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--- Log opened Tue May 04 00:00:17 2004 00:09 < tfing> rxr: rock is not the first distro to have gcc 3.4 00:09 < tfing> gentoo has an ebuild and its in experimental in debian 00:10 < tfing> btw, there is a message in the gcc 3.4 ebuild about problems building binutils 00:10 < rxr> tfing: I wrote one of the first 00:11 < rxr> I have no binutils problems 00:11 < rxr> aside minors - I only had to fix a glibc problem ... 00:11 < rxr> tfing: my PowerPC gcc-3.4.0 build is already after xfree86 ... 00:11 < tfing> Since we are one of the first (if not the first) <- i was talking about the (...) 00:11 < tfing> rxr: ok, sweet 00:12 < rxr> do you think those brackets should be removed? 00:13 < tfing> that sound a bit too proudish, but that's just my opinion 00:20 < rxr> daja77: in submaster are glibc fixes - with thoes you can start a gcc34 build ... 00:27 -!- mistik1_ [rasta@ool-44c02046.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:36 < LowLander> !> No free loopback device found! 00:36 < LowLander> thats a error i get on FC1 building a router boot system 00:37 < rxr> oh - I think the scripts use DevFS names 00:37 < rxr> you might just change /dev/loop/? to /dev/loop? ... 00:37 < LowLander> in Build-Target ? 00:37 < rxr> I think they are in target/router/... 00:40 -!- mistik1 [mistik1@2001:618:400:0:0:0:44c0:2046] has quit [Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)] 00:42 < LowLander> hmm that /dev/loop/\$1 is al over the script dir 00:43 < LowLander> hmmm but the dev-nodes are made 00:44 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M329P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 00:44 < rxr> LowLander: or your kernel has no loop support? 00:45 < LowLander> ok found it 00:45 < LowLander> it is target/bootdisk/build_stage1.sh 00:47 < LowLander> hmmm Download -require seems not to download all the stuff needed 00:48 < rxr> LowLander: oh - yes - I remeber that there was some issues with target specific downloads 00:48 * rxr filling the personal TODO 00:48 < LowLander> hehe 00:49 < LowLander> i am just learning my way around 00:49 < LowLander> nothing to serious yet 00:49 < valentin> good night. 00:49 < rxr> n8 valentin 00:49 * rxr off into bed in some seconds too 00:49 < rxr> cu tomorrow valentin 00:49 < valentin> cu2 00:49 < LowLander> work day is just starting 00:50 < rxr> here it is 00:49 .... 00:50 < LowLander> here too ;-) 00:50 < rxr> oh - ah, ;-) 00:51 < LowLander> oh well i just started a Download -all 00:51 < rxr> oh 00:51 < rxr> you could have Downloaded just this single file ... 00:52 < LowLander> well when i want to play around with it , i probbaly will need most of it at some point 00:53 < daja77> re 00:53 < LowLander> hey daja 00:53 < rxr> hi daja77 00:53 < daja77> hi rxr & LowLander 00:53 * rxr off now 00:53 < rxr> cu 00:53 < LowLander> cya 00:54 < daja77> cu rxr 00:54 * daja77 fetching the patch 00:58 -!- link_ [~link_@adsl-212-101-21-193.solnet.ch] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 01:02 -!- nookie [~nookie@M490P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:10 -!- esden is now known as esden|zZz 01:14 -!- MadTux [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 01:26 -!- MadTux [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has left #rocklinux ["Leaving"] 01:32 < LowLander> -> Extracting isolinux boot loader. 01:32 < LowLander> tar (child): /home/erwin/l4l/rock-src-2.0.0/download/bootdisk/syslinux-2.02.tar.bz2: Cannot open: No such file or directory 01:32 < LowLander> but the file in that dir is syslinux-2.08.tar.bz2 01:42 < LowLander> ok i give uo for tonigth 01:44 < daja77> you should run scripts/Download -cfg bootdisk -required before 01:44 < daja77> n8 01:57 < LowLander> been there done that 01:57 < LowLander> i think :-) 02:17 -!- esden|zZz is now known as esden 02:17 < esden> re hi all 03:12 < SMP> damnit, something's grabbing the Windows key for the K-Menu in KDE 3.2, so I can't use it it my own shortcuts anymore 03:12 < SMP> stupid crap 03:25 -!- daja77 [[RbmiRJh0E@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:48 -!- daja77 [[kVtPRour2@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de] has joined #rocklinux 03:54 < esden> hmm ... where ist that fancy flist search cgi from blindcoder ... 04:04 -!- plasma- [~foo@206.63.200.33] has joined #rocklinux 04:07 < mnemoc> re 04:07 < mnemoc> esden: it's called 'sonar' :) 04:15 < esden> and where is it? 04:15 * esden just found out that the rocket script I wanted to test in my shiny new rocklinux installation is containing nothing more then a help output 04:16 < mnemoc> https://scavenger.homeip.net/ROCK/sonar/search.pl 04:16 * esden tryed some options ... and wondered why it is not working 04:16 < mnemoc> :) 04:16 < esden> Such things are _NOT_ funny! 04:16 < esden> ;) 04:16 < esden> thanks mnemoc 04:16 < mnemoc> yes they are :) 04:18 < esden> *gnarf* 04:18 < esden> and another thing ... I have no idea where I get a line for rockplug *.usermap file 04:19 < esden> and it is nowhere documented ... now I know how people feel that are new to rocklinux 04:19 < esden> they CAN not understand rock ... because nothing is really documented ;) 04:20 < esden> in rene book are only the very basics and nothing more 04:20 < esden> but really the _VERY_ basics that are near to intuitive 04:23 < esden> ahhh here it is .. the pcimap 04:23 < esden> it is in /lib/modules/<kernelversion>/modules.pcimap 04:24 < esden> nice to know ... but someone could write it in that damn *.usermap header !!! *argl* 04:27 < esden> ok ... brb 04:31 -!- cap [~cap@p213.54.67.33.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #rocklinux 04:31 < mnemoc> great to hear you volunterly offer yourself to improve ROCK's documention! :) 04:32 -!- cap [~cap@p213.54.67.33.tisdip.tiscali.de] has left #rocklinux [] 04:44 < esden> re hi 04:44 < esden> mnemoc: NO 04:45 -!- rhalff [~rhalff@d152093.upc-d.chello.nl] has joined #rocklinux 04:45 < mnemoc> NO? not only improve? you will write a whole guide???!! wow... that's amazing 04:46 < esden> mnemoc: you are really good in reinterpreting what I say ... 04:46 < esden> you are talented ;) 04:46 -!- MadTux [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 04:46 < esden> hi mnemoc 04:46 < MadTux> ping mnemoc 04:46 < esden> argl 04:46 < esden> MadTux: 04:46 < MadTux> re btw 04:46 < mnemoc> :p 04:46 < MadTux> hi esdy 04:46 < mnemoc> hi MadTux 04:46 < MadTux> .oO( wow mnemoc is getting more and more popular with the time) 04:46 < MadTux> Ale how are u ? 04:47 < esden> ahh that is nice ... now I finally have 1280x1024 resolution in the console 04:47 < esden> nearly automatically set by rockplug 04:47 < mnemoc> MadTux: stressed as usual, and you? 04:47 < esden> thank god I am so bright and found by myself how to do it ;) 04:48 < mnemoc> esden: that's not a good feature if your monitor doesn't support it :\ 04:48 < esden> mnemoc: you want to say that your monitor is not supporting that? ;) 04:49 < mnemoc> i have monitor which don't support 800x600 .... i not, mine only support 1280x768 :) 04:49 < MadTux> mnemoc, u should have asked google.. 04:50 < MadTux> posers. 04:50 < esden> by the way it would be nice to have conditional code ... if ( framebuffer_present ) { set_resolution blabla } in the rockplug scripts ... hmm 04:50 < MadTux> mnemoc, query? 04:50 < mnemoc> ok :) 04:53 < mnemoc> can't be set as an append on lilo? 04:54 < MadTux> yes it can :) 04:56 < mnemoc> even if it's a module? 04:56 < MadTux> not sure.. 04:58 < esden> ok ... I should go to bed ... tomorrow still have to write this fancy document ... SIGH 04:59 < esden> good night everyone 04:59 -!- esden is now known as esden|zZz 05:01 < mnemoc> gn8 esden 05:01 < MadTux> gute nacht esdy 05:01 < MadTux> Gott segne dich mein freund 05:27 -!- darix [darix@monsters.rsn.uni-rostock.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 05:30 -!- darix [darix@monsters.rsn.uni-rostock.de] has joined #rocklinux 06:34 -!- mistik1_ is now known as mistik1 07:02 * SMP back on 2.0.0-rc1 w/ KDE 3.1 - KDE 3.2 unusable 07:03 < MadTux> 0_o 07:03 < SMP> first it doesn't map the Windows key correctly, and then even grabs the key and opens the K-Menu when one presses it 07:04 < MadTux> mm.. sux 07:04 < SMP> so I can't use (all!) my keyboard shortcuts which involve it 07:05 < SMP> then konsole doesn't pass Ctrl-Shift-R and I can't use mark-thread-read in mutt 07:07 < SMP> and I run my konsole windows at size 100x40 - when I open the hidden kicker on the top of the screen it shrinks to 100x36 (why?!) and when I close the kicker again, it grows to 100x44. argh! 07:15 -!- plasma- [~foo@206.63.200.33] has quit ["I'd rather be lucky than good"] 07:40 < MadTux> good night. 07:40 -!- MadTux [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has left #rocklinux ["Leaving"] 07:49 < blindy> moin 07:57 < BoS> moin 08:44 -!- nookie [~nookie@M297P008.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 08:52 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M329P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 09:32 -!- lowy [erwin@pD9EBFC47.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:40 -!- LowLander [erwin@p54802D64.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 09:58 -!- rhalff [~rhalff@d152093.upc-d.chello.nl] has left #rocklinux ["Leaving"] 10:28 -!- owl [~owl@D715e.d.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 10:28 < owl> moin 10:31 < dsoul> hi owl 10:36 < owl> hi dsoul 10:37 < blindy> *cry* 10:38 * blindy just became official SuSE contact person for my company *cry* 10:39 < StefanG> lol :) 10:40 < BoS> and who ist the official rocklinux contact person for your copany? 10:40 < blindy> my co-workers installed Gentoo on our servers >_< 10:40 < blindy> I'll kill them next time I see them 10:40 < owl> rofl 10:41 < owl> hi blindy 10:41 < BoS> lol 10:42 -!- togg [~togg@reverse-213-146-118-69.dialin.kamp-dsl.de] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:45 -!- blindcod1r [~blindcode@pD958F1F2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:46 -!- blindy [~blindcode@pD9E4FEA1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 10:46 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindy 10:49 < rxr> re 10:50 < BoS> hi rxr 10:53 < rxr> hi BoS 10:53 < daja77> hi rxr 10:53 < rxr> hi daja77 10:54 < daja77> guess the gcc-3.4 build is not that successfull 10:54 < daja77> 1191 builds total, 248 completed fine, 204 with errors. 10:55 < rxr> oh - why is that? 10:56 < daja77> [1] 3 base/linux24 [2] 977 base/gcc2 10:56 < daja77> [2] 977 base/gcc3 [3] 975 base/dietlibc 10:56 < daja77> [3] 968 base/ncurses [3] 967 base/gettext 10:56 < daja77> [3] 1 misc/zsh [3] 947 base/texinfo 10:56 < daja77> [3] 1 base/less [3] 131 base/groff 10:56 < daja77> [3] 0 base/nvi [3] 65 base/libtool 10:56 < daja77> [3] 0 tsa/zebra [3] 0 base/prelink 10:56 < daja77> [3] 5 base/shadow [3] 944 base/util-linux 10:56 < daja77> [3] 0 base/uml_utilities [3] 156 base/procps 10:56 < daja77> [3] 122 base/psmisc [3] 4 base/modutils 10:56 < daja77> [3] 1 base/parted [5] 939 base/linux24-src 10:56 < daja77> [5] 2 base/linux24 [5] 1 base/linux26 10:57 < rxr> you did not smap'ed 2004050400082718286 ? 10:57 < daja77> i did 10:58 < rxr> and there are hm- take a look and review why those do fail - I have only very few errors on PowerPC - and that many more on x86 ... 11:00 -!- DirtyGamer [~Miranda@193.174.21.19] has joined #rocklinux 11:00 < daja77> should i upload the err files for you? 11:00 -!- DirtyGamer [~Miranda@193.174.21.19] has left #rocklinux [] 11:02 < rxr> yes, would be nice 11:04 < daja77> htp://lospalmos.homelinux.net/rock-gcc34-errs/ 11:05 < netrunner> daja77: have you read some? are they all compiler related? 11:06 < daja77> no i guess most of them are related to non built packages 11:07 < daja77> i saw some were depending on glib for example 11:07 < daja77> which failed 11:07 < rxr> Steve Ballmer: "Microsoft ist erwachsen geworden" 11:07 < rxr> ^- *lol* 11:07 < daja77> *rofl* not really 11:08 -!- owl [~owl@D715e.d.pppool.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:09 < netrunner> daja77: you could try with "don't build with broken deps" 11:09 < daja77> hm? 11:12 < netrunner> daja77: reduces the errs that fail because a dependency did already fail. 11:15 < rxr> daja - this 11:15 < rxr> it just because you selected / built boehm-gc from the mnemoc repository - which tries to patch gcc .... 11:16 < rxr> many others just fail because you have no c++ compiler due to the not applying boehm-gc patch 11:16 < rxr> just disable this package ... 11:17 < daja77> uhm can't remember having this enables >_< 11:20 < netrunner> hm, maybe the gcc3.4 has fixed the problem I had with my epia build ... 11:27 -!- owl [~owl@D70a2.d.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 11:28 < owl> YEAH!!! I'M ALLOWED TO FLY *JUMP ARROUND* 11:30 < rxr> hm? 11:31 < owl> i'm "krankgeschrieben" since 29.01.04... and i get "krankengeld" - so i had to ask my "krankenkasse" if i'm allow to fly to my booked holidays... and the KK had to contact my doctor and the mdk (medizischer dienst der krankenkassen) if it's ok... 11:32 < owl> and today i got the "ok" 11:33 < daja77> ok next try :) 11:33 < owl> hm? 11:34 < daja77> i am talking about my build 11:34 -!- tfing_ [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-1-76.w193-253.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 11:34 < rxr> owl: have fun! 11:34 < daja77> yep hf 11:35 < owl> rxr, daja77: thx :) we will have :) cause it's the same location where i was last year and several times before ;) 11:36 < rxr> oh - maybe I ask where? 11:38 < owl> yeah. mallorca. ca'n picafort. (hotel concord) 11:38 < owl> https://www.hotelesferrer.com/ 11:39 -!- BoS [~root@dialin-212-144-072-149.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 11:40 -!- tfing [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-2-98.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 11:40 -!- tfing_ is now known as tfing 11:42 -!- waterloo [~root@dialin-212-144-019-236.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:45 -!- waterloo is now known as BoS_ 11:50 -!- BoS_ [~root@dialin-212-144-019-236.arcor-ip.net] has left #rocklinux [] 11:50 -!- BoS_ [~root@dialin-212-144-019-236.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:53 < valentin> moin 11:57 -!- tfing_ [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-3-183.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 11:59 < owl> hi valentin 12:00 -!- Ankur [~Ankur@61.16.237.64] has joined #rocklinux 12:01 -!- tfing [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-1-76.w193-253.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:01 -!- tfing_ is now known as tfing 12:09 < tfing> mnemoc: you tend to send mail twice to rock mls 12:16 -!- Ankur [~Ankur@61.16.237.64] has quit [Client Quit] 12:24 < daja77> 1-linux24 now fails with boehm-gc disabled :\ 12:24 < rxr> yes - linux24 needs some more fixes - but much more of the rest will compile 12:25 < rxr> and I'll fix linux24 further in some minutes, too 12:26 < daja77> ah k. 12:32 -!- alanjwylie [frog@frogadsl-gw.adsl.legend.co.uk] has joined #rocklinux 12:50 < netrunner> argl grumpf stupid new libpcap 12:56 -!- esden|zZz is now known as esden 12:58 < owl> hi esden ! 12:59 < esden> hello everyone 12:59 < esden> hi owl 13:01 < rxr> hi esden 13:01 < esden> hi rxr 13:01 < rxr> wow - you show up quite often nowadays! 13:09 < esden> rxr: yes ... because I reinstalled my box at home 13:09 < esden> ;) 13:09 < esden> ahh ... very well .... rxr ... you need bashing ;) 13:10 < esden> please write in the headers of rockplug *.usermap files that you can find the pcimap lines in /lib/modules/<kernelver>/kernel.pcimap 13:10 < esden> please ;) 13:11 < owl> <- off for theraphy... bye 13:11 < esden> cu owl 13:11 < valentin> cu 13:12 * esden :Q 13:16 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8D0B2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:20 -!- owl [~owl@D70a2.d.pppool.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 13:27 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux.net/typo3/index.php?id=98&backPID=2&tt_news=44 13:28 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8CADF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:31 < tfing> hmm, when upgrading from gnome24 to gnome26, pkgconfig uses the .pc files from gnome24 13:33 < esden> re 13:41 < rxr> tfing: I have not reviewd update patthes - it might be better to uninstall gnome24 before .. 13:43 * SMP ponders 'upgrading' KDE 3.1 to Gnome 2.6 13:43 < rxr> or use the same prefix /opt/gnome24 13:43 < rxr> SMP: ? 13:43 < rxr> ^- for gnome-2.6, too 13:43 < SMP> KDE 3.2 is unusable 13:44 < SMP> by the way, do keyboard layouts work for you in KDE 3.2? 13:44 < rxr> oehm - why do you think so? 13:45 < SMP> rxr: do you have a backlog until 7 a.m.? ;) 13:45 < tfing> i uninstall first now, it saves some disk space 13:48 < rxr> hm 13:48 < rxr> SMP: I have no Windows key here ... 13:52 < SMP> the Windows key has nothing to do with keyboard layouts ... 14:00 < rxr> what does KDE do to your keyboard layouts then? 14:00 < SMP> nothing, that's the problem 14:01 < SMP> the keyboard layouts control-center module does not show any keyboard layouts that I could enable 14:02 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8C98B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:09 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8D0B2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:13 < netrunner> yes. fixed kismet. 14:14 -!- togg [~togg@reverse-213-146-118-69.dialin.kamp-dsl.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:21 < netrunner> rxr: subversion-static failed in my recent desktop build: configure: error: can only configure for one host and one target at a time 14:22 < netrunner> before it had configure: warning: CC=gcc-3: invalid host type 14:22 < netrunner> configure: warning: build_alias=i686-unknown-linux-gnu: invalid host type 14:22 < tfing> gtkam fixed 15:00 < daja77> hm interessting netrunner's suggestion stops the build at 51 packages die failing linux24 15:03 < rolla> re 15:03 < daja77> Sending package/x86/lilo/lilo.conf 15:03 < daja77> Sending package/x86/lilo/lilo.desc 15:03 < daja77> Transmitting file data ..../usr/bin/smap: line 218: 15424 Abgebrochen (core dumped) svn commit --editor-cmd "$0 ed" $commit_list 15:03 < daja77> O_o 15:03 < daja77> hi rolla 15:04 < rolla> hallo 15:06 < fake> SMP: setxkbmap 15:09 < SMP> the fact that I could use another tool does not excuse for the brokenness of the one tool 15:09 < daja77> tried kde 3.2.2 yet? 15:09 < SMP> besides, setxkbmap doesn't give me a nice flag to click on in the kicker ;-P 15:11 < SMP> daja77: 3.2.2 only 15:11 < daja77> ic :( 15:12 < SMP> especially the handling of the Windows key is ridiculous - as if the damn key was good for nothing than opening the K-menu ... 15:15 -!- clifford [~clifford@213-229-1-138.sdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #rocklinux 15:16 < clifford> SMP: u here? 15:21 < rxr> hm - my 2.5 Ghz Athlon is still to slow to build linux kernels in useful times... 15:21 < daja77> rxr: is your linux24 in submaster? 15:25 < SMP> clifford: yup 15:26 < daja77> linux24 patch even? 15:26 < rxr> daja77: one second 15:26 < daja77> k. 15:26 < rxr> daja77: it just finished the make modules 15:27 < daja77> <- installing mine on rh8 15:27 < jsaw> re 15:30 < rxr> hi jsaw 15:30 < daja77> hi jsaw 15:30 < jsaw> hi rxr, daja77 15:30 < rxr> daja77: try to change the linux24 package to use the patch 15:30 < rxr> gcc340-fixes-v2.4.26.patch 15:30 < rxr> oh - mom 15:30 < rxr> gcc340-fixes-v2.4.26-try2.patch 15:30 < rxr> I meant 15:31 < rxr> I rebuild the kernel before I sumit the change 15:32 < daja77> where to get this patch? 15:33 < rxr> same URL 15:33 < rxr> ok x86 gcc-3.4: 15:33 < rxr> == 05/04/04 15:32:27 =[5]=> Finished building package qt. 15:33 < daja77> O_o greping for url 15:35 < rxr> hm? 15:35 < daja77> what url you are talking about, svn 2.0 branch? 15:35 < rxr> [D] 0 gcc340-fixes-v2.4.26-try2.patch https://dl.rocklinux-consulting.de/oss/linu 15:35 < rxr> x24/ 15:36 < rxr> hm - urcvt sucks up when cut'n pasting a long lines with auto \n ... 15:36 < daja77> repared it manually doesn't matter 15:36 < daja77> so i try just the try2 patch 15:44 < rxr> urxvt even 15:44 < daja77> the package you built for that jerk? 15:45 < rxr> https://www.theprodukkt.com/ 15:46 < rxr> too bad it is a .exe 15:54 < lowy> Finished downloading 36621 bytes in 25.490 seconds (1436.681 bytes/sec). 15:54 < lowy> cksum-test (bzip2): download/lvp/lvp/lvp_0.3.2.tar.bz2 15:54 < lowy> Cksum ERROR: download/lvp/lvp/lvp_0.3.2.tar.bz2.cksum-err (1341857772) 15:54 < lowy> thats after Downloading the svn-trunk version 15:55 < lowy> and trying the live CD setup 15:55 < daja77> svn trunk is outdated 15:55 -!- lowy is now known as LowLander 15:55 < rxr> does this happen with many files - or just with this file 15:55 < LowLander> just that file 15:55 < rxr> hm - blindy? Here is a checksum error with your files ... 15:56 < LowLander> daja so what is not "outdated" ? 15:56 < rxr> LowLander: daja77 just wants to rumour about the submaster queue 15:56 < rxr> for your needs trunk is fine 15:56 < LowLander> well when it is broken it isn't :-) 15:57 < rxr> LowLander: it is just one checksum 15:57 < daja77> ;) 15:57 < rxr> I guess removing the file and redownloading does give the same result ? 15:57 < rxr> result even 15:57 -!- MadTux [~mike@master.hack-solutions.com] has joined #rocklinux 15:57 < MadTux> hi. 15:57 < rxr> if yet just rename the file to not have the .chksum-err extension 15:57 < rxr> and try building it 15:57 < rxr> in any case blindy (aka blindcoder) should verify his files ... 15:58 * daja77 cursing his inet connection at work 15:59 < MadTux> happy cursing.. 15:59 < daja77> hey MadTux 15:59 < MadTux> hi. :) 16:00 < LowLander> rxr ok renamed the file 16:01 < LowLander> now wait for the build to "hit" it 16:02 < daja77> scripts/Build-Target -cfg $id -job $stage-$package 16:17 < rxr> daja77: -try2 is not sufficient 16:17 < rxr> I seem to forgot to diff a file ... 16:17 < rxr> -try3 in some secs 16:21 < mnemoc> moin 16:23 < MadTux> mnemoc: hi! 16:23 < MadTux> mnemoc: u have mail. 16:23 < mnemoc> oh 16:23 < mnemoc> hi MadTux 16:24 < mnemoc> tfing: i do? i'll take a look into the archive 16:26 < rxr> mnemoc: hi 16:28 < mnemoc> hi rxr 16:28 < tfing> hi mnemoc 16:28 < mnemoc> hi tfing 16:33 -!- MadTux [~mike@master.hack-solutions.com] has quit ["leaving"] 16:44 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M260P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 16:47 < mnemoc> tfing: found!, reply all of my webmail (squirrel) adds the TO, to CC too :) 16:48 < tfing> that was the result indeed ;) 16:49 < mnemoc> that's a triple-bug :) webmail/user/mailing list :) 16:49 < tfing> lol 17:02 -!- nookie [~nookie@M297P008.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:04 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@pD958F1F2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:04 -!- blindy [~blindcode@pD958F1F2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 17:04 < daja77> linux24 still fail but another error 17:04 -!- blindcoder is now known as blindy 17:05 < mnemoc> gcc34? 17:05 < rxr> daja77: with -try3 ? 17:05 < mnemoc> (moin daja77) 17:06 < daja77> try2 :( 17:06 < daja77> hi mnemoc 17:08 < mnemoc> what's that -try thing? 17:08 < mnemoc> SMP,clifford: have you decided something about crontab? 17:09 < SMP> I haven't followed this issue 17:10 < mnemoc> :( 17:10 < clifford> mnemoc: I have discussed with rxr who should review it.. 17:10 < clifford> I'm not sure if it is a bit overkill.. 17:12 < mnemoc> can you (our security gurus ;) take a look into the issue and propose something? crontab -e doesn't work since long time ago (and _I_ kill it with an update i did) 17:12 < mnemoc> and because i 'broke' it i feel very responsable about it :( 17:13 < tfing> my patch just follows the debian way 17:14 < clifford> oh - i see. I thought that was just an additional security enhancement.. ;-) 17:14 < mnemoc> :p 17:14 < blindy> hi 17:15 < blindy> rxr: I'll check that 17:20 < blindy> hmm 17:20 < blindy> really strange... 17:21 < blindy> checking file on server 17:23 < clifford> mnemoc: is the username 'crontab' somehow proposed or standard? 17:24 < tfing> it's a group, not a user 17:27 < clifford> yes - is the GROUPname 'crontab' somehow proposed or standard? ;-) 17:27 < blindy> rxr: ok, sorry. screwed that one up. patch in SM 17:28 < mnemoc> no idea, but looks good :) tfing? 17:28 < tfing> just took the debian one 17:33 < clifford> scheduled for the next test build (so it will be applied if it doesn't melt my testhost ;-) 17:33 < mnemoc> :) 17:34 < tfing> tsss 17:49 < tfing> finished sm-wip-push'ing 17:50 * mnemoc have to learn about sm's wip-facility 17:51 < tfing> mnemoc: just don't forget to mkdir rock.sm/WIP and it should be fine 17:51 < mnemoc> thanks for the tip 17:56 -!- BoS_ is now known as BoS^awk 17:58 -!- BoS^awk is now known as BoS^afk 18:10 < tfing> sm create is missing a progress bar :) 18:17 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8CFC4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:19 < tfing> clifford: "log" should be passed as-is to svn too imo 18:20 < tfing> hmm, not as-is in fact, but with the correct file:/// 18:20 < tfing> more complicated than i thought 18:21 < netrunne1> hm, imho "sm log" should give the local sm log, while svn log should give the real log. but as this is not possible, it should at least be the other way round. 18:34 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8C98B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:37 -!- MadTux [~mike@master.hack-solutions.com] has joined #rocklinux 18:38 < mnemoc> MadTuxie!! 18:38 < MadTux> hello mnemoc-chan 18:39 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 18:40 < MadTux> nety! 18:40 < netrunner> Maddy! 18:40 < MadTux> :) 18:40 < netrunner> hi mnemocy 18:41 < mnemoc> hi netty 18:55 -!- MadTux [~mike@master.hack-solutions.com] has quit ["leaving"] 19:00 < mnemoc> clifford: can the sm change be done by hand? i don't want to loose logs, and everything 19:04 < clifford> well - basically yes: 19:05 < clifford> hmm.. 19:06 < clifford> but I can't tell an easy way to do it because MASTER/ and WORK/ _should_ be dirived from each other. 19:08 < tfing> clifford: what is the WORK directory you talked about in the mail ? i got no such dir in my rock.sm 19:09 < mnemoc> sm migrate :) -> svn switch blah blah blah ? ;) 19:09 < clifford> it's a directory _inside_ the subversion filesystem. 19:10 < mnemoc> oh 19:10 < tfing> ok 19:10 < mnemoc> this will hurt 19:10 < SMP> svn ls file://path/rock.sm/SVN 19:12 < mnemoc> uhm? 19:12 < SMP> see MASTER/ there ;-) 19:12 < mnemoc> no :) 19:13 < SMP> use three slashes after the colon 19:13 < mnemoc> # svn ls file:///usr/src/rock/rock-2.0.sm/SVN 19:13 < mnemoc> Documentation/ 19:13 < mnemoc> architecture/ 19:13 < mnemoc> misc/ 19:13 < mnemoc> package/ 19:13 < mnemoc> scripts/ 19:13 < mnemoc> target/ 19:14 < SMP> that would be an old repo 19:15 < mnemoc> submaster-73 19:15 < mnemoc> i'll not update it until i finish the build i have to install tomorrow :) 19:16 < rxr> mnemoc: yes - this is a _good_ plan .... 19:28 < mnemoc> i have two trees with master=rl-c.de (2.0 and trunk), and bellow them a three levels tree of trees, this changes do hurt a lot 19:34 < rxr> this kernel inject extra version stuff totally scres my builds 19:35 < mnemoc> what failed? 19:35 < rxr> this version creation 19:36 < mnemoc> i have used it for almost a year now 19:36 * rxr still analyzing - otherwise I would not speak up and a patch would already be in sumbater 19:38 < mnemoc> can i have a svn tree inside other svn tree ? 19:38 < mnemoc> e.g. a target 19:43 < rxr> yes 19:44 < rxr> I think you want an svn:externals 19:44 < rxr> see the Subversino handbook 19:44 < rxr> mnemoc: why the hell do you regrab the version from include/linux/version.h ???? 19:45 < mnemoc> rsbac alters extraversion in a different Makefile 19:45 < mnemoc> which is only reflected in version.h 19:45 < rxr> why the hell do they do this? 19:46 < mnemoc> i got shocked too 19:46 < daja77> re 19:47 < mnemoc> re daja77 19:48 < daja77> thx mnemoc 19:53 < rxr> - mv Makefile.new Makefile 19:53 < rxr> + sed -i -e "s,^\([ \t]*EXTRAVERSION[ \t]*\)=.*,\1= ${lx_extraversion},g" Makefile 19:53 < rxr> 19:53 < rxr> # update version.h 19:53 < rxr> - eval $MAKE include/linux/version.h 19:53 < rxr> + eval $MAKE include/linux/version.h | grep -q "is up to date" && rerun=1 19:53 < rxr> + if [ "$rerun" ] ; then 19:53 < rxr> + echo "WARNING: Your system's timer resolution is too low ..." 19:53 < rxr> + touch Makefile ; sleep 1 19:53 < rxr> + eval $MAKE include/linux/version.h 19:53 < rxr> + fi 19:54 < LowLander> *sigh* ROCK is not really a download and go system ;-) 19:54 < rxr> LowLander: it is not ? 19:54 < LowLander> nope 19:54 < rxr> why not ? 19:54 < LowLander> -I is an illegal tar option 19:54 < LowLander> -j 19:54 < rxr> .oO 19:55 < LowLander> makes it a bit better but still things go wrong 19:55 < LowLander> ./scripts/Build-Target: line 33: cd: /home/erwin/l4l/trunk/build/system-2.1.0-DEV-x86-lvp/lvp_0.4.0_generic/livesystem: No such file or directory 19:55 < LowLander> cp: cannot stat `../root/boot/vmlinuz': No such file or directory 19:55 < daja77> lvp is just one target ... 19:55 < LowLander> but the one i am fighting with :-) 19:56 < daja77> you want to create video dvds? 19:56 < mnemoc> rxr: is up to date? 19:56 < LowLander> just picked a random one 19:57 < LowLander> it downloaded, and builded everything ok 19:57 < LowLander> ls 19:57 < mnemoc> LowLander: where did you found the -j option? 19:57 < LowLander> oops 19:57 < rxr> the LVP target might not match the other overal quality assurance ... 19:57 < LowLander> target/lvp/build.sh 19:58 < rxr> LowLander: I fix this _now_ 19:58 < LowLander> the -I option is not supported by the tar in FC1 19:58 < LowLander> dunno if the -j is supported in the older tars though 19:58 < rxr> LowLander: yes it is 19:59 < rxr> we prefer -j in ROCK since that was what got invented for it in the pased before each gib dist did s.th. different 19:59 < rxr> but in ROCK build scripts we use 19:59 < rxr> taropt="--use-compress-program=bzip2 19:59 < daja77> O_o the fedora guys do not patch -j in anymore, strange .. 19:59 < rxr> for compatibility 19:59 < rxr> daja77: RedHat always hat -I ... 19:59 < LowLander> cp: cannot stat `../root/boot/vmlinuz': No such file or directory 19:59 < daja77> yep that's what puzzles me 19:59 < LowLander> that seems wrong 19:59 < rxr> erhm - other way round 20:00 < blindy> the currentl lvp target is not up to date with the ROCK trunk 20:00 * rxr confused 20:00 < rxr> by multi tasking ... 20:00 < blindy> I'm working on that right now 20:00 < LowLander> the file is in build/system-2.1.0-DEV-x86-lvp/boot/ 20:00 < rxr> blindy: please send updates to submaster more regularly 20:00 < rxr> blindy: and either use taropts - or if it is not available at that place use: 20:00 < rxr> taropt="--use-compress-program=bzip2" 20:00 < rxr> and use this ... 20:00 < blindy> rxr: as soon as the current test-build finishes 20:01 < blindy> rxr: hmm... thought I did so... will check 20:02 < LowLander> dinner time , bbl 20:06 < mnemoc> rxr: can you explain the patch you pasted? 20:07 < blindy> rxr: patch committed, should work, build currently in progress. 20:08 < blindy> rxr: differences to last successful test build were only some string typos, so it should be ok 20:08 < blindy> and the s/xfI/xf --use-compress-program=/g of course 20:08 < blindy> =bzip2 obviously 20:10 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EA99CD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:10 < mnemoc> "the LVP target might not match the other overal quality assurance" that have had hurt :) 20:10 < mnemoc> hi tcr 20:11 < blindy> mnemoc: well, as a matter of fact, it was correct, so I didn't really take any offense on that 20:11 < mnemoc> :) 20:11 < blindy> mnemoc: since it didn't work in trunk 20:12 < tcr> moin all 20:12 < tcr> moin mnemoc 20:12 < rxr> moin tcr 20:17 < LowLander> /home/erwin/l4l/trunk/build/system-2.1.0-DEV-x86-lvp/pkgs/00-dirtree.tar.bz2 20:17 < LowLander> shouldn't that be /home/erwin/l4l/trunk/build/system-2.1.0-DEV-x86-lvp/ROCK/pkgs/ 20:17 < blindy> jepp, it should 20:18 < blindy> LowLander: that changed some time ago and I haven't submitted an update to LVP yet 20:18 < LowLander> when will you ? :-) 20:18 < blindy> LowLander: for more information, see: https://lvp.crash-override.net/ 20:18 < blindy> LowLander: just did, currently pending inclusion 20:18 < tcr> moin rxr 20:19 < LowLander> blindy, did that fix the checksum error on the lvp source file too ? 20:19 < blindy> LowLander: yes 20:19 < blindy> LowLander: must have screwed that one up somewhere... 20:21 < LowLander> shit happens :-) 20:22 < LowLander> ls 20:23 < rxr> mnemoc: next submaster patch is for you 20:23 < rxr> 2004050420234502392 it is 20:27 < mnemoc> oh, now i understood :) 20:27 < tcr> https://comic.escomposlinux.org/ecol-153-e.png 20:30 < mnemoc> does eval "" | grep -q && rerun=1 really assign the var when grep said so, or eval? 20:31 < mnemoc> uhm... late... bbl 20:32 < tcr> mnemoc, return code of the last command is returned in some piped expression 20:32 < SMP> "A list is a sequence of one or more pipelines separated by one of the operators ;, &, &&, or ||, and optionally terminated by one of ;, &, or <newline>." 20:34 < rxr> mnemoc: I tested it ... 20:37 < tcr> SMP: I can't parse that 20:39 < SMP> try harder 20:39 < SMP> it's from bash.1 20:40 < tcr> I know, but I don't know where I should relate the participles to 20:41 < tcr> My problem is with the part after the comma 20:41 < SMP> which comma? ;) 20:41 < tcr> `terminated' must be related to the `list' (or `sequence') and not the `pipelines' like `seperated' 20:42 < tcr> As otherwise seems just plain wrong 20:42 < SMP> "A list is a sequence of one or more pipelines and optionally terminated by ..." 20:42 < daja77> nice linux24 built 20:42 < SMP> this is the basic sentence 20:42 < SMP> eh, scratch the "and" 20:43 < tcr> Eh? I'd rather say it must be there 20:43 < tcr> (that and) 20:43 < SMP> no. "A list is a sequence of one or more pipelines, optionally terminated by ..." 20:44 < SMP> "Eine Liste ist eine Folge von pipelines, optional beendet durch ..." 20:44 < tcr> Well, I don't know much about english interpunctation, but I think this *could* be ambigious, too 20:44 < tcr> In German it's ambigious, too 20:44 < SMP> it's not ambiguous semantically 20:45 < tcr> It is 20:45 < SMP> it's even more abiguous in German because there would not be a comma in front of our 'und' 20:45 < tcr> It could be a enumeration or an apposition 20:46 < tcr> It depends on how you put the emphasis during reading 20:46 < tcr> brb 20:48 < tcr> Back. I should add that the later (apposition) would be bad writing style, but nevermind it confused me nontheless 20:50 < LowLander> hmm the EU and their software patents really start to worry me (https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/47112) 20:52 < LowLander> just hope the next Parlament will kick it out again :-/ else i can better move to the US where the patent system is less bad :-/ 20:53 < blindy> LowLander: is it really? 20:53 < SMP> can't escape the stranglehold of WIPO on the long run ... 20:54 < daja77> i should have studied sth else ... 20:54 < LowLander> blindy, when they push the new version ,yes 20:54 < SMP> daja77: patent law? 20:54 < blindy> LowLander: d'oh 20:54 < daja77> yeah 20:54 < LowLander> cause here in the UE we just start to make a new system based on the American system , where in the US they slowly start to relize things went wrong 20:55 < tcr> daja77, Heh. You could still have become a director of the FSF ;) 20:55 < daja77> what for, when free sw is illegal 20:56 < daja77> i should have focused on organizing parties with blackjack and hookers ... 20:56 < daja77> >_< 20:57 < blindy> yeah, much less trouble with laws there 20:57 < daja77> yep 20:57 < LowLander> so when the EU and the US suck with respect to patents 20:58 < LowLander> whats next 20:58 < daja77> we all move over to mnemoc 20:58 < blindy> heh, good idea 20:58 < LowLander> austrilia already gave in to the US too, AFAIK 20:58 < daja77> south americans seems to be more clever on this point 20:58 < LowLander> hmmm with the trade deals they have with the US, that won't last long 20:59 < LowLander> WTO will make it as bad everywhere 21:00 < LowLander> time for a new revolution (hello mr. FBI that monitors this convo) 21:00 * tcr watching Frontal21 21:00 < LowLander> oh wait it is mr. DHS now 21:05 < tfing> hmm, seems the new gnome-vfs does not look for the magic file where rock installs it 21:16 < rxr> hm - that is not good 21:17 < tfing> i don't know if it is gnome-vfs or what 21:17 < tfing> but gthumb does not see my images ... 21:18 < tfing> a directory full of jpg's, no images it says 21:18 -!- rugek [~rugek@p3EE0E2B0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:25 -!- owl [~owl@D00c6.d.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:25 < owl> hi 21:25 < rugek> hi owl 21:26 < owl> hi rugek 21:26 < blindy> moin owly 21:26 < tfing> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128174 <- this is my bug 21:27 < tfing> https://freedesktop.org/Software/shared-mime-info <- seems like this should be packaged 21:27 < owl> hi blindy 21:30 < tfing> ok, that works better now 21:31 < tfing> rxr: should i put it in the gnome2/ repository ? or in mathieu/ ? 21:31 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EA99CD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:36 < tfing> hmm, it concerns all the desktops 21:43 < SMP> x11/ 21:44 < tfing> oh yep, this seems the right place, thx 21:44 -!- rugek [~rugek@p3EE0E2B0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["leaving"] 21:54 < owl> <- leaving (i want a flatrate *cry*) 21:54 < owl> bye 21:54 -!- owl [~owl@D00c6.d.pppool.de] has quit ["saving money"] 22:16 -!- k3t__ [k3t@p54804CD1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:22 < mnemoc> re 22:22 < mnemoc> tfing,rxr :) 22:23 < tfing> re mnemoc 22:23 -!- k3t_ [k3t@p5480452C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 22:23 < mnemoc> hi 22:24 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-29-2.reverse.qsc.de] has joined #rocklinux 22:24 < holyolli> moin 22:26 < rxr> tfing: in the gnome2 repository - thanks 22:26 < rxr> all gnome core packages go in there ... 22:27 < netrunner> rxr: is gnome26 in gnome2? 22:27 < tfing> rxr: it is in x11 since kde may use it too 22:27 < mnemoc> isn't gnome24-26 an ABI Change? 22:27 < netrunner> anonymous broadcast interchange? 22:29 < mnemoc> application binary interface 22:35 < netrunner> hm. /me -> bed, leaving mnemoc his prime-time 0-6 :) 22:35 < mnemoc> :) 22:47 * blindy --> bed 22:47 < mnemoc> gn8 blindy 22:49 < daja77> huh, how does the don't build on dependency fails options differs from abort on all errors? 22:50 < mnemoc> the last stop building after the first error 22:50 < daja77> whole build now stopped on failing gcc2, can't believe all the rest is depending on ot 22:50 < daja77> it 22:50 < daja77> there was ony one error too ... 22:50 < mnemoc> i have never used "don't build on dependency fails" 22:51 < daja77> it was netrunners suggestion, turning it off ... 22:51 < tfing> kick him ! 22:52 < mnemoc> i use 'abort on error' and 'retry failed' :-) i don't allow anything to fail :p 22:53 < daja77> yeah you don't build x and desktop stuff anyway, this would change your mind, believe me 22:55 < tfing> :) 22:56 < daja77> btw it is interesting that 3.4 can't build gcc2 anymore ... 22:56 < mnemoc> :) 22:56 < mnemoc> why do u want gcc2? 22:56 < daja77> i need it for my studies :( 22:57 * mnemoc makes funny faces to daja77 22:58 < daja77> :p 22:58 < daja77> yeah i know it is crap 22:58 < mnemoc> ô) 22:58 < mnemoc> ^o) :) 22:58 * daja77 kicks mnemoc >_< 23:01 < rolla> you should be nicer daja77 23:02 < daja77> yeah i really should 23:02 < rolla> ;) 23:32 < daja77> n8 23:45 < mnemoc> n8 daja77 --- Log closed Wed May 05 00:00:32 2004