--- Log opened Tue Mar 16 00:00:14 2004
00:00 < darix> are there any devel galleries?
00:00 < darix> o.O
00:00 < daja77> on the hp, yes
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00:01 < darix> *looks*
00:05 < darix> ok
00:05 < darix> sorted out the who is who :)
00:09 < daja77> http://lists.debian.org/debian-curiosa/2003/debian-curiosa-200309/msg00012.html
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00:11 < dreamind> Hi
00:14 < netrunner> oh, wow http://www6.alternate.de/html/nodes_info/imal94.html
00:15 < netrunner> usbstick with 1,5GB for 119EUR
00:15 < darix> oh
00:15 * netrunner -> bed
00:15 < netrunner> n8 *
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00:41 < fake> *grml*
00:41 < daja77> hm?
00:41 < fake> you forgot me *snueff*
00:42 < daja77> <- is screwed
00:42 < fake> <- crying :_:
00:42 < fake> ;)
00:42 < daja77> and i even made photos of him
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00:42 < fake> who - me ??
00:42 < daja77> yep
00:43 < daja77> not uploaded anywhere :)
00:43 < fake> your a lucky boy ;P
00:43 < daja77> hehe
00:43 < daja77> indeed I am
00:44 * fake watching cheap star-trek remake on Kabel1
00:45 < darix> fake: ?
00:45 < fake> outer limits crap
00:45 < darix> uh
00:46 < darix> i would check sat.1 or rtl if i were at home.
00:46 < fake> a mix of star trek and event horizon, it seems
00:46 < fake> sat1: some damn judge series
00:46 < fake> and rtl some report
00:46 < fake> booring
00:46 < fake> s,judge,court,
00:47 < darix> uh already this late
00:47 < darix> normally there should be this NYC major comedy with micheal j fox.
00:48 < fake> yeah i know that, that's funny
00:48 < darix> and home improve should be on rtl soon
00:49 < daja77> haven't watched rtl for ages
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00:50 < fake> the only interesting thing on sat1 is der bulle von toelz or komissar rex, but i only like those if i am absolutely square
00:51 < darix> fake: you forget about star dreck at the weekend :D
00:51 < fake> oh yeah, but the german synchronisation is horrible
00:52 < daja77> ack
00:52 < fake> i watched the 18th ep of season 3 yesterady
00:52 < fake> and now i can't await the next one
00:52 < SMP> :->>
00:52 < daja77> hi SMP 
00:52 < darix> moin smp
00:53 < fake> SMP: i couldn't stand waiting, now i'm pissed :(
00:54 < SMP> take it easy ;)
00:55 < fake> yeah, i'll continue with andromeda until end of april
00:55 < daja77> new episodes?
00:55 < fake> season 4 ep 16 is on tonight on my private tv ;)
00:55 < daja77> hehe
00:55 < daja77> it is a pity that it got worse and worse
00:56 < SMP> why the hell are we building linux26 in bootdisk when we're already building linux24?
00:56 < fake> i think it gets better - except for tyrs quit
00:56 < fake> SMP: *duck*
00:56 < daja77> he quits
00:56 * fake innocent
00:57 < fake> daja77: but he reappears in the later season 4 eps
00:57 < daja77> SMP: cos rxr thinks it is needed cos on some machines 2.6 should work better than 2.4, dunno, i hate this too
00:57 < fake> it's redicilous
00:57 < fake> we can't load 2.6 modules with the current linuxrc
00:58 < daja77> all i have seen from 2.6 was brokenness
00:58 * fake is very satisifed with 2.6, except umsdosfs missing
00:59 < daja77> maybe i should test it on other machines ^^
00:59 < fake> i haven't even bothered testeing it on mips
00:59 < daja77> hehe
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01:04 < fake> me want beer
01:09 < darix> what imap servers are in rocklinux so far?
01:10 < SMP> courier-imap
01:10 < darix> than i have a little suggestion for you: http://www.dovecot.org
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01:11 < SMP> darix: feel free to package it
01:11 < darix> SMP: i do. just not for rocklinux. :)
01:12 < darix> and i dont have the time to learn it atm.
01:14 < fake> what's wrong with courier-imap? ;)
01:14 < darix> *looks for the link*
01:14 < SMP> lots.
01:15 < darix> fake: you know irssi i guess?
01:15 < darix> dovecot is from the same author. 
01:15 < SMP> but I use courier-imap and I don't have a problem with it
01:15 < darix> cras audited all available imap servers and came to the conclusion he needed to write his own
01:16 < SMP> why the hell does an IMAP server need privilege separation?!
01:16 < darix> <@cras> http://irccrew.org/~cras/security/advisories/ - they're all listed there if someone cares :)
01:16 < darix> SMP: why does sshd need?
01:17 < darix> http://irccrew.org/~cras/security/c-guide.html http://dovecot.fi/doc/securecoding.txt
01:17 < SMP> because it would have been too hard to really fix the design
01:18 < darix> http://irccrew.org/~cras/security/os.html
01:18 < darix> http://irccrew.org/~cras/security/ for all his security stuff
01:18 < SMP> IMAP servers should not handle untrusted data as a privileged user, and thus don't need privsep
01:19 < darix> SMP: one advantage is: you can run the little imap binary via ssh tunnnel and read you mail this way. instead of extra listen
01:19 < SMP> I do that all the time with courier-imap
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01:38 < daja77> n8
01:46 < fake> ipsec on dyndns ?
01:48 < darix> fake: why not?
01:48 < fake> how? (speaking KAME)
01:49 < darix> oh i thought it was a theoretical question. :)
01:49 < darix> fake: i dont use ipsec so far. openvpn here.
01:50 < fake> openvpn is far, far away from ipsec
01:51 < darix> might be.
01:51 < darix> but its working for me. and it worked through the ltag Firewall ;)
02:02 < darix> i wonder if kame will work with cisco ipsec stuff.
02:03 < SMP> why would it not?
02:04 < SMP> I prefer isakmpd instead of racoon though
02:05 < darix> SMP: hmm 2.4 didnt work.
02:05 < darix> only with preshared secret.
02:05 < darix> and this wasnt an alternative with 1500-1800 users.
02:06 < darix> so far we can use vpnc or cisco client.
02:06 < SMP> you mean on Linux 2.4?
02:06 < darix> yes
02:06 < darix> with freeswan of course.
02:07 < fake> SMP: obsd isakmpd with dynamic ips? the ugly binary version that supports this segfaults on one of the two nodes
02:07 < SMP> blah, freeswan crap
02:07 < darix> SMP: it was the "official" ipsec solution for linux 1.5y ago
02:08 < fake> oh 'why would it not' was a reply to the cisco interop.. :(
02:08 < darix> :)
02:08 < SMP> fake: not sure what you mean by 'with dynamic ips', but -yes- my Linux ipsec node is on dynamic IP
02:08 < fake> SMP: if both sides get assigned dynamic ips by the provider
02:09 < fake> only IP is accepted in the isakmpd.conf Address= line
02:09 < SMP> because, unfortunately, OpenBSD does not support ISDN
02:09 < fake> o_O ?
02:09 < SMP> fake: both ends dynamic IP always needs a hack
02:10 < fake> hrmpf.
02:10 < SMP> but with isakmpd it is actually easier, because you can use the fifo to change the config while isakmpd is running
02:10 < fake> mesh-routing with openvpn - 5 trillion open ports...
02:10 < fake> hey, yeah... right..
02:12 < darix> nn
02:12 < fake> you don't have such a hack's files lying around anywhere ready to be mailed by accident?
02:12 < fake> <= lazy
02:12 < SMP> no, never done this
02:13 < fake> hm, ok, then i'll schedule it for tomorrow ;)
02:13 < SMP> but I suppose it doesn't take much more than a call to dnsip (or whatever you use to get the IP for a hostname) and three 'echo's into the FIFO
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03:03 < jsaw> re
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07:44 < Baldzius> moin
07:46 < Baldzius> i have a huge problem and maybe it is a known issue
07:47 < Baldzius> i did Update-System and on glibc package i got segmentation fault
07:48 < Baldzius> now almost on everything i get segmentetions and core dumps
07:49 < Baldzius> changing kernels didn't help
07:49 < Baldzius> damn, what happend?
08:00 < SMP> libc or ld-linux screwed
08:01 < SMP> what version of gcc and glibc did you have installed, what versions did Update-System build?
08:01 < SMP> do you have the original glibc.gem available?
08:05 < Baldzius> well , i don't know what is screwed
08:05 < rxr> rehi
08:06 < Baldzius> i have rock 2.0.1 scripts
08:06 < Baldzius> and ran update-system
08:06 < Baldzius> and then on glibc package build it hang
08:07 < Baldzius> now on commands like tail make umount i get core dumps
08:08 < Baldzius> should i upgrade ld-config? whit gem?
08:08 < rxr> Baldzius: reinstall the glibc .gem from the CD ...
08:09 < Baldzius> ok if it let me :)
08:09 < Baldzius> am afraid i'll get core dump :)
08:10 < Baldzius> hm i am thinking, maybe the problem is in hw like RAM or shmtg
08:10 < Baldzius> that computer is quite old
08:10 < Baldzius> everything could happen
08:11 < SMP> use the boot-cd if you can't do it from within the system
08:11 < Baldzius> ok i'll try to upgarde glibc from .gem
08:11 < SMP> and no, the problem is not hardware or kernel
08:13 < Baldzius> hm
08:18 < rxr> http://www.linux-events.de/LinuxPark/cebit04/Specials/openbooth.html
08:21 < cchamilt> Usually the best way to upgrading a glibc is to build whatever tool chain is necessary for it first - ie. new gcc and binutils...
08:22 < cchamilt> rock isnt tested for old gccs or old glibcs anymore, so it is unsafe to just update glibc first as it hasnt been tested against old stuff.
08:22 < cchamilt> after glibc is up, reboot (yes you should), then rebuild the tool chain again.
08:24 < SMP> I don't see how Update-System could build a glibc that is not backwards compatible
08:25 < cchamilt> Then if you try and compile new things you have to be careful of linking against stale (old glibc) libraries and other tool changes.
08:26 < cchamilt> Because glibc is not as smart as their developers think it is and no one tests upgrades.  Almost all distros just beat the system over the head with a fresh install after the initial attempt at getting a working tool chain.
08:26 < cchamilt> The problem is not that the new glibc cant make wonderful new well working bins, it is just that they dont react to well to being stuck in an old system.
08:28 < rxr> a glibc update in a running system usually work in ROCK
08:29 < rxr> what was the old glibc used before the update?
08:29 < cchamilt> how many have you tried?
08:29 < rxr> was it over-optimized?
08:29 < rxr> a few
08:29 < rxr> http://www.rocklinux.net/typo3/
08:29 < cchamilt> what else did you do after?
08:29 < rxr> ^- left has a new hotspot
08:29 < rxr> cchamilt: use the system as usual
08:30 < cchamilt> No problems compiling new tools without a reboot? 
08:30 < rxr> when updataing to a version w/in the same major release it does work
08:31 < rxr> Baldzius: what was the ROCK Version and GLibC version before the Update-System?
08:31 < cchamilt> Yes, I will agree that ?.?.x changes are minor.
08:32 < cchamilt> Minus stale libs.
08:32 < Baldzius> a sec.
08:32 < netrunner> we are registered for linuxtag karlsruhe btw. I take reservations :)
08:33 < rxr> netrunner: I'll come
08:33 < Baldzius> yes
08:33 < Baldzius> seems glibc update form original gem did a trick
08:33 < Baldzius> now working no more core dumps :)
08:34 < Baldzius> rxr i have 2.0.1 scripts
08:34 < netrunner> rxr: you're standard inventory ;)
08:35 < Baldzius> and now i have 2.3.2 glibc
08:35 < netrunner> Baldzius: maybe you selected an optimization that was too high.
08:35 < Baldzius> i can do emerge-system to see if problem repeats
08:36 < Baldzius> looking ...
08:37 < Baldzius> no expert mode and optimisation only for pentium2
08:37 < SMP> did you copy the config from /etc/ROCK-CONFIG/ ? don't just create a new one!
08:39 < Baldzius> no i didn't
08:39 < netrunner> SMP: why not? 
08:39 < Baldzius> but i'll try to delete existing one & make new config
08:41 < cchamilt> hmm, maybe there should be a policy of updating the whole system if the tool chain is updated.
08:41 < SMP> netrunner: to make sure you get the same packages with the same options
08:45 < netrunner> SMP: isn't the package list recreated anyway when you run Config?
08:46 < SMP> yes it is. but it depends on the config (and it is deterministic ;)
08:52 < Baldzius> update-system always uses default config?
08:57 < rxr> http://www.rocklinux.net/typo3/index.php?id=98&backPID=2&tt_news=41
08:58 < rxr> ^- any suggestions ?
09:01 < daja77> yep
09:02 < jsaw> hi all
09:02 < rxr> hi jsaw 
09:02 < daja77> We'll be presenting ROCKLinux in the Openbooth area at Linuxpark.
09:03 < jsaw> rxr: why did you remove the description caching from rockplug?
09:06 < rxr> I want it readable for now - and most of the time is spent matching the moduels
09:06 < rxr> aside from the fact that it was matched two times ...
09:06 < daja77> and that it is slow
09:07 < jsaw> I talk about caching. Not about matching.
09:07 < jsaw> description caching
09:07 < rxr> yes - I first wanted to correct that those things are matched _two_ times
09:07 < jsaw> that code is not used anymore.
09:07 < rxr> which speeds up initial probing x2 two
09:08 < jsaw> if you wanted to correct the two times thing, still, what has that to do with desc caching?
09:08 < rxr> and module matching took the most time - so I chaced those
09:08 < rxr> I do not want so much stuff in it - it already became far more complex then it should have been
09:12 < jsaw> okay, 10 lines of extra code just to store the device description, ..., well?
09:12 < jsaw> then we should rip of the whole description extraction.
09:13 < rxr> btw: I still have not got what this HOST s.th. overwrite should be for ...
09:15 < jsaw> ah, good point.
09:15 < jsaw> that's for some special drivers, that do not behave well.
09:15 < jsaw> these will -with your recent changes- not be handled anymore
09:19 < daja77> pcmcia perhaps?
09:19 < rxr> which drivers should that be - and why can't they handled via the generic USB_MODULES?
09:19 < jsaw> nope, some special usb drivers
09:19 < rxr> or USB_SKIP_MODULES?
09:20 < jsaw> that's what I voted for LONG time ago, then YOU came and said, the driver itself is a pci device and thus belongs to pci
09:20 < rxr> ah yes - even better
09:21 < rxr> why can't the drivers be loaded with it ?
09:22 < jsaw> they can of course, it's a question what the user finally expects. My personal opinion is, that the usb host drivers and device drivers all belong into the usb section. Therefore ppl should use USB_HCD or so to load their special driver.
09:23 < rxr> I do not agree - it is confusing
09:23 < rxr> and adds ugly code
09:23 < jsaw> ? hmm
09:23 < jsaw> you yourself did exactly this by ripping the code from pci?
09:23 < rxr> I expect PCI devices to appear in the PCI section / code - and ISA devices in the ISA config / code
09:23 < jsaw> slightly contradicting yourself?
09:24 < rxr> when it is a PCI USB host chip it should be auto-detected by PCI - or if not possible configured to load via the PCI scripts
09:24 * netrunner just failed trying to compile openssh on the old suse6
09:25 < rxr> jsaw: I do not want extra code for it - not in PCI and neither in USB - if it can just be loaded via PCI_MODULES
09:25 < netrunner> they don't want to let me upgrade it, fear they wouldn't be able to secretly surf the inet for a few hours.
09:26 < rxr> but I'm away now again
09:26 < jsaw> rxr: AGAIN: not all usb devices report their capabilities correctly. THEREFORE, the probing of hcd and hci modules is in place. Additionally, there are some special products (I forgot which driver that is)
09:26 < daja77> netrunner: lol, 3h without pr0n?
09:26 < jsaw> that do not get detected correctly, therefore an override.
09:27 < jsaw> (well actually it gets misdetected, iirc)
09:27 < netrunner> daja77: probably. I just silently mentioned this possibility, and earned 3 balls of paper and several moans.
09:28 < daja77> hehehe
09:32 * netrunner started to write a todo to not forget stuff I want to fix in ROCK
09:33 < rxr> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/foren/go.shtml?read=1&msg_id=2356030&forum_id=33945
09:33 < jsaw> :) (I have a todo but it tends to grow, because it's write only...)
09:34 < daja77> hehe like my kind of todos
09:36 < jsaw> me off now, cu l8r
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09:39 * netrunner found an old one and extended it. http://waterworld.dyndns.org/wiki/index.php?page=RockLinux
09:43 < rxr> jsaw: please always specify what was fixed in svn commit logs
09:43 < rxr> s.th. like "-tiny fixes"
09:43 < rxr> is _not_ helpful
09:43 < jsaw> I did.
09:43 < rxr> always specify some noun
09:43 < jsaw> what's missing?
09:44 < rxr> like "fixed xyz this and that for USB bla bla"
09:44 < rxr> Log:
09:44 < rxr> -tiny fixes
09:44 < rxr> New Revision: 164
09:46 < jsaw> should have read "typo fixes", sorry
09:47 < jsaw> but that does not have to interest you, it's outside the code path.
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09:49 < rxr> jsaw: I just read thru my inbox
09:50 < rxr> jsaw: no problem - just wanted to mention that SVN logs need to be verbose to wrok sufficent with it ...
09:50 * rxr finally gone again
09:50 < jsaw> rxr: oh, btw, can you please change the email address?
09:50 < jsaw> don't worry, let's do that later.
09:53 < jsaw> finally I have to switch to read-only, too
09:58 < rxr> jsaw: query me the address and I'll change it
09:58 < rxr> jsaw: btw I have reviewed the PPP ROCK Net module
09:58 < rxr> jsaw: I hope you like that one more then my ROCK Plug changes
09:58 < rxr> jsaw: it now should be able to handle normal analog dial-ups
09:59 < rxr> jsaw: at least I can CSM and GPRS with my handy wirh it
09:59 < rxr> jsaw: PPP still works (tested) - but the config API changed a bit ...
09:59 * rxr really really gone now ...
09:59 * rxr yeah I know I typed it a few times now ...
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11:59 < netrunner> what means "./scripts/Build-Pkg: line 544: mount: command not found" during 2-gcc3 ?
12:00 < netrunner> ok, that 1-util-linux did not build.
12:12 < netrunner> could somebody please verify if stage 1 builds normal?
12:18 < Baldzius_> :)
12:18 < Baldzius_> i am still compiling glibc , now without optimisations
12:19 < Baldzius_> smhtg is wrong
12:22 < netrunner> without optimizations does not work iirc.
12:25 < Baldzius_> well for now i need working glibc :)
13:16 < netrunner> Baldzius_: I think you have to select at least pentium or pentium-mmx, but this is dark memory :)
13:24 < daja77> == 13:08:17 =[1]=> Building base/linux26-src [2.6.4 2.0.1].
13:25 < daja77> -> Building build/.../pkgs/linux26-src-2.6.3.tar.bz2
13:25 < daja77> huh?
13:25 * daja77 scratching his head
13:26 < netrunner> hm, deja vue
13:26 < daja77> you had this too?
13:27 < netrunner> once before a time. But cannot remember what it was.
13:28 < netrunner> something has screwed the build scripts imho. I get a several parse errors already in stage 1
13:29 < daja77> check for svn conflicts, had some too, that brake gcc3 e.g.
13:31 < daja77> restarting rt build
13:33 < rxr> netrunner: nope - no optimization means -O or -Ox
13:33 < rxr> netrunner: nothing to do with architectural optimizations
13:33 < rxr> netrunner: glibc just needs inlinning or it will not work reliable
13:33 < daja77> rxr still here :)
13:33 < rxr> netrunner: but IIRC we add it silently in the glibc package so it does -O at least to assure it will work
13:33 < rxr> daja77: I'm writting our PR paper for CeBIT here at Susan
13:33 < daja77> cool
13:33 < rxr> I'll be on the way to Hannoer in some hours
13:33 < rxr> btw. scribus sucks big time
13:33 < daja77> shall i review some stuff?
13:35 < rxr> 1.0.1 is even too instable for a simple A4 paper with two collom
13:35 < daja77> you have a mac, use quark xpress 
13:35 * daja77 hides
13:43 < netrunner> rxr: ah, ok.
13:47 < netrunner> rxr: have you changed anything in the core scripts that could explain the mount thing i posted above or the "scripts/Build-Target: eval: line 1: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `''" I get at the end of the failed 1-iproute2?
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13:49 < rxr> netrunner: nopte
13:50 < rxr> netrunner: a desktop install and reference build run just fine
13:50 < rxr> I have been quite strict with changes in the freeze this time ...
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13:53 < netrunner> grmbl. tracing the error-that-cant-be-there :/
13:54 < netrunner> how do I use that xtrace option? I activated it but do not have another log or so (or don't find it ;)
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14:05 < daja77> aaargs he does it again
14:05 < daja77> claiming to build 2.6.4 and packaging 2.6.3, wtf
14:05 < rxr> netrunner: the log is between the usual log lines ...
14:05 < rxr> daja77: maybe some tag mismathed somewhere in linux26* ...
14:06 < daja77> i removed them an let svn restore them
14:09 < netrunner> maybe a patch that changes the version?
14:10 < netrunner> even better, read what is inside linux26-src/linux26-src.conf: ". $base/package/base/linux24-src/linux24-src.conf"
14:11 < netrunner> same with header ...
14:11 < netrunner> ah, no, that's 24 , sorry ;)
14:11 * netrunner getting stupid from working with windows all day
14:12 < daja77> hehe
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14:35 < laga> re
14:38 < rolla> re
14:51 < mnemoc> moin
14:52 < laga> strange. i installed drock (full) to build rock-srtc etc, and now, i aborts in stage 1.."Build tools.chroot/wrapper/cmd_wrapper"
14:52 < laga> "cc: installation problem, cannot exec cc1: no such file or directory"
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15:02 < tfing_> daja77: scummvm 0.6.0 is out, i emerge, test with full throttle and sm send
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15:31 < cytrinox`-> moin
15:34 < laga_> moin
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16:18 < daja77> tfing_: k.
16:18 < daja77> when build machine is up again and after cebit i'll check my repo
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17:01 < netrunner> hm, what about a sanity check that checks for -f $i && -f $i.mine && -f $i.r* ... that was the reason for my last problem.
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17:02 < netrunner> ah, the other one comes from the html-output module.
17:05 < netrunner> util-linux still fails. :( blockdev.c:70: syntax error before '[' token
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17:06 < mnemoc> netrunner: that kind of errors use to be because a failed include
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18:02 < blindy> moin
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19:01 < fake> i'm wondering - will gentoo be on cebit?
19:02 < laga_> which linux distros will be there?
19:02 < fake> no info on the linux media page so far
19:02 < laga_> ah, k.
19:03 < SMP> ehm
19:03 < fake> but we will ;)
19:03 < laga_> i'll not be there, i haven't found any playe to sleep :-/
19:03 * fake will stay far, far away from the cebit
19:04 < tcr> fake: too many suits, eh?
19:04 < SMP> http://www.linux-events.de/LinuxPark/cebit04/Specials/openbooth.html
19:04 < fake> too many people!
19:04 < SMP> so Debian will be there as well, Gentoo not (at least not at the Open Booth, it seems)
19:04 < fake> SMP: uh
19:05 < fake> how did you find that, i have been looking hard...
19:05 < SMP> Rene pasted it yesterday
19:05 < fake> oh.
19:05 < fake> ... and too many 'beutelratten'
19:06 < laga_> beutelratten? hehe, i think i would be one of those :)
19:06 < laga_> .oO(..is there any rocklinux merchandise?...)
19:07 < fake> yeah, rock linux source code free for all
19:07 < laga_> cool :)
19:19 < daja77> debian is there
19:19 < daja77> i am wondering what news they have to tell
19:47 < daja77> build machine is online again
19:47 < daja77> and upgraded
20:03 < laga_> debian? hehe. "we've just upgraded xfree in our experimental tree too version 4.2.2. wooohoo!" :)
20:05 < daja77> hehe
20:06 < darix> laga_: debilian - even children package for us. 
20:06 < darix> debian - we released our next stable. it is already outdated.
20:08 < laga_> hrhr.
20:08 < laga_> ok, imho debian rocks, because it is stable etc, but is very, very outdated :(
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21:58 * rolla does a dance
21:58 < daja77> hi rolla, why
21:59 < rolla> I have sold 3-4 of my alpha's
21:59 < rolla> so I can buy a amd64
21:59 < daja77> hehe
21:59 * daja77 got a athlon xp 3000+ now
21:59 < rolla> cool that is better than my 2500+ 
22:00 < daja77> 2.1 ghz real clock
22:00 < laga_> and i have only a xp 1800+ :(
22:00 < daja77> yep that was in the machine that died after clt
22:01 < rolla> daja77: yeah I have a 1.8Ghz
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22:14 < josef> clifford: here?
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22:32 < apache_king> anyone around?
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22:33 < apache_king> I have been building rock 2.0 for the past 7 days
22:33 < SMP> yes
22:33 < apache_king> my tired old pc can't handle it
22:33 * netrunner just got home. 
22:34 < netrunner> daja77: I still beat you with 2 2400+ :)
22:34 < daja77> hehe np with that
22:52 * netrunner still wonders why stage 1 does not compile. it did 2 weeks ago 
22:59 < netrunner> util linux plain extracted and built works.
23:01 < netrunner> and the damn src.blubb dir is emtpy (but 2 files)
23:04 < netrunner> hm, the patches work
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23:43 < jsaw_> re
23:43 < jsaw_> hi all
23:43 < daja77> hi jsaw_ 
23:44 < jsaw_> hi daja77 
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23:46 < rxr> rehi
23:47 < daja77> wb rxr
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