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--- Log opened Fri Apr 23 00:00:00 2004 00:39 -!- BoS [~bodo@dialin-145-254-190-242.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 00:41 -!- BoS [~bodo@dialin-145-254-190-242.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 03:24 < rolla> re 03:37 < mnemoc> any flex guru awake? 04:07 < nookie_> n8i :) 04:09 < mnemoc> n8 n0 04:10 < mnemoc> uhm... your nick is with 'o' today :( 04:11 -!- nookie [~nookie@M215P016.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 04:27 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M472P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:52 -!- MadTux [~mike@200.116.1.111] has joined #rocklinux 05:52 < MadTux> hi. 06:06 < nagi> hi MadTux 06:07 < MadTux> hi nagi 06:08 * nagi = owl, btw 06:09 < MadTux> *HUG* 06:09 < nagi> *rehug* 06:09 < nagi> how are you? 06:10 < MadTux> good... tired 06:14 < nagi> hmm. ok. i'm going offline, again, now. 06:14 < nagi> bye. 06:39 -!- MadTux [~mike@200.116.1.111] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:39 -!- MadTux [~mike@200.116.1.111] has joined #rocklinux 06:46 -!- togg [~togg@pD95343BC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 06:59 -!- MadTux [~mike@200.116.1.111] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 06:59 -!- MadTux [~mike@200.116.1.111] has joined #rocklinux 07:29 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@p50802888.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 07:39 -!- MadTux [~mike@200.116.1.111] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:39 -!- MadTux [~mike@200.116.1.111] has joined #rocklinux 07:43 -!- MadTux [~mike@200.116.1.111] has quit [Client Quit] 07:45 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p50803257.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:05 < rxr> rehi 08:38 < netrunne1> moin, 2 08:38 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 08:47 -!- tfing_ [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-5-222.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 08:56 < rxr> netrunner: do you have esdens irclog prettifier? 09:04 -!- tfing [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-5-222.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:04 -!- tfing_ is now known as tfing 09:08 < netrunner> rxr: nope. but when I ask him, he also coded a nice svnstat utility that might be nice to adapt it for rl 09:09 < netrunner> I think the url is https://rincewind.informatik.tu-muenchen.de/svnstat7 09:09 < netrunner> s,7,/, 09:21 < netrunner> hm, somehow with 2.6 my redirect/dnat magic does not work any more 09:26 -!- k3t_ [~k3t@pD9E8EEFD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:42 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@p54804A94.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:43 [Users #rocklinux] 09:43 [ Aard ] [ darix] [ jsaw ] [ nagi ] [ rolla ] [ th ] 09:43 [ blindy ] [ dsoul] [ k3t_ ] [ netcrow ] [ rxr ] [ true ] 09:43 [ BoS ] [ fake ] [ luckz ] [ netrunner] [ SMP ] [ valentin] 09:43 [ clifford] [ Freak] [ mistik1] [ nookie ] [ StefanG] 09:43 [ daja77 ] [ ija ] [ mnemoc ] [ Pupeno ] [ tfing ] 09:43 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 28 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 28 normal] 09:44 < jsaw> re-hi all 09:45 < rxr> hi jsaw 09:45 < jsaw> hi rxr 09:45 < jsaw> how's gnome 2.6 goin? 09:46 < rxr> building at-spi currently 09:47 < jsaw> oh 09:47 < rxr> when a ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg `grep gnome24 config/default7packages | cut ... ` is finished I'll submit it ... 09:47 < rxr> (and maybe + a patch to add --repository to Emerge-Pkg ... ;-) 09:48 < rxr> now it is at gnome-mag 09:49 < jsaw> btw, I think I can submit openoffice - finally 09:49 < rxr> oh - needing Java to build? 09:50 < jsaw> nope 09:50 < jsaw> once we have commercial packages, I'll add it as option again... 09:51 < rxr> oh - cool. 09:51 < rxr> And how long does it build? 09:52 < jsaw> u don't want to know (around 4h on a P4 2,3GHz, 1Gb RAM) 10:14 < netrunner> linux shell scripting tutorialhttps://www.freeos.com/guides/lsst/ 10:17 < netrunner> rxr: https://royale.zerezo.com/irssistats/ 10:20 < jsaw> hi netrunner 10:20 < netrunner> hi jsaw 10:30 < rxr> jsaw: I just noticed https://ooo.ximian.com/ooo-build.html 10:30 < rxr> did you know it ? 10:31 < rxr> ok - does not look very useful - forget it ... 10:33 < jsaw> nope, I'm using exactly this. But I just noticed, that I get a not so easy to fix error inside the build environment: argument list too long... 10:34 < jsaw> outside, doing almost the same steps like the scripts (with less options however), everything is fine... 10:34 < netrunner> download/tsa/wxpython/wxPythonSrc-2.4.2.4.tar.gz times out (even with -longtimeout) 10:55 < jsaw> me away - cu l8r 11:04 < rxr> cu jsaw 11:41 < nagi> moin 11:47 < rxr> moin netrunner 11:47 < rxr> nagi even ... 11:47 < rxr> ;-) 11:48 < nagi> hi rxr :p. 11:48 * netrunner wonders why his irssi logs everything but the 2 channels I use most. 11:49 < rxr> ? 11:50 < netrunner> I have autolog on. I have dirs/files for all channels and queries but #rocklinux and #blafasel 11:52 < nagi> congrats, netrunner :p 11:53 < daja77> netrunner: yep the belnet sf mirror seems to be down, I replaced it with heanet and it works 11:54 < nagi> hi daja77 11:54 < daja77> dunno if i should send a patch for this 11:54 < daja77> hi nagi 11:55 < netrunner> daja77: wasn't there an agreement to use dl.sourceforge.net to get the automatic balancer? 11:56 < daja77> well it is not my package, there is a hardcoded belenet url in it 11:56 < netrunner> ok, I'll remove it. 11:56 < daja77> :) 11:57 < rxr> yes - dl.sf.net for all 11:57 < daja77> k. 11:57 < netrunner> oh, even sf.net? 11:58 < daja77> sf.net is just a dns shortcut for sourceforge 11:58 < netrunner> sure. 12:01 < netrunner> 512 lines containing "sourceforge.net" ... and not few that specify the mirror. 12:01 < netrunner> 12 using sf.net :) 12:02 < SMP> -CC = gcc 12:02 < SMP> +CC = i386-linux-gcc 12:02 < SMP> yeah right, Debian rules ... 12:04 < daja77> hehe 12:06 < rxr> sf.net was just an abbreviation 12:07 < rxr> sourceforge.net is ok - just dl. is a must 12:10 -!- nookie [~nookie@M215P016.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:11 -!- nookie [~nookie@M213P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 12:11 < nagi> https://www.med-kolleg.de/icd/S/24601.htm - cool you can buy "schizoide persoenlichkeitstoerung" at ebay! 12:11 < daja77> how much for you? 12:11 * daja77 hides 12:12 < nagi> hoeh? why for me? 12:13 < daja77> just nosy 12:14 < nagi> let me count: borderline + schizoide persoenlichkeit + depression + phobia -- makes: 1'000'000' 12:14 < nagi> EUR 12:14 < nagi> *hrhr* "neugierige leute sterben frueh" 12:14 < daja77> lol 12:14 < daja77> hm normally this would not increase the prize 12:15 < nagi> why? 12:15 < daja77> it is a bug not a feature 12:15 < nagi> heh, 2 personality disorders, phobia and so on -- just everything in one person. you get much for your prize :p 12:16 < nagi> hmm. nah. it's a feature. you get also the pills together with me. and you can sell those pills on the schwarzmarkt 12:16 < daja77> ... 12:17 < nagi> hm? 12:18 < daja77> nothing just gets too oftopic for me 12:18 < nagi> oki 12:18 < netrunner> hm, what about a possibility to apply .patch.tar.bz2 = 12:19 < netrunner> for big patches I mean ... 12:19 < daja77> should work 12:19 < netrunner> already implemented? 12:19 < daja77> think so 12:20 < SMP> do you want to have such a big patch in-tree or in download/ 12:20 < SMP> and no, .patch.bz2 doesn't work for $patchfiles 12:21 < netrunner> SMP: how do you know? ;) 12:21 < SMP> I know the code? 12:21 < daja77> ;) 12:21 < netrunner> SMP: I still have this epia target, and it uses an 1,5MB patch to the kernel 12:22 < SMP> download it, apply from within lx_config.sh 12:22 < rxr> SMP: IIRC I implemented compressed patches ... 12:22 < rxr> SMP: it should be enough to put it into $patchfiles 12:23 < rxr> echo "Apply patch $x ..." 12:23 < rxr> if [[ $x = *.bz2 ]] ; then 12:23 < rxr> bzcat $x | patch $patchopt 12:23 < rxr> else 12:23 < rxr> patch $patchopt < $x 12:23 < rxr> fi 12:23 < SMP> yeah, just saw it 12:24 < netrunner> and svn can handle blobs, so what :) 12:24 < daja77> netrunner: why should we distribute such a large patch 12:24 < SMP> submaster is gonna choke on it ;> 12:25 < daja77> *gg* 12:26 < netrunner> yeah, waiting for that ;) 12:27 < rxr> netrunner: no there will no big 3rd party files in ROCK Linux 12:27 < rxr> netrunner: download it 12:29 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux.net/irclog/ 12:29 < rxr> sync still running - the 2003 logs are not there yet - but will be in the next hour ... 12:30 < daja77> .oO (what an embarrassing moment ;) 12:31 < SMP> whoah, Alanis Morissette with short hair. scary 12:32 < daja77> url? 12:33 < SMP> https://www.maverick.com/alanis/med/everything_video/alanis_everything_300.ram 12:37 < daja77> thx 12:37 < daja77> hm damn rstp doesn't work with mplayer hier 12:38 < daja77> here 12:38 < daja77> anyway, have to go now 13:17 < rxr> cool 13:17 < rxr> QSC is gettign faster and faster: 13:17 < rxr> 450.98 kBit/s 13:17 < rxr> ^- Outgoing traffic ... 13:17 < rxr> where we have 256 garanteed ... 13:44 < SMP> the question is, how much is left of that after ATM policing has been applied ;> 13:58 < rxr> hm? 13:58 < rxr> you mean is dropped or so? 14:05 -!- tfing_ [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-5-122.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 14:11 < SMP> rxr: yes, the switch might just drop anything that exceeds the guaranteed cell rate 14:12 < SMP> OTOH that would cause TCP to throttle 14:17 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAAF50.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:26 -!- tfing [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-5-222.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:26 -!- tfing_ is now known as tfing 14:27 -!- Pupeno [~Give@host90.200-117-206.telecom.net.ar] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:38 < rxr> it is now at 514.63 kBit/s 14:43 < valentin> rxr:how is that possible ? 14:43 < valentin> O 14:49 < rolla> re 14:52 < rxr> nload tells this 14:52 < rxr> hi valentin 15:02 -!- hannes_ [~hannes@fortuna7.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:04 < rxr> hi hannes_ 15:06 < hannes_> hi! 15:06 < rxr> maybe this is due to some DSL areas switch off - and maybe raised limited due to VoIP they run now ... 15:44 < rxr> this shit fucking gdb crap thing: 15:44 < rxr> (gdb) break Utility::File::IsFile 15:44 < rxr> Can't find member of namespace, class, struct, or union named "Utility::File::IsFile" 15:44 < rxr> Hint: try 'Utility::File::IsFile<TAB> or 'Utility::File::IsFile<ESC-?> 15:44 < rxr> (Note leading single quote.) 15:44 < rxr> (gdb) break Utility::File::IsFile() 15:44 < rxr> Breakpoint 2 at 0xffbaaac 15:54 -!- hannes_ [~hannes@fortuna7.bingo-ev.de] has quit ["leaving"] 15:57 < mnemoc> moin 15:59 < rxr> moin mnemoc 16:04 < mnemoc> hi rxr 16:14 < rxr> damn cpufreqd - again drove my CPU in the off-line low-power mode when I obviously had AC for half a day ... 16:14 < rxr> damn crap - too bad I'm in the list of it's authors ... 16:15 * rxr started his new dyncpud ... 16:15 < rxr> ^- this one does even do real CPU load scaling - not this stupid AC || !AC thing ... 16:15 < rxr> and in addition only has 128 lines of C++ code ... 16:19 < mnemoc> the right of branching is inalienable :) 16:23 < mnemoc> MadTux dies? his server has been down a whole day 17:06 < rolla> mnemoc: what is his server name? 17:07 < mnemoc> master.hack-solutions.com 17:09 < rolla> okay then that is not any of ther servers I host for him ;) 17:22 < valentin> rxr: still here ? 17:23 < mnemoc> :) 17:38 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAAF50.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:40 < rxr> valentin: yes 17:40 < rxr> was just shopping some good ... 18:24 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@pD9E4FA48.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:25 -!- blindy [~blindcode@pD9E4FC97.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 18:25 -!- blindcoder is now known as blindy 18:28 < mnemoc> rxr: what kind of stuff are you commiting to 2.0-STABLE? 18:28 < rxr> I first tag 2.0.1 soon 18:28 < rxr> then some more normal updates (like kde) and then 2.0.2 ... 18:28 < mnemoc> kernel? 18:28 < rxr> anything not too big, abvious fixes and updates can slowly go in 18:28 < rxr> yes 18:29 < rxr> kernels, too 18:29 < mnemoc> when do you plan to tag 2.0.1? 18:29 < rxr> especially due to the security problems ... 18:29 < rxr> two weeks ago ... 18:29 < mnemoc> :p 18:30 < rxr> hm - where does the libscollkeeper.pc should come from 18:31 < mnemoc> from scrollkeeper? 18:31 < rxr> mnemoc: you are smart 18:32 < mnemoc> that was a real challenge :) 18:32 < rxr> yeah! 18:32 < rxr> (btw. I just typed this to increase google ratings - I already investigate myself) 18:33 < rxr> mnemoc: we have irclogs again at: 18:33 < mnemoc> is it too low? 18:33 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux.net/irclog/ 18:33 < mnemoc> great! 18:33 < rxr> mnemoc: no the .pc is not included in the package 18:33 < netrunner> rxr: I miss the stats. 18:33 < rxr> netrunner: later 18:33 < mnemoc> no? 18:33 < mnemoc> uhm.. 18:33 < mnemoc> on wedneday i have to install a server to a new client and i want to do it with 2.0-STABLE 18:34 < rxr> mnemoc: do you need a tag for it? 18:34 < mnemoc> can i trust an snapshot of -STABLE as stable? 18:34 < rxr> of a kernel in the tree soon? 18:34 < rxr> yep - nothing critical went in 18:34 < mnemoc> great 18:34 < SMP> rxr: [reminder to merge r2792 back to 2.0] 18:34 < rxr> just the kernel could get an updarte ... 18:34 < rxr> SMP: thanks - I know 18:35 < mnemoc> zero-impact 100%-working new packages can go to -STABLE? 18:35 < rxr> yes 18:35 < rxr> (although SMP might kill me for this) 18:36 < mnemoc> :p 18:36 < SMP> no, I'm not 18:48 < netrunner> anybody knows by accident how the 2.6 make output was beautified? 18:49 < rxr> normal makefile stuff 18:49 < rxr> we also do this in GSMP and Macosd now ... 18:49 < rxr> https://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/gsmp/trunk/ 18:49 < rxr> https://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/macosd/trunk/ 18:50 < rxr> just trival Makefile scripting ... 18:54 < SMP> bad for copy-paste-modify debugging ;) 18:55 < rxr> hm? 18:56 < SMP> you can't just copy a command that failed, paste it into the shell and fiddle with it (changing -I or -L or -l or whatever) 18:59 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:02 < rxr> sure 19:02 < rxr> make Q= 19:02 < rxr> und SMP ist happy 19:02 < SMP> ok ;) 19:02 < mnemoc> what kernel came with rh6.1? 19:03 < daja77> ugh 19:03 < daja77> 2.2.x? 19:03 < daja77> and 2.4.1 perhaps 19:03 < mnemoc> worse case ipchains, it's good :) 19:03 < daja77> :) 19:23 -!- kasc [nat32@p3E9C15C0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:24 < rxr> hi kasc 19:24 < kasc> hi rxr 19:33 < rxr> how are you kasc 19:37 < kasc> fine, thx 19:37 < kasc> a bit busy tho ;) 19:39 < mnemoc> was crontab -e thing fixed on the trunk? and -stable? 19:40 < kasc> still waiting for t-com to fix my phone line so i can get online from my own boxes again 19:44 < rxr> mnemoc: oehm - I have to admit I have not really followed this ... :-( 19:45 < rxr> I think nothing happend ... :-( 19:46 < mnemoc> that's bad 19:47 < mnemoc> :'( 19:48 < mnemoc> https://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/smadm.cgi?i=2004032815360918485 <--- this seems to be the lastest thread 19:49 < mnemoc> this issue is a must fix for 2.0.1 imo 19:50 -!- hannes_ [~hannes@fortuna7.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:55 < rxr> mnemoc: ah - ok - could you bring it to rock-devel to gain attention? 19:57 < mnemoc> ok 19:59 < mnemoc> sent 20:12 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M254P015.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 20:17 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAA045.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:27 -!- kasc_ [nat32@p3E9C15C0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:27 -!- nookie [~nookie@M213P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:39 -!- kasc_ [nat32@p3E9C15C0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20:40 -!- blokkie [~blokkie@83-134-89-203.Kortrijk.GoPlus.FastDSL.tiscali.be] has joined #rocklinux 20:40 < blokkie> hi 20:40 -!- kasc [nat32@p3E9C15C0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:40 < blokkie> how is the x86_64 port going ? 20:42 < daja77> stalled afaik 20:42 < blokkie> bugger 20:42 < daja77> hm? 20:43 < blokkie> ]# cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep model 20:43 < blokkie> model : 4 20:43 < blokkie> model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+ 20:43 < blokkie> I have this and wanted to check out rocklinux 20:46 < daja77> x86 version should work 20:47 < blokkie> I tried gentoo but the portage / emerge broke to often 20:48 < daja77> hope i can try a native build under 64bit suse version soon 20:48 < blokkie> Yes, I'm waiting on that one too 20:48 < blokkie> now I run : # uname -a 20:48 < blokkie> Linux amd64_lappy 2.6.3-9mdk #1 Mon Apr 19 11:10:02 CEST 2004 x86_64 unknown unknown GNU/Linux 20:48 < blokkie> which is a pain, 20:48 < daja77> 64bit mdk? 20:48 < blokkie> yes 20:49 < blokkie> just released 22 may 20:49 < daja77> you you could try a native build there and report bugs 20:49 < blokkie> of rocklinux ? 20:49 < daja77> yes 20:49 < blokkie> I have no experience with rock .. is that a problem ? 20:50 < daja77> you could read the handbook first 20:52 < blokkie> :-) 20:53 < blokkie> ok, I think I have to read that entire doc 20:53 < daja77> :) 20:55 < blokkie> what iso should I down ? the beta4+fixes ? 20:55 < blokkie> coz I don't think I should go with the stable version 20:56 < daja77> no! 20:56 < daja77> 2.0.0 20:56 < daja77> beta4 is much older than stable 20:56 < daja77> stable is just a month old and no newer version released yet 20:57 < blokkie> okay 20:59 < blokkie> should I down all 3 iso's or only minimal , and then build the system up from there ? 21:00 < daja77> if you need a complete distro then the 3 isos, for building only minimal should be enough 21:00 < rolla> https://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/biztech/04/23/sco.investment.ap/index.html 21:00 < rolla> it just goes to show they are only in it for the money 21:00 < daja77> but it would make more sense to do a native rock build under that mdk 21:01 < blokkie> daja77, I am willing , you mean in a chrooted env ? 21:02 < daja77> the chrooted stuff will be done by the rock scripts 21:02 < daja77> you just need the src for that, no iso 21:03 < blokkie> you lost me here :-) 21:05 < daja77> hm? 21:05 < blokkie> where do I find those scripts ? 21:05 < blokkie> I'm reading the handbook, but under section " 5.1 Installation variants " there is no mention of install scripts 21:06 < daja77> I am not talking of install, but of building 21:07 < daja77> you could only install a 32bit version 21:11 < blokkie> Ok , got the scripts etc , gonna read now on about building 21:11 < daja77> k. :) 21:11 < daja77> you are welcome 21:13 < blokkie> this does not give me hope , it's "sarcasme" :-) 21:13 < blokkie> The distribution you are building ROCK Linux on should also be ROCK Linux. 21:13 < blokkie> It is also possible to build ROCK Linux on other distributions, but don't expect 21:13 < blokkie> it to work without some hacking .. 21:13 < blokkie> ^ from the Document/BUILD file 21:13 < daja77> well right, but in that case we have no working rock for that platform, so 21:14 < daja77> <- building rock under rh8 e.g. so don't give up hope 21:15 < blokkie> ok 21:15 < blokkie> now I ran that script to build 21:15 < blokkie> and first I see in the menue : architecture 21:15 -!- kasc [nat32@p3E9C15E3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:16 < daja77> ähm you need to configuer and download before 21:16 < blokkie> my precious is not listed there :'( 21:16 < blokkie> there , you lost me again 21:16 < daja77> it should be all written in that handbook 21:17 < blokkie> it's not there , if I am not mistaken 21:19 < daja77> mom 21:21 < daja77> https://dl.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-handbook/html/rock-handbookpa2.html#x69-126000II 21:24 < daja77> https://dl.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-handbook/html/rock-handbookch18.html#x74-13100018 21:25 < blokkie> You are very helpfull ! thx 21:25 < daja77> np :) 21:28 < blokkie> they all say I need to run ./scripts/Config first, which brings me to the menu to select the arch , and mine is not listed 21:28 < daja77> not? 21:28 < blokkie> no 21:28 < blokkie> it is not listed 21:29 < blokkie> mine is AMD64 == x86_64 != x86 or IA64 21:29 < blokkie> I could go for x86, but then it's not real 64bit 21:29 < daja77> x86_64 is your arch then 21:29 < blokkie> but it is not listed in the menu 21:30 < blokkie> see my problem ? 21:31 < daja77> choose x86 and choose 64 in the option below 21:31 -!- hannes_ [~hannes@fortuna7.bingo-ev.de] has quit ["leaving"] 21:32 < blokkie> :-) 21:32 * blokkie is ashamed 21:32 < daja77> ;) 21:34 < blokkie> Downloading download/base/linux24/linux-2.4.23.tar.bz2 ... 21:34 < blokkie> rather old 21:34 < daja77> which src you did download 21:34 < blokkie> rock-src-2.0.0-rc4 21:35 < daja77> this is old 21:35 < daja77> I could create a src tar from trunk if you like, with 2.4.26 in it ... 21:36 < blokkie> rock-src-2.0.0.tar.bz2 06-Mar-2004 21:52 1.3M 21:36 < blokkie> that is the latest yes ? 21:36 < daja77> the latest tarball yes, but guess it is too old for you still 21:37 < daja77> wait a minute 21:37 < blokkie> can you then create it , you are a champ ! 21:38 < daja77> script running 21:38 -!- kasc_ [nat32@p3EE20DC4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:39 < blokkie> in the mean time I read your personal info on rock :-) 21:40 < daja77> :) 21:43 < blokkie> I don't see any amd maintainers listed there 21:43 < daja77> we have no hw for this, so no real maintainer 21:43 < daja77> initial work was done by rxr 21:44 < blokkie> so I'm "unlucky" and prolly need to do everything from scratch and give feedback etc 21:44 < daja77> yep 21:45 * daja77 hopes to get access to amd64 hw soon 21:45 < StefanG> daja77: ask c_g :) 21:45 < daja77> we had his machine on c3 21:45 < StefanG> i know 21:46 < daja77> but he needs it for working afaik 21:46 < daja77> my former boss wants to give me access to his machine 21:46 < StefanG> for video encoding ;-) 21:46 < StefanG> thats good 21:46 < daja77> compiling rock under suse ^^ 21:46 < StefanG> i plan to buy one this year :) 21:46 < StefanG> lol 21:46 < blokkie> mine is a acer Aspire 1500 , not to expensive 21:46 < StefanG> i compilen lfs under rock ;-) 21:47 < StefanG> thats a better combination :) 21:47 < daja77> damn Create-SrcTar is broken, will do it manually 21:47 < daja77> why lfs when you already have rock? 21:47 < StefanG> want to build a lfs to learn a little more about linux 21:48 < StefanG> and my rock is a little bit br0ken 21:48 < StefanG> after problems with udma5 21:48 < StefanG> and ext3-errors 21:48 < daja77> ugh 21:48 < daja77> reinstall ^^ 21:48 < StefanG> i could also copy the /bin dir from my server 21:48 < StefanG> but i have the first 5 gb free on harddisk after deleting win 21:49 < StefanG> and i hope that i can learn some interesting things :) 21:49 < StefanG> if it does not work i can re-install rock :) 21:49 < daja77> :) 21:50 < StefanG> the rock on my server works fine 21:50 < daja77> good 21:50 < blokkie> how much free space do I need for this all daja77 ? 21:50 < StefanG> but i have still not found out how to change the mc-colors 21:50 < StefanG> will try to compile mc myself and see what happens ;-) 21:51 < daja77> not more than 20gb i think 21:52 < blokkie> I only have 3 gig available now 21:53 < daja77> ok than start with a minmal build this should fit 21:53 < daja77> for desktop or generic you need more 21:53 < blokkie> I could reinstall mandrake minimal == 300 mb 21:53 < daja77> maybe you could ad space by nfs 21:53 < daja77> add 21:54 < blokkie> the windows slice is FAT32 , can I use that ? 21:54 < daja77> uhm no idea 21:55 < daja77> linux can read and write that fs but i guess it is not suitable for builds cos no unix rights can be set there 21:55 < blokkie> well, I'll first start with minimal , and if that all works OK, I'll resize windows , and do a minimal install of mandrake , so I have 25 gig free 21:55 < daja77> yep that would be ok 21:55 < blokkie> roger 21:55 < daja77> :) 21:56 -!- kasc [nat32@p3E9C15E3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:56 -!- kasc_ is now known as kasc 21:57 < blokkie> how is that src build going ? 21:59 < daja77> https://lospalmos.homelinux.net/rockinst/rock-2.1.0-DEV.tar.bz2 21:59 < daja77> i have a slow conn, so don't worry 21:59 < blokkie> 5 min, no problem 22:00 < daja77> :) 22:00 < blokkie> I'm moving my mp3's and divx from this laptop to a fileserver in the meantime 22:00 < daja77> :) 22:05 < blokkie> I have been a bit unlucky with the HW support of this laptop in linux 22:05 < daja77> that's why I consider buying an apple laptop 22:06 < blokkie> it has a ATI9600 card in it, but there are no ATI drivers for 64bit availeble yet 22:06 < StefanG> 64bit? 22:06 < StefanG> laptop? 22:06 < StefanG> wow :) 22:06 < blokkie> yes 22:06 < blokkie> not to expensive 22:06 < StefanG> name? 22:06 < daja77> StefanG: not 64bit, who cares 22:06 < blokkie> 1600 Euro , Acer Aspire 1500 22:07 < daja77> i want a working laptop with linux that's all 22:07 < StefanG> what cpu? 22:07 < blokkie> it has DVD-RW+- too 22:07 < blokkie> model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+ 22:07 < blokkie> cat /proc/cpyinfo | grep model 22:08 < StefanG> ok, mine is still ok .. and the next one will be a very small one .. but it is something interesting that they have this cpu on a laptop 22:08 < StefanG> since yesterday there i have no warranty on my laptop any longer :/ 22:09 < StefanG> ok, have2go now 22:09 < blokkie> bye 22:09 < blokkie> nice talking 22:09 < tcr> Apple released at the G5, a 64bit cpu, too 22:09 < tcr> s,at,a, 22:09 < daja77> tcr: in ibooks :) 22:09 < tcr> Eh, doesn't make much sense either 22:10 < daja77> *gg* 22:11 < tcr> Anyway, there were some technical aspects of the g5 which looked quite cool 22:13 < blokkie> is G5 not 128 bit ? 22:13 < tcr> Uh??? 22:14 < rxr> no 64bitz 22:14 < mnemoc> 128??!! 22:14 < tcr> I couldn't name any 128 bit cpu 22:14 < rxr> of course some results can be 128 bit - but the architecture is 64 ... 22:14 < blokkie> many things I have to learn 22:15 -!- kasc [nat32@p3EE20DC4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["leaving"] 22:16 < blokkie> tcr, what are those CPU's in game consoles then ? 22:16 < blokkie> I thought those where 128 bit too 22:20 < rxr> some 22:20 < rxr> some GPU ones are, too - some even have >= 256bit busses .... 22:24 < daja77> wb rxr 22:24 < blokkie> daja77, it's still fetching the requierd , I'll have to do this all over again when I want to build "desktop" ? 22:24 < rxr> yeah - hi 22:25 < rxr> required means required for your current configuration 22:25 < rxr> if you build s.th. with more packages later - required will only fetch files not yet available on your system 22:25 < blokkie> current config == host machine it's build on ? 22:26 < daja77> the file created by scripts/Config 22:26 < blokkie> ok 22:26 < blokkie> then minimal 22:26 < blokkie> *phew* for a sec there I though it read the env of the host == with all the bloat 22:30 -!- sten [~sten@S010600500467cc23.lb.shawcable.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:31 < blokkie> why is it downing postfix ? 22:31 < sten> is there any compelling reason why I would want tcsh installed? 22:32 < blokkie> I have always liked it for shrooting 22:32 < blokkie> chrooting 22:34 < sten> is there a particular behavior when chrooting, which makes it more suitable? (or simply personal pref?) 22:34 < sten> btw, what do you mean by "downing postfix?" 22:35 < blokkie> well .. when I want to chroot using tcsh , I don't need to define /bin/whatever and it has native autocompletion 22:35 < sten> native autocompletion. handy :-) 22:35 < sten> maybe I'll take a look at it 22:36 < blokkie> yes , that's what I like about it , thou lot's of scripts have #!/bin/bash .. so for default usage it's not that "suited" 22:36 < blokkie> setenv is nice , but not so common known IMHO 22:38 < blokkie> daja77, it's downing everything .. even XFree86 22:38 < blokkie> I've K^C it 22:38 < daja77> well then you have selected generic 22:39 < sten> maybe I'll work on a "BSD-style" alteration for ROCK. I tried FreeBSD ealier this week, and I really liked it. (unfortunately, STABLE didn't include support for my NIC, but that means that I return to ROCK :-) 22:39 < sten> blokkie: did you enable the minimal template? 22:41 < blokkie> Now I selected " Boot & rescue " 22:41 < daja77> blokkie: select expert options and then minimal package selection 22:45 < rxr> hae? No. 22:45 < rxr> Boot & rescue does not include XFree 22:45 < rxr> s.th. other is wrong 22:46 < rxr> blokkie: did you just run ./scripts/Config ? or did you supply a -cfg xyz option? 22:46 < daja77> rxr: he had generic selected 22:47 < rxr> ah - ok - I overread "Now" .. 22:47 [Users #rocklinux] 22:47 [ Aard ] [ darix] [ k3t_ ] [ netrunner] [ StefanG] [ valentin] 22:47 [ blindy ] [ dsoul] [ luckz ] [ nookie_ ] [ sten ] 22:47 [ blokkie ] [ fake ] [ mistik1] [ rolla ] [ tcr ] 22:47 [ BoS ] [ Freak] [ mnemoc ] [ rxr ] [ tfing ] 22:47 [ clifford] [ ija ] [ nagi ] [ SMP ] [ th ] 22:47 [ daja77 ] [ jsaw ] [ netcrow] [ snyke ] [ true ] 22:47 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 31 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 31 normal] 22:48 < blokkie> it cannot find mktemp 22:48 < rxr> blokkie: oehm - in which way not find? 22:49 < blokkie> Paranoia Check: Program 'mktemp' not found or too old! 22:49 < blokkie> You need an 'mktemp' installed which does know about the -p 22:49 < blokkie> option. Install the latest mktemp version. 22:49 < blokkie> this is after the == ./scripts/Build-Target -cfg system 22:49 < daja77> yep this is a problem with most distros 22:49 < blokkie> $ ./scripts/Download mktemp 22:49 < blokkie> INFO: Found cached mirror URL in download/Mirror: 22:49 < blokkie> INFO: https://ftp.sh.cvut.cz/MIRRORS/rock/ROCK-2.0 22:49 < blokkie> INFO: To force a new mirror auto-detection, remove download/Mirror. 22:49 < blokkie> ERROR: Unknown file: mktemp. 22:50 < blokkie> $ whereis mktemp 22:50 < blokkie> mktemp: /bin/mktemp 22:50 < daja77> scripts/Emerge-Pkg -cfg $id mktemp 22:50 < blokkie> sorry for the #flood 22:51 < blokkie> yep 22:51 < blokkie> running atm , $id == system 22:51 < blokkie> /usr/bin/ld: /home/blokkie/tmp/ccYZQp2J.o: relocation R_X86_64_32 can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC 22:51 < blokkie> /home/blokkie/tmp/ccYZQp2J.o: could not read symbols: Bad value 22:51 < blokkie> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 22:51 < mnemoc> ./scripts/Download --package mktemp ;) 22:51 < daja77> -package 22:52 < mnemoc> :p 22:52 < blokkie> now what ? 22:52 < daja77> you could just compile mktemp manual 22:53 < blokkie> okelidokeli 22:53 < mnemoc> cd download/base/mktemp 22:55 < blokkie> yeah 22:55 < blokkie> it compiled , now setting my user env correct so it finds the path 22:56 < sten> is ./scripts/Update-Src considered stable, or should stll stick with svn? 22:56 < sten> s/stll/still 22:57 < daja77> I'd prefer svn 23:00 < sten> ok 23:01 -!- blokkie [~blokkie@83-134-89-203.Kortrijk.GoPlus.FastDSL.tiscali.be] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:06 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAA045.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:07 -!- blokkie [~blokkie@83-134-89-203.Kortrijk.GoPlus.FastDSL.tiscali.be] has joined #rocklinux 23:07 < blokkie> still no go 23:08 < blokkie> I've edde the mktemp to my path 23:08 < blokkie> s/edde/added/ 23:08 < mnemoc> do u have two mktemp-s now? 23:09 < blokkie> no 23:09 < blokkie> ok 23:10 < blokkie> I've chmod -x the /bin/mktemp and now it works 23:13 < blokkie> it fails on > Building tools.cross/lib/fl_wrapper.so. 23:13 < blokkie> that is like , the second package 23:13 < blokkie> this ain't gonna be nice 23:13 < mnemoc> that is not even a package :) 23:13 < blokkie> ld errors 23:13 < mnemoc> outch 23:13 < blokkie> i'll paste 23:14 < blokkie> _flood_ 23:14 < blokkie> -> Building tools.cross/lib/fl_wrapper.so. 23:14 < blokkie> /usr/bin/ld: /home/blokkie/tmp/ccKVJuJn.o: relocation R_X86_64_32 can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC 23:14 < blokkie> /home/blokkie/tmp/ccKVJuJn.o: could not read symbols: Bad value 23:14 < blokkie> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 23:14 < mnemoc> oh, x86_64 23:14 < daja77> yep 23:14 < mnemoc> rxr? 23:14 < blokkie> so this would result in a bugreport ? or shall I resist ? 23:15 < mnemoc> who did the x86_64 port? 23:15 < blokkie> mandrake staff 23:15 < blokkie> :-) 23:15 < mnemoc> ehm... i mean at rock 23:15 < blokkie> nobody 23:16 < blokkie> I'm like , the first 23:16 < daja77> no rxr did some porting on 20c3 23:17 < mnemoc> rxr: ping! 23:18 < blokkie> shal I enable strace in the config ? 23:19 < blokkie> coz I need a descent error IMO 23:19 < mnemoc> xtrace ;) but it's not needed 23:19 < mnemoc> relocation R_X86_64_32 can not be used when making a 23:19 < mnemoc> shared object; recompile with -fPIC 23:19 < mnemoc> that's a descent error 23:19 < daja77> blokkie: guess you have not enough discspace for xtrace 23:20 < daja77> oh or conbfused this with debug symbols 23:20 < blokkie> still 3.1 gig available 23:20 < mnemoc> x86_64 and not enough disckspace??? 23:20 < daja77> i should go to be 23:20 < daja77> bed 23:20 < mnemoc> :) 23:20 < daja77> mnemoc: harddisc 23:20 < mnemoc> i you have money for an x86_64 you can buy a 'descent' hardrive :p 23:21 < blokkie> it's a "bigfoot" :-))) 23:21 < mnemoc> oh 23:21 < blokkie> 80mb :-) 23:21 < blokkie> ok .. this was a joke 23:21 < blokkie> you don't remember those big big HD's , called "bigfoot" 23:22 < blokkie> very buggy 23:22 < mnemoc> bigfoot discs where flat 5.25 harddrives iirc 23:23 < mnemoc> were* 23:23 < blokkie> yeah 23:24 < sten> will ./scripts/Update-System update packages with "new checksums" 23:24 < sten> or is that what the "-ignore-chksum" option is for? 23:25 < mnemoc> ./scripts/Update-System <--- don't do that 23:25 < mnemoc> i don't trust them :p 23:25 < daja77> yep 23:26 < sten> do I need to individually update packages from ./Create-UpdList then? :-| 23:28 < mnemoc> sleepy-daja, what do you think? 23:29 < daja77> dreaming of some nice babes *ggg* 23:29 < mnemoc> :p 23:29 < daja77> might be safer, yes 23:30 < sten> but tedious... 23:30 < mnemoc> sten: i have never had the courage of using _that_ part of rock 23:32 < mnemoc> i heard that ./scripts/Update-System was fixed 23:33 < mnemoc> you can try =) 23:33 < sten> ok, I'll try, and report my success 23:33 < sten> | failure 23:33 < blokkie> good luck 23:33 < sten> thanks 23:33 < mnemoc> make the force be with you 23:33 < blokkie> :-) 23:33 < sten> :-) 23:34 < luckz> -|:-< 23:48 < daja77> n8 23:51 < mnemoc> gn8 daja77 --- Log closed Sat Apr 24 00:00:15 2004