--- Log opened Mon Mr 29 00:00:08 2004
00:17 < cchamilt_> OK, I think I have finished all of generic except for mono-debugger
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00:49 < cchamilt_> i be going now too
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00:51 < cchamilt_> Anybody wants a finished (excluding mono-debugger) pentium-mmx generic 2.0.1 let me know.
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05:04 ::: Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux 2.0.0 released! http://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html
05:04 ::: Topic set by SMP  Mon Mar  8 01:33:41 2004
05:04 Users #rocklinux:
05:04 [ _bg_     ] [ daja77 ] [ ija    ] [ Nebukadneza`] [ rxr    ] [ togg] 
05:04 [ Aard     ] [ darix  ] [ k3t_   ] [ netcrow     ] [ SMP    ] [ true] 
05:04 [ blindy   ] [ dsoul  ] [ kasc   ] [ netrunne1   ] [ snyke  ] 
05:04 [ cchamilt_] [ fake   ] [ laga__ ] [ netrunner   ] [ StefanG] 
05:04 [ clifford ] [ Freak  ] [ mistik1] [ owl         ] [ tfing  ] 
05:04 [ cytrinox ] [ iceblox] [ mnemoc ] [ rolla       ] [ th     ] 
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05:04 ::: Channel #rocklinux created Sun Aug  3 22:11:35 2003
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06:50 < netrunner> moin
06:54 * netrunner dreamed tonight that all sm patches got applied.
09:07 < daja77> *ggg*
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10:20 < Darkembrace> hi there ;)
10:20 < Darkembrace> i need some help again ...
10:20 < netrunner> the bowl of petunias ...
10:23 < Darkembrace> i got an actual built optimized for p3 and now it seems that /usr/include/gnu/stubs.h is missing
10:23 < Darkembrace> it means i can't use make ...and thats veeeery bad
10:24 < Darkembrace> anyone got a solutiuon for this prob?
10:25 < daja77> on the installed system?
10:25 < daja77> or on build environment
10:25 < Darkembrace> it's already installed
10:26 < Darkembrace> i can't use make or anything else needed for building a package
10:26 < Darkembrace> even ./scriupts/Config gives an error back
10:26 < Darkembrace> sorry for the bad english ...but this night was very short
10:27 < daja77> should be /usr/include/stubs.h
10:27 < Darkembrace> no stubs.h there :(
10:28 < daja77> seems to be a build with a broken glibc
10:28 < daja77> what isos are that, i only know we had this long time ago
10:29 < Darkembrace> hmm i don't think so, cause fake built it ... but he is in bed :(
10:29 < daja77> *ggg*
10:29 < daja77> kick him out
10:29 * daja77 hides
10:30 < Darkembrace> have you ever ttried to wake him up? *g*
10:30 < daja77> uhm yes
10:30 < daja77> open the windows and let the sun shine in *ggg*
10:30 < Darkembrace> how long did id take?
10:30 < Darkembrace> muahaha thats evil
10:31 < daja77> dunno it was easier than to wake up clifford
10:31 < daja77> <- evil
10:31 < Darkembrace> can i get a compiled glibc-22 from somewhere?
10:31 < daja77> 2.2? O_o
10:31 < Darkembrace> i read somewhere that subs belongs to glibc 22
10:32 < Darkembrace> it was the first hit on google ...
10:32 < daja77> to glibc23 as well
10:33 < Darkembrace> fine 
10:34 < daja77> have no compiled glibc for p3
10:35 < Darkembrace> hmmmm seems that i have to wait till fake wakes up
10:35 < Darkembrace> perhaps shutting down his box will wake him up *eg*
10:35 < daja77> hehe you could shorten your timeout ...
10:36 < daja77> and btw i have nothing to do with this matter ;)
10:37 < Darkembrace> *g*
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10:54 * netrunner has a p3 build. at home on cd. 
10:56 < Darkembrace> i think i'll try a cross bild on my other machine
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13:05 < cytrinox> moin
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16:20 < MadTux> Greetings
16:20 < MadTux> PING mnemoc 
16:20 < daja77> hi MadTux 
16:20 < MadTux> hello Daniel :)
16:21 < netrunner> hi MadTux 
16:26 < MadTux> hi Andreas
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17:24 < blindy> moin
17:28 < blindy> rm -rf $root/$prefix
17:28 < blindy> interesting...
17:29 < daja77> hehe yes, rofl
17:29 < daja77> moin blindy 
17:30 < blindy> moin daja77 
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17:35 < blindy> usually I'd cry for a -v as I always do, butt this time even I don't know what to say
17:45 < cchamilt_> Well I tried several things even cat /var/adm/flist/ocs and it didnt build correctly.  It was bizarre.  And since auto_prefix is not implemented I figured, why not - this actually works.
17:46 < netrunner> cchamilt_: but you remove everything installed!?
17:47 < cchamilt_> To reinstall it, you have to.  It is one of those metacompiled languages that compiles itself in the install directory.
17:47 < daja77> cchamilt_: when $root="" and $prefix="" then ...
17:47 < cchamilt_> Which NEVER HAPPENS
17:48 < cchamilt_> I set it just above.  Admittedly, it checks auto_prefix, but like I said auto_prefix is not implemented.
17:48 < SMP> yes, I saw that it 'can never happen'
17:48 < daja77> well $root="" happens often, and prefix=/usr or sth is not better :\
17:49 < cchamilt_> that is why prefix equals something is safe right now.
17:49 < netrunner> cchamilt_: it does only not happen if prefix_auto is 1
17:49 < SMP> cchamilt_: pardon? Build-Pkg -prefix /foo is implemented
17:49 < cchamilt_> and you cant set auto_prefix without modifying the package script.
17:50 < cchamilt_> Yes, Build-Pkg.  And you would do that why?
17:50 < netrunner> cchamilt_: I want all packages on /space
17:50 < cchamilt_> Targets cant do it.
17:50 < cchamilt_> Then you do it in a target? How?
17:51 < netrunner> cchamilt_: or: I wanted to try ocs, but had to put it in my /home/netrunner ?
17:51 < SMP> there's no point in jumping through burning hoops just to make a package build. the package maintainer can fix it or it gets disabled, finito.
17:51 < daja77> ack
17:52 < cchamilt_> At most it would build in /$prefix if $root is '' and that would be correct in build-pkg out of chroot.
17:52 < daja77> no
17:52 < cchamilt_> Well, I am fine with disabling packages.  In fact I did this as I heard complaints going this route.
17:52 < netrunner> cchamilt_: usually planes dont crash into buildings.
17:52 < daja77> a prefix /usr would be bad too
17:53 < cchamilt_> daja: It is set to a safe value, if you change it, you are to blame.
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17:53 < daja77> cchamilt_: you are joking, right?
17:53 < netrunner> cchamilt_: it is possible to be changed exactly to give you the possibility to change it.
17:54 < cchamilt_> I think that packages introduced into rock should never be X unless it is required in all packages (ie. base).
17:54 < netrunner> cchamilt_: april 1th is only in a few days!
17:54 < daja77> i don't want to read every build skript just to be safe nothing wierd gets deleted 
17:55 < cchamilt_> There is no conceivable way anyone using rock right now would do that.  But like I said, I tried clean solutions (ones that should behave the same I might add).
17:55 < daja77> this is no clean solution, this is a dirty hack
17:56 < cchamilt_> I have idea why pushing rm -rf /opt/ocs from /var/adm/flist/ocs did not work.  No idea.
17:56 < cchamilt_> Which is why I said so in the script.
17:56 < daja77> erhm no conf file should do such things
17:56 * netrunner did so once ... the scarfs still hurt ...;)
17:57 < cchamilt_> Well there are currently no accepted practices.
17:57 < cchamilt_> I have to go... bbl
18:04 * netrunner playing cscz
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19:33 < daja77> not much and generic needs 4 cds
19:43 < netrunner> 5
19:43 < daja77> 5?
19:45 < netrunner> daja77: yes, I still did not learn that my kvm has only 4 ports :=)
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19:58 < daja77> damn it Create-ISO is a mess
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20:04 < blindy> rehi
20:04 < blindy> daja77: ACK
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20:05 < daja77> who broke it
20:06 < blindy> well, it was already quite nice when I added DVD capability
20:07 < daja77> a new SCRIPT tag support - adds the possibility of ISO post-processing
20:07 < daja77> like needed for the rs6k boot ISO stuff ...
20:07 < daja77> sth like that perhaps
20:09 < netrunner> now I hope the system I built was ok, because I just killed all my files. on my build machine.
20:10 < blindy> netrunner: ehm... EUSER, I suppose...
20:10 < netrunner> blindy: I was trying to backup. but thought the windows were reverse.
20:10 < blindy> ehm... oh
20:11 < netrunner> well ... life's struggle and strange :)
20:11 < blindy> don't remind me of life...
20:11 < daja77> argl there was a non existant package in pkglist for the iso
20:11 < daja77> or better it was not put on cd
20:12 < netrunner> daja77: don't you make me shiver!
20:12 < blindy> daja77: reason?
20:12 < daja77> netrunner: these iso i can't give away, they are embarrassing even while build itself was quite ok
20:12 < netrunner> ok, /me rebooting and trying to install
20:12 < netrunner> daja77: hp?
20:13 < netrunner> I hope I do not have this lib problem in my build ...
20:13 < daja77> netrunner: pentium mmx
20:14 < daja77> blindy: dunno gimp-print42-4.2.5.gem
20:14 < daja77> is in filelist and the gem exists but is neither on disc1 nor disc2
20:14 < blindy> hmm
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20:15 < daja77> nice umount: /mnt/source is busy, wtf?
20:16 * daja77 getting mad with this cd set
20:18 < daja77> had to insert #1 3 times and skip one packge completely
20:25 < daja77> ah found sth
20:27 * _iceblox is getting mad with the Config scripts ;)
20:28 < daja77> *ggg*
20:28 < daja77> guess you are the first who runs them on netbsd
20:28 < _iceblox> one of the 3 gawks running wants some input, hmm
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20:30 < rxr> netbsd?
20:30 < rxr> huh
20:30 < _iceblox> *whistles innocently* yes
20:30 * rxr online via gprs - so I'll just debug rock removely and see you tomorrow or so ...
20:31 < daja77> rxr: what's up with gsmp server?
20:31 < rxr> daja77: broken switch
20:31 < daja77> still?
20:31 < daja77> omg
20:31 < rxr> and thoye damn bastards claim every day to buy a new one ...
20:31 < daja77> we have no isos dload locations atm :(
20:32 < rxr> btw - I registered at o2 to test the UMTS flat service officially started in outumn
20:32 < _iceblox> atm? since the clt ;)
20:32 < rxr> daja77: nope - all is on iso.rocklinux.de
20:32 < daja77> ah k.
20:32 < rxr> and all should be on nexus.tfh-berlin.de 
20:32 < daja77> rxr: guess you don't mind when I throw out non working dload urls out of typo2?
20:32 < daja77> 3
20:33 < daja77> _iceblox: one week or so
20:33 < rxr> daja77: no! dont't do this
20:33 < rxr> they will soon work again
20:34 < daja77> sigh
20:34 < daja77> k.
20:34 < rxr> and users should be smart enough to recognize a time outing server and use the next in the list
20:34 < rxr> (this chat becomes quite expensive ...)
20:34 < daja77> the were all not working when i tried
20:34 < daja77> k. then we stop it
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21:23 < rxr> ok - enought money spent - cu soon
21:24 < daja77> cu
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21:51 < daja77> oh ssh not working on my rock 2.0.1 build
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22:38 < netrunner> :/ not very successful on this side
22:40 < daja77> you know what, stone did not install openssl but it was selected
22:41 < netrunner> you know what, I have no e2fsprogs -> no fsck -> no boot
22:41 < netrunner> and creation of initrd does not work
22:41 < netrunner> and e17 as x login manager is there but not selectable
22:42 < daja77> k. this will be a long bug list
22:42 < daja77> *sigh*
22:43 < netrunner> hm, and I deleted the .errs, so I do not know why they failed 
22:44 * netrunner being too fast and now furious ;)
22:44 < daja77> ;)
22:45 < netrunner> at least I have graphical login 
22:45 < daja77> well that wasn't a problem of errs
22:45 < daja77> but of install scripts
22:55 < netrunner> ah, I guess that mkinitrd does not work because of missing e2fsprogs
23:20 < netrunner> argl, accidentally deleted beginning of my download/
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23:24 < netrunner> damn, I remember I fixed a problem with rockplug, but what was it?
23:25 < netrunner> hm, maybe it was fixed in next version ...
23:27 < netrunner> note to self: rc system restart does not behave as expected.
23:33 * netrunner going to bed, to much today ;)
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