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--- Log opened Wed Feb 25 00:00:30 2004 00:30 -!- Netsplit wells.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: owl, mnemoc 00:31 -!- Netsplit over, joins: owl 00:32 -!- Netsplit over, joins: mnemoc 00:41 -!- __spectre__ [~spectre@p50820D2F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 00:58 -!- _spectre_ [~spectre@p5082085E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:09 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-29-178.reverse.qsc.de] has quit ("Leaving") 01:33 < cytrinox> gn8 01:46 -!- batok [~chatzilla@dsl-200-78-127-253.prod-infinitum.com.mx] has joined #rocklinux 01:56 -!- tfing_ is now known as tfing 02:16 -!- kandinski is now known as kandinski_Zzz 02:22 -!- batok [~chatzilla@dsl-200-78-127-253.prod-infinitum.com.mx] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.59p [Mozilla rv:1.6/20040206]") 02:44 -!- cytrinox [~dj-nail2@p213.54.153.172.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 03:03 -!- opticcow [~opticcow@pcp03424211pcs.longhl01.md.comcast.net] has joined #rocklinux 03:06 < opticcow> hello 03:11 -!- kandinski_Zzz [~kandinski@80-28-218-87.adsl.nuria.telefonica-data.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 03:38 -!- opticcow [~opticcow@pcp03424211pcs.longhl01.md.comcast.net] has left #rocklinux ("Leaving") 03:51 -!- blindy_ [~blindcode@pD9E4F7BC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 03:52 -!- blindy [~blindcode@pD9E4F5C1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Nick collision from services.) 03:52 -!- blindy_ is now known as blindy 04:09 -!- theDevil- [~X@3E6B27F3.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit (""A cynic" is what an idealist calls a realist") 04:44 < rolla> re 06:36 -!- d3mian [~demian@196.40.64.241] has joined #rocklinux 07:17 -!- d3mian [~demian@196.40.64.241] has quit ("Lost terminal") 07:50 -!- d3mian [~demian@196.40.64.241] has joined #rocklinux 07:54 -!- d3mian [~demian@196.40.64.241] has quit (Client Quit) 10:47 -!- Netsplit wells.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: praenti, __spectre__, fake, darix, rxr 10:48 -!- Netsplit over, joins: praenti, __spectre__, darix, fake 10:48 -!- Netsplit over, joins: rxr 11:16 < daja77> moin 11:24 < netrunner> moin daja77 11:24 < daja77> hi netrunner 11:26 * daja77 thinking about using fedora and building rpms fpr clt 11:28 -!- netcrow [~netcrow@2001:8d8:80:11:0:0:0:4d] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 11:28 -!- netcrow [~netcrow@2001:8d8:80:11:0:0:0:4d] has joined #rocklinux 11:31 -!- kandinski [~kandinski@80.28.219.81] has joined #rocklinux 11:35 < daja77> only 10 days to get a working distro 11:53 -!- kandinski is now known as kandinski_work 12:56 < mnemoc> moin =) 12:56 < mnemoc> .oO( 730 new mails :'( )o 13:00 -!- cytrinox [~dj-nail2@p213.54.153.172.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:02 < cytrinox> moin 13:13 < mnemoc> moin 13:48 -!- jsaw_ [~jsaw@p508BB791.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:57 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@p508B9E30.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 14:08 < daja77> re 14:13 < mnemoc> moin daja77 14:13 < daja77> moin mnemoc 14:13 < mnemoc> knoppix-clt r.i.p.? 14:14 < daja77> hm? 14:14 < mnemoc> * daja77 thinking about using fedora and building rpms fpr clt 14:14 < daja77> nah for games demo 14:15 < daja77> not much games on knoppix, and no space left 14:15 < mnemoc> =) 14:15 < daja77> maybe i try with rock, but i dunno if the base is stabke again and stuff 14:17 < mnemoc> for minimal and my x-less target only uml_utilities is broken 14:17 < mnemoc> no idea about X'ed targets 14:17 < daja77> don't need uml 14:31 < rxr> re 14:31 < rxr> ok - the rocklinux-consulting.de server will move now again 14:31 < rxr> and so my mail will also be back online again ... 14:31 < rxr> cu in a hour ... 14:32 -!- rxr [~rene@141.64.23.209] has quit ("leaving") 14:32 < daja77> oh rxr was here 14:33 * daja77 np: Julia Ecklar - God wrote in Lisp 14:39 -!- k3t_ [k3t@pD95028B9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:49 < rolla> re 14:49 < daja77> wb rolla 14:53 < rolla> thanks 14:53 * rolla is fighting with getting linux loaded on his alpha 14:54 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD900577D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:55 * daja77 laughing at that song 14:57 < rolla> song? 15:00 < daja77> 14:28 * daja77 np: Julia Ecklar - God wrote in Lisp 15:11 < jsaw_> re 15:11 < jsaw_> hi all 15:11 < mnemoc> re jsaw_ 15:11 -!- jsaw_ is now known as jsaw 15:12 < jsaw> hi mnemoc 15:20 * rolla wants all spammers to die 15:20 * daja77 too 15:21 * rolla goes to reconfig his spamassissan and set it to kill 15:21 < daja77> remote kill 15:33 < rolla> wow so many people and such a dead channel 15:44 < mnemoc> commit-less project makes a dead channel and a dead list :( 15:46 < daja77> ack 15:47 -!- rene [~rene@port-212-202-42-187.reverse.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:47 < rene> re 15:47 -!- rene is now known as rxr 15:47 < mnemoc> :) 15:47 < mnemoc> wb rxr 15:47 < daja77> hi rxr 15:48 < clifford> hi rxr. 15:48 < clifford> what exactly was the glibc problem when you did the amd64 port? 15:49 < daja77> hi clifford! 15:49 < rxr> clifford: linking errors - and also the kernel got mixed 32bit vs. 64bit code 15:49 < rxr> clifford: take a look into the regression tester 15:49 < clifford> hmmm.. 15:49 < rxr> but I did not a full port - just tinkering around a few minutes here and then ... 15:50 < rxr> otherwise it would probably already be solved ... 15:50 < clifford> I've built a 64 bit useland manually now just to run a few apps in 64 bit mode on a standard debian woody. 15:50 < clifford> I had no problems at all.. 15:51 < clifford> (as soon as UML is ported to x86_64 we have an amd64 test system, btw.) 15:52 < daja77> cool 15:52 < daja77> btw can you all tell when do you plan to come :) 15:53 < clifford> does fake know already? I want to join him in munich.. 15:53 < daja77> haven't spoke to him for a few days 15:54 < rxr> clifford: aha - so probaly some generic cross setup issue in our scripts ... 15:54 < rxr> clifford: would be nice if you could verify this ... 15:55 < clifford> I can't use the hardware for that right now. 15:56 < mnemoc> great to see such an interest in cross-stuff.. but what about the old but classic x86 and it's stabilization? 15:56 < jsaw> :) 15:58 < jsaw> btw, rxr: the e17 stuff must be reordered... 15:59 < clifford> rxr: after looking at the reg. tester logs: this is a missing -rpath-link to collect2. 15:59 < clifford> I just added that to my specs file manually.. ;-) 16:00 < clifford> that also explains why it is working with dietlibc: no dynamic loader and it's liker magic. 16:00 < daja77> clifford: how was fosdem= 16:00 < clifford> daja77: I haven't been there. 16:01 < daja77> why 16:01 < clifford> no time and no money. 16:01 < daja77> ic 16:01 < daja77> but you'll be there in 9 days? 16:01 < clifford> yup. then I've got money... 16:02 < daja77> cool 16:02 < clifford> but until then I need to decide if I will spend the remaining 16 Euros and 30 cent in fuel or food ... ;-( 16:02 < daja77> btw can i switch to a branch in submaster? 16:03 < clifford> oh. not straight-forward, no. 16:03 < daja77> that's what i feared 16:03 < jsaw> daja77: the kde thing? 16:03 < daja77> yep 16:04 < daja77> got errors ... 16:04 < jsaw> I have a patch if u want? 16:04 < daja77> for kde 3.2 stable? 16:05 < daja77> that would do the trick ... 16:05 < jsaw> yep (not tested yet, build still running. And a few rough edges, qt = qt33 but the variables have not been updated yet) 16:05 < daja77> i could try 16:05 < daja77> need a new rock for clt 16:05 < daja77> and have to add some games too 16:06 < jsaw> I have still tons of patches in my queue. I'll put the kde patch on sm tonight, ok? 16:06 < daja77> mail? 16:07 < jsaw> mail not from the lab I'm afraid... 16:07 < daja77> k. have write my studienarbeit anyway 16:07 < daja77> cu later 16:08 < mnemoc> cu daja77 16:08 < blindy> hi hi and rehi 16:08 < jsaw> hi blindy 16:08 < mnemoc> hi blindy 16:09 < jsaw> blindy: sam (from sdl) is a nice guy 16:10 < blindy> jsaw: why? 16:10 * clifford is away again.. 16:11 < jsaw> blindy: remember my patch for libsdl? We're discussing this since a few emails. Seems like I ran into a compiler bug. 16:12 < blindy> ouch 16:31 < darix> hi clifford 16:34 < rxr> so - rehi 16:38 < daja77> :) 16:50 < rxr> lurker behaves strange ... 16:50 < rxr> has clifford asnwered to any of the recent stable/devel tree and so subversion write access mails ? 16:56 < daja77> some days ago 17:00 < jsaw> daja77: rxr was faster... 17:01 < rxr> jsaw: hm? 17:01 < jsaw> ...merging kde32 17:02 < rxr> jsaw: daja77: so no new mail from Clifford about that topic after my and mnemoc's mails? 17:03 < jsaw> yes, no new mail from cliff 17:03 < rxr> hm 17:04 < rxr> if clifford does not want write access in trunk for 2.1 I'll run an alternative branch like rock-open-trunk or so 17:04 < rxr> otherwise it will slow down me far too much 17:06 < daja77> what do you mean 17:07 < daja77> jsaw: yes in the branch not in trunk 17:08 < rolla> grrr 17:08 < jsaw> Added: 17:08 < jsaw> trunk/package/kde/ 17:08 < jsaw> Removed: 17:08 < jsaw> trunk/package/kde31/ 17:09 < jsaw> 2380! 17:09 < daja77> ah cool 17:10 < rxr> yeah - net at home would rock 17:10 < rxr> but at least the server back at Valentin's new home is good enought - and I have someone to serve tea, too ;-) 17:10 < jsaw> :) 17:12 < daja77> have fun 17:18 < blindy> WEE! nas works ^_^ 17:26 < blindy> but killing my 400kB 802.11b connection >_< 17:40 < rxr> vi /etc/exports 17:40 < rxr> oO ... ;-) 17:41 < mnemoc> :) 17:43 < rxr> at leat not as worse as: 17:43 < rxr> passwd root 17:43 < rxr> tell_the_rockers 17:43 < rxr> ... 17:43 < blindy> MUAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 17:43 < blindy> IP-over-Firewire RULES 17:43 < rxr> blindy: I just to 17:43 < rxr> masqueraded over another iBook ... 17:44 < rxr> (forgot my Airport card at home ...) 17:44 -!- togg [~togg@pD9E5B549.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:44 < blindy> rxr: my Centrino is too slow for nas, so I just plugged the firewire cable I had lying around into the main machine and the laptop :) 17:57 < rxr> what kind of NAS ? 17:58 < blindy> Network Attached Sound :) 17:58 < daja77> that reminds me of that ldp misuse for jukeboxes article i read today 18:05 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@p50803321.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:07 < blindy> damn... 18:07 < blindy> _never_ _ever_ remove the 1394 cable while the fw-eth-device is up... 18:08 < jsaw> _never_ _ever_ switch of an external SCSI device that is not hotplug capable... 18:08 < blindy> heh 18:09 < blindy> both of my machines panic'ed, what happened to your disk? 18:09 < jsaw> (i have an external scsi cd burner on my desk. I switched it of once... panic) 18:09 < jsaw> not immediately, but on next bus access... 18:10 < rxr> rehi 18:10 < blindy> well, guess it's the best thing the kernel can do 18:11 < rxr> blindy: nope - write out an error into syslog 18:11 < rxr> but not panic 18:11 < rxr> linux has very bad error recovery 18:11 * jsaw goes modern-times-hunting for food 18:11 < jsaw> bbl 18:12 < mnemoc> uhm? 18:12 < blindy> rxr: that would be appropriate for a hotplug-capable device, but a non-hotplug-device? 18:12 < rxr> and here out two iBooks also just froze during high eth1394 netork i/o ... 18:12 < rxr> depends on how the bus behaves after that - if the bus is dead - write out timeouts into syslog and retry ... 18:12 < blindy> rxr: I can easily copy between both machines with 1.5MB/sec using scp and they don't freeze, but if I pull the plug... 18:12 < rxr> but never ever corrupt kernel memory - or freeze ... 18:13 < jsaw> rxr: in case of non-hotplug: checking for existance of device each time adds to much overhead 18:13 < rxr> jsaw: check on error ... 18:13 < blindy> best case would be to disable the whole SCSI-Bus to prevent data loss 18:13 < rxr> blindy: here too - but pushing NFS traffic which was masqueraded over w-lan was too much for the driver .. 18:13 < blindy> I see 18:14 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p508032FB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 18:21 < blindy> hmm 18:21 < blindy> strange... 18:21 < blindy> from kilbourne to fuzzy I get up to 3MB/sec 18:21 < blindy> from fuzzy to kilbourne I only get a few hundred kB 18:26 < blindy> wtf are tlabels? 18:26 < rxr> often mean: technology labels in terms of version control 18:26 < rxr> where do you see those ? 18:28 < blindy> eth1394: No more tlabels left while sending to node 0-01:1023 18:28 < daja77> cool so i can start download kde32 soon 18:32 -!- hEaDbAnG [~maya@pD9E81123.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:33 < hEaDbAnG> hello 18:33 < daja77> hallo maya 18:33 < hEaDbAnG> had everyone the same problems with binutils, the tests failed... 18:34 < hEaDbAnG> !> ./test-demangle: 715 tests, 31 failures 18:35 < hEaDbAnG> can i deactivate the string to test every package without abort the building process? 18:37 < rxr> hEaDbAnG: you use ROCK Linux to build the packages ? 18:37 < hEaDbAnG> yes 18:38 < hEaDbAnG> now its building gettext 18:38 < hEaDbAnG> but binutils failed... 18:39 < rxr> normally thoses tests are not run - you must have explicitly enabled them in scripts/Config 18:39 < rxr> it is in the expert options section - somwhere at the buttom of the first main option list ... 18:40 < hEaDbAnG> i know 18:40 < hEaDbAnG> i enabled it 18:40 -!- spyspy [~root@pD952D65C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:40 < hEaDbAnG> but can i disable it, without aborting the building process? 18:40 -!- spyspy [~root@pD952D65C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Client Quit) 18:42 < hEaDbAnG> it would cost me about 4 hrs :/ 18:42 < hEaDbAnG> (sry for my bad english...) 18:42 < blindy> you can take up the build process where it stopped 18:43 < hEaDbAnG> ah 18:43 < hEaDbAnG> nice 18:43 < hEaDbAnG> thx i will cancel it after gettext is ready 18:45 < hEaDbAnG> will binutils build automatic one more time ? after resuming the building process? 18:47 < blindy> if you checked retry building broken packages, yes 18:47 < hEaDbAnG> k 18:50 -!- batok [~chatzilla@customer-148-233-85-130.uninet-ide.com.mx] has joined #rocklinux 19:07 < hEaDbAnG> thx it works now 19:10 -!- __spectre__ [~spectre@p50820D2F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 19:18 -!- _spectre_ [~spectre@p50820D2F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:19 < hEaDbAnG> mount: fs type devfs not supported by kernel 19:19 < hEaDbAnG> ./scripts/Build-Pkg: line 205: chroot: command not found 19:19 < hEaDbAnG> :( 19:21 < mnemoc> hEaDbAnG: what version are you building? 19:23 < hEaDbAnG> generic with 2.0.0-rc4 19:24 -!- _spectre_ [~spectre@p50820D2F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 19:24 < hEaDbAnG> kernel was 2.4.23 imho 19:25 < mnemoc> devfs requirement was removed at rev2084 19:25 < hEaDbAnG> hm 19:25 < mnemoc> i guess that was right after rc4 tag... or not? 19:26 < mnemoc> hEaDbAnG: can you update your rock-src? 19:26 < hEaDbAnG> is rc4 not the newest version? 19:26 < rxr> nope 19:26 < hEaDbAnG> oh 19:26 < hEaDbAnG> shit 19:26 < hEaDbAnG> :> 19:26 < mnemoc> trunk is newest version :) 19:27 < rxr> hEaDbAnG: or do you mean last tarball release - yeah might be rc4 ... 19:27 < hEaDbAnG> yeah tarball 19:29 -!- _spectre_ [~spectre@p50820D2F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:29 < hEaDbAnG> what have i to do? 19:30 < mnemoc> rxr: did you received correct the iso i sent you? 19:30 < mnemoc> hEaDbAnG: update using svn 19:31 < hEaDbAnG> svn? 19:31 < mnemoc> subversion 19:31 < hEaDbAnG> k 19:33 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@p50817D7E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:36 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-29-178.reverse.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:36 < holyolli> moin 19:38 < mnemoc> moin holyolli 19:38 < holyolli> hola mnemoc 19:54 < rxr> mnemoc: I guess the ISOs are here ... - mom 19:55 < rxr> hm- no md5 ... 19:55 < rxr> 1 mnemoc external 246023930 Feb 20 20:09 minimal-rev2366-pmmx_cd1.iso.bz2 19:55 < rxr> -rw-r--r-- 1 mnemoc external 4662 Feb 20 20:09 minimal-rev2366-pmmx_index.txt.bz2 19:55 < mnemoc> rxr: what if you set shell to /bin/true ? 19:55 < rxr> mnemoc: oehm - interesting idea ... ;-) 19:55 < rxr> mnemoc: we try the next time ;-) 19:56 < rxr> baed656a56c881ac0965f864568af786 minimal-rev2366-pmmx_cd1.iso.bz2 19:56 < mnemoc> ok ;) 19:56 < rxr> is this correct ? 19:56 < mnemoc> w8 19:56 * rxr the possibility to cut'n paste is nice ;-) 19:56 < daja77> hehe 19:56 < mnemoc> isn't it patented? o_O 19:57 < mnemoc> (same md5sum) 19:57 < rxr> mnemoc: ok 19:59 < mnemoc> btw, that has iproute2-ahu 20:01 < rxr> I put them into a 2.0.0-beta4 folder 20:01 < rxr> and they have the fixed dietlibc ? 20:02 < rolla> I accdently set my mail filter to send all mail to /dev/null 20:02 < rolla> got rid of spam good :) 20:02 < daja77> hehe 20:02 < mnemoc> rxr: uhm? wasn't the patch on the trunk? 20:03 < rxr> erhm - .... - nope 20:03 < mnemoc> :\ 20:03 < rxr> this is why I pulled the whole new dietlibc version ... 20:03 < mnemoc> rxr: i'll svn up only that 20:03 < mnemoc> and rebuild bootdisk and the pacakge at minimal 20:04 < jsaw> rxr: is the xfree86 licence thing resolved? 20:05 < rxr> I did not saw a problem - and AFAIHunderstood blindcoder also later said it seems to be ok ... 20:05 < mnemoc> .oO( it's bad to asume things ) 20:05 < jsaw> I don't think so. 20:05 < mnemoc> .oO( hm? i'm tyaling about dietlibc ) 20:05 < rxr> The XFree86 Project, Inc is announcing that it has made a change to its license effective with the Third Release Candidate for the 4.4.0 series. This licence, like our previous, is fully free, (how do we know this? no less than the world authority on free software, RMS, has said so) and it's the hope of the XFree86 Project to no longer allow non-free licences into our tree so we can become a fully free-software compliant X product... 20:06 < rxr> What motivated this stance and changes to the base license are the Project's desire to strengthen its stated policy of "You can do what you like with the code except claim you wrote it ". 20:07 < jsaw> I don't care. It might be a good idea but if it's not (yet) compatible with the GPL? 20:07 < rxr> jsaw: this discussion about this bizarre views are to boring for me 20:08 < rxr> I think the license fits when linking against GPL code 20:08 < rxr> if some GPL project has problems those crazzy folks can fight it out themeselves .. 20:08 < jsaw> as long as there's no *real* clarifaction I strongly object to updating 20:08 < jsaw> no, you DISTRIBUTE the stuff. 20:09 < rxr> jsaw: it is now even freeer then before 20:09 < jsaw> Still you may not distribute binaries together with GPL'ed stuff 20:10 -!- batok [~chatzilla@customer-148-233-85-130.uninet-ide.com.mx] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.59p [Mozilla rv:1.6/20040206]") 20:10 < rxr> my code is in this crap ...The license change will be fully effective as of the 4.4.0 release. 20:11 < jsaw> And what? 20:12 < jsaw> This does not change the licence. 20:12 < rxr> this at least explains we do not have a problem with this new RC 20:13 < rxr> maybe with -final - but I do not think so <dot> 20:13 < rxr> The first difference is that both the source code and the binary redistribution are now explicitly addressed, because the original 1.0 license failed to clarify what it meant when it referred to "the Software". Traditionally, "software" in the free software world meant "source code". However, our license allows binary-only redistributions, and there is no provision under the 1.0 license that specifically covers our licence notices reproduct 20:13 < rxr> The second difference is that the new license, unike the old one, explicitly requires that the copyright holders and its contributors be acknowledged in the end user documentation which accompanies redistribution, in the software binaries itself. 20:14 < rxr> We do ship the user documentation as it is with the usual Copyright acknowledgements of XFree - and thus I do not see any problem 20:14 < rxr> _we do not remove or modify and acknowledgement in it_ 20:14 < jsaw> HELLO. The GPL does not allow extra terms. 20:15 < mnemoc> --><-- 20:17 < rxr> The 1.1 license is not GPL-compatible. To avoid new issues with application programs that may be licensed under the GPL, the 1.1 licence is not being applied to client side libraries. 20:17 < rxr> jsaw: keep working on ROCK and do not spring on other peoples license FUD ... 20:18 < jsaw> man, I don't want to be subject to licence clashes if it comes down to that. I u want to shut up my concerns I know what I have to do. 20:18 < hEaDbAnG> i get the same error :/ 20:18 < jsaw> Simply ignoring it won't resolve the situation. 20:19 < rxr> jsaw: I do not ignore it - I think it is solved 20:19 < rxr> 20:12 < rxr> The 1.1 license is not GPL-compatible. To avoid new issues with application 20:19 < rxr> programs that may be licensed under the GPL, the 1.1 licence is not being 20:19 < rxr> applied to client side libraries. 20:19 < rxr> all the stuff above have been quotes from the xfree86 page ... 20:20 < hEaDbAnG> do i have to start everything from the beginning after update to trunk ? 20:20 < rxr> hEaDbAnG: normally not - but since the version info changed it should start into a fresh build/... dir after you have run ./scripts/Config 20:21 < hEaDbAnG> becauese i get the same error 20:21 < hEaDbAnG> mount: fs type devfs not supported by kernel 20:21 < hEaDbAnG> ./scripts/Build-Pkg: line 205: chroot: command not found 20:21 < mnemoc> that's not the same error afaics :p 20:21 < mnemoc> ignore that line :( 20:21 < rxr> you are not seeming to run an svn updated tree 20:22 < rxr> such a tree would not try to mount devfs ... 20:22 < hEaDbAnG> i dont know :/ 20:22 < hEaDbAnG> svn co svn://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-linux/trunk 20:22 < hEaDbAnG> ... 20:22 < mnemoc> cd trunk 20:22 < rxr> you you are in the "trunk" dir you got ? 20:22 < hEaDbAnG> no :/ 20:23 < hEaDbAnG> hm 20:23 < hEaDbAnG> k i copy the config 20:23 < mnemoc> the config/$foo dir, yes 20:23 < mnemoc> to move download (or bind it) i sane too 20:23 < mnemoc> is* 20:26 < hEaDbAnG> hm 20:27 < mnemoc> rxr: can i upload you minimal-r2366+diet (in a couple of hours)? 20:27 < blindy> redi 20:27 < blindy> rehi 20:27 < hEaDbAnG> i download everything one more time... 20:27 < rxr> mnemoc: sure 20:27 -!- k3t_ is now known as trekkie3k 20:27 < mnemoc> hEaDbAnG: that's not sane :\ 20:27 < rxr> you can use rsync to save some bits ... 20:28 < rxr> please do not waste too much uplink bandwith I might get prolems from the university in that case ... 20:28 < mnemoc> to me or to hEaDbAnG? 20:29 < holyolli> hm. why don't we use the mirrors more for such problems? 20:29 < jsaw> rxr: can you give me the url for this sentence? 20:29 < rxr> to you mnemoc - outgoing traffic is free - but the university has to pay for incomming traffic .. 20:29 < hEaDbAnG> hm 20:29 < hEaDbAnG> but the files are older... 20:30 < rxr> jsaw: oehm - I'm already reading other sites - this was all from the lincense announcement - and the FAQ for the 1.1. license ... 20:30 < mnemoc> rxr: O_o ... ok. only 250M+ssh2_overhead 20:31 < rxr> mnemoc: do not bzip2 them 20:31 < rxr> mnemoc: renamt the file on the server side 20:31 < rxr> mnemoc: use rsync over ssh 20:31 < rxr> mnemoc: : rsync -arv -e ssh .... 20:32 < mnemoc> rxr: i have never done that before but i love to learn things :p 20:32 -!- A-Tui [~aitor@cable74a018.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #rocklinux 20:32 < rxr> I read ssh is the default for new rsync version - but have not verified this ... 20:32 < mnemoc> hi A-Tui 20:33 < rxr> mnemoc: just use rsync as you would have done - just add "-e ssh" and the username@server before the remove filename ... 20:35 < A-Tui> hola mnemoc 20:35 < A-Tui> i send a mail to ML and seems don'r arrived :( 20:36 < togg> hi all 20:36 < togg> anyone has a target with a _small_ Xfree Setup ? 20:36 < blindy> rxr: I just went through a diff of LVP vs rev 2376, and it seems like I can easily adapt it to be included in ROCK if two additional packages are added, one of them quite intrusive I think: freeglut 20:37 < blindy> togg: Xfree setup? 20:37 < togg> blindy: i mean minimum size, but with X and openbox e.g. 20:37 < blindy> oehm... no, then not >_< 20:37 < togg> :) 20:38 < togg> anyone else maybe? :) 20:40 < rxr> togg: not at hand - but I could build such a thing in over a night if vital ... 20:43 < jsaw> rxr: I'm sorry, but I still stand to what I said. What you were quoting is not at all precise. The source files carry the new licence (also client libs) without any other notice. <dot> 20:43 -!- tsa [tsa@pD95255BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:43 < tsa> hi 20:44 < holyolli> hi tsa ;-) 20:44 < tsa> anyone alive with write-access to the repository? please commit at least the security fixes - this starts to get on my nerves. 20:45 < mnemoc> tsa: rxr i here 20:45 < mnemoc> tsa: is* 20:45 < tsa> good. 20:46 < tsa> rene: apply, apply, apply! 20:47 < tsa> ..and remove the damn opera package - this is pending since dec 2003.. 20:47 < rxr> tsa: hi 20:47 < tsa> aaah! 20:48 < tsa> rxr: i know you're busy - but please remove opera and apply the fixes for metamail. everything else can wait a little longer, if needed. 20:49 < rxr> opera removed 20:49 < tsa> good - thanks. 20:49 < rxr> tsa: nah - I'm not busy - just often without net ... 20:49 < rxr> which security patches eactly - before I vanish for today? 20:49 < rxr> ML or submaster ? 20:49 < tsa> hehe...that makes working on the tree a little difficult, i suppose ;) 20:50 < tsa> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 23:33:47 +0100 20:50 < tsa> From: Sebastian Jaenicke <tsa@jaenicke.org> 20:50 < tsa> Subject: [rock-linux] [patch][SECURITY] metamail 20:50 < tsa> this one. 20:50 < mnemoc> tsa: why not submaster? 20:50 < rxr> ok - on progress 20:51 < tsa> mnemoc: no time to try it so far..i'm busy, too ;) 20:51 < mnemoc> =) 20:52 < blindy> tsa: I posted a small bash function to use curl to upload the patches to submaster 20:52 < rxr> done 20:53 < tsa> rxr: thanks a lot. 20:53 < rxr> tsa: one more? 20:53 < tsa> rxr: opera and metamail were the most important ones.. 20:53 < rxr> I hope to process a big fat bunch tomorrow ... 20:54 < blindy> rxr: that would ROCK :) 20:54 < tsa> if you have some more time, cyrus-sasl would be nice - the reworked patch using install filter was sent to the list, too. 20:54 < tsa> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 20:55:28 +0100 20:54 < tsa> From: Sebastian Jaenicke <tsa@jaenicke.org> 20:54 < tsa> Subject: Re: [rock-linux] [patch] cyrus-sasl2 20:54 < blindy> tsa: have you tried the bash-function? 20:55 < tsa> should really look into submaster soon. 20:55 < tsa> blindy: so far-- no. just looking for it in my mailing list archive 20:55 < blindy> tsa: you don't need a local submaster for it, a account on the website is enough to use it. 20:56 < tsa> dont have any website account (except the flyspray one). 20:56 < mnemoc> tsa: you can't be busy enough for being unable to fill a two-inputs-form 20:57 < blindy> 20040129125201.GB6027@scavenger.homeip.net 20:57 < tsa> found it. 20:57 < blindy> mnemoc: three inputs: you have to enter the password twice :) 20:57 < mnemoc> =) 20:59 < tsa> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH! 20:59 < tsa> Not allowed character in password! 20:59 < tsa> WTF? 20:59 < mnemoc> =) 20:59 < blindy> *lol* 20:59 < mnemoc> he is unable to fill a three-inputs-form :p 20:59 < blindy> what has clifford done there :) 20:59 < tsa> *chooses simple password* 20:59 < blindy> mnemoc: no, he just hits bugs with an astonishining precision :) 21:00 < tsa> tried "As$d2-G3t" 21:00 * blindy writes down password 21:00 < mnemoc> blindy: it's on the weblog now :) 21:00 < tsa> blindy: no problem - thats the one it didnt want. 21:01 < blindy> mnemoc: I don't trust esden anymore... he has started to become... strange, you know... 21:01 < blindy> tsa: damn ;) 21:01 < mnemoc> what's esden doing there? 21:01 < blindy> mnemoc: rumor has it that he's now using Fedora... 21:02 < tsa> looks like i have a "website account" now - whatever that's supposed to mean. 21:02 < tsa> ok. 21:02 < tsa> next question. 21:02 < tsa> whos running linux 2.6? 21:02 < blindy> tsa: yeah, submaster needs to be Polished a bit :) 21:02 * blindy whistles innocently 21:03 < tsa> ok, good. i use lilo. this works: 21:03 < tsa> image=/boot/2424 21:03 < tsa> label=rock 21:03 < tsa> append="root=/dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target8/lun0/part2" 21:03 < tsa> read-only 21:03 < tsa> this one doesnt: 21:03 < tsa> image=/boot/263 21:03 < tsa> label=rock26 21:03 < tsa> append="root=/dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target8/lun0/part2" 21:03 < tsa> read-only 21:04 < mnemoc> 2424 looks funny 21:04 < tsa> panics, cannot find root fs, append correct root=something line 21:04 < blindy> mnemoc: 2323 would be strange :) 21:04 < mnemoc> lol 21:04 < blindy> tsa: sure you have devfs in 26? there was a LOT discussion about it right before 2.6 21:05 < tsa> $ grep DEVFS /usr/src/linux-2.6.3/.config 21:05 < tsa> CONFIG_DEVFS_FS=y 21:05 < tsa> CONFIG_DEVFS_MOUNT=y 21:05 < blindy> tsa: what about the SCSI module for your controller?? 21:05 < tsa> blindy: aic7896 adaptec. 21:05 < blindy> tsa: file system? 21:05 < tsa> tried both aic7xxx and aic7xxx_old - same result. 21:06 < tsa> reiserfs. 21:06 < tsa> $ grep REISERFS /usr/src/linux-2.6.3/.config 21:06 < tsa> CONFIG_REISERFS_FS=y 21:06 < blindy> is that the same reiserfs version? I haven't followed on the fs-edge... 21:06 < tsa> $ grep AIC /usr/src/linux-2.6.3/.config 21:06 < tsa> CONFIG_SCSI_AIC7XXX=y 21:06 < tsa> yes, it is. 21:07 < jsaw> anything in your boot log about "not able to mount devfs_fs sth."? 21:07 < tsa> any devfs namespace changes between 2.4 and 2.6? 21:07 < tsa> jsaw: no root fs, therefore no boot log.. ;) 21:08 < jsaw> (on lkml you normally hear sth. about writing down the boot log by hand :) 21:08 < blindy> tsa: try do put some printk in kernel/do_mount.c (IIRC) 21:08 < blindy> jsaw: serial console is the way to go! 21:08 < blindy> or console on line printer :) 21:08 < jsaw> tsa: what's about /dev/discs/...? 21:08 < jsaw> blindy: :) 21:08 < tsa> hehe 21:09 < tsa> jsaw: tried that, too - no difference. 21:09 < blindy> hmm.... I could really ut up a console on line printer... I have an old NEC P20 here and a "server"-machine without a monitor... 21:09 < blindy> tsa: try sdh2 21:10 < tsa> will try sdh2 - brb 21:11 -!- tsa [tsa@pD95255BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("*plopp*") 21:12 < rxr> ok - cu tomorrow (hopefully) 21:12 < blindy> bye 21:12 < jsaw> bye bye rxr 21:12 * blindy also --> bed 21:12 -!- togg [~togg@pD9E5B549.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 21:13 < mnemoc> blindy: gn8 21:13 < mnemoc> gn8 rxr 21:14 < jsaw> bye bye blindy 21:14 -!- togg [~togg@pD9E5B549.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:17 < mnemoc> *yawn* 21:19 < jsaw> mnemoc: *coffee* 21:20 -!- tsa [tsa@pD9FF95B6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:21 < tsa> doesn't work. 21:21 < tsa> tried /dev/discs/.., sdh2, sda2, .. 21:21 < jsaw> bios code? 21:21 < tsa> hm? 21:21 < jsaw> lilo or grub tell you sth. like 0x0303 21:22 < tsa> ah...no, nothing like that. 21:22 < jsaw> did you try it? 21:22 < tsa> scsi driver detects all the discs, so it should be ok 21:23 < jsaw> that does not mean that the mapping, namespace, whatever is correct on boot? 21:23 < jsaw> different target number e.g. 21:24 < tsa> i even rdev'd the boot device into the kernel image using (major, minor) 21:31 < jsaw> me now ps2'ing, bbl 21:50 -!- hEaDbAnG [~maya@pD9E81123.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ("Leaving") 21:58 -!- hEaDbAnG [~maya@pD9E80D29.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:59 < mnemoc> hEaDbAnG: did you have luck? 22:00 < hEaDbAnG> i had to restart everything 22:00 < hEaDbAnG> now its building glibc 22:00 < hEaDbAnG> i hope everything will work 22:00 < daja77> re 22:00 < mnemoc> re daja77 22:00 < hEaDbAnG> but everything works better... i think 22:01 < daja77> thx mnemoc 22:02 < A-Tui> dockapps should be added in extra/windowmanager or in extra/tool? 22:03 < hEaDbAnG> window... 22:03 < hEaDbAnG> i think 22:03 < A-Tui> ok 22:07 < hEaDbAnG> :/ 22:08 < hEaDbAnG> error while building gcc3 22:08 < hEaDbAnG> damn 22:08 < mnemoc> what error? 22:09 < daja77> cool A-Tui made a patch 22:09 < A-Tui> daja77, me? 22:09 < hEaDbAnG> root/trunk/build/default-2.0.0-rc5-x86-athlon-xp-32-gen .. 22:09 < hEaDbAnG> !> ../../gcc/libgcc2.c:2093: warning: no previous prototype .. 22:09 < hEaDbAnG> !> make[1]: *** [libgcc/./_stack_smash_handler.o] Error 1 22:09 < hEaDbAnG> !> make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/trunk/src.gcc3.1077742 .. 22:09 < hEaDbAnG> !> make: *** [libgcc.a] Error 2 22:09 < hEaDbAnG> !> make: Leaving directory `/root/trunk/src.gcc3.1077742736 .. 22:10 < daja77> A-Tui: sorry conbfused your mail with a patch 22:10 < A-Tui> daja77, :) 22:10 < A-Tui> daja77, i'm trying to build a patch to sylpheed to run gpgme 0.4.4 22:11 < daja77> k. :) 22:11 < A-Tui> but i'm not very experimented with that stuffs :( 22:11 < A-Tui> and i'm really very slow :) 22:11 < daja77> don't worry 22:12 < mnemoc> A-Tui: the first time is always the most difficult to achieve 22:13 < A-Tui> yeah, i hope that :) 22:18 -!- kandinski_work is now known as kandiman 22:24 < hEaDbAnG> oh shit 22:24 < hEaDbAnG> every package failed 22:24 < hEaDbAnG> after gcc 22:24 < hEaDbAnG> :/ 22:26 < hEaDbAnG> ah because gcc failed 22:26 < hEaDbAnG> but how can i solve the problem 22:29 < A-Tui> one stupid question, when i added a new pkg how can i include it into INDEX with the correct download/* path? 22:29 < mnemoc> hEaDbAnG: you can't allow any <2 package to fail 22:29 < daja77> just flag it X in desc file 22:30 < hEaDbAnG> but i must build gcc... 22:30 < A-Tui> ops i think i found my error 22:30 < hEaDbAnG> and it just abbort if it fails 22:31 < A-Tui> daja77, and with an O doesn't download it? 22:32 < daja77> it would be downloaded when you say Download -all 22:32 < A-Tui> mmm don't run, there is something i'm doing bad 22:32 < mnemoc> A-Tui: ./scripts/Download -package $foo 22:33 < daja77> or that 22:33 < hEaDbAnG> hm... 22:33 < A-Tui> mnemoc, yes, i do that, but script stop when "procesing pattern download/*/wmint/*" 22:33 < hEaDbAnG> i test another configuration... 22:33 < mnemoc> and? 22:33 < hEaDbAnG> i hope it will work 22:36 < A-Tui> ops what a stupid error! i forgot the checksum field 22:36 < A-Tui> should that be advised? 22:38 < mnemoc> A-Tui: there is an script to validate the .desc file 22:39 < mnemoc> but we can't check for errors every file every time 22:39 < A-Tui> ok 22:42 < A-Tui> i found the script thanks 22:45 < mnemoc> :) 22:47 < holyolli> cu 22:47 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-29-178.reverse.qsc.de] has quit ("Leaving") 22:49 < hEaDbAnG> damn 22:49 < hEaDbAnG> :/ 22:50 < hEaDbAnG> the same error 22:51 < mnemoc> uhm? 22:51 < hEaDbAnG> gcc failed 22:51 < hEaDbAnG> /root/trunk/build/default-2.0.0-rc5-x86-athlon-xp-32-cro .. 22:51 < hEaDbAnG> !> ../../gcc/libgcc2.c:2093: warning: no previous prototype .. 22:51 < hEaDbAnG> !> make[1]: *** [libgcc/./_stack_smash_handler.o] Error 1 22:51 < hEaDbAnG> !> make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/trunk/src.gcc3.1077745 .. 22:51 < hEaDbAnG> !> make: *** [libgcc.a] Error 2 22:51 < hEaDbAnG> !> make: Leaving directory `/root/trunk/src.gcc3.1077745226 .. 22:51 < hEaDbAnG> ... 22:52 < mnemoc> can you take a look into src.gcc...../ERROR-LOG and paste on *query* the real last -10 ? 22:52 < hEaDbAnG> jep 23:18 < daja77> n8 you all 23:19 * daja77 now syncing his tree 23:19 < daja77> :) 23:19 < togg> hi. anybody knows how i can remove the bdb33 compile bug? 23:19 < mnemoc> togg: what compile bug? 23:20 < togg> it does not compile :) 23:20 < tsa> hehe...bdb.. 23:20 * tsa giggles 23:20 < togg> its an error in bdb33.conf 23:20 < togg> hook_add postmake 4 23:20 < jsaw> svn up? 23:21 < togg> sure! 23:21 < tsa> rock linux currently consists of ~ 1000 packages, half of them being different versions of bdb.. ;-) 23:21 < mnemoc> [ -e foo ] || ln foo ? 23:21 < togg> yep 23:21 < jsaw> ts: muahahahah 23:21 < jsaw> +a 23:21 < togg> bug is in there some weeks now :) 23:22 < togg> mnemoc: in the old version of bdb33.conf without the [ -r it worked 23:22 < mnemoc> || is fine, && is wrong 23:22 < mnemoc> what do u have? 23:23 < tsa> a clean solution would be to have one bdb package (most recent stable version) only. everything else that requires a specific version of bdb should be statically linked. 23:23 < togg> mnemoc: what u mean? 23:23 < jsaw> togg: what is after the closing ], && or || 23:23 < togg> mnemoc: u mean i should replace && with || ? 23:23 < mnemoc> paste your hook_add postmake 4 23:24 < mnemoc> togg: yes :p 23:24 < togg> && 23:24 < togg> hmm sounds right 23:24 < togg> go and update svn :) 23:24 < darix> looks like the committer is busy ;) 23:24 < mnemoc> i don't know if it's fixed on the turnk 23:25 < togg> hook_add postmake 4 '[ -e $includedir/${pkg:1:3} ] || \ 23:25 < togg> ln -svf ${pkg:1} $includedir/${pkg:1:3}' 23:25 < jsaw> yes, that's right 23:25 < togg> i updated ;) 23:25 < togg> b4 it was && 23:25 < jsaw> in the trunk, there's the && 23:26 < jsaw> mnemoc: I thought the patch was committed long time ago? 23:28 < mnemoc> jsaw: me too 23:41 -!- kandiman [~kandinski@80.28.219.81] has quit ("Going... going... gone") 23:47 -!- A-Tui [~aitor@cable74a018.usuarios.retecal.es] has quit ("Satanás, el infierno es demasiado dulce!") --- Log closed Thu Feb 26 00:00:44 2004