--- Log opened Mit Apr 21 00:00:12 2004
00:01 < mnemoc> oh
00:02 < daja77> you can't even restore a deleted directory in that submaster thing like you could do in subversion
00:03 < mnemoc> that deserves an email
00:04 < valentin> good night.
00:04 < mnemoc> n8 valentin 
00:08 < tfing> mnemoc: doing a svn co file:///$foo.sm will rebuild your $foo
00:09 < tfing> mnemoc: doing a svn co file:///$foo.sm/SVN will rebuild your $foo
00:09 < mnemoc> s/mnemoc/daja77/g :)
00:10 < daja77> nice, anyway I lost my configs and downloads which hurts much more
00:11 < tfing> <mnemoc> btw, can't you rebuild your $foo using $foo.sm ? <- i was answering that
00:12 < daja77> but it was me you needs that info ^^
00:13 < tfing> erf ;)
00:41 * daja77 wondering why the security fixes are still not applied
00:46 < mnemoc> "they are being tested to not apply anything broken to trunk"
00:47 < daja77> i've sent tested updates ...
00:47 < mnemoc> that's not enough
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01:36 < Pupeno> does anybody have experience with ACL ?
01:54 * Pupeno triest to do a chrooted install...
01:55 < Pupeno> how do I started a chrooted install ?
01:55 < Pupeno> how do I start a chrooted install ?
02:08 < Pupeno> anybody here ?
02:09 < Pupeno> my iso image is badly corrupted, does anybody know the rsync command to repair it ?
03:42 < Pupeno> nobody here ?
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06:43 < nagi> moin
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07:30 < Pupeno> hi nagi
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08:38 < netrunner> moin
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09:36 < netrunner> Laptop mode will be merged into Linux 2.6.6! 
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10:14 < valentin> good morning everybody
10:17 < netrunner> hi valentin
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12:00 < daja77> .oO (this expython package sucks)
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12:07 < netrunner> anyody knows why my bind only answers every 2nd and following request, and times out for the first?
12:09 < daja77> your bind is female, and too proud of awnsering the first time
12:11 * daja77 hides
12:13 < netrunner> hm, the first forwarder is broken
12:14 < BoS> telekom?
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12:40 < rxr> hi
12:41 < BoS> re
12:46 < nagi> moin
12:46 < nagi> daja77: *kick* 
12:48 < netrunner> BoS: yeah, they must have changed the ip long time ago (had this phenomenom earlier)
12:48 < netrunner> nagi: stop kicking daja! *kick*
12:49 < rxr> daja77: I now got a positive response from them - I fwd it to you - maybe you should finally send them your "about" text ....
12:50 < nagi> netrunner: *rekick* no, :p 
13:20 < rxr> this shit damn f*cking *grmbl*
13:21 < rxr> I left out one (1!) GND pin on this compact PCI board - and this one is the one used as board select (BD-SEL_L) on High Availabilty boards when they are hot-swapped
13:21 < rxr> and so I searched two (2!) day for the bug ....
13:21 < rxr> grmpbl
13:22 < rxr> at least now I studied so much cPCI stuff that I could design a board myself ...
13:47 < darix> rxr: where can i add static routes i want to have enabled on bootup?
13:50 < darix> i guess hook scripts are needed.
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14:02 < rxr> darix: you mean in ROCK Net ?
14:03 < darix> yes.
14:03 < darix> rxr: what else?:)
14:03 < rxr> hm - we do not seem to have a keyword for it ...
14:03 < rxr> I'll add it ...
14:04 < darix> rxr: hmm it would be more like 
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14:04 < darix> a config 
14:04 < darix> for adding more than one route :)
14:04 < rxr> yeah sure
14:04 < darix> and e.g modify metric and all the shit:)
14:04 < rxr> I think it should just like:
14:04 < rxr> interface eth3
14:04 < rxr> ip bla-bla
14:04 < rxr> route the route you want metric 4
14:05 < rxr> correct?
14:05 < darix> hmm
14:05 < darix> route <target> via <gate> metric <#>
14:05 < darix> so far.
14:05 < rxr> yes - exactly
14:05 < rxr> I'll add it now
14:05 < darix> or just 
14:05 < darix> route <target> metric <#>
14:05 < darix> and the ip route call would be
14:05 < rxr> until it showes up in trunk (takes some days via submaster) just use
14:06 < daja77> lol
14:06 < darix> ip route add <target> metric <#> dev <dev>
14:06 < darix> daja77: why do you laugh?
14:06 < rxr> run-up up route add <target> metric <#> dev <dev>
14:06 < daja77> cos of the submaster bashing, don't worry
14:06 < rxr> oops -- the up
14:06 < rxr> run-up iup route add <target> metric <#> dev <dev>
14:07 < rxr> daja77: not bashing - just facts
14:07 < daja77> rxr: i know
14:07 < rxr> damn can't I copy and paste, last try:
14:07 < rxr> run-up ip route add <target> metric <#> dev <dev>
14:07 < darix> rxr: can i have multiple runup?
14:07 < darix> :)
14:07 < rxr> sure
14:07 < rxr> I add the route keyword now, too
14:07 < rxr> into ROCK Linux and the Handbook
14:07 < rxr> darix: thanks for the pointer
14:08 < darix> np
14:08 < rxr> I'm back in some minutes when I got some new foods
14:08 < rxr> cu
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14:13 < nagi> hi hannes_ !
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14:30 < nagi> http://www.freenet.de/freenet/nachrichten/brennpunkt/ebay_maedchen/index.html O_o
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14:55 ::: Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux 2.0.0 released! http://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html
14:55 ::: Topic set by SMP  Mon Mar  8 01:33:41 2004
14:55 Users #rocklinux:
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14:55 [ blindy  ] [ Freak   ] [ mnemoc   ] [ rolla      ] [ togg    ] 
14:55 [ BoS     ] [ hannes_ ] [ nagi     ] [ rxr        ] [ true    ] 
14:55 [ clifford] [ holyolli] [ netcrow  ] [ SMP        ] [ valentin] 
14:55 [ daja77  ] [ ija     ] [ netrunne1] [ StefanG    ] 
14:55 [ darix   ] [ k3t__   ] [ netrunner] [ SystemCalls] 
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14:57 < mnemoc> moin
14:58 < rxr> re
14:58 < rxr> moin mnemoc 
14:58 < mnemoc> hi rxr
15:04 < daja77> hi mnemoc 
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15:05 < mnemoc> hi daja77 
15:08 < mnemoc> has 'known' a plural?
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15:09 < SMP> yes, 'known'
15:09 < daja77> :)
15:09 < mnemoc> thanks :) tha't easy to remember :)
15:09 < rxr> hi SMP 
15:20 < rxr> .oO why has the hot swap controler -12V on the 12Vin pin ....
15:20 < rxr> ?!?! :-(
15:20 * rxr nowadays I do too much hardware stuff ...
15:22 < rxr> ough - my fault ... - damn >80 cables on the connector ...
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16:14 < darix> rxr: is this valid:
16:14 < darix> interface eth0
16:14 < darix>     udhcp_client
16:14 < darix>     ip 192.168.0.1/24
16:14 < darix>     run-up ip route add 0.0.0.0 via 192.168.0.2 metric 1
16:14 < darix>     run-up ip route add 192.168.42.0/16 via 192.168.0.3
16:14 < darix> ?
16:17 < rxr> udhcp_client is a custom keyword introduced by yourself?
16:19 < darix> rxr: yes.
16:19 < darix> rxr: in general the same as dhcp
16:19 < darix> just calls another binary.
16:19 < darix> rxr: i mean can this collide? or does rocknet wait until dhcpcd got an ip?
16:23 < rxr> hm  - not it will not wait
16:23 < rxr> looks valid
16:24 < darix> i wonder if it the dhcp client will drop ips 
16:24 < darix> if i add them
16:24 < darix> i think we have to test that
16:24 < rxr> yes - depends on the client
16:34 < darix> <Jaeger> whats an oxymoron
16:34 < darix> <Edgy> Microsoft Works
16:57 < Pupeno> at last, installing rock... well, drock.
16:58 < daja77> hi Pupeno 
16:58 < Pupeno> hi daja77
16:58 < Pupeno> daja77: do you know what tarballs or anything I should use to make a chrooted install from my working distro into my spare partition ?
17:02 < daja77> hm just installing from cd?
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17:04 < Pupeno> daja77: from the cd ?
17:04 < Pupeno> I mean to install without the cd.
17:04 < rxr> why?
17:04 < Pupeno> rxr: because I don't want to stop my workstation while installing like I didn't stop my workstation while installing Gentoo.
17:05 < Pupeno> rxr: I thought it was possible due to rocklinux chrooted install (similarity to Gentoo)
17:06 < Pupeno> when I reach kbd the cd is umounted and then the installation starts to fail.
17:06 < Pupeno> not being able to install kde-i18n-de and so on, nothing... what's wrong ?
17:08 < rxr> Pupeno: you need to be more specific
17:08 < rxr> 17:08 < Pupeno> when I reach kbd the cd is umounted and then the installation
17:08 < rxr>                 starts to fail.
17:08 < rxr> ^- what do you mean?
17:09 * rxr is shortly away doing some cooking ...
17:09 < Pupeno> rxr: Installing from the CD (drock), it goes installing all the packages untill it reaches the kdb package after installng it it says
17:09 < Pupeno> . /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/cd umounted
17:09 < daja77> yep insert disc #2 and continze
17:09 < daja77> continue
17:10 < Pupeno> Can't find: /mnt/source/2.0.0-rc5-x86-penitum-mmx-32-desktop-expert/pkgs/kde-i18n-de-3.2.0.gem
17:10 < Pupeno> daja77: ok... then there's a bug because it asks for Disk #0...
17:10 < Pupeno> anyway, I don't have that iso, I thought installing from CD 1 would have been enough :(
17:11 < daja77> no it is not, you need all discs
17:11 < Pupeno> ok...
17:11 < valentin> unless you only install those packages lexicographicaly smaller than kbd ;)
17:11 < Pupeno> if I do the minimal install, do I need them ?
17:12 < daja77> yes the linux24 package is on disc #2
17:12 < Pupeno> brb
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19:04 < fake> phew... openbsd 3.5 will be a hell of an OS...
19:09 < daja77> hm?
19:12 < nagi> re
19:15 < darix> daja77: the other half is in os/2
19:19 < Pupeno> fake: why ?
19:32 < mnemoc> darix: that was an strange joke
19:33 < SMP> Pupeno: http://www.openbsd.org/35.html
19:33 < SMP> Pupeno: especially pfync and carp, from my point of view
19:34 < SMP> pfsync
19:38 < daja77> sounds nice
19:39 < nagi> hmm. is there a diverence between macppc and ibmppc??? 
19:39 < mnemoc> the prefix?
19:40 < nagi> hehe. and nothing else?
19:40 < mnemoc> the prefix?
19:40 < mnemoc> :)
19:40 < nagi> hmmm. dunno
19:40 < mnemoc> SMP knows, ask him :p
19:41 < nagi> hmmm. ok. 
19:51 < fake> yeah, more privsep, a very funny poster and amd64 support
19:51 < fake> <- art n00b, monet?
19:51 < daja77> hehe the poster is the best part
19:52 < mnemoc> links doesn't show the poster :'(
19:53 < daja77> you need X, I told you :)
19:54 < mnemoc> :(
20:08 < SMP> the song is even better ;)
20:09 < daja77> *ggg*
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20:12 < mnemoc> a release with a song?
20:12 < daja77> they always release with a song
20:13 < mnemoc> oh
20:14 < SMP> actually, since 3.0 or 3.1
20:15 < SMP> ah, 3.0
20:16 < daja77> *gg* so they still need some release before publishing an album
20:16 < mnemoc> =)
20:17 < daja77> oh nice there are rtai patches for 2.6
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20:19 < fake> where is the song?
20:28 < mnemoc> OT: how can i do `cat <<-EOT` honor \t (tabs) ?
20:28 < fake> apropos carp: https://https.openbsd.org/images/tshirt-21b.gif
20:28 < fake> *lol*
20:28 < fake> Ctrl+V+T?
20:29 < fake> aeh
20:29 < fake> Ctrl+V+<tav>
20:29 < fake> *sigh* -_-. tab.
20:30 < daja77> hi fake btw
20:30 < fake> hi!
20:30 < fake> blindy: here?
20:30 < tcr> mnemoc, $(echo -e "\t")
20:30 < mnemoc> :(
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20:31 < fake> TAB="press: <Ctrl>+<v>+<Tab> here..."
20:31 < fake> echo $TAB
20:31 < rolla> fake: are O2 supported?
20:32 < mnemoc> what's ^v ?
20:32 < fake> no idea... ?
20:32 < tcr> mnemoc, well.. you can make use of bash's $'' feature, too
20:32 < rolla> O2's that is
20:32 < rolla> okay
20:32 < fake> mnemoc: take next control sequence as text input
20:32 < fake> o2: hardly, afaik
20:32 < mnemoc> oh
20:33 < fake> "Unsupported / Legacy support only"
20:33 < fake> mnemoc: you can finally match 
20:33 < fake> ^M in vi with this ;)
20:34 < fake> <ctrl><v>+<ctrl><m> ;)
20:35 < mnemoc> oh
20:35 < mnemoc> this has open a new door to me
20:42 < nagi> bye, bye
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21:06 < fake> SMP: what is the openbsd equivalent to a bind mount? union?
21:06 < fake> narf
21:06 < fake> stupid me.
21:07 < fake> echo "use symlinks if possible, stupid" >> /dev/brain
21:35 < togg> hey all
21:36 < togg> when will be the xorg-x11 package in svn and not only in submaster?
21:37 < daja77> when clifford commits it
21:37 < fake> as soon as someone eager to get it in sends _tested_ smap journals to clifford
21:37 < togg> hmm
21:37 < togg> i never heard of xmap journals
21:37 < togg> smap
21:38 < SMP> it's a tool used together with submaster
21:39 < togg> so someone has to do it ;)
21:40 < SMP> I was hoping to get a build with X.org running later this week
21:41 < togg> are there problems with it?
21:42 < togg> it shouldnt differ much from xfree 
21:42 < togg> except config changes and path layout
21:43 < SMP> I think there are no problems known
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22:18 < netrunner> re
22:18 * netrunner today bought a pair of sennheiser px 100 headphones. sound really cool. and have a nice case.
22:30 < rxr> rehi
22:30 < rxr> SMP: kphone is a joke - why did you package it?
22:31 < SMP> joke?
22:31 < valentin> ack. It misses connection termination and crashes often.
22:31 < SMP> that's better than linphone then ;)
22:31 < rxr> *lol*
22:31 < rxr> a
22:31 < rxr> b
22:31 < rxr> just a latency test ...
22:32 < valentin> and still better then ohphone which consumes all the resources it gets...
22:33 < rxr> daja77: we just CC'ed you an mail ..
22:34 < SMP> and kphone is the only free SIP softphone I know of, that does STUN, symmetric signalling, symmetric media and SIP over TCP
22:34 < SMP> without that, SIP is almost as unusable as H.323
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