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--- Log opened Wed Apr 28 00:00:23 2004 --- Day changed Wed Apr 28 2004 00:00 < holyolli> fake: hm. 00:00 < fake> rxr: the high roof is made of some carbon 'faser', not metal, perfect for hiding antennae ;) 00:01 < rxr> ;-) 00:11 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-29-2.reverse.qsc.de] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:16 < fake> wow 00:16 < fake> internet access is a constitutional right in estland 00:24 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M496P023.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 00:30 -!- nookie [~nookie@M367P015.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 00:45 < mnemoc> *yawn* 00:50 * valentin # sleep (5*60*60) 01:04 < rxr> valentin: hey - you cheat - you commented this line off! 01:07 < netrunner> 881 builds total, 184 completed fine, 1 with errors. 01:08 * netrunner got home and relocates to bed. 01:09 < rxr> n8 netrunner 01:19 -!- MadTux [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 01:19 < MadTux> re. 01:22 < rxr> hi MadTux 01:23 < MadTux> rxr: i have a quick question for you.. are there are any sparc isos yet? 01:23 < mnemoc> hi funnytuxie 01:23 < rxr> MadTux: nope - SPARC is still my part-time project ... 01:23 < rxr> sorry 01:24 < MadTux> rxr: i got an sparc at home but i need something to install on it which wouldn't give me much problems building rock... if you can give me some suggestions i can do some help 01:25 < rxr> I could dump my U5 config to CD ... 01:25 < rxr> I hope you got some ultra-sparc? 01:25 < MadTux> ultra 5.. 01:25 < rxr> s/config/whole disk content -- passwords/ 01:25 < MadTux> rxr: that could be helpfull 01:26 < rxr> hm - or only my latest built .gems ... 01:26 < rxr> hm 01:26 < rxr> you could mine -i them on another box ... 01:27 < MadTux> lets try opention 2 first 01:27 < rxr> MadTux: does this have some day 01:27 < rxr> MadTux: I would reverse my free time in the next days to get the sparc64 bits on the CD boot correct 01:28 < rxr> then you could use it just normal - even when the boot-code is not yet polished and not in ROCK - and the sparc32 bits trap allignments and such ... 01:28 < rxr> but I think the sparc64 part could be ready until the weekend ... 01:29 < MadTux> well my main motivation is to contribute on rock sparc64 stuff.. just helpme get the tools and i will help you get rid of some work load 01:40 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@p54803B9B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:40 -!- blindy [~blindcode@pD958FEB2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 01:40 -!- blindcoder is now known as blindy 02:00 < rxr> == 01:59:58 =[9]=> Building rene/xemacs-beta [21.5.17 2.1.0-DEV]. 02:18 < rxr> ok - final build?: 02:18 < rxr> == 02:18:34 =[9]=> Building rene/xemacs-beta [21.5.17 2.1.0-DEV]. 02:32 < rxr> no it wasn't 02:33 < rxr> anyone still alive? 02:36 * MadTux . 02:38 < jsaw> meep 02:38 < MadTux> greetings jsaw 02:38 < jsaw> hi MadTux , rxr 02:42 < rxr> ah cool 02:42 < rxr> hi jsaw 02:42 < rxr> I just package this Xft enabled XEmacs 21.5.17 ... 02:43 < rxr> and this package includes some rather unusual ROCK hacks ... (to make ths beast build ...) 02:45 < jsaw> unusual ROCK hacks? 02:45 < rxr> yes - like overwriting eval_config_command ... 02:45 < rxr> hm - damn this does also not work - I need to invent s.th. new ... 02:45 < jsaw> ic 02:46 < MadTux> inspired rxr? 02:46 < jsaw> me got a different problem with openoffice: build breaks with "argument list too long" 02:46 < rxr> inspired? No bored from stangely packages software - using auto* dung from years ago 02:46 < rxr> jsaw: inside OO scripts - or in ROCK scripts 02:47 < rxr> ah - no it work - cool 02:47 * rxr was blinded or so 02:47 < jsaw> looks like dmake problem (everything is fine, if I follow all the steps by hand) 02:48 < jsaw> some env variables passed by cmd_wrapper maybe? don't know. will take some more time to investigate 02:49 < jsaw> ups, s/argument list too long/environment list too long/ 02:49 -!- jhuebel [~jhuebel@216.61.131.173] has joined #rocklinux 02:50 < jhuebel> Evening all... 02:50 < jhuebel> Who's working on the AMD64 port? 02:50 < jsaw> hi jhuebel 02:50 < jhuebel> jsaw: hiya 02:50 < jsaw> .oO(who's providing amd64 hw?) 02:51 < jhuebel> No, just who has had a chance to work on the port... 02:51 < MadTux> i think rxr was 02:51 < jhuebel> Hmmm... K 02:51 < jsaw> that q is directly connected to the question of having the hw at hand... 02:52 < jhuebel> Yeah, I saw that on the site. 02:53 < rxr> I did some bits - clifford some others 02:53 < rxr> we have no permanent hardware .. 02:53 < jhuebel> Hmmm... K. 02:59 < jhuebel> I have amd64 hardware. I'm evaluating source-based distros right now to see if I may be helpful in getting the amd64 port off the ground. 03:00 < jhuebel> Athlon64 3000+. Hella fast, even though it's the "low-end" Athlon64. 03:00 < jhuebel> I should mention that I'm the lead dev for the Gentoo/amd64 port. But I like to help out wherever I'm useful. 03:01 * jhuebel smiles. 03:01 < jsaw> :) 03:02 < rxr> jhuebel: why do you take a look at ROCK ? 03:03 < jhuebel> rxr: I've heard of Rock before and thought I'd take a look. I'll be honest. My biggest concern when using any distribution is the package manager. 03:04 < jhuebel> So, I'm really interested in what makes RockLinux's package management good. 03:04 < jhuebel> While I use and enjoy Gentoo (and portage), I'm not biased toward it. 03:05 < rxr> .oO (I should finally reinstall this iBook) 03:05 < jhuebel> I have no influence over portage development, unfortunately. 03:06 < rxr> jhuebel: just feel free to ask here if you need s.th. to know 03:07 < rxr> unfortunetly I'm currentl crawling into bed (03:06 here) 03:07 < jhuebel> rxr: cool, thanks. I'm looking at the website now. :-) 03:07 < rxr> the (in progress) Handbook is at: 03:07 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/products/rock-handbook/ 03:07 < rxr> I hope it is a help (also linked on the homepage of course) 03:08 < jhuebel> Just one quick question before you go... 03:08 < jhuebel> How are you guys dealing with seperating 32-bit and 64-bit libs? 03:08 < jhuebel> Or is there a port to any 64-bit architecture yet? 03:09 < rxr> we did 64 bit only up to now - and just spoke about generic multilib support a few days ago 03:09 < rxr> how is gentoo doing this? 03:11 < jhuebel> Incorrectly, unfortunately. I think the LSB states that 64-bit libs are supposed to be in /lib64, and 32-bit libs are in /lib. 03:11 < jhuebel> But Gentoo puts everything in /lib and symlinks /lib64 to /lib. 03:11 < rxr> ough 03:11 < jhuebel> Which is bad if you want multilib support. 03:12 < rxr> yes it should be /lib64 ... 03:12 < rxr> in theoriy we plan generic multilib support 03:12 < rxr> put I'm currently busy doing PowerPC embedded work ... 03:12 < jhuebel> Like SUSE is doing? Their multilib support is top-notch. 03:13 < rxr> (32bit ...) 03:13 < rxr> I think what one want is: 03:14 < rxr> - tagges in the packages to mark those where 32/64 bit versions are useful installed at the same ime 03:14 < rxr> time even 03:14 < rxr> (like glibc, openssl, openssh, and so on ...) 03:15 < rxr> - some generic handling for those - so multilib creation does not need to be hardcoded into earch package 03:15 < rxr> (I guess SuSE is preparing two different SRPMs one pkg-name and one pkg-name64 and just hardcoding all ... 03:15 < rxr> ) 03:16 < jhuebel> I'm not sure how SUSE is doing it. But one of my Gentoo devs is evaluating SUSE and says that they have really done a good job with it. 03:18 < jhuebel> In SUSE 9.1 beta, anyway. 03:19 < jhuebel> rxr: Thanks for your time... Have a good night. :-) 03:20 < rxr> n8 jhuebel 03:20 < rxr> .oO (linux-kernel is boiling) 03:21 < rxr> flameing the linuxant people - now linuxant people are in the To: and/or Cc: lines .... 03:21 < rxr> > Not true. Linuxant modules come with full source for operating-system specific 03:21 < rxr> > code. 03:21 < rxr> As somebody else already asked: Where is that source? 03:21 < rxr> > Exactly. Linuxant's intent is NOT to circumvent any license checks (see 03:21 < rxr> > below for why this specific workaround was put in) which would be unnecessary 03:21 < rxr> > since the drivers in question do not use any GPL_ONLY functions, as far as 03:21 < rxr> > I know. 03:21 < rxr> As far as you know. Can we assume you didn't bother to check? 03:22 < rxr> > Actually, we also have no desire nor purpose to prevent tainting. The purpose 03:22 < rxr> Then why the fuck did you prevent tainting this way? 03:22 < rxr> ... 03:22 < rxr> So you are nothing but a liar caught red-handed. And such a bad liar at that. 03:24 < jhuebel> heh, I saw that... They're just covering their butts now. 03:32 -!- jhuebel [~jhuebel@216.61.131.173] has left #rocklinux ["Leaving"] 03:36 -!- jsaw_ [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #rocklinux 03:36 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:36 < jsaw_> damn - vmware severly influences the stability of my system (under kernel 2.6) 03:37 -!- jsaw_ is now known as jsaw 03:43 < rxr> what are you running in vmwares? 03:45 < jsaw> don't ask... (XP) 03:46 < MadTux> 0_o 03:47 < jsaw> (department policy, having linux as basic OS on my workstation is a *BIG* exception) 03:50 < rxr> yeah - hand editing patches rules ... 03:50 < rxr> jsaw: oh my ... 04:05 < SMP> hmm, I don't see any stability issues with vmware 04:05 < jsaw> which kernel version? 04:09 < SMP> 2.6.5 with vmware 4.5.1 build-7568 with vmware-any-any-update60 applied 04:09 < SMP> I used to run vmware 4.0 with 2.6.0-test4 for a long time. no problems ever 04:10 < SMP> all this together with the nvidia driver 04:10 < jsaw> me now trying update63. (so far I had 57) 04:10 < SMP> whoah, 63? 04:10 < SMP> I can hardly keep up with the releases ;) 04:15 < rxr> jsaw: xemacs-beta is now in sumbater 04:15 < rxr> only tested on PowerPC so far ... 04:15 < jsaw> much improved? 04:16 < rxr> I only want it for the Xft fonts 04:17 < rxr> they look wonderful ... (as usual) 04:17 < SMP> btw. Gnome 2.6 fails completely due to not being able to find XML::Parser perl modules 04:17 < rxr> SMP: oeh? Haeh? Why? What? 04:17 < rxr> SMP: I have not noticed Gnome needs it - but we have a package (I guess in misc) of the perl-xml-parser or so 04:18 < rxr> SMP: I build it 1 1/2 times here - some regressions - but most build 04:18 < rxr> I even fixed some things that have been disabled before - like balsa ... 04:18 * rxr off now - cu in some hours 04:18 < SMP> yeah, it builds before the gnome stuff, but then it all fails because it doesn't seem to actually be able to find or use the modules 04:19 < jsaw> I faintly remember sth. similiar with 2.4 04:20 < rxr> SMP: it worked here - on my quite mixed iBook: 04:20 < rxr> .0.0-beta4 04:20 < rxr> 2.0.0-rc1 04:20 < rxr> 2.0.0-rc2 04:20 < rxr> 2.0.0-rc3 04:20 < rxr> 2.0.0-rc4 04:20 < rxr> 2.0.0-rc5 04:20 < rxr> 2.0.1 04:20 < rxr> 2.1.0-DEV 04:20 < rxr> maybe I should start a full build - sometime tomorrow or so - err today 04:20 < rxr> but now I'm really off ;-) 04:20 < SMP> I stopped the build after gnome-vfs 04:21 < jsaw> cu rxr 04:21 < SMP> aahhh 04:21 < jsaw> now, let's see if vmware still breaks... 04:21 < SMP> perl-xml-parser is a little too late 06:43 < MadTux> ::METAL:: https://200.116.6.55:8000/listen.pls 06:45 -!- togg [~togg@pD9ED3A9A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 06:50 -!- togg [~togg@pD9534555.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 06:58 < MadTux> bye 06:58 -!- MadTux [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has left #rocklinux ["Client Exiting"] 07:31 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@p50802D0C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 07:31 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p5080215B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 07:48 -!- BoS [~bodo@dialin-212-144-002-178.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 07:49 < BoS> moin 08:06 -!- ringo [ringo78@xs1.xs4all.nl] has joined #rocklinux 08:19 -!- BoS [~bodo@dialin-212-144-002-178.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:22 -!- nookie [~nookie@M474P023.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 08:25 < netrunne1> moin, 2 08:25 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 08:26 < ringo> moin netrunner 08:26 < ringo> afk shower 08:40 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M496P023.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:41 -!- BoS [~BoS@dialin-145-254-076-025.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:00 -!- ringo [ringo78@xs1.xs4all.nl] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 09:20 < netrunner> oh :( 881 builds total, 453 completed fine, 259 with errors. 09:28 -!- k3t__ [k3t@p54804ECD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:43 -!- k3t_ [k3t@pD9E8DC85.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:44 < daja> netrunner: what are you building? 09:52 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p50802D0C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 11:10 -!- daja_ [~daja@dialin-145-254-190-226.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:27 -!- daja [~daja@dialin-212-144-072-145.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:27 -!- daja77 [[RbmiRJh0E@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de] has joined #rocklinux 11:54 -!- daja_ [~daja@dialin-145-254-190-226.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["quiting this damn xchat"] 12:02 < daja77> re 12:07 < dsoul> hi daja77 12:08 < daja77> hi dsoul 12:26 < rxr> re 12:26 < daja77> wb rxr 12:26 < daja77> dfn works again ... 12:51 < rxr> jsaw: awake? 12:51 < rxr> jsaw: could you share your gcc34 work? I would like to start a test build using it 12:56 * rxr updating mplayer and qrt 12:56 < rxr> qt even 12:57 < daja77> rxr: speaking of that do you had problems with gnome-games-2.6 cksum too? 12:58 < rxr> hm 12:59 < rxr> ? 12:59 < daja77> i could send a cksum patch over if you liek 13:00 < tfing> * rxr updating mplayer and qrt <- do'h ! i was working on it :) 13:00 < daja77> *ggg* 13:00 < rxr> tfing: test builds already running .... 13:02 * daja77 wondering if nookie testbuilds his packages 13:02 * tfing still building 13:04 < rxr> daja77: what cheksum problem do you have?: 13:04 < rxr> inished downloading 8215595 bytes in 227.897 seconds (36049.597 bytes/sec). 13:04 < rxr> cksum-test (bzip2): download/gnome24/gnome-games/gnome-games-2.6.0.1.tar.bz2 13:04 < rxr> ? 13:04 < daja77> i got a cksum err yesterday while downloading 13:04 < tfing> #error Please upgrade to version 2004.01.05 or later of the "LIVE.COM Streaming Media" 13:05 < tfing> rxr: you upgraded rtsp too ? 13:05 < rxr> ;-) Not yet - could you do so? 13:06 < tfing> yep 13:15 < fussabtreter> moin 13:15 -!- Lorini [~Andrea@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:20 < rxr> moin owl 13:21 < fussabtreter> hi rxr . how are you? 13:23 < rxr> oh - good, and you? 13:25 < fussabtreter> good to hear that ;). hm. as always. thx 13:26 < fussabtreter> greetings from my knuddeliges hamstervieh ;) 13:27 < fussabtreter> (sitting on my notebook *hrhr* 13:54 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p50802E7B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:54 < rxr> hi netrunner 13:55 < Lorini> hi netrunner 13:56 < netrunner> hi rxr, Lorini 13:56 < netrunner> stupid telecom disconnected my line for 4 hours :( 14:01 -!- liquid [~liquid@pD951409E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:03 < daja77> hi Lorini, netrunner 14:05 -!- tfing_ [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-3-254.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 14:11 < Lorini> huhu daja 14:14 -!- tfing [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-3-19.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:14 -!- tfing_ is now known as tfing 14:29 < rxr> oh - no - mplayer utilizes the gnome1.x/glib package :-( 14:30 < daja77> wuarg 14:30 < fussabtreter> btw, rev 2812 is the current one? 14:35 < daja77> .oO (trunk is outdated) 14:35 < rxr> daja77: you mean due to the submaster queue? 14:36 < daja77> 2yes 14:36 < fussabtreter> outdated? 14:36 < daja77> i mean i can't tell newbies anymore co trunk and you got latest 14:38 < fussabtreter> svn co svn://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-linux/trunk 14:38 < fussabtreter> isn't the correct command anymore? O_o 14:38 < daja77> yep 14:38 < rolla> re 14:38 < fussabtreter> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. i did so... because i read it on the website... 14:39 < fussabtreter> wb rolla 14:40 < daja77> fussabtreter: it is correct to get trunk, but not to get the latest changes anymore :( 14:40 < fussabtreter> why not? 14:42 < daja77> cos lots of patches lying around in submaster 14:42 < fussabtreter> hmm. ok... 14:48 < rxr> hi rolla 14:49 -!- liquid [~liquid@pD951409E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 14:49 < rxr> those damn stupid C codes 14:50 < daja77> hm? 14:50 < rxr> coders even - with theird damn to stupid to use it define crap 14:54 < rxr> haeh - oh my is the MPlayer code crappy 14:54 * rxr thinks about putting "adding a video framework to gsmp 14:54 < daja77> it is a video player, so what do you expect 14:55 < daja77> i doubt that the code will get better 14:55 < rxr> daja77: Gsmp is also "only" a "streaming solution" for "player" and "editng solution" 14:55 < daja77> :) 14:55 < rxr> adn the code is modernst C++ without such 20 old crap style fluffs 14:56 < rxr> they are too dump to get their own macro hacking right 14:56 < rxr> oh - my - even the comments are wrong 14:56 < fussabtreter> hmm. i'm going off... enjoying the sun and having a shower. bbl 14:56 * rxr is shocked 14:56 < daja77> you patch it to so that it should work with new glib? 14:56 < rxr> no - I patch it to compile on PowerPC without altivec support 14:57 < rxr> they cripple Altivec support in each release a different way 14:57 < daja77> oh 14:57 < rxr> aside that the assmply stuff does not compile with revent GCC's anyway 14:58 < rxr> the best was gstreamer with included PowerPC assmebly never compileable 15:00 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-29-2.reverse.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:00 < holyolli> moin 15:02 < rxr> moin holyolli 15:02 < holyolli> huhu rxr 15:03 * rxr also off into the sun - cu later 15:03 < daja77> hf 15:03 < holyolli> cu rxr 15:03 < holyolli> enjoy RL... ;-) 15:12 < rolla> yawn 15:14 * rolla is very bored 15:14 < rolla> holyolli: is there a rocklinux alpha iso yet? 15:14 < fake> NOOOO 15:15 < fake> NONONO 15:15 < fake> *uaaaaaaah* 15:15 < holyolli> hi rolla, fake... 15:15 * fake cries 15:15 < holyolli> rolla: no, still some problems with libs :(( - do you have something? 15:15 < holyolli> rolla: (well, i have some deprecated 1.5 isos...but they don't count imho) 15:15 < fake> https://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/04/28/0228237 15:16 < Lorini> hi fake 15:16 < fake> they cancel andromeda :_: 15:16 < fake> my life has just lost one if it's most fun parts 15:16 < fake> hi Lorini 15:17 < fake> but: "The Forgotten" will air today! 15:19 < rolla> holyolli: I can try to build one on my new alphaserver 2000 15:24 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-29-2.reverse.qsc.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:24 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-29-2.reverse.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:24 < holyolli> re... 15:38 < BoS> rxr: for ppc build - kernel 2.4.22 ? 16:09 -!- c4y0 [~c4y0@200.75.94.99] has joined #rocklinux 16:09 < c4y0> hi every body 16:14 -!- Lorini [~Andrea@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has left #rocklinux ["Irre explodieren nicht, wenn das Sonnenlicht sie trifft, ganz egal, wie irre sie sind."] 16:23 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M359P010.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 16:40 -!- nookie [~nookie@M474P023.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:10 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAB335.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:38 < th_> is there a known problem with segfaulting gimp in libglib-1.2.so? 17:46 -!- MadTux [~mike@master.hack-solutions.com] has joined #rocklinux 17:47 < SMP> use gimp 2.0 ;) 17:47 < MadTux> good day 17:47 < holyolli> MadTux!!! 17:47 < MadTux> Ollie! 17:51 < rolla> MadTux: 17:52 < MadTux> hi Joel! 17:53 < rolla> :) 18:15 -!- [dearboy] [~crazylava@218.20.191.63] has joined #rocklinux 18:17 -!- [dearboy] [~crazylava@218.20.191.63] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:19 -!- c4y0 [~c4y0@200.75.94.99] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.52B [Mozilla rv:1.6/20040113]"] 19:45 < blindy> hi 19:45 < MadTux> blindy: ! 19:45 < blindy> MadTux: ! 19:46 < blindy> tmpfs makes a difference of 20% in a LVP build 19:46 < blindy> that's quite nice 19:52 < BoS> anobody here with issue's about ppc and rock? 20:05 -!- BoS [~BoS@dialin-145-254-076-025.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20:07 -!- BoS [~BoS@dialin-212-144-018-062.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:27 < rxr> re 20:30 < MadTux> hi rxr 20:31 < valentin> hi 20:40 < blindy> moin rxr 21:24 -!- true [~true@aszlig.net] has left #rocklinux [" "] 21:51 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAB335.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:54 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pD9E1C71E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:14 * blindy gone 22:17 < netrunner> hm, not so successful. 881 builds total, 564 completed fine, 317 with errors. 22:17 < netrunner> qt fails first. 22:26 < rxr> netrunner: what kind of build is this? 22:26 < MadTux> rxr: query? 22:28 < netrunner> rxr: desktop with some submaster patches, mainly the xorg one. 22:29 < daja77> hm this gnome patch breaks a lot 22:29 * MadTux needs a place to stay for CCC Congress on december 22:30 < daja77> hi MadTux :) 22:30 * MadTux already making plans to not go through the same shit than last year 22:30 < MadTux> hi daja77 :) 22:31 < daja77> yeah sounds good 22:34 < daja77> 1191 builds total, 587 completed fine, 78 with errors. 22:34 < daja77> what did you mean by just a few packages needed to be fixed by community efforts 22:35 < rxr> daja77: I did build it in my system - and most stuff build 22:36 < rxr> have you the SMP patfh to move XML:Parse's priority to the front? 22:36 < rxr> maybe some other tiny priority moves? 22:36 < daja77> I just have to find the start of this mess 22:36 < rxr> did you pulled more - or is this just the gnome update? 22:37 < daja77> i have more stuff, kde update and x.org 22:37 < rxr> s.o. claimed x.orgs breaks some stuff, too 22:38 < daja77> oh hm 22:38 < daja77> i guess i cannot revert patches applied via smap? 22:43 < rxr> sure - why not? 22:43 < daja77> svn revert? 22:44 < daja77> iirc smap does a commit after each patch 22:44 < rxr> sure - exactly this 22:45 < daja77> k. 22:46 < rxr> btw - IIRC smap does not commit it alone - you need to cut'n paste the message 22:46 < rxr> or supply a commdn line parameter or config file optoin 22:47 < daja77> that's for sm sync 22:47 < daja77> smap does a commit 22:47 < SMP> unless told not to 22:49 < netrunner> the qt error is weird: Qt must first be configured using the "configure" scri .. 22:49 < rxr> well then this way ... 22:50 < daja77> k. trying with smp priority patch again, before reverting x,org stuff 22:52 < netrunner> oh damn, xorg did not build. that explains things ... 22:54 < daja77> it did build here 22:55 < netrunner> file missing. 22:55 < netrunner> but tcltk is scheduled before xorg and aborts missing the includes if I read my log correctly 22:56 < netrunner> ah, no, I might be to tired now. 22:57 < netrunner> rxr: what do you think about splitting the irc statistics in seperate for years? Now I do not even appear :/ 22:59 < rxr> netrunner: they are already split into years 23:00 < daja77> the stats, hm there are ppl in it who haven't uttered a word in 2004 23:00 < netrunner> ah, ic 23:01 < rxr> stats.html was a zombi file 23:01 < rxr> it is deleted now 23:01 < rxr> use stat-$year.html instead 23:01 < daja77> ah k. this is stats for 2002 which is default :\ 23:01 < rxr> or the links in the index.html (behind the year) 23:01 < rxr> there is no "default" 23:02 < netrunner> it's the topmost. I also always clicked on it :) 23:03 < daja77> oh i just used www.rocklinux.net/irclog/ which points me to 2002 stats 23:03 < daja77> omg I lead the 2003 stats 23:03 * daja77 hides 23:06 < netrunner> hm. now I have the problem I always talked about. 23:06 < netrunner> some packages in my build did not build. 23:07 < netrunner> If I now simply restart the build, packages that use the pkginstalled to enable features and built fine without dependencies lack features I might like. 23:07 < netrunner> So, I have to completely restart the build to be sure to have all features. 23:15 < rxr> netrunner: you should enough shell to improve this 23:15 -!- MadTux [~mike@master.hack-solutions.com] has quit ["leaving"] 23:16 < netrunner> rxr: it needs a change in the functionality of pkginstalled/pkgcheck. I already wrote this to the ml about a month ago. Not many comments... 23:16 < netrunner> rxr: do you at least agree with my point? 23:17 < rxr> only partly 23:18 < netrunner> my proposal: merge both functionalities. up to stage 5 it behaves as pkgcheck. in stage 9 it behaves as pkginstalled. 23:18 < rxr> hm - is there a bug in pkginstalled ? 23:19 < netrunner> it behaves diffrently. it checks if the package in question has already been built. 23:19 < netrunner> pkgcheck looks if the package in question is in the build at all 23:19 < rxr> no - I meant I think pkginstalled has a bug as it in in svn - for the use-case it is intended for ... 23:19 < rxr> netrunner: I know this ... 23:20 < rxr> netrunner: for you I propose s.th. like: 23:20 < rxr> ndex: scripts/functions 23:20 < rxr> =================================================================== 23:20 < rxr> --- scripts/functions (revision 36) 23:20 < rxr> +++ scripts/functions (working copy) 23:20 < rxr> @@ -402,7 +402,11 @@ 23:20 < rxr> # Check if a package is already installed 23:20 < rxr> # 23:20 < rxr> pkginstalled() { 23:20 < rxr> - [ -f $root/var/adm/flists/$1 ] 23:20 < rxr> + if [ "$stagelevel" -le 8 ] ; then 23:20 < rxr> + pkgcheck X $1 23:20 < rxr> + else 23:20 < rxr> + [ -f $root/var/adm/flists/$1 ] 23:20 < rxr> + fi 23:20 < rxr> } 23:20 < rxr> # Register a window-manager 23:20 < rxr> ah - no it did not have a bug - I pressed the wrong key ... 23:21 < netrunner> rxr: this is exactly what I mean. :) 23:22 < SMP> this should -in theory- be accomplished by ROCKCFG_NOBROKENDEPS=1 23:23 < rxr> or better: 23:23 < rxr> --- scripts/functions (revision 36) 23:23 < rxr> +++ scripts/functions (working copy) 23:23 < rxr> @@ -401,8 +401,15 @@ 23:23 < rxr> } 23:23 < rxr> # Check if a package is already installed 23:23 < rxr> # 23:23 < rxr> +# It does check the build-list if not in the rebuild stage - and 23:23 < rxr> +# the really installed package data for rebuilds (and so manual builds). 23:23 < rxr> +# 23:23 < rxr> pkginstalled() { 23:23 < rxr> - [ -f $root/var/adm/flists/$1 ] 23:23 < rxr> + if [ "$stagelevel" -le 8 ] ; then 23:23 < rxr> + pkgcheck X $1 23:23 < rxr> + else 23:23 < rxr> + [ -f $root/var/adm/packages/$1 ] 23:23 < rxr> + fi 23:23 < rxr> } 23:23 < rxr> # Register a window-manager 23:23 < rxr> netrunner: please test this and report - I then submit it into submaster 23:23 < rxr> SMP: yes 23:23 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pD9E1C71E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["leaving"] 23:24 < netrunner> rxr: could you sm commit it so I can smap it? :) 23:24 < rxr> oh my 23:24 * netrunner will start a desktop build tomorrow morning. 23:24 < SMP> rxr: stop 23:25 < netrunner> rxr: okayokay, I'll handedit the timestamp and nick away ;) 23:25 < SMP> the arguments to pkgcheck are in the wrong order 23:26 < rxr> too later 23:27 < rxr> resend 23:30 < rxr> netrunner: a hand edit will not apply due to <tab>s 23:30 < rxr> but it is in sumaster now 23:30 < netrunner> smap'ed. the qt update will also be in my next build. 23:39 < netrunner> n8 * 23:39 < daja77> n8 netrunner 23:42 < rxr> n8 --- Log closed Thu Apr 29 00:00:49 2004