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04:21 < nookie_> http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/04/17/1623200
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11:11 < netrunner> oh wow, many commit messages :)
11:50 * SMP gdb-debugging a kernel over ethernet
11:52 < rxr> hi
11:52 < rxr> SMP: oh - what problem do you track?
11:55 < SMP> DM_LIST_DEVICES ioctl chopping off the last character from an lv name under some circumstances
11:57 < netrunner> rxr: seems that my mine patch helped ;)
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12:28 < owl> moin
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12:30 < SMP> hmm, everything's alright at least until copy_to_user()
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12:58 ::: Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux 2.0.0 released! http://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html
12:58 ::: Topic set by SMP  Mon Mar  8 01:33:41 2004
12:58 Users #rocklinux:
12:58 [ _NULL_  ] [ darix ] [ luckz    ] [ nookie   ] [ snyke    ] [ true] 
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12:58 [ clifford] [ ija   ] [ netrunne1] [ rxr      ] [ togg     ] 
12:58 [ daja77  ] [ Lorini] [ netrunner] [ SMP      ] [ trekkie3k] 
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12:58 ::: Channel #rocklinux created Sun Aug  3 22:11:35 2003
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13:27 < netrunne1> argl, forgot to sync before applying smap journals :(
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14:02 < SMP> this is scary ...
14:03 < SMP> I see the stuff being passed out of the ioctl handler to copy_to_user() correctly, but when ioctl() returns in userspace, this one character is zeroed
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15:11 < blindy> moin
15:12 < daja77> moin blindy 
15:35 < nookie> Hi BoS^awk 
15:35 < nookie> Hi both
15:35 < nookie> I mean. :)
15:35 < daja77> O_o
15:35 < daja77> hi nookie 
15:37 < nookie> Hey daniel
15:37 < daja77> :p
15:38 * netrunner thinks about an option for mine to store removed packages in a gem
15:38 < netrunner> missed this several times.
15:39 < daja77> .oO (netrunner learns C ;)
15:42 * SMP 's brain melts
15:43 < daja77> too much sun?
15:45 < netrunner> are there objections against updating libpcap to 0.8.3 (from 0.7.2)?
15:46 < netrunner> could do update tcpdump -> 3.8.3 in the same step
15:46 < daja77> netrunner: i sent an update patch for tcpdump already
15:46 < SMP> update everything, we have many outdated packages
15:46 < netrunner> daja77: including libpcap?
15:47 < daja77> no, i oversaw that :(
15:47 < netrunner> SMP: I am a bit hesitating with libraries 
15:47 < daja77> SMP: ack
15:47 < netrunner> daja77: ah, yes, already smap'ed here :)
15:47 < daja77> netrunner: do so, there are security fixes in it, afaik
15:47 < SMP> netrunner: no, really, just do it and break it. the sooner the better
15:47 < daja77> :)
15:48 < SMP> maybe we should re-introduce the devlevel thing from 1.3 ...
15:49 < netrunner>  .o( damn, I just fixed something an hour ago and forgot to commit it ... what was it? )
15:49 < daja77> *gg*
15:49 < blindy> SMP: devlevel?
15:51 < netrunner> sm sent.
15:52 < SMP> blindy: increment a package's devlevel every time it gets updated, then you can check for package with devlevel 0 before making a release
15:53 < SMP> blindy: after (or before? don't remember) making a release, reset all devlevel to 0
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16:00 < netrunner> SMP: good idea, but couldn't that be done with svn log?
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16:00 < SMP> it won't really work anymore
16:01 < SMP> it worked when there were much fewer packages, just one maintainer, and when most packages could be updated frequently
16:01 < netrunner> aaa I hate packages that do that. "You have not made a port.mak file! See the installation instructions"
16:01 < daja77> due submaster
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16:05 * blindy just dumped ndiswrapper for ipw2100
16:05 * blindy is happy ^_^
16:06 * daja77 is happy not to need ndiswrapper
16:06 < blindy> I don't need it anymore :-)
16:07 < blindy> and throughput also increased by 50% :)
16:07 < daja77> which card?
16:07 < blindy> (should have done that earlier)
16:07 < blindy> PRO Wireless 2100
16:07 < daja77> hm what vendor is that
16:07 < blindy> Centrino
16:08 < blindy> Intel Pro Wireless 2100
16:08 < daja77> ah, there are native drivers available now?
16:08 < blindy> ipw2100.sf.net
16:08 < daja77> cool
16:08 < blindy> for some time already
16:09 < blindy> but I haven't had a need to switch away from ndiswrapper until today when it caused a kernel BUG upon loading
16:09 < daja77> had to bother with acx card but that works quite nice now
16:14 * blindy now trying to install ROCK on a software RAID5
16:16 < netrunner> damn, there are 2 libnet :(
16:17 < SMP> hmmm
16:18 < SMP> why haven't I sent package/stefanp/libnet ...
16:18 < netrunner> smp: which one do you have there? the packet constructing one or the packet shaping one? ;)
16:19 < mistik1> any of you guys write gtk in C?
16:19 < netrunner> == 16:16:17 =[9]=> Building base/libnet [1.1.2.1 2.1.0-DEV]
16:19 < netrunner> == 04/18/04 16:16:59 =[9]=> Finished building package libnet.
16:19 < SMP> netrunner: the packetfactory one
16:19 < daja77> i did some time ago *shameonme*
16:20 < SMP> netrunner: URL for the other one?
16:20 < SMP> netrunner: and why in base?
16:21 * daja77 thinks that there are other non base packages in base too
16:22 < netrunner> SMP: libnet.sf.net ... dunno
16:22 < netrunner> I could put it in avm, but don't really need it as It is required for the new version of ettercap I wanted to update to
16:22 < netrunner> devil's circle :)
16:24 < SMP> let me help you ...
16:24 < SMP> I'll put it into my repo ;>
16:24 < daja77> *ggg*
16:24 < tcr> mistik1, still around?
16:24 < mistik1> yea
16:25 < tcr> mistik1, when we talked last time, it seemed to me that you have collected some expierience with remote sound servers, is that right?
16:26 < mistik1> I've worked with them yes
16:26 < mistik1> now i'm trying to learn GTK and C and having a rough time of it
16:26 < mistik1> :(
16:27 < tcr> :P don't try to get me off from track
16:27 < mistik1> heh
16:27 < mistik1> what's up?
16:27 < tcr> I just looked at asd and while it seems to fullfill my needs, I'm not convinced of it in anyway
16:28 < mistik1> asd?
16:28 < mistik1> you mean esd?
16:28 < tcr> artsd, sorry
16:28 < mistik1> ok
16:28 < mistik1> artsd is a royal pain in the ass
16:28 < tcr> because of several factors like a) it seems to be stalled (and I don't think that a realtime sound synceziser is anytime "ready")
16:28 < tcr> b) the concept seems to be screwed up
16:29 < tcr> Ah, yeah I anticipated that
16:29 < mistik1> agreed on B totally
16:29 < mistik1> Its the most stupid concept of network audio available
16:30 < tcr> So, are there alternatives? Back to time I searched for solutions, I just came up with artsd and esd. The latter seemed to be stalled even more than artsd
16:30 < mistik1> what exactly are you trying to implement?
16:31 < tcr> Wait a sec, please. have to do sth
16:33 < tcr> Ok, back
16:33 < tcr> mistik1, Well nothing exaggerated
16:34 < tcr> mistik1, When I tinkered up my desktop pc there was no pci slot free for my soundcard. So I put it into another pc which mostly functions as server
16:34 < tcr> mistik1, now all I want is that this server pc is also responsible for playing sound
16:34 < mistik1> ok
16:35 < mistik1> I have one suggestion I can make on how it could be done and support arts at the same time
16:35 < tcr> Something which I didn't consider in any way awkward, and actually I thought that it was a common setup...
16:36 < mistik1> You should run NAS on the machine with the sound card but you need to rebuild arts on the machine without sound to support NAS
16:36 < tcr> what's nas
16:36 < mistik1> then you can set some env vars on the no card machine and arts will happilly play to the NAS machine
16:36 < mistik1> another network audio implementation
16:37 < tcr> Uh, but why arts then?
16:37 < mistik1> and arts can be built with support for NAS
16:37 < tcr> Ah.
16:37 < mistik1> just for compatibility reasons
16:38 < tcr> Well... the thing is that arts isn't a really transparent solution from what I read
16:38 < mistik1> lemme find the link to how my buddy does it for us at ltsp.org
16:38 < tcr> there's some art-wrapper command which uses LD_PRELOAD for overwriting sound specific routines or something
16:38 < tcr> Everything else than "clean" IMHO.
16:39 < tcr> Ok
16:39 < mistik1> http://www.ncpl.lib.in.us/~rjune/lbe/LTSP-arts-howto.html
16:39 < mistik1> the LTSP workstation would be representitive of the machine with the sound card in that doc
16:41 < mistik1> It also has links to the profile we use to setup the environment so it should get you started 
16:41 < tcr> Eh, do I need that ltsp stuff?
16:41 < mistik1> no
16:41 < mistik1> the document it simply ltsp specific
16:41 < mistik1> use it as a guide only
16:42 < mistik1> Its the method more so than anything else
16:43 < tcr> I'm in a little misere... watching DSP9 concurrently doesn't really let me concentrate ;)
16:43 < daja77> hehe
16:43 < mistik1> now about that GTK and C
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16:44 < mistik1> I really need some help
16:45 < blindy> hmm
16:45 < blindy> this looks doable
16:45 < mistik1> The trick is i'm trying to utalize a function from VNC in my program and I include the header but still get undefined reference to the function when I try to compile
16:46 < rxr> mistik1: you need to link against the library
16:46 < rxr> mistik1: -l<name> is your friend
16:47 < daja77> hi rxr
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16:47 < tcr> mistik1: try gcc `gtk-config ­­cflags`  `gtk-config ­­libs` *.c -o test.o
16:48 * daja77 slaps tcr for utf8
16:48 < mistik1> hmm
16:48 < tcr> daja77, :P
16:49 < tcr> Well, that what you may not be able to see are sticks
16:50 < daja77> dash?
16:50 < tcr> mistik1, aren't there any alternatives to artsd/esd?
16:51 < mistik1> tcr: MAS in on the horizon
16:51 < tcr> URL?
16:51 < mistik1> x.org
16:53 < tcr> I'm looking at ti
16:53 < tcr> it
16:53 < daja77> MAS?
17:03 < tcr> mistik1, Thanks for the point. I'll look closer at it later after star trek.
17:03 < mistik1> np
17:11 < blindy> tcr: nasd, although the only application using it is xmms
17:15 < _NULL_> moin
17:17 < cap> Owly
17:18 < _NULL_> hi cap 
17:18 < Lorini> hi cap
17:19 < cap> Hi Lorini.
17:24 < daja77> hi _NULL_, cap & Lorini 
17:24 < _NULL_> hi daja77 
17:24 < Lorini> huhu daja
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17:33 < cap> Moin daja77!
17:33 < daja77> :)
17:40 < tcr> Arghs, *@!" fuck fuck fuck!
17:40 < tcr> My friend's server (which I use) doesn't seem to have a proper reverse DNS setup
17:41 < tcr> GMX automatically rejects mails from senders which's ip address can't be reversed
17:41 < tcr> Have to have a little talk to my friend >:/
17:59 < blindy> not only GMX, but also sourceforge.net and others
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18:24 < blindy> can someone help me out with a little bash-magic?
18:24 < _NULL_> hi blindy 
18:24 < blindy> hu _NULL_ 
18:25 < blindy> need some help on variable scopes
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18:57 < blindy> hmm
18:57 < blindy> seems like I'm done with stone_mod_install.sh RAID support
19:42 < rxr> SMP: and did you cought your kernel prob already?
19:45 < SMP> yes, I think about 10 minutes ago
19:45 < rxr> ah - how lucky
19:45 < rxr> I'm still hacking to get functional IDE on the PPC board ...
19:46 < rxr> what was your bug ?
19:46 < SMP> I think it's a off-by-one in the param->data_size handling in dm-ioctl.c
19:49 < SMP> you only get caught if the end of your last string is aligned on an 8 byte boundary ...
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20:35 < netrunner> hehe, netsplit on idle-rpg makes everybody talk
20:49 < tcr> Wow. Social engineering of email wurms gets better and better
20:55 < SMP> no, it was not an off-by-one, they just forgot to allocate space for the terminating \00 after the names
20:58 < rxr> this sh*t f*cking IDE kernel code crap
20:59 < SMP> (but usually there would be space from the alignment overhead)
21:20 < _NULL_> oha. rxr !
21:23 < rxr> _NULL_: hm?
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21:25 < _NULL_> rxr: because of the sh*t f*cking IDE.. :p
21:25 < _NULL_> how are you?
21:26 < rxr> good aside non working Linux IDE code ... and you?
21:26 < _NULL_> well, good to hear that (expect of the code-thing). hm. dunno. alive. thx
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22:09 * A-Tui is away: ...saving the world before bedtime!
22:09 < daja77> good someone does the job
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22:12 < A-Tui> hard job
22:12 < daja77> :)
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22:14 < A-Tui> my dinner is ready, i think i will save the world after eat something
22:14 < A-Tui> cu
22:37 ::: A-Tui!~aitor@cable74a018.usuarios.retecal.es has quit: "Satanás, el infierno es demasiado dulce!"
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22:40 < MadTux> hi.
22:40 < daja77> hi MadTux :)
22:41 < MadTux> hello daniel
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22:44 < Sheng> hi
22:46 < daja77> hi Sheng 
22:46 < Sheng> hi, daja77.
22:46 < Sheng> how are you
22:47 < daja77> fine thx
22:47 < rxr> cu
22:47 < Sheng> what is this chat about?
22:47 < rxr> Sheng: ROCK Linux and it's use and development ;-)
22:47 < daja77> rocklinux
22:47 < rxr> godd night to all
22:47 < daja77> n8 rxr 
22:48 < Sheng> i just went to the site
22:48 < Sheng> ok
22:48 < Sheng> i hear thunderstorms
22:48 < daja77> hm?
22:48 < Sheng> it's going to rain tonight
22:48 < Sheng> good thing i bought a laptop
22:49 < Sheng> so i can be on when the power is off
22:49 < Sheng> ;)
22:49 < daja77> rain means poer off, where do you live?
22:49 < Sheng> upstate ny
22:49 < Sheng> every time there is some stupid wind or storm, power lines go down. it's pathetic
22:50 < Sheng> they're too dumb to bury powerlines underground
22:50 < daja77> O_o
22:51 < Sheng> like in europe or japan
22:51 < Sheng> you know?
22:52 < daja77> we have powerlines above the ground and some buried, but they work ;)
22:54 < StefanG> yes .. the last real power-problem was nearly 10 jears ago (where i life)
22:54 < Sheng> where are you?
22:55 < Sheng> the US has a terrible power infrastructure
22:55 < Sheng> it's a joke
22:55 < daja77> germany
22:55 < Sheng> everyone says america is so great, well, it's not really
22:55 < Sheng> unless you're really rich
22:55 < Sheng> i came from europe, and i liked living there better
22:56 < daja77> where did you come from?
22:56 < Sheng> poland
22:56 < daja77> ic
22:57 < Sheng> and that ain't great either, so what i say is even more disturbing
22:57 < Sheng> anyway
22:57 < Sheng> what's going on here tonight
22:57 < daja77> yep let's talk about why you came here
22:57 < Sheng> i wanted linux on dreamcast
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22:58 < Sheng> didn't find a burnable iso
22:58 < Sheng> so, i tried searching other channels
23:01 < Sheng> you there?
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23:02 < daja77> O_o
23:03 < StefanG> no comment :)
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