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00:17 < apache_king> Anybody around?
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04:20 < cerise-> Hey...can someone help with a routing problem?
04:22 < theanalogkid> Does the source pacakage from the subversion have the dietlibc fix so the installer can find the boot packages 
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09:22 < blindy> moin
09:40 < rxr> rehi
09:40 < blindy> moin rxr
09:41 < netrunne1> hups
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09:41 < blindy> moin netti
09:44 < blindy> rxr: I've got a quick question about parse-config files
09:44 < blindy> rxr: are _all_ parse-config files sourced, regardless if a package is activated or not? dito for target's parse-config files?
09:50 < fake> moin
09:52 < rxr> blindy: I need to take a look ...
09:52 < blindy> moin fake
09:53 < blindy> rxr: okay, then I'll look myself. Just hoped you'd have an answer by heart :)
09:56 < daja77> moin
09:58 < netrunner> hui daja77 
09:58 < daja77> :)
09:59 < rxr> blindy: should be only for the packages activated ...
10:01 < blindy> rxr: okay, thanks. then I need not make additional checks around my stubs :)
10:02 < blindy> moin daja77 
10:02 < daja77> moin blindy 
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10:06 < LocalHero> Hi all
10:07 < LocalHero> blindy: ahh, build completed, same error :(
10:08 < blindy> LocalHero: got the output at hand?
10:29 * fake updating udev patch...
10:31 < netrunner> cool, dillo can now render /. correctly :)
10:32 < netrunner> mine -r mozilla
10:37 < fake> w00t
10:37 < fake> nice connection speed
10:46 < blindy> okay, two more test-builds and I'm ready to tag LVP 0.4.0 and submit it :)
10:50 < blindy> brb
10:54 < blindy> back
11:06 < netrunner> wo blackliste ich den module fuer rockplug
11:08 < netrunner> urgs, sorry ;)
11:16 < LocalHero> cya all
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13:04 < holyolli> re
13:06 < rxr> rehi holyolli 
13:10 < holyolli> hi rxr
13:11 < holyolli> blindy: are you there?
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13:19 < cytrinox> moin
13:22 < mnemoc> moin
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13:30 < mnemoc> no screams yet because of the new tag?
13:30 < mnemoc> or you are kicking eachother at clt?
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13:36 < darix> 2004-02-06.log:17:57:38 < darix> perl -pi -e 's/(head )-(\d+)/${1}-n $2/g' scripts/*
13:36 < darix> 2004-02-06.log:18:02:48 < darix> grep -rl chown . | grep -v .svn | xargs --no-run-if-empty perl -pi -e 's/chown(.*?)(root|0)\./chown$1$2:/g'
13:36 < darix> 2004-02-06.log:18:35:03 < darix> perl -pi -e 's/(expand )-(\d+)/${1}-t$2/g' *
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13:38 < A-Tui> hola
13:44 < fake> huhu
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14:10 < darix> clifford_: already found time for testing?
14:20 < clifford_> darix: nope. we are currently dicuccing sse2 code.. ;-)
14:31 < darix> ic
14:33 < tfing> kasc: i'm updating openh323 for gnomemeeting 1.00
14:34 < kasc> would be great :)
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14:42 < tantive> anyone online from clt?
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14:44 < tantive> linuxtag in chemnitz?
14:48 < mnemoc> i think yes, but i doubt they are reading right now
14:48 * fake is on clt
14:48 < mnemoc> hi fake 
14:49 < fake> as is clifford_, SMP, rxr, daja and netrunner
14:50 < fake> hi mnemoc !
14:50 < theanalogkid> i'm trying to make a iso for installation but binutils keeps failing
14:50 < theanalogkid> !> make[3]: *** [arlex.c] Error 1
14:50 < theanalogkid> !> make[3]: Leaving directory `/R.src/binutils-2.14.90.0.8/ ..
14:50 < theanalogkid> !> make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
14:50 < theanalogkid> !> make[2]: Leaving directory `/R.src/binutils-2.14.90.0.8/ ..
14:50 < theanalogkid> !> make[1]: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
14:50 < theanalogkid> !> make[1]: Leaving directory `/R.src/binutils-2.14.90.0.8/ ..
14:50 < theanalogkid> !> make: *** [all-binutils] Error 2
14:51 < tantive> i heard you are showing matrix xp in chemnitz
14:51 < rxr> theanalogkid: you need to post more - this tail does not show relevant info ...
14:51 < mnemoc> theanalogkid: whaich stage?
14:51 < rxr> hi mnemoc 
14:52 < mnemoc> hi rrx
14:52 < mnemoc> rxr*
14:52 < theanalogkid> well this is the second compile of binutils the Build-Target script has done
14:52 < theanalogkid> the first compile was successful
14:54 < mnemoc> tail -n 30 build/$foo/root/var/adm/logs/1-binutils.err | /query
14:56 < theanalogkid> what do you want me to post?
14:56 < mnemoc> the last lines of .err file
14:56 < mnemoc> from where the error begins
14:58 < blindy> hi hi and rehi
14:58 < mnemoc> meep blindy 
14:58 < fake> tantive: yes, and a few others. want to sue us? ;)
14:58 < theanalogkid> /bin/sh ../../binutils/../ylwrap "" ../../binutils/arlex.l lex.yy.c arlex.c --
14:58 < theanalogkid> ../../binutils/../ylwrap: line 86: /R.work/src.binutils.1078580382.8170.2628544349/binutils-2.14.90.0.8/objdir/binutils/../../binutils/arlex.l:Permission denied $make[3]: *** [arlex.c] Error 1
14:58 < theanalogkid> make[3]: Leaving directory `/R.src/binutils-2.14.90.0.8/objdir/binutils'
14:58 < theanalogkid> make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
14:58 < theanalogkid> make[2]: Leaving directory `/R.src/binutils-2.14.90.0.8/objdir/binutils'
14:58 < theanalogkid> make[1]: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
14:58 < theanalogkid> make[1]: Leaving directory `/R.src/binutils-2.14.90.0.8/objdir/binutils'
14:58 < theanalogkid> make: *** [all-binutils] Error 2
14:59 < mnemoc> QUERY!!!!
14:59 < blindy> moep mnemoc 
14:59 < fake> theanalogkid: i had that once, too
14:59 < mnemoc> :\
14:59 < fake> theanalogkid: you should update your flex and yacc/bison
15:00 < mnemoc> rxr: for the handbook :)
15:00 < fake> (iirc)
15:00 < tantive> fake: no, i'm remembering linuxtag in karlsruhe ;) (greetings from gentoo btw.)
15:00 < fake> tantive: greetz back ;) 
15:00 < fake> tantive: yeah, xine ran it
15:01 < clifford_> darix: https://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/smadm.cgi?i=2004_03_0614555705196
15:01 < fake> tantive: we call it 'edutainment' - funny vids with educational rock content in between ;)
15:01 < tantive> heh
15:01 < tantive> nice idea
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15:02 < tantive> i'm looking forward to lt 2004 in ka ;)
15:02 < tantive> be prepared
15:02 < theanalogkid> mnemoc:it says /query: No such file or directory
15:02 < mnemoc> :(
15:02 < fake> tantive: is that indy over there running a 2.6 kernel?
15:03 < theanalogkid> how do i go about updating my flex and yacc/bison
15:03 < mnemoc> ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg bison
15:03 < fake> theanalogkid: what linux are you running?
15:03 < tantive> fake: you have to ask our booth staff. as i am not in chemnitz
15:03 < tantive> fake: :(
15:03 < theanalogkid> fake: Arch Linux
15:03 < fake> tantive: oh, ok
15:04 < fake> theanalogkid: do you know how to use that rock 1.4 clone? *g*
15:05 < theanalogkid> no i'm rather new to rock so you'll have to tell me
15:05 < tantive> fake: feel free to visit them, they won't bite you
15:05 < blindy> tantive: but fake might bite them :)
15:06 < fake> tantive: my social incompetence forbids this
15:06 < tantive> looool
15:06 < blindy> tantive: see what I mean...
15:06 < tantive> fake: so you have to ask them in irc
15:07 < tantive> but talking in irc and sitting 10 meters away from each other is evil
15:07 < A-Tui> cu all
15:07 < tantive> but i can tell you we had the same problem in karlsruhe
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15:07 < theanalogkid> fake: what is this rock clone?
15:07 < tantive> we couldn't get our bodies to walk these few meters
15:08 < mnemoc> theanalogkid: archlinux
15:09 < theanalogkid> mnemoc: i'm already using arch linux and that a clone of crux
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15:15 < darix> clifford: cool :)
15:16 < mnemoc> dammit! you won :(
15:16 < mnemoc> darix: i hoped you sign up on submaster :(
15:16 < mnemoc> s/up/in/
15:17 < mnemoc> *what-a-fscking-headache*
15:18 < mnemoc> .oO( this is a good oportunity to vomit over my boss )
15:19 < darix> mnemoc: i wont sign up for this little patch
15:20 < mnemoc> darix: we will not spam you
15:22 < darix> anyways
15:22 < fake> hm, now theanalogkid is gone
15:25 * tantive is away: shopping
15:26 < mnemoc> what can you shopping on a lt?
15:27 < fake> he's not on clt
15:27 < blindy> penguin plushies
15:31 < fake> ROCK Linux CDs
15:32 < blindy> ROCK Linux DVDs
15:33 * tfing would like a ROCK Linux sticker to put on his laptop
15:38 * fake too
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15:38 < LocalHero> hi all
15:39 < LocalHero> rxr: hi. should i manualy sync the 2.0.0 or do you want to start rsyncing?
15:40 < LocalHero> rxr: Ahh, sorry, i just read the mail, but there are no isos :).. What rev is the official 2.0? So that i can make some builds
15:41 < tfing> LocalHero: there is a 2.0.0 tag
15:41 < tfing> http://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-linux/tags/
15:42 < LocalHero> tfing: oki, how do you co a specific tag?
15:42 < tfing> svn co -r 2.0.0 i guess
15:43 < LocalHero> tfing: oki :)
15:43 < tfing> but not really sure
15:43 < tfing> svn co http://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-linux/tags/2.0.0/
15:43 < tfing> might be better
15:44 < LocalHero> tfing: yepp, i noticed that it worked :)
15:46 < mnemoc>  svn:// is faster 
15:46 < mnemoc> and cheaper to rene 
15:47 < LocalHero> mnemoc: ahh, great, then i chosed the right one :)
15:47 < tfing> mnemoc: i was counting on LocalHero's intelligence ;)
15:47 < mnemoc> =)=
15:47 < mnemoc> -=
15:48 < LocalHero> tfing: intelligence? What intelligence?!?! ;)
15:48 < tfing> =]
15:49 < mnemoc> *headache*
15:57 < tfing> |:: sm sync
15:57 < tfing> |Merging changes 2486: from master ...
15:57 < tfing> |svn: Syntax error in revision argument '2486:'
15:57 < tfing> >> ERROR Running 'svn merge --duplicate -r 2486: svn://svn2.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-linux/trunk' !!
15:57 < tfing> sweet sweet ...
15:58 < mnemoc> it couldn't fetch the current revision number?
15:58 < tfing> seems so
15:58 < mnemoc> svn2 is sync'ed?
15:59 < blindy> once an hour I think
15:59 < mnemoc> btw, we need a Download -all on the mirrors
16:03 < rxr> mnemoc: on the mirros is a Download -all
16:03 < rxr> mnemoc: the svn2 is sinced three times per hour
16:03 < mnemoc> oh
16:04 < mnemoc> rxr: is clifford's box ready for /. ?
16:04 < tfing> hehe
16:04 < blindy> is /. ready for us?
16:05 < rxr> mnemoc: let's thow it on /. - but tomorrow or so 
16:05 < rxr> mnemoc: today the news here - and on symlink should already generate some load ...
16:05 < rxr> blindy: we'll see.
16:05 < tfing> synlink ?
16:05 < tfing> ^n^m
16:06 < mnemoc> .oO( what?! what is this 'powered by rocklinux' png on slashdot? )o
16:06 < blindy> tfing: "german" (or better, swiss) /.
16:06 < tfing> ok
16:06 < rxr> http://www.symlink.ch/
16:06 < rxr> or so
16:09 < mnemoc> rxr: will you post it there or you will wait?
16:10 < rxr> mnemoc: we go over to the symlink booth and convince them to post there ;-)
16:12 < mnemoc> uhm... i didn't see a symlink booth on clt's 'layout'
16:14 < blindy> mnemoc: they're there since they also posted it on their site
16:16 < rxr> it is on the plan - in the center 
16:18 * mnemoc can't find the bookmark :( please? ;)
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16:31 < mnemoc> found... just on the clt frontpage :)
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16:58 < apache_king> I have installed the rocklinux iso quite a few times and I still can't get it to setup the devices under dev!
16:59 < apache_king> Anyone here?
16:59 < mnemoc> hm?
16:59 < apache_king> Rock won't boot?
17:00 < mnemoc> explain "setup the devices under dev"
17:00 < apache_king> none
17:01 < apache_king> it is only setup in the ramdisk that is created by the cd
17:01 < apache_king> not on the drive
17:04 < mnemoc> you mean you have an empty /dev ?
17:06 < apache_king> correct
17:07 < apache_king> the bootdisk creates the ramdisk with a working /dev
17:07 < mnemoc> devfs must be mounted there by kernel
17:07 < apache_king> correct
17:07 < mnemoc> when the final system boots
17:07 < apache_king> but it can't
17:08 < apache_king> because it does not exist
17:08 < apache_king> in /dev
17:08 < apache_king> i don't know if copying the ramdisk /dev to the drive /dev will work
17:08 < mnemoc> your run bootdisk, install rock, set root password, eject, reboot ?
17:09 < mnemoc> apache_king: don't copy anything
17:09 < apache_king> yup
17:09 < fake> mount -t devfs none /dev
17:11 < apache_king> what's this!
17:11 < apache_king> ?
17:13 < mnemoc> the command to mount devfs on /dev ?
17:20 < holyolli> re
17:20 < mnemoc> re holyolli 
17:20 < holyolli> hi mnemoc
17:21 < holyolli> hm. didn't most of the users vote against the 2.0-final release...?
17:22 < blindy> holyolli: yeah. but we're not in a democracy here.
17:23 < holyolli> blindy: hm. i c
17:23 < holyolli> :(
17:23 < mnemoc> =)
17:23 < holyolli> blindy: btw. without the cache-file creation your lvp compiles without errors and problems
17:23 < rxr> holyolli: many additional votes have not been on the list - and many demanded a 2.0.0 for a long time
17:24 < apache_king> hey, how do I setup this command in fstab so  the system boots up from the drive?
17:24 < blindy> holyolli: cool, then I will remove time again. btw. I'm currently building the precompiled release packages. I will release 0.4.0 "you will be assimilated" as soon as I have the mirroring of the website and files set up
17:24 < rxr> we do not win anything with endless -rc's - we should switch to a relase early release often strategy to atract people
17:25 < mnemoc> full ACK
17:25 < blindy> hear, hear...
17:26 < blindy> holyolli: I'm planning on releasing precompiled for p4, p3, p2, pentiumpro, pentiummmx, k6-2 and non-optimized.
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17:26 < mnemoc> apache_king: /dev is mounted on the first line of /etc/rc.d/init.d/system
17:26 < mnemoc> if kernel didn't
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17:27 < rammi> hi guys
17:27 < mnemoc> hi
17:27 < blindy> hi rammi
17:27 < apache_king> ok
17:28 < mnemoc> apache_king: grep devfs /etc/fstab ?
17:28 < rammi> I typed my name in google, and I noticed a ircd log on #rocklinx, somebody talkd someting about a t-shirt?
17:28 < holyolli> rxr: the problem of this 'relase early release often' strategy is on the other hand that you deter people, because you name it 'stable', but it isn't
17:29 < rammi> i could do something about a t-shirt now if it isn't to late.. ?
17:30 < mnemoc> first real release of the stable branch doesn't mean 'this sth. is perfect'
17:30 < blindy> yeah, that's like "Linux Kernel 2.6.0" :)
17:30 < holyolli> well the word 'stable' implies 'stable'
17:30 < holyolli> blindy: a reason why many ppl don't use 2.6
17:30 < blindy> I'm still on 2.4 and happy
17:31 < mnemoc> it's is stable for x86_32/2.4
17:31 < rammi> 10:57 < esden> perhups we can ask Miroslav Strugarevic to create a t-shirt design for rock?
17:31 < rammi> 10:58 < blindcoder> esden: are you here now
17:31 < blindy> mnemoc: yeah, but 2.6 is all hip and great now
17:31 < mnemoc> 2.0.1 can be stable for x86_32/2.6 etc...
17:31 < blindy> mnemoc: and many people want to have that.
17:32 < mnemoc> i think clt-team will produce a x86/2.6 on clt ;)
17:33 < blindy> I really hope so
17:33 < mnemoc> we can't be ready for every 'i want...'
17:33 < fake> x86/2.6 is in sm
17:33 < blindy> mnemoc: good. so we'll get about 10% of the people we COULD
17:33 < blindy> mnemoc: good enough?
17:33 < mnemoc> that's why the third element of the version is there
17:33 < blindy> fake: but not in RELEASE
17:34 < mnemoc> it will be in 2.0.1
17:34 < blindy> but what am I talking
17:34 < fake> blindy: who uses releases? ;))
17:34 < blindy> mnemoc: and if fake's patches would have been applied, it could have been in .0
17:34 < fake> releases are for people who can't handle subversion ;))
17:34 < blindy> fake: I do. Companies do. PAYING CUSTOMERS DO
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17:35 < mnemoc> i would not recomend a .3 kernel to a paying customer
17:36 < blindy> then you'll be asked: "Why did those people release it if it isn't reliable?"
17:37 < blindy> and THEN you'll get that question with every single program you're going to install
17:38 < mnemoc> rl-2.0.0 is reliable
17:38 * fake is glad rocklinux does not depend on customer's wishes
17:39 < fake> customer's wishes always influence quality
17:39 < blindy> fake: and your moneybag. But if you don't want any money, fine. _I_ do.
17:39 < fake> i hate money
17:39 < fake> i don't want money
17:40 < blindy> so give it to me.
17:40 < mnemoc> i love it ;) that's what i will not install lx2.6 on a client yet
17:40 < blindy> I'll be glad to free you of that concern.
17:40 < fake> i want to help create something beautiful, that's all
17:40 < mnemoc> uptime i a very important word for customers
17:41 < blindy> indeed.
17:41 < blindy> uptime, availability, stability. combined into reliability.
17:41 < fake> high quality systems have incredible uptimes, ubt a perfect system takes its time. customers want everything as fast as possible
17:41 < apache_king> mnemon: none  /dev  defaults 0 0
17:41 < fake> that's a conflict
17:42 < blindy> fake: then you're dealing with the wrong customers.
17:42 < fake> the type is missing?
17:42 < mnemoc> apache_king: that's ok, look at the kernel output and init output way mount /dev failed
17:42 < mnemoc> why*
17:42 < fake> blindy: i'm not dealing with customers any more. the marketing drones do that.
17:42 < mnemoc> fake: oh... tyou are right
17:42 < mnemoc> apache_king: none /dev devfs defaults 0 0
17:43 < blindy> fake: even more a reason to be convinced of your own product.
17:43 < apache_king> yeah that is correct
17:44 < apache_king> let me check the init output
17:44 < mnemoc> blindy: reliability: 2.4 gives much more reliability than 2.6 even if 2.6 better scheduler, blah blah blah
17:44 < mnemoc> blindy: then 2.4 is the default for reliabilty
17:45 < blindy> mnemoc: ok. so much for kernels. is the problem with Pentium-4 optimsation fixed?
17:47 < mnemoc> uhm... .... .. .oO( i have forgoten )... isn't that a gcc problem? 
17:47 < blindy> yes
17:47 < blindy> so, is it fixed?
17:47 < mnemoc> gcc was updated reciently
17:47 < blindy> also as default compiler?
17:48 < mnemoc> *silence*
17:48 < mnemoc> aaarg.... damn Grace Community Church 
17:49 < holyolli> ?
17:49 < mnemoc> gcc.org
17:50 < apache_king> mnemoc: well the output for init.d/system is quite long but the /dev was mounted correctly after I ran it.
17:50 < apache_king> of course this is in chroot
17:51 < mnemoc> apache_king: uhm? reboot it i watch the real output
17:53 < mnemoc> rxr: i build with gcc33 only, but i don't do 'generic' there are... there are reasons to still having gcc3.2 as dafault?
17:53 < mnemoc> s/ there are././
17:54 < rxr> mnemoc: to be hones - I do not konw, I asked several times but got mixed results
17:54 < rxr> mnemoc: I guess in some weeks all will build - but I have not tried myself in the last months ...
17:55 < mnemoc> 2.0.1 -> lx26 ; 2.0.2 -> gcc3=3.3.3 :)
17:55 < mnemoc> (goals)
17:55 < fake> that's fine
17:57 < blindy> tonikaku, I'll get something edible now.
17:57 < blindy> brb
17:57 < apache_king> mnemoc: after grub loads and I select rock linux: Kernel (hd0,2)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part2 ro
17:57 < apache_king> can't mount partition
18:14 < mnemoc> apache_king: rewinding... what did you build/download ?
18:18 < tcr> moin all
18:18 < tcr> The topic got obsolete methinks
18:19 -!- netrunner changed the topic of #rocklinux to: ROCK Linux at 2.0 - join now - http://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html
18:19 -!- ChanServ changed the topic of #rocklinux to: ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now - http://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html
18:19 < mnemoc> netrunner: tell chanserv first :)
18:19 < netrunner> mnemoc: how?
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18:20 < jsaw> re
18:20 < jsaw> rxr: ping
18:20 < tcr> moin jsaw
18:20 < jsaw> hi tcr 
18:21 < tcr> netrunner, I don't think you got the priviledges for it. I only know from esden and SMP that they have 'em
18:21 < mnemoc> netrunner: msg chanserv set topiclock off
18:21 < daja77> r
18:21 < daja77> re
18:21 < mnemoc> hi daja77 
18:22 < rxr> jsaw: pong
18:22 < daja77> hi mnemoc 
18:22 < jsaw> rxr: did u realize that misc/joystick is *really* outdated?
18:22 < rxr> jsaw: the people needed s.th. for calibrating joysticks - is there s.th. newer ?
18:23 < jsaw> doesn't work:
18:23 < jsaw> bash-2.05b# jscal /dev/input/js0
18:23 < jsaw> jscal: wrong version
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18:23 < rxr> jsaw: oeh - interesting, I did not got that feedback from those people
18:23 < rxr> jsaw: can you locate s.th. that works for you ? ;-)
18:23 < rxr> can be in 2.0.1 ... ;-)
18:24 < jsaw> /usr/include/joystick.h says #define JS_VERSION 0x01020e, while linux/joystick.h says 0x020100
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18:25 < MadTux> hello.
18:25 < holyolli> hola MadTux :)
18:25 < rxr> hi mnemoc 
18:25 < rxr> erhm - MadTux  ;-)
18:25 < daja77> hi MadTux 
18:25 < mnemoc> rxr: can you chanserv set topic ?
18:25 < MadTux> alcoholly!
18:25 < mnemoc> wb MadTux!
18:25 < MadTux> rxr: hi! Nice stuff on the release
18:25 < holyolli> MadTux: jepp. today again..but that was the last time.. ;-)
18:25 < MadTux> mnemoc: hello :)
18:26 < MadTux> holyolli: you have said tht to me so many times.. :P
18:26 < mnemoc> hi last-time-ollie :)
18:27 < holyolli> hi mnemoc *fg*
18:27 < holyolli> MadTux: since yesterday, our class doesn't exist anymore - everybody is now going his own way ;((
18:27 < MadTux> aren't you guys supposed to be drunk and celebrating the release?
18:27 < MadTux> :)
18:27 < rxr> mnemoc: I lost my rxr password for the IRC and so can not become OP
18:27 < rxr> anyone with OP status here ... esden or so :.. ;-)
18:27 < MadTux> holyolli: WTF?!?! why what happened?
18:28 < mnemoc> to find esden is harder than asking #freenode for help with your password :)
18:28 < MadTux> indeed.
18:29 < holyolli> MadTux: we all finished our training. from now on we have to wait for the next...but it isn't anymore with the lh-school
18:29 < MadTux> why not!?
18:30 < MadTux> ollie i think we are OT here query
18:30 < holyolli> jepp
18:31 < mnemoc> /msg -freenode ChanServ access #rocklinux list rxr
18:31 < mnemoc> 37w 5d 18h 28m 44s
18:31 < mnemoc> :)
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18:33 < jsaw> rxr: don't know where to get it... no idea. when I find sth. I'll send a patch... or my own js calibrator is ready for release before...
18:50 < jsaw> rxr: another thing: my dialog patch. I discard it, because I think we should not make any experiments like that just before release.
18:50 < jsaw> rxr: I haven't seen any screen curroption, but one never knows...
18:54 * mnemoc lunch... cu
18:58 < MadTux> NOO!!
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18:59 < blindy> fascinating
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19:18 < netrunner> daja77: found, thx :)
19:19 < daja77> good :)
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20:33 < mnemoc> re
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21:05 < mnemoc> daja77: can you ask SMP or clifford to change $topic? :)
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21:14 * tantive is away: I'm busy
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21:19 < mnemoc> tcr: do u know any patch for bash to complete files \=* ?
21:26 < darix> clifford: you just eat up here and are working again now?:)
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21:39 < tcr> mnemoc, I assume that comes from the use of tla? :)
21:44 < mnemoc> you are right :)
21:45 < tcr> http://mirrors.sourcecontrol.net/tez@kamihira.com--2003/bash/
21:46 < blindy> tla?
21:46 < mnemoc> arch
21:47 < blindy> ah
21:52 * blindy gone
21:52 < mnemoc> cu blindy 
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21:59 < tcr> re rammi
21:59 < daja77> re
21:59 < mnemoc> how it is going daja77?
21:59 < tcr> rammi, what was your point about the tshirts (back then when you asked nobody replied to you)
21:59 < rammi> re
22:00 < daja77> mnemoc: nice dunno what the rest of the project is doin, but i enjoy net from games booth
22:00 < rammi> I could make some t-shirts design.. if you wont
22:00 < tcr> daja77, moin. where are you
22:01 < tcr> rammi, I think that's still pretty welcome
22:01 < daja77> tcr: clt
22:01 < tcr> daja77, mmkey
22:02 < rammi> trc: Is there any rule about makeing a design for a t-shirt, or I can use my idea?
22:02 < daja77> rammi: yep it should be cool ;)
22:04 < tcr> rammi, Uh, I'd say just start off with what's in your head and send proposals to the ml and listen to the feedback
22:04 < mnemoc> rammi: sure you can... but... can we know? ;)
22:04 < rammi> guys, I must go off line now, I'll back for and hour? then we will talk
22:04 < mnemoc> cu rammi 
22:04 < rammi> cu
22:04 < tcr> bye
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22:26 < rxr> so cu all
22:26 < rxr> freshmeat announcement pushed and we are at:
22:26 < rxr> http://www.symlink.ch/
22:26 < rxr> more PR will follow soon ;-)
22:26 < rxr> wow 22:22:22 here ... ;-)
22:27 < rxr> good time to vanish
22:28 < tcr> gn8 rxr
22:29 < mnemoc> *good* night rxr
22:29 < tfing> gn rene
22:29 < mnemoc> google takes ages to translate symlink.ch :(
22:30 < tfing>  rxr straight beside me stands and reports that the long work disbursed itself and today on the Chemnitzer Linuxtag  SKIRT Linux  2,0 one published. 
22:30 < mnemoc> thanks :)
22:31 < tfing> i am wondering what disbursed means
22:31 < mnemoc> "... Linuxtag SKIRT Linux 2,0 ..."
22:31 < mnemoc> SKIRT? ;\
22:31 < tfing> that's the name of the project :)
22:31 < tfing> SKIRT Linux
22:32 < mnemoc> =)
22:32 < rxr> tfing: the german text like "the work was successfull" or "paid back" or so ..
22:32 < tfing> ok
22:32 < rxr> in german "Rock" is skirt, yes ...
22:32 < rxr> tfing: you should not use babelfish on it ...
22:33 < tfing> i was using google, following mnemoc's hint
22:33 < mnemoc> From the skirt star department :)
22:35 < mnemoc> nothing on freshmeat yet :\
22:46 < tcr> daja77, what's up on the clt
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23:08 < rammi> re
23:09 < tcr> re
23:11 < rammi> about the t-shirts.. 
23:11 < tcr> yups
23:12 < tcr> Do you have anything particular in mind?
23:12 < rammi> ... mm.. maybe... but it's still in progress
23:13 < rammi> will t-shirts be printed in one or both side?
23:13 < tcr> Are you subscribed to the mailinglist?
23:14 * Kracdon is back (gone 02:06:25)
23:14 < rammi> yes, but I don't have internet time at the moment.. 
23:14 < rammi> so I don't have acces to my mail box
23:14 < tcr> rammi: There is no requirement on that regard. It shouldn't be all that fancy however
23:15 < rammi> okej.. 
23:15 < tcr> fancy as in many different colors, high-resolution pictures... you know stuff that will bump the cost exponentially
23:16 < rammi> then on side t-shirt?
23:16 < rammi> that's ok by me...
23:16 < tcr> what do you mean with on side?
23:16 < mnemoc> one*
23:17 < rammi> one.. sorry "1"
23:17 < tcr> ack
23:17 < tcr> rammi, well I'd a two sided one
23:17 < mnemoc> little banner on front and real thing in the back?
23:18 < tcr> Yeah something like that
23:18 < rammi> yeap.. 
23:19 < rammi> what do you think about adding a rock logo on the t-shirt.. ? yes or no?
23:19 < mnemoc> front: i vote for just 'ROCKLinux.org'
23:20 < mnemoc> and even without the .org
23:21 < Kracdon> so... after reading "few" documents it is still bit unclear... does rock have prebuild packages (uptodate with easy install) or do i have to build every app from source?
23:22 < mnemoc> Kracdon: we _sometimes_ have one or two bins
23:22 < mnemoc> Kracdon: but rock is to be built
23:23 < Kracdon> ok... so i should steal my friends cpus to be used in distcc so i could think about installing rock..  ;p
23:24 < rammi> mnemoc: I will post my design on the channel when I finish it.. ? ok
23:24 < rammi> in a few days..
23:24 < mnemoc> Kracdon: you can build 2.0.0 desktop iso which is currently availble
23:25 < tcr> rammi, ack
23:25 < mnemoc> rammi: great :)
23:25 < mnemoc> Kracdon: s/build/install/
23:25 < rammi> and, yes. I think it's the time you change the topic.. ;)
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23:26 < Kracdon> ok... thanks...
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23:29 < rammi> where can I see some list of pkg's included in  2.0.0
23:32 < tcr> http://www.rocklinux.net/packages/
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23:35 < rammi> CU.. its sleeping time 
23:35 < mnemoc> gn8 rammi 
23:36 < rammi> tnx
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