--- Log opened Don Mär 25 12:39:48 2004
12:39 * netrunner logging :)
12:45 < StefanG> :)
12:45 < darix> netrunner: there you can find why you should use $0 ;) https://monsters.rsn.uni-rostock.de/repositories/irssi/trunk/www.irssi.de/index.html
12:46 < netrunner> ah, ic, darix@irssi.org ;)
12:47 < darix> yeah ;)
12:55 < netrunner> YES. == 03/25/04 13:45:42 =[9]=> Finished building package nx-X11.
12:56 < darix> netrunner: was das?
12:57 < netrunner> darix: nx compression is a strong compression for the x protocol. see http://www.nomachine.com/
12:58 < darix> ah ic 
12:58 < darix> what will rocklinux do: stick with xfree86 4.3.x or switch?
13:04 < netrunner> probably update. 
13:04 < netrunner> but it's not with me to decide.
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13:36 < daja77> building on rh8 fails with a strange error
13:38 < laga> re
13:39 < daja77> ah damn, sed: unknown option -i grrr
13:42 < darix> daja77: replace it with perl -pi -e 
13:42 < darix> :)
13:42 < darix> sed -i is not portable enough (yet)
13:43 < daja77> bullshit
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14:10 < darix> daja77: ?
14:11 < daja77> i was talking about rocklinux build scripts, and replacing sed with perl is no option there
14:15 < darix> daja77: yes. but sed -i 
14:15 < darix> needs a quite recent sed ... 
14:17 < daja77> yeah that's why i just upgraded
14:18 < tfing> according to sed changelog, the -i was introduced in 2001
14:25 < darix> tfing: in which sed branch?:)
14:25 < tfing> just watched sed changelog
14:25 < darix> which sed?
14:26 < tfing> gnu sed
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14:40 < blindy> moin
14:47 < daja77> moin blindy
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14:54 < cytrinox`> moin
14:59 < rolla> re
14:59 < daja77> moin rolla
14:59 < rolla> hallo daja77 
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15:13 < MadTux> Good day.
15:13 < daja77> moin master mike
15:13 < laga> hi mike
15:13 < netrunner> cool. adapted stuff from xfree86 -> works in build, too :) 
15:14 < MadTux> Good day Daniel and Michael.
15:14 * blindy yawns a bit
15:14 < blindy> hi maddy
15:15 < MadTux> blindy-sam!
15:15 < rolla> MadTux: 
15:16 < MadTux> Master rolla, I'm honored to see you here.
15:28 < rolla> :)
15:38 < mnemoc> moin
15:39 < MadTux> Finally the old dog shows up
15:39 < mnemoc> :)
15:40 < MadTux> Good day Ale.
15:40 < mnemoc> now I am sick :p
15:40 < MadTux> sick wtf? u pathetic mortal
15:40 < mnemoc> good day don Miguel
15:40 < mnemoc> sth happens :\
15:40 < MadTux> too bad..
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15:42 < mnemoc> (i have your iso)
15:42 < MadTux> give me give me
15:43 < mnemoc> where? how? 
15:43 < MadTux> u have server to upload it to?
15:43 < mnemoc> nope
15:43 < mnemoc> you have
15:44 < MadTux> grrr ok i will give u access to a box
15:44 < mnemoc> i can rsync, sftp or ftp
15:44 < MadTux> how big is the iso?
15:44 < mnemoc> do u want pubkey?
15:44 < mnemoc> 257M    minimal-rev2607-pmmx_cd1.iso
15:44 < mnemoc> 108K    minimal-rev2607-pmmx_index.txt
15:44 < mnemoc> 4.0K    minimal-rev2607-pmmx.md5
15:45 < blindy> I'd need a Sparc ISO
15:45 < blindy> anyone has something available?
15:45 < mnemoc> rene was playing sparc iirc
15:46 < netrunner> I need Money, anyone has something available? ;)
15:46 < blindy> yeah, he promised me an iso "in a week"
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15:47 < blindy> that was something 4-6 weeks ago, and seeing that he simply hasn't the time I'm now cross-compiling myself
15:47 < blindy> (on a SS20 >_<)
15:47 < mnemoc> :|
15:48 < blindy> I just need a minimal installation
15:48 < blindy> an apache, perl and mysql and I'm happy
15:49 < MadTux> well build it yourself :)
15:49 < mnemoc> with a minimal u can build your own lamp('perl')
15:50 < mnemoc> my falvor of lamp is linux+apache2+mono+postgresql :p
15:50 < mnemoc> falvor*
15:50 < mnemoc> aaar... fLavor
15:51 < MadTux> we understand u don't worry
15:51 < mnemoc> :(
15:51 < MadTux> what?
15:52 < mnemoc> i nact write prperly
15:52 < mnemoc> :\
15:52 * mnemoc kicks mnemoc
15:52 < MadTux> yuhoo! 
15:52 * MadTux joins the party and hits mnemoc  with an iron chair
15:52 ::: mnemoc is now known as menomc
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16:00 < SMP> hmmm
16:00 < menomc> hi SMP
16:00 < SMP> netrunner: nice idea. and entirely over-engineered ;)
16:01 < SMP> hi mnemoc. LAMP with mono? mod_mono is flaky at best ..
16:01 < netrunner> SMP: which one?
16:01 < SMP> netrunner: patch automatism
16:01 < netrunner> :)
16:01 < netrunner> can the following work: CC=gcc -Wall -O2 -DINSTALL_DIR=\"$(INSTALL_DIR)\"
16:02 < SMP> usually not
16:02 < SMP> can't you use CFLAGS?
16:02 < netrunner> it always fails with `INSTALL_DIR' undeclared (first use in this function)
16:03 < netrunner> SMP: the prog does that. ... how is that with CFLAGS?
16:03 < SMP> is that a line from Makefile?
16:03 < netrunner> jup
16:03 < netrunner> the error is from the compile. the CC thing is from the makefile
16:04 < SMP> well CFLAGS doesn't chance anything in that case
16:05 < netrunner> it uses INSTALL_DIR within the .c files. should I just add a #define INSTALL_DIR /usr or something?
16:06 < SMP> no, it needs INSTALL_DIR to expand to a quoted C string, hence the \"\"
16:10 < SMP> hmm, I wrote a little testcase, it works as expected
16:10 * netrunner tries to squeeze euler into a package
16:12 < SMP> what does the commandline look like that make prints during build?
16:13 < netrunner> just seen. CC is defined in the makefile with this INSTALL_DIR thing. but that gets overridden by rock
16:14 < netrunner> so I have to add a CFLAGS="\"$root/$prefix\"" to the makeopt, no?
16:14 < SMP> ah, yeah.
16:14 < SMP> uhm
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16:15 < SMP> CFLAGS='-DINSTALL_DIR=\"$(INSTALL_DIR)\"'
16:15 < MadTux> crazy_horsie: .. blindy?
16:15 < crazy_horsie> MadTux, nope.
16:16 < crazy_horsie> Does anyone use pptpd ?
16:25 < StefanG> whats that?
16:26 < MadTux> StefanG: ever heard of vpn?
16:26 < SMP> a Point to Point Tunneling Protocol Daemon
16:26 < StefanG> heard yes :)
16:26 < crazy_horsie> yes
16:26 < MadTux> *g*
16:27 < StefanG> ahh, point to point tunneling, now its clear :)
16:27 < StefanG> never needed :)
16:27 < crazy_horsie> i'm having troubles with pptpd... it runs but do nothing;
16:30 < crazy_horsie> I need someone log's
16:31 < netrunner> it still shows only gcc-3 `glib-config --cflags` -c  mainloop.c  in the log. 
16:32 < crazy_horsie> netrunner, when u a running pptpd the log's show like this ?
16:33 < netrunner> s/\(.*\)/SMP: \1/
16:33 < SMP> does it use autoconf?
16:33 < SMP> I mean, an autoconf configure script
16:34 < crazy_horsie> it appears on /var/log/messengers or in /usr/log/pptpd.log ?
16:34 < SMP> crazy_horsie: different topic
16:35 < crazy_horsie> no, it doesn't . but i gues i have to re-make my network
16:35 < netrunner> SMP: nope. the main makefile says export INSTALL_DIR=/usr and then cd source && make
16:36 < netrunner> SMP: the makefile there says CC="gcc -O2 -Wall -INSTALL_DIR=\"$(INSTALL_DIR)\"  
16:36 < crazy_horsie> ok. :)
16:37 < netrunner> (it has only the makefiles, no configure)
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16:38 < holyolli> moin
16:38 < MadTux> aloholy!
16:38 < MadTux> query
16:39 < holyolli> MadTux!
16:45 < blindy> re
16:46 < holyolli> huhu blindy
16:47 < blindy> hi holyolli 
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16:57 < daja77> re
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17:41 < menomc> what 'osrt by version' means for `ls` ??
17:48 < netrunner> maybe osrt -> sort?
17:49 < menomc> that typo was mine
17:50 < netrunner> *g* I knew :)
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17:50 < menomc> filesystem versioning is new to me :)
17:51 < netrunner> | `-v'
17:51 < netrunner> | `--sort=version'
17:51 < netrunner> |      Sort by version name and number, lowest first.  It behaves like a
17:51 < netrunner> |      default sort, excepted that each sequence of decimal digits is
17:51 < netrunner> |      treated numerically as an index/version number.  (*Note More
17:51 < netrunner> |      details about version sort::.)
17:51 < netrunner> info ls :)
17:52 < menomc> d'oh :)
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17:55 < iceblox`> moin
17:55 < daja77> hi iceblox` 
17:58 < iceblox`> hm, de/en?
17:58 < StefanG> en
17:58 < daja77> en
17:58 < menomc> EN! :)
17:58 < iceblox`> kk :)
17:58 < daja77> menomc: sure, typomnemoc
17:59 < menomc> :)
17:59 < iceblox`> so, i tried to build 2.0.0 on my hppa box (hp 9000 712), and got a: /usr/bin/ld: /tmp/ccsspCOv.o: relocation R_PARISC_DPREL21L can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC
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18:00 < iceblox`> oh, got that while -> Building tools.cross/lib/fl_wrapper.so.
18:11 * StefanG has a problem installing rock :/
18:11 < StefanG> he wants the 2nd disk, but i cant eject the 1st one :/
18:12 < StefanG> hmm .. bbl
18:12 < daja77> argl
18:17 < menomc> StefanG: jump to another tty and call 'eject' :)
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18:46 < netrunner> have I mentioned that recreating the isos messes the pkg->cd# db?
18:46 < daja77> no you haven't
18:47 < netrunner> at least that is my guess. I recreated the isos and had to change them several times.
18:47 < daja77> hah, had this bug too
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19:14 < menomc> english question: i am standing, i am stood, i am standed, other?
19:15 < holyolli> stand, stood, stood iirc...
19:15 < laga> yes.
19:15 < menomc> thanks :)
19:18 < iceblox`> i am stood?
19:18 < laga> err. i'm standing, but the principle forms are stand, stood, stood :)
19:19 < iceblox`> ^_^
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19:26 < rxr> hi
19:27 < daja77> hi rxr
19:31 < daja77> rxr: is hppa cross build working in regression tester?
19:31 < netrunner> hi rxr
19:32 < daja77> netrunner: any easterhegg news i could have missed?
19:32 < netrunner> daja77: hm, clifford has registered and will be my guest, 2
19:33 < daja77> cool
19:33 < netrunner> daja77: you can help me with the rock-workshop!!!
19:33 < netrunner> :)
19:33 < netrunner> rxr: will you come too?
19:33 < daja77> netrunner: indeed, tell me what you need
19:33 < netrunner> daja77: yet everything ;)
19:34 < daja77> hehe
19:34 < rxr> netrunner: to where?
19:34 < rxr> hi btw
19:34 < rxr> easter hack s.th. -> no ...
19:34 < rxr> cu later
19:34 < netrunner> rxr: easterhegg (.de)
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20:49 < StefanG> next try
20:49 < StefanG> this time with atapi cd-rom :)
20:54 < netrunner> StefanG: if it doesnt giv you the cd, change to another tty and type "eject"
20:56 < StefanG> i coult type eject direktly in the same terminal, but it said not possible :/
20:56 < netrunner> do as you are told.
20:57 < StefanG> 2l8
21:16 < nookie> Einer von Euch mit Funktionen familiaer?
21:16 < nookie> And wants to help me with maths? :-)
21:17 < laga> <- just got 4 points in maths, 10 class :)
21:17 < nookie> Great.
21:17 < nookie> Enough points for me. :p
21:27 < rolla> yawn
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21:30 < nookie> Hey rolla. :-)
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21:32 < rolla> how is it going nookie 
21:44 < rxr> rehi
21:46 < nookie> rolla: All fine, thank you.
21:47 < nookie> Wb rxr.
21:47 < MadTux> hello rxr 
21:47 < rolla> :)
21:47 < nookie> Heya MadTux. :)
21:47 < MadTux> hi.
21:50 < menomc> re
21:51 < rxr> ok - night visit over - cu ;-)
21:51 < MadTux> wtf was that..
21:52 < menomc> cu rxr
21:54 < rolla> hallo MadTux 
21:55 * rolla just got a alpha server 4/200
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21:56 < menomc> MadTux: do u want the iso or not?
21:56 < MadTux> damn yes...
21:56 < menomc> then?
21:56 < MadTux> oh can u upload it to iso.rocklinux.de ? :)
21:56 < menomc> nope, i can't
21:56 < MadTux> why not?
21:57 < menomc> i don't have access
21:57 < MadTux> menomc: query
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22:08 < StefanG> how do i install grub on disk?
22:12 < cytrinox`> gn8
22:18 < rolla> StefanG: type grub
22:18 < rolla> the root (hd0,0) if your boot is on first paration of the first disk
22:19 < rolla> then setup (hd0)
22:19 < rolla> then quit
22:19 < rolla> make sure you edit the /boot/grub/grub.conf
22:19 < StefanG> it is a scsi disk
22:19 < rolla> doesn't matter
22:19 < StefanG> ok
22:19 < rolla> it is still called sh
22:19 < rolla> hd I mean
22:21 < rolla> StefanG: let me know if that works for you.
22:23 < StefanG> thx rolla, it worx :-)
22:23 < StefanG> ohh, not really .. wrong root-fs .. next try
22:23 < rolla> what paration is your /boot on?
22:24 < StefanG> something like /dev/scsi/host0/target4...
22:24 < StefanG> :)
22:24 < StefanG> have 2 check it befor :)
22:24 < rolla> okay so it is hd2
22:24 < StefanG> hd2?
22:25 < rolla> okay when you do the root(hd0,0) line
22:25 < rolla> the hd is the disk and partition number your /boot lives on
22:25 < StefanG> ok
22:25 < rolla> so if it is on the 3rd disk and the second partition it would be root(h2,2)
22:26 < StefanG> the kernel is ok, but the roof-fs is the problem
22:26 < rolla> you can use tab completion to see what disk names it knows
22:26 < StefanG> ahh
22:26 < rolla> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook.xml?part=1&chap=9#doc_chap2
22:27 < rolla> there that link should help you understand better
22:27 < rolla> grub is a really cool bootloader
22:27 < rolla> it lets you edit the boot options from the boot window incase you mess up you can fix it :)
22:28 < StefanG> problem is how do i find the correct dev-name of the root-partition?
22:28 < rolla> what line is failing?
22:28 < StefanG> kernel panic becaus he cant mount the root-fs
22:28 < rolla> the root or the setup line?
22:29 < StefanG> that was ok
22:29 < rolla> oh so you made the changes and rebooted ?
22:29 < StefanG> but if i want to boot it is not the same i sayd
22:29 < StefanG> not really
22:30 < StefanG> problem is that it is in an standard configuration
22:30 < MadTux> .oO( rolla the grub guru )
22:30 < StefanG> and i have to say him the options at boot
22:31 * menomc with lilo for ever :p
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22:32 < StefanG> hehe
22:32 < PeRpLeXeR> hi everybody
22:32 < rolla> Standard as in you did not edit the config before the reboot?
22:32 < PeRpLeXeR> anyone here who got Rock work on an IBM RS 6000 570F ?
22:33 < StefanG> hmmm .. dont know :)
22:33 < PeRpLeXeR> or in german
22:33 < rolla> read that link I sent you it should help
22:33 < StefanG> yes sir :)
22:33 < PeRpLeXeR> jemand hier der rock auf ner IBM rs 6000 570F zum laufen gebracht hat?
22:34 < rolla> sorry work calls
22:34 < iceblox`> hm, or anyone got it working on a hp 712? :>
22:34 < PeRpLeXeR> Hm I think the Rs 6000 uses 4 PPC processors so Rock PPC should generally work 
22:35 < PeRpLeXeR> but i tried it with gentoo PPC before and that does not work
22:37 < iceblox`> maybe it has power1 cpus? *has no clue about r6k*
22:37 < StefanG> ahh :)
22:37 < StefanG> now it works
22:38 < StefanG> was really the wrong boot partition :)
22:38 < StefanG> forgot the bus0 between host and target :)
22:53 < rolla> okay cool
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23:19 < netrunner> re
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23:44 < tfing> svn2.rocklinux-consulting.de is down ?
23:45 < daja77> re
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23:53 < tfing> hi daja77 
23:53 < tfing> netrunner: i worked on a laptop-mode package earlier in the train
23:53 < daja77> hi tfing
23:54 < daja77> <- back from party, trying to start thinking again
23:54 < tfing> netrunner: for the moment, it installs the different scripts included in the documentation
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