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--- Log opened Don Apr 01 00:00:58 2004
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00:25 < daja77> A-Tui: !
00:31 < A-Tui> hola daja77
00:31 < A-Tui> how are you?
00:31 < owl> hi A-Tui 
00:31 < daja77> me? quite fine, thx and you?
00:31 < A-Tui> hi owl
00:32 < A-Tui> daja77, fine too, i'm very happy lattely :)
00:32 < daja77> good
00:32 < A-Tui> anyone know how to get the number of pages from a pdf file?
00:33 < daja77> open it?
00:33 < A-Tui> :)
00:34 < A-Tui> i need to get the value in a script
00:34 < A-Tui> i supposed that must be include in the file some way
00:34 < daja77> yep pdf is a textfile, so you could search for it
00:35 < tfing> A-Tui: pdfinfo $file.pdf | grep Pages:
00:35 < A-Tui> tfing, thanks, i didn't know that command
00:35 < tfing> neither do i, up to a pdf<tab><tab> :)
00:35 < A-Tui> XD
00:35 < A-Tui> i found it in the ascii file
00:36 < A-Tui> is in a tab named /N
00:39 < daja77> hehe
00:57 < daja77> n8
00:58 < A-Tui> bye daja77
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02:23 < mnemoc> re
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05:06 ::: Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux 2.0.0 released! https://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html
05:06 ::: Topic set by SMP  Mon Mar  8 01:33:41 2004
05:06 Users #rocklinux:
05:06 [ _bg_      ] [ daja77     ] [ iceblox] [ Nebukadneza] [ rxr       ] [ th  ] 
05:06 [ Aard      ] [ darix      ] [ ija    ] [ netcrow    ] [ Samus-Aran] [ togg] 
05:06 [ blindy    ] [ dsoul      ] [ kasc   ] [ netrunne1  ] [ SMP       ] [ true] 
05:06 [ BoS^afk   ] [ fake       ] [ laga   ] [ netrunner  ] [ snyke     ] 
05:06 [ clifford  ] [ founder-afk] [ mistik1] [ owl        ] [ StefanG   ] 
05:06 [ cytrinox`-] [ Freak      ] [ mnemoc ] [ rolla      ] [ tfing     ] 
05:06 ::: Irssi: #rocklinux: 33 nicks (@/0 +/0  -/0)
05:06 ::: Channel #rocklinux created Sun Aug  3 22:11:35 2003
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06:50 < netrunner> moin
07:34 < BoS^afk> moin
07:34 ::: BoS^afk is now known as BoS
07:37 < netrunner> hehehe https://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/04/01/0038200
07:37 < Aard> https://www.ifpi.de/index.htm?jumpUrl=regtemplate-yellow2.reg.tp
08:18 < blindy> moin
08:21 < blindy> I am going to hate today
08:37 < netrunner> blindy: doesn't it get boring?
08:39 < blindy> netrunner: I've hated April Fool's Day each and every year for the past 5 years, why should today be different?
08:47 < blindy> I didn't even get out of bed and already encountered 3 "jokes"
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09:36 < owl> moin
09:45 < owl> *GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH*!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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10:38 < blindy> moin owl 
10:38 < blindy> owl: I see you realized today's date
10:39 < owl> hi blindy . yeah. my foot is joking. 
10:40 < blindy> hmhm
10:40 < owl> hm?
10:40 < blindy> nothing
10:41 < owl> blindy: *kick*
10:42 < blindy> :P
10:42 < blindy> just not in the mood of anything today
10:42 < owl> *har*  welcome in the club
10:44 < blindy> had a sad dream, that's all
10:45 < owl> why sad dream? which content?
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10:53 < daja77> https://www.ifpi.de/index.htm?jumpUrl=regtemplate-yellow2.reg.tp <- rofl
10:55 < blindy> April Fool
10:56 < daja77> nope better
10:56 < blindy> hm?
10:56 < blindy> compromised server?
10:56 < daja77> the guys who placed that used a bug in ifpis redirector 
10:56 < blindy> CSS?
10:57 < daja77> the content you see lies on https://www.ifpi.deregtemplate-yellow2.reg.tp/
10:57 < daja77> ^^
10:57 < blindy> oh
10:58 < daja77> that rocks
10:58 < daja77> well go for www.ifpi.de to see their message
11:00 < blindy> ok, gotta go to work
11:00 < blindy> bye
11:00 < daja77> cu blindy 
11:23 < rxr> hi
11:49 < daja77> hi rxr
12:01 < rxr> hi daja77 
12:13 < rxr> I'll release a new handbook today - the current pre-release can be viewed as html as usual at:
12:13 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/products/rock-handbook/html/rock-handbook.html
12:14 < rxr> the developer chapter got a big content review and addition ...
12:38 < netrunner> https://loonyboi.com/if/quake/screenshots.htm
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13:29 < Samus-Aran> I'll be back
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14:07 < rxr> hi togg
14:12 < cytrinox`> moin
14:21 < rxr> moin cytrinox` 
14:25 < netrunner> hm https://www.grsecurity.net/
14:25 < netrunner> the guy on the second pic looks like fake ;)
14:42 < daja77> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/5-glibc23.out
14:42 < daja77> ./scripts/Build-Pkg: line 2: 31767 Done                    eval "echo \"\${hookidx_$1[*]}\""
14:42 < daja77> ^^
14:42 < daja77>      31768 File size limit exceeded| sort
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14:49 < netrunner> daja77: you are bizarre
14:56 < daja77> me?
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16:06 < rolla> re
16:12 < daja77> hi rolla 
16:13 < rxr> hi rolla 
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17:05 < rxr> hi BoS 
17:08 < netrunner> rxr: you use an autogreet script? ;)
17:08 < netrunner> or maybe you want to show that you have all-time-inet again? ;)
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17:12 < daja77> rxr could join the idlerpg ^^
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17:17 < meddochat> hi everybody
17:17 < meddochat> is somebody in here awake?
17:17 < netrunner> hi newbody
17:17 < meddochat> hi netrunner
17:17 < meddochat> do you know if ROCK linux can be used for creating distro's which can be put on cd etc?
17:18 < daja77> yes
17:19 < netrunner> meddochat: thats even the main use :)
17:19 < meddochat> ok
17:19 < meddochat> thanks
17:19 * rolla hates april 1st
17:19 < netrunner> 're welcome
17:19 < netrunner> rolla: why? because it's the date where clifford quit rocklinux?
17:20 < daja77> rolla: ack
17:20 < daja77> netrunner: ?!
17:20 < meddochat> how does it work? install rock linux and then create a new custom linux?
17:20 < netrunner> daja77: haven't read the ml? :(
17:21 < daja77> no
17:21 < clifford> daja77: I got a better offer from a software company located in redmond.
17:21 < daja77> clifford: hehe the rockwindows distribution build kit
17:21 * netrunner giggles
17:22 * daja77 waiting for level 28
17:22 < daja77> clifford, netrunner anymore of us on easterhegg?
17:22 < meddochat> could somebody help me ?
17:23 < netrunner> meddochat: sure. but I haven't seen him lately.
17:23 < rolla> ah yes more stupied aprils fools stuff
17:23 < meddochat> who?
17:24 < rolla> it is a day I do not read slashdot at all
17:24 < rolla> and take all news with a block of salt
17:24 < netrunner> meddochat: somebody ;)
17:25 < meddochat> netrunner: could you help me?
17:25 < netrunner> meddochat: I do not know, maybe I can decide if you tell me your problem ...
17:25 < meddochat> do i need all 3 iso images?
17:26 < daja77> yes
17:26 < daja77> clifford: btw is this sth we could change?
17:26 < meddochat> ok
17:26 < netrunner> daja77: how could you? 
17:26 < daja77> netrunner: how could i what?
17:27 < clifford> daja77: this is one of the long-time todos.
17:27 < netrunner> daja77: i cannot imagine how to change that. the dependencies are enormous.
17:27 < daja77> clifford: ic it is just that almost every newbie asks if he can only get one cd ...
17:28 < meddochat> sorry
17:28 < clifford> the best solution would be creating a small binary dist for that.
17:28 < daja77> meddochat: i was not about to blame you for sth
17:31 < meddochat> bye guys
17:31 < meddochat> thanks for support
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17:32 < daja77> clifford: yep one solution, but maybe it shouldn't be called minimal :)
17:34 < netrunner> daja77: call it jumstart or so :) beginners-edition ... quickrockkit
17:35 < daja77> starterkit ^^
17:45 < daja77> oh why is rocklinux.org mapped to www.rocklinux.net?
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17:46 < rxr> daja77: virtual server stuff?
17:46 < rxr> daja77: and www.rocklinux.net is the default in the httpd.conf ... ?!?
17:47 < daja77> i am not the admin, just noticed that i can't reach rocklinux.org
17:47 < daja77> but maybe sth like that yes
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18:01 < clifford> daja77: http or https ?
18:01 < daja77> http
18:02 < clifford> hostname is rocklinux.org or www.rocklinux.org ?
18:02 < daja77> www.
18:02 < clifford> it works here.
18:03 < daja77> ah no ic, the browser used https and i didn't noticed
18:04 * clifford is testing an smap journal with 37 patches ..
18:04 < daja77> does it work with https at yours=
18:05 < clifford> no. port 443 is the www.rocklinux.net webpage only.
18:20 < daja77> hm
18:48 < clifford> www.clifford.at/priv/hellobash.c
18:51 < daja77> :)
18:52 < daja77> .oO (this software sucks
18:52 < daja77> )
18:56 < clifford> daja77: ??
19:01 < daja77> here at work
19:04 < clifford> oh. I thought I ment my hellobash example..
19:06 < clifford> SMP: u here?
19:06 < daja77> :)
19:10 < SMP> clifford: yah
19:11 < clifford> I'm currently testing a larger smap journal containing you xfsprogs update
19:11 < clifford> unfortunately xfsprogs-2.6.3 isn't on the site anymore
19:11 < clifford> any argumens againgst trying an update to 2.6.9 instead ?
19:12 < SMP> yeah, no, I already have it modified for 2.6.9 here
19:12 * netrunner thinks new version is always good version.
19:13 < netrunner>  .o( have paid for these thoughts several times )
19:13 < SMP> netrunner: hah, try that with automake / autoconf ;)
19:13 < clifford> if you sm send it now I can just merge it in my smap journal.
19:13 < SMP> I don
19:13 < clifford> you don?
19:13 < SMP> I don't have the patches checked or rediffed yet
19:13 < SMP> I'll do it now
19:13 < clifford> oh - ok. so I will do it in my hotfixes.diff ..
19:14 < SMP> ok, patches still apply
19:17 < SMP> clifford: 2004040119171126072
19:18 < clifford> smap -a journal_x.txt -A 2004040119171126072
19:18 < clifford> oups!
19:19 < SMP> clifford: hmm, all-zero chksums in 2004040116111403339 ...
19:20 < clifford> yes. I do a Create-Cksums when applying the anyways.
19:20 < SMP> oh, right, you're policy-routing patches in a loop, so you see them twice ;)
19:21 < clifford> sure. clifford the developers is independent from clifford the tree maintainer.
19:21 < clifford> oh, btw:
19:21 < clifford> www.clifford.at/priv/hellobash.c
19:22 < clifford> .. I want to use such a thing to speed up the config.
19:22 < SMP> yeah, I already saw it
19:22 < SMP> uhm
19:22 < clifford> What do you think about that?
19:22 < darix> any one got an idea why this crashes python: https://monsters.rsn.uni-rostock.de/~darix/python-libxml2.txt
19:22 < SMP> clifford: how is it supposed to work?
19:24 < clifford> functions which do check if packages are installed, mark them, etc. would become builtins
19:24 < SMP> hmmm
19:25 < clifford> this builtins can easily maintain the info in memory data structure and only read/write them at the beginning/end of a config cycle
19:25 < SMP> are you positive that these things are the hotspots?
19:25 < clifford> for compatibility it still would be possible to have the same functionality in shell functions.
19:25 < SMP> did you profile it? or is it obvious and I'm just stupid?
19:26 < clifford> well - imo it is obvious but I planed to profile it bofore doing any implementation..
19:27 < SMP> darix: what's in config.xml ?
19:28 < darix> SMP: the data is valid.
19:28 < darix> only addChild crashes 
19:28 < darix> parsing itself works fine
19:29 < SMP> can you strip config.xml to a minimum?
19:29 < darix> *bastels*
19:30 < darix> https://monsters.rsn.uni-rostock.de/~darix/config.xml
19:30 < darix> thats it
19:30 < SMP> 403
19:30 < darix> as i want to attach the node to the root element ;)
19:30 < darix> fixed
19:31 < SMP> that's not well-formed XML
19:31 < SMP> <?xml ?> stuff is missing
19:31 < darix> hmm
19:31 < darix> SMP: the parsing itself works ...
19:31 < darix> i can do xpath queries/ access nodes...
19:32 < darix> attributes...
19:32 < darix> and iirc you can omit <?xml?
19:33 < SMP> Python 2.3.3, libxml2 2.6.2 here, and it also crashes
19:34 < SMP> and why the hell are we using 2.6.2 ..
19:36 < darix> i think i found it 
19:36 < darix> 0x40af4252 in libxml_name () from /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/libxml2mod.so
19:36 < mnemoc> *yawn*
19:36 < darix> it crashes on accessing my new node.
19:36 < darix> not on add
19:36 < darix> *looks for the constructor of xmlNode*
19:39 * netrunner reinstalled his doze and now counterstrice cz always crashes :(
19:43 < clifford> I'm off now. cu.
19:45 < darix> cya clifford 
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20:01 < darix> SMP: solved. :)
20:01 < darix> self.links = self.doc.newDocNode(None,"links",None)
20:02 < darix> self.root.addChild(self.links)
20:02 < darix> doesnt crash anymore :)
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20:05 < SMP> it's still not fine of libxml2 to segfault in the first case ...
20:07 < darix> indeed :)
20:07 < darix> SMP: i added it to the bugreport todo list
20:07 < darix> will report it when im done with the script
20:07 < darix> SMP: the question is: bug in libxml or the bindings?
20:09 < SMP> well the bindings are included with libxml2 as far as I can see, so ..
20:09 < netrunner> we, it works ...
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20:10 < netrunner> gotta mark these drivers with a "weee" :)
20:12 * netrunner pulling an image from that hd
20:48 < blindy> hi hi and rehi
21:03 < blindy> hmm
21:03 * blindy --> bed
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22:42 < tfing> mnemoc: piano piano va lontano <- ?
22:51 < netrunner> piano is an instrument ...
22:52 < StefanG> exact :)
22:52 < StefanG> huhu :)
22:53 < tfing> yes, and so is a violin
22:56 < mnemoc> tfing: it's an italian expression
22:56 < mnemoc> piano means slow
22:57 < tfing> and lontano means safe
22:58 < mnemoc> more than safe, far away :)
22:58 < tfing> well that gives me an insight about what you meants
22:58 < tfing> meant
22:58 < mnemoc> =)
22:58 < tfing> but i'm still puzzled by a message in italian  in submaster
22:59 < mnemoc> it's an expression... not a message in italian
22:59 < mnemoc> like .... c'est la vie
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23:54 < daja77> italian in submaster?
23:56 < mnemoc> i said an italian expression as a comment and tfing got puzzled :p
23:56 < tfing> ;Ž
23:57 < daja77> hehe
23:58 < owl> remoin
23:58 < darix> how do i get the complete (x)Path of t xmlNode object with libxml2?
23:58 < darix> SMP: ?
23:58 < mnemoc> moin owl 
23:58 < owl> moin mnemoc 
23:59 < owl> attention - aggressive mood
23:59 < darix> owl: playing UT solves this.
23:59 < owl> darix: nah.  i'm not playing anything
--- Log closed Fre Apr 02 00:00:15 2004