--- Log opened Mon Apr 26 00:00:44 2004
00:03 < jsaw> re
00:03 < netrunner> hi jsaw 
00:03 < jsaw> hi netrunner 
00:11 < jsaw> anybody at gcc 3.4.0?
00:12  * daja77 not
00:12 < netrunner> jsaw: esden tried it for another project ... seems to be yet more strict.
00:13 < jsaw> well, not more strict, but... stuff that was "obsoleted" with 3.3 is now *really* gone...
00:14 < jsaw> netrunner: can you get him to push the gcc package to sm?
00:19 < netrunner> jsaw: he didn't do it for rock. he's quite busy in an university project. 
00:19 < netrunner> (where I should also invest some time ;)
00:19 < jsaw> ah, okay, so I'll continue with the package...
00:19 < netrunner> sure
00:20 < jsaw> btw, all the PC's I've under control with linux are now running rock... :)
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00:21 < jsaw> my server-workstation (computing), my lil samba-print-and-other stuff server 
00:22 < jsaw> and all flawlessly integrated into the institute ldap environment.
00:23 < jsaw> (damn, the more I know rock the better I like it's rough edges)
00:23 < SMP> too many rough edges
00:24 < jsaw> for me, a rough edge is not a fault, so what I mean is: you have to edit every config file by hand - no yast or similiar...
00:25 < SMP> yeah, well
00:25 < jsaw> but, yes I know, it has a bunch of shortcomings, still
00:26 < SMP> well, for example a tool to set up an LDAP client (or even server) would be very good to have
00:27 < jsaw> (i guess that's a hint now)
00:27 < SMP> just a very small one ;)
00:27 < jsaw> :)
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00:28 < jsaw> btw, why is TERM set to "nxterm"?
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09:28 < netrunne1> ts, my upstream patch was applied and new version released just half a day after I sent it ;)
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09:58 < rxr> rehi
09:59 < rxr> jsaw: because xterms like to do so ...
10:01 < rxr> SMP: I push the gnome update today
10:01 < rxr> some regressions  of package build errors
10:01 < rxr> but they can/should be fixed in a community progress - I'm not willing to "waste" more time with this gnome cr*p
10:02 < rxr> jsaw: /me is also interested in gcc-3.4
10:03 < rxr> I'll build ROCK with 3.4 in the next weeks - fix all the problems - and then we should finally drop all the many gcc3* packages ...
10:03 < rxr> jsaw: btw. the c++ parser of gcc-3.4 is completely rewritten - is is more even more standard conformer ...
10:10 < netrunner> rxr: that does not help if the source you compile is not ;)
10:14 < rxr> such broken code needs to be fixed.
10:14 < netrunner> true.
10:14 < rxr> many people need a ANSI C++ compiler supporting all features correctly
10:15 < netrunner> rxr: I commited nudelstats v0.5 to submaster, it is nice clean stats for the irssi logs.
10:15 < rxr> gcc-2.95.3 was better than many other compiler at that time - (e.g. MSVC++) - but it had major shortcomming (MSVC++ had even more)
10:16 < rxr> even gcc-3.2 sometimes emits rather useless error messages and compiled incorrect code into even more incorrect assembly ... :-()
10:16 < rxr> I'm very very happy with every new stricter C++ parser available
10:16 < rxr> btw. gcc-3.4 itself got speeed optimizations as result of profiling + some other normal refactoring to help speed
10:17 < rxr> so gcc-3.4 is the first version of gcc faster then it's previous major branch
10:17 < rxr> and it has precompiled header - that can dramiatically speeup many C++ projects - bu I still need to play with them to find out if it is useful
10:17 < rxr> (for /me or /us)
10:19 < netrunner> hm. I have no deep knowledge in compiler arch, and started c++ yesterday with some hello world scripts ;) but it sounds good what you say.
10:19 < netrunner> s/scripts/progs/
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10:50 < rxr> OMG - I need what the gnome folks are smoking:
10:50 < rxr> /home/rene/rock/build/default-2.1.0-DEV-powerpc-powerpc-750-desktop-expert/ROCK/tools.native/wrapper
10:50 < rxr> install: `./Balsa.idl' and `/home/rene/rock/src.balsa.1082970325.21666.2213434599/balsa-2.1.2/src/./B
10:50 < rxr> alsa.idl' are the same file
10:57 < daja77> lol
11:01 < rxr> "This will exit Balsa. Do you really want to do this?"
11:01 < rxr> what a questions ... - yes, sure damn crap ...
11:01 < daja77> hi rxr
11:02 < rxr> hi daja77 
11:04 < fussabtreter> moin
11:20 < rxr> rehi
11:20 < rxr> cool
11:21 < rxr> http://ktown.kde.cl/kooldock/
11:37 < rxr> http://www.rocklinux.net/irclog/stats.html
11:43 < netrunner> rxr: you package it?  
11:47 < rxr> netrunner: ? this is your noddelstat
11:47 < netrunner> rxr: i meant kooldock 
11:48 < rxr> netrunner: ;-)
11:48 < netrunner> rxr: the stats are cool, only we have to many lines/day. maybe you reduce the fontsize in the stylesheet .ns_alt_td 
11:48 < rxr> in some seconds
11:48 < rxr> yep
11:49 < netrunner> the author of noodlestats asked if we use it, can I ack that, or do you want to try others?
11:50 < rxr> hehe, this pix is really cool:
11:50 < rxr> http://fun.drno.de/pics/windoof/windowsxp-problem.jpg
11:50 < rxr> netrunner: yes sure - so far it does what I want ...
11:58 < fussabtreter> hmmm. is a "ibm r6000 43p model 150" ppc supported by rock?
11:58 < rxr> should not be too hard to get it run on it
11:58 < rxr> cd-booting might not work yet
11:58 < rxr> wow:
11:58 < rxr> == 04/26/04 12:12:19 =[9]=> Finished building package balsa.
11:59 < fussabtreter> hmmm. ok... isos available?
11:59 < rxr> the usual PPC ones
11:59 < rxr> new ones will show up this days
11:59 < netrunner> rxr: what wow? you mean it built?
11:59 < fussabtreter> oki. iso.rocklinux.org? *thinking*
11:59 < rxr> .de
11:59 < netrunner> or it's ahead of time? 
11:59 < fussabtreter> ah. k. thx
12:00 < rxr> but 2.0.1 are on the way - the last PowerPC ones are older
12:00 < rxr> and will not boot on it
12:00 < rxr> the new ones might
12:00 < rxr> netrunner: yes - I'm happy this thig built
12:00 < fussabtreter> i c. hmm. when will they be available?
12:00 < rxr> hm - oh yes - my iBook clock is slightly screwed
12:00 < rxr> fussabtreter: next days
12:00 < BoS> rxr: where is the port descr for ppc?
12:00 < fussabtreter> oki. cool. thx. 
12:00 < rxr> they are finished for days - but need a test
12:00 < rxr> BoS: www.rocklinux.org/powerpc.html
12:01 < fussabtreter> btw, is there sourcecode available for 2.1, too, already?
12:01 < rxr> (--typos)
12:01 < rxr> fussabtreter: sure - SVN
12:01 < rxr> SVN trunk:HEAD
12:01 < BoS> rxr: thx
12:04 < fussabtreter> could someone please give me the ip of rocklinux.de? thx
12:04 < rxr> the iso is at iso.rocklinux.de ...
12:04 < fussabtreter> yeah. i'm waiting for the new one(s)
12:05 < rxr> ok ...
12:05 < fussabtreter> need to ask my bf if rock is ok, for his machine and so
12:08 < rxr> netrunner: font-size: done
12:08 < fussabtreter> and - someone could please tell me an fscking dns-server (public + anonym) because this one from freenet.de isn't working anymore *lalala*
12:10 < rxr> fussabtreter: setup a full autarc resolver
12:10 < fussabtreter> with fli4l?
12:12 < rxr> dont now that - just install the needed software (bind?) on-demand
12:12 < BoS> rxr: and the build desc :)
12:13 < fussabtreter> hmmm. this is a problem.. becauou just can install somethin, if you have  HD in this machine... :(
12:14 < rxr> BoS: ? you mean how to buidl the PPC thing?
12:15 < BoS> 8yes
12:15 < BoS> yes
12:15 < rxr> just as ROCK build always. Nothing special. The Handbook:
12:15 < rxr> http://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/products/rock-handbook/
12:16 < BoS> build under x86 with cd build and install or what ?
12:19 < rxr> you can cross build on x86 - but we currently do not support to cross build everything (that is on the TODO). You would get a minimal system
12:19 < rxr> normally you do full builds natively - either with a ROCK installation of an other distribution ...
12:21 < BoS> the current system are mandrake 9.1 ppc - any probs whit it?
12:21 < rxr> hm - tiny thinks maybe - like updating: sed, mktemp and/or bash
12:22 < rxr> but nothing serious (I expect / guess)
12:22 < rxr> the obvious bugs / shortcommings are detected in ./scripts/Check-System
12:23 < BoS> ok - lets start it :) thx
12:23 < rxr> BoS: have fun
12:24 < rxr> BoS: you are online via arcor in germany?
12:24 < BoS> i hope so - any days later ... 
12:24 < BoS> yes
12:24 < rxr> could you post:
12:25 < rxr> traceroute www.heise.de | head -n5
12:25 < BoS> mom rxr - but the dns isn't arcor 194.25.2.129 194.25.2.131
12:26 < BoS> her's the ouput from your question:
12:27 < rxr> I don't care about the DNS - I'm just interested in the latency characteristics of the core "dial-in" hops
12:28 < BoS> raceroute to www.heise.de (193.99.144.71), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
12:28 < BoS> 1  st-john (10.1.2.5)  0.646 ms  0.285 ms  0.236 ms
12:28 < BoS>  2  * * *
12:29 < BoS> 3  dre-145-253-16-113.arcor-ip.net (145.253.16.113)  25.185 ms  24.681 ms  24.658 ms
12:29 < BoS> 4  dre-145-254-6-9.arcor-ip.net (145.254.6.9)  34.637 ms  34.820 ms  34.670 ms
12:29 < BoS> 5  ffm-145-254-16-170.arcor-ip.net (145.254.16.170)  39.943 ms  39.969 ms  40.047 ms
12:29 < BoS> rxr: end of output
12:31 < rxr> ah - cool - may I ask for the overall ping latency to www.heise.de?
12:32 < BoS> 64 bytes from www.heise.de (193.99.144.71): icmp_seq=0 ttl=241 time=57.8 ms
12:32 < rxr> thanks;-)
12:33 < BoS> ok
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12:35 < holyolli> moin
12:44 < rxr> moin holyolli 
12:44 < holyolli> huhu rxr
12:48 < rxr> ;-)
12:50 < fussabtreter> gnarf. please kick me if i'm to lazy to do something which takes about 15 minutes... thx
12:54  * StefanG kicks fussabtreter 
12:55 < fussabtreter> thx. but i already replaced my fscking floppy from sp and so... :p
12:55 < StefanG> hehe :)
12:55 < StefanG> it was just preventive
12:56 < fussabtreter> blll :p nice boy
12:56 < rxr> netrunner: I now packaged kooldock - it will be in submaster after a test build ...
13:08 < rxr> netrunner: loaded up
13:10 < fussabtreter> http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/0,1518,296237,00.html rofl
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13:16 < netrunner> rxr: really cool!
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13:23 < fussabtreter> hi cchamilt 
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14:00 < rxr> damn crap todaay
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14:05 < daja77> what's up?
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14:07 < rxr> daja77: read the mailing list
14:08 < rxr> rock-devel
14:08 < rxr> aside that submaster sucks
14:08  * daja77 polling
14:08 < daja77> no comment on that ...
14:09 < rxr> why not?
14:10 < daja77> on submaster?
14:11 < rxr> whatever your "< daja77> no comment on that ..." was about ...
14:11 < daja77> on the submaster thing
14:12 < daja77> args damn fights
14:14 < netrunner> YES! my gf passed koma. after a long talk to the supervisor in the review :)
14:15 < rxr> koma what?
14:16 < netrunner> konkrete mathematik
14:16 < netrunner> the killer subject that throws out about 80% of informatik (diplom) students here
14:17 < netrunner> just look at these stats: http://wwwzenger.informatik.tu-muenchen.de/lehre/vorlesungen/konkr_math/03_04/klausur/noten.jpg
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14:23 < netrunner> weird layout: http://www.schwemme.de/
14:25 < holyolli> indeed...
14:31 < daja77> sigh, ok commented anyway
14:32 < netrunner> daja77: I am already your friend.
14:32 < daja77> netrunner: huh?
14:32 < netrunner> daja77: I just received an orkut invitation from you.
14:32 < daja77> args these damn suckers
14:33 < daja77> seems they autogenertated such mails
14:33 < netrunner> to already subscribed users?
14:34  * netrunner -> uni
14:35 < daja77> and to pending ones
14:39 < daja77> removed all pending ones
14:40 < daja77> orkut proves nicely that the invitation policy does not prevent idiots from joining
14:59 < rolla> peopel still go to orkut?
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15:01 < daja77> i haven't logged in for weeks, but i guess lots of ppl will ask why they got mail by me >_<
15:01 < rolla> :)
15:05 < fussabtreter> hmm. why changes [*] this is a cross-build between architectures the number of active packages from over 1000 to 50 ?
15:07 < rxr> fussabtreter: I mentioned this, this morning - we do not support cross build everything - and you should know this
15:07 < fussabtreter> ah so.. hmm. bad :(
15:08 < fussabtreter> (but good for my money box... don't need to download so much *hrhr*)
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15:22 < rxr> cu all in some hours ...
15:23 < BoS> which pkgs can i find the libaprutil?
15:23 < fussabtreter> subversion i guess
15:24 < tfing> in apache on my system
15:24 < BoS> my error was in the libaprutil - shared error 
15:25 < BoS> what can i do?
15:48 < netrunner> rxr: could you please check the cksum of kdeaddons? there are dots in it :/ (trunk)
15:58 < netrunner> ugh, might be a patch fetched from submaster ...
16:00 < netrunner> I sent a fix to submaster. svn log of the kdeaddons dir is on 1 init, so there is no smapped patch, no?
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16:43 < netrunner> damn, this lecture is filled up to the door  :/
16:47 < netrunner>  and  now one of the 20 guys stuck around me fartedd :(
16:48 < rolla> :)
17:01 < netrunner> ah, feee ;)
17:03 < netrunner> free I mean. I think they shouldn't sell sauerkraut for lunch.
17:03 < daja77> it is bavaria after all ^^
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17:09 < MadTux> hello.
17:09 < daja77> hi MadTux!
17:09 < holyolli> MadTux :)
17:10 < MadTux> daja77: !
17:10 < MadTux> alcoholy
17:11 < blindy> moin
17:11 < daja77> moin blindy 
17:11 < MadTux> blindy
17:12 < netrunner> hi MadTux and blindy
17:13 < MadTux> hi nety
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17:33 < blindy> netrunner: been hooked on wesnoth?
17:35 < daja77> it crashes here
17:38 < blindy> what opt?
17:38 < blindy> what version?
17:39 < daja77> default opts, 0.7.2 but i think the crash is sdl related
17:39 < blindy> oh
17:57 < daja77> it seems that the build skript don't catch an update when scripts/Config was not run again before the build ...
18:00 < blindy> in some cases, that is correth
18:00 < blindy> correct
18:00 < blindy> but you can run ./scripts/Config -cfg $config -oldconfig
18:00 < daja77> well perhaps, but i now think this explains some strange build errors i had
18:01 < daja77> hm i buolt without optimisation this time >_<
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18:10 < rxr> hi
18:11 < daja77> wb rxr 
18:12 < blindy> moin rxr
18:13 < daja77> k. restarting the whole build somehow this has craped out
18:19 < rxr> netrunner: I see the . in the kde package - it was auto generated and I have no idea how they crapped in
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18:22 < daja77> the gnome2.6 patch doesn't apply :(
18:26 < daja77> ah ic the openh323 package is already updated >_<
18:32 < blindy> hmm
18:32 < blindy> LVP chokes on the new builddir layout
18:32  * blindy busy fixing
18:33 < daja77> smap does not recognize when there is the patch file already which would made fixing things like that easier
18:33 < daja77> already downloaded i mean
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18:34 < rxr> blindy: btw. I should remove the LVP repository again? ...
18:35 < daja77> rxr guess your patch will not apply to trunk, cos the openh323 patch will be applied earlier
18:38 < blindy> rxr: no, why?
18:38 < blindy> rxr: it's just a minor change, but I need to run a test-build
18:39 < rxr> daja77: I already set the openh323 patch as applied - since merged in my patch
18:39 < rxr> and sm should just merge it
18:39 < rxr> blindy: I thought it is in trunk now - so you could do all inside ROCK itself
18:40 < blindy> ah, I see.
18:40 < blindy> I misunderstood
18:40 < daja77> it didn't
18:40 < rxr> hm - ah yes - just the sm sync might do this ...
18:40 < blindy> rxr: I'd like to continue active development in the lvp-rep and only merge the releases into the rock-trunk.
18:40 < rxr> but I do not know - read the source or complain at clifford 
18:41 < blindy> rxr: that way I can use the full support of svn and still have lvp directly in ROCK :-)
18:42 < daja77> i do not need to read the src to know why this happpens, anyway this was not a complaint, merley a hint
18:42 < rxr> but we also do not have a direct-working copy svn.... for ROCK Linux - why should we then have for lvp when you could use a local reposotiry and export as patch or submaster?
18:43 < rxr> daja77: I would need to read the source - because it is a bug and should not happen ...
18:43 < blindy> rxr: but if you'd like to remove the rep, just send me the dump and I'll reimport the rep here
18:43 < daja77> well this is the result of using patch ....
18:44 < daja77> patch can't handle such things
18:46 < daja77> this x.org package just changes the xfree package not creating a new one, should I vote against that?
18:46 < blindy> daja77: +++ package/x11/xorg
18:47 < rxr> daja77: id does add a new one
18:47 < daja77> oh good
18:48 < daja77> reading the patch again
18:49 < rxr> cu later
18:50 < daja77> ok then I'll include that in my build I guess
18:50 < daja77> cu rxr
18:51 < blindy> hmmm
18:51 < blindy> this might be a good test for my newly acquired RAM
18:54 < blindy> daja77: had a look at ROCK Sonar?
18:54 < daja77> not yet
18:54 < blindy> :(
18:54 < daja77> haven't tested rocket either :(
18:54 < blindy> me neither ;)
18:54 < blindy> just read that it _should_ work now
18:55 < blindy> or rather: first implementation
18:55 < daja77> well i could test it with the laptop when this build is finished, update via isdn is not that much fun
18:55 < blindy> indeed
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19:16 < mnemoc> moin
19:17 < holyolli> hola mnemoc
19:18 < blindy> moin moin
19:22 < mnemoc> moin holyolli, blindy 
19:23 < holyolli> huhu blindy :)
19:26 < blindy> moin holy :)
19:28 < blindy> hmm
19:29 < blindy> can someone explain to me why 400+MB RAM are used but if I add up all memory of all processes shown by top I only get around 50MB?
19:34 < valentin> did you press 'm' ?
19:34 < blindy> yeah
19:34 < blindy> the topmost has around 2000k RAM usage
19:35 < valentin> ps ax | wc
19:35 < blindy> root@kilbourne:~/lvp/trunk# ps ax | wc   
19:35 < blindy>      33     208    1550
19:35 < blindy> root@kilbourne:~/lvp/trunk# 
19:35 < valentin> strange.
19:36 < blindy> could it be JFS related?
19:36 < valentin> maybe - but this would be quite unormal IMO
19:37 < blindy> I've had this before, but usually X was running at the time with around 280 MB RAM used, so I didn't give it another thought
19:37 < blindy> but now I have the same
19:38 < valentin> which program did you call to print mem usage ?
19:38 < valentin> free ?
19:38 < blindy> yes
19:38 < valentin> and you looked at the second line ?
19:38 < valentin> third line
19:38 < blindy> second
19:39 < valentin> -/+ buffers/cache
19:40 < blindy> that's the correct values? then what's the second line?
19:41 < valentin> you mean the 'Mem:' line ?
19:41 < blindy> yeah
19:42 < valentin> well, thats _total_ mem usage inclusive disk cache.
19:42 < blindy> d'oh
19:42 < valentin> :)
19:42  * blindy returns EUSER
19:42 < valentin> :)
19:43  * valentin getting some food.
19:44  * mnemoc falling slept
19:44  * fussabtreter having trouble with a absolutely dumb person *GNARF*
19:45 < blindy> fussabtreter: that person in the mirror?
19:45  * blindy runs
19:45 < mnemoc> LOL
19:45 < fussabtreter> blindy: *kick* nah. a person which (!!!) every 2nd sentence is a lie
19:46 < blindy> fussabtreter: so either a teacher or a politician?
19:46 < blindy> nah, politicians don't tell the truth so often
19:48 < daja77> hi mnemoc 
19:49 < fussabtreter> blindy: nope. a dumb person, watching x serien at tv, riding much more than l-dressage (e,a,l,m,s) - what normally is just available if you're having a very good horse, years of knowledge in riding and so on... (and she told in a channel last year, that her horse has for over a year a "sehnenschaden" - so this horse is nothing for the big sport...)
19:50 < blindy> I have no idea what you're talking about
19:52  * daja77 too
19:52 < mnemoc> hi daja77, an ...owl?
19:52 < mnemoc> snd*
19:52 < fussabtreter> hehe. ok... 
19:52 < mnemoc> and*
20:05 < rxr> hi
20:05 < valentin> hi rxr
20:05 < blindy> re rxr 
20:07 < mnemoc> hi rxr
20:07 < mnemoc> behavior change in Create-CkSumPatch was desired or bug?
20:08 < mnemoc> (cksum.patch vs. stdout)
20:08  * daja77 desires this
20:08 < blindy> it's quite useful
20:10 < mnemoc> consistent, yes. more useful? i don't know
20:10 < blindy> ./scripts/Create-Cksum-Patch | patch -p1
20:10 < daja77> yep easier
20:11 < mnemoc> ./scripts/Create-Cksum-Patch | less ; ./scripts/Create-Cksum-Patch | patch -p1
20:11 < mnemoc> vs.
20:11 < mnemoc> ./scripts/Create-Cksum-Patch; patch -p1 < cksum.patch
20:12 < mnemoc> i don't like to apply blind :)
20:12 < rxr> mnemoc: I submitted it - more consistent - easier ... helps me ...
20:13 < mnemoc> ok :)
20:13 < rxr> mnemoc: me neither
20:13 < daja77> i have no problems with blind application
20:13 < rxr> but I like it more to hit arrow-up and type | patch -p1 then a new line with cksum or copy .patch and so on
20:13 < mnemoc> update blind applications sometimes damage the .desc file
20:13 < mnemoc> uhm.... rewrite:
20:14 < mnemoc> blind applications of the update script can produce damages in .desc files
20:15 < mnemoc> rxr: there are a few more consistent problems on the scripts.... i want to fix them someday
20:16 < rxr> mnemoc: proposse changes where you like ...
20:17 < mnemoc> some day ;)
20:17 < mnemoc> i'll go to lunch... cu :)
20:23 < rxr> jups
20:51 < blindy> hmm
20:51 < blindy> much faster :)
20:51 < blindy> bash in 2 minutes, glibc in 32
20:52 < rxr> what is faster
20:53 < blindy> tmpfs :)
20:53 < blindy> not building on a 7200 rpm disk but in RDRam :)
20:54 < rxr> how much % improvement?
20:55 < blindy> hmm recalling from memory I'd say 30-50
20:55 < blindy> glibc usually took around an hour to build
20:56 < rxr> those numbers are quite fuzzy - I do not expect a 50% speedup using tmpfs
20:56 < rxr> maybe some perccentage - but compiling is so less I/O - most in in cache ...
20:56 < blindy> that's why I say 30-50
20:56 < blindy> something in between
20:56 < rxr> you should really benchmark this - counting real number ...
20:56 < blindy> I know for a fact that glibc took short under an hour
20:56 < blindy> yeah
20:57 < blindy> will do a time ./scripts/Build-Target tomorrow
20:57 < blindy> or something like that
20:57 < blindy> tomorrow before I go to work
20:57 < rolla> yawn
21:12 < daja77> damn the gnome update eats the badwith i need for the kde update ^^
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21:47  * blindy --> bed
21:49 < amaury> thanks for visit Colombia
21:49 < amaury> for you help, and your conference
21:52 < amaury> chau
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21:52 < daja77> O_o
21:53 < rxr> ?
21:53 < rxr> colombia ? what converence ? ....
21:53 < daja77> mike gave a speech about rocklinux in colombia, iirc, guess that's what he was referring to
21:53 < rxr> hm
21:54 < daja77> what a pity that this guy had not more to telll
21:55 < rxr> yeah ...
21:56 < rolla> :)
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22:36 < fussabtreter> someone knows how "xfree86-dga" is called in xfree86config?
22:50 < fake> hi fussabtreter
22:50 < fussabtreter> hi fake 
22:50 < fake> it's in extmod
22:51 < fake> it's often switched off for stability
22:52 < fussabtreter> hmmmm. extmod? normally shouldn't be switched off by default (running xfree86-4.4.0), or am i wrong?
22:52 < fake> it's
22:52 < fake> Load  "extmod"
22:53 < fake> if there is anything below this line saying anything about "remove" or "disable", remove it
22:53 < fake> X.org or Xfree86?
22:53 < fussabtreter> xfree86
22:53 < fake> fine, so do i.
22:54 < fake> dga works here
22:54 < fake> but it's 4.3.99 for me
22:54 < fussabtreter> hmmmmmmmm. will give it a try. moment
22:55 < fussabtreter> hmm. ok. thx. :)
22:55 < fake> your'e welcome
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