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01:08 ::: Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux 2.0.0 released! http://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html
01:08 ::: Topic set by SMP  Mon Mar  8 01:33:41 2004
01:08 Users #rocklinux:
01:08 [ _JimBoy   ] [ cchamilt] [ esden  ] [ mnemoc   ] [ rxr    ] [ th  ] 
01:08 [ A-Tui     ] [ clifford] [ fake   ] [ netcrow  ] [ shiny  ] [ togg] 
01:08 [ Aard      ] [ cytrinox] [ Freak  ] [ netrunne1] [ SMP    ] [ true] 
01:08 [ alanjwylie] [ daja77  ] [ freddy ] [ netrunner] [ snyke  ] 
01:08 [ blindy    ] [ darix   ] [ ija    ] [ owl      ] [ StefanG] 
01:08 [ BoS       ] [ dsoul   ] [ mistik1] [ rolla    ] [ tfing  ] 
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01:08 ::: Channel #rocklinux created Sun Aug  3 22:11:35 2003
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01:20 ::: Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux 2.0.0 released! http://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html
01:20 ::: Topic set by SMP  Mon Mar  8 01:33:41 2004
01:20 Users #rocklinux:
01:20 [ _JimBoy   ] [ cchamilt] [ esden  ] [ mnemoc   ] [ shiny  ] [ togg] 
01:20 [ A-Tui     ] [ clifford] [ fake   ] [ netcrow  ] [ SMP    ] [ true] 
01:20 [ Aard      ] [ cytrinox] [ Freak  ] [ netrunner] [ snyke  ] 
01:20 [ alanjwylie] [ daja77  ] [ freddy ] [ owl      ] [ StefanG] 
01:20 [ blindy    ] [ darix   ] [ ija    ] [ rolla    ] [ tfing  ] 
01:20 [ BoS       ] [ dsoul   ] [ mistik1] [ rxr      ] [ th     ] 
01:20 ::: Irssi: #rocklinux: 32 nicks (@/0 +/0  -/0)
01:20 ::: Channel #rocklinux created Sun Aug  3 22:11:35 2003
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04:55 < nookie> http://quiz.ravenblack.net/videogame.pl
04:55 < nookie> I am a Light Cycle
04:55 < nookie> I drive fast, I turn fast, I do everything fast. I even  breakfast. I tend to confuse people with my sudden changes of heart.
04:55 < nookie> Sometimes I even confuse myself, which tends to cause problems.
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06:01 < nookie_> mnemoc: ping
06:04 < mnemoc> pong
06:05 < mnemoc> nookie_: pong
06:06 < nookie_> ah
06:06 < nookie_> great :)
06:09 < mnemoc> :)
06:33 < StefanG> moin
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06:44 < nookie_> Heya StefanG 
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06:51 * StefanG is just sitting in a car on the A9 :-)
06:51 < nookie_> StefanG: enjoy
06:51 < StefanG> *lag*
06:51 < StefanG> lag between 5 and 50 sec ;-)
06:51 < nookie_> heh
06:52 < StefanG> its a good idea to take someone with you who has a umts and gprs flatrate :)
07:03 < nookie_> clifford: You're alive?
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08:10 < owl> moin
08:10 < nookie_> Hi owly! :)
08:14 < owl> hi nookie_ 
08:14 < owl> how are you?
08:14 < nookie_> I'm fine. :))
08:14 < nookie_> Submaster finally worked. :)
08:14 < nookie_> And you?
08:17 < owl> i c. 
08:17 < owl> hmm. dunno yet. still tired. got up some minutes ago :p
08:17 < nookie_> <- Still awake.
08:17 < owl> hehe
08:17 < nookie_> :)
08:18 < owl> YEAH! they didn't forget to send my daily spam-mails *jumping happy up-and-down* :p
08:18 < nookie_> lol
08:19 < owl> *g* at least they will never forget me :ppp
08:19 < nookie_> Many girls also don't forget.
08:19 < nookie_> Mostly young and nasty teens, which want to have some *fun* with me. :p
08:20 < owl> hoeh?
08:20 < nookie_> Spam ;)
08:20 < owl> ah so *g*
08:20 < nookie_> :)
08:20 < owl> oh. cool. a .exe wanted to install itself :p
08:23 < nookie_> heh
08:24 < owl> hm?
08:24 < nookie_> I just wrote "heh"
08:24 < owl> ah so
08:34 < netrunner> moin
08:34 < owl> hi netrunner 
08:35 < nookie_> Hey netrunner :)
09:18 < rxr> rehi
09:34 < nookie_> hi rxr 
10:31 < blindy> moin
10:57 < blindy> hmm
11:38 < blindy> can someone explain to me why dovecot sometimes does and sometimse doesn't delete Mails from mboxes?
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11:39 < blindy> stupid fucking dovecot
11:40 < tcr> moin all
11:40 < blindy> moin tcr 
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12:19 < StefanG> ree :)
12:20 < blindy> moin
12:29 < nookie> wb StefanG 
13:33 < cytrinox> moin
13:34 < netrunner> why is nobody @easterhegg from you?
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14:21 < SMP> netrunner: oh, who's around at easterhegg? Clifford?
14:26 < tcr> cchamilt, there?
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14:45 < netrunner> SMP: /me, daja77, clifford
14:46 < blindy> netrunner: hug everyone from me 
14:47 < SMP> yeah, greetings to the gang
14:47 < SMP> I was pondering to go to EH, but then suddenly it was Easter already ;-O
14:48 < blindy> I have to prepare a 15 hour course on linux systemadministration till tuesday >_<
14:48 < blindy> so far, I have the first 3 hours >_<
14:48 < netrunner> SMP: you can still come.
14:50 < SMP> so much for the theory
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15:48 < netrunner> SMP: well, it's up to you to take your hands on now ;)
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16:13 < raga> hello anybody here ?
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16:43 < StefanG> netrunner: i am at easterhegg :)
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16:56 < raga> hi
16:57 < raga> is someone here that can give me some info about rock linux ?
16:57 < blindy> depends on the questions :)
17:01 < raga> Sorry, was shortly absent.
17:02 < raga> Is it possible to create a distribution with rock that is like knoppix?
17:02 < raga> I mean that you can boot from it and copy it to the harddisk from the booted cd ?
17:05 < blindy> sure
17:05 < blindy> but noone has done something like that yet
17:05 < blindy> so far it is "only" the traditional way of installing
17:05 < raga> That means that I have to implement the hardware detection and stuff like this ?
17:06 < blindy> for hardware detection you can already use rockplug
17:06 < blindy> automatically setting up the hardware is a different thing
17:06 < blindy> that would have to be done
17:07 < raga> I like the way how rock linux works 
17:07 < raga> I mean making your own distribution 
17:07 < raga> but it would be great if you could burn it to a Cd boot from it 
17:08 < raga> make some personal and computer related settings and copy it to the harddisk then.
17:08 < blindy> well, noone made something so far. BE THE FIRST TO DO IT! :)
17:08 < raga> How does rockplug work ?
17:08 < nookie_> fake is doing a rocklinux live-cd http://f4k3.net/~fake/rock-livecd/
17:09 < raga> thanks for that link. Could be a good entry point!
17:10 < raga> This would also work well for presentations of software products.
17:10 < raga> If the customer likes it -> just put it onto his harddisk :)
17:14 < blindy> I'm currently short before finishing a bootable Sparc64 version
17:15 < raga> woow, and how far are you ? 
17:18 < blindy> the machine boots fine
17:18 < blindy> only the console on /dev/ttyS0 won't do yet
17:19 < raga> and the hardare is recogniced dynamicall on bootup?
17:19 < blindy> meaning I have to boot from the debian install cd again and make sshd start during boot
17:19 < blindy> yes it is
17:19 < raga> what are you using for hardware detection during booting - rockplug ?
17:20 < blindy> yes
17:20 < raga> so it is able to recognice hardware and load the necessary drivers ?
17:21 < blindy> that's its purpose
17:21 < raga> Mybe I have to read the rockplug docu :)
17:21 < raga> Does anyone know how to reach fake ?
17:22 < raga> There is no mail address on his website.
17:22 < nookie_> raga: He's in the channel.
17:22 < nookie_> fake@f4k3.net or so.
17:22 < nookie_> dunno.
17:23 < raga> Have seen his name.
17:23 < raga> But he does not answer and I do not know how to contact him directly - I am quite new to chat :(
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17:54 < raga> notify clifford
18:11 < owl> remoin
18:20 < raga> moin ?
18:25 < owl> moin
18:26 < owl> = hello
18:28 < raga> ahh
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18:28 < owl> hi tcr 
18:29 < raga> fake ?
18:31 < tcr> moin all
18:33 < tcr> mnemoc, there?
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19:01 < netrunner> StefanG: where are you?
19:02 < StefanG> easterhegg
19:02 < netrunner> StefanG: where are you exactly?
19:02 < StefanG> sanifox is talking about survivel for nerds :)
19:02 < StefanG> sitting near tu the door
19:02 < netrunner> StefanG: you can meet clifford at the service centre :)
19:03 < StefanG> ok :)
19:03 < StefanG> you mean at the entrance?
19:03 < netrunner> StefanG: is the sanifox thing worth attending?
19:03 < StefanG> yes
19:03 < StefanG> very interesting
19:04 < StefanG> and funny :)
19:04 < StefanG> where are you at the moment?
19:04 < StefanG> <-- needs his coke and dont want to leave *g* :)
19:05 * netrunner sits at the service centre
19:05 < StefanG> hmmm
19:05 < StefanG> ok, im comming down :)
19:08 < StefanG> back :)
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19:49 < blindy> WEE!
19:49 < blindy> My ULTRASparc boots ROCK!
19:49 < blindy> including network and serial console :-)
19:51 < StefanG> fine :)
19:52 < blindy> too bad gcc can't compile Sparc64 kernel >_<
19:53 < StefanG> ohhh
21:23 < blindy> damn
21:23 < blindy> rxr: ping
21:48 < blindy> anyone here who knows his way through this strange gcc3.conf thing?
23:12 < rxr> rehi
23:12 < rxr> oh - hi blindy 
23:12 * rxr just did the first bluetooth steps ...
23:13 < netrunner> been bluejacked? ;)
23:13 < blindy> hi rxr
23:14 < blindy> rxr: I need to add egcs for sparc64 and am struggling with the gcc3.conf file
23:15 < rxr> blindy: nonsense
23:15 < rxr> gcc-3.2 works perfectly
23:15 < rxr> I run gcc-3.2.3 linux-2.4 and linux-2.6 on my U5 for months
23:15 < blindy> rxr: not at all
23:15 < rxr> egcs is higly unstable and the most ugly hack I ever saw
23:16 < blindy> I am not able to compile a 2.4.25 with gcc-3.2.3
23:16 < rxr> when you use egcs you need to disable module after module until you find a .config that does not ICE it ...
23:16 < blindy> hmmm worked just fine here
23:16 < rxr> when you need sparc64 you can get a CD
23:17 < rxr> it is just that sparc32 does not yet boot from CD - and runs unreliable ...
23:17 < rxr> you said you run on sparc-stations?
23:17 < blindy> I need sparc32, but my build-machine is a SunFire V100 which needs Sparc64
23:17 < blindy> the machines which will run productively will be SparcStation 20
23:18 < blindy> two small routers, nothing much
23:18 < rxr> this sunfire V100 is not a production machine?
23:18 < blindy> no
23:18 < blindy> I borrowed it from hannes
23:18 < rxr> oh - borrowed :-(
23:18 < blindy> but I might get one for myself
23:18 < rxr> I just wanted to ask if there are more non-used sparc64 boxes ...
23:19 < blindy> well, it is currently used for building rock ;)
23:19 < blindy> rxr: but please tell me, how did you get past make dep with gcc3.2.3 and linux-2.4.25?
23:20 < owl> moin
23:20 < blindy> gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.25-rock-orig/include -mmedlow -ffixed-g4 -S -o check_asm_data.s check_asm_data.c
23:20 < blindy> cc1: invalid option `medlow'
23:20 < blindy> owl: moin
23:21 < rxr> blindy: I have not yet tried 2.4.25
23:21 < rxr> blindy: but up to some other 2.4.2x kernel it worked
23:21 < rxr> and also any 2.6.x I yet tried worked
23:22 < rxr> I'm currently running 2.6.3 on both the U5 and the SS2
23:22 < blindy> rxr: I tried all from 2.4.18 to 2.4.26
23:22 < blindy> 2.4.25 obviously
23:22 < rxr> if you compile manually you might need to change the definitions in the Makefile to your cross-compiler
23:22 < rxr> inside rock it should work
23:22 < blindy> unfortunately, it didn't. It failed with the very same error
23:23 < rxr> I hope you are aware that you can not use a 32bit compiler for the 64bit kernel - you need a 64bit cross-compiler for the 64bit kernel ...
23:23 < rxr> I need to look - maybe some tiny bug crept into the source ...
23:23 < blindy> I assumed that the ROCK scripts create one for the kernel?
23:24 < blindy> or I just screwed up during configuration
23:24 < blindy> I'll try a native build now that the machine is running
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23:41 < tcr> mnemoc, ping
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