now :p 22:59 < rolla> ;) 22:59 < rolla> th got me started on irssi 22:59 < rolla> use to use BitchX 22:59 < daja77> darix: i do not chat that long 23:00 < holyolli> darix: sorry that i didn't write it in detail...i meant the "/ame&/asay" line in the chapter 'where are my completions/replaces gone?' which isn't alined correctly 23:00 < rolla> daja77: I have been on irc since 1996 23:01 < daja77> you are older than me :p 23:01 < rolla> yeah 23:01 < darix> its correct for me o.O 23:01 < darix> can you please screenshot it? 23:01 < daja77> what 23:03 < darix> daja77: i talk to holyolli :) 23:03 < darix> about his misaligned /amsg/ame thingie 23:04 -!- praenti [~praenti@biersorten.dyndns.org] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:04 -!- praenti [~praenti@biersorten.dyndns.org] has joined #rocklinux 23:04 -!- Netsplit wells.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: praenti 23:04 < daja77> darix: havent seen that part 23:04 < holyolli> darix: i'm on my way..mompl 23:04 < rolla> daja77: I have had many issues with irssi but I think I have them fixed now 23:05 < darix> rolla: why not ask them? 23:05 < darix> i guess i can help to fix them :) 23:05 < rolla> I think I have them fixed :) 23:05 < rolla> I just need to work on it some more to remember what they are ;) 23:06 -!- Netsplit over, joins: praenti 23:06 < darix> ic 23:06 -!- Netsplit wells.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: owl, mnemoc 23:06 -!- darix [darix@monsters.rsn.uni-rostock.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 23:06 -!- Netsplit over, joins: mnemoc, owl 23:07 < rolla> but thanks for the offer 23:07 < rolla> I will take you up on it in the future :) 23:08 < holyolli> where did he go? 23:08 < holyolli> rolla: btw. it's easier if you ship the stuff directly to germany 23:08 < rolla> okay 23:09 -!- darix [darix@monsters.rsn.uni-rostock.de] has joined #rocklinux 23:09 < rolla> let me find some nice size drives 23:09 < rolla> and I'll send them your way 23:09 < darix> that wasnt good 23:10 < darix> how to inspect a core file with gdb if it crashes GDB? 23:10 < darix> :O 23:10 < rolla> ;) 23:10 < blindy> that's a SH-Problem 23:13 -!- darix [darix@monsters.rsn.uni-rostock.de] has quit ("Changing server") 23:13 -!- darix [darix@monsters.rsn.uni-rostock.de] has joined #rocklinux 23:15 < darix> blindy: explain() 23:15 < darix> blindy: any way to work around it? 23:47 < darix> https://www.jamesoff.net/go/irssinative 23:48 < darix> https://www.irssi.de./ updated :) 23:49 -!- javisiu [~javier@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #RockLinux 23:49 -!- javisiu [~javier@odin.informatica.co.cr] has quit (Client Quit) 23:51 < blindy> darix: SH means Shouldn't Happen :) 23:51 < darix> blindy: :p --- Log closed Tue Feb 24 00:00:16 2004