--- Log opened Mon Feb 23 00:00:02 2004
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00:09 < axp> hi !
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00:17 < tfing> that was short
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00:30 < jsaw_> re
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00:30 < jsaw> hi all
00:32 < saskatoon> re
00:34 < A-Tui> n8 all
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02:41 < tsa> yES!
02:41 < tsa> fscking uucp finally works with the solaris box.
02:56 < SMP> you have a weird taste ;)
03:00 < tsa> ;-)
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05:11 < tfing> subversion 1.0 out !
05:12 < jsaw> wow
05:12 < tfing> but the subversion server has been slashdotted ;)
05:12 < jsaw> btw, I'm at base/5-gsl with binutils xxx.0.8 and gcc 3.3.3
05:14 < tfing> no errors on stage 1,2,3 with gcc 3.3.3 ?
05:14 < jsaw> uml-utilities and memtest86
05:14 < tfing> i read something about a replacement of memtest86
05:14 < tfing> something more portable
05:15 < jsaw> uml-utilities seems not gcc related (failed in 1 and is fine in 3)
05:16 < jsaw> replacement?
05:16 < tfing> memtest86+ (http://www.memtest.org/)
05:17 < jsaw> hmmm...
05:20 < jsaw> tfing: patch?
05:24 < tfing> i don't have time until march
05:25 < jsaw> oh
05:25 < tfing> got a report to finish and the presentation to work on
05:25 < tfing> that's the very end of my studies ;)
05:25 < jsaw> good luck!
05:26 < jsaw> btw, it's damn late. me moves to bed. cu l8r
05:26 < tfing> thx
05:26 < tfing> bye
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07:31 < sten> yay, I have a fast, stable *fully* (from stage 1 build) Linux 2.6 ROCK.
07:31 < sten> !
07:32 < sten> X is doing well, except that if I start "X" as a normal user, I get a kernel message about "disabling IRQ 11"
07:33 < sten> could somebody please explain
07:35 < tfing> what is on your irq 11 ?
07:37 < sten> tfing: my graphics card.  (isn't IRQ 11 the standard agp IRQ?)
07:38 < tfing>  11:  791656614          XT-PIC  yenta, yenta, uhci_hcd, Intel 82801CA-ICH3, eth0, radeon@PCI:1:0:0 <- i have a lot of things on my irq 11 :)
07:40 < sten> tfing: say, my soundcard is using the same IRQ... I've never noticed that before
07:40 < tfing> and not your ethernet card by any chance ?
07:41 < sten> tfing: no, that uses IRQ 9
07:42 < tfing> look at this http://bugs.xfree86.org/show_bug.cgi?id=314
07:43 < tfing> i don't know if that will solve your problem
07:43 < sten> tfing: heh, I'm an idiot...  I forgot I didn't have an group "wheel" in /etc/group...  
07:44 < sten> tfing: it was a kernel generated DRM message
07:44 < tfing> what's the link between the wheel group and irq 11 ?
07:44 < sten> tfing: my XF86Config specified that usage of DRI is limited to group wheel
07:44 < tfing> ok :)
07:44 < sten> tfing: DRI requires direct DMA transfers
07:45 < sten> :-)
07:46 < sten> tfing: say, I'm testing linux26 pure builds, and I'm wondering where I should report bugs to.  (module-init-utils isn't built for some odd reason)
07:46 < tfing> the mailing list is the most read place
07:46 < sten> tfing: thanks
07:46 < tfing> there is a bug tracker but ... well ...
07:48 < sten> tfing: flyspray?  Yeah, I've been keeping my eye on it for a while, and understant the ... well ...
07:48 < tfing> =)
07:48 < sten> s/understant/understand
07:59 < sten> brb, (switching to X, and unfortunately I forgot to screen this session)
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08:26 < sten> do I need to add all of my permission settings to /etc/devfsd.conf, or will they be automatically saved?  (its been a while since I used devfs)
08:27 < tfing> they are not saved
08:36 < sten> bummer, my /etc/devfsd is pretty empty.  (its SOOO boring to have to type all those permissions for each class of devices)  Can you dcc send me yours?
08:36 < tfing> don't you have anything in /etc/devfsd.d ?
08:37 < sten> yeah, I do, but nothing relating to permissions
08:37 < sten> don't no why...  (I'm running a homemade linux26 build, rev ??76, patched with Jake's patches)
08:37 < tfing> the config for what kind of stuff do you need ?
08:38 < sten> whoa... devfsd.d
08:39 < sten> I didn't know that existed
08:39 < sten> (I automatically assumed you said devfsd.conf... it's getting late)
08:39 < sten> this is really handy
08:39 < tfing> indeed :)
08:39 < tfing> it's like 3 am for you ?
08:41 < sten> no, the funny thing is it's just 12:35...  I must be sleep deprived or something.  (I have to get up at a reasonable hour tomorow though, so relatively speaking, it is more "late" at midnight tonight, then it was last night)
08:43 < sten> tfing: I forget the syntax...  Do I have to REGISTER a device, before I can change PERMISSIONS
08:44 < tfing> REGISTER is the action you intercept, it's when the device is created
08:45 < tfing> so it's not you who register the device
08:48 < sten> so can I:  PERMISSIONS root.games audio/* 0660
08:48 < sten> ?
08:48 < tfing> no, you do REGISTER audio/* PERMISSIONS root.users 0660
08:49 < sten> yeah, that looks right.  (when you said "it's not you who register the device, I became confused)
08:49 < tfing> that means, when a device in audio/* is registered, its permissions are changed 
08:49 < tfing> sorry for the confusion ;)
08:49 < sten> don't worry about it, I appreciate the help ;-)
08:50 < sten> tfing: what is the "games" group for anyway?
08:51 < tfing> it can be useful to make a distinction between people who can connect locally et those who connect remotely
08:52 < tfing> to prevent someone from suddenly playing a mp3 remotely and wake you up at 3 am :)
08:52 < sten> tfing: ahh.  That's what I was going to use it for. 
08:52 < sten> tfing: although I was even thinking of them spinning up my noisy cdrom
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08:56 < sten> tfing: I don't recognize /dev/snd/*.  Is that alsa, which then makes /dev/sound/* OSS emulation?
08:56 < tfing> indeed
09:02 < sten> twm seems different this Xfree release... (I've just moved from 4.3, to 4.3.99.???)
09:02 < sten> there's a close button where there used to be a resize button, for example
09:03 < sten> root is black, not grey
09:04 < tfing> the borders are still green ?
09:06 < sten> yup
09:07 < sten> that same green as the default win95 background.  (except where they are textured/grey fuzzed)
09:07 < tfing> the basics are still there then :)
09:07 < sten> :-)
09:08 < sten> I normally use kde, with the alloy style, done up in a colour scheme similar to mozilla breeze, with the feel and speed of BeOS
09:08 < sten> haven't compiled the beast yet though..
09:09 < sten> speaking of such things:  How do I get the kde32 branch into my rock-src?
09:10 < sten> I've never stepped out of trunk before.  (rxr assures me that the reason kde32 isn't in trunk, is because of a qt on PPC issue)
09:10 < tfing> sten: http://www.rocklinux.net/lurker/message/20031219.224037.6ac1ffcf.html
09:12 < sten> tfing: thank you
09:13 < sten> hmm, I wonder what "mostly builds" means
09:14 < tfing> the mail is 2 months old
09:15 < tfing> it can only be better since then =)
09:15 < sten> it's dangerous to make assumptions...  ;-)   (I'm going to give it a try, of course)
09:19 < sten> ew.  My console log says:  INIT: Id "X" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minute
09:19 < sten> s
09:20 < sten> that's weird.  That's the sort of thing that happens if one starts [g,k,x]dm with a broken XF86Config
09:36 < sten> bummer...  kde32 branch isn't kde-3.2-release.  It's kde-3.1.95 ;-(
09:46 < blindy> WOOHOOOOO! Subversion 1.0!
10:13 < sten> what is the command that makes a mine out of an untarred, uncompiled packages?  (it checks configuration method, builds, then creates the mine)
10:14 < blindy>     mine -C var-adm-dir package-tar-bz2 package-name gem-file
10:15 < blindy> oh
10:15 < blindy> sorry
10:15 < blindy> misread that... what do you want to do?
10:15 < blindy> build a package that is not in package/ but have it under mine's package system?
10:15 < sten> yeah
10:16 < blindy> then you must configure and compile the package manually, then run:
10:16 < blindy> mkpkg <pkg-name> <install-method>
10:16 < blindy> example:
10:16 < blindy> mkpkg kdepim make install
10:17 < sten> thanks.  I thought that it would be faster to do it this way, then to update rxr's kde32 branch.  (it seems to be kde-3.1.95, which I'm not interested in)
10:18 < blindy> there is a script for updating the kde dir
10:19 < blindy> it's package/kde32/update-kde.sh
10:19 < blindy> you can have a look at that, maybe it can help you
10:21 < sten> blindy: that's not the problem.  the problem is, for example in each .desc :  [D] 0 kdebase-3.1.95.tar.bz2 ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/unstable/3.1.95/src/
10:21 < sten> it's a pre-release or RC
10:21 < sten> I thought that it'd be faster to build manually, and use mkpkg
10:22 < blindy> ah, I see now
10:22 < blindy> ok
10:23 < sten> or do you think that if I updated everything to kde32-final-release, aka stable, that the patch[es] would be accepted?
10:24 < blindy> if you also test them beforehand in a complete build, they would, but I don't think you have that much time :)
10:25 < sten> blindy: ah.  No, I'm not a big fan of the dROCK target.  (too long to build!)
10:26 < sten> maybe if I had a ridiculously fast SMP box
10:26 < sten> ..
10:26 < blindy> that's the problem of long builds :/
10:26 < blindy> looks like it's up to rxr after all :)
10:30 < sten> ;-)  I've been thinking about working on the generic/minimal target.  Providing both linux24 & linux26 ISO's, with the source for minimal+xfree on the other 65% of the CD
10:30 < sten> (the linux24 & linux26 iso's would be sepparate, of course)
10:30 < sten> although, strictly speaking, one shouldn't need the split...
10:32 < blindy> I don't know if you can have linux24 and 26 on one system
10:32 < blindy> changing the kernels on the fly
10:32 < blindy> I'm still using 24 and I think I will continue to do so for quite a while
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10:40 < sten> I hate via...  The uhci chipset on my router is really flakey.  (I'm cursed with usb 802.11b NICs, because I can't run cables, and I don't have PCI 2.1, so no internal cards...good luck finding affordable ISA 802.11b)
10:41 < blindy> I'm also using 802.11b here
10:41 < sten> what chipset?
10:41 < blindy> quite nice actually
10:41 < blindy> Centrino :)
10:42 < sten> yeah, wireless is awesome on a laptop.  (not so great if the only reason you can't get network connectivity to your desktop, is because you'd need to drill)
10:43 < sten> blindy:  what's your best transfer speed?  (I've gotten 1200KBs when the NICs were 5 cm away from each other, but I average ~500KBs, in Ad-Hoc mode)
10:44 < blindy> average 380kBsec with Linksys WRT54G AP
10:44 < blindy> my laptop is the only .b machine
10:44 < blindy> the rest is .g averaging at 800kB/sec
10:44 < sten> ah.  802.11g looks very nice ;-)  (wish I could afford it)
10:45 < blindy> the AP and the NICs cost 100 EUR each
10:46 < sten> My NIC's sell for about 20 EUR each, because they were superceded/made obsolete by 802.11g replacements about 6-8 months ago.  (but the sales were only this last month, and I bought them when they were 50 EUR each)
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10:47 < blindy> I got them for christmas :)
10:48 < sten> the hardware's decent (based on the atmel chipset) but depends on the USB stability of the motherboard.  (lucky to get tech gear as a gift ;-)
10:49 < blindy> my parents had no choice
10:49 < blindy> I told them without WLAN they'd never get Internet Connection on their machine ;)
10:50 < sten> :-)
11:02 < sten> Linux-2.6.2 is so great...  On an Athlon-Tbird 750, with qt & libxslt compiling, 304MB RAM total, 128 MB swap... it's still responsive, and able to browse the internet easily (full graphics, 16bit)
11:03 < blindy> hmm
11:03 < blindy> haven't got that problem here, compile machine != work machine
11:08 < sten> blindy: actually, I was gushing about how a linux-2.6 system under load, is still usable
11:11 < blindy> I see
11:12 < sten> that sort of thing is important to me, because I don't upgrade very often
11:15 < blindy> I used to update quite often, but have I lost that a few months ago
11:16 < sten> hardware or software updates?  (I tend to keep my base secure, and my gui cutting edge... only because kde isn't the most stable thing in the world, and upgrading really helps)
11:17 < blindy> both
11:17 < sten> I buy new hardware about once every five years
11:17 < blindy> my newest piece of hardware is the laptop (last December) and the one before my game machine (Dec 2001)
11:17 < sten> what kind of laptop?
11:18 < blindy> Acer Travelmate 661LCi
11:18 * sten yells NOOO, samba isn't supposed to use kernel spinlocks!?!?!  It's USERSPACE
11:18 < sten> build failed...
11:18 < blindy> samba is partly userspace and partly kernelspace
11:19 < sten> blindy: ???  the SMB protocol is partly user, partly kernel, but the samba package?
11:20 < blindy> I remember hearing something about that at a company I was working for
11:20 < blindy> but I'm not entirely sure
11:21 < sten> don't worry about it.  (how is the build quality of Acer laptops?)
11:22 < blindy> I really like it, although the button to release PCMCIA Cards "has room for improvements"
11:22 < blindy> ie: We bought about 20 laptops to get them quite a bit cheaper and on 5 laptops that button doesn't lock anymore
11:22 < blindy> it always sticks out
11:23 < blindy> and one laptop had fingerprints on the INSIDE of the display
11:23 < sten> weird
11:23 < blindy> aparte from that (which was quickly resolved, everyone got a new laptop :) everything is fine
11:24 < blindy> the cardreaders work like a charm, the hardware buttons for wlan are very useful and the battery lasts 5+ hours
11:24 < sten> I've been looking at IBM's factory refurbished ThinkPad program...  X31's for ~1200 EUR
11:24 < sten> maybe closer to ~1100
11:24 < sten> (I'm not sure.  I think in Canadian currency)
11:25 < blindy> esdentem_ knows quite a bit about those, having one himself
11:25 < sten> they don't have a cdrom :-)
11:25 < sten> (which makes me wonder how Apple crammed one into the iBook...)
11:26 < blindy> *grr*
11:26 < blindy> damn nfs >_<
11:27 < daja77> moin
11:27 < blindy> moin daja77 
11:27 < daja77> moin blindy 
11:29 < cytrinox> moin daja77
11:30 < daja77> hi cytrinox 
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11:58 < sten_> argh...  I think linux26-headers is breaking all of my packages
12:00 < daja77> what packages do you have?
12:05 < sten_> daja77: it *certainly* breaks samba.  (unless it is glibc, which is breaking samba, but I highly doubt that)
12:05 < sten_> daja77: jake has released patches for the base/* packages which linux26-headers breaks
12:08 < sten_> does a pentium II have SSE?
12:08 < sten_> or is it i686 + MMX?
12:08 < daja77> wyh shoul 2.6. headers break it, unless you selected it as default kernel?
12:08 < sten_> (I'm going to try building samba without any major optimizations)
12:09 < sten_> I'm running a pure 2.6 build
12:09 < sten_> no 2.4 whatsoever
12:09 < sten_> not even in stage 1
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12:22 < sten_> It think that I'm going to rebuild my target with linux24 headers, and a linux26 kernel.  (it'd be best for stability)
12:22 < daja77> you mix it up, strange
12:34 < sten_> you do linux24 headers, linux24 kernel?
12:35 < sten_> linux26-headers and linux24 kernel would be the strangest, by far
12:35 < sten_> but that'd be a lot of work for nothing, imho
12:36 < daja77> yes sure i di linux24 and linux24-headers, why not?
12:37 < daja77> bbl
12:37 < sten_> they're stable, and that's good.  (I like linux26, because my desktop stays responsive while running IO intensive background jobs)
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13:54 < rxr> re
14:00 < rxr> is there some problem with the rock-linux mailing list ?
14:01 < jsaw> don't know, I can't reach any mail server currently...???
14:02 < blindy> moin rxr
14:02 < blindy> rxr: why? I got some mails over it today
14:03 < rxr> blindy: can you sent a test mail to rene@rocklinux-consulting.de 
14:03 < rxr> send even
14:03 < blindy> sent
14:04 < rxr> hm - do you get an error ?
14:04 < blindy> not yet
14:05 < rxr> can you send it again ...
14:05 < blindy> sent
14:06 < rxr> hm - damn does not arrive here ...
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14:07 < rxr> blindy: could you retry?
14:07 < blindy> sent
14:08 < rxr> hm - what does you MTA do with the mail?
14:08 < rxr> does it get a MX record?
14:09 < netrunne1> rxr: netcatting to your mail.rocklinux-consulting.de smtp gives no answer
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14:09 < blindy> mom, have to ssh into relay...
14:10 < netrunner> hi btw :)
14:10 < rxr> damn
14:11 < blindy> 141.64.23.209
14:11 < blindy> is that the MX?
14:11 < rxr> jups
14:11 < rxr> hm - maybe my university firewalls port 25 ...
14:11 < blindy> like netrunner said, telnet to that machine port 25 gives nothing...
14:11 < blindy> just hangs
14:14 < netrunner> no reply, packages are probably dropped
14:14 < netrunner> 14:08:58.409642 80.128.40.133.55087 > 141.64.23.209.smtp: SWE 2025606001:2025606001(0) win 5808 <mss 1452,sackOK,timestamp 441797440 0,nop,wscale 0> (DF)
14:14 < rxr> hm - oki thanks so far. I'll investigate ...
14:14 < rxr> cu later
14:14 < netrunner> cu rxr 
14:15 < jsaw> now downloading kde 3.2.0...
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14:32 < daja77> re
14:33 < jsaw> off to work, cu l8r
14:33 < daja77> cu jsaw 
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14:50 < daja77> http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~shane/stasj/pics/humor/div/377.html
15:22 * blindy off for some gaming
15:27 < rolla> have fun
15:27 < daja77> hi rolla 
15:27 < rolla> hey daja77 
15:40 < jsaw> re
15:41 < jsaw> wxWidgets?
15:41 < daja77> yep
15:45 < jsaw> how ridiculous.
15:47 < daja77> yep it is so good to protect names ...
15:49 < jsaw> Somebody should sue the world in the name of ms for using glass windows.
15:49 < jsaw> (or any other material suitable for making windows)
16:33 < jsaw> bbl
16:33 < rolla> :)
16:49 < netrunner> is there an alternative to hyperterminal? like good old terminate?
16:50 < daja77> putty?
16:52 < netrunner> daja77: does it handle the modem?
16:53 < daja77> never tried
16:55 < daja77> svn 1.0 ...
16:56 < darix> netrunner: teraterm
16:56 < darix> http://www.bluephod.net/virtual/news/newsDetail/10251/Hackertools_und_Wurmversteckung.html
16:56 < netrunner> *bemybaby!* http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,6771,54108,00.html
16:57 < jsaw> re
17:02 < holyolli> re
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18:14 < holyolli> re
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18:31 < aXp> hi
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19:00 < jsaw> blindy: ping
19:02 < jsaw> hi aXp 
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19:28 < aXp> hi jsaw 
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19:37 < jsaw> what's going on, aXp?
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19:45 < rolla> re
19:46 < jsaw> wb rolla 
19:46 < rolla> thanks
19:48 < aXp> jsaw, not much! iam thinking to switch to rocklinux :-)
19:48 < rolla> what do you use now?
19:51 < blindy> jsaw: ong
19:51 < jsaw> blindy: could you have a look at https://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/smadm.cgi?i=2004022318541713363
19:53 < blindy> looks good
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21:13 * netrunne1 looks also good.
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21:13 < daja77> http://www.pro-linux.de/news/2004/6495.html 
21:18 < blindy> usual politics I'd say
21:18 < daja77> usual shit
21:19 < blindy> well, that's synonymous for politics, no?
21:19 < blindy> well, owl'd say this :)
21:19 < daja77> maybe true
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21:38 < owl> moin
21:39 < owl> <- shots media-markt again
21:40 < blindy> moin owly
21:40 < blindy> why?//
21:40 < owl> because i bought 2 cat-5 cables on 16.08.2003 - and they're DEAD!!!
21:41 < blindy> oehm...
21:41 < owl> and my fscking old hard-proven cat-5-cable which had the joy to be overflooded with coke, has broken noses... has fsckin link! *boooook*
21:41 < owl> oehm?
21:41 < blindy> nice :)
21:42 < owl> yeah, so - don't even buy a battery at media-markt. it will die very soon
21:43 < true> moin :p
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22:26 < holyolli> re
22:50 * rolla yawns
22:50 * daja77 too
22:50 < daja77> how did you know that
22:50 < rolla> :)
22:51 < darix> http://monsters.rsn.uni-rostock.de/~darix/irssi.html - any suggestions what to do add?:)
22:54 < holyolli> "To get the replaces like behavior add the completion " - after that line seems to be an error
22:54 < holyolli> darix: looks nice
22:54 < rolla> darix: are you rewirting that whole page?
22:54 < darix> rolla: no. i just update it :p
22:55 < rolla> do you help maintain irssi?
22:55 < darix> rolla: i maintain http://www.irssi.de./ :)
22:55 < darix> and maintained http://scripts.irssi.de./ 
22:55 < darix> i moved it to tommie a while ago
22:55 < rolla> oh
22:55 < rolla> :) 
22:56 < rolla> did you also write irssi?
22:56 < darix> no
22:56 < darix> thats cras' job :)
22:57 < darix> i only can debug C
22:57 < darix> i cant write it 
22:57 < rolla> :)
22:57 < rolla> well then I have cras to thank for this great irssi :)
22:57 < darix> yeah!:)
22:58 < darix> but do you have any suggestions that  might be usefull for others?:)
22:58 < darix> holyolli: i updated the page. check if the completions part is now more clear for you
22:58 < daja77> irssi rocks
22:58 < rolla> not at this time
22:59 < darix> daja77: i know this since over 3 years now :p
22:59 < rolla> ;)
22:59 < rolla> th got me started on irssi
22:59 < rolla> use to use BitchX
22:59 < daja77> darix: i do not chat that long
23:00 < holyolli> darix: sorry that i didn't write it in detail...i meant the "/ame&/asay" line in the chapter 'where are my completions/replaces gone?' which isn't alined correctly
23:00 < rolla> daja77: I have been on irc since 1996
23:01 < daja77> you are older than me :p
23:01 < rolla> yeah
23:01 < darix> its correct for me o.O
23:01 < darix> can you please screenshot it?
23:01 < daja77> what
23:03 < darix> daja77: i talk to holyolli :)
23:03 < darix> about his misaligned /amsg/ame thingie
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23:04 < daja77> darix: havent seen that part
23:04 < holyolli> darix: i'm on my way..mompl
23:04 < rolla> daja77: I have had many issues with irssi but I think I have them fixed now
23:05 < darix> rolla: why not ask them?
23:05 < darix> i guess i can help to fix them :)
23:05 < rolla> I think I have them fixed :)
23:05 < rolla> I just need to work on it some more to remember what they are ;)
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23:06 < darix> ic
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23:07 < rolla> but thanks for the offer 
23:07 < rolla> I will take you up on it in the future :)
23:08 < holyolli> where did he go?
23:08 < holyolli> rolla: btw. it's easier if you ship the stuff directly to germany
23:08 < rolla> okay
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23:09 < rolla> let me find some nice size drives
23:09 < rolla> and I'll send them your way
23:09 < darix> that wasnt good 
23:10 < darix> how to inspect a core file with gdb if it crashes GDB?
23:10 < darix> :O
23:10 < rolla> ;)
23:10 < blindy> that's a SH-Problem
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23:15 < darix> blindy: explain()
23:15 < darix> blindy: any way to work around it?
23:47 < darix> http://www.jamesoff.net/go/irssinative
23:48 < darix> http://www.irssi.de./ updated :)
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23:51 < blindy> darix: SH means Shouldn't Happen :)
23:51 < darix> blindy: :p
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