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00:13 * netrunner found a cool possibility for selling ebay stuff. search for "kübelböck porno" on ebay )
00:14 < StefanG> netrunner: 0 Artikel gefunden für kübelböck porno
00:19 < netrunner> ah, you have to search in the description, too ;)
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00:22 < menomc> there is any $undelete for reiserfs?
00:24 < tfing> /las-cl
00:24 < tfing> oups
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00:44 < daja77> n8 you all
00:52 < StefanG> someone who cannot write .. never heared about vögen
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01:05 < StefanG> does screen have another config file in rock? usually i have /etc/screenrc
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01:59 < StefanG> n8
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04:11 ::: Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux 2.0.0 released! http://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html
04:11 ::: Topic set by SMP  Mon Mar  8 01:33:41 2004
04:11 Users #rocklinux:
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04:11 ::: Channel #rocklinux created Sun Aug  3 22:11:35 2003
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08:40 < blindy> moin
08:47 < blindy> is it just me or is Terry's date screwed?
09:43 < alex_i> :~
09:43 < alex_i> rockbot: hi
09:43 < alex_i> !nuke Debian
09:44 < alex_i> How does bot work?
09:44 < alex_i> ,nuke GNOME
09:44 < alex_i> ~nuke KDE
09:44 < alex_i> bot?
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10:25 < netrunne1> moin
10:25 ::: You're now known as netrunner
10:25 < daja77> moin netrunner 
10:25 < netrunner> uh, that was fast ;)
10:25 < daja77> ;)
10:25 < netrunner> ah, my build finished :)
10:26 < daja77> mine too
10:26 < daja77> need a bootdisk too
10:26 < netrunner> 2244 builds total, 2174 completed fine, 70 with errors.
10:26 < netrunner>  -16 errs unfinished packages in my repo
10:27 < daja77> 1133 builds total, 1105 completed fine, 28 with errors.
10:27 < daja77> ah that fits
10:27 < daja77> you build with stage 9?
10:27 < netrunner> jup. I think I fixed some of them. hope I sent patches.
10:31 < alex_i> Is it possible to create a package that would replace or add some files to some other package?
10:31 < alex_i> Just like emacs-mule in Debian.
10:32 < daja77> we emacs mule stuff afaik
10:32 < daja77> we have even
10:32 < alex_i> i.e. What is the best way to do that (it's possible, I know)
10:32 < alex_i> I said it for examle.
10:32 < alex_i> I just wanna add some goodies to emacs.
10:33 < alex_i> Also, I wanna create some packages with my own config.
10:34 < alex_i> I wonder, how would it be possible to supply my custom config and default almost empty config with the package
10:34 < alex_i> so that my config would be separate from the package
10:34 < netrunner> you'll get shared files problems if you simply replace
10:34 < alex_i> without creating many extra packages
10:35 < alex_i> Is there a solution then?
10:35 * alex_i doesn't want to reinven the wheel
10:35 < alex_i> brb
10:37 < alex_i> k
10:53 < netrunner> alex_i: if you have a custom .conf for a package, just place it in your config dir as pkg_<pkgname>.conf and it will be read.
10:58 * netrunner giving cross build a quick shot
11:13 < netrunner> http://labs1.google.com/gvs.html
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11:32 * netrunner throwing in debian patch for 2.4.25 hppa
11:37 < netrunner> doesn't work. gcc broken :(
11:45 < netrunner> hm, hppa probably has no agp ;)
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12:00 < alex_i> How does that bot works?
12:00 < alex_i> !nuke everything
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12:02 < blindy> ok, looks like I finally have a suitable ID-generator for PALM ^^
12:03 < alex_i> !eat blindy
12:03 < blindy> HEY
12:03 < alex_i> How to use your bot?
12:04 < alex_i> rockbot
12:04 < blindy> it's not my bot
12:04 < netrunner> alex_i: http://waterworld.dyndns.org/~andreas/rock-images.html
12:04 < blindy> it's netrunner's
12:04 < alex_i> k
12:05 < alex_i> Thank you.
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12:18 < blindy> oh well, I should have know that the Palm OS Simulator sucks the moment I saw that it is Windows only
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12:24 < darix> cant you run it in wine?:)
12:26 < blindy> that's not the problem
12:26 < blindy> the PalmOS _EMU_lator (up to almOS Version 4) can do screenhots and is reasonably usable
12:27 < blindy> the PalmOS _SIMU_lator (starting at PalmOS V 5) can't do screenshots, has an ugly color and just a plain PITA
12:27 < blindy> and is Win---s only
12:37 < netrunner> blindy: wasn't it you who told me I just have to create a pkg_linux24.patch ...?
12:38 < netrunner> does it need to be in target/ or can it be in config/? it seems it gets not applied ...
12:38 < blindy> I don't know about .patch, just .conf
12:38 < netrunner> ah, ok.
12:38 < netrunner> so I var_append patchfiles it.
12:38 < blindy> yes
12:39 < netrunner> thx
12:39 * netrunner fighting with crossbuild for hppa
12:40 < daja77> ic
12:41 < netrunner> daja77: your fault ;)
12:42 < daja77> i know ^^
12:42 < daja77> <- evil
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12:49 < netrunner> hm, the $pkg.conf is only read from target/ ... what do you think shouldn't this be also read from config/ ? I mean there is where I do my customization ...
12:50 < daja77> that's what config.in is for, no?
12:52 < netrunner> yes. but the $pkg.conf is not read there. I have to put a $pkg.conf in target/ that ready my config/blubb/$pkg.conf
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12:58 < blindy> netrunner: well, config/ is overwritten frequently
12:58 < blindy> netrunner: and since you port to hppa you should put this in architecture/
12:58 < owl> moin
13:00 < owl> has someone drivers for a riva tnt (1) card - for under windows 2000 ?
13:00 < netrunner> blindy: but it's a kernelpatch.
13:01 < netrunner> owl: for windows you need drivers for the exact card. I could give you the ones for my erazor 2 that has rivatnt1, but wouldn't help with other cards.
13:01 < owl> hm. shit. :-( thx
13:02 < owl> then: need drivers for diamond viper v550
13:02 < blindy> owl: moin. www.treiber.de
13:03 < blindy> netrunner: hmm I think there's a naming convention for that
13:03 < blindy> $targetdir/pkg_$pkg.patch $targetdir/pkg_$pkg.patch.$arch
13:03 < blindy> either one should work
13:04 < blindy> so target/generic/pkg_linux24.patch.hppa maybe
13:05 < owl> hrm. found drivers for eNTe and win 98 :(
13:17 < netrunner> blindy: it works in target, but I wanted it in config, because it's config specific, not an extra target.
13:19 < netrunner> owl: http://www.video-drivers.com/drivers/39/39703.htm
13:22 < owl> thx. found the same after a cras-caused-by-empty-battery-of-notebook too
13:22 < darix> http://www.cs.tau.ac.il/students/shtuyot/prgrammer.htm
13:22 < owl> +h
13:24 < netrunner> daja77: *g*
13:25 < owl> off again. bye
13:33 < blindy> netrunner: but config is user-created
13:33 < blindy> netrunner: no user should add his patches to config/
13:36 < darix> netrunner: s/daj.*/darix/?:9
13:36 < netrunner> blindy: I want to. why not? if a user has a creative patch, that eg adds some logo or so?
13:36 < netrunner> darix: jup :)
13:37 < blindy> netrunner: then he puts it into package/${rep}/${pkg}/
13:37 < darix> netrunner: whats your stage?
13:37 < netrunner> blindy: nope, then it applies to all builds.
13:37 < netrunner> darix: with hp? 1 :)
13:42 < blindy> netrunner: that's what .hppa is for
13:43 < blindy> netrunner: can you please proof-read something for me?
13:43 < netrunner> blindy: sure
13:43 < blindy> http://scavenger.homeip.net/~blindcoder/cocktail_bar/de/license.php
13:44 < netrunner> blindy: why not gpl?
13:44 < blindy> netrunner: because gpl doesn't feed me
13:44 < netrunner> blindy: if you take money, you can't use points 1 and 2
13:45 < blindy> damn ;)
13:45 < blindy> already feared so
13:45 < netrunner> blindy: because you have a contract, "werksvertrag"
13:45 < blindy> hm... guess I heard that word back in school...
13:45 < blindy> brb, searching school books
13:45 < netrunner> blindy: use gpl, and sell precompiled versions taking money for the "act of compile"
13:48 < netrunner> blindy: or do it like the guys at nomachine.com, gpl the libraries and sell the frontend.
13:51 < blindy> netrunner: hmm I can see why #1 isn't ok, but why #2?
13:52 < blindy> Ok, in the US you have to make sure that the user isn't too stupid, but in Germany, too?
13:53 < netrunner> oh, misread. I thought you wanted to exclude wrong recipies
13:54 < netrunner> because when you supply the recipies, they are part of your product.
13:54 < netrunner> (hope you have thought of the copyrigths that may be on them ;)
13:57 < blindy> I accompany one recip of a Tequila Sunrise
13:57 < blindy> that one is a classic cocktail and widely available.
13:58 < netrunner> only one?
13:58 < blindy> yeah. I haven't come round to add more to the DB-Initializer
14:00 < netrunner> blindy: you come to easterhegg?
14:00 < blindy> netrunner: when is it?
14:00 < netrunner> christmas.
14:00 < netrunner> why do you think it is called EASTERhegg? ;)
14:00 < blindy> I know that it's around easter
14:00 < blindy> but when is easter?
14:00 < netrunner> 9.-12 April 2004
14:01 < blindy> guess I could
14:02 < blindy> information is available where?
14:05 < netrunner> www.easterhegg.de :) registration is meta-closed. you can reconstruct the link with a bit of phantasy ;)
14:06 < blindy> I don't have a lot of fantasy
14:07 < netrunner> you'll make it :9
14:07 < blindy> hmm... registration closed, so that means I won't come :)
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14:36 < laga> hi
14:37 < daja77> blindy: of course you could come, you know the guy on the orga ^^
14:39 < blindy> daja77: already talked with him, but on that weekend my dance-partner will celebrate her birthday
14:39 < daja77> ic
14:40 < daja77> have fun
14:41 < blindy> thanks, will do :)
14:42 < daja77> .oO (have to call her later, *makenotetonotforgetit*)
14:43 < blindy> you have her number?
14:44 < netrunner> blindy: want it? ;)
14:44 < rolla> re
14:45 < blindy> netrunner: it wolud be really strange if I wouldn't have her number, now would it?
14:45 < daja77> blindy: no not your girl
14:45 < netrunner> blindy: you asked ;)
14:45 < daja77> another her ^^
14:46 < daja77> <- sort of danced last night with her too
14:49 < blindy> daja77: flirting again, hm?
14:51 < daja77> hm yes
14:52 < daja77> was a great night indeed
14:52 < netrunner> daja77: no details ;)
14:53 < daja77> :p not what you think
14:58 < blindy> daja77: DETAILS! DETAILS! DETAILS! 
14:58 < blindy> :)
14:58 < daja77> hehe
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15:08 * netrunner just pulled another guy to rock. help him if he joins, he's quite competent. and has extravagant hw ;)
15:09 < netrunner> ah, now I remember why all my src.* dirs are empty when they failed. they are in tempfs ;)
15:21 < daja77> *ggg*
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15:39 < netrunner> hi bg :)
15:39 < _bg_> hi
15:40 < netrunner> _bg_: LANG=en 
15:40 < _bg_> do i have to be root to build rocklinux from the downloadable src .tbz2 
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15:40 < _bg_> net: whought so
15:40 < daja77> yep
15:40 < _bg_> net: thought so
15:40 < netrunner> bg: yup, because otherwise the files cannot be chown'd root 
15:41 < _bg_> libfakeroot anyone ;-)
15:41 < blindy> building ROCK as normal user is on the 2.1-TODO IIRC
15:42 < _bg_> the Conrig script is even more fragile then the kernel one
15:42 < _bg_> and i cant type
15:43 < netrunner> bad mixture for Config :)
15:45 < _bg_> how do i submit patches
15:45 < netrunner> https://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/smadm.cgi
15:46 < blindy> _bg_: either via mail to rock-devel@rocklinux.org with [PATCH] in the subject line or via the link netrunner posted :)
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15:46 < daja77> lol
15:47 < netrunner> bg: we use a tool called submaster that uses subversion in its backend for automatic patch creation and submission. http://www.rocklinux.org/submaster.html
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15:48 < _bg_> netrunner: do you want plain patches, one big, one per script, one per problem?
15:48 < tfing> one per issue
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15:49 < netrunner> the submaster thing has support for dependencies.
15:49 < netrunner> I mean the web frontend.
15:51 < _bg_> how outdated is "rock-src-2.0.0" when the dirs are from Mar 6?
15:51 < netrunner> _bg_: 2.0.1 has been branched. you should use svn if you want to go with HEAD
15:52 < _bg_> net: where do i get the static svn client again?
15:52 < netrunner> _bg_: but there were only a few applied the last weeks. there's a long queue on submaster
15:53 < netrunner> http://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/clients/
15:54 < netrunner> hm, they are quite old, hope they'll do ;)
15:56 < darix> netrunner: quite outdated ...
15:56 < _bg_> how do i checkout 2.0.1
15:57 < _bg_> the svn://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-linux/trunk
15:57 < _bg_> s/^/is /
15:57 < _bg_> current
15:59 < netrunner> svn co svn://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-linux/trunk rock-linux
15:59 < netrunner> _bg_: trunk is the HEAD
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16:00 < _bg_> net: i don't know svn (yet)
16:01 < _bg_> packages are ordered my maintainer?
16:02 < _bg_> and maybe reiserfs would have been the better choice for the filesystem to checkout rock-linux
16:04 < netrunner> _bg_: the maintainers have their repos in package/<maintainerid> ... and there are generic repos like package/x11 or package/base ...
16:05 < _bg_> how long does building base take on amd64/3200+ (2GHz), 1G Ram, tmpfs?
16:06 < blindy> a few days
16:06 < _bg_> and building minmal?
16:06 < blindy> a few hours :)
16:06 < blindy> minimal takes around 30 hours on my P4 1.8 GHz, 512MB Rambus, no tmpfs
16:08 < _bg_> so that's nothing i can do quickly :-(
16:08 < _bg_> netrunner: now I've 2.1.0
16:08 < netrunner> oh? ;)
16:09 < blindy> yes, trunk is 2.1 now
16:10 < _bg_> can i build base for amd64 as a crosscompile in one run (e.g. no manual intervention) on like this weekend
16:10 < _bg_> assuming i've a dual opteron 240 (1.4GHz) with 2GB ram?
16:10 < _bg_> only one ide disk?
16:10 < _bg_> with 50GB of available disk space?
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16:11 < blindy> should work
16:11 < _bg_> or has anyone boot isos for amd64 i could download and install?
16:12 < blindy> although you can only crosscompile a bare-bones system
16:12 * netrunner needs about 6G for building. 
16:12 < _bg_> netrunner: so 20g should be plenty (LVM you know ;-))
16:12 * netrunner -> away
16:13 < netrunner> _bg_: yup. ... enable tempfs, that speeds up things a lot. (leave it at 800M, that's ok)
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16:16 < _bg_> net: yes, for my own box i changed it to 500M (only one 1g)
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16:19 < _bg_> no amd64 isos --- just a cross-compile than
16:32 < _bg_> how has the rock-handbook been generated? or how do i fix formating issues (or issues i think are formating issues)
16:32 < _bg_> can't speak for the content (yet)
16:32 < tfing> it's in latex
16:33 < tfing> the sources are in a svn repository here :
16:33 < tfing> http://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-handbook/
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16:34 < darix> 16:29:12 <@Phoner> rotfl :) http://bbspot.com/News/2003/02/ati_ascii.html
16:34 < darix> 16:29:12 <@Phoner> In a joint announcement today the Nethack Devteam announced a new version of the popular text based game, version 3.4.1, but the big announcement came from ATI which announced a new video card, the ATI Radeon 9500 ASC, optimized for ASCII gaming.
16:34 < _bg_> tfing: so it's more likely a latex2html issue
16:34 < tfing> _bg_: maybe
16:35 < _bg_> should i build "generic" or "boot-, install-..." (for my opteron that is running tsl20 right now (aka ai32))
16:37 < _bg_> net: how do you use the cluster build on your smp box?
16:46 < _bg_> how is package management handled?
16:46 < _bg_> (newbee question after newbee question)
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17:13 < _bg_> anyone got a copy of dietlibc-0.25-rxr.tar.bz2?
17:13 < _bg_> gsmp.tfh-berlin.de seams to be down
17:15 < blindy> http://scavenger.homeip.net/~blindcoder/dietlibc-0.25-rxr.tar.bz2
17:17 < _bg_> blindy: thanks. do you happen to have grep-2.5.1 aswell?
17:17 < _bg_> and services-20030730.txt has a bad checksum :-(
17:18 < mnemoc> _bg_: bad checksum on services.txt means an update
17:18 < mnemoc> (moin!)
17:19 < _bg_> mnemoc: svn up, rm $file, ./script/Download -cfg ... did not help
17:19 < _bg_> still checksum error
17:20 < mnemoc> sure, the checksum applies to 20030730 version
17:20 < blindy> http://scavenger.homeip.net/~blindcoder/grep-2.5.1.tar.bz2
17:20 < mnemoc> current file must be newer
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17:22 < _bg_> blindy: thanks again
17:22 < mnemoc> http://www.graffiti.com/services -> Wed Feb 11 02:56:39 2004 UTC
17:23 < blindy> looks like for a long time noone downloaded from original location :)
17:23 < _bg_> mnemoc: i'm running head at revision 2609.
17:24 < mnemoc> _bg_ i'll send an update patch in some minutes
17:24 < mnemoc> blindy: ACK :)
17:25 < mnemoc> btw, _bg_ we aren't you using our mirrors?
17:25 < mnemoc> s/we/why/
17:26 < _bg_> mnemoc: just checked out rock (svn) and started to build according to the Documentation/BUILD file
17:26 < _bg_> no mentioning of mirror there
17:27 < mnemoc> rm -rf src/*
17:27 < mnemoc> ./scripts/Download -cfg foo -required
17:27 < mnemoc> oh... rm download/MIRROR too
17:28 < _bg_>  rm download/Mirror ?
17:28 < mnemoc> that file contains info about the choosen mirror
17:32 < blindy> echo none >download/Mirror to disable use of a mirror
17:33 < mnemoc> uhm... i want him to USE mirrors
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17:34 < mnemoc> btw, current Download script tries automaticly original location if file is not at mirrors, the mirror=none is senseless
17:34 < blindy> ah yes, right
17:34 < blindy> didn't think about that
17:34 < mnemoc> :)
17:34 < blindy> I remember that that saved me some work at early LVP :)
17:34 < mnemoc> it took me 2 month to get that patch applied :p 
17:35 < _bg_> how do i create my own mirror
17:35 < _bg_> and how much space doesit require?
17:36 < blindy> hmm... around... 6-8 GB
17:36 < blindy> you have to download all files
17:36 < mnemoc> you do a Download -all, publish it via anon http or ftp and mail clifford@clifford.at about it
17:36 < blindy> and then: echo "file:///path/to/download/" >download/Mirror
17:36 < blindy> mnemoc: hehe :)
17:36 < mnemoc> :p
17:37 < _bg_> i'd like to run it via cron. it would be something like
17:37 < _bg_> svn up
17:37 < _bg_> Download -all
17:37 < _bg_> wouldn't it?
17:37 < mnemoc> Download -notimeout -all
17:38 < mnemoc> but mirrors are synced using rsync :)
17:38 < mnemoc> if you want to be a official rock-mirror :p
17:39 < mnemoc> for personal use `svn up; Download -notimeout -all` is fine
17:39 < mnemoc> your first Download -all do it using mirror, then do what blindy said to set it to 'none'
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17:52 < _bg_> == 18:24:15 =[1]=> Building base/linux24 [2.4.25 2.1.0-DEV].
17:52 < _bg_> -> Reading package configuration from package directory.
17:52 < _bg_> -> Preparing build in src.linux24.1080321855.8843.3355672145
17:52 < _bg_> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/1-linux24.out
17:52 < _bg_> !> x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu-ld: warning: i386:x86-64 archit ..
17:52 < _bg_> !> make[2]: *** [bvmlinux] Segmentation fault
17:52 < _bg_> !> make[2]: *** Deleting file `bvmlinux'
17:52 < _bg_> !> make[2]: Leaving directory `/rock/rock-linux/src.linux24 ..
17:52 < _bg_> !> make[1]: *** [compressed/bvmlinux] Error 2
17:52 < _bg_> !> make[1]: Leaving directory `/rock/rock-linux/src.linux24 ..
17:52 < _bg_> !> make: *** [bzImage] Error 2
17:52 < _bg_> -> $root/var/adm/logs/1-linux24.out -> 1-linux24.err
17:52 < _bg_> == 03/26/04 18:34:29 =[1]=> Aborted building package linux24.
17:52 < _bg_> !> Creation of binary package isn't possible,
17:52 < _bg_> !> because the package was not successfully
17:52 < _bg_> !> built in (at least) the current stage.
17:54 < mnemoc> x86_64? is the port complete?
17:56 < mnemoc> anyone knows any tool to convert pdf to multipage pdf?
17:57 < _bg_> mnemoc: well, should i stop this compile and go for i586?
17:57 < daja77> pdf2ps + psnup perhaps
17:59 < _bg_> the iiff.org hat something like that to download the patents from the european patent office. iirc it used ps2ps to merge x single sheets of pdf into one pdf with x sheets
17:59 < _bg_> s/iiff/ffii/
18:03 < mnemoc> daja77: does it loose too much quality?
18:04 < tfing> pdftops is usually better than pdf2ps
18:04 < daja77> ack
18:05 < mnemoc> psnup is not on rock :\
18:06 < mnemoc> pdftops neither :(
18:06 < mnemoc> Server ist momentan nicht verfügbar
18:07 < daja77> yeah + that the download urls are all not working
18:08 * mnemoc looking for the acrobat 6.0 cd
18:08 < daja77> hmm have pdftops on rock here
18:09 < mnemoc> # echo package/*/pdftops
18:09 < mnemoc> package/*/pdftopsç
18:09 < cytrinox`> moin
18:09 < daja77> part of the xpdf package
18:10 < daja77> or as a cups filter ^^
18:12 < daja77> an psnup is in psutils package
18:16 < mnemoc> uhm :) ok 
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18:39 < _bg_> ok, my compile for amd64 failed
18:40 * mnemoc still wonders if x86_64 port is ready for tests
18:40 < _bg_> doesn't look like:
18:40 < _bg_> Creating 2nd stage filesystem:
18:40 < _bg_> -> Extracting the packages archives.
18:40 < _bg_> .
18:40 < _bg_> .
18:40 < _bg_> .
18:40 < fake> mnemoc: i once wrote a script for that
18:41 < _bg_> -> Remove the stuff we don't need ...
18:41 < _bg_> -> Installing some terminfo databases ...
18:41 < _bg_> tar (child): ../../pkgs/ncurses.tar.bz2: Cannot open: No such file or directory
18:41 < _bg_> tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now
18:41 < _bg_> tar: Child returned status 2
18:41 < fake> mnemoc: gs can do that with the pdf in/output 
18:41 < daja77> so ncurses was not built or downloaded?
18:42 < _bg_> yes
18:42 < daja77> not built or not downloaded?
18:42 < _bg_> of, the server is too fast
18:42 < _bg_> downloaded
18:42 < mnemoc> daja77: see the previous lines, that error wasn't while building
18:42 < daja77> so download it
18:43 < mnemoc> pkgs/ncurses.tar.bz2 <--- that's not the ncurses' source
18:43 < daja77> mnemoc: i know
18:44 < mnemoc> daja77: :)
18:45 < mnemoc> _bg_ can you ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg $thatbuild please
18:45 < _bg_> you need a script to check the build system:
18:45 < _bg_> ./scripts/Create-ErrList: ./scripts/Check-Deps-3: /usr/bin/gawk: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
18:46 < mnemoc> ehm...
18:46 < _bg_> root@alchemist /rock/rock-linux# which gawk
18:46 < _bg_>  /bin/gawk
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18:47 < daja77> yep someone pointed me to that hardcoded paths in our scripts yesterday ...
18:50 < _bg_> what do i do with the result?
18:50 < daja77> pasting
18:50 < _bg_> Error logs from default-2.1.0-DEV-x86-cross-bootdisk-expert:
18:50 < _bg_>  [0]  52 base/dietlibc                   [1]   1 base/linux24
18:50 < _bg_>  [1]  40 base/glibc23                    [1]  39 base/binutils
18:50 < _bg_>  [1]  38 base/gcc3                       [1]   0 base/readline
18:50 < _bg_>  [1]   8 base/m4                         [1]   0 base/time
18:50 < _bg_>  [1]  28 base/gettext                    [1]   4 base/zlib
18:50 < _bg_>  [1]   0 base/kiss                       [1]  28 base/bash
18:50 < _bg_>  [1]  27 base/coreutils                  [1]  26 base/findutils
18:51 < _bg_>  [1]  25 base/mktemp                     [1]  24 base/diffutils
18:51 < _bg_>  [1]  19 base/patch                      [1]  22 base/make
18:51 < _bg_>  [1]  21 base/grep                       [1]  20 base/sed
18:51 < _bg_>  [1]   1 base/gzip                       [1]  17 base/tar
18:51 < _bg_>  [1]   3 base/flex                       [1]   4 base/texinfo
18:51 < _bg_>  [1]   2 base/bison                      [1]   0 base/curl
18:51 < _bg_>  [1]   0 base/mine                       [1]   0 base/sysvinit
18:51 < _bg_>  [1]   2 base/util-linux                 [1]   0 base/e2fsprogs
18:51 < _bg_>  [1]   2 base/net-tools                  [1]   0 base/wireless-tools
18:51 < _bg_>  [1]   0 base/module-init-tools          [1]   0 base/modutils
18:51 < _bg_>  [1]   0 base/iproute2                   [1]   0 base/sysfiles
18:51 < _bg_> 51 builds total, 15 completed fine, 36 with errors.
18:51 < daja77> oh my
18:52 < daja77> k. guess most of them are broken cos dietlibc adn glibc failed
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18:57 * mnemoc votes for a broken 0-gcc/binutils :)
18:57 < daja77> could be true
18:57 < _bg_> how to start over?
18:59 < mnemoc> ./scripts/Cleanup -full will cleaup your tree
18:59 < mnemoc> src.* and build/*
19:00 < _bg_> but keep the DLed files?
19:00 < mnemoc> yep
19:00 < iceblox> moin
19:00 < _bg_> oh, milions of:
19:00 < _bg_> WARNING: Non-Standard Perm at target/./server/.svn
19:01 < mnemoc> after that set 'abort-on-errors' and 'retry-failed' on that Config
19:01 < mnemoc> _bg_ did you checkout as root?
19:01 < _bg_> yes, but with umask 0077
19:02 < mnemoc> don't worry about that, only root will can enter src.* and build/* dirs
19:03 < _bg_> Trustix uses 0077 as default umask.
19:12 < _bg_> mnemoc: can't find retyr-failed
19:15 < mnemoc> just below abort-on-error :)
19:15 < mnemoc> "Retry building broken packages"
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19:35 < rolla> re
20:03 < _bg_> failed again:
20:03 < _bg_> == 20:16:46 =[1]=> Building base/linux24 [2.4.25 2.1.0-DEV].
20:03 < _bg_> -> Reading package configuration from package directory.
20:03 < _bg_> -> Preparing build in src.linux24.1080328605.23148.904473245
20:03 < _bg_> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/1-linux24.out
20:03 < _bg_> !> x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu-ld: warning: i386:x86-64 archit ..
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20:07 < netrunner> re
20:07 < netrunner> _bg_: I see you're having fun ;)
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20:07 < netrunner> _bg_: have you selected to cross compile? or are you on an 64 bit machine already?
20:13 < _bg_> i've selected crosscompile, as i'm on ai32 now (i586 actually)
20:14 < owl> remoin
20:16 < netrunner> hm. how can that work if it executes the binaries it buids?
20:17 < netrunner> I mean, that's the sense of crosscompiling but I cannot see how it could work.
20:18 < netrunner> _bg_: and ... some packages need more diskspace than 500M (had that)
20:19 < _bg_> net: i'm building on the opteron, with 2g of ram and 800mb of tmpfs
20:20 < netrunner> ah ok. you wrote about 500 before
20:28 < _bg_> x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu-ld -m elf_i386 -Ttext 0x100000  -o bvmlinux head.o misc
20:28 < _bg_> .o piggy.o
20:28 < _bg_> x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu-ld: warning: i386:x86-64 architecture of input file `mi
20:28 < _bg_> sc.o' is incompatible with i386 output
20:29 < _bg_> shouldnt it be -m elf_x86_64 orso
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20:47 < MadTux> Greetings.
20:48 < SkH> re
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21:30 < owl> how  can i set under x, which language i want to use  under  the console in e.g. xterm_
21:44 < daja77> export LANG=
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22:03 < daja77> wb master mike
22:04 < MadTux> thx daja77 
22:04 < MadTux> ping mnemoc 
22:04 < mnemoc> pong
22:05 < MadTux> #evilbk please
22:05 * mnemoc kicks MadTux 
22:05 < MadTux> mira *G* lo siento no lo pude evitar
22:06 < daja77> anyone understood that problem on that mail on rock-users?
22:07 < daja77> -s
22:07 < netrunner> daja77: not root?
22:08 < daja77> no that jukebox, flash thingie
22:08 < daja77> i read it over and over again, i just don't get him
22:09 < daja77> that guy said he wasn't root, so i guess this is answered now
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22:18 < netrunner> huh, I think the ml is keeping things from me. I even didn't get my own mail ...
22:19 < mnemoc> :)
22:19 < daja77> hehe the evil netrunner filter
22:19 < daja77> netrunner: you shouldn't spam
22:19 * daja77 hides
22:20 < MadTux> .oO(I read your email ;-)
22:20 < netrunner> daja77: wait, ... echo >>.procmailrc <<EOF\n:0:\n* ^X-Spam-Status: Yes\n |mail daja77@rocklinux.net
22:21 < netrunner> EOF
22:21 < mnemoc> LOL
22:21 < daja77> *shrug* wron mail address ^^
22:21 < daja77> wrong even
22:22 < netrunner> was a warn shot, not a head shot :)
22:22 < daja77> *ggg*
22:23 < daja77> btw the evil netrunner filter will not be disabled by adding me :p
22:23 * netrunner adding exim header rewrite rule
22:25 < daja77> *ggg*
22:26 < daja77> netrunner: arte! ;)
22:30 < mnemoc> employer/employee -> extender/extendee?
22:31 < daja77> O_o
22:32 < mnemoc> the one who is extended? has a name?
22:32 < iceblox> extension? ;)
22:32 < daja77> what do you mean by extended
22:32 < iceblox> .oO(employsion?)=
22:33 < mnemoc> something that extends the functionality of something
22:34 < netrunner> extender?
22:34 < netrunner> viagra?
22:34 < mnemoc> well....
22:35 < netrunner> at least http://dict.leo.org/?search=extender exists
22:35 < mnemoc> employer/employee -> extender/(?)
22:36 < mnemoc> extendee sounds cool... but it doesn't exist for dictionary.com
22:43 < netrunner> extender/extender
22:43 < mnemoc> uhm?
22:44 < mnemoc> who extends is the extender, who is extended is an extender too?
22:44 < netrunner> hm, no
22:44 < daja77> is there a semantics for to extend someone?
22:44 * netrunner is quite slow in thinking
22:44 < mnemoc> husband/wife :p
22:44 < netrunner> "the one being extended"
22:44 < mnemoc> one word
22:45 < daja77> you extend your wife? how?
22:45 < netrunner> extendee seems to exist, says google: http://bellingersdogtraining.com/extendee_leash.html first hit :)
22:46 < netrunner> and that is something that gets extended.
22:46 < mnemoc> oh... i didn't ask google
22:47 < netrunner> tststs
22:48 * mnemoc wonder about the plural form of 'extendee'
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22:54 < netrunner> extendees
22:55 < mnemoc> sure?
22:56 < _bg_> what are you up to?
22:57 < netrunner> no
22:58 < netrunner> does anybody know when rxr plans to accept all the patches that linger around in submaster?
22:58 < mnemoc> no idea
23:13 * netrunner trying to install plone trying to install zope trying to update python ...
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