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--- Log opened Mon Mär 29 00:00:08 2004 00:17 < cchamilt_> OK, I think I have finished all of generic except for mono-debugger 00:34 ::: hannes_!~hannes@213.146.112.177 has quit: "leaving" 00:36 ::: bluefire!bluefire@p508178BC.dip.t-dialin.net has quit: "leaving" 00:49 < cchamilt_> i be going now too 00:50 ::: A-Tui!~aitor@cable74a018.usuarios.retecal.es has joined: #rocklinux 00:51 < cchamilt_> Anybody wants a finished (excluding mono-debugger) pentium-mmx generic 2.0.1 let me know. 00:55 ::: A-Tui!~aitor@cable74a018.usuarios.retecal.es has quit: "Satanás, el infierno es demasiado dulce!" 00:55 ::: A-Tui!~aitor@cable74a018.usuarios.retecal.es has joined: #rocklinux 00:57 ::: t3k|mobile!~k3t@pD9E8EBBF.dip.t-dialin.net has quit: Remote closed the connection 00:58 ::: A-Tui!~aitor@cable74a018.usuarios.retecal.es has quit: Client Quit 00:58 ::: A-Tui!~aitor@cable74a018.usuarios.retecal.es has joined: #rocklinux 01:07 ::: kasc_!~kasc@dsl-213-023-067-072.arcor-ip.net has joined: #rocklinux 01:19 ::: kasc!~kasc@dsl-213-023-060-142.arcor-ip.net has quit: Connection timed out 01:19 ::: kasc_ is now known as kasc 01:57 ::: tfing_!~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-1-191.w193-253.abo.wanadoo.fr has joined: #rocklinux 02:13 ::: elon!~moep2k@zwelf.in-dsl.de has quit: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 02:15 ::: tfing!~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-2-181.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr has quit: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 02:15 ::: tfing_ is now known as tfing 03:05 ::: A-Tui!~aitor@cable74a018.usuarios.retecal.es has quit: "Satanás, el infierno es demasiado dulce!" 04:03 ::: drunky!~blindcode@pD9E4F40A.dip.t-dialin.net has joined: #rocklinux 04:03 ::: blindy!~blindcode@pD9E4F0F0.dip.t-dialin.net has quit: Nick collision from services. 04:03 ::: drunky is now known as blindy 04:06 ::: k3t_!k3t@pD9E8EBBF.dip.t-dialin.net has quit: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) 04:11 ::: k3t_!k3t@pD9E8E9E4.dip.t-dialin.net has joined: #rocklinux 05:04 ::: netrunne1!~andreas@p5080204D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de has joined: #rocklinux 05:04 ::: Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux 2.0.0 released! https://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html 05:04 ::: Topic set by SMP Mon Mar 8 01:33:41 2004 05:04 Users #rocklinux: 05:04 [ _bg_ ] [ daja77 ] [ ija ] [ Nebukadneza`] [ rxr ] [ togg] 05:04 [ Aard ] [ darix ] [ k3t_ ] [ netcrow ] [ SMP ] [ true] 05:04 [ blindy ] [ dsoul ] [ kasc ] [ netrunne1 ] [ snyke ] 05:04 [ cchamilt_] [ fake ] [ laga__ ] [ netrunner ] [ StefanG] 05:04 [ clifford ] [ Freak ] [ mistik1] [ owl ] [ tfing ] 05:04 [ cytrinox ] [ iceblox] [ mnemoc ] [ rolla ] [ th ] 05:04 ::: Irssi: #rocklinux: 32 nicks (@/0 +/0 -/0) 05:04 ::: Channel #rocklinux created Sun Aug 3 22:11:35 2003 05:04 ::: [freenode-info] help freenode weed out clonebots, please register your IRC nick and auto-identify: https://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 05:04 ::: Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 6 secs 05:13 ::: Netsplit saberhagen.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: owl, clifford, mistik1 05:14 ::: Netsplit over, joins: mistik1, owl, clifford 05:21 ::: netrunner!~andreas@p50802A59.dip0.t-ipconnect.de has quit: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 05:35 ::: cytrinox!~dj-nail2@p213.54.184.190.tisdip.tiscali.de has quit: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) 05:47 ::: cytrinox!~dj-nail2@p213.54.155.72.tisdip.tiscali.de has joined: #rocklinux 06:40 ::: togg!~togg@pD9E5BC76.dip.t-dialin.net has quit: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) 06:45 ::: togg!~togg@pD9E5B043.dip.t-dialin.net has joined: #rocklinux 06:50 ::: You're now known as netrunner 06:50 < netrunner> moin 06:54 * netrunner dreamed tonight that all sm patches got applied. 09:07 < daja77> *ggg* 09:08 ::: BoS!~root@dialin-212-144-081-036.arcor-ip.net has joined: #rocklinux 09:37 ::: rolla!maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-237.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net has quit: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) 09:37 ::: rolla!maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-237.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net has joined: #rocklinux 09:41 ::: togg!~togg@pD9E5B043.dip.t-dialin.net has quit: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) 09:43 ::: togg!~togg@pD9E5B043.dip.t-dialin.net has joined: #rocklinux 10:19 ::: Darkembrace!~NOS@pD950F34F.dip.t-dialin.net has joined: #rocklinux 10:20 < Darkembrace> hi there ;) 10:20 < Darkembrace> i need some help again ... 10:20 < netrunner> the bowl of petunias ... 10:23 < Darkembrace> i got an actual built optimized for p3 and now it seems that /usr/include/gnu/stubs.h is missing 10:23 < Darkembrace> it means i can't use make ...and thats veeeery bad 10:24 < Darkembrace> anyone got a solutiuon for this prob? 10:25 < daja77> on the installed system? 10:25 < daja77> or on build environment 10:25 < Darkembrace> it's already installed 10:26 < Darkembrace> i can't use make or anything else needed for building a package 10:26 < Darkembrace> even ./scriupts/Config gives an error back 10:26 < Darkembrace> sorry for the bad english ...but this night was very short 10:27 < daja77> should be /usr/include/stubs.h 10:27 < Darkembrace> no stubs.h there :( 10:28 < daja77> seems to be a build with a broken glibc 10:28 < daja77> what isos are that, i only know we had this long time ago 10:29 < Darkembrace> hmm i don't think so, cause fake built it ... but he is in bed :( 10:29 < daja77> *ggg* 10:29 < daja77> kick him out 10:29 * daja77 hides 10:30 < Darkembrace> have you ever ttried to wake him up? *g* 10:30 < daja77> uhm yes 10:30 < daja77> open the windows and let the sun shine in *ggg* 10:30 < Darkembrace> how long did id take? 10:30 < Darkembrace> muahaha thats evil 10:31 < daja77> dunno it was easier than to wake up clifford 10:31 < daja77> <- evil 10:31 < Darkembrace> can i get a compiled glibc-22 from somewhere? 10:31 < daja77> 2.2? O_o 10:31 < Darkembrace> i read somewhere that subs belongs to glibc 22 10:32 < Darkembrace> it was the first hit on google ... 10:32 < daja77> to glibc23 as well 10:33 < Darkembrace> fine 10:34 < daja77> have no compiled glibc for p3 10:35 < Darkembrace> hmmmm seems that i have to wait till fake wakes up 10:35 < Darkembrace> perhaps shutting down his box will wake him up *eg* 10:35 < daja77> hehe you could shorten your timeout ... 10:36 < daja77> and btw i have nothing to do with this matter ;) 10:37 < Darkembrace> *g* 10:40 ::: tfing_!~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-1-191.w193-253.abo.wanadoo.fr has joined: #rocklinux 10:42 ::: BoS!~root@dialin-212-144-081-036.arcor-ip.net has quit: "leaving" 10:45 ::: tfing!~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-1-191.w193-253.abo.wanadoo.fr has quit: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) 10:45 ::: tfing_ is now known as tfing 10:54 * netrunner has a p3 build. at home on cd. 10:56 < Darkembrace> i think i'll try a cross bild on my other machine 10:58 ::: Netsplit saberhagen.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: tfing, togg, StefanG 10:58 ::: Netsplit over, joins: tfing, togg, StefanG 13:05 < cytrinox> moin 13:13 ::: BoS!~root@dialin-145-254-169-049.arcor-ip.net has joined: #rocklinux 14:10 ::: elon!~afgh@zwelf.in-dsl.de has joined: #rocklinux 15:23 ::: BoS!~root@dialin-145-254-169-049.arcor-ip.net has quit: "leaving" 16:12 ::: aXp!axp@dsl-27-10.utaonline.at has joined: #rocklinux 16:20 ::: MadTux!~mike@master.hack-solutions.com has joined: #rocklinux 16:20 < MadTux> Greetings 16:20 < MadTux> PING mnemoc 16:20 < daja77> hi MadTux 16:20 < MadTux> hello Daniel :) 16:21 < netrunner> hi MadTux 16:26 < MadTux> hi Andreas 16:48 ::: MadTux!~mike@master.hack-solutions.com has quit: "leaving" 17:24 < blindy> moin 17:28 < blindy> rm -rf $root/$prefix 17:28 < blindy> interesting... 17:29 < daja77> hehe yes, rofl 17:29 < daja77> moin blindy 17:30 < blindy> moin daja77 17:33 ::: laga__!laga@p508ADF66.dip.t-dialin.net has quit: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) 17:35 < blindy> usually I'd cry for a -v as I always do, butt this time even I don't know what to say 17:45 < cchamilt_> Well I tried several things even cat /var/adm/flist/ocs and it didnt build correctly. It was bizarre. And since auto_prefix is not implemented I figured, why not - this actually works. 17:46 < netrunner> cchamilt_: but you remove everything installed!? 17:47 < cchamilt_> To reinstall it, you have to. It is one of those metacompiled languages that compiles itself in the install directory. 17:47 < daja77> cchamilt_: when $root="" and $prefix="" then ... 17:47 < cchamilt_> Which NEVER HAPPENS 17:48 < cchamilt_> I set it just above. Admittedly, it checks auto_prefix, but like I said auto_prefix is not implemented. 17:48 < SMP> yes, I saw that it 'can never happen' 17:48 < daja77> well $root="" happens often, and prefix=/usr or sth is not better :\ 17:49 < cchamilt_> that is why prefix equals something is safe right now. 17:49 < netrunner> cchamilt_: it does only not happen if prefix_auto is 1 17:49 < SMP> cchamilt_: pardon? Build-Pkg -prefix /foo is implemented 17:49 < cchamilt_> and you cant set auto_prefix without modifying the package script. 17:50 < cchamilt_> Yes, Build-Pkg. And you would do that why? 17:50 < netrunner> cchamilt_: I want all packages on /space 17:50 < cchamilt_> Targets cant do it. 17:50 < cchamilt_> Then you do it in a target? How? 17:51 < netrunner> cchamilt_: or: I wanted to try ocs, but had to put it in my /home/netrunner ? 17:51 < SMP> there's no point in jumping through burning hoops just to make a package build. the package maintainer can fix it or it gets disabled, finito. 17:51 < daja77> ack 17:52 < cchamilt_> At most it would build in /$prefix if $root is '' and that would be correct in build-pkg out of chroot. 17:52 < daja77> no 17:52 < cchamilt_> Well, I am fine with disabling packages. In fact I did this as I heard complaints going this route. 17:52 < netrunner> cchamilt_: usually planes dont crash into buildings. 17:52 < daja77> a prefix /usr would be bad too 17:53 < cchamilt_> daja: It is set to a safe value, if you change it, you are to blame. 17:53 ::: aXp!axp@dsl-27-10.utaonline.at has quit: "Lost terminal" 17:53 < daja77> cchamilt_: you are joking, right? 17:53 < netrunner> cchamilt_: it is possible to be changed exactly to give you the possibility to change it. 17:54 < cchamilt_> I think that packages introduced into rock should never be X unless it is required in all packages (ie. base). 17:54 < netrunner> cchamilt_: april 1th is only in a few days! 17:54 < daja77> i don't want to read every build skript just to be safe nothing wierd gets deleted 17:55 < cchamilt_> There is no conceivable way anyone using rock right now would do that. But like I said, I tried clean solutions (ones that should behave the same I might add). 17:55 < daja77> this is no clean solution, this is a dirty hack 17:56 < cchamilt_> I have idea why pushing rm -rf /opt/ocs from /var/adm/flist/ocs did not work. No idea. 17:56 < cchamilt_> Which is why I said so in the script. 17:56 < daja77> erhm no conf file should do such things 17:56 * netrunner did so once ... the scarfs still hurt ...;) 17:57 < cchamilt_> Well there are currently no accepted practices. 17:57 < cchamilt_> I have to go... bbl 18:04 * netrunner playing cscz 18:14 ::: laga!laga@p508ADECD.dip.t-dialin.net has joined: #rocklinux 18:21 * blindy gone 19:33 < daja77> not much and generic needs 4 cds 19:43 < netrunner> 5 19:43 < daja77> 5? 19:45 < netrunner> daja77: yes, I still did not learn that my kvm has only 4 ports :=) 19:52 ::: tcr!~tcr@pD9EAA93F.dip.t-dialin.net has joined: #rocklinux 19:57 ::: _iceblox!~iceblox@3ffe:400:cd0:0:0:0:1:3a has joined: #rocklinux 19:58 < daja77> damn it Create-ISO is a mess 19:59 ::: iceblox!~iceblox@3ffe:400:cd0:0:0:0:1:3a has quit: "changing servers" 20:04 < blindy> rehi 20:04 < blindy> daja77: ACK 20:05 ::: Frederic!~christian@pD9E39E50.dip.t-dialin.net has joined: #rocklinux 20:05 < daja77> who broke it 20:06 < blindy> well, it was already quite nice when I added DVD capability 20:07 < daja77> a new SCRIPT tag support - adds the possibility of ISO post-processing 20:07 < daja77> like needed for the rs6k boot ISO stuff ... 20:07 < daja77> sth like that perhaps 20:09 < netrunner> now I hope the system I built was ok, because I just killed all my files. on my build machine. 20:10 < blindy> netrunner: ehm... EUSER, I suppose... 20:10 < netrunner> blindy: I was trying to backup. but thought the windows were reverse. 20:10 < blindy> ehm... oh 20:11 < netrunner> well ... life's struggle and strange :) 20:11 < blindy> don't remind me of life... 20:11 < daja77> argl there was a non existant package in pkglist for the iso 20:11 < daja77> or better it was not put on cd 20:12 < netrunner> daja77: don't you make me shiver! 20:12 < blindy> daja77: reason? 20:12 < daja77> netrunner: these iso i can't give away, they are embarrassing even while build itself was quite ok 20:12 < netrunner> ok, /me rebooting and trying to install 20:12 < netrunner> daja77: hp? 20:13 < netrunner> I hope I do not have this lib problem in my build ... 20:13 < daja77> netrunner: pentium mmx 20:14 < daja77> blindy: dunno gimp-print42-4.2.5.gem 20:14 < daja77> is in filelist and the gem exists but is neither on disc1 nor disc2 20:14 < blindy> hmm 20:14 ::: Netsplit saberhagen.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: rolla, cytrinox 20:15 ::: Netsplit over, joins: rolla, cytrinox 20:15 < daja77> nice umount: /mnt/source is busy, wtf? 20:16 * daja77 getting mad with this cd set 20:18 < daja77> had to insert #1 3 times and skip one packge completely 20:25 < daja77> ah found sth 20:27 * _iceblox is getting mad with the Config scripts ;) 20:28 < daja77> *ggg* 20:28 < daja77> guess you are the first who runs them on netbsd 20:28 < _iceblox> one of the 3 gawks running wants some input, hmm 20:28 ::: NOS_!~NOS@pD950F28F.dip.t-dialin.net has joined: #rocklinux 20:30 < rxr> netbsd? 20:30 < rxr> huh 20:30 < _iceblox> *whistles innocently* yes 20:30 * rxr online via gprs - so I'll just debug rock removely and see you tomorrow or so ... 20:31 < daja77> rxr: what's up with gsmp server? 20:31 < rxr> daja77: broken switch 20:31 < daja77> still? 20:31 < daja77> omg 20:31 < rxr> and thoye damn bastards claim every day to buy a new one ... 20:31 < daja77> we have no isos dload locations atm :( 20:32 < rxr> btw - I registered at o2 to test the UMTS flat service officially started in outumn 20:32 < _iceblox> atm? since the clt ;) 20:32 < rxr> daja77: nope - all is on iso.rocklinux.de 20:32 < daja77> ah k. 20:32 < rxr> and all should be on nexus.tfh-berlin.de 20:32 < daja77> rxr: guess you don't mind when I throw out non working dload urls out of typo2? 20:32 < daja77> 3 20:33 < daja77> _iceblox: one week or so 20:33 < rxr> daja77: no! dont't do this 20:33 < rxr> they will soon work again 20:34 < daja77> sigh 20:34 < daja77> k. 20:34 < rxr> and users should be smart enough to recognize a time outing server and use the next in the list 20:34 < rxr> (this chat becomes quite expensive ...) 20:34 < daja77> the were all not working when i tried 20:34 < daja77> k. then we stop it 20:36 ::: Darkembrace!~NOS@pD950F34F.dip.t-dialin.net has quit: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) 20:43 * blindy --> bed 21:00 ::: Droot!~Droot@203.175.64.166 has joined: #rocklinux 21:13 ::: tcr!~tcr@pD9EAA93F.dip.t-dialin.net has quit: Remote closed the connection 21:23 < rxr> ok - enought money spent - cu soon 21:24 < daja77> cu 21:32 ::: Droot!~Droot@203.175.64.166 has quit: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) 21:47 ::: Droot!~Droot@203.175.64.219 has joined: #rocklinux 21:51 < daja77> oh ssh not working on my rock 2.0.1 build 21:51 ::: Droot!~Droot@203.175.64.219 has quit: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) 21:59 ::: k3t_!k3t@pD9E8E9E4.dip.t-dialin.net has quit: "ze ûda brí-tenkoR" 22:25 ::: Frederic!~christian@pD9E39E50.dip.t-dialin.net has quit: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 22:38 < netrunner> :/ not very successful on this side 22:40 < daja77> you know what, stone did not install openssl but it was selected 22:41 < netrunner> you know what, I have no e2fsprogs -> no fsck -> no boot 22:41 < netrunner> and creation of initrd does not work 22:41 < netrunner> and e17 as x login manager is there but not selectable 22:42 < daja77> k. this will be a long bug list 22:42 < daja77> *sigh* 22:43 < netrunner> hm, and I deleted the .errs, so I do not know why they failed 22:44 * netrunner being too fast and now furious ;) 22:44 < daja77> ;) 22:45 < netrunner> at least I have graphical login 22:45 < daja77> well that wasn't a problem of errs 22:45 < daja77> but of install scripts 22:55 < netrunner> ah, I guess that mkinitrd does not work because of missing e2fsprogs 23:20 < netrunner> argl, accidentally deleted beginning of my download/ 23:23 ::: holyolli!~holyolli@pD9525CF8.dip.t-dialin.net has joined: #rocklinux 23:23 ::: holyolli!~holyolli@pD9525CF8.dip.t-dialin.net has left #rocklinux: "Leaving" 23:24 < netrunner> damn, I remember I fixed a problem with rockplug, but what was it? 23:25 < netrunner> hm, maybe it was fixed in next version ... 23:27 < netrunner> note to self: rc system restart does not behave as expected. 23:33 * netrunner going to bed, to much today ;) 23:47 ::: NOS_!~NOS@pD950F28F.dip.t-dialin.net has quit: "Client exiting" 23:54 ::: _iceblox is now known as iceblox --- Log closed Die Mär 30 00:00:24 2004