--- Log opened Sun May 16 00:00:16 2004
00:00 < netrunner> rxr: alsa-driver: gcc-3.4.patch fails to apply (no file to patch). The file you patch is not in the tarball ...
00:01 < rxr> I have commited the alsa modifications 
00:01  * rxr shrugs
00:02 < netrunner> well, wouldn't help me anyway, as I do not build for ppc, but ... :)
00:03 < rxr> I voted for reject
00:03 < rxr> just revert this one locally
00:03 < rxr> I have more changes for this one anyway
00:03 < rxr> and I know it failed - I thought I had not submitted it ...
00:04 < netrunner> np, I just share what I see :)
00:04 < rxr> all the other patches should be fine ...
00:09 < netrunner> build suspended, guests want to sleep :) n8 
00:11 < rxr> :-(
00:12 < rxr> but greatings to your guests ...
00:13 < rxr> but I'll also soon skip further builds here - snice this fills my iBook /home partition ...
00:30 < rxr> hm - if this is true:
00:30 < rxr> # du -csh build/system-2.1.0-DEV-powerpc-powerpc-desktop-expert/
00:30 < rxr> 19G     total
00:31 < rxr> hm - no can't be
00:31 < rxr> soem stuff coutned multiple times ...
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01:09 < rxr> n8 all
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01:09 < valentin> n8 rxr
01:13 < rxr> oh - n8 valentin 
01:13 < rxr> hm - running rsynv without bandwidth limitting sucks for rsync
01:13  * rxr needs to finally add traffic shaping for ssh non-bulk traffic ...
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01:20 < mnemoc> rsync?
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01:23  * mnemoc wonders how to code wall in bash
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06:58 < fake> cool, i finally got isakmpd working with two dynamic ip's
06:59 < fake> ... didn't think it's that easy ;)
07:03 < dsoul> it's not, you are just so genius :P
07:09 < SMP> fake: method?
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09:24 < fake> SMP: evil shellscript and iaskmpd.fifo
09:30 < SMP> ah, just the way I suggested
09:48  * netrunner playing ges
09:48 < netrunner> gens
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10:05 < rxr> netrunner: gens?
10:05 < rxr> netrunner: where do you do you found the ROM images ?
10:05 < rxr> sonic or so ?
10:07 < netrunner> rxr: google: genesis rom download .... and dig through all the haxxoring sites that are dialer breeds.
10:08 < netrunner> rxr: I have all sonics but 3
10:09 < netrunner> http://www.thaigaming.com/tradezone/rom/rom.htm for example ...
10:10 < netrunner> oh, quite a dead link collection :)
10:25 < rxr> on what box do you run gens? how many Mhz, and how much CPU load does playing cause ?
10:30  * SMP curses Clifford for scripts/Download
10:35 < rxr> YKW writes "According to Ars Technica, Germany has decided to vote against all changes to current European patent laws. In a statement given to demonstrators in Germany, Federal Department of Justice Minsterial Director Elmar Hucko read the riot act to the EC: 'Under no circumstances do we want American procedures in Europe, Hucko vowed with regard to the US patent process. A patent must be "a fair reward for a bona fide invention and not abused as a strategy to bludgeon competitors.' With the largest EU member against software patents and French IT leaders lobbying their goverment to vote against them too, Europe might be saved from software patents. At least for a while. An older Slashdot article about software patents in Europe is here." 
10:35 < rxr> ^- /.
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11:18 < blindy> moin
11:22 < dsoul> hi blindy 
11:22 < rxr> hi blindy and dsoul 
11:23 < dsoul> hi rxr 
11:24 < rxr> *lol* Dave Jones: "I screwed up twice, and a) used the wrong CAN number to reference a vulnerability, and b) included the wrong md5sums in the advisory text I sent out. I suck."
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11:25 < rxr> hi bluefire 
11:25 < blindy> rxr: at least he's honest :)
11:25 < blindy> btw, you can expect LVP 0.4.1 today
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11:32 < bluefire> hiho rxr
11:32 < ringo> hi bluefire
11:32  * bluefire waves
11:33  * ringo was back
11:34  * ringo thinks networking on windows xp s***s big time.
11:34 < blindy> s/net//
11:35 < ringo> hmmm must install rock but its not my computer :(
11:35 < blindy> windows is for playing games, and playing games only
11:35 < ringo> no games even that s***s big time ... 
11:36 < ringo> I think wxp is a violation of your computer :)
11:36 < ringo> there must come some law agains wxp
11:37  * ringo afk shower (showering off wxp expirience).
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11:43  * rxr shortly off
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11:53 < netrunner> rxr: gens uses 99% of one of my 2 athlon 2,4GHz
11:54 < netrunner> but runs smooth :)
11:54 < blindy> what is gens?
11:55 < netrunner> genesis emulator
11:55 < blindy> ah
11:56 < blindy> don't emulators always complete burn a cpu?
11:57 < netrunner> probably. that's the good thing with SMP :)
12:07 < fake> SMP: why do i have only one enc ?
12:07 < fake> SMP: i have a 3-way-config
12:08 < fake> when i set them up to route to both networks, the packets only reacht the 'wrong' network
12:19 < SMP> one enc? you mean one enc0 interface on OpenBSD?
12:27 < fake> yes
12:27 < fake> shall i route everything through that??
12:27 < SMP> enc0 is not what you think it is
12:28 < SMP> you don't set routes to IPsec destinations
12:29 < fake> oh, i don't?
12:29 < fake> but? what do i do?
12:30 < SMP> you need to set up SAs for the traffic you want to encrypt with your peers
12:30 < fake> aha!
12:31 < fake> security associations
12:32 < fake> in the vpn man-page it's not clear wether the ipsecadm-steps are also needed for the isakmpd-setup
12:37 < SMP> depends on which ipsecadm steps you mean
12:38 < SMP> you can use ipsecadm to define your policy, i.e. say what packets you want encrypted (if they are allowed to leave or arrive unencrypted)
12:38 < lowy> morning
12:38 < lowy> well afternoon already
12:38 -!- lowy is now known as LowLander
12:38 < SMP> but the management of the actual SAs is done by isakmpd
12:38 < LowLander> hey fake hows the live-CD going ?
12:39 < fake> aaaah!
12:39 < fake> now i get it
12:39 < fake> stupid me
12:39  * fake never seen the 'encap' thing in netstat -r before
12:40 < ringo> life rock sounds nice ...
12:41  * fake could sm send t
12:42 < fake> but i wanted to fix s/th before, unfortunately i'm not sure anymore i remember what it was
12:42 < LowLander> fake it is useable already ?
12:43 < fake> LowLander: yes
12:43 < LowLander> can you put it online somewhere ?
12:43 < fake> SMP: how will i do routing, then?
12:44 < fake> LowLander: i will submit it to submaster, but not now. i want to do some final cleanups after i got some sleep
12:44 < LowLander> ok will look forward to try it :-)
12:45 < fake> .oO( when i did a 2-peer-connection, i could just route through enc0... ?)
12:48 < SMP> you _don't_ route at all
12:48 < fake> ...
12:48 < SMP> you tell isakmpd to negotiate SAs for the traffic you want to send/receive with your peers
12:49 < fake> yes, but how do i actually 'send' the traffic to exactly one peer then?
12:49 < SMP> SAs are in the IPsec-connection sections in your isakmpd.conf
12:49 < SMP> fake: that question makes no sense :>
12:50 < fake> SMP: my config files contain information about the 'internal' networks already
12:50  * fake now know he doesn't know anything
12:51 < SMP> the kernel will apply encryption before a packet leaves the host
12:51 < SMP> it doesn't matter on which interface it is going to leave
12:51 < fake> how can a package reach it's destination without routing?
12:51 < SMP> look at your netstat -rnf encap
12:51 < fake> yes
12:52  * fake now knows for what to google next ;)
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12:52 < fake> so the routing is implied by the SAs
12:52 < SMP> (wait, gotta log into an actual box myself)
12:52 < fake> sort of
12:54 < SMP> the last column. peer-IP/encap-protocol/policy/direction
12:54 < fake> ARGH!
12:54 < fake> ARGH ARGH ARGH ARGH ARGH
12:54 < fake> I am so damn stupid
12:54 < fake> sorry to bother you
12:55 < fake> now i know why the packets always reached the wring destination
12:55 < fake> i mixed up dyndns and internal net association.
12:55 < fake> *DOUH*
12:59 < fake> the encap stuff is all correct
13:03 < BoS> moin
13:04 < BoS> anyone here whit issues to ppc
13:04 < netrunner>  *g* "Sex is like hacking...you get in, you get out, and you hope you didn't leave something behind that can be traced back to you!"
13:08 < fake> hrmpf
13:16  * fake will get some sleep now, first
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13:28 < Frederic> owl, owl
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14:56 < rxr> re
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14:58 < nzg> moin
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15:03 < blindy> hmm
15:03 < blindy> damn
15:03 < blindy> loop device with cryptoloop is making problems >_<
15:04 < blindy> gotta update loop-aes and ciphers
15:08 < rxr> trying to rebuild mozilla the 4th time today ..
15:12 < blindy> ARGH
15:12 < blindy> -newdelete once again fucked up my build >_<
15:16 < blindy> ok, no LVP today >_<
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16:04 < dsoul> iproute2 can be compiled only with dietlibc?
16:05  * blindy gone
16:14 < rxr> dsoul:  no
16:25 < dsoul> so why i get the same error as http://www.rocklinux-consulting.de/service/regtest/reference/2003-07-22/1-iproute2.err only with glibc and not with dietlibc?
16:32 < rxr> dsoul: which ROCK Linux version are you building ?
16:33 < dsoul> current :)
16:35 < mnemoc> moin
16:35 < dsoul> hi mnemoc 
16:35 < nzg> moin mnemoc
16:35 < mnemoc> dsoul: hi, what 'current' means to you? trunk? 2.0-stable? 2.0.0?
16:36 < mnemoc> hi nzg 
16:36 < dsoul> trunk
16:37 < rxr> I did not got those ...
16:37 < rxr> maybe optimization setin ...
16:37 < rxr> setting even
16:37 < rxr> typing with > 3s latency s*cks a bti
16:38 < mnemoc> dsoul: i don't have dietlibc and i i have iproute2 working :)
16:41 < dsoul> cool :)
16:42 < mnemoc> can you publish your real errlog?
16:42 < rxr> and config
16:42 < rxr> arch opt setting would be enough for a start
16:43 < mnemoc> and ./scripts/Create-ErrList :)
16:43 < rxr> (ans list of submaster patches ?)
16:43 < rxr> just kidding
16:44 < dsoul> i will give them soon but now my admins on university starteded theirs plays with network ;)
16:45 < mnemoc> random-switchs-routers-and-cables-unplugs championship?
16:45 < dsoul> :)
16:48 < dsoul> http://pingu.ii.uj.edu.pl/~darksoul/logs/
16:48 < mnemoc> .oO( why the _fsck_ i tend to use vi commands in shell prompt!!! )o
17:02 < rxr> rm -rf Pink - her hompage is flash only ... :-(
17:04 < nzg> why -r ?
17:05 < rxr> the dir the ogg files are in ? ;-)
17:06 < nzg> k, that should do it
17:07 < rxr> the search on amazon.com also sucks big times ...
17:08 < nzg> never used it...i prefer a real bookshop
17:09 < nzg> i want to hold the ware in my hand
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18:31 < rxr> crazzy tetris in svg and mozilla
18:32 < rxr> http://www.croczilla.com/svg/samples/svgtetris/svgtetris.xml
18:32 < rxr> hm - as expected takes quite some CPU load - 20-40% on my 800Mhz PowerPC to render this SVG Tetris ...
18:32 < rxr> those stupid code duplicating non-C able Gnome pseudo hackers ...
18:32 < rxr> eggtoolbar.h:212: error: previous declaration of 'egg_toolbar_append_element' was here
18:37 < rxr> crazy - this Gnome code duplication results in I can just apply my devhelp patch to galeon
18:37 < rxr> really crazzy and freakę ...
18:40 < dsoul> :)
18:46 < rxr> == 05/16/04 18:46:13 =[5]=> Finished building package epiphany.
18:51 -!- esden|zZz is now known as esden
18:52 < esden> hi ho everyone
18:52 < rxr> hi esden 
18:53  * rxr just installeda dozen gnome libs in order to lunch the epiphany binary :-(
18:54 < rxr> ok - or even more
18:55 < rxr> gnome-keyring was the last ...
18:55 < dsoul> hi esden 
18:56 < rxr> ok - epiphany and galeon should now also build ... (2 gcc-3.4 errors less)
18:56 < rxr> patch in submaster after a final rebuild ...
19:15 < esden> rxr: have you tryed to compile boost with gcc-3.4?
19:16 < esden> also log4cpp would be interesting but it is not in rocklinux
19:52 < rxr> == 05/16/04 19:11:29 =[5]=> Finished building package galeon.
19:53 < rxr> esden: boost built
19:53 < rxr> without patch
19:53 < rxr> Build [5] at 05/05/2004 from 09:18:12 to 09:43:59 CEST
20:07 < rxr> 208 Patches in Submaster (...)
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20:25 < esden> rxr: good to know thanks
20:25 < rxr> ;-) No problem.
21:03 < SMP> oh, Clifford doing the patch dance
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21:15 < rxr> cliffords poor mailserver ...
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22:05 < netrunne1> omg ... VIRUS (W32/Netsky-P) IN MAIL TO YOU (from <?@[127.0.0.1]>)
22:05 < netrunne1> what mail server accepts such senders?
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22:31 < mnemoc_> moin :(
22:31 < mnemoc_> my shell box is down :'(
22:31 < nzg> moin mnemoc_
22:32 < mnemoc_> hi nzg 
22:34 < mnemoc_> chatzilla is not as discusting as i was expecting
22:47 < owl> moin. gaaaah. 217 spam-mails!?! gaaaaaaaah.!
22:48 < mnemoc_> one day?
22:48  * nzg had no spam the last 3 days
22:50 < owl> mnemoc_: nope. about 2 - 3 weeks i guess
22:50 < owl> (no... longer... first from 32 march)
22:50 < owl> 23 i mean
22:52 < nzg> hm
22:56 < mnemoc_> my nettools-replacement (bash+iproute2) is almost done :-)
22:56 < mnemoc_> sysvinit-wrappers will take longer :(
22:57 < owl> nzg: hm?
22:58 < nzg> was calculating how much spam per day 217 from end of march till now is
22:59 < mnemoc_> i'll be back
22:59 < mnemoc_> cu
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