--- Log opened Don Apr 15 00:00:00 2004
--- Day changed Don Apr 15 2004
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00:28 < daja77> n8 you all
00:31 < tcr> gn8 daja77
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05:29 < nagi> moin
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05:32 < nagi> hi fake 
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07:11 < netrunner> moin
07:12 < nagi> hi netrunner 
07:44 < rxr> rehi
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09:19 < praenti> hi
09:20 < praenti> rxr: here at the moment? I have only 5 minutes
09:22 * praenti at work...
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10:02 < daja77> omg is this stupid, try the new amazon search engine and search for "the internet" and be surprised
10:03 < daja77> http://a9.com that is
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10:21 < blindy> moin
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10:51 < holyolli> moin
10:52 < tcr> How dumb must a admin be? http://www.lordofthemails.com/etc/shadow/ (given that this is no fake/honeypot)
10:52 < tcr> without the trailing slash, obviously
10:53 < blindy> ouch
10:56 < tcr> http://www.pageandandy.com/etc/shadow
10:57 * tcr grins.
10:57 < tcr> Gues how I came to those
10:58 < daja77> some guys in another chan already got some plain passwords out of this
10:58 < blindy> a9.com ?
10:59 < daja77> blindy: yep, amazon search engine
10:59 < blindy> thought so
11:00 < tcr> Actually, I used google
11:01 < tcr> Well, supposedly those people don't have really strong passwords
11:02 < daja77> nope
11:02 < daja77> you searched for /etc/shadow?
11:03 < tcr> intitle:"Index of..etc" shadow
11:04 * tcr questions in what channels daja77 resides, or better with what evil guys
11:04 < blindy> tcr: something along #rocklinux, I suppose
11:04 < daja77> hehe
11:04 < tcr> " You must be running a Microsoft Windows operating system in order to use Windows Update."
11:04 < tcr> *@!$"
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11:05 < holyolli> tcr: it's obvious: linux can't be updated with windows... ;-)
11:06 < tcr> Well, my brothers wants me to download some update. He doesn't have a connection to the internet... No idea whether microsoft offers _at all_ off-site updates
11:06 < holyolli> hm.
11:07 < tcr> Nevermind. me's setting a strong mark with his refferer by visiting microsoft.com ;)
11:08 < tcr> Hopefully they do statistics
11:08 < daja77> you mean you want to take the 1% hurdle?
11:10 < tcr> Yeah. I think we deserve that
11:22 < th> moin
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11:41 < tcr> moin th. Tinkered any further on the sound thingy?
11:49 < th> tcr: just got up.
11:49 < daja77> hehe
11:49 < th> tcr: i think it's time for breakfast
11:50 < th> it's been a good night.
11:51 < th> so back in some time....
11:52 < tcr> Granted
11:55 * netrunner yawns
11:56 < daja77> hi netrunner 
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12:18 < daja77> nice rh has updated subversion packages
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12:29 < tcr> re
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12:41 < nookie_> Hi
12:41 < nagi> hi nookie_ 
12:43 < nookie_> Hey nagi
12:43 < nookie_> Wie gehts?
12:44 < nagi> hmm. fear i'm alive. thx. you?
12:44 < nookie_> Fine, like ever. 
12:44 < nookie_> :)
12:45 < nagi> lucky man
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13:01 ::: Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux 2.0.0 released! http://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html
13:01 ::: Topic set by SMP  Mon Mar  8 01:33:41 2004
13:01 Users #rocklinux:
13:01 [ Aard    ] [ esden   ] [ mistik1  ] [ praenti] [ tfing] 
13:01 [ blindy  ] [ fake    ] [ mnemoc   ] [ rob    ] [ th   ] 
13:01 [ bluefire] [ Freak   ] [ nagi     ] [ rolla  ] [ togg ] 
13:01 [ BoS     ] [ holyolli] [ netcrow  ] [ rxr    ] [ true ] 
13:01 [ clifford] [ ija     ] [ netrunne1] [ SMP    ] 
13:01 [ daja77  ] [ JimBoy  ] [ netrunner] [ snyke  ] 
13:01 [ darix   ] [ k3t__   ] [ nookie_  ] [ StefanG] 
13:01 [ dsoul   ] [ luckz   ] [ plasma-  ] [ tcr    ] 
13:01 ::: Irssi: #rocklinux: 36 nicks (@/0 +/0  -/0)
13:01 ::: Channel #rocklinux created Sun Aug  3 22:11:35 2003
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13:03 < nookie_> Heya netrunne1. :)
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14:41 < daja77> moin tfing 
14:42 < nagi> hi daja77 && bye all
14:43 < daja77> hm?
14:44 < rolla> re
14:44 < daja77> hi rolla 
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15:12 < daja77> [root@linux45 rtrock]# scripts/Build-Target -cfg realtime -job 5-neon
15:12 < daja77> mount: mount point proc does not exist
15:12 < daja77> chroot: cannot execute bin/bash: No such file or directory
15:12 < daja77> O_o
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15:40 < netrunner> daja77: build dir not mounted/empty?
15:50 < daja77> not empty, but old layout i guess
16:10 < netrunner> shall I append HOME=$root/$prefix, or shall I patch the makefile and substitute HOME with PREFIX?
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16:19 < daja77> which package?
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16:41 < netrunner> transconnect
16:41 < netrunner> but I patch it now, because it does weird stuff anyway.
16:41 < daja77> holyolli: you here?
16:42 < rolla> yawn
16:42 < holyolli> daja77: jep.
16:42 < daja77> how is the status of the alpha port?
16:43 < rolla> ;)
16:43 < rolla> ROCK Linux 1.7-snapshot (2003/04/22)
16:44 < holyolli> glibc makes still trouble. i got some hdds from rolla this week and now i'm trying to move all essential services away from the alpha in order to use it for testing
16:44 < holyolli> when i have that done, i can also try to reinstall the machine, because i think most of the glibc-trouble is because of an old and f***ed up installation
16:44 < daja77> i was just asked if someone could use rock for alphas
16:45 < holyolli> i have some old stuff, but nothing from the 1.7 which could be named as 'stable' :(
16:46 < daja77> svn: invalid option: --duplicate
16:46 < daja77> Type 'svn help' for usage.
16:46 < daja77> >> ERROR Running 'svn merge --duplicate -r 2650:2753 svn://svn2.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-linux/trunk' !!
16:46 < daja77> what the hell is that
16:47 < rolla> holyolli: is the alpha port god ;)
16:47 < daja77> that's why I asked him
16:48 < holyolli> i'll probably need some help with that glibc-stuff...
16:48 < holyolli> but since i'm nearly unemployed now, i have some more time
16:49 < daja77> uh why that
16:49 < holyolli> daja77: i finished my 'ausbildung' (training?) and my company guaranteed me a job...but i have to wait, until they call me. and this will take approx. 2-3 years
16:50 < holyolli> so i'm now back at sysadmin and doing some project work - but not at an fixed employment
16:50 < daja77> aaargs this submaster thing si screwed up again
16:58 < daja77> this sucks
16:58 < daja77> me dumb
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17:11 < netrunner> hah, gotcha. 
17:14 * netrunner commiting transconnect. working smoothly with unison :)
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17:20 < daja77> svn: Working copy '/scratch/rtrock/target/bootdisk/sparc' not locked
17:20 < daja77> what does that mean
17:21 < daja77> it screws everything
17:21 < netrunner> hm, I guess your working copy is not locked ;)
17:21 < daja77> :p
17:21 < daja77> what means not locked
17:21 < netrunner> svn locks the directories you commit/update/sync to avoid races
17:22 < daja77> how do i get rid of this
17:22 < netrunner> hm, have you tried this svn cleanup (or however it was called)?
17:22 < daja77> yep
17:22 < tcr> daja77, That's most probably for atomic commitments
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17:23 < daja77> well there might be good reasons to do that, it is just annoying atm cos no sync or commit works due this
17:23 < daja77> and i haven't played with that dir
17:28 < mnemoc> moin
17:28 < th> hi mnemoc 
17:28 < daja77> hi mnemoc 
17:28 < th> mnemoc: do you have advanced alsa experience?
17:37 < daja77> .oO (is my perl too old for sm)
17:40 < mnemoc> th: nope, sorry
17:40 < mnemoc> hi th, daja77 :)
17:40 < th> mnemoc: no matter... hi anyways ;)
17:40 < mnemoc> =)
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18:05 < mnemoc> hm... silly question google and man don't want to answer me... how do i disable dns updates on dhcp3?
18:07 < th> ddns-update-style?
18:07 < mnemoc> found! :)
18:07 < mnemoc> none instad of 'no' :)
18:08 < mnemoc> 30 minutes to found that :(
18:08 < th> holy isc ;)
18:08 < mnemoc> there is any other dhcpd?
18:08 < th> sure
18:08 < netrunner> netcat ;)
18:09 < th> don't ask for details
18:09 < mnemoc> uhm
18:10 < netrunner> hm, when I am not mentioned in VOTECHECK, it means I do not have to bother testing the patch?
18:11 < mnemoc> it means you are just an slave and your vote is only a rised hand
18:12 * netrunner looks at his hand ...
18:13 * mnemoc tries to find an isc's dhcp replacement without luck
18:17 < mnemoc> th: can you guide me to some good dhcpd (not netcat)? please
18:18 < netrunner> MS DHCP Service
18:18 < th> mnemoc: sorry i can't
18:18 * netrunner hides
18:18 * mnemoc cries
18:18 < th> mnemoc: i'm using isc dhcps
18:18 < th> s,dhcps,dhcpd,
18:18 < mnemoc> what does netbsd uses?
18:20 < th> isc?
18:21 < mnemoc> :'(
18:21 < th> mnemoc: but - it's not _that_ bad as the bind is.
18:21 < th> well. it _is_ bad. but not THAT ugly
18:23 < mnemoc> it's odd to see only one implementation of a very common service as dhcp
18:46 < th> ack
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19:05 < Phantasus> hi
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20:52 < blindy> moin
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20:52 < freed_> hi all
20:58 < freed_> has linux a similar option as bsd kernel ? i mean IPSTEALTH
20:58 < blindy> never heard that
20:58 < blindy> what does it do?
21:03 < freed_> for example ttl remains unaffected
21:04 < freed_> you cant see router with traceroute
21:04 < blindy> I see
21:04 < blindy> hmm I know it can be done, but am unsure as to how. I'd say iptables
21:05 < blindy> iptables are used for most traffic manipulating things
21:05 < blindy> so I'd say that there's an option on doing that, too
21:06 < freed_> mmh oki i take a look on iptables
21:10 < freed_> i do not think iptables can it yet :(
21:12 < netcrow> you mean no icmp-answer?
21:12 < freed_> no
21:12 < blindy> netcrow: no. net seeing the router at all
21:13 < blindy> since the ttl isn't decreased, traceroute doesn't see that there's a machine at all
21:14 < tcr> freed_, google revealed http://www.faqs.org/docs/iptables/ttl-inctxt.html
21:15 < freed_> thx tcr
21:15 < netcrow> ok :-)
21:16 < freed_> thx @ll ;)
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21:28 < nagi> reh
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21:39 < asshole|universe> http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/0,1518,295383,00.html <-- WTF?!!!
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21:43 < nookie> asshole|universe: Stupid.
21:43 < nookie> I hate those ppl.
21:43 < nookie> They want to have money for _their_ mistakes.
21:44 < holyolli> it's like in the us...
21:45 < asshole|universe> yep. obviously this person was fat like a sumo-ringer... and has problems with herz-kreislauf... and blames haribo for that
21:46 < asshole|universe> yeah, but this fscking country called "germany" should see, that not everything from us is good... but no, those idiots, called politicans do what the dictator from us wants them to do. *explode*
21:52 < blindy> asshole|universe: sometimes I think you're only alive if you can rant about something :)
21:53 < holyolli> huhu blindy :)
21:53 < asshole|universe> yeah. that's true. what else i should be alive for? for being bored?
21:54 * blindy hands asshole|universe a 4-month's worth of "Lakritzschnecken" :-)
21:54 < blindy> hi holy :-)
21:55 < blindy> somehow that reminds me of the guy who used 4(!) packages of axe deo per day and died of poisoning from it
21:55 < blindy> makes a great entry in the Darwin Awards :)
21:55 < asshole|universe> thx, but i'm really hating lakritzschnecken. 
21:55 < blindy> asshole|universe: ack, I can't bring myself to eating them neither
21:55 < asshole|universe> hehe. 
21:56 < asshole|universe> better give me a mitsubishi eclpise in black ... with full extras... --> i will drive him agains the  next brigde. (and will have a nice car)
21:57 < blindy> I wouldn't give a full-featured blark Mitsubishi Eclipse to anyone
21:57 < blindy> but I'd love to get that yellow SEat Ibiza in front of my car dealer's :-)
21:57 < asshole|universe> why not?
21:57 < blindy> you _cant_ start this thing using the first gear
21:58 < blindy> the tires would be under such power that they wouldn't grip on the street :)
21:59 < asshole|universe> aeh. nah. at least in front of my house there's a sweet eclipse (not full-featured, but - eh, it's an eclipse *sabber*)
21:59 < blindy> for some time there's been a red Viper around here
21:59 < blindy> haven't seen it in some time, though :(
22:00 < blindy> http://www.xs4all.nl/~ruwestra/wallpapers/cars/dodge%20viper.jpg
22:00 < asshole|universe> i c. hm. but a viper doesn't look as great as an eclipse imho and - the eclipse costs (full-featured) about 26 000 $ ... not extremely much more than an audi
22:00 < blindy> that's what I call a _great_ car
22:01 < asshole|universe> nack
22:01 < blindy> ah
22:01 < blindy> you've got no sense of cars :P
22:02 * blindy runs
22:02 < asshole|universe> hehe. maybe. 
22:17 < blindy> anyway, gotta go to bed
22:17 < blindy> have to go to Siemens again tomorrow
22:17 < blindy> good night
22:18 < asshole|universe> gn8 blindy 
22:24 < netrunner> 4
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22:55 < netrunner> oups http://www.idefense.com/application/poi/display?id=101&type=vulnerabilities&flashstatus=false
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22:58 < tcr> I can live with that
22:58 < mnemoc> re
23:02 * netrunner sending a cdrom to tcr begging him to 'test' it :)
23:04 < tcr> I don't think you will ever put yourself into such effort, especially because the outcomes seems pretty narrow
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23:24 < clifford_> hi
23:24 < Phantasus> hi clifford
23:25 < clifford_> hi Phantasus.
23:25 < clifford_> anyone having gnomemeeting or alike running? I want to test it..
23:39 < th> clifford_: as long as i don't need a fast connection nor a microphone...
23:41 < netrunner> is there a package?
23:41 < darix> moin clifford_ 
23:42 < clifford_> netrunner: yes.
23:42 < darix> clifford_: i should congratulate from my co worker to the new layout =)
23:43 < clifford_> darix: congrats to your co worker for good taste. ;-)
23:43 < netrunner> hm, although I have a generic running here, it is not installed. rebuilding...
23:45 < netrunner> prima.  configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
23:48 < netrunner> clifford_: sorry, cannot help you there. the package obviously does not like me.
23:48 < clifford_> netrunner: ok. th is trying it already..
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23:49 * netrunner has a feeling that the menu has a bright blue like a monitore configured for too much alpha
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