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--- Log opened Sat May 01 00:00:18 2004 00:00 -!- kasc [~kasc@c-180-212-71.cvx-l.dial.de.ignite.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:01 < nagi> hi ka ! 00:01 -!- kasc [~kasc@c-180-212-71.cvx-l.dial.de.ignite.net] has quit [Client Quit] 00:01 < nagi> oeha. 00:02 < mnemoc> :) 00:09 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M396P014.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:09 < nagi> gnarf. i'm on high-voltage! 00:15 -!- nookie [~nookie@M202P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 00:17 < daja77> nagi: lol like bender? 00:17 < nagi> hoeh? 00:18 < daja77> <- watching futurama 00:18 < nagi> hmmm. which season? ;) 00:18 < daja77> in one episode bender was on high voltage 00:18 < daja77> the first for a start 00:19 < daja77> having some more here :) 00:19 < nagi> hehe. ok ;p nah, i'm just mentally on high voltage. could bang my head against the wall 00:19 < nagi> pfff. that's not fair 00:19 < daja77> what's not fair, me watching futurama? 00:20 < nagi> yep 00:20 < daja77> come over here if you like :) 00:20 < nagi> ok :p 00:20 < mnemoc> .oO( i ended my cable tv subscription today :'( ) 00:20 < daja77> good choice 00:20 < nagi> alsa-control: mixer attach error: No such file or directoryA: 3.8 V: 3.8 A-ALSA lib control.c:612:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL 00:20 < daja77> you need about 4h to arrive here ^^ 00:21 < daja77> O_o 00:21 < nagi> ^^^^what does it want to tell me? mplayer-to-human-understandable-output-translater needed 00:21 < daja77> no idea 00:22 < nagi> not well. but thx anyway 00:22 < daja77> <- off watching 00:22 < daja77> cu 00:22 < nagi> bye. daja77 . ff 00:22 < daja77> thx :) 00:23 < nagi> aaaaaah!!! my dvd works! i 'm seeing something and hearing *jumps around* 00:23 < nagi> off, too. watching "the virgin suicides". 00:23 < nagi> bye 00:35 < rxr> cu 00:35 < rxr> n8 all 00:35 < mnemoc> n8 rxr 00:49 < mnemoc> why [ "$numericvar" != "0" ] is prefered over [ $numericvar -ne 0 ] ? 01:09 < daja77> it is cooler ^^ 01:10 < fake> nagi: that movie is cool 01:10 < daja77> hi fake 01:11 < fake> <spoiler> THEY ALL DIE </spoiler> 01:11 < daja77> lol 01:18 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8C928.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 01:21 < mnemoc> daja77: oh 01:23 < mnemoc> uhm... we are now stealing patches from lfs? 01:36 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8CC82.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:40 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@p5480335A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:40 -!- blindy [~blindcode@p50801E7D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 01:40 -!- blindcoder is now known as blindy 02:01 < fake> where's esden? 02:02 < fake> i would like to welcome him to the EU ;) 02:05 < mnemoc> how many country were on EU, and how many there are now? 02:05 < mnemoc> what the acronym CE means? 02:06 < mnemoc> fake: 02:07 < fake> it were 15 02:07 < fake> now 10 are new 02:07 < fake> iirc 02:07 < fake> so it's 25 countries now 02:07 < mnemoc> OMG 02:08 < fake> bulgaria and romania try to get in 2007 02:08 < mnemoc> aren't they too poor for that? 02:09 < LowLander> not worse than germany :-) 02:09 < mnemoc> =) 02:09 < fake> mnemoc: i don't know wether there is regulation for that just for joining the EU 02:10 < fake> if you want to participate with the EUR waehrung.. ah... currency, you must fulfill criteria like thath 02:10 < fake> -h 02:10 < LowLander> there is, and Germany, France , Holland and several others are breaking those rules for the X'th year in a row 02:10 < fake> yeah *g* 02:10 < fake> we're so 3v1l 02:11 < fake> nevertheless the euro is a stable currency 02:11 < LowLander> cause the dollar sucks 02:11 < mnemoc> uhm? you mean euro is not the only currency in the EU? 02:11 < fake> no! 02:11 * mnemoc surprised 02:12 < LowLander> swedish krone 02:12 < LowLander> UK pund 02:12 < LowLander> pound 02:12 < fake> the tommys won't give up her queen on their currency 02:12 < mnemoc> i was convised they have been removed 02:12 < fake> mnemoc: no, only a handful of countries participated 02:13 < fake> italy, greece, germany, holland, spain, ... uh... and so on ;) 02:13 < LowLander> well "handful" is like almost all except the UK and Sweden 02:13 < fake> sweden = switzerland 02:13 < fake> ;) 02:13 < fake> ... 02:13 < mnemoc> then WTF exchange 'houses' only offer _that_ european coin (here) 02:13 < fake> boy 02:14 < fake> am i confused 02:14 < fake> sweden != switzerland 02:14 < mnemoc> switzerland = .ch 02:14 < fake> j0 02:14 < LowLander> most of the time sweden == sweden ;-P 02:14 < mnemoc> oh 02:14 < LowLander> switzerland is special anyway ;-) 02:15 < fake> mnemoc: because you americans never travel to europe anyways *g* 02:16 < mnemoc> only japaneese :) 02:16 < fake> Yen 02:16 < LowLander> they do , to smoke in Amsterdam :-) 02:16 < fake> hehehe 02:16 < mnemoc> LOL 02:17 < fake> the ??C3 is perfect for that, too ;) 02:17 < fake> the laws regarding that are incredible hard in the US 02:17 < nagi> remoin 02:17 < fake> hard? strong? 02:17 < fake> nagi: sad? 02:18 < nagi> what ? who? 02:18 < LowLander> stupid is the word yer looking for ;-) 02:18 < fake> nagi: because of the movie 02:18 < fake> LowLander: well, they wanted to keep the mexicans out 02:18 < nagi> yep. 02:18 < fake> nagi: yeah, all dead, such beutiful girls... -_- 02:19 < fake> nagi: what a waste 02:19 < LowLander> well with half the country speaking Spanish already i think that kind of failed 02:19 < nagi> total. :p 02:19 < nagi> it was more sad because of the boys who had to see them dead 02:20 < fake> LowLander: but marijuana is still prohibited. what a pity. hell, what do i care? *puff* 02:20 < fake> nagi: i think they coped with it quite well, i would have gone mad 02:20 < LowLander> hey it is allowed in holland , yer just not allowed to smoke :-) 02:21 < fake> LowLander: i mean prohibited in the US. nobody really cares about it in germany either 02:21 < LowLander> they do in Bavaria ;-) 02:21 < fake> LowLander: as long as you're just a user, there is nothing to be afraid of 02:22 * fake from the heart of bavaria 02:22 < nagi> haha. guys you really have problems ;) heh, just go to a psychatrist and say "oh i'm always on high-voltage. please give me pills against it!" and you get gooooood drugs ;p 02:22 * LowLander from the bottom of bavaria (well not really from , being Dutch) 02:22 < fake> nagi: they're effectively more ecpensive than pott 02:22 < fake> LowLander: below munich? 02:23 < LowLander> Holzkichen 02:23 < fake> hui ;) 02:23 < LowLander> Holzkirchen even 02:23 < nagi> hmm. dunno. you have to pay the 5 - 10 euro... but if you're having a N3-package of dipiperon e.g. - *smiles* 02:24 < nagi> aeh. baeh. stupid printer prints PINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *puke* 02:24 < LowLander> yer printer is gay ;-P 02:24 < nagi> gay? 02:24 < fake> no, YOU have to pay 5 - 10 EUR - i would have had to pay about 40 - 50 EUR every MONTH! 02:24 < nagi> why gay? 02:24 < LowLander> because it prints pink 02:24 < nagi> fake: just for dipi... not for all pills. 02:24 < fake> maybe it's a scanner born into the body of a printer? 02:25 < fake> nagi: what's in it? benzodiazepin? 02:26 < mnemoc> fake: i have one of those :\ 02:26 < fake> mnemoc: evil stuff. 02:26 < mnemoc> hell yeah 02:26 < nagi> dunno. "leicht potentes neuroleptika" i don't know what it contains exactly... (sitting in another room, and too lazy to move /me ) 02:26 < fake> ah! i have taxilat for that. 02:27 < fake> really a kick, if you manage to stay awake 02:27 < nagi> why? 02:27 < fake> mine always make me kinda sleepy 02:28 < LowLander> ok coma time 02:28 < fake> huh? 02:29 < nagi> yep. mine too... if i'm taking it in the evening... but i have to take 10 mg in the morning + trevilor (75 mg) --> makes more "relaxed" (but i dont "bemerke" something from the antidepr. wirkugn) 02:29 < fake> bemerke = notice 02:29 < fake> wirkung... hm... effect i'd say 02:29 < nagi> thx. i'm - don't know - in strange mood. like auf entzug 02:30 < fake> turkey ;) 02:30 < nagi> turikeyo0? 02:30 < fake> turky? 02:30 < nagi> rbx h 02:30 < mnemoc> fake: 'auf entzug'? 02:30 < fake> entzug 02:30 < fake> deprivation 02:30 < mnemoc> oh 02:30 < fake> i got 100mg dosises ... *g* 02:31 < nagi> thx. sorry. no trafic free for dict.leo.org 02:31 < nagi> of what? 02:31 < fake> neuroleptika 02:31 < mnemoc> nagi: don't worry, fake translates :) 02:31 < nagi> <- get's hieghets dosises of trevilor. and normal dosis of neuroleptika *har* 02:32 < nagi> btw, might i have found a place for therapy :)))) 02:32 < fake> where? 02:33 < nagi> in wolnzach... still have to meet this person for the first 5 sessions... but he has at least a free place 02:33 < nagi> GAAAAAAAAAH! now i know what i forgot today. shit. *bangs with head against wall* 02:34 < nagi> rotfl. this navigator also includes "fast food"-add-ons :p 02:35 < fake> navigator? 02:35 < nagi> "grosser reiseplaner 2004/2005" from marco polo 02:35 < nagi> https://www.mapandguide.com/Portals/GRP05/start_addon.htm 02:36 < nagi> just need another one for spain/islas de baleares (and gps-support incl. in this one, too) 02:36 < fake> you got a gps mouse? 02:37 < nagi> not yet. but will buy one soon. (might next week). why? 02:40 < nagi> shit. it has also mallorca there 02:41 < fake> because i just finished an order for 3 pcs. 02:41 < nagi> i c. which mouse? 02:42 < fake> https://www.navilock.de/produkte/usb_gps.html 02:42 < fake> i get a pretty good discount 02:44 < nagi> hmm. i just don't see a price... 02:44 < fake> nagi: i'm ordering it via veit (ez) 02:45 < nagi> ok 02:56 -!- esden is now known as esden|zZz 02:57 < fake> esden! 02:57 < esden|zZz> fake: ! 02:57 -!- esden|zZz is now known as esden 02:57 < fake> welcome to the EU! 02:57 < esden> hi ho ... long time no see 02:57 < esden> yes now I am in the same sinking boat as you are ;) 02:58 < fake> i'm gonna call you 'european' now *g* 02:58 < esden> lol 02:58 < esden> thanks 02:58 < esden> very kind of you 02:58 < nagi> hi esden 02:58 * esden sitting hungry in bitz >_< 02:59 < esden> I only wanted something from mac donalds ... and parked here 02:59 < fake> but? 02:59 < esden> but the closed 5 minutes before I arrived >_< 02:59 < fake> esden: macdrive is open longer 03:00 < esden> and I thought that when I am hungry then I could distract me from that fact starting up my laptop 03:00 < esden> it is not working so well >_< 03:00 < fake> swept away -> mozarelle stick ? 03:01 < fake> *mozarella 03:01 < esden> hmm ... the question is how long the kitchen has open 03:01 < fake> esden: only one way to find out ;) if it's closed already, i suggest 2 long island ice teas 03:01 < esden> woow I found something in the fridge of bitz ... ketchup ;) I could take also the shugar and eat ketchup with shugar or so ;) 03:02 < esden> fake: alcohol is not that good when you still have to drive your car home ;) 03:02 < fake> esden: but you won't want to eat anything anymore ;) 03:03 < esden> fake: that is a true truth 03:03 < fake> are there false truthes ? 03:03 < esden> ok ... I will checkout the fridge at home .. I hope that my parents will not wake up 03:03 * esden be back in half an hour or so ... perhups less 03:03 < fake> ok, bye, european ;) 03:04 < esden> cu fake ;) 03:06 < nagi> bye esden 03:34 < esden> re hi 03:34 < esden> ok ... now searching for food 03:40 * esden has food now 04:08 < esden> good night everyone 04:08 -!- esden is now known as esden|zZz 05:25 < nagi> shit. it's a bit late 05:49 -!- bbmak1 [~bbmak@adsl-64-171-3-148.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:49 < bbmak1> i am using redhat 9. how come i don't have rpm --rebuild command??? and when i try rpm -ivh package.src.rpm it said can not create %sourcedir 06:21 -!- bbmak1 [~bbmak@adsl-64-171-3-148.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net] has quit [] 06:49 < mnemoc> what was that? 06:50 -!- togg [~togg@pD9ED3A6F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 06:51 -!- togg [~togg@pD9E5B0F8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 07:42 -!- plasma- [~foo@206.63.200.33] has quit ["I'd rather be lucky than good"] 07:49 -!- MadTux [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 07:49 < MadTux> gi 07:49 < MadTux> hi 08:05 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M330P010.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 08:10 < blindy> moin 08:11 < MadTux> hi blindy und n00kie 08:23 -!- nookie [~nookie@M202P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:29 -!- capek [~kasal@195.113.30.57] has joined #rocklinux 08:29 -!- capek [~kasal@195.113.30.57] has left #rocklinux [] 09:30 -!- k3t_ [k3t@pD9E8DD41.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:30 -!- lowy [erwin@pD9EBFA91.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:45 -!- k3t__ [k3t@pD9E8E41B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:47 -!- LowLander [erwin@pD9EBE6CF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:49 < nookie_> hi MadTux 09:56 < MadTux> greetings n00kie 10:00 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAB3EE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:02 < netrunne1> moinsen 10:02 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 10:14 < rxr> re 10:16 < MadTux> hello rxr 10:21 < netrunner> where is wxwindows? 10:21 < MadTux> nety! 10:21 < netrunner> find package/ -name wxwindows shows nothing :/ 10:21 < netrunner> 932 builds total, 926 completed fine, 6 with errors. 10:26 < netrunner> 3 dependency problems, 2 missing packages in config 10:26 < netrunner> MadTuxy ;) 10:41 < blindy> it is now called wxwidgets 10:43 < netrunner> when the arrows enter escape characters while trying to move around in insert mode in vim, what is wrong? 10:44 < blindy> $TERM 10:44 < blindy> but this also happens during $TERM conversion 10:45 < blindy> ie, when using something like: ssh -> ssh -> screen -> vim 10:45 < netrunner> I have this problem in a remote screen. 10:45 < netrunner> jup, exactly 10:45 < blindy> I have yet to find a solution 10:45 < blindy> for that 10:45 < blindy> hell, I haven't even found the cause yet 10:46 < blindy> guess it has something to do with ncurses being mixed with termcap or some such 11:00 < tcr> try 11:00 < tcr> :set notimeout " don't timeout on mappings 11:00 < tcr> :set ttimeout " do timeout on terminal key codes 11:00 < tcr> :set timeoutlen=100 " timeout after 100 msec 11:00 * MadTux reallt needing a bed 11:12 -!- MadTux [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has quit ["Leaving"] 11:48 < rxr> hi 11:49 < daja77> hi rxr 11:59 < netrunner> hi daja, rxr 12:00 < daja77> hi netrunner 12:03 < tcr> netrunner, did it work? 12:14 < netrunner> tcr: not yet tried. 12:15 * netrunner currently searching for the usb-scanner module in 2.6.4 12:18 < rxr> netrunner: why? 12:19 < netrunner> rxr: I want to scan, basically ;) 12:19 < rxr> the last time I saw it it got marked OBSOLETE and does not show up when you have deselected the experimental and/or broken option 12:19 -!- nookie [~nookie@M260P023.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 12:19 < rxr> AFAIK you do not need it - you can scan thru libusb from user-space 12:19 < rxr> (at least you do not need it with my SANE/Avision driver - maybe you have a extreme fucked up driver ... :-) 12:20 < rxr> what scanner is this? 12:20 < netrunner> mustek 1200 cu 12:20 < rxr> read the man-page - if libusb works it is far more stable - you do not want the scanner driver 12:23 < netrunner> do I have to activate the usage of libusb somehow? I always typed xsane and it found my scanner :/ 12:24 < rxr> is /proc/bus/usb mounted? 12:24 < netrunner> hm, no. 12:24 < rxr> does the scanner device in /proc/bus/usb/00?/??? the correct permissions 12:24 < rxr> if unsure - try as root ... 12:24 < rxr> hm - recent ROCK version mount /proc/bus/usb/... 12:25 < netrunner> ROCK Linux 2.0.1 (2004/03/26) 12:25 < rxr> or maybe you have a custom kernel without usbfs enabled? 12:25 < rxr> to mount manually: 12:25 < netrunner> mounted it now. 12:25 < rxr> mount none /proc/bus/usb -r usbfs 12:25 < rxr> s/-r/-t/ obviously 12:27 < netrunner> ah, ok. now it finds the scanner (as root) 12:27 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M330P010.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 12:27 < netrunner> thx rxr. I'll check why usbfs does not get mounted at boot. 12:28 < rxr> ROCK Plug should also set the permissions 12:28 < rxr> and really - you do not want the scanner module ;-) 12:28 < netrunner> rxr: I really do not care. I want to scan :) 12:29 < rxr> I guess you want to scan without crashing your workstation ;-) 12:29 < rxr> /etc/rockplug/usb.init: mount -t usbfs none /proc/bus/usb 2> /dev/null 12:29 < rxr> maybe no ROCK Plug ? 12:30 < rxr> https://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert/archive/dilbert-20040501.html 12:42 < rxr> oh no - my oh my: 12:42 < rxr> The function name for __vmx_longjmp was missspelled which cuased 12:42 < rxr> longjmp@GLIBC_2.3.4 to be undefined. 12:42 < rxr> are those people crazy? ?!?!? They have not even tagged nor released 2.3.3 and they now work towards 2.3.4? 12:43 < rxr> does glibc transform into a big-distros only hack - which needs tons of patches to compile without future releases? 12:46 < daja77> O_o 12:48 < rxr> hm - my gcc-3.4 glibc does segfault ... :-( 12:57 < netrunner> rxr: rockplug.init stops after mesg "Scanning usb subsystem". 12:58 < netrunner> I cannot find a definition for mesg, only the /usr/bin/mesg -> mesg - control write access to your terminal 12:58 < netrunner> ah, yes found it. 13:00 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAB3EE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 13:11 < netrunner> rxr: /etc/rockplug/usb.init:33 why compare to 2? this removes my usb modules even when I have 001 and devices in /proc/bus/usb 13:13 < rxr> devices and drivers should be at least present 13:14 < rxr> what does ls /proc/bus/usb yield for you? 13:16 -!- k3t_ [k3t@pD9E8DD41.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Why?"] 13:19 < netrunner> rxr: when mounted: 001 devices 13:21 < netrunner> could it be that this -le 2 was meant to catch . and .. ? 13:22 < rxr> oehm - ok then this is a 2.6 change ... 13:22 < rxr> the check is not from me - I think it is not necessary anyway 13:22 < rxr> just remove it - I'll do so in ROCK Plug SVN soon, tooo 13:22 < netrunner> 934 builds total, 929 completed fine, 5 with errors. btw. (2 related to electricfence (did never compile here) and a depending) 13:24 < rxr> oh my - my mail logs are growing that fast: 13:24 < rxr> 102M mainlog 13:24 < rxr> 0 paniclog 13:24 < rxr> 942M rejectlog 13:24 < rxr> this is not even the full last months ... 13:24 < rxr> month even 13:29 < rxr> damn need to tune my spamassassin again to let "How to reset your Apple.com password" thru ... 13:35 < rxr> hm - cool driver style: 13:35 < rxr> class UniNEnet: public IOEthernetController 13:39 < rxr> hm - cool it does not seem to be too tricky to implement wake-on-lan for my iBook in Linux 13:39 < rxr> I just need to reread the APSL again to make clear it is legal to use my inspiration from those 5 lines of code from the OSX driver ... 13:40 < rxr> otherwise I need to wait for someone else to fix the driver ... :-( 13:41 < rxr> but the OSX ethernet driver I just taken a look on is really pretty 13:42 * rxr putting OpenDarwin based ROCK on the TODO 13:42 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8DA11.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:42 -!- lowy is now known as LowLander 13:53 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8C928.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:54 < SMP> the gstreamer people appear to be unable to release code that actually compiles ... 13:55 < rxr> I know 13:56 < rxr> many Gnome people seem to be unable to write non-ugly C code ... 13:59 < LowLander> is there something like "non-ugly" C code ? :-) 13:59 < LowLander> morning , btw 14:00 < rxr> if you ask me no - but there is better C code then most Gnome packages out there ... 14:01 < rxr> ok - let's see how this goes: 14:01 < rxr> == 14:00:50 =[1]=> Building powerpc/linux24benh [2.4.25-benh1-rxr 2.1.0-DEV]. 14:01 * rxr getting used to -rxr special packages ... 14:03 < SMP> $ tty 14:03 < SMP> /dev/pts/262 14:04 < SMP> this kernel appears to have a problem with deallocating ptys ... 14:05 -!- tfing_ [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-1-253.w193-253.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 14:08 < rxr> ... - which one is it 14:08 < SMP> 2.6.5 14:11 < rxr> hm - I run only 2.6.3 on my SPARCS ... 14:12 < rxr> btw. has the ACPI problem with your Sony laptop been solved? 14:12 < SMP> well, 'yes'. it was a little different than I thought 14:12 < SMP> the interrupts do get assigned differently, but only the sonypi driver is the problem 14:13 < SMP> not loading it makes everything else work 14:15 < rxr> oj 14:15 < rxr> hm - fietlibc 0.25-final has an interesting change: 14:15 < rxr> --- dietlibc-0.25-rxr/lib/execvp.c 2002-01-21 16:30:17.000000000 +0100 14:15 < rxr> +++ dietlibc-0.25/lib/execvp.c 2004-03-07 22:44:51.000000000 +0100 14:15 < rxr> @@ -38,7 +38,7 @@ 14:15 < rxr> if (execve(buf,argv,environ)==-1) { 14:15 < rxr> if (errno==ENOEXEC) 14:15 < rxr> return __exec_shell(buf,argv); 14:15 < rxr> - if ((errno!=EACCES) && (errno!=ENOENT)) return -1; 14:15 < rxr> + if ((errno!=EACCES) && (errno!=ENOENT) && (errno!=ENOTDIR)) return -1; 14:15 < rxr> } 14:15 < rxr> if (*next==0) break; 14:15 < rxr> next++; 14:15 < rxr> if this would have fixed our linuxrc problem ... 14:25 -!- tfing [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-1-212.w193-253.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:25 -!- tfing_ is now known as tfing 14:35 < valentin> war in front of my house... 14:37 < valentin> there are about 500 nazis on one side and even more antifa on the other side 14:37 < blindy> o_O 14:37 < valentin> and three times the police in the middle trying to separate the groups\ 14:37 < blindy> make photos :) 14:37 < valentin> damn, i have no digicam here 14:37 < blindy> suchs 14:37 < SMP> you just gotta love Berlin ;-) 14:38 < valentin> but i've seen some indymedia guys filming 14:38 < valentin> SMP: esp on may, 1st 14:40 < valentin> the funny thing: this time the punks are peacefull and the nazis start to riot, so the police started to confront them - this was definitly the first time ever i've seen punks shouting encouragement for the police :) 14:42 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAB71A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:43 < rxr> valentin: .oO (I should not come over to you today) 14:44 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 14:44 * netrunner driving to heidelberg 14:45 < valentin> rxr: this would be complicated, since the police blocks "Bahnhof Lichtenberg" and "Lichtenberger Bruecke" 14:46 < valentin> oh, the cheers get louder, so they seem to march forward 14:47 * valentin takes a look outside what's happening now 14:47 < rxr> hey - go on coding! 14:47 < LowLander> hehe 14:47 -!- Ankur [~Ankur@61.16.237.64] has joined #rocklinux 14:47 < tcr> moin all 14:47 * LowLander looks outside and sees nothing (not suprising for Holzkirchen) 14:48 * tcr enjoys drinking Muellermilch and reading SICP 14:49 < tcr> and listening to music, of course 14:50 * tcr grumbles, because he just realized that Star Trek won't be broadcasted today.. #@!$ 14:53 < rxr> ok - next powerpc/linux24benh [2.4.25-benh1-rxr 2.1.0-DEV] try 14:59 < rxr> ok - now it is going beyond the patch applying 14:59 < rxr> valentin: do you want test 2.4.24-benh1-rxr later? 15:00 < rxr> (when it proves to survive a compilation and bootup ...) 15:11 < valentin> rxr" yes 15:12 < valentin> ouh, now there seems to be a streetfight just below my flat 15:14 < valentin> ok, they redirected the nazis into another directions, so the opposing groups start to move away 15:29 -!- Ankur [~Ankur@61.16.237.64] has quit [Client Quit] 15:32 < LowLander> and can you see the bottom of yer car from yer window ? 15:32 < LowLander> or didn't they turn it upside down yet ? 15:46 < valentin> no, they didn't turn any cars upside down 15:47 < valentin> they just threw some traffic signs and other stuff on the street and were beaten by the police 15:49 -!- owl [~owl@dialin-212-144-144-137.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:49 < owl> moin 15:50 < valentin> moin owl 15:50 < owl> hi valentin 16:28 < mnemoc> moin 16:35 < owl> hi mnemoc 16:38 -!- link_ [~link_@adsl-212-101-21-193.solnet.ch] has joined #rocklinux 16:46 < mnemoc> hi owl 16:56 < rxr> rehi 17:02 < link_> hi rxr 17:02 < link_> hi owl 17:02 < link_> whereis mike1? 17:02 < link_> locate Mike1 17:02 < link_> find / -name Mike1 17:03 < link_> :/ 17:05 < daja77> mike is off and hasn't used this nick for a while 17:07 < rxr> the last time he was here: 17:07 < rxr> 11:12 -!- MadTux [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:08 < link_> okay :) 17:12 -!- link_ [~link_@adsl-212-101-21-193.solnet.ch] has quit ["leaving"] 17:12 -!- link_ [~link_@adsl-212-101-21-193.solnet.ch] has joined #rocklinux 17:20 -!- link_ [~link_@adsl-212-101-21-193.solnet.ch] has quit ["gone burn google with that ati 3d driver again!"] 17:25 -!- trekkie3k [~k3t@pD9E8DD41.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:25 [Users #rocklinux] 17:25 [ Aard ] [ esden|zZz] [ mistik1 ] [ owl ] [ tcr ] 17:25 [ blindy ] [ fake ] [ mnemoc ] [ rolla ] [ tfing ] 17:25 [ Bos^awk_] [ Freak ] [ nagi ] [ rxr ] [ th_ ] 17:25 [ daja77 ] [ jsaw ] [ netcrow ] [ SMP ] [ togg ] 17:25 [ darix ] [ LowLander] [ netrunner] [ snyke ] [ trekkie3k] 17:25 [ dsoul ] [ luckz ] [ nookie ] [ StefanG] [ valentin ] 17:25 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 30 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 30 normal] 17:35 -!- link_ [~link_@adsl-212-101-21-193.solnet.ch] has joined #rocklinux 17:38 -!- owl [~owl@dialin-212-144-144-137.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 17:49 -!- link_ [~link_@adsl-212-101-21-193.solnet.ch] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 17:54 < SMP> libtool: compile: unable to infer tagged configuration 17:54 < SMP> libtool: compile: specify a tag with `--tag' 17:54 < SMP> what the hell? 18:05 < rxr> never saw this 18:05 < rxr> what packages? 18:05 < SMP> xfsprogs 18:05 < rxr> ouhm 18:05 < SMP> but only during manual build 18:06 * SMP adds xfsprogs to the list of packges with fucked up autoconf usage 18:10 < SMP> wow, mc is so smart. it creates vc devices in /dev during installation 18:13 < rxr> oh - wow 18:14 < SMP> wow, /root/.mozilla/plugins/mplayerplug-in.so is _so_ useful 18:14 < SMP> NOT! 18:15 < rxr> oehm - mozilla creates this file? 18:15 < SMP> no, mplayerplug-in 18:15 < SMP> /tmp/test.wav *rotfl* 18:16 < rxr> oh - mlayer overread this 18:17 < SMP> incredible, the xfs package builds, but it fails manual build in the same environment 18:17 < SMP> s,xfs,&progs, 18:17 < rxr> hm - some ROCK fixup magic? 18:18 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8C3A2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:30 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8DA11.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] --- Log opened Sat May 01 18:57:15 2004 18:58 < rxr> damn shit 18:58 < rxr> at least it is time to configure everything to come up after boot up correctly 18:59 < rxr> valentin_: what caused the power shortage? 18:59 < valentin_> don't know. once again a fuse jumped out - but this time nobody had turned of the main fuse 19:00 < rxr> hm 19:00 < valentin_> and there are less consumers on power now than on other days. 19:00 < rxr> maybe s.o. switched on a CRT? 19:00 < valentin_> CRT ? 19:00 < rxr> Cathodic Ray Tube 19:01 < rxr> Or Cathod ? 19:01 < valentin_> no, the tv was on before 19:02 < rxr> Cathode ;-) 19:02 < rxr> ok - exim will come up jailed the next time 19:03 < tcr> switch on mtv 19:03 < valentin_> aehm rene, what did you do with our iptables 19:03 < tcr> LOL, that's to pathetically ridiculous 19:03 < valentin_> i cannot establish any new connection 19:04 < valentin_> oh, forwarding seems to be disabled ? 19:04 < rxr> now ? 19:04 * rxr need to migrate the server to ROCK Net 19:05 < rxr> valentin_: you uped ppp0 manually I guess? 19:05 < valentin_> ok 19:06 < valentin_> yes, and i did not run /etc/conf/....sh 19:07 < rxr> yes I know 19:07 * rxr did this 19:07 < rxr> so svnserve.init is not the one form rocklinux/trunk:HEAD to su http ... 19:07 < rxr> it will also come up automatically next time ... 19:08 < rxr> so what to do with the DSL fluff - hack s.th. - or convert to ROCK Net ... 19:08 < rxr> and finally - what todo with irrsi logging ;-) 19:09 < rxr> irssi even 19:09 < valentin_> rxr: rocknet 19:13 < rxr> oh god: 19:13 < rxr> # du -csh * 19:13 < rxr> 102M mainlog 19:13 < rxr> 4.0k paniclog 19:13 < rxr> 946M rejectlog 19:13 < rxr> 1.1G total 19:13 < rxr> this damn SPAM crap 19:15 < tcr> So funny. The guy on mtv (currently commercial break) said he's a "total nerd", and mtv showed him surfing at ./ ("news for nerds"), then he exposed his cool "hacker magazine" 2600; and then, which is so utterly funny, he told that 1000 bits are one byte, 1000 bytes are one megabyte, and 1000 megabytes one gigabyte. 19:15 < SMP> well, he's correct 19:15 < tcr> So pathetic 19:16 < SMP> ehm 19:16 < SMP> forget that 19:17 < SMP> I was focussing on the 1000 multiplier (which is correct for kB->MB->GB) 19:17 < tcr> Strictly yeah 19:17 < rxr> 1000 _bits_ ? 19:18 < SMP> rxr: now _that's_ where he's wrong 19:18 < tcr> Well, very strictly and in decimal system 19:19 < SMP> the 1000 multiplier is officially standardized, units with 1024 multiplier have slightly different prefixes 19:24 * rxr just nearly wipped the gcc34 work 19:24 < rxr> but my download is in /dev/null heaven now ... 19:24 < rxr> at least s.th. to saturate my DSL line with ... 19:24 < SMP> =] 19:26 < rxr> why has scp a "-l" option and ssh not ?!? 19:26 < rxr> at least rsync has .... 19:26 < valentin_> rxr: ssh has a -l option 19:27 < valentin_> rxr: but it has a different effect 19:27 < rxr> yeah - sure 19:27 < rxr> I meant equivalent 19:28 < SMP> you need to type really fast if you need bandwidth-limiting for ssh =) 19:28 < rxr> SMP: tunneling rsync, CVS, ... ? 19:29 < SMP> yeah, yeah, I know 19:29 < SMP> not that CVS could perform so fast that limiting it could actually have any effect, though ... 19:30 < rxr> SMP: ;-) 19:30 < rxr> I only wanted to take a look for rsync - I did not know that rsync has an own one 19:31 < rxr> oh - PowerPC64 has hardware sqrt 19:32 < rxr> hehe https://www.blender.org/ 19:32 < SMP> are there FPUs that don't? AFAIK even hardcoe RISC CPUs do 19:35 < rxr> ah yes, the x86 has this too - wiped that out of my memory 19:36 < rxr> quite slow - 486 needs 85.5 instructions for it ... 19:36 < rxr> erhm s/intstrcuctions/cycles/ 19:42 < SMP> vec_rsqrte() hmmm 19:42 < valentin_> rxr: pcm/tests/ArithmeticTest 19:45 < valentin_> rxr: oh, that was sin not sqrt 20:04 -!- Bos^awk [~BoS@dialin-212-144-081-189.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:15 -!- Bos^awk_ [~BoS@dialin-212-144-017-232.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:20 -!- nookie [~nookie@M260P023.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20:20 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M299P021.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 20:45 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAB71A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:51 < rxr> SMP: didn't you once wanted to package pump ? 21:28 < SMP> yes and no .. 21:28 < rxr> ? 21:28 < SMP> we have dhcpcd already, that's just as good 21:29 < SMP> it just needs some rocknet integration 21:29 < rxr> hm - we seem to miss some bind default config files ... 21:30 * rxr just playing with this bind dung for the first time 21:30 < rxr> (yes I know there a tinier, prettier, more secure nameservers out there ...) 21:30 < SMP> *shrug* I stopped using it ... years ago 21:30 < rxr> do you have s.th. better handy not using djb init crap? 21:31 * rxr just needs a forwarder + local resolution 21:31 < rxr> nothing for the wild ... 21:32 < SMP> hmm, some things exist, but I can't recommend anything 21:41 -!- Netsplit vinge.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: blindy, nagi, netrunne1, valentin_, LowLander, snyke 21:42 -!- Netsplit over, joins: valentin_, netrunne1, LowLander, blindy, nagi, snyke 21:58 -!- rugek [~rugek@217.245.191.116] has joined #rocklinux 22:15 -!- k3t_ [k3t@pD9E8F48B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:16 < daja77> why the heck it is not possible to build a hppa cross compiler with gcc 3.2.3 >_< 22:23 < SMP> it isn't? 22:26 -!- trekkie3k [~k3t@pD9E8DD41.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:27 -!- rugek [~rugek@217.245.191.116] has quit ["leaving"] 22:29 < rxr> SMP: any tiny suggestion into what nameserver to look into? 22:29 < rxr> s.th. not needing djb service s.th. mess 22:31 < SMP> I don't know anything else if you're looking for something lightweight for mostly resolving business 22:35 < rxr> hm 22:38 < SMP> a few things exist, but I can't point you do anything particular 22:38 < rxr> maybe s.th. not that bad to start with? 22:38 < mnemoc> re 22:39 < SMP> really, I don't know any names in that class ;) 22:39 < rxr> ok 22:39 < rxr> hi mnemoc 22:39 < rxr> cu all 22:39 < mnemoc> cu rxr 22:39 -!- ridley [~ridley@75.108.35.65.cfl.rr.com] has joined #rocklinux 22:45 < daja77> SMP: no i get strange compile errors 22:59 < ridley> How does rock have depency "detection"? 23:02 < SMP> we trace all file accesses, so we know which files a package creates and which files of other packages it accesses 23:03 < SMP> this gets you automagic build dependencies 23:04 < ridley> Thats interesting... 23:04 < SMP> which can (could) be automatically reduced to run-time dependencies, but that's not being done at the moment 23:05 < SMP> only in the brains of the person who does the install 23:06 < ridley> I read on the rock sie about not keeping backwards compatibility, is there somekind of system to automatically keep-restore important files such as fstab or make.conf? 23:06 < ridley> I should probably say not _focusing_ on back-compat 23:09 < mnemoc> on 2.x 'series' we do 23:10 < ridley> mnemoc: back-compat or automatic file protection 23:10 < mnemoc> back-compat, automatic file protection has been there for a while 23:12 < ridley> Gotcha 23:13 < mnemoc> but.. back-compat has been very present too.... we still carry bdb33, glibc22 and gcc2.95 23:13 < mnemoc> (just as a few examples) 23:14 < ridley> SO, I was interested in installing rock, but I was unclear on how to go about starting, it seemd like the iso's were unnoffical and possibly outdated, I was unlear as to which one to grab 23:16 < mnemoc> ROCK is not a bunch of isos, ROCK is the framework to build sub-rock distributions 23:16 < mnemoc> you can start installing a 'minimal' and then build your own, or Emerge stuff over it 23:16 < ridley> I guess I don't understand exactly what Rock is, I'm thinking of Gentoo, or source mage as comparison 23:18 < mnemoc> ROCK produce isos you install in how many machines you want, and it _also_ has tools to work as gentoo 23:19 < ridley> Does ROCK have its own package mangement system? WHy would you use rock and then gentoo tools instead of just using gentoo 23:20 < mnemoc> ROCK work with it's own package format (.gem) which you can install using `mine` 23:20 -!- owl [~owl@dialin-212-144-144-137.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:20 < owl> remoin 23:21 < mnemoc> it can also work with the classic .tar.bz2 to install prebuilt binaries (built using ROCK's framework) 23:22 < mnemoc> ROCK let's you build in your best machine and install wherever you want :) 23:22 < mnemoc> hi owl 23:22 < mnemoc> and as many times as you want 23:23 < mnemoc> it's not a 'source based' distribution, it's a distribution build kit 23:24 < ridley> so the purpose of rock is to build a distribution, not so much _be_ a distribution? 23:25 < mnemoc> the built distribution is a distribution :) 23:25 < mnemoc> you can use it an maintain it as any distribution 23:25 < mnemoc> but ROCK itself is not a distribution 23:26 < ridley> Has anyone built any popular distros using ROCK? 23:27 < mnemoc> at least to me, 'popular' is not a priority, stable and easy to maintain are. 23:27 < SMP> depends on your definition of 'popular' ;> 23:27 < mnemoc> =) 23:27 < SMP> but no, no 'popular' distributions are based on Rock 23:28 < ridley> I've seen claims that linux is the most popular OS =) which I agree in that sense 23:30 < mnemoc> 'people' want's a free ms windows-like OSs, and that make popular linux based distributions 23:31 < mnemoc> s/want's/wants/ 23:35 < ridley> My family uses Linux from time to time and don;t even realise it, as long as they can play minesweeper, browse the web, and write a document here or there, its all good 23:35 * daja77 now buildung gcc 3.4 cross compiler ... 23:36 < mnemoc> hi daja77 23:36 < daja77> hi mnemoc --- Log closed Sun May 02 00:00:47 2004