--- Log opened Fri Apr 30 00:00:04 2004
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00:12 < link_> heloo all
00:12 < rxr> hi link_ 
00:22 < rxr> what to do when a ROCK build is in progress? visit www.rocklinux.net/submaster and do some voting ;-)
00:23 < mnemoc> :)
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00:27 < rxr> hi Lorini_ 
00:27 < Lorini_> hi
00:28 < rxr> xsane could be updated ... - anyone?
00:49 < rxr> ok - too much load on my iBook - /me off taking a shower util all the scheduled tasks are finished
00:49 < rxr> cu in some minutes
01:01 < rxr> re
01:04 < mnemoc> usable ibook now?
01:07 < rxr> it was useable before - just busy - scheduling more stuff would not have saved more time ...
01:08 < rxr> I'll now consume some bread
01:08 < rxr> and watch news for some minutes
01:10 < daja77> re
01:10 < mnemoc> re daja77 
01:10 < daja77> thx mnemoc 
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01:28 < rxr> hi daja77 
01:29 < daja77> hi rxr
01:29 < daja77> <- back from cinema ...
01:29 < holyolli> wb daja77...which film?
01:29 < rxr> daja77: ;-) /me too
01:30 < daja77> dirty dancing 2 :(
01:30 < rxr> Kill Bill vol.2 on my side ;-)
01:30 < daja77> with a girl ...
01:30 < holyolli> kill bill rocks! :)
01:30 < daja77> yeah that'd been better
01:30 < holyolli> daja77: oh...
01:30 < daja77> holyolli: well with her it is ok :)
01:31 < daja77> that damn suckers in the cinema made a break! in that not so long movie >_<
01:32 < rxr> oh - the only breaks in the cinema I experienced have been in LOTR
01:32 < daja77> yeah me too
01:33 < daja77> they let some strange dancers in during that break
01:33 < rxr> and in one sneak preview where some stupid person had feed the film revered into the projector
01:33 < holyolli> args...
01:33 < rxr> only the last roll
01:34 < daja77> O_o
01:34 < rxr> so after watchin the first minue of the 3rd roll upside-down and reversed they had to pause to rewind the roll ...
01:34 < rxr> yeah - was a sneak preview - 
01:34 < rxr> and we got a coke for that ;-)
01:35 < daja77> hehe
01:35 < daja77> got a coke from her too ...
01:36 < daja77> 111 mails on ml >_<
01:37 < daja77> will read them after sleep ;)
01:37 < rxr> you should filter the sm/svn mails into rock-auto or so ;-)
01:38 < daja77> yeah maybe i should do that
01:39 < daja77> n8
01:39 < rxr> those UserFirendly comics these days are - well - *interesting*
01:39 < holyolli> n8 daja77
01:39 < rxr> n8 daja77 
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01:53 < rxr> oh my takes glibc header creation long ...
02:01 < rxr> oh - finished
02:01 < rxr> (me needs some G5's ...
02:01 < rxr> )
02:04 < mnemoc> power failure :(
02:04 < mnemoc> bye bye
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02:29 < MadTux> yo.
02:43 < holyolli> MadTux!
02:51 < rxr> hi MadTux 
02:51 < MadTux> hi rene.. any updates for me on those sparc cds?
02:52 < rxr> can tell you today afternoon ...
02:52 < MadTux> GREAT :)
02:56 < rolla> re
02:56 < rolla> how is everyone doing?
02:56 < MadTux> good and you rolla?
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03:02 < esden> hi ho everyone
03:03 < MadTux> wow MPET
03:03 < MadTux> how are you esden?
03:03 < esden> HI MADTUX!!!!!!
03:03 < esden> I am fine thanks.
03:03 < MadTux> shit its been ALONG time
03:03 < esden> and how are you?
03:03 < MadTux> i'm great, you ?
03:03 < esden> yes VERY! long time!
03:03 < esden> as I said i am fine :)
03:04 < MadTux> where have you been?
03:04 < esden> still in the same place as before ... around munich ;)
03:05 < esden> I am pretty busy with a project on my university ... that is why am very seldom here
03:06 < esden> and what are you doing currently?
03:06 < MadTux> damn nerd!! don't you remember you have friends here who wonder if you are alive or what
03:06 < esden> sorry :(
03:07 < MadTux> i've been working lots as usual.. with my company, contracts.. was invited to colombia las week to a congress where i gave a speech about rock linux, elks and selinux
03:07 < MadTux> don't apoligize just come around more often so we know you are ok
03:07 < MadTux> :)
03:07 < esden> ohh sounds pretty interesting
03:07 < MadTux> yup :)
03:07 < esden> are you still in cs?
03:07 < esden> i mean cr
03:07 < MadTux> .cr yes came back last sunday
03:08 < esden> where have you been before that?
03:08 < MadTux> colombia..
03:08 < MadTux> giving the conferences
03:08 < esden> ahh ok ...
03:08 < esden> I thought you mean future ...
03:08 < esden> sorry
03:08 < holyolli> re...for a short time
03:08 < holyolli> ...to say hello to esden! :)
03:09 < esden> hi holyolli!
03:09 < esden> ;)
03:09 < MadTux> nah the invitation came last year
03:09 < MadTux> congress was last week
03:09 < MadTux> now i've been invited to brazil :)
03:09 < holyolli> but now i'm falling into my bed...have to get up in 5 hours :(
03:09 < holyolli> cya later... ;-)
03:09 < esden> good night holyolli 
03:10 < holyolli> n8 esden, buenas noches MadTux
03:10 < esden> I should also go to bed ... but I have no motivation for that ;)
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03:10 < MadTux> good esdy
03:11 < MadTux> code
03:11 < esden> I am waiting that the damn update finishes on my p75 machine ;)
03:12 < MadTux> hehe
03:12 < esden> I have already made enough work for today if you ask me
03:12 < MadTux> hehe yeah i know
03:12 < MadTux> just relax boy
03:13 < esden> we had a meeting for 4 hours today ... sigh ... the agenda was long as every time >_<
03:14 < esden> and still we had to postpone topics to next week
03:14 < MadTux> shit.. that sounds frustrating
03:15 < esden> no it was very productive as every time :)
03:15 < esden> we finally have a draft of architectures and compilers we want to support
03:16 < MadTux> gut
03:16 < esden> and our repositorys now have the right structure ... so we can create tags and branches ;)
03:17 < esden> next week we may probably start to review our standards document
03:17 < esden> so in all we are advancing ;)
03:22 < rxr> ok - me off int obed
03:22 < rxr> n8 all
03:22 < esden> n8 rxr 
03:23 < esden> ahh rxr if you read this ... I should be able to send you the disk in two weeks ... by then I should have a replacement disk for my alpha
03:24 < esden> MadTux <- asleep? ;)
03:26 < esden> seems so
03:27 < MadTux> esden: no..
03:27 < MadTux> just coding
03:27 < esden> ohh back to life ;)
03:27 < esden> what are you coding?
03:27 < MadTux> elks..
03:28 < esden> ahh ok
03:28 < esden> permission granted ;)
03:28 < MadTux> hehe
03:28  * esden has to write a c++ threading library ... ;)
03:28 < esden> that will be fun
03:29 < esden> but the research before I write it is a pain in the ass
04:59 < esden> n8
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04:59 < MadTux> no
04:59 < MadTux> don't sleep
04:59 < esden|zZz> ?
04:59 < MadTux> :P
04:59 < MadTux> gn8 my friend
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04:59 < MadTux> :)
04:59 < esden> humm
04:59 < MadTux> just teasing you 
04:59 < esden> you are saying nothing ... so I go to bed ;)
04:59 < MadTux> relax rest
04:59 < esden> hehe 
04:59 < esden> ok 
04:59 < esden> n8
04:59 < MadTux> yeah i'm a bit inspired tonigh
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05:34 < MadTux> bye
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07:26 < BoS> moin
07:29 < valentin> moin
07:29 < BoS> moin valentin 
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08:18 < BoS_> re
08:19 < netrunner> hi BoS
08:19 < BoS_> moin netrunner 
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08:22  * netrunner already found 2 occurrences where pkginstalled in it's old version avoided features to be added
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09:03 < BoS> q: package for thunderbird (new mozilla mail client) available?
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10:20 < holyolli> moin
10:20 < fake> g'evening
10:20 < holyolli> :)
10:20  * fake worked until now on that damn stickers on his vw bus
10:21 < holyolli> fake: what kind of stickers? 'we brake for nobody'? ;-)
10:21 < fake> no, telekom-dots and reflection stripes
10:21 < holyolli> *g*
10:21 < fake> i would have left such cool ones
10:21 < fake> boy, these warning stripes are evil
10:22 < fake> but, with an incredible amount of patience (and aceton), even they can be handled ;)
10:22 < holyolli> hehe
10:22 < holyolli> .oO(aceton verleiht fluueeeeeeegeeeell...) ;-)
10:23 < fake> yeah, it was fun 
10:30 < fake> phew
10:30 < fake> there is a guy on rtl2 cooking
10:30 < fake> you gotta see that
10:30 < fake> it's incredible
10:52 < fake> that's cool
10:59  * fake completly paralyzed
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11:19 < netrunner> http://members.optusnet.com.au/~jimbeamblack/cat.mpg
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12:25 < rxr> re
12:26 < daja77> hi rxr
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12:28 < rxr> hi daja77 
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12:34 < netrunner> hi daja & rxr
12:36 < rxr> hi netrunner 
12:37 < netrunner> (german) http://www.heise.de/tp/deutsch/inhalt/lis/17313/1.html
12:39 < netrunner> 931 builds total, 608 completed fine, 5 with errors.
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12:59 < rxr> jsaw: alive?
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13:49 < rxr> oh my - what do people smoke:
13:49 < rxr> You are missing the point.  Badly.  All software sucks, be it open-source
13:49 < rxr> of proprietary.  The only question is what can be done with particular
13:49 < rxr> instance of suckage, and that's where having the source matters.
13:50 < rxr>   -- viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk
13:50 < rxr> @linux-kernel
13:51 < daja77> i don't see that connection
13:56 < rxr> so finally:
13:56 < rxr> == 13:23:52 =[0]=> Building base/gcc3 [3.4.0 2.1.0-DEV].
13:56 < rxr> == 04/30/04 13:45:39 =[0]=> Finished building package gcc3.
13:56 < rxr> let's see how the rest goes
13:59  * rolla hates viruses
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14:13 < netrunner> rxr: may I point you to a security update? 2004043012154023795
14:19 < rxr> yes - just that clifford need to apply those ...
14:19 < rxr> thru the long submaster queue ...
14:19 < rxr> netrunner: maybe you can propose this on the list - I'm to tired complaining about submaster every second day 
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14:23 < netrunner> I thought it would also be an issue for 2.0, or does clifford also apply patches there?
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14:57 < rxr> netrunner: no - but it works betten when we merge stuff between the two branches
14:58 < rxr> instead of applying the same thing in both
14:58 < rxr> hm - mplayer also lingers around in submaster ...
15:15 < rxr> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=105817&cid=9007872
15:23 < tfing> why is the mplayer patch not applied ?
15:23 < tfing> there is a vote from jimmy, clifford and you 
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15:31 < rxr> tfing: it seems clifford only applies patches after a full build...
15:31 < daja77> yep ...
15:31 < rxr> I also do not like this
15:32 < rxr> in addition after all 2.1 is a development tree - not a stable tree
15:32 < daja77> ack
15:40 < rxr> damn orcut mails
15:40 < rxr> orkut even
15:40 < daja77> yeah they suck
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15:42 < daja77> hi esden 
15:43 < rxr> hi esden !
15:43 < Lorini> hi everybody
15:48 < daja77> hi Lorini 
15:56 < esden> hi rxr 
15:56 < esden> hi daja77 
15:56 < esden> hi everyone ;)
15:56 < daja77> * everyone greets esden
15:57 < rxr> welcome back esden 
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16:00 < MadTux> good day
16:00 < daja77> hey MadTux 
16:01 < MadTux> hi daja77 :)
16:01 < esden> hi MadTux 
16:02 < MadTux> wow esden u are here!
16:02 < MadTux> cool !
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16:14 < rxr> hi mnemoc 
16:18 < mnemoc> hi rxr
16:18 < mnemoc> everybody seem to have missunderstood my flex patch :|
16:20 < valentin> mnemoc: what was the problem with clip ?
16:20 < rxr> yeah - I have found a typo in my sed & awk book ;-) !!!
16:21 < mnemoc> clip use yy_set_bol, as others use yyytext_ptr
16:22 < mnemoc> but last version of flex arbitrarily decided to undef them
16:22 < mnemoc> i'm un-undefing the one i need
16:22 < mnemoc> not undefing the one you need
16:22 < valentin> oh, sorry
16:22  * valentin too stupid to read a patch
16:22 < mnemoc> :p
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16:23 < valentin> well, it was 7:00 in the morning.
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16:23 < mnemoc> forgiven :)
16:24 < mnemoc> it was a very harmful
16:24 < mnemoc> thing done by flex maintainers
16:25 < valentin> but it's a strange thing anyway - why ddo they (not you) undefine those macros ?
16:25 < mnemoc> no idea
16:25 < mnemoc> if you google a bit, people ask to not use that version of flex :|
16:26 < mnemoc> maybe _we_ should un-undef them all
16:26 < mnemoc> it looks like a political decition, as linux2.6.4 and headers
16:26 < valentin> yep.
16:28 < valentin> the most weired thing is: the generated scanners use yytext_ptr themselves - but sometimes it isn't defined...
16:29 < valentin> see package/base/flex/flex.skl-fix.patch
16:30  * daja77 should check his archives for better parser/scanbner hgenerators and add packages ...
16:30 < rxr> daja77: the problems are not better parser/scaners/generators - but package using flex ...
16:30 < valentin> daja: there are tons of scannergens and at least hundreds of them are better than flex.
16:31 < valentin> but flex is quasi-std for unix progs
16:31 < daja77> :)
16:32 < valentin> the problem with the flex maintainers is, they don't seem to do regression tests. Each new release adds more marco nonsense
16:34 < rxr> valentin: when you can call this mess or the one release / year maintainship
16:37 < valentin> Ihmo they should take the flex info page and reimplement it - this would take some month, but discovering and fixing all errors in the existing code seems to be impossible
16:57 < blindy> hi hi and rehi
17:02 < MadTux> BLINDY!
17:02 < MadTux> :)
17:07 < blindy> MADDY!
17:09 < blindy> http://www.crash-override.net/nethacklinux.php
17:13 < daja77> is this a rocklinux target? *ggg*
17:14 < MadTux> yeah wtf is nethack linux?
17:15 < daja77> bootable nethack floppy as state on that page i guess ^^
17:15 < daja77> stated
17:20 < MadTux> 16854632
17:20 < MadTux> opps
17:20 < MadTux> brb
17:21 < rxr> blindy: your freeserf:
17:21 < rxr> And well, what can I say, such a constant yelling will break you sometime soon, so I gave in and started to port it
17:21 < rxr> writing a clone != porting
17:21 < rxr> porting would be if you get the source from them and port that to linux
17:21 < rxr> but what you do it starting your own clone - s.th. totally different
17:21 < daja77> rxr?
17:22 < blindy> I must have been drunk when I wrote that
17:22 < rxr> daja77: the first sentence was from blindy homepage - the rest my comments ...
17:22 < rxr> cu later
17:22  * rxr off
17:23 < blindy> daja77: no it isn't a ROCK target. chrooting into a uclibc root-fs and compiling tar, bz2 and nethack with a bunch of symlinking doesn't justify a ROCK target
17:24 < daja77> :)
17:24 < MadTux> blindy: so how is it all going with LPP ?
17:24  * MadTux silently waits for reaction
17:25 < blindy> MadTux: not at all. since bootsplash is by far superior I decided not to force it.
17:25 < MadTux> ok
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17:38 < netcrow> hi esden-oldie ;)
17:38 < netcrow> hm, oh...i did not scroll...
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18:37 < nookie> MadTux: !
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19:29 < mnemoc> *yawn*
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20:49 < rxr> rehi
20:51 < blindy> re
20:55 < rxr> rehi
20:57 < blindy> hmm... people seem to like Nethack Linux :)
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23:40 < mnemoc> blindy: uclibc?
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23:48 < nagi> moin
23:48 < nagi> someone awake and has knowledge about how to play an encrypted dvd with mplayer?
23:48 < nagi> and where to get libcss?
23:50 < mnemoc> nagi: blindy is the man
23:50 < nagi> hmmm. ok. thx
23:50 < mnemoc> nagi: libcss is downloadeable from http://www.vmlinuz.nu/downloads/
23:50 < nagi> hi mnemoc ;)
23:50 < mnemoc> hi =)
23:51 < mnemoc> http://www.vmlinuz.nu/downloads/libcss-0.1.0.tar.gz
23:53 < nagi> yeah. already downloading it ;) . but it's really frustrating if youre just lending a dvd from a "videothek" and you're not able to play it *grunz*
23:54 < mnemoc> LVP is a ROCK sub-distro to play encripted dvds :)
23:55 < mnemoc> http://lvp.crash-override.net/news.php
23:55 < nagi> hehe. :) 
23:55 < nagi> my slackware has to do this, too. otherwise harakiri ;)
23:56 < mnemoc> move to rock and omit the harakiri ;)
23:57 < nagi> nope. i will stay with slack. at least on my notebook
23:58 < mnemoc> then, what are you doing at #rocklinux? =)
23:58 < nagi> just hanging around
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