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--- Log opened Die Apr 20 00:00:33 2004 00:04 ::: valentin!~valentin@port-212-202-41-96.reverse.qsc.de has left #rocklinux: 00:04 < rxr> archlinux what 00:04 < rxr> Pupeno: sure this is what ROCK is for ... 00:05 < daja77> wb rxr 00:07 < rxr> yeah hi 00:07 < rxr> have I said how cool DSL@home can be ? ;-) 00:07 < Pupeno> arhclinux ? 00:08 < rxr> Pupeno: I also wonder ... 00:08 < daja77> dunno thought that was the name of the project which cloned the rock src 00:09 < Pupeno> rxr: what are you wondering ? 00:10 < daja77> ah i know why the patch doesn't apply 00:10 < rxr> Pupeno: only about this other *linux should should have been 00:10 < daja77> devfs is now enabled for sparc64 per default ... 00:12 < Pupeno> are you trying in any way to use linux 2.6 ? 00:12 < daja77> we have a package for 2.6.x kernels 00:13 < daja77> 2.6.5 in trunk now 00:13 < Pupeno> kewl :) 00:16 < rxr> Pupeno: I run 2.6.3 on all my SPARCs (even sparc32) - and occationally on my iBook - but it has some show stopper oddities only showing up on Apple hardware 00:17 < rxr> but ths Ultra SPARC I typo on runs 2.6 very happily 00:19 < Pupeno> I don't have anything but x86 here, no sparcs, no apples. 00:21 < rxr> 2.6 also runs on x86 ;-) 00:21 < rxr> *smile* 00:21 < daja77> yep but the defalut activation of framebuffer does not work on my laptop 00:21 < Pupeno> "The biggest difference is that Gentoo does not include a auto-build-system like ROCK. Each package needs a full .ebuild script where even the tar-balls are extract manually - and often even the resulting files copied by hand. Gentoo also hardcoded the dependencies - in ROCK they are determined automatically." 00:21 < SMP> quite lovely, I must add 00:22 < Pupeno> does this mean that Rock finds out dependencies by the ./configures of applications or something like that ? 00:22 < rxr> Pupeno: nope more advanced - by tracking file access in the sandbox 00:22 < daja77> and rockplug doesn't seem to find all my hw with 2.6, but i had no time to investigate this 00:22 < Pupeno> really, really intresting... I wonder why Rock is not more popular yet. 00:23 < rxr> because we do more development then PR ... :-( 00:23 < darix> daja77: we replaced hwinfo from rl with the one from suse. worked a bit better 00:23 < daja77> O_o 00:24 < darix> *wishes he could see the face irl* :) 00:24 < rxr> hwinfo what? 00:25 < daja77> well i haven't checked if all modules were available so i really can't tell if rockplug i to blame here 00:25 * SMP still using rockplug 0.0.99 with 2.6 00:26 < rxr> where .99 indicates a SMP version? 00:26 < SMP> no, it's plain vanilla from -er- 00:27 < SMP> 2003-07-24 00:27 < rxr> oeh - ha 00:27 < SMP> oh, wait 00:27 < SMP> I have upgraded 00:28 < SMP> 2003-08-14 ;-) 00:28 < rxr> the new ones do caching ... ;-) 00:28 < daja77> *gg* 00:28 < daja77> but it is still slow somewhat 00:28 < daja77> somehow 00:28 < rxr> hwscan2 is on my todo ... 00:29 < SMP> slow? I don't think this one is ... 00:29 < daja77> you mean that huge file? 00:29 < daja77> SMP: i tested recent versions :) 00:29 < rxr> hm - huge file? no - a hwscan in C implementation that will be used by rockplug for matching and is embedded compatible ... 00:29 < SMP> things almost always get slower ;-> 00:30 < daja77> rxr: i was refering to that huge file called TODO :) 00:30 < rxr> ah - yes 00:30 < SMP> oh btw. 00:30 < rxr> but hwscan2 is in the top quater 00:31 < SMP> rxr: can you please merge the mine update to 2.0? or at least the patch that fixes mine -r ? 00:31 < rxr> yes sure 00:31 < daja77> when will there be a 2.0.1? 00:32 < rxr> some weeks ago 00:32 < daja77> *ggg* 00:32 < rxr> ;-) 00:32 < rxr> I just had no time to test the final x86 iso so far 00:32 < rxr> (you know this x86 hardware lackage here ...) 00:32 < daja77> lol yes 00:33 < rxr> and now I want to polish the PowerPC embedded thing so we have full Motorola PowerPlus support in 2.0.1 00:33 < rxr> I ship a the next test ISO into US this night - and hope to have the final PowerPC ISO this weekend 00:33 < rxr> the system and install builds are already lingering around 00:33 < daja77> well wouldn't it make more sense to merge kernel updates and other security fixes in it before releasing 2.0.1? 00:33 < rxr> just some kernel initrd work to be done 00:34 < rxr> no I need to rebuidl too much 00:34 < rxr> I now release this and then we can push the next updates like kde 3.2.2 and the kernel stuff 00:34 < rxr> and release 2 or 3 weeks later 00:34 < daja77> but who should use that release 00:34 < rxr> we need to test those things a bit more in this stable tree ... 00:35 < rxr> if it has vital security flaws tell me - I'll merge those changes 00:35 < rxr> but just rebuild so much just for fun sucks 00:35 < rxr> + the possiblity to corrupt the build with those rebuild -newdeletes ... 00:35 < daja77> yep did this today 00:36 * daja77 testing linux-2.4.26 build atm 00:36 < rxr> it does work on PowerPC - at least on my embedded board ... 00:36 < daja77> there is an exploit in neon lib e.g. 00:37 < daja77> i haven't found an update patch in submaster for this :) 00:37 < daja77> think neon is a quick build, and it makes me feel more comfortable while using subversion with it 00:37 < darix> daja77: less than 5 mins 00:38 < rxr> yes - neon is ok 00:38 < darix> i updated my package =) 00:38 < rxr> IIRC there as a sm patch 00:38 < daja77> btw this patch needs a vote from you 00:38 < daja77> yep 00:39 < daja77> and maybe this libpacap/tcpdum thing 00:40 < rxr> daja77: nope the patch is +clifford it does not need my vote ... 00:40 < daja77> ah k. 00:41 * SMP slowly getting rid of JFS ... 00:41 < daja77> switching to? 00:42 ::: shiny!~vega@pD956099D.dip.t-dialin.net has joined: #rocklinux 00:42 < SMP> xfs mostly, some ext3 00:47 < Pupeno> don't you offer by any chance bittorrent to download rocklinux 2.0.0 ? 00:48 < daja77> we have noone who runs the tracker for that afaik, but it was planned to do that ... 00:49 < Pupeno> daja77: if you go to #bittorrent and ask for a borrowed tracker you're likely to get one, I did it before for arklinux ;) 00:50 < daja77> it would reduce rxr's traffic ^^ 00:50 < Pupeno> daja77: even so, the tracker doesn't consume much resources... what consumes more resources is the first and main point of download (i'll consume as much as the ftp server, but no more as people that are downloading the iso starts to give) 00:52 < Pupeno> and for users it is a great improvement as well, I'm currently downloading at 16kb/s, when using bittorrent (for ark for example, or knoppix), I always download at 26kb/s and upload between 2 and 5 or 6 kb/s (my ADSL can't handle more) 00:52 < Pupeno> and personally, when I like something, I leave my torrent open as much as I can. 00:52 < daja77> arklinux was this install linux with foru mouseclicks thingie? 00:53 < Pupeno> daja77: yes 00:53 < Pupeno> for my distro I want an installer more or less like that. 00:55 < daja77> we currently don't have such a thing 00:56 < Pupeno> I know... I'll code it if necesary... althou I prefeer to follow a path closer to Debian, making the installer a library where you can build a graphical or text installer arround it and with the level of customization that you want. 00:56 < rxr> Pupeno: we have a 155MBit main server 00:56 < rxr> Pupeno: just go and grab it there ... 00:57 < Pupeno> rxr: but I'm located in Argentina so the limitiation is not my local conection and not yours, but the *politics* in the middle, that's why distributed downloading systems almost always reach higher speeds. 00:57 < Pupeno> rxr: where is the main server located ? 00:57 < rxr> .de ... 00:58 < rxr> if you wait soem days you'll get 2.0.1, and maybe I found the time for some bittorrent stuff 00:58 < Pupeno> The Europe-America conexion tends to be slow, and I bet it is Europe-USA, USA-Argentina (in the best case), it coudl be Europe-USA, USA-Brazil, Brazil-Argentina... 00:58 < rxr> https://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/ftp/rock/stable ... should be the URL 00:58 < rxr> -- typos 00:59 < Pupeno> rxr: I'm currently download 2.0.0, I'll re-download 2.0.1 in the future, but I want to give it a chance ASAP, my distro agnostisism is killing me. 01:00 < Pupeno> do you have any possibility to i18nize package names and descriptions ? 01:01 < rxr> we currently do not do this - but of course such stuff could be added ... 01:01 < Pupeno> ok... :) 01:07 < Pupeno> I see that you have support for a lot of architectures, that's nice... that requires a lot of resources. 01:09 < daja77> not all of these ports are current unfortunately 01:11 < rxr> but those normally just need s.o. to press the compile button ... 01:19 < daja77> n8 01:19 < rxr> n8 daja77 01:33 ::: darix!darix@monsters.rsn.uni-rostock.de has quit: Remote closed the connection 01:34 ::: darix!darix@monsters.rsn.uni-rostock.de has joined: #rocklinux 01:39 ::: shiny!~vega@pD956099D.dip.t-dialin.net has quit: "Client exiting" 02:05 < rxr> me is shortly reviewing some papers 02:05 < rxr> back in approx 40 minuites 02:36 ::: plasma-!~foo@206.63.200.33 has joined: #rocklinux 02:41 < rxr> hi plasma- 02:41 < plasma-> hi rxr 03:06 < rxr> ok me off - cu 03:19 < rolla> re 03:58 ::: BoS!~bodo@dialin-212-144-017-168.arcor-ip.net has joined: #rocklinux 04:07 ::: nookie!~nookie@M395P016.adsl.highway.telekom.at has joined: #rocklinux 04:09 ::: BoS_!~bodo@dialin-145-254-078-128.arcor-ip.net has quit: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 04:14 ::: nookie_!~nookie@M260P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at has quit: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) 05:39 ::: Pupeno!~Give@host90.200-117-206.telecom.net.ar has quit: Remote closed the connection 05:44 ::: Pupeno!~Give@host90.200-117-206.telecom.net.ar has joined: #rocklinux 05:48 ::: Pupeno!~Give@host90.200-117-206.telecom.net.ar has quit: Client Quit 05:59 ::: Pupeno!~Give@host90.200-117-206.telecom.net.ar has joined: #rocklinux 07:10 ::: plasma-!~foo@206.63.200.33 has quit: "I'd rather be lucky than good" 07:38 ::: jgyaz!~gawlerj@az-yuma-cuda1x-38.losaca.adelphia.net has joined: #rocklinux 07:38 ::: jgyaz!~gawlerj@az-yuma-cuda1x-38.losaca.adelphia.net has quit: Client Quit 08:37 < netrunner> weee, now (after falling asleep yesterday) I can login to uml :) 08:37 < netrunner> well, I could If I had set a password :) 08:44 < Pupeno> Is there anything in Rock that isn't sphisticated and at the same time simple ? I mean, it seems a very, very good distro!!! I can't wait to give it a chance... well, a distro devel kit actually 08:46 < netrunner> it is not a distro. it is a distribution build kit. 08:47 < netrunner> :) 08:47 < netrunner> Pupeno: just start give it a try. and report bugs you find :) 08:47 < Pupeno> netrunner: that's what I've said at the end. 08:47 < Pupeno> netrunner: so far, it seems the best thing out there for what I want to do, so, it'll get my bugreports. 08:50 < netrunner> ok, didn't read until the end, was such a long line ;) 08:52 < netrunner> Pupeno: what are you currently running? 08:52 * Pupeno was often critized for writing long lines. 08:52 < Pupeno> netrunner: Ark Linux and I'm preparing a Gentoo to replace it. 08:52 < netrunner> Pupeno: better prepare ao ROCKLinux to replace it ;) 08:53 < Pupeno> I'm familiar with Gentoo... and I need it to work very soon... when I finish downloading Rocklinux I'll install it in a test box and start sperimenting, it might replace my current (At that time) Gentoo if I like it. 08:54 < netrunner> :) ok 08:54 < Pupeno> In fact, I want to make my own linux distro (Rock based, maybe) 09:22 ::: k3t_!k3t@p54804A62.dip.t-dialin.net has joined: #rocklinux 09:37 ::: trekkie3k!k3t@pD9E8FC1B.dip.t-dialin.net has quit: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 09:50 ::: togg!~togg@pD9E5BE63.dip.t-dialin.net has joined: #rocklinux 10:31 ::: netrunne1!~andreas@p50802C28.dip0.t-ipconnect.de has joined: #rocklinux 10:31 ::: Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux 2.0.0 released! https://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html 10:31 ::: Topic set by SMP Mon Mar 8 01:33:41 2004 10:31 Users #rocklinux: 10:31 [ _NULL_ ] [ darix] [ k3t_ ] [ netrunne1] [ rxr ] [ togg] 10:31 [ blindy ] [ dsoul] [ luckz ] [ netrunner] [ SMP ] [ true] 10:31 [ BoS ] [ fake ] [ mistik1] [ nookie ] [ StefanG] 10:31 [ clifford] [ Freak] [ mnemoc ] [ Pupeno ] [ tfing ] 10:31 [ daja77 ] [ ija ] [ netcrow] [ rolla ] [ th ] 10:31 ::: Irssi: #rocklinux: 27 nicks (@/0 +/0 -/0) 10:31 ::: [freenode-info] help freenode weed out clonebots, please register your IRC nick and auto-identify: https://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 10:31 ::: Channel #rocklinux created Sun Aug 3 22:11:35 2003 10:31 ::: Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 6 secs 10:40 ::: netrunner!~andreas@p50802AC8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de has quit: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) 11:11 ::: Lorini!~Andrea@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de has joined: #rocklinux 11:42 < rxr> re 11:42 < daja77> moin rxr 11:47 < rxr> hi daja77 --- Log closed Die Apr 20 13:27:18 2004 --- Log opened Die Apr 20 13:29:41 2004 13:29 ::: netrunner!~andreas@p50802D7E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de has joined: #rocklinux 13:29 ::: Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux 2.0.0 released! https://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html 13:29 ::: Topic set by SMP Mon Mar 8 01:33:41 2004 13:29 Users #rocklinux: 13:29 [ _NULL_ ] [ darix] [ k3t_ ] [ netcrow ] [ rxr ] [ togg ] 13:29 [ blindy ] [ dsoul] [ Lorini ] [ netrunner] [ SMP ] [ true ] 13:29 [ BoS ] [ fake ] [ luckz ] [ nookie_ ] [ StefanG] [ valentin] 13:29 [ clifford] [ Freak] [ mistik1] [ Pupeno ] [ tfing ] 13:29 [ daja77 ] [ ija ] [ mnemoc ] [ rolla ] [ th ] 13:29 ::: Irssi: #rocklinux: 28 nicks (@/0 +/0 -/0) 13:29 ::: Channel #rocklinux created Sun Aug 3 22:11:35 2003 13:29 ::: [freenode-info] help freenode weed out clonebots, please register your IRC nick and auto-identify: https://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 13:29 ::: Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 1 secs 13:30 < netrunner> re. anybody knows status of 'anders karlsson'? 13:31 < daja77> strange i can't remove the build dir due mount and now unmounted proc fs *grml* 13:32 < daja77> aaaaargs, no i can't believe this 13:32 < daja77> rm -rf build/$id killed the whole repository 13:33 < _NULL_> hmmm. guessing he's alive? 14:04 ::: tfing_!~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-1-253.w193-253.abo.wanadoo.fr has joined: #rocklinux 14:16 ::: netrunne1!~andreas@p50802839.dip0.t-ipconnect.de has joined: #rocklinux 14:16 ::: Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux 2.0.0 released! https://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html 14:16 ::: Topic set by SMP Mon Mar 8 01:33:41 2004 14:16 Users #rocklinux: 14:16 [ _NULL_ ] [ darix] [ k3t_ ] [ netcrow ] [ rolla ] [ th ] 14:16 [ blindy ] [ dsoul] [ Lorini ] [ netrunne1] [ rxr ] [ togg ] 14:16 [ BoS ] [ fake ] [ luckz ] [ netrunner] [ SMP ] [ true ] 14:16 [ clifford] [ Freak] [ mistik1] [ nookie_ ] [ StefanG] [ valentin] 14:16 [ daja77 ] [ ija ] [ mnemoc ] [ Pupeno ] [ tfing ] 14:16 ::: Irssi: #rocklinux: 29 nicks (@/0 +/0 -/0) 14:16 ::: Channel #rocklinux created Sun Aug 3 22:11:35 2003 14:17 ::: Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 11 secs 14:29 ::: netrunner!~andreas@p50802D7E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de has quit: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 14:42 < netrunne1> I mean is he still active on rl? 14:42 < netrunne1> +/nick netrunner 14:42 ::: You're now known as netrunner 15:11 ::: netrunner!~andreas@p508031CF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de has joined: #rocklinux 15:11 ::: Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux 2.0.0 released! https://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html 15:11 ::: Topic set by SMP Mon Mar 8 01:33:41 2004 15:11 Users #rocklinux: 15:11 [ _NULL_ ] [ darix] [ k3t_ ] [ netcrow ] [ rxr ] [ togg ] 15:11 [ blindy ] [ dsoul] [ Lorini ] [ netrunner] [ SMP ] [ true ] 15:11 [ BoS^awk ] [ fake ] [ luckz ] [ nookie_ ] [ StefanG] [ valentin] 15:11 [ clifford] [ Freak] [ mistik1] [ Pupeno ] [ tfing ] 15:11 [ daja77 ] [ ija ] [ mnemoc ] [ rolla ] [ th ] 15:11 ::: Irssi: #rocklinux: 28 nicks (@/0 +/0 -/0) 15:11 ::: Channel #rocklinux created Sun Aug 3 22:11:35 2003 15:12 ::: Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 6 secs 15:14 < daja77> netrunner: why? 15:14 < netrunner> because the webpage states he wanted to create a rock-uml. I just did so and wanted to compare with his results. 15:15 < netrunner> or avoid duplicate work as I want to create a scripts/Create-UMLroot_fs 15:15 < daja77> mail him 16:17 < netrunner> hihi "User requested a CTRL+C... (deprecated, next time use proper shutdown)" 16:46 < rxr> re 16:47 < daja77> rehi rxr 16:59 < mnemoc> moin 17:00 < daja77> hi mnemoc 17:00 < mnemoc> hi daja77 17:05 < rolla> re 17:07 < Pupeno> the network stuff seems very versatile... 17:09 ::: Pupeno!~Give@host90.200-117-206.telecom.net.ar has quit: "Give Peace A Chance https://www.pupeno.com" 17:10 < daja77> O_o 17:12 < mnemoc> shoot and run 17:22 * daja77 now burning src iso to restore build dir 17:23 ::: ija![3eRnvlbXE@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de has quit: Remote closed the connection 17:27 ::: ija![f538ttvCA@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de has joined: #rocklinux 17:28 < mnemoc> daja77: ija uses rock or she is here to control you? 17:28 < daja77> *ggg* 17:28 < ija> both :) 17:28 < mnemoc> :p 17:42 ::: blindy!~blindcode@p548039EE.dip.t-dialin.net has quit: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 17:43 ::: Aard!~bwachter@aardchat.net has joined: #rocklinux 17:43 < Aard> re 17:43 < daja77> moin Aard 17:43 < Aard> moin daja77 17:44 < mnemoc> moin Aard 17:59 ::: togg!~togg@pD9E5BE63.dip.t-dialin.net has quit: "leaving" 18:23 ::: blindcoder!~blindcode@p50801CBC.dip.t-dialin.net has joined: #rocklinux 18:24 < blindcoder> moin 18:24 ::: blindcoder is now known as blindy 18:39 < mnemoc> moin blindy 19:17 ::: Ankur!~Ankur@61.16.237.64 has joined: #rocklinux 19:28 < daja77> ui ich bin in den top10 19:28 < daja77> args wrong chan 19:33 ::: togg!~togg@pD9E5BE63.dip.t-dialin.net has joined: #rocklinux 19:50 ::: Ankur!~Ankur@61.16.237.64 has quit: "Leaving" 20:07 ::: nookie!~nookie@M395P005.adsl.highway.telekom.at has joined: #rocklinux 20:11 < rxr> top10 of what? 20:11 < daja77> idlerpg *gg* 20:15 ::: Lorini!~Andrea@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de has left #rocklinux: "Irre explodieren nicht, wenn das Sonnenlicht sie trifft, ganz egal, wie irre sie sind." 20:24 ::: nookie_!~nookie@M213P002.adsl.highway.telekom.at has quit: Connection timed out 20:34 ::: blindy!~blindcode@p50801CBC.dip.t-dialin.net has quit: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) 20:34 ::: blindcoder!~blindcode@p50801CBC.dip.t-dialin.net has joined: #rocklinux 20:35 < blindcoder> fuck 20:35 ::: blindcoder is now known as blindy 20:36 < daja77> whom? 20:37 < blindy> Tanja :) 20:37 < blindy> nah, just shut down the wrong machine 20:38 < daja77> *ggg* 20:38 ::: LocalHero!~alex@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se has joined: #rocklinux 20:39 < LocalHero> Hi all 20:39 < LocalHero> Finaly my irc client is working ;) 20:39 < daja77> hi LocalHero 20:39 < daja77> wow 20:40 < LocalHero> I installed java support for mozilla on my rock 2.0 box and it complains about missing libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 file :(. Whats that from? gcc? 20:40 < blindy> LocalHero: you can just symlink that 20:40 < blindy> or better 20:41 < blindy> use the Java from blackdown.org 20:41 < daja77> who needs java for irc 20:41 < LocalHero> blindy: oki, to what file should i do a symlink. 20:42 < LocalHero> blindy: Does blackdown have browser applet support for mozilla? 20:42 < blindy> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/2.95.3/libstdc++-3-libc6.3-2-2.10.0.so 20:42 < blindy> LocalHero: yes 20:42 < LocalHero> daja77: Well, that wasnt part of my irc problem. My kde was a bit, hmm, lets say unstable ;) 20:43 < daja77> why is all commercial crap linked against that old fscking lib 20:43 < daja77> due java? 20:43 < LocalHero> Ahh, oki now i get it. I only have gcc 3.2.3 installed so i have no 2.95.3 dir :(.. Strange? 20:44 < blindy> daja77: because some project maintainers treat backward-compatibility as a bug 20:45 < daja77> no because they've never heard about static linking 20:45 < daja77> or of releasing more often 20:45 < blindy> I'm no friend of static linking in a non-special system 20:47 < LocalHero> Hmm, will there be trouble if i install gcc 2.95.3 also? 20:50 < daja77> blindy: if you think you'll have to deliver closed src sw to linux, static linking is what I prefer to avoid such crap like described above 20:50 < daja77> this symlinking stuff does not always work 20:51 < LocalHero> Oki, the drock 2.0.1 cd's doesnt contain anything except gcc3. Looks like i have to compile it from source :( 20:51 < valentin> LocalHero: why would you want to do that ? 20:51 < LocalHero> valentin: i have no gem file? 20:52 < valentin> no, i mean, why do you need gcc 2.9x ? 20:52 < LocalHero> to get the stdc++-libc needed by mozilla java plugin 20:52 < daja77> LocalHero: i have gcc 2.95 and the lib doesn't fit either 20:52 < valentin> ah, i see its c++ not c. Well, then this might be a problem 20:53 < LocalHero> daja77: oki, then i better try the blackdown thing 20:53 < daja77> yep 20:54 < valentin> or boycot java. 20:54 < daja77> *ggg* 20:55 < LocalHero> valentin: hehe, well sometimes you dont have a choice :) 20:55 < valentin> on my iBook i do not have any java stuff either. 20:55 < blindy> I already boycot macromedia 20:55 < valentin> yep 20:56 < blindy> have to focus :) 20:58 < rxr> LocalHero: have you tested the incoming 2.0.1 ISO ? 20:58 < daja77> blindy: hehe 21:00 < LocalHero> rxr: Im running dRock 2.0.1 athlon-Xp right now. Its eric heatons build i think 21:00 < LocalHero> Works great ;) 21:01 < LocalHero> But i must admit that im running konstruct and garnome to get the latest so i have done mine -r gnome* kde* 21:03 < LocalHero> blindy: wahoo, now java works :) 21:05 < blindy> ;0 21:05 < blindy> :) 21:12 * blindy gone 21:51 ::: Pupeno!~Give@host90.200-117-206.telecom.net.ar has joined: #rocklinux 21:54 ::: LocalHero!~alex@i301-1.vildanden.afb.lu.se has left #rocklinux: "Kopete 0.8.2 : https://kopete.kde.org" 22:13 < rxr> cu 22:36 < valentin> back in a minute... 22:36 ::: valentin!~valentin@port-212-202-41-96.reverse.qsc.de has quit: "leaving" 22:36 < mnemoc> https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.txt <-- 404??!! 22:38 ::: valentin!~valentin@port-212-202-41-96.reverse.qsc.de has joined: #rocklinux 22:38 < valentin> re 22:39 < mnemoc> anyone knows why the txt version of gpl is no longer available at gnu.org? 22:45 < valentin> lgpl.txt is missing too, fdl.txt is still available 22:49 < valentin> https://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.txt ;) 22:50 < valentin> perhaps someone forgot to update the link 22:50 < mnemoc> oh 22:51 < mnemoc> thanks :) 22:56 < daja77> hehe they switch to docbook and are doomed 22:57 < Pupeno> gnu.org is using docbook now ? 22:58 < daja77> i was joking ... 23:01 < mnemoc> bad joke :( 23:02 < daja77> <- evil 23:02 < daja77> hey the hacker dictionary already switched to docbook, but what would you expect from ramyond 23:09 < mnemoc> :( 23:10 < _NULL_> hi! 23:11 < daja77> mnemoc: hehe guess you like this l33t technology 23:11 < daja77> hi owl 23:11 < mnemoc> daja77: of course, i notice a good technology quickly 23:12 < _NULL_> hi daja77 !!! 23:12 < _NULL_> *lalala* i have my notebook back *jump around* 23:13 < daja77> mnemoc: *ROFL* 23:14 < daja77> _NULL_: like to see me, how comes 23:16 < mnemoc> _NULL_: i have no computer at home :) 23:16 < _NULL_> hm? how does what come? *confused* 23:16 < daja77> https://stelb.de/builtforthekill.jpg 23:17 < _NULL_> mnemoc: oha. i would die without my pcs 23:17 < mnemoc> it's very hard to support this kind of life :( 23:18 < _NULL_> hmmm. 23:18 < mnemoc> computer-less life 23:19 < _NULL_> but why not change it? 23:19 < mnemoc> damn money :( 23:19 < _NULL_> ah so. i c. 23:24 < _NULL_> *gnarf* *waiting impatentiley for contact-lenses* 23:26 < mnemoc> use the big-sexy ones :) 23:27 < _NULL_> hoeh? 23:28 < _NULL_> you can't see them, when i'm wearing them :) but i just ordered them last friday and will get them somewhen during this week... 23:36 ::: Mash3out!~mash3out@62.68.94.16 has joined: #rocklinux 23:38 < _NULL_> hi Mash3out 23:39 ::: Mash3out!~mash3out@62.68.94.16 has quit: Excess Flood 23:39 < _NULL_> O_o 23:40 ::: Mash3out!~mash3out@62.68.94.16 has joined: #rocklinux 23:40 < daja77> strange chanlist had this guy 23:40 ::: Mash3out!~mash3out@62.68.94.16 has quit: Client Quit 23:41 < _NULL_> why? 23:41 ::: Mash3out!~mash3out@62.68.94.16 has joined: #rocklinux 23:41 ::: Mash3out!~mash3out@62.68.94.16 has quit: Client Quit 23:41 < _NULL_> in - out - in - out. douh. guess this guy is mixing something up 23:42 ::: Mash3out!~mash3out@62.68.94.16 has joined: #rocklinux 23:43 ::: Mash3out!~mash3out@62.68.94.16 has quit: Excess Flood 23:43 < _NULL_> *grunz* 23:43 ::: Mash3out!~mash3out@62.68.94.16 has joined: #rocklinux 23:44 < valentin> hi Mash3out - hadn't seen you around for a long time ! 23:46 < _NULL_> so, i'm going to enjoy the silence of my bed. good night. 23:48 ::: Mash3out!~mash3out@62.68.94.16 has quit: Client Quit 23:50 < mnemoc> gn8 _NULL_ 23:51 * daja77 rerunning sm creat :( 23:52 < mnemoc> :( 23:52 < mnemoc> your fault or self destruction? 23:52 < daja77> see bug #219 23:55 < mnemoc> ./script/Cleanup :) 23:55 < mnemoc> mount --bind has a little implicit danger 23:56 < daja77> i just wanted to remove one build, where -full removes all, and I was told rm -rf build/$id is safe 23:56 < mnemoc> it's not :( 23:57 < mnemoc> grep $id /proc/mounts 23:57 < daja77> maybe the Cleanup script should have an id parameter to safely remove one build 23:58 < mnemoc> yep 23:58 * daja77 burnt download dir on cd at work to restore it quickly 23:58 < mnemoc> btw, can't you rebuild your $foo using $foo.sm ? 23:59 < mnemoc> or it's gone too? 23:59 < daja77> yeah I noticed >_< 23:59 < mnemoc> :) 23:59 < daja77> no it the master copy is there but there is no way to restore it, cos svn up or sth doesn't work on this --- Log closed Mit Apr 21 00:00:11 2004