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--- Log opened Sun Apr 25 00:00:30 2004 00:01 < mnemoc> :o 00:19 < daja77> mnemoc: hehe 00:19 < mnemoc> :) 00:19 < daja77> typing while bein asleep 00:20 < daja77> the most used word is build, hehe 00:20 < daja77> bein at #2 is somehow scaring 00:23 < netrunner> daja77: #2? I just regenerated with nudelstats ... https://waterworld.dyndns.org/~andreas/rocklinux/irssistats/ 00:23 < netrunner> nudelstats seems better, I can pipe the logs in, and it is simply css formatted html. no images. 00:24 < daja77> waaah now I am the first ... 00:25 * daja77 hides 00:26 < netrunner> daja77: stop talking :) 00:26 < daja77> pah you want me to shut up? 00:26 < netrunner> daja77: you wrote more than twice as much lines as I did. 00:27 < netrunner> but I have more words/line. that equals it out. 00:27 < daja77> you just can't keep your sentences simple :p 00:28 < netrunner> hm. some fruits in that fruit salad I had didn't like each other. 00:28 * netrunner feels rumours in his stomache 00:28 < daja77> you had this before right? 00:29 < daja77> <- thinks fruit salads are evil 00:29 < mnemoc> netrunner: how many days you have on those logs? 00:30 < mnemoc> netrunner: i wrote an script to render a irssistat.conf, it found 389 logfiles for #rocklinux :p 00:31 < daja77> rofl https://groups.google.de/groups?dq=&hl=de&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=ISO-8859-1&group=de.alt.netdigest&selm=33227a00ea2d2e2fc846eec6ccd2547e%40die.wuer.de 00:31 < mnemoc> dammit, it didn't process my data :( 00:32 * daja77 thought mnemoc is the dragqueen of the chan, why am I ahead 00:32 < mnemoc> :p 00:32 < mnemoc> because to pass more time on bed 00:32 < mnemoc> you* 00:32 < daja77> hm 00:33 < daja77> passing .. bed, sound good ... 00:33 < mnemoc> my english stinks 00:33 < mnemoc> my spanish too :\ 00:34 < daja77> well I don't mind your spanish :) 00:35 < daja77> nor your english 00:36 < daja77> n8 you all 00:36 < mnemoc> n8 daja77 :) 00:36 < netrunner> n8 daja77 00:36 < netrunner> mnemoc: it starts 2003-10-16 00:36 < mnemoc> i don't know why i didn't analyse my logs :( 00:39 < netrunner> mnemoc: your logs? how would I be able to analyse your logs? 00:40 < mnemoc> me and my one logs 00:40 < mnemoc> i'm playing iwth irssistats 00:40 < mnemoc> s/one/own/ 00:41 < mnemoc> i'm trying to render stats for 6 channels 00:42 < mnemoc> :( 00:43 < netrunner> mnemoc: the problem with irssistats is that it wants those input lines in its config 00:43 < netrunner> one file per line. and I create a file per day. 00:43 < netrunner> nudelstats is fed with data from stdin 00:44 < mnemoc> i wrote an script to generate the .conf 00:44 < mnemoc> it claims to read them all 00:44 < mnemoc> but the output has no stats :'( 00:50 < netrunner> mnemoc: try nudelstats, it works fine, and does not use imagebloat. 00:50 < netrunner> package/avm/nudelstats committed to submaster 00:50 < mnemoc> i'll try 00:50 * mnemoc kicks irssistats 00:50 < netrunner> ok. now I'll leave you for your prime hours ;) 00:50 < netrunner> n8 00:51 < mnemoc> :) 00:51 < mnemoc> n8 00:51 < SMP> < mnemoc> "SMP likes to /kick" 00:51 < SMP> * mnemoc kicks irssistats 00:51 < SMP> hmmm 00:52 * netrunner should generate those stats by cron. but not today ... ;) 00:52 < netrunner> on the other hand, rene will do so on the master... 00:53 < mnemoc> netrunner: url 00:53 < mnemoc> SMP: that's what netrunner's stats said about you :p 00:54 < SMP> great program. two kicks in three years or so ... 01:55 < blindy> moin 01:56 < mnemoc> moin blindy 01:57 * blindy is slowly regaining his former reputation :) 01:57 < blindy> moin mnemoc 01:58 < mnemoc> dancer reputation? ;) 01:58 < blindy> also 01:58 < blindy> but mostly: 01:59 < blindy> "Everytime I see you you are with at least three girls." 01:59 < mnemoc> :) 02:02 < blindy> and just today I witnessed two of them arguing about the "fact" that the other keeps hanging out with me and taking me away from the other 02:02 < blindy> feels strange 02:03 < mnemoc> blindy feels desired :) 02:03 < blindy> :) 02:23 * blindy --> bed 02:38 -!- mistik1 [rasta@ool-44c02046.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 02:38 -!- mistik1 [mistik1@2001:618:400:0:0:0:44c0:2046] has joined #rocklinux 03:20 -!- demian [allyourbas@pD9E0A8EA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 03:32 -!- demian [allyourbas@pD9E0A8EA.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #rocklinux [] 03:35 -!- nookie [~nookie@M374P022.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 03:53 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M373P005.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:29 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@p50802BDC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 07:47 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p50802868.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:55 -!- BoS^awk_ [~bodo@dialin-145-254-079-212.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:00 -!- BoS^awk [~bodo@dialin-145-254-190-242.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 09:27 -!- k3t_ [k3t@p5480406C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:33 -!- trekkie3k [k3t@pD9E8FDF0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 09:42 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAB87A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:01 < blindy> moin 10:24 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@pD958FBF1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:24 -!- blindy [~blindcode@pD9E4F975.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 10:24 -!- blindcoder is now known as blindy 10:28 < netrunne1> mnemoc: https://waterworld.dyndns.org/~andreas/rocklinux/irssistats/ 10:28 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 10:28 < blindy> moin netti 10:29 < netrunner> moin blindi 10:29 < blindy> y! 10:29 < blindy> y! y! y! 10:32 < netrunner> yeah, that's a song by the kelly's, no? 10:32 < blindy> no idea 10:36 < fussabtreter> moin 10:36 < blindy> moin moin 10:37 < netrunner> https://www.unixuser.org/~euske/vnc2swf/ 10:38 < blindy> urgs 10:40 < blindy> rxr speaks a lot of monologues 10:40 < blindy> heh 11:25 < daja77> moin 11:27 < netrunner> moin daja77 11:28 < daja77> moin netrunner 11:30 < valentin> moin 11:30 < daja77> moin valentin 11:35 -!- nookie [~nookie@M374P022.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 11:36 -!- nookie [~nookie@M395P022.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 11:43 < netrunner> blindy: how do I attack in wesnoth? 11:50 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAB87A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:51 < blindy> netrunner: click your unit, then move next to enemy unit and then click enemy unit 11:51 < blindy> you'll be asked for which weapon you want to use 11:58 < rxr> rehi 11:59 < fussabtreter> hi rxr 11:59 < blindy> moin rxr 11:59 < rxr> moin fussabtreter and blindy 11:59 < daja77> hi rxr 12:00 < fussabtreter> hi daja77 12:00 < rxr> hi daja77 12:00 < daja77> hi owl 12:05 < rxr> netrunner: your irclogs are now integrated 12:07 < rxr> hm - or they are not - wait 12:10 < rxr> netrunner: The is a gab in your irc logs? ...: 12:10 < rxr> rw------- 1 rene users 20593 Dec 11 15:45 linux-2003-12-11 12:10 < rxr> -rw------- 1 rene users 18139 Mar 26 01:00 linux-2004-03-25 12:16 < netrunner> oh, sorry, didn't notice that one. where did they go? damn :( 12:18 < netrunner> maybe someone else can fill the missing gap? 12:20 < blindy> I can fill until 2004-03-22 12:20 < blindy> 2004-03-21 12:21 < blindy> from esden's logs 12:25 < rxr> blindy: I already asked esden - and he wants to send them when he has time ... 12:25 < rxr> blindy: or do you have direct access now= 12:25 < blindy> I have 12:25 < rxr> btw: I improved the html layout again: 12:25 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux.net/irclog/ 12:26 < rxr> blindy: cool - can you tar them up so I can wget them? 12:26 < blindy> just a moment 12:26 < rxr> cool 12:29 < blindy> https://apollo.bingo-ev.de/~blindcoder/logs.tar.bz2 12:29 < blindy> all log from 2003-12-10 to 2004-03-21 12:30 < rxr> ok - thanks - pulled and merged 12:30 * rxr uploading the result 12:30 < daja77> wyh the oldest logs first? 12:32 < daja77> the old logs were at https://www.rocklinux.net/irclog_s_ which means that old links in the logs refering to logs are not wiorking anymore 12:37 < rxr> it is just usual that this stuff is in historical order - listed as it would be in a calender ... 12:37 < daja77> k. 12:37 < rxr> I have not noticed the old logs have been at https://www.rocklinux.net/irclog_s_ 12:38 < daja77> just saw this by clivking at the first log ;) 12:38 < rxr> clifford assigned the irclog to me - AFAIK the old logs only have been at .net/people/esden/irclogs or so ... 12:38 * blindy --> lunch 12:38 < rxr> daja77: huh? this is an rather temporary URL used there ... 12:39 < daja77> ah k. cpould be just one of esden's testruns 12:39 < rxr> https://www.esden.net/rocklinux/irclogs/rocklinux-2002-04-14 12:39 < rxr> ^^^^^^^^^ 12:39 < daja77> hm maybe i should get breakfast before reading more nonsense 12:40 < rxr> daja77: greating from susan 12:40 < daja77> thx greet her back pls 13:11 < blindy> re 14:06 -!- tfing_ [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-5-147.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 14:09 -!- tfing [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-2-86.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:09 -!- tfing_ is now known as tfing 14:11 < rxr> cu 14:12 < fussabtreter> bye rxr 15:34 -!- Kidkiller [~Kidkiller@082-146-104-067.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be] has joined #rocklinux 15:51 -!- Kidkiller [~Kidkiller@082-146-104-067.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:20 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M471P005.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 16:36 -!- nookie [~nookie@M395P022.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:13 < blindy> re 18:40 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EABCF6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:08 -!- root__ [~root@200.116.1.32] has joined #rocklinux 19:08 -!- root__ is now known as shadow__ 19:51 -!- BoS^awk_ [~bodo@dialin-145-254-079-212.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 19:56 < netrunner> ui, server build finished. 19:56 -!- BoS^awk [~bodo@dialin-212-144-002-178.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:56 < netrunner> 401 builds total, 386 completed fine, 15 with errors. 20:04 < blindy> https://scavenger.homeip.net/ROCK/search/search.pl 20:44 -!- cchamilt [~chatzilla@cm138.sigma49.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #rocklinux 21:18 < tcr> hey cchamilt 21:18 < cchamilt> hi 21:18 < tcr> How's things? 21:19 < cchamilt> Stale, not much going on 21:19 < tcr> Sadly I'm incredibly loaded with work 21:20 < cchamilt> I have things I 'could' be working on. 21:20 < tcr> Heh :) 21:21 < tcr> Besides my casual work pensum I just started looking at scheme and I'm really excited of it.. 21:23 < cchamilt> I am researching IF it is possible to brew up a true failover solution for linux. 21:24 < cchamilt> So far my best scheme is kind of strange if the various patches work. 21:25 < tcr> Hm. 21:25 < cchamilt> HA is really complicated and has been badly implemented (or at least implemented in strange ways to sell hardware). 21:26 < tcr> Well, fake recently pointed to the new release of openbsd which got a new feature for backfalling when some service doesn't work anymore 21:26 < tcr> I think there must be something on the line for linux given that it's said to be used on high end data centers 21:26 < cchamilt> Well, I am more concerned about dieing full systems or at least making it ok to have one. 21:27 < cchamilt> No, it is all bullshit. There is always a point of failure in all commercial systems for linux. 21:28 < cchamilt> I am looking for something very cheesy like unixware's nonstop clustering of two nodes. 21:28 < tcr> Have no idea, but I'd like to disagree ;) 21:28 < cchamilt> The problem is that most solutions have a shared disk resource concept, and that is usually where the single point of failure creeps in. 21:29 < mistik1> blindy: you around? 21:29 < cchamilt> ie. single scsi ribbon, fiber channel star switch, raid pushed out to NAS without redundant raid multipath... 21:30 < cchamilt> Winchester makes a system with redundant raid and in if you buy about $150K worth of their stuff it is pretty OK. 21:31 -!- shadow__ [~root@200.116.1.32] has quit ["leaving"] 21:31 < cchamilt> evms doesnt support raid on shared devices as the kernel unsafely commits metadata to devices while failing. 21:32 < SMP> cchamilt: there are various ways to build shared-nothing clusters, if that's what you want. depends on your application anyway 21:32 < cchamilt> Yes, and most of them aren't. I have read through ibm's red books and not a single one provided it. 21:33 < cchamilt> I do think there is a cheap solution, but it is cobbled together from things. If evms and openssi and a network based device system can all work together that is. 21:34 < SMP> if you want shared filesystems with no shared hardware, use drdb 21:34 < SMP> or rather drbd ;) 21:35 < cchamilt> I recall someone saying nasty things about its reliability. 21:35 < SMP> the company Clifford works for develops and uses drbd 21:35 < SMP> whatever that means ... 21:37 < cchamilt> Well I heard somethings last year when I looked into this, cant even remember what now. 21:39 < SMP> with drbd you still have a SPOF - your filesystem. if one node garbles it badly, the other one is lost, too. 21:40 < cchamilt> Yes. 21:41 < cchamilt> I dont think that is fixable, killing a bad behaving process/node as fast as possible is about all you can do. 22:26 < SMP> rxr: any ETA for the gnome 2.6 update? 22:43 < darix> SMP: when its done! *hides* 22:44 < SMP> well from what I've heard it's already done 22:44 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EABCF6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:00 < netrunner> arg, this stupid old pc cannot boot cdrw :/ 23:01 * fussabtreter 's set status: n/a - sleeping. 23:01 < fussabtreter> gn8 23:06 < netrunner> now I remember why there is still no rock on that pc, ... the cd's don't boot. 23:07 < SMP> does it have something to bootstrap from? 23:17 -!- Ankur [~Ankur@61.16.237.64] has joined #rocklinux 23:23 < netrunner> harddisk. and still nobody knows about the boot problem? (silent stop after freeing kernel memory) 23:24 < SMP> what boot problem? 23:28 < netrunner> the bootcd stops after the message "Freeing kernel memory\n foo KB freed" 23:29 < netrunner> iirc the awk thing hung or so. I once tried to debug it while burning avis to cd, they are now all bootable with debug versions of linuxrc ;) --- Log closed Mon Apr 26 00:00:44 2004