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01:04 < rxr> ah - I should have found the damn bug that caused the SDL havox
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01:24 < rxr> n8 -all
01:24 < rxr> cu
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07:51 < cchamilt> anyone here?
07:53 < cchamilt> How do you switch the repo svn is tracking?
07:53 < cchamilt> Or should I say sm is tracking?
08:25 < netrunne1> moin
08:25 < netrunne1> cchamilt: you mean svn switch --relocate http://url1/blub/foo http://url2/blubb/foo ?
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08:37 < cchamilt> I guess, thanks.
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09:35 < rxr> re
09:36 < blindy> moin
09:37 < netrunner> moin rxr, blindy
09:37 < netrunner> rxr: how's going at cbit?
09:38 < netrunner> Is the linuxpark also visited by professionals that want to invest or is it just geeks there?
09:39 < rxr> netrunner: nice
09:39 < rxr> thanks
09:40 < netrunner> I hope you're not the only rl'er there? (/me couldn't plan that so fast, had deadlines at work :(
09:45 < rxr> nope 4
09:45 < rxr> daja, smp, susanne and /me ...
09:45 < rxr> netrunner: photos will follow tomorrow
10:09 < blindy> once you're used to it, programming for PalmOS isn't that difficult anymore...
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11:22 < BW371> hi
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11:24 < _NULL_> *hrmpf* everybody is sleeping 
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12:45 < blindy> damn, damn, damn, damn
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14:18 < BeatEinwerfer> hello
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14:32 < rolla> re
14:33 < laga_> re
14:54 < mnemoc> moin
14:56 < laga_> morje mnemoc
14:58 * mnemoc trying to figure out what 'morje' means
14:59 < rolla> re mnemoc 
14:59 < laga_> something like "moin", but another german dialect :)
14:59 < rolla> :)
15:01 < mnemoc> :)
15:02 < laga_> :)
15:02 < mnemoc> it means 'mere' in old-slavic o_O
15:03 < laga_> salve in latin.
15:05 < mnemoc> here latin is only teached for 3 univeristy careers from 4 curses (2 years) for hispanic literature and philosophy, and 6 for theology. i.e. nobody knows it  
15:05 < mnemoc> s/from//
15:06 < mnemoc> if you are lucky you get english or french at school :(
15:06 < rolla> :)
15:06 < rolla> mnemoc: here they don't teach it at all unless you want to be a lawyer or a doctor
15:07 < laga_> here is latin teached since the seventh class  (?), but you can choose english instead. 
15:07 < laga_> i chose latin... *shoots himself*
15:07 < rolla> laga_: where is here for you?
15:07 < laga_> rolla, germany.
15:07 < rolla> ach so
15:08 < laga_> ok, it's a "staatlich anerkannte katholische privatschule", that should explain..
15:08 < mnemoc> european education is far away from ours
15:08 < laga_> you are from chile?
15:09 < mnemoc> yep
15:09 < rolla> laga_: catholic?
15:09 < laga_> rolla, ack.
15:09 < mnemoc> catholic private school
15:09 < rolla> I see yes now I know why you are learning latin ;)
15:09 < laga_> hehe. and yes, it explains why my english is so bad :)
15:10 < mnemoc> i went to a catholic school too, and i got 4 years of english :|
15:10 < mnemoc> (of 12)
15:10 < laga_> hmm. 
15:11 < mnemoc> the priorities seems to be diffenrent... engineering takes 7 years
15:11 < mnemoc> medicine 8
15:11 < rolla> funny I went to public school and got 16 years of english ;)
15:11 < mnemoc> LOL
15:11 < laga_> <- 5,5 years of french, 3,5 years of latin and 1,5 years of english :)
15:11 < rolla> <- 16 year of english , 1 year of latin , 2 years of german
15:12 < mnemoc> rolla: why latin?
15:12 < mnemoc> to german?
15:12 < netrunner> mnemoc: cool language :)
15:12 * netrunner has some 6 years of it.
15:13 < rolla> mnemoc: I need a fine arts credit :)
15:13 < mnemoc> i wife studied it
15:13 < rolla> so I took latin and german one year
15:13 < rolla> then dropped latin cause it sucked
15:13 < laga_> latin isn't imho a cool language, it's too complicated. i still don't speak a bit of french or latin, it's just a waste of time
15:14 < laga_> but next year, i'm going to learn spain. spain is a really cool language :)
15:14 < mnemoc> your language structure is much more similar to latin than ours
15:14 < rolla> laga_: you mean spanish
15:14 < rolla> spain is the country
15:14 < laga_> rolla, err, yes.
15:14 < mnemoc> :)
15:14 < rolla> :)
15:14 < rolla> jsut remember you can always correct my german;)
15:14 * laga_ should read more english books
15:15 < laga_> rolla, ok. :)
15:15 < netrunner> the biggest problem with latin is that my teachers refused to teach communication in latin. just translating stuff is not enough imho. if you can speak a language, it's cool.
15:16 < laga_> rotfl. speaking latin? are you serious?
15:16 < netrunner> but there is only one school here I know of that teaches latin also to talk.
15:16 < netrunner> laga_: sure, why not? 
15:16 < laga_> speaking latin..i don't thnik that anybody except cicero spoke the latin they teach us iat school :)
15:17 < laga_> and imho it is useless to speak latin. do you want to be able to greet a roman if you need one? :)
15:17 < mnemoc> my wife's teachers teached it talking
15:18 < mnemoc> i wonder how proper their pronunciation is
15:18 < netrunner> laga_: it helps learning the language a lot. If I wouldn't talk that much english, I'd forget almost all of it. (that was also the reason why i knew english before going to school. learned from talking and listening.
15:19 < netrunner> currently I learn modlovian. not by reading the book I have (ok, I read a bit but I hate it) but from listening, trying to understand, repeating what I hear ...
15:19 < laga_> mnemoc, that is the problem: nobody knows how they pronounced it. if a german speaks english, it will sound really different to, umm, an american 
15:19 < laga_> netrunner, "modlovian"?
15:20 < mnemoc> gf?
15:20 < netrunner> it's kind of a dialect of romanian. spoken in moldova 
15:20 < netrunner> mnemoc: :)
15:20 < laga_> ah, k
15:20 < mnemoc> gf are a good way to learn languages :p
15:20 * netrunner currently sitting in a car-dealers office fixing his pc
15:21 * netrunner pretends this irc window is the command line :)
15:21 < laga_> netrunner, hehe. don't work too hard :)
15:21 < laga_> moldova = moldawien?
15:21 < netrunner> jup
15:22 < netrunner> at least today is warm enough to drive the cabrio open :)
15:22 < laga_> nope, here in the saarland, its quite cold. yesterday, the weather was lovely. sitting in the garden and surfing via wlan :)
15:22 < mnemoc> oh
15:23 < netrunner> laga_: blue heaven here, sun's shining, about 22 degrees :)
15:23 < laga_> netrunner, it already has rained today
15:24 < netrunner> laga_: keep it there :)
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15:28 < mnemoc> uhm... ssh tries identity and id_[rd]sa keys..... sftp only tries id_[rd]sa :\
15:29 < laga_> btw, is anyone here using a centrino laptop and can recommend me a daemon which underclocks the cpu?
15:29 * laga_ feels al little bit lost
15:33 < mnemoc> anyone knows if it's possible to redirect error.log (apache) using .htaccess?
15:39 < mnemoc> rolla?
15:39 < netrunner> laga_: tried the cpufreqd?
15:40 < netrunner> mnemoc: redirect error.log? what do you mean?
15:40 < mnemoc> ErrorLog $mydirectory/error.log
15:40 < mnemoc> using .htaccess
15:41 < rolla> mnemoc: U dont think so
15:41 < rolla> s/U/I/g
15:41 < laga_> netrunner, yes, but i dont know if it does what i want...the laptop runs wthe whole time on 600 mhz, and i've paid for 1400 :). i'll try the powernod. seems to be pretty cool, it only uses the cpu usage to detect which frequency to use
15:42 < mnemoc> adding that code everything gives err 500... do u think there is a chance in a different way?
15:42 < rolla> you can change it in the server config
15:42 < rolla> but you cannot have different errorlogs for each dir
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15:43 < mnemoc> i think sf will not change their config for me :(
15:44 < mnemoc> they sync the logs every 30 minutes!! :\
15:44 < rolla> yeah then you are hosed
15:44 < rolla> sorry
15:45 < mnemoc> :(
15:45 < mnemoc> 30 minutes!! who can debug with that?
15:47 < netrunner> mnemoc: put the scipt on another server and test it there.
15:47 < mnemoc> it works
15:47 < mnemoc> error.log.sc8-pr-web1:  File "/home/groups/e/ev/evilbk/cgi-bin/viewarch.cgi", line 61, in ?
15:47 < mnemoc> error.log.sc8-pr-web1:  File "/home/groups/e/ev/evilbk/offsite/viewarch-0.0.8/lib/viewarch.py", line 26
15:47 < mnemoc> error.log.sc8-pr-web1:[Fri Mar 19 06:25:42 2004] [error] [client 200.75.0.18] Premature end of script headers: /home/groups/e/ev
15:47 < mnemoc> /evilbk/cgi-bin/viewarch.cgi
15:48 < mnemoc> how the F* can i solve that?
15:48 < netrunner> mnemoc: maybe you forgot to print the header?
15:48 < netrunner> most common with that message :)
15:49 < mnemoc> snif snif snif
15:49 < netrunner> mnemoc: shall I test it on my server?
15:50 < mnemoc> it has to be abour permissions.... the whole sf runs a nfsnobody and i'm not member of it
15:51 < mnemoc> :'(
15:51 < mnemoc> i'll quit :(
15:51 < mnemoc> Aaaa!!
15:51 < mnemoc> *frustration*
15:52 < netrunner> mnemoc: not executable gives other message.
15:52 < mnemoc> uhm
15:54 < mnemoc> do u know python?
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15:56 < netrunner> hm, I once patched a python prog, but not much more.
15:56 < netrunner> I just read that viewarch needs tla ...
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15:57 < mnemoc> sure :)
15:57 < mnemoc> as viewcvs needs cvs
15:57 < mnemoc> try:
15:57 < mnemoc>         import tempfile
15:57 < mnemoc>         tempfile.mkstemp
15:57 < mnemoc> except (ImportError, AttributeError):
15:57 < mnemoc>         import vtempfile as tempfile
15:57 < mnemoc> this seems to be failing
15:58 < mnemoc> that van be because nfsnobody can't write at /tmp ?
15:58 < mnemoc> then i need to change somehow where it creates tmp s.th
16:00 < netrunner> mnemoc: hm, shouldn't /temp be 777 ? 
16:01 < mnemoc> maybe at webserver there is no /tmp and it's called /var/tmp .... i can't know
16:02 < laga_> maybe you can retrive some info from a phpsysinfo script?
16:03 < mnemoc> php' sessions (by default) point to /tmp, but i had to change it on .htacess to a direction of my own
16:04 < mnemoc> 5 minutes to next sync
16:04 * mnemoc hate this
16:05 < mnemoc> The default is taken from the environment variable TMPDIR; if this is not set, either /usr/tmp is used 
16:05 < mnemoc> from python doc
16:05 < mnemoc> i did a cgi to dump `env` and there is not TMPDIR set :|
16:07 < darix> mnemoc: <Location /path/to/cgi>SetEnv TMPDIR "/tmp"</Location>
16:07 < darix> try that
16:07 < mnemoc> at .htaccess?
16:07 < darix> hmm
16:07 < darix> global apache config
16:07 < mnemoc> sf.net :(
16:07 < darix> dunno if it works if set in .htaccess
16:08 < mnemoc> logs resyncing... i'll try that
16:13 < mnemoc> darix: it didn't failed, but env.cgi don't show it
16:13 < darix> .oO( there is not better hosting than localhost )o
16:14 < mnemoc> if you isp doesn't block 80/tcp
16:15 < darix> mnemoc: localhost means a full server under your control ;)
16:15 < mnemoc> =)
16:16 < mnemoc> i just SetEnv TMPDIR "/tmp" at .htaccess and phpinfo saw it
16:27 < mnemoc> i hate to wait :|
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16:30 < darix> mnemoc: nice its workig :D
16:30 < darix> working
16:30 < mnemoc> the env-var yes, but not the cgi :(
16:31 < mnemoc> can main config be blocking setenv to cgi-bin?
16:36 < darix> hmm 
16:36 < darix> mnemoc: doesnt have sf.net viewcvs installed?
16:36 < darix> if the installation isnt working
16:36 < darix> i would complain
16:37 < mnemoc> i'm tring to run viewarch :p
16:47 < mnemoc>     print '''Content-type: text/html'''
16:47 < mnemoc>         ^
16:47 < mnemoc> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
16:48 < mnemoc> anyone knows this crap called python?
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17:55 < mnemoc> www.rsync.org points to viagra :\
17:55 < mnemoc> this is worse than the Grace Community Church 
18:11 < mnemoc> any rsync 'expert' around?
18:26 < mnemoc> how can i tell rsync that 'my' copy i the good one and not the 'remote'?
18:54 < darix> mnemoc: you want to delete remote?
18:54 < darix> iirc its not possible
18:56 < mnemoc> :(
18:59 < darix> mnemoc: unison.
19:00 < mnemoc> @sf.net?
19:00 < darix> no
19:00 < darix> :D
19:00 < darix> gone
19:00 < mnemoc> wait
19:00 < mnemoc> rsync's excludes
19:00 < darix> mnemoc: see http://www.irssi.de./ 
19:00 < mnemoc> what?
19:00 < darix> there is an option for only fetching existing files :)
19:00 < darix> mentioned there
19:01 < mnemoc> uhm... c'est la vie
19:01 < mnemoc> thanks :p
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19:26 < cytrinox`> moin
19:34 < netrunner> argl now the submaster queue is as long that updates get submitted twice :/
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19:37 < blindy> hi hi and rehi
19:38 < netrunner> blindy: very funny
19:39 < blindy> yes. yes, it is
19:40 < blindy> but not as much as http://www.linux-magazin.de/Artikel/ausgabe/2002/10/rock/abb1.jpg
19:41 < mnemoc> what does it say bellow 2.0?
19:42 < blindy> planned: End 2002
19:43 < mnemoc> oh
19:43 < mnemoc> i understood something similar
19:44 * blindy continuing work on his Palm Cocktail Program
19:44 < blindy> cleaning up the code, to be axact
19:44 < blindy> exact
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19:59 < mnemoc> hpw can i create a fd on bash?
19:59 < mnemoc> #!/bin/sh
19:59 < mnemoc> exec 2>&1
19:59 < mnemoc> exec 1>&3
19:59 < mnemoc> exec 3> $file
19:59 < mnemoc> i know it's wrong but that's the idea
20:00 < mnemoc> sttout+stderr to stdout and to a file.... like 'tee'
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20:04 < netrunner> echo "foo" 2>&1 >out.txt
20:06 < mnemoc> but (1) i want to rederect the whole script, and (2) i want to have output :p
20:10 < blindy> bash script.sh | tee file.txt
20:10 < mnemoc> :)
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20:32 < netrunner> mnemoc: just had a gance at what might contain your answer http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/1998/debian-user-199807/msg03233.html
20:33 * mnemoc reading
20:35 < mnemoc> omg!
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20:39 < mnemoc> the last was what i wanted but i never thought about using tail -f & to do it :)
20:41 < netrunner> ;)
20:41 < |isis|> does anyone know where to find the bootdisks to install rock from floppy? i can't find references to them in any of the documentation - have only found roc-src-2.0.0
20:42 < |isis|> or can i just untar rock-src onto hard drive, chroot then begin installation?
20:44 < mnemoc> |isis|: inside the cd1
20:44 < |isis|> ahhhh cripes i don't have a burner
20:45 < |isis|> i can just extract from the iso then right?
20:45 < mnemoc> you can mount the iso :)
20:45 < |isis|> well i know that is possible i just haven't ever done it
20:45 < |isis|> lemme go google
20:47 < blindy> mount -o loop cd1.iso /mnt/
20:51 < |isis|> k thatls like here:  mount -o loop woody-i386-1.iso /mn
20:51 < |isis|> so
20:51 < |isis|> in gentoo i mkdir /mnt/getnoo , so mkdir /mnt/rock then mount iso to /mnt/rock would work i suppose
20:52 < |isis|> lemme go get iso
20:55 < |isis|> distrowatch has outdated links to isos - but rock repository has em - small 100 MB - so all isos are binary only?
20:55 < blindy> yes
20:56 < |isis|> so i just install iso then rebuild to my athlon-xp clfags
20:57 < |isis|> pefect! minimal is only 1 iso
20:57 < blindy> or you take an athlon-xp build, but I think noone has made some yet
20:57 < |isis|> no i rather make my own
20:57 < |isis|> interested to see if it is faster than gentoo
20:57 < blindy> ok, good luck then :)
20:57 < |isis|> it maybe - i think gentoo does extensive patching
20:58 < blindy> as do a lot of other distributions
20:58 < |isis|> tried mandy 10 this past week - liked to drove me up the wall 
20:58 < |isis|> u can't configure things how u like
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21:02 < blindy> all I ever used were SuSE, Debian and ROCK.
21:02 < |isis|> i started on mandy 7.0
21:02 < blindy> SuSE 7.1
21:02 < |isis|> but u know rpms - u never had the libs u want to build some new app
21:03 < |isis|> yast is open source, u jear?
21:03 < blindy> yes... yes, I remember
21:03 < |isis|> hear?
21:03 < blindy> YaST is Open Source? Since when?
21:03 < |isis|> yesterday it was announced i think
21:03 < |isis|> is on slashdot and osnews
21:03 < blindy> hmm... maybe I'll have a look at it
21:04 < blindy> haven't read /. in a few days
21:04 < blindy> been busy with learning how to program for PalmOS
21:04 < |isis|> kewl
21:05 < blindy> personally I think it's a pain to learn
21:05 < |isis|> like using rpms
21:05 < blindy> but once you've written some wrappers around its File Operation functions it becomes quite nice to use
21:07 < blindy> something like GetCocktailByID, IngredientsAvailable and CalculateAlcoholVolume is _much_ easier to use than dozens of Dm* functions ^_^
21:11 < |isis|> k the iso is finished - i have to check make menuconfig - not sure if i have loop dev support or not - i rebuild if not
21:13 < |isis|> k i have it is built in
21:13 < |isis|> so just mkdir /mnt/rock /mnt/rock/boot & /mnt/rock/home, mount my partitons there then mount the iso right?
21:14 < |isis|> well mount the iso to /mnt/rock
21:15 < blindy> that's an installable iso
21:16 < blindy> there is no system on it
21:16 < blindy> at leas not to mount
21:16 < blindy> but you can do the following:
21:17 < blindy> build mine from http://www.rocklinux.net/people/clifford/GEM-MINE/mine-0.15.tar.bz2
21:17 < blindy> then do:
21:17 < blindy> mkdir /mnt/rock
21:17 < blindy> mkdir /mnt/generic
21:17 < blindy> mount -o loop /path/to/minimal.iso /mnt/generic
21:18 < blindy> mine -i -v -R /mnt/rock /mnt/generic/2.0.0-*minimal*/pkgs/*gem
21:18 < |isis|> oh ok, but i can leave my boot and home partitions mounted on /mnt/rock right?
21:18 < blindy> then you have a system you can chroot into in /mnt/rock
21:18 < blindy> no
21:18 < blindy> not during install
21:18 < mnemoc> uhM?
21:18 < |isis|> k so just edit fstab later for those partitions
21:18 < blindy> after mine finished, you should mount them again
21:19 < blindy> mnemoc: hm?
21:19 < mnemoc> why cant she? mount other partitions in /mnt/rock before installing the packages?
21:20 < |isis|> well it makes no diff to me really
21:20 < blindy> mnemoc: I usually don't do so because: best case: mine might fail; worst case: files get overwritten
21:20 < blindy> I'm paranoid, remember?
21:20 < mnemoc> oh, i missed that those partions had data :)
21:21 < |isis|> no those partitions are blank
21:21 < blindy> ah, ok
21:21 < blindy> then there is no problem
21:22 < |isis|> well formatted reiserfs but empty
21:22 < |isis|> so then i need to download the mine thing too
21:23 < |isis|> gems are binaries aren't they?
21:23 < blindy> yes, you need it.
21:23 < mnemoc> prepare your partions tree (formated) at /mnt/rock, build mine locally, and use mine to install .gem files to your sandbox
21:23 < |isis|> k
21:23 < mnemoc> chroot and run stone
21:24 < |isis|> mine -i -v -R /mnt/rock /mnt/generic/2.0.0-*minimal*/pkgs/*gem
21:24 < |isis|> does that command untar mine? so i need full path
21:25 < mnemoc> 'mine' has to builded
21:25 < mnemoc> wget http://www.rocklinux.net/people/clifford/GEM-MINE/mine-0.15.tar.bz2; tar jxf mine-0.15.tar.bz2; cd mine-0.15; ./configure; make all; make install
21:26 < |isis|> what directory do i tar jxf mine too?
21:26 < |isis|> i mean mnt directory?
21:26 < mnemoc> i don't get it
21:27 < |isis|> or untar on /mnt/generic i guess
21:28 < |isis|> oh wiat u said build mine locally - nm
21:33 < |isis|> selector.c gives many errors on the make
21:33 < |isis|> i should boot knoppix and try from there
21:37 < |isis|> k i have printed out the directions - i go boot knoppix and try from there - thanks for your help
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21:57 < fake> ... ?
21:57 < fake> *shakes head*
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22:03 < |isis|> hey blindy - mine builds with no errors on knoppix
22:04 < |isis|> but how do i prefix it to install? can't install on knoppix ro file system
22:04 < mnemoc> mine -R /mnt/rock
22:05 < mnemoc> where your empty rw filesystem is mounted
22:05 < |isis|> the mine command won't work until it is installed tho right? have only make mine, not make install
22:06 < |isis|> i try it tho
22:06 < mnemoc> you can call it by hand
22:06 < mnemoc> /path/to/mine/mine -blah
22:06 < mnemoc> anyone knows python here? (*very* basic question)
22:07 < |isis|> hold on i edit Makefile
22:07 < mnemoc> how can i print the content of a string variable? :(
22:09 < blindy> |isis|: you don't need to install it. there should be an executable called `mine' in the src tree after you did `make'
22:09 < blindy> |isis|: you can call it directly from there
22:09 < blindy> another question:
22:10 < blindy> Can it be considered rude if your PalmOS app creates a Stack Overflow after it bubblesorted its databases?
22:12 < |isis|> kewl it works!
22:15 < blindy> ah, reducing the data size from >2kB to about 1.5kB helps :)
22:20 < |isis|> so now i can umount the file systems , the gems will be saved in the iso - then boot getnoo and chroot?
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22:34 < |isis|> k later
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22:40 < esdentem> hi all
22:45 < blindy> hi esdentem 
22:45 < blindy> esdentem: new to ROCK?
22:45 < esdentem> hi blindy 
22:45 * blindy runs
22:45 < esdentem> erm ... yes I am new
22:45 < esdentem> why are you running?
22:45 < blindy> oh... just in case
22:46 < esdentem> in case of what? ... is someone chaicing you?
22:46 < blindy> I thought maybe you would :P
22:46 < blindy> bwah, I'm falling asleep here >_<
22:46 < esdentem> why should I ... I do not even know you ...
22:46 < esdentem> I am new here ... as I said ...
22:47 -!- blindy is now known as blindcoder
22:47 < blindcoder> remember me now?
22:47 < esdentem> hmm ... no ... sorry ... why are you playing games on me ... 
22:47 < blindcoder> Note to self: don't try to make jokes when being half asleep
22:47 < esdentem> as I said I am new here ... and would like to know what rocklinux is ...
22:47 -!- blindcoder is now known as blindy
22:48 < esdentem> blindcoder: you are making jokes? ... I do not think they are funny ... :(
22:48 < esdentem> I am near to tears now ... you know
22:48 < blindy> yeah, I imagine you crying tears of joy in front of your keyboard :)
22:49 < esdentem> of joy? ... you are playing mad jokes with me ... how could I possibly feel happy? o_O
22:49 < blindy> hmm... we need an eggdrop here
22:49 < esdentem> eggdrop? o_O
22:49 < blindy> I need to make a decision
22:49 < blindy> but i have no coin here
22:50 < blindy> !decide continue_work_on_cocktail_bar_i18n go_to_bed
22:50 < blindy> damn, we really need one >_<
22:50 < esdentem> cat /dev/random > /dev/blindcoder/brain
22:50 < blindy> heh, noone would know any difference
22:51 < esdentem> cocktail_bar_i18n ??? what is that?
22:51 < blindy> Cocktail Bar is a PalmOS Aplication that I wrote over the last 3 days
22:51 < esdentem> blindy: so you have a builtin random generator?
22:51 < esdentem> been to long in hot water and now you have too much chaotic atomic movements in the head?
22:52 < blindy> you can enter ingredients, cocktails, and a n:m correlation between those two
22:52 < esdentem> hmm nice ... you have to show it to me some time
22:52 < blindy> then you can select which ingredients are available and you get a list of which cocktail you can mix
22:52 < esdentem> that is cool
22:52 < esdentem> was there no such app yet? o_O
22:52 < blindy> at the moment, it's hardcoded in german
22:52 < esdentem> that is not nice ... :/
22:53 < blindy> esdentem: I haven't found one on freshmeat, so I decided to learn coding for PalmOS :)
22:53 < esdentem> ROFL
22:53 < esdentem> google? 
22:53 < blindy> and right now I'm working at making a (well, compile-time, but still...) i18n for it using the gcc preprocessor ;)
22:53 < esdentem> hmm ... that is better then nothing ... 
22:54 < blindy> the source is currently 216 kB
22:54 < blindy> 2206 LoC
22:55 < blindy> hmm... there is an eggdrop in #gametome 
22:55 < blindy> brb
22:55 < blindy> 22:51 <@HappyPenguin> The roll of the dice picks: go_to_bed.
22:55 < blindy> HappyPenguin hath spoken.
22:58 < blindy> anyway, I need some sleep
22:58 < blindy> have to go shopping for some decent clothing tomorrow
22:58 < blindy> can't hold Linux Lessons in a T-Shirt
22:58 < blindy> my Boss'd kill me >_<
22:59 < blindy> good night
23:36 < fake> who can tell me - what are the 10 radical isotopes?
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