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--- Log opened Mon May 03 00:00:02 2004 00:05 -!- link_ [~link_@adsl-212-101-21-193.solnet.ch] has joined #rocklinux 00:26 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux.net/typo3/index.php?id=98&backPID=99&tt_news=43 00:29 < mnemoc> oh! 00:29 < mnemoc> will you mail to the monks? 00:30 * daja77 thinking of throwing his build away and restarting with 3.4 00:31 < mnemoc> me too 00:31 < daja77> hehe and i already downloaded it 00:32 < daja77> only creating cross compiler by hand does not work, cos there is no useful documentation 00:34 < link_> hi all 00:34 < link_> :) 00:37 < mnemoc> hi link_ 00:41 < mnemoc> WTF!?!! my linux.cfg disappeared 00:41 < daja77> rxr: do you have a compressed tarball of glibc, 118mb are much waste of bandwith? 00:42 < mnemoc> rxr: send it to the mirrors :) 00:42 < daja77> this would take a while 00:42 < rxr> mom 00:42 < link_> what are you doing all? 00:43 < rxr> developing 00:43 < daja77> annyoing our machines with new builds ^^ 00:44 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M194P017.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 00:44 -!- link_ [~link_@adsl-212-101-21-193.solnet.ch] has quit ["brb"] 00:46 < rxr> daja77: when I push it to the mirrors manually it caon takes hours if not a day until the master one picks it from my server 00:46 < rxr> + the cvs download is compressed with -z9 ... 00:47 < daja77> so i should better dload from cvs? 00:47 < rxr> do not forget to smap the gcc34 glibc234 compile fixes I have send in seperated chukns 00:48 < daja77> i applied all of your today's patches 00:48 < rxr> when you want it from mirrors you would need to wait at least until lunch or so to show up ... 00:48 * rxr thinks about testing this changes on my x86 box - so daja77 and mnemoc will nto kill when it fails ... 00:49 < daja77> i kept my my old build just in case ^^ 00:50 < daja77> k. i haven't applied you benh updates ^^ 00:51 < mnemoc> :) 00:52 < rxr> a svn:// checkout on a RAID5'ed SVN server is cool 00:52 < rxr> only takes some seconds ... 00:52 * rxr just sm create'ed < 1 mintue ;-) 00:52 < rxr> T1 for the server anyone? 00:52 < daja77> wow 00:55 < daja77> clifford wanted to throw ouit the cvs co thing from desc files ... 00:56 < rxr> when , why? 00:58 < mnemoc> uhm? 01:00 -!- nookie [~nookie@M344P025.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:05 < rxr> hm - somehow download lockign does not work anymore 01:05 < rxr> I wanted to be in bed right now :-( damn 01:06 < daja77> to force people creating tarballs instead 01:07 < daja77> me too ^^ 01:07 < daja77> that counter must be wrong it claimes it lready got 42mb from glibc, sounds too fast for me 01:08 < rxr> daja77: the counter does a repeated `du ...` in the download dir 01:08 < rxr> it is right 01:08 < rxr> but it include .CVS dirs and such 01:08 < rxr> and the download is compressed using -z9 - so it should be correct 01:08 < daja77> ah k. 01:22 < rxr> ok - next article prepared, too 01:22 < rxr> just hidden until some commits from clifford 01:22 < rxr> (page coutner hit 1200 ... ;-) 01:23 < rxr> package evne 01:24 * rxr starting a x86 minimal target with the sm changes 01:25 < rxr> oejm - daja - I get a chksum error for your linux26 update ... 01:25 < daja77> O_o 01:26 < StefanG> n8 01:26 < rxr> n8 StefanG 01:27 < daja77> i was not 100% sure about that dowanlod, cos i made it on a crappy rh8, but that tarball worked after all ... 01:28 < daja77> >_< 01:28 * rxr is currently redownloading 01:29 < daja77> i thought that by so many votes ppl had tested this patch ... 01:30 < daja77> besides that i made a linux24 update :) 01:30 < rxr> ok so one second: 01:30 < rxr> cksum-test (bzip2): download/base/linux24/linux-2.4.26.tar.bz2 01:31 < rxr> ok worked 01:31 < daja77> oh good :) 01:31 < rxr> must be a crippled continued download 01:32 < rxr> so in some minutes I should know if I need to fix ghe ugly glibc for x86 ... 01:32 < rxr> == 05/03/04 01:32:31 =[0]=> Finished building package linux24-header. 01:33 < rxr> .oO 01:34 < daja77> vs -z9 -Q -d :pserver:anoncvs@sources.redhat.com:/cvs/glibc checkout -D 2004-05-01 -P libc/ 01:34 < daja77> ? libc/iconvdata/.new.gb18030.c 01:34 < daja77> ERROR: CVS -D 2004-05-01 anoncvs@sources.redhat.com:/cvs/glibc libc/ returned an error. 01:34 < daja77> >_< 01:35 < rxr> the thing should be able to continue partly checked out modules 01:36 < rxr> out of disk-space? or connection timed out ? 01:36 < daja77> yep the script is just now on other packages 01:36 < daja77> 16gb left ^^ 01:37 < daja77> it somehow feels like bein rh when using cvs glibc versions 01:40 < rxr> daja77: mnemoc: for updated glibc builds there is a hotfix in submaster 01:41 < daja77> :) 01:42 < rxr> as I commented there - I must have accidently reverted this part on my iBook during merging 01:43 < daja77> shit happens 01:43 < daja77> btw it is scaring how many patches we need for glibc 01:43 < daja77> applied 01:44 < rxr> it is scaring how many releases of glibc have been in the last 1 1/2 years 01:44 < daja77> yep that too 01:44 < daja77> 216K downloaded from CVS archive so far... 01:45 < daja77> ugh does that mean it is starting from scratch again 01:46 < daja77> maybe i shouldn't have removed src/Download-Errors 01:47 < daja77> k. reading book while downloading ... 01:50 < rxr> me off 01:51 < rxr> mabe I come back in some minutes to take a look on the x86 build ... 01:51 < rxr> if not I have fallen asleep over my book ...cu 02:03 < daja77> cu rxr 02:13 < rxr> ouhm linux24 on x86 does not compile 02:13 * rxr fixing 02:13 < SMP> with gcc-3.4? 02:14 < rxr> yes 02:14 < SMP> no surprise 02:14 < rxr> it is - it compiled on PowerPC ... 02:14 < LowLander> ./scripts/Build-Target: line 41: /home/erwin/l4l/rock-src-2.0.0/build/default-2.0.0-x86-athlon-tbird-32-cross-router/root/var/adm/flists/iptables: No such file or directory 02:15 < rxr> damn scheduler hacks 02:15 < SMP> even 2.6 was fixed for gcc 3.4 just recently 02:15 < LowLander> is an error i get at the end of a router build 02:15 < LowLander> cp: cannot stat `/home/erwin/l4l/rock-src-2.0.0/build/default-2.0.0-x86-athlon-tbird-32-cross-router/root/usr/share/pci.ids': No such file or directory 02:15 < LowLander> and that one 02:17 < LowLander> Did not find program binary for 'lspci'. and some others 02:24 < rxr> SMP: I saw this 02:24 < rxr> linux26 as in ROCK does also compile w/ gcc-3.4.0 on x86 02:24 < rxr> linux24 needs a bit patching 02:25 < rxr> strange that the sched.c compiled on PowerPC ... 02:25 < rxr> the FASTCALL macro must be different there ... 02:38 < daja77> re 02:40 < LowLander> ok 2:30 AM , come time 02:44 < daja77> what time? 02:44 < LowLander> coma even 02:44 < rxr> daja77: 02:44 02:46 < daja77> erh i know the clock ... 02:46 < daja77> glibc dload is finished now 02:48 < rxr> hm - x86 needs some tiny cross compile fixes 02:48 < rxr> daja77: do i need to do them now? 02:49 < rxr> or maybe I haver I got sleep? 02:51 < daja77> i could start the build tomorrow as well 02:51 < daja77> gn8 02:51 < rxr> n8 daja77 02:53 < daja77> n8 rxr 03:13 * rxr testing a gcc3 modification 03:29 < mnemoc> gcc33 will never be gcc3? 03:31 < mnemoc> LowLander: those are odd errors, try rebuilding corresponding pacakges 03:35 -!- nookie [~nookie@M194P017.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 03:36 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M194P017.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 05:44 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-41-96.reverse.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 05:44 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux 2.0.0 released! https://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html 05:44 -!- Topic set by SMP [] [Mon Mar 8 02:33:41 2004] 05:44 [Users #rocklinux] 05:44 [ Aard ] [ esden|zZz] [ Lorini ] [ nagi ] [ SMP ] [ togg ] 05:44 [ blindy] [ fake ] [ LowLander] [ netrunner] [ snyke ] [ valentin] 05:44 [ daja77] [ Freak ] [ luckz ] [ nookie ] [ StefanG] 05:44 [ darix ] [ jsaw ] [ mistik1 ] [ rolla ] [ tfing ] 05:44 [ dsoul ] [ k3t__ ] [ mnemoc ] [ rxr ] [ th_ ] 05:44 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 27 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 27 normal] 05:44 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Mon Aug 4 00:11:35 2003 05:44 -!- Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 7 secs 06:46 -!- togg [~togg@pD9E5BD7E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 06:51 -!- togg [~togg@pD9E5B441.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 07:54 -!- Lorini [~Andrea@stdw-wh-vip63.studentenwerk-bielefeld.de] has quit ["Irre explodieren nicht, wenn das Sonnenlicht sie trifft, ganz egal, wie irre sie sind."] 08:22 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8D916.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 08:31 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8D555.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 08:44 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M487P028.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 08:53 < fake> damn it 09:01 -!- nookie [~nookie@M194P017.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:05 < netrunne1> fake: ? 09:05 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 09:30 < fake> netrunner: the module loading shell is great 09:30 < fake> but it's not of much use, if loading modules doesn't work ! 09:31 -!- LowLander [erwin@pD9EBEC57.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 09:32 -!- LowLander [erwin@p54802D64.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:37 < netrunner> ugh? it worked once ... 09:37 < fake> netrunner: do you habe vmware? 09:37 < fake> try it... 09:37 < fake> it get's signal 8, and that's it 09:37 < netrunner> I didn't try it in a vmware. 09:37 < fake> it's the same on real hardware 09:38 < fake> in the module loading shell as well as in the kiss shell 09:38 < netrunner> fake: what have you done? built the new module-init tools? 09:38 < fake> i tracked that once, and it had to do something with missing sysenter support in dietlibc iirc 09:39 < fake> netrunner: yes, the default setting 09:39 < netrunner> fake: it definitely worked once. 09:39 * fake not sure 09:40 < fake> maybe i should try a bootdisk without module-init-tools 09:40 < netrunner> I tried it. I used the module loading shell because I needed it. 09:40 < fake> .oO( need to add config options for what modules to include in bootdisk to make it really useful ;) 09:41 < fake> firewire/sbp2 for my notebook 09:50 < netrunner> fake: reproduced the behaviour on my recent router build :( 09:51 -!- esden|zZz [~esdentem@apeiron-group.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:51 -!- esden|zZz [~esdentem@apeiron-group.de] has joined #rocklinux 09:54 < fake> :( 09:55 < jsaw> re 09:55 < jsaw> hi all 09:56 < fake> hi jsaw 09:56 < jsaw> hi fake 10:10 * netrunner riding his harley to the uni 10:10 < fake> proll ;) 10:10 < daja77> hehe 10:45 -!- blindcod1r [~blindcode@pD9E4FEA1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:46 -!- blindy [~blindcode@p50801CAF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 10:46 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindy 11:05 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@dialin-145-254-135-210.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:05 < nzg> hi 11:11 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@dialin-145-254-135-210.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["/lusr/bin/brain: received signal: SIGIDIOT"] 12:01 -!- BoS [~root@dialin-212-144-072-149.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:02 < BoS> moin 12:34 < jsaw> cu l8r 12:37 < LowLander> morning 13:25 -!- owl [~owl@D715c.d.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:38 < nagi> moin 13:38 < valentin> moin nagi 13:57 -!- nagi [~owl@aszlig.net] has quit ["see you on the other side... changing to localhost"] 13:58 -!- owl [~owl@D715c.d.pppool.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:03 -!- owl [~owl@D71d2.d.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:03 < owl> re 14:06 -!- tfing_ [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-2-98.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 14:14 -!- tfing [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-5-44.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 14:14 -!- tfing_ is now known as tfing 14:44 -!- togg [~togg@pD9E5B441.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 14:48 -!- togg [~togg@reverse-213-146-118-69.dialin.kamp-dsl.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:54 < rxr> rehi 15:14 < rxr> cu later 15:16 < rxr> gpri 16:44 -!- nookie [~nookie@M490P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 16:53 -!- owl [~owl@D71d2.d.pppool.de] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:02 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M487P028.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:17 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8CADF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:25 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8D916.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 17:38 -!- MadTux [~mike@master.hack-solutions.com] has joined #rocklinux 17:39 < MadTux> hi. 17:39 < daja77> ho MadTux 17:39 < MadTux> :) 17:49 < rolla> MadTux: 17:49 < MadTux> hi rolla 18:01 -!- togg [~togg@reverse-213-146-118-69.dialin.kamp-dsl.de] has quit ["Reconnecting"] 18:02 -!- togg [~togg@reverse-213-146-118-69.dialin.kamp-dsl.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:20 -!- link_ [~link_@adsl-212-101-21-193.solnet.ch] has joined #rocklinux 18:38 -!- MadTux [~mike@master.hack-solutions.com] has quit ["leaving"] 18:41 < link_> HI Mike :) 18:45 < rxr> rehi 18:45 < daja77> hi rxr 18:49 < link_> oh no, he's gone 18:50 < link_> he hates me :/ 18:50 < link_> i feel it 18:50 < daja77> hehe no 18:50 < daja77> he is just busy as always 18:52 < link_> okay :) 19:08 -!- owl [~owl@D70e2.d.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:08 < owl> re 19:25 -!- owl [~owl@D70e2.d.pppool.de] has quit ["sterben gehen"] 19:50 < rolla> re 19:50 * netrunne1 just found the movie "reign of fire" and starts watching 19:51 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 20:03 -!- martin [~martin@141.64.23.132] has joined #rocklinux 20:03 < martin> hi 20:06 < valentin> hi martin 20:06 < valentin> martin from tfh ? 20:07 < rxr> valentin: yes - TFH IP-space 20:07 < rxr> 141.64.... 20:08 < valentin> well, i saw the dfn's 141. 20:09 < blindy> hi 20:11 < martin> hi valentin, hi rxr :) 20:17 < martin> ok, bye. will go home 20:18 < rxr> all those students living in the university ... 20:19 < rxr> o my god - people hac shit: 20:19 < rxr> # Script to generate a sorted, complete list of signals, suitable 20:19 < rxr> # for inclusion in trap.c as array initializer. 20:20 -!- netcrow [~netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:22 -!- martin [~martin@141.64.23.132] has left #rocklinux ["bye bye"] 20:23 < fake> rxr: here? 20:23 < rxr> mom 20:23 < fake> just a question. clifford wanted you to test a SIP user agent a while ago. can you remember it's name? 20:24 < fake> (you couldn't test it, as only x86 binaries were availible) 20:25 -!- togg [~togg@reverse-213-146-118-69.dialin.kamp-dsl.de] has quit ["leaving"] 20:25 < th_> fake: linphone? 20:25 < rxr> fake: clifford wanted teamspeak - but it is bot sip 20:28 < fake> th_: linphone crashes when i want to open the configure dialog 20:28 < fake> rxr: oh 20:30 < rxr> fake: there does not seem to be a usable open-source soft-phone 20:30 < SMP> gnome-meeting? 20:30 < blindy> hmm 20:30 < blindy> strange... 20:30 < fake> SMP: it can speak SIP? 20:30 < SMP> but it's H.323 - even uglier than SIP 20:31 < blindy> nfs is slow as hell... 7k... while any TCP based protocol works just fine... 20:31 * fake has had enough of h.323 20:31 < valentin> does anyone know a _good_ opensource sip phone ? 20:31 < valentin> could even be a commandline client 20:31 < SMP> linphone is supposed to be the 'best' 20:31 < valentin> hm 20:32 < fake> the only one i got working partly is linphonec, but i don't know how to change the codec, the 'speex' one takes 10kb/s (!) 20:32 < SMP> fake: in ~/.linphonec 20:32 < valentin> afaik you can use the asterisk debug console to establish sip connections ,) 20:32 < fake> kphone is nice because of it's IM capability 20:32 < fake> SMP: where there? 20:33 < valentin> kphone does not speak valid sip 20:33 < darix> fake: speex 25.9 from teamspeak takes about 3,2kB/s (25.9/8) 20:33 < SMP> fake: [codecs]:audio_codecs 20:33 < fake> darix: that sounds nixe 20:33 < fake> nicwe 20:33 < fake> arghl 20:33 < darix> valentin: but it works. 20:33 < valentin> darix: not on ppc 20:33 -!- esden|zZz is now known as esden 20:33 < fake> SMP: if i re-order that, it still uses speex, didn't try to remove it though 20:34 < valentin> darix: it permanently sents wrong rtp timestamps and it does not even do a correct hangup 20:34 < darix> valentin: wrong platform :p 20:34 < valentin> i don't know if kphone conforms to the standart on x86 either 20:34 < SMP> darix: it loses the same way on x86 20:35 < darix> SMP: hm 20:35 < valentin> and have you ever tried to use kphone on a machine with multiple ethernet interfaces ? 20:35 < darix> valentin: yes..... 20:36 < darix> valentin: even on amd64 :) 20:36 < fake> kphone gives me almost only garbage 20:36 < darix> valentin: amd64 + onboard nic + realtek. 20:36 < valentin> but the startup is quite annoying - it pops up a dialog for every interface askin 'listen on interface eth134?' 20:36 < SMP> kphone pretends to do NAT-passthrough, it works for signalling, but STUN for RTP is really broken 20:37 * fake needs no special NAT stuff, on VPN anyway 20:37 < valentin> and last but not least - kphone is unable to handle a simple 404 error 20:37 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAA593.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:38 < valentin> ok, lets not talk about kphone anymore :) 20:38 < rxr> at least it rasied the google rating ... 20:39 < esden> hello everyone 20:41 < rxr> rehi esden 20:43 < fake> when i remove a codec in .linphonec, linphone adds it again. 20:43 < fake> <irony>how nice of it</irony> 20:56 -!- blindy [~blindcode@pD9E4FEA1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["new kernel"] 20:56 < valentin> the linphone package does not compile when glib is not installed to /usr ? 20:59 < rxr> valentin: no 20:59 < rxr> likely you hit some sanity check - which does not match with your installed gnome ... 21:00 * valentin investigates this 21:00 < rxr> a ROCK Linux sanity check 21:03 < rxr> ouch - mine fails to build 21:03 < rxr> head: `-1' option is obsolete; use `-n 1' 21:06 < rxr> oh my - this cdb thing has an ugly Makefile 21:10 < SMP> ``don't edit Makefile´´ 21:12 < rxr> SMP: ? 21:15 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@pD9E4FEA1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:15 < SMP> rxr: so it says on the first line 21:15 -!- blindcoder is now known as blindy 21:16 < SMP> apart from that, the DJB build system is an order of magnitude cleaner than autoconf 21:17 < rxr> it is highly ugly 21:17 < rxr> I mean both are highly ugly 21:18 < rxr> oh - now let's see how xfree86 likes gcc-3.4.0 21:19 < valentin> libosip-0.9.7 is not availaible on ftp.gnu.org because The following files are not available because their authenticity is 21:19 < valentin> being confirmed. We expect to have them uploaded Real Soon Now (RSN). 21:21 < SMP> it's been gone for months. use our mirrors 21:21 < valentin> 'real soon now' 21:22 < valentin> md5sum libosip-0.9.7 or what is their problem ? 21:24 < fake> valentin: maybe getting a last known good ? 21:24 < rxr> oki mine fixed, too 21:29 < rxr> what ugly code people produced over the years ... 21:30 -!- MadTux [~mike@master.hack-solutions.com] has joined #rocklinux 21:30 < MadTux> re 21:30 < MadTux> anyone awake? 21:31 < rxr> sure 21:31 < rxr> hi MadTux 21:31 < MadTux> hi rxr ! good u are hrer 21:31 < MadTux> i have 2 questions for u 21:31 < MadTux> 1. Where is the svn devel tree? 21:32 < MadTux> 2. Do you have any news for me on those sparc isos? 21:32 < MadTux> :) 21:32 < rxr> https://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-linux/trunk 21:32 < rxr> stable is at: 21:32 < rxr> https://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-linux/branches/2.0-stable 21:32 < MadTux> Okis. 21:32 < rxr> MadTux: no - I was a bit fazinated about gcc-3.4 and played with it - sorry 21:32 < MadTux> Its ok i understand.. 21:33 < rxr> but I SPARC soon, really ;-) 21:33 < MadTux> just please keep that in mind that.. I'm counting on u 21:34 < rxr> yes - I do 21:34 < tcr> Is there anything particular interesting on the new worm spreading around? 21:34 < tcr> Which even made it into the Tagesschau 21:34 < MadTux> thanks rxr 21:35 < LowLander> yeah it is incompatible with ROCK 21:35 < LowLander> you should really work on that 21:35 < LowLander> else ROCK never makes it in the nwes :-) 21:35 < tcr> Bummer 21:35 < LowLander> evening BTW :-) 21:35 < MadTux> hi LowLander 21:36 < rxr> ok - go out write ROCK Linxu only viruses and worms 21:36 < rxr> people will invest into ROCK products - especially into servers and firewalls 21:37 < LowLander> hehe 21:50 < valentin> tcr: tagesschau reported on most of the more widespread worms in the last month 21:50 < SMP> aaaak! 21:50 < SMP> a hardcoded prefix in package/kde/kdebase/kdm.cron 21:52 < tcr> valentin, I know. And I somewhat regret that they don't bring up a bit of critique.. 21:53 < valentin> tagesschau sucks... but there were even worse articles in the past. 21:53 < rxr> yeah - they could list affected and unaffected Operating Systems and/or client applications 21:54 < tcr> rxr: I mentioned affected flavors of MS OSes today 21:54 < valentin> or they could simply say that windows is dangerous, but the msnbc guys would not be amused. 21:55 -!- togg [~togg@reverse-213-146-118-69.dialin.kamp-dsl.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:57 < valentin> whenever i click on linphone's preferences menu entry the application crashes 'due to a fatal error' 21:57 < SMP> valentin: I've heard that, but it doesn't do that here 21:58 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EAA593.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:58 < valentin> smp: i have no .linphone* files in my home and they were not autocreated yet 22:01 -!- MadTux [~mike@master.hack-solutions.com] has left #rocklinux [] 22:06 < SMP> hmm, "stone network" is really broken 22:06 < SMP> ")syntax error: operand expected (error token is " 22:06 < SMP> "s included 22:08 < SMP> no manpages ... 22:09 < SMP> no documentation at all? 22:11 < rxr> manpage of what? 22:12 < SMP> rocknet 22:12 < rxr> it has at least in the Handbook 22:13 < SMP> stone leaves just loads of junk in /etc/network/config 22:13 < rxr> oughm - when I implemented it - it worked ... 22:14 < rxr> (for my use cases I tested ...) 22:15 < th_> cool - i thought the same today .oO(urgs - why is there no rocknet manpage); i resisted to think aloud cause i knew i would get the link for the handbook 22:15 < SMP> looks like the dialog output ends up in there 22:16 -!- k3t_ [k3t@p5480452C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:18 < SMP> what the hell ... 22:18 < SMP> | Set new value for tag 'ip' 22:19 < SMP> [ ip ] > 22:19 < SMP> (I enter 10.0.0.1/24) 22:19 < SMP> and it ends up in config without the 'ip' 22:21 < SMP> why can't i enter 'y' after: 22:21 < SMP> | Unconfigured interface eth0 detected. Do you want to create an 22:21 < SMP> | interface section? 22:24 < rxr> the time I wrote this it worked - if you could investigate it ... 22:25 -!- k3t__ [k3t@p54804799.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 22:26 < SMP> hmmm ... 22:34 < SMP> no way to set mtu or advmss for the defaultroute ... 22:34 < SMP> rocknet is so useful when 90% of the lines in /etc/rocknet/config are script lines ... 22:37 -!- rolla [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-237.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has left #rocklinux [] 22:39 -!- maisenhe [maisenhe@adsl-66-136-183-237.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:39 -!- hannes_ [~hannes@1Cust15.tnt3.muc2.deu.da.uu.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:39 -!- maisenhe is now known as rolla 22:39 < rolla> re 22:42 < rxr> SMP: in which interesting configuration do you need to tweak the mtu and advmss ? 22:47 -!- hannes_ [~hannes@1Cust15.tnt3.muc2.deu.da.uu.net] has quit ["leaving"] 22:47 < rxr> SMP: if it is a recent ROCK Net it passes all options in the gw line to ip - so you can add metric, and so on 22:47 [Users #rocklinux] 22:47 [ Aard ] [ dsoul] [ k3t_ ] [ mnemoc ] [ rxr ] [ th_ ] 22:47 [ blindy] [ esden] [ link_ ] [ netcrow ] [ SMP ] [ togg ] 22:47 [ BoS ] [ fake ] [ LowLander] [ netrunner] [ snyke ] [ valentin] 22:47 [ daja77] [ Freak] [ luckz ] [ nookie ] [ StefanG] 22:47 [ darix ] [ jsaw ] [ mistik1 ] [ rolla ] [ tfing ] 22:47 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 28 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 28 normal] 23:05 -!- praenti [~praenti@82.139.198.99] has joined #rocklinux 23:05 -!- praenti [~praenti@82.139.198.99] has quit [Client Quit] 23:07 -!- praenti [~praenti@mail.obster.org] has joined #rocklinux 23:07 < rxr> hi praenti 23:07 < praenti> hi 23:07 < valentin> hi praenti 23:08 < praenti> i'm only a few minutes here. only reactivated my irssi 23:08 < valentin> bye praenti ,) 23:08 < praenti> i need some sleep after last weekend... 23:08 < praenti> gn8 23:16 < SMP> rxr: being behind a tunnel that reduces the path-MTU 23:24 < rxr> SMP: you are at the gw tag? 23:24 < rxr> just add the needed iproute arguments - if ROCK Net on the box is recent all arguments are passed thru ... 23:27 < SMP> well, it is 'recent', but I don't see such code in modules/iproute2.sh 23:30 < rxr> oh - I special cased metric 23:30 < rxr> bad 23:31 * rxr adding this to the long TODO file 23:31 < rxr> du -csh TODO 23:31 < rxr> 45MB 23:31 < rxr> .oO 23:32 < rxr> oh - puh, has not been my todo, accidently grabbed the "leading Gnome to usability file" ... 23:33 < valentin> rxr : 45 MB ~ 1.000.000 todo items... 23:35 < rxr> valentin: do you think Gnome needs more fixes to become usable? 23:35 < rxr> oh - cool, I now have a gcc-3.4'ed x86 glibc-2.3.4-cvs 23:36 < valentin> rxr: i have not tried a recent version of gnome yet 23:37 < rxr> GNU C Library stable release version 2.3.3, by Roland McGrath et al. 23:37 < rxr> Copyright (C) 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. 23:37 < rxr> This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. 23:37 < rxr> There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A 23:37 < rxr> PARTICULAR PURPOSE. 23:37 < rxr> Compiled by GNU CC version 3.4.0. 23:37 < rxr> Compiled on a Linux 2.4.26-rock system on 2004-05-03. --- Log closed Tue May 04 00:00:17 2004