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00:09 < rxr> mnemoc: we currently discuss the flex patch and agree that it is too risky ...
00:11 < valentin> mnemoc: are you shure undefining all those macros won't break anything ?
00:11 < valentin> sure
00:11 < valentin> why do you need to undef them ?
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00:24 < rxr> hi nookie_ 
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00:31 < SMP> Deleting       package/rene/k3b
00:31 < SMP> svn: Commit failed (details follow):
00:31 < SMP> svn: Out of date: 'package/rene/k3b' in transaction '3z'
00:31 < SMP> I hate it, I just hate it ...
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01:52 < fake> auf dem ap?
01:52 < fake> oops
01:55 < rxr> ;-)
03:59 < rxr> *wow - the slience of #rocklinux at night*
04:07 < rxr> done
04:33 < rxr> ^- oops wrong channel
05:07 < rxr> hm
05:07 < rxr> /usr/lib/libc_nonshared.a(elf-init.oS)(.text+0x1e): In function `__libc_csu_init':
05:07 < rxr> /home/rock-linux/src.glibc23.1078743524.3092.2224907555/glibc-2.3.2/csu/elf-init.c:64: undefined reference to `__init_array_end'
05:07 < rxr> /usr/lib/libc_nonshared.a(elf-init.oS)(.text+0x22):/home/rock-linux/src.glibc23.1078743524.3092.2224907555/glibc-2.3.2/csu/elf-init.c:64: undefined reference to `__init_array_end'
05:07 < rxr> /usr/lib/libc_nonshared.a(elf-init.oS)(.text+0x26):/home/rock-linux/src.glibc23.1078743524.3092.2224907555/glibc-2.3.2/csu/elf-init.c:64: undefined reference to `__init_array_start'
05:37 < rxr> ah - cool - now I have a Xft anti-aliasing XEmacs ...
05:39 < rxr> n8 all
06:56 < netrunner> moin
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09:05  * netrunne1 reading http://www.paulgraham.com/nerds.html
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10:30 < sascha___> hi all
10:33 < netrunner> hi sascha
10:39 < sascha___> hi netrunner 
10:40 < sascha___> i've got the strange problem, that i can't change my nick =(
10:41 < netrunner> sascha___: maybe someone else is online with the nick you requested.
10:42 < sascha___> no,  this nick isn't online
10:42 < sascha___> 09:37 -!- link_ The hand of the deity is upon thee, thy nick may not change (#freenode)
10:43 < sascha___> what does that mean?
10:43 < tfing> maybe you are in a moderated channel
10:43 < sascha___> this has nothing to do with a nick change...
10:44 < sascha___> strange.
10:49 < sascha___> tfing: it's the same thing, when i do '/nick link' in the statusbar =/
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10:50 < holyolli> moin
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10:53 < link_> weee it worked :D
10:56 < BoS> moin
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11:12 < netrunner> rxr: [10:03] <|GOOSE|> Bingener Strasse 40a, 80993 Muenchen, Moosach
11:12 < netrunner> argl, I meant Forbidden
11:12 < netrunner> You don't have permission to access /irclog/ on this server.
11:12 < netrunner> damn windows needs STRG-C to copy, not only marking ;)
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12:06 < [MCode]> anybody here.. 
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12:17 < valentin> moin
13:23 < rxr> moin
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--- Log opened Tue Apr 27 13:41:01 2004
13:41 < rxr> netrunner: irclog directory permission corrected
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14:07 < daja77> hi everybody
14:08 < daja77> anybody else havin binutils failing in stage 0?
14:21  * daja77 beats the µClibc maintainer
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14:56 < rolla> re
14:58 < daja77> hi rolla 
14:58 < rolla> hallo daja77 
15:30 < rxr> hi daja77 rolla 
15:30 < daja77> hi rxr
15:40  * jsaw now checking gcc34 package (by trying a fresh build)
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15:51 < rxr> hi togg 
15:51 [Users #rocklinux]
15:51 [ Aard    ] [ darix       ] [ ija    ] [ mnemoc   ] [ rxr    ] [ th_     ] 
15:51 [ blindy  ] [ dsoul       ] [ jsaw   ] [ netcrow  ] [ SMP    ] [ togg    ] 
15:51 [ BoS     ] [ fake        ] [ k3t_   ] [ netrunner] [ snyke  ] [ true    ] 
15:51 [ clifford] [ Freak       ] [ luckz  ] [ nookie   ] [ StefanG] [ valentin] 
15:51 [ daja77  ] [ fussabtreter] [ mistik1] [ rolla    ] [ tfing  ] 
15:51 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 29 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 29 normal]
16:06 < mnemoc> moin
16:07 < mnemoc> daja77: uclibc was an O package.... should not interfear
16:09 < mnemoc> rxr: i build a minimal with that flex without problems, the thing is that they no longer 'allow' the use of those macros in the third part of the flex file. and that policy change breaks stuff :)
16:11 < rxr> OMG - linux kernel:
16:11 < rxr> On Tue, 27 Apr 2004, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote:
16:11 < rxr> >
16:11 < rxr> > LinuxAnt offers binary only modules without any sources. To circumvent our
16:11 < rxr> > MODULE_LICENSE checks LinuxAnt has inserted a "\0" into their declaration:
16:11 < rxr> >
16:11 < rxr> > MODULE_LICENSE("GPL\0for files in the \"GPL\" directory; for others, only
16:11 < rxr> > LICENSE file applies");
16:12 < mnemoc> uhm
16:14 < rxr> yes - a very BIG UHM !!!
16:15 < mnemoc> how can GPL$something mean bin-only?
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16:16 < holyolli> moin
16:16 < mnemoc> isn't that a fault due to a badly intensioned use of the word gpl?
16:17 < mnemoc> i understand that there is a 'good' thing in allowing kernel to load more kind of drivers, even non-open source ones, but...
16:17 < daja77> mnemoc: the uClibc patches do not apply to binutils and break the build when this package is activated, which it was by some strange accident
16:18 < mnemoc> uhm? let me see
16:18 < daja77> hm i should have kept the err files i guess :\
16:19 < mnemoc> it's a build problem or a not-applied patch?
16:19 < daja77> not applied patches
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16:21 < mnemoc> i'll rediff it asap :)
16:21 < mnemoc> it was diffed for binutils-2.14.90.0.7 ;)
16:22 < daja77> ic
16:22 < rxr> mnemoc: this is just to prevent tainting
16:22 < rxr> mnemoc: the kernel of course loads binary only stuff - but taints it
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16:23 < rxr> mnemoc: the GPL\0... does prevent the tainting due to a tiny obvious strncmp or so check
16:24 < rxr> Rusty might have never tought about people trying such tricks - especially since the obviously know how the tainting works and how it is marked - so they theoretically can now be suied to open their code due to the GPL lincense enfrocement
16:24 < mnemoc> yeah, sure. if they want to use third-party drivers they can't do those checks, but they can't use GPL name on they. it's your own risk to use those modules, isn't it?
16:25  * mnemoc thinking
16:28 < mnemoc> rxr: there is any way to taint windows drivers?
16:31 < daja77> uhm do i get this right, there are suckers out there who do not release under gpl (which is fine for me) but cheating by claiming they did to prevent the tainting message?
16:32 < rxr> mnemoc: hm? Windoes drivers?
16:32 < rxr> daja77: yes
16:32 < rxr> exactly
16:32 < mnemoc> yeah, for... e.g. wifi cards :)
16:32 < daja77> sucks
16:33 < rxr> but they do not need this technically - for the functionality
16:33 < daja77> i know
16:33 < rxr> they just to do for buitification reasons
16:33 < daja77> the tainting message does no harm
16:33 < daja77> it is done by nvidia or sorcus drivers as well, at least the first work fine here
16:35 < daja77> erh i meant they do not try to supress the message
16:36 < rxr> hm - this damn wdiff never worked for me:
16:36 < rxr> $ wdiff 1 2
16:36 < rxr> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
16:36 < daja77> :(
16:36 < mnemoc> oh
16:36 < rxr> in any case I tried this piece of C crap it ever seg-faulted
16:36 < rxr> I never saw it's intended output ...
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16:39 < daja77> anyone wants generic isos with gnome 2.6 and kde 3.2.2 when this build is done
16:39 < mnemoc> (aarg... bintuils has changes a lot :-\ ... rediff will be hard)
16:39 < daja77> why the heck they need to patch binutils anyway
16:39 < mnemoc> to include their $archtarget
16:40 < daja77> O_o
16:40 < mnemoc> it's not -gnu$, it's -uclibc$ :)
16:40 < daja77> *shrug*
16:42 < mnemoc> uhm... where has the demangler gone??
16:44 < mnemoc> wow! god bless config_helper.so :)
16:47 < rxr> mnemoc: big speedup?
16:48 < mnemoc> amazing
16:48 < mnemoc> in my crappy box
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16:57 < tp> hi all :)
16:58 < tp> just (almost) finished my first compile of rovk linux, awesome, much impressed with the nice logical layout!
16:59 < tp> but I have a small problem, its the old dietlibc error, can anyone please give me a few pointers ?
17:00 < tp> Creating initrd data:
17:00 < tp> -> Create linuxrc binary.
17:00 < tp> ./scripts/Build-Target: line 8: diet: command not found
17:01 < tp> I've tried "root@gronk:/var/www/rock-src-2.0.0# ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg -cfg dietlibc" but getERROR: No configuration 'dietlibc' found!" ?? what am I doing erong ? "
17:02 < tp> my development system is a Gentoo box about a year old now
17:03 < tp> thanks in advance for any tips, as its 01:00 here I'm off to bed, will watch this space ...
17:03 < tp> Kudos to the Rock developers, a fantastic distro
17:03 < holyolli> hi tp
17:04 < tp> oh hi :)
17:04 < holyolli> tp: it seems as if some of the other guys have gone for a coffee ;-)
17:04 < tp> was just about to hit the sac (brain hurts, pushing what little grey matter I have way too far again)
17:04 < tp> sack
17:05 < tp> would you have any tips on my problem holyolli ?
17:05 < holyolli> tp: i don't know very much about that dietlibc issue - the best would be if you ask rxr or daja77
17:05 < tp> regarding the dietclib problem ?
17:05 < tp> ahh
17:05 < tp> what time is it there ?
17:06 < tp> I'm in australia
17:06 < tp> thanks holyolli
17:06 < dsoul> check mailinglists :)
17:06 < holyolli> tp: oh. well, must of us reside in europe. here in germany it is 17:06 now
17:06 < tp> how about the Emerge-Pkg problem ?
17:06 < mnemoc> tp: $config != $package
17:06 < holyolli> jepp
17:07 < mnemoc> tp: to create a $config you must have used ./script/Config -cfg $config
17:07 < holyolli> with -cfg you supply a config, not a packagename
17:07 < tp> I did, and found a few references, but I'm still a bit lost
17:07 < mnemoc> ls ./config
17:07 < blindy> moin
17:07 < tp> ahh, I *beginning* to get a clue
17:07 < mnemoc> ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg [ -cfg $config ] $package
17:08 < holyolli> moin blindy
17:08 < blindy> damn, damn, DAMN
17:08 < blindy> compiling XFree statically needs >800MB
17:08 < holyolli> blindy??
17:08 < tp> mnemoc: thanks
17:08 < mnemoc> the $config set the optimization and teach Emerge-Package what other things you have in your system
17:08 < mnemoc> hi blindy 
17:08 < mnemoc> tp: good luck ;)
17:08 < blindy> holyolli: my build broke with "No more space left on device" using tmpfs
17:08 < tp> mnemoc: whats missing from my command here ? "./scripts/Emerge-Pkg -cfg dietlibc"
17:08 < holyolli> blindy: ah. 
17:09 < tp> I don't understand the $config 
17:09 < mnemoc> tp: what your wrote means: install <null> in my local system using ./config/dietlibc as config
17:10 < tp> oh
17:10 < dsoul> tp Emerge-Pkg -- help :)
17:10 < dsoul> or handbook :)
17:11 < rxr> tp: regarding dietlibc
17:11 < rxr> you need dietlibc install on your system in order to build the cd boot-code
17:11 < tp> how about I put it this way ? I need to manually install dietlibc can someone give me a pointer how to do it ?
17:11 < rxr> just run Build-Pkg (or Emerge-Pkg) dietlibc - to install it ad-hoc
17:11 < tp> rxr: thanks, I know that following reading the mail lists
17:11 < mnemoc> but he has to set a config first
17:12 < tp> yes I don't understand the config part
17:12 < blindy> rxr: any thoughts on Sonar?
17:12 < tp> I'm a electronics tech by profesion and a lousy coder :)
17:12 < dsoul> tp ./scripts/Config -cfg <configlabel>
17:12 < mnemoc> tp: on rock you can't just install a package, you have to set a 'context'
17:12 < dsoul> then set config options
17:13 < tp> ahh
17:13 < rxr> blindy: I want to add this to the regression testeer side - to search in the full build regresion test data I have lying around anyway ...
17:13 < tp> my gentoo bias is showing ?
17:13 < dsoul> and then ./scripts/Emrge-Pkg package-name
17:13 < dsoul>  ./scripts/Emrege-Pkg -cfg <configlabel> package-name :)
17:14 < blindy> rxr: hmm... being able to search through recent trunk might be one thing, but what about releases?
17:14 < tp> dsoul: so "system" would be a suitable context here ?
17:16 < tp> dsoul: actually the last contest I used was "bootdisk"
17:17 < mnemoc> tp: ls ./config
17:17 < tp> k
17:17 < dsoul> tp in -cfg it doesnt mater how you name it :)
17:18 < tp> root@gronk:/var/www/rock-src-2.0.0# ls ./config
17:18 < tp> bootdisk  default  system
17:18 < dsoul> its only a name :)
17:18 < mnemoc> what did you set for each of those configs?
17:19 < tp> just system, then later bootdisk
17:19 < mnemoc> ok
17:19 < dsoul> tp read the handbook, it helps realy :)
17:19 < tp> as I worked my way thru the manual
17:19 < mnemoc> tp: ./script/config 
17:19 < tp> I have been, there is no way I'd have come this far without it :)
17:19 < mnemoc> tp: then set your architecture
17:20 < tp> I did that
17:20 < mnemoc> tp: and exit
17:20 < tp> no problems there
17:20 < tp> yep
17:20 < mnemoc> ./script/Emerge-Pkg dietlibc
17:20 < tp> I got to the end of the first build
17:20 < mnemoc> just that
17:20 < dsoul> tp cool:)
17:20 < tp> root@gronk:/var/www/rock-src-2.0.0# ./script/Emerge-Pkg dietlibc
17:20 < tp> bash: ./script/Emerge-Pkg: No such file or directory
17:21 < dsoul> scripts :)
17:21 < tp> but at the lst stage, just before building initrd ? I got the diet error as I'm building the router package
17:21 < tp> this P4 has been going about 7 hrs compiling everything and I couldnt believ that I'd had no errors so far!
17:22 < dsoul> tp they will come :P
17:22 < tp> rock is the 3rd distro Ive tried so I can tailor my own builds
17:22 < tp> hehe
17:22 < tp> yeah they always do
17:22 < dsoul> :)
17:22 < tp> but I'm cool that way
17:23 < tp> I've been using nothing but Linux on the desktop since 1997, and I'm very confident with linux, but a crap programmer as I've already admitted 
17:24 < tp> I scrape by doing small industrial embedded designs
17:24 < dsoul> its not so bad 
17:25 < tp> gack 'scripts', the penny drops
17:25 < tp> == 01:25:05 =[9]=> Building base/dietlibc [0.25.0-rxr 2.0.0].
17:25 < tp> I gotta say, I think Rock is awesome
17:25 < tp> yeah all os suck :)
17:26 < tp> but my coding sucks the worst ;-)
17:26 < tp> although my electronics designs arent too bad
17:26 < mnemoc> =)
17:27 < dsoul> lol
17:27 < tp> thanks very much for the help folks
17:27 < mnemoc> now, read the handbook again :p
17:27 < tp> mnemoc: I agree, I think 10 times will be necessary to get it thru this thick skull of mine
17:28 < tp> is there a html package of the handbook anywhere ?
17:28 < tp> I have the ps one but gv sucks for flying around a handbook 
17:28 < mnemoc> the handbook is like a philosophical text, each time you read it to get something new from it :)
17:28 < tp> heh, yeah food for 100 years for me ;-)
17:29 < rxr> you need to wget it recursively - no HTML tarball
17:30 < tp> I was tempted, but I feel like a pirate doing that, wierd hey ?
17:31 < mnemoc> rxr: crontab snapshot releases :)
17:31 < tp> gack, I'm slowly working my way thru the mailing list!
17:31 < tp> Creating isolinux setup:
17:31 < tp> -> Extracting isolinux boot loader.
17:31 < tp> tar (child): /var/www/rock-src-2.0.0/download/bootdisk/syslinux-2.02.tar.bz2: Cannot open: No such file or directory
17:31 < mnemoc> tp: ./scripts/Download -required
17:31 < mnemoc> and re-read the handbook
17:31 < tp> I'm on a 33.3 k modem
17:31 < tp> heh, ok ok :)
17:32 < mnemoc> you can't build without downloading, sorry
17:32 < tp> is there no more pity in the world for unbrilded impatience ?
17:32 < tp> I have been downloading for days :)
17:32 < dsoul> :)
17:32 < tp> I have about 200mb of source
17:33 < mnemoc> download in other place ;)  work, univ, neighbor,...
17:33 < tp> yeah I am going to a dsl place thursday and will get what I can ...
17:33 < rxr> hm
17:33 < rxr> sed question:
17:34 < rxr> shouldn't put -e 's/$/:/' a colon at the end of _each_ line?
17:34 < rxr> it works for all but the first
17:34 < rxr> sed bug ?
17:34 < mnemoc> /g ? ;)
17:34 < rxr> hm - when used as single command it wors  - but not in me long -e chain - strange
17:35 < rxr> g is multiple in line
17:35 < mnemoc> uhm...
17:35 < mnemoc> oh
17:36 < mnemoc> sed -e 's,$,:,' worked for me
17:36 < mnemoc> on every line
17:36 < mnemoc> GNU sed version 3.02
17:37 < rxr> yes - here too - but not in a long -e chain
17:38 < rxr> it seems 
17:38 < rxr> -e 's/ /\n/g' ie evil
17:38 < mnemoc> tr ?
17:39 < rxr> I do not want so many Unix tool dependencies - I wanted one sed line ...
17:40 < tp> pardon me again friendly Rock folks :)
17:40 < blindy> rxr: so, should I continue work on Sonar or just dispose of it and leaving it up to you?
17:40 < mnemoc> sed is one-pass-only or it rewinds?
17:41 < tfing> one-pass only
17:41 < tp> can anyone please help me with this or do I need to read the manual again ;-)
17:41 < tp> router's and pacakge/*/syslinux must be updated to 2.08
17:42 < mnemoc> ./scripts/Create-PkgUpdate syslinux-2.08 | patch -p1
17:42 < tfing> -p0
17:42 < tp> mnemoc: :)
17:42 < rxr> mnemoc: IIRC the 2.0.0 release might not yet include the dynamic version extraction in the bootdisk target -maybe a tiny change is necessary there, too
17:43 < mnemoc> ./package/x86/syslinux/syslinux.desc <--- patch -p1
17:44 < tp> root@gronk:/var/www/rock-src-2.0.0# ./scripts/Create-PkgUpdate syslinux-2.08 | patch -p0
17:44 < tp> bash: ./scripts/Create-PkgUpdate: No such file or directory
17:44 < tfing> PkgUpdatePatch
17:44 < tp> oh no, so close and yet ...
17:44 < tfing> ./scripts/Create-PkgUpdPatch 
17:46 < tp> [ syslinux-2.08 ]
17:46 < tp> patching file ./package/x86/syslinux/syslinux.desc
17:46 < tp> bingo :)
17:46 < tp> thanks tfing!
17:49 < tp> -> Extracting isolinux boot loader.
17:49 < tp> tar (child): /var/www/rock-src-2.0.0/download/bootdisk/syslinux-2.02.tar.bz2: Cannot open: No such file or directory
17:49 < tp> bummer, looks like the 2.02 is hard coded as per a mailing list article I read
17:50 < tp> "target/bootdisk/x86/build.sh has syslinux-2.0.2 hardcoded"
17:51 < tp> should the PkgUpdatePatch have changed target/bootdisk/x86/build.sh ?
17:51 < mnemoc> tp: you can use <tab> key to complete while you write and ensure you got the right name ;)
17:51 < tp> true :)
17:52 < mnemoc> tp: vi target/bootdisk/x86/build.sh
17:52 < tp> yeah was just doing it mnemoc
17:53 < tp> he we go again ... almost there !
17:54 < tp> Creating ISO filesystem description.
17:54 < tp> -> Creating bootdisk/isofs directory..
17:54 < tp> -> Creating isofs.txt file ..
17:54 < tp> finished!!
17:55 < tp> YAHOO!
17:55 < tp> many thanks and salutations to the friendly Europeans here :)
17:58 < rxr> hey cool - GMSP (http://gsmp.rocklinux-consulting.de) has more commits then ROCK Linux in the last days ;-)
17:58 < rxr> http://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/
17:58 < rolla> god luck tp
17:58 < rolla> s/god/good/
17:59 < tp> awesome, simply awesome!
18:00  * tp fires up the old dual ppro for a floppy install!
18:03 < rxr> .oO (Floppy install - this ugly word - we should test it more often)
18:03 < mnemoc> tp: btw, not everyone here lives in europe
18:04 < rolla> very true
18:04 < mnemoc> rxr: CD install is a hacked floppy install, then floppy install should work, isn't it?
18:04 < rxr> mnemoc: rolla: greeting over there ;-)
18:05 < tp> mnemoc: oh sorry I also include my thanks and salutations to all those not living in europe :)
18:05 < mnemoc> :p
18:05 < rxr> mnemoc: but floppy install is this ugly FreeDOS loader thingy ...
18:05 < mnemoc> outch
18:05 < rolla> :-D
18:05 < rxr> ok - me off - I hope to bit back in the night
18:05 < mnemoc> freedos is about to release 1.0
18:07 < tp> whoo freedos!
18:07 < tp> I used it for years to run a dos PIC programmer under Linux!
18:09 < tp> and freedos worked fine :)
18:09 < tp> so far so good this old 1998 box wants floppy number 2 now!
18:10 < dsoul> ive tryied floppy install some time ago but it wont worked :/
18:11  * mnemoc kicks dsoul 
18:12 < tp> I'm doing it now, so we will soon know :)
18:12 < tp> floppy 2 was ok 
18:12 < dsoul> :P
18:13 < dsoul> there was a problem with ramdisk, it was too small
18:13 < tp> of course its hard to get good floppies from my pile of old floppies!
18:13 < dsoul> that was simple to workaround
18:13 < rxr> hm - Asus ships FreeDOS ;-) ?!?
18:13 < rxr> http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/crashfreebios2.htm
18:14 < mnemoc> rxr: reads what freedos said about
18:14 < tp> why not ship freedos ?
18:14 < mnemoc> they ship a randomly choosen shapshot
18:14 < dsoul> but when i wanted to install from net i needed bigger kernel :)
18:16 < rxr> so - finally ok
18:17 < tp> rxr ? yeah I finished the compile and am now loading the floppies into a old dual ppro
18:17 < tp> I pretty much worked my way thru the probs in the mailing list
18:17 < tp> with help from you folks here of course :)
18:18 < rxr> I meant finally off -> away sorry for the typo
18:18 < rxr> cu later
18:18 < mnemoc> cu rxr
18:19 < tp> k rxr see ya thanks for the help :)
18:21 < tp> floppy 3 ok
18:27 < tp> 5th and last floppy loading atm ...
18:28  * mnemoc anxious
18:28 < tp> nice feedback of whats happening on the screen
18:28 < tp> lol
18:28 < tp> crap error on the floppy!
18:29 < tp> abort! ignore! retry! isnt an error I see much thesedays :)
18:30 < tp> this is an old dual ppro with 32 megs ram
18:31 < tp> floppy 5 finshed ... booting the kernel
18:31 < tp> scsi disc found!
18:31 < tp> I'm dreaming, thisa is too easy
18:31 < tp> oh no ...
18:32 < tp> kmod failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k binfmt-006a errno = 8
18:32 < tp> ??
18:35 < mnemoc> ignore :)
18:35 < tp> its a lonk screen of them
18:35 < tp> long
18:35 < mnemoc> always the same error?
18:36 < tp> yeah, something else flashes by occasonally but I cant see what it is
18:36 < tp> its in a loop 
18:36 < tp> would a cd boot be any different I wonder ?
18:37 < mnemoc> i hope
18:37 < tp> I'll try burning a cd then
18:37 < tp> this is fun :)
18:38 < mnemoc> ROCK is fun and you learn a *lot* =)
18:39 < tp> yeah, I'm already think of a rock desktop
18:39 < tp> but better get this roiuter working first
18:39 < mnemoc> router is unmaintained iirc
18:41 < tp> thats cool
18:42 < tp> root@gronk:/var/www/rock-src-2.0.0# ./scripts/Create-ISO mycdset bootdisk system
18:42 < tp>   [02:41:03] Removing old files with same prefix ...
18:42 < tp>   [02:41:03] Reading configs and creating ISO index ...
18:42 < tp> Multiple boot options found!
18:42 < tp> oh oh what have I done now ?
18:43 < mnemoc> you created an iso named 'mycdset' booting with 'bootdisk' and containing a build of the config named 'system'
18:46 < tp> I don't think it did create the iso, I cant find it in bootdisk/isofs or any other dir
18:47 < mnemoc> it's at tree-root
18:49 < tp> hmm I cant see it, better so a find
18:49 < tp> hmm I cant see it, better do a find
18:51 < mnemoc>  Multiple boot options found! <--- that was pasted or written by you?
18:51 < tp> pasted
18:51 < mnemoc> outch
18:52 < tp> maybe thats why the floppy install barfed ?
18:53 < mnemoc> i don't know :|
18:54 < tp> me neither :)
18:55 < mnemoc> great :p
18:56 < tp> ah well, such are new things ...
18:56 < tp> the menues etc are in the dir for the iso
--- Log opened Tue Apr 27 23:19:38 2004
23:19 < daja> crap dfn is down again
23:20 < fussabtreter> holyolli: hmmm. ok... at least google-queries on arbeitsrecht.de dont help me
23:20 < valentin> daja: here in berlin this happens often
23:20 < rxr> dfn or gsmp.tfh-berlin.de
23:20 < fussabtreter> hi daja , valentin , rxr 
23:20 < daja> rxr: dfn dresden
23:20 < daja> the node my university is connected to
23:20 < daja> hi valentin, fussabtreter
23:20 < MadTux> hi daja  :)
23:21 < rxr> hi daja MadTux holyolli valentin and *
23:21 < fussabtreter> hi MadTux 
23:22 < rolla> hallo rxr
23:22 < fussabtreter> *jump* !!! my holidays normally will be ok :))) *stein vom herzen fall*
23:23 < rolla> I am dreaming of buying a prosche :)
23:24 < rolla> a used one that is ;)
23:24 < rxr> rolla: cool ;-)
23:24 < rolla> yeah I think it will be fun to work on
23:29 < MadTux> *HI rxr*
23:29 < MadTux> oh he did greet back
23:30 < nookie> Hey MadTux 
23:30 < nookie> hi rolla, rxr 
23:30 < MadTux> hi n00kie
23:36 < fussabtreter> MadTux: ! :)
23:37  * fussabtreter = owl
23:40 -!- MadTux [~mike@master.hack-solutions.com] has quit ["Lost terminal"]
23:44 < mnemoc> re
23:45 < daja> re mnemoc
23:45 < fussabtreter> hi mnemoc 
23:46 < mnemoc> hi ${daja%77}, $owl
23:47 < nookie> huhu mnemoc :)
23:47 < mnemoc> hi nookie
23:53 < rxr> hi mnemoc 
23:53 < mnemoc> hi rxr
23:54 < fake> rolla: get a cool, old, rusty VW Bus ;)
23:54 < holyolli> wanna buy one?
23:54 < holyolli> <-- has one ;-)
23:54 < fake> http://f4k3.net/~fake/bus/
23:55 < fake> ;P
23:56 < nookie> fake: Nice, your own bus?
23:56  * fussabtreter is sneaking into a dark corner of the room and whispers silently "goodbye"
23:56  * fake grabs a megaphone, aiming at owl
23:57 < fake> WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY?
23:57  * daja got a buis too
23:57 < fake> daja's got a tank
23:57 < daja> *gg*
23:57 < fake> an encapsulated transportation device
23:57 < holyolli> does anybody know where to get an engine?
23:58 < holyolli> (for the t3 - a standard diesel engine)
23:58 < fake> holyolli: schrottplatz?
23:58 < holyolli> fake: i meant a _runnable_ engine... ;-)
23:58 < rxr> fake: and what do you do with your bus? Putting it full with computer stuff?
23:58 < fake> holyolli: rear or front?
23:59 < holyolli> fake: ?
23:59 < fake> rxr: what would you do?
23:59 < daja> n8
23:59 < holyolli> fake: a standard t3 with 1,6l diesel
23:59 < holyolli> heckantrieb
23:59 < fake> n8 daja!
23:59 < holyolli> n8 daja
23:59 < fake> holyolli: if you can't get one on the schrottplatz it might be cheaper to buy a complete used t3
--- Log closed Wed Apr 28 00:00:23 2004