--- Log opened Wed Mar 17 00:00:28 2004
00:03 < jsaw> oh oh, gtk v2.4 arrived
00:04 < daja77> the cry of pain ;)
00:05 < jsaw> i scream silently...
00:05 < daja77> does anybody uses gnome still?
00:06 < jsaw> yep
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01:17 < esdentem> hi all
01:17 < esdentem> is anyone awake?
01:17 < daja77> yep me
01:17 < esdentem> hi daja77 
01:17 < daja77> hi esden
01:17 < esdentem> do you perhups know what is going on with gnu.org?
01:18 < esdentem> I can not connect to it? ... can you take a look?
01:18 < esdentem> and I also have not found any evidence of this site being down on any news site
01:20 < daja77> can't connect too
01:20 < esdentem> hmm ... that is strange
01:20 < daja77> http://www.anvari.org/db/fun/Misc/Wish_You_Were_Here.gif
01:20 < esdentem> and noone reported about that yet? o_O
01:21 < daja77> should we?
01:21 < daja77> hmm it would be time to be onb /. again *ggg*
01:23 < esdentem> lol
01:23 < esdentem> daja77: yes we should
01:23 < esdentem> but I really do not know how to submit anything
01:27 < daja77> i'd know, but i have to pack my stzuff for cebit
01:28 < esdentem> you are going there?
01:28 < esdentem> have fun
01:28 < daja77> yep rocklinux booth
01:29 < esdentem> ohh really? O_o
01:29 < esdentem> did not know about that ..
01:29 < esdentem> I really should read my mail more regularly
01:30 < esdentem> what is the status of 2.0 tree sbtw?
01:30 < daja77> yep we can present rock on linux new media's openbooth on thursday and friday
01:30 < daja77> 2.0.0 was released on chemnitzer linuxtag
01:30 < daja77> 2.0.1 will be released on cebit
01:31 < esdentem> cool
01:31 < daja77> yep
01:34 < mistik1> wow
01:34 < mistik1> congrats guys
01:34 < esdentem> hi mistik1 
01:34 < mistik1> on the 2.0 release I mean
01:35 < daja77> hi mistik1 
01:35 < mistik1> hey
01:36 < mistik1> looks like i'll have to get off my arse and start looking into doing a target with rock
01:37 < daja77> :)
01:37 < daja77> which target you want to make?
01:38 < mistik1> It'll be for a project I was recently asked to join, an embedded firewall solution
01:38 < mistik1> a for profit project
01:38 < daja77> np with that
01:39 < mistik1> The proposal is that they make the sales they send me the hardware I load it and configure it, I manage and push updates to them on a fee basis
01:40 < daja77> ;)
01:40 < mistik1> I donno what method i'll use for updating just yet though
01:40 < daja77> mine -i *ggg*
01:41 < mistik1> hmmmmm
01:41 < mistik1> I'm thinking or more of an image type thing
01:41 < daja77> or that
01:41 < mistik1> something I can rsync minus configs
01:42 < mistik1> more in the form of a firmware updater
01:43 < mistik1> http://www.acrosser.com/firewall/product/9926.htm#Overview  <-- one of the Proposed hardware options
01:57 < daja77> n8
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07:52 < Baldzius> moin
07:53 < Baldzius> what is the point of Create-UpdList ? :)
08:22 < rxr> re
08:22 < rxr> Baldzius: helper script for Update-System
08:23 < daja77> moin rxr
08:28 < netrunne1> moin *
08:28 < fake> moin
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08:29 < blindy> moin moin
08:30 < netrunner> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/36274.html
08:30 < netrunner> http://vivien.franken.de/images/geeky/geek.jpg
08:32 < Baldzius> rxr, so before Update-System i should run Create-UpdList?
08:33 < rxr> Baldzius: nope - it is run by Update-System internally
08:34 < Baldzius> but why then Update-System script installs new packages instead only upgrading existing ones?
08:46 < blindy> dependencies
08:50 < Baldzius> think so
08:50 < Baldzius> hm
08:59 < blindy> hmm
08:59 < blindy> I'm off to the gym now
08:59 < blindy> bye
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09:19 < rxr> Baldzius: IIRC it has a switch for this
09:21 < rxr> Baldzius: ok there is not - you can fill a bug report into flyspray
09:22 < rxr> www.rocklinux.net/flyspray
09:22 < rxr> this needs to be fixed
09:29 < rxr> this damn debian installer got on /.
09:30 < rxr> when two (ye, two) high quality ROCK Linux news submissions have been rejected
09:36 < netrunner> http://www.winethirty.com/default.aspx?document=125
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10:18 < Baldzius> as always i have stupid questions, how can i see what Update-System is going to do -> update maybe some packages install for dependecies, is there some kind of option like in gentoo as pretend
10:18 < Baldzius> huh? :)
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10:35 < rxr> cu
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11:27 < netrunner> *g* http://bash.org/?244321
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11:30 < clifford> netrunner: *rotfl*
11:36 < fake> hi clifford!
11:38 < clifford> hi fake.
11:49 * fake thinks with 400GB drives the current sotrage technology is no longer appropiate
11:49 < fake> *storage
11:50 < fake> deleting should be ridicolous
11:59 < fake> data should be 'forgotten' based on priorities
12:00 < fake> so only important data stays in long-term storage
12:01 < netrunner> fake: people tend to forget their data anyway :)
12:01 < fake> yeah, and nobody can 'delete' memories, the concept of 'deleting' is completely artificial
12:05 < netrunner> fake: don't think so. the more stuff you have there, the more you have to search through to find what you want.
12:12 < jsaw_> rehi
12:13 < jsaw_> fake: not quite true. The dream process is the best repartition, compressing and deletion algorithm.
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12:27 < clifford> "Hey! Are you sleeping!?" - "No, I'm just running my garbage collector.."  ;-)
12:32 < fake> is ipsec-tools base?
12:33 < fake> or fake ?
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12:55 < jsaw_> clifford: :)
13:03 < darix> moin clifford 
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13:28 < blindy> rehi
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13:56 < darix> https://monsters.rsn.uni-rostock.de/repositories/irssi/trunk/www.irssi.de/
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14:10 < laga> re
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14:10 < netrunner> hi lagaunderscore
14:11 < laga_> hi netrunnernothing
14:11 < laga_> it's because "this nick is owned by someone else" :)
14:12 < netrunner> the someone else will kick you if he finds out :)
14:12 * netrunner registered his nick once, forgot the pass and since then waits for the nick to expire.
14:13 < laga_> hehe :)
14:14 < laga_> ok, trying to get cpufreq to work, day #2.. :(
14:16 < blindy> sigh
14:16 * blindy booting Windows to be able to register at Palm to be able to download the Linux Source of POSE
14:17 < laga_> have fun. i've just got a kernel panic, i hate this cpufreq stuff.
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14:35 < rolla> re
14:38 < cytrinox`> moin
14:39 < laga_> moin
14:41 < rolla> apache_king?
14:48 < netrunner> burger_king?
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14:56 < laga__> re. i hate this disconnect every 24h
14:56 < netrunner> hm, haven't I submitted bacula?
15:01 < rolla> netrunner: have you seen holyoli?
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15:19 * A-Tui is away: comiendo[...]
15:25 < netrunner> rolla: rl: never irc: long ago (not in my lastlog)
15:29 < fake> SeenServ(SeenServ@services.)- I last saw holyolli (~holyolli@rossini.marcant.net) 2d 53m 16s ago, quiting: Client Quit
15:45 < rolla> dang
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18:22 < netrunner> what means "rosegardensequencer: relocation error: rosegardensequencer: undefined symbol: _ZN10Rosegarden8RealTimeC1Ell" ?
18:23 < darix> netrunner: it misses some c++ symbol
18:23 < darix> maybe some .o files wasnt linked
18:24 < netrunner> hm, trying to rebuild that ...ap
18:25 < darix> netrunner: try gcc docs to find out what function it was. :)
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18:26 < netrunner> darix: should be a symbol inside rosegarden. ... I think I have no time for debugging today :(
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18:32 < fake> Cxitpla fxe hxemj xeg pxa gx cxort gpqc xmt,
18:32 < fake>  keg mxa at aqoo bptbn qh fxe nmxa gpt bxoxezc.
18:32 < fake>  Apsg bxoxez qc gpt ksbnlzxemj xh gpqc vslt?
18:33 < fake> what F*** is the algorithm...
18:34 * fake tried simple rotX, cumultative rotX, cumultative rotX / word, step-based-rot-X (+ /word), logarythmic rotX...
18:34 < fake> lexical analysis quite useless...
18:35 < netrunner> fake: where does it come from?
18:35 < fake> netrunner: some hackit
18:35 < fake> it's the damn last level
18:36 < fake> and i am biting on it since an hour...
18:36 < fake> bxoxezc...
18:37 < fake> is usable with and without c...
18:37 * fake needs a break
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18:45 < fake> i have it
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20:22 < rxr> rehi
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20:34 < rolla> re all
20:34 < rolla> rxr you here?
20:57 < rxr> yes - fixing libtool problems
20:57 < rolla> does rock support AMD64 yet?
20:58 < rxr> it should (according to Clifford) but my last reference build was not that successful ..
20:58 < rolla> okay
21:08 < rxr> but now I'm off again - cu
21:09 < rolla> bye
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21:21 < aXp> hi
21:21 < aXp> how are packages maintained in rocklinux ?
21:25 < fake> what do you mean by 'maintained'?
21:25 < fake> updated? created?
21:31 < blindy> they are maintaned very good :)
21:40 < fake> ... if at all ;P
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21:41 < blindy> fake: psst
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22:06 < netrunner> maintained packages are maintained by their maintainer. unmaintained ones by other maintainers. sometimes.
22:06 * netrunner heating the iron
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22:16 < aXp> i want to know which packaging system deb rpm or build from source ??
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22:17 < laga_> *.gem?
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22:32 < dreamind> Hi
22:32 < laga_> hi
22:32 < dreamind> can anybody help me, I'm looking for some information about linux distributions for embedded systems...
22:33 < dreamind> I could roll out my own build one with dietlibc and gpe and such, but it would be fine to have one wich is already tested and such
22:33 < laga_> i'm sorry, i'm using only x86 hardware packaged in big towers :)
22:34 < dreamind> well ok ;)
22:35 < dreamind> I'm looking for two things, first a nicer distribution for my ipaq and second a distribution for the XXS which we plan to use as router...
22:36 < dreamind> xxs = amd alchemy based *really* small computer, drains about 5w
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22:42 < darix> dreamind: rocklinux has dietlibc support.
22:48 < dreamind> darix: well, that only helps a bit, I still need support for (for example) a small xserver and such
22:48 < dreamind> or for opie perhaps (if I really want that)
22:49 < darix> dreamind: i want an apache module for handle usb tokens ;)
22:51 < dreamind> huh?
22:52 < darix> dreamind: put usb token in my keyboard -> get authed to my site ;)
23:02 < dreamind> should already be possible
23:02 < dreamind> with a "strange" combination of existing things:
23:02 < dreamind> pam -> kerberos -> apache_mod_auth_pam (or is there a kerberos auth module for apache?)
23:03 < dreamind> (if there is pam support for your usb token)
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23:23 < MadTux> moin
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23:53 < netrunner> damnit, I did a svn diff in my playground, and find package updates and don't know If I sent them. I have these deja vue's :/
23:56 < netrunner> I now just take my submaster-tree as rationale, please comment if I send duplicates.
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23:58 < darix> netrunner: shouldnt a sync with the official tree tell you if you sent them?
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