--- Log opened Fri May 21 00:00:06 2004
--- Day changed Fri May 21 2004
00:00 < mnemoc> ask whatever you want
00:00 < blokkie> thx mnemoc 
00:06 < mnemoc> :)
00:34 < blokkie> rockportel even has phrack 
00:34  * blokkie is amazed
00:41 < rxr> oh - maybe I should patch the bookmarks of firefox as we do in Motilla ?
00:41 < rxr> Mozilla even
00:41 < rxr> (to contain the ROCK homepages ...)
00:41 < blokkie> ah yes
00:44 < rxr> yes to the patch ?
00:44 < blokkie> yes, patch so we have by default rocklinux links 
00:44 < blokkie> in firebird 
00:51 < dsoul> i wont be using it without that patch :P
00:52 < rxr> could someone try if just coping the patch from mozilla has the correct effect ?
00:58 < daja77> lmao
00:58 < daja77> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/47532
00:58 < daja77> this mail from torvalds is funny
00:58 < blokkie> I don't have moz installed , I can't check
00:58 < daja77> n8 you all
00:59 < blokkie> night daja77 
00:59 < daja77> n8 blokkie 
01:02 < mnemoc> daja77: how was the speach about mexico and chile?
01:07 < blokkie> gnome-session starts .. phew
01:08 < blokkie> now , I don't know how to fix this .. but I want X running in 1600x1200  and I've set it like the in XF86Config in color dept 24  , but it seems to go back to 800x640 
01:08 < blokkie> I have NVidia driver set up for X too 
01:08 < blokkie> compiled the driver etc .. all is working exept the res
01:09 < blokkie> 1600x1200 doesn't seem to work
01:10 < rxr> take al look into your /var/log/X* log file
01:10 < rxr> why the resolution was dropped
01:10 < rxr> e.g. you have no DDC monitor - or a refresh rate specified that is too low ?
01:11 < rxr> xrandr in your running X tells (should at least) you which resolutions are available in your current config
01:12  * rxr compiling my MacOSD with -funit-at-a-time in one chunk to see if it makes a difference ...
01:13 < blokkie> xrandr says 1024 is max res .. while I've been running gnome in 1600 before .. it's a 19" CRT screen 
01:14 < rxr> you mean with other distributions?
01:14 < blokkie> yes
01:14 < rxr> or with rocks until some minutes ago?
01:14 < rxr> then take a look into /var/log/XFree86.0.log and read why the modes are rejected
01:14 < blokkie> I've never been able to get a higher res then 1024 with rock
01:15 < rxr> you might specify a refresh rate the monitor 
01:15 < rxr> or you have not changed the "Screen" section
01:15 < blokkie> yeah
01:15 < rxr> per default it is:
01:15 < rxr> Modes       "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
01:15 < rxr> Modes       "1600x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
01:16 < rxr> Modes       "1600x1024" "1280x1024" "1024x768"
01:16 < rxr> the last two are examples you might like
01:16 < blokkie> I changed that to _only_ use 1600x1024
01:17 < rxr> hm - you do not need this ...
01:17 < rxr> and e.g. when you connect another monitor X does not start anymore ...
01:18 < rxr> I think you additionally should take a look into the Monitor section
01:19 < rxr> I guess you specify refresh rates and thus limit the driver to those
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01:24 < blokkie> fixed that
01:24 < blokkie> thx
01:24 < blokkie> was a stupid 24 bit line
01:24 < rxr> now @ 1600x1024 ?
01:24 < blokkie> yes dear
01:24 < rxr> ok - some bench: unit-at-a-time of macosd:
01:24 < rxr> real    0m56.317s
01:24 < rxr> user    0m42.186s
01:24 < rxr> sys     0m3.181s
01:25 < blokkie> rxr:  is OO.o  in packages .
01:25 < blokkie> s/./?/
01:25 < rxr> sadly no - because in the past one could not build it without java
01:25 < rxr> and we are not allowed to redistribute java ...
01:26 < rxr> but recently jsaw did start to package it disabling the java parts ...
01:26 < blokkie> okelidokeli
01:26 < rxr> I once saw it in submaster I guess
01:26 < blokkie> I'll grab the source then
01:26 < rxr> but until it is really polished it might be better to use the binary
01:26 < rxr> blokkie: building from source manually should be quite painfull ...
01:29 < rxr> ok - normal macosd build:
01:29 < blokkie> I need it , coz I made a slideshow (in anoter distro) to showoff linux 
01:29 < rxr> real    0m52.145s
01:29 < rxr> user    0m43.303s
01:29 < rxr> sys     0m3.643s
01:29 < rxr> blokkie: yeah - sure, but just using the binary from the OO site should be possible
01:29 < rxr> compiling from source will be really ugly when you do it manually
01:30 < rxr> any other project is no problem, configure ; make ; make install - wise, but building OO is a pain
01:31 < rxr> binary size:
01:31 < rxr> 127860  macosd
01:31 < rxr> 127928  all
01:31 < blokkie> ko
01:31 < blokkie> ok
01:31 < blokkie> downing bins atm
01:31 < rxr> speed would be interesting - I should compile something that is bech-able ...
01:32 < blokkie> 78026 kb
01:33 < blokkie> I happen to have luck with the download , there is a bin pkg on belnet == 1mb /sec download  from where I am
01:34 < blokkie> life is great :)
01:34 < blokkie> ok 
01:35 < blokkie> I don't realy like the chatlogs in the portal site 
01:38 < rxr> http://www.rocklinux.net/typo3/happy-users.html
01:38  * rxr off into the kitchen - and then into bed
01:38 < rxr> cu
01:40 < dsoul> bye rxr 
02:00 < blokkie> night
02:00 < dsoul> bye blokkie 
02:01 < blokkie> I'm not going :-) .. jsut a good night for mister_helps_blokkie_alot  aka rxr =-)
02:02 < rxr> rehi
02:02 < rxr> shortly back
02:02 < rxr> what is wrong with the irclog ?
02:02 < blokkie> nothing .. jsut , that it I find it odd it's available for every body to view
02:03 < rxr> ah ..
02:03 < rxr> we like it quite alot because it accelerates our already high google rating ...
02:03 < dsoul> :)
02:03 < rxr> and it is just a public meeting - just as mailing lists ...
02:03 < blokkie> hehe
02:04 < rxr> for private things there are querries ... ;-)
02:04 < blokkie> agreed
02:04 < rxr> but now I'm off for a wine and some chapters in a book - cu after sleep
02:05 < blokkie> me too , need sleep
02:06 < blokkie> kind of .. late
02:06 < blokkie> good evening all, and mister dsoul  , sleep well , now I'm off
02:07 < dsoul> bye blokkie :)
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06:48 < mnemoc> *yawn*
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07:23 < netrunner> moin
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07:25 < mnemoc> moin netrunner 
07:26 < netrunner> hi mnemoc ... I'll drive to uni now. bbl
07:27 < mnemoc> cu
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09:07 < blindy> moin
09:13 < dsoul> hi blindy 
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09:18 < tfing> moin
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09:18 < blokkie> good morning
09:18 < dsoul> hi tfing 
09:18 < dsoul> hi blokkie 
09:22 < blokkie> I found that enlightenment16-7pre2 is out
09:22 < blokkie> how would I update the package list so you all can benefit from it ?
09:23 < dsoul> blokkie with submaster
09:25 < blokkie> subversion ?
09:25 < netrunner> blokkie: http://www.rocklinux.net/submaster
09:25 < blokkie> ok , thx 
09:26 < dsoul> http://www.rocklinux.org/submaster.html how to use it :)
09:32 < blokkie> looks like sm create svn2.rocklinux-consulting aint working
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09:35 < dsoul> blokkie svn.*
09:37 < blokkie> dumping files now ;-)
09:39 < dsoul> i've just updated to the lastest revision and downloading :P
09:40 < blokkie> ?
09:40 < blokkie> I've created a username and passwd
09:40 < blokkie> I see that there are many open patches 
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09:47 < dsoul> problem of ircing from home :)
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09:48 < blokkie> nauthy kernel , bad bad kernel 
09:48 < dsoul> :>
09:51 < blindy> kernel? panic?
09:53 < blokkie> stupid pseudo filesystem 
09:54 < blokkie> I forgot to add that 
09:54 < blokkie> it's so well tucked away .. like they don't want me to enable it the first time :)
09:55 < blokkie> after kernel is done, and alsa is setup ok, I'm gonna try and patch with submaster enlightenment16 to the latest
09:55 < blokkie> _exiting_ times :-)
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10:09 < blokkie> I've got pseudo fs enabled and still a kernel panic
10:10 < blokkie> it cannot find root=/dev/discs/disc0 etc etc 
10:12 < blokkie> odd
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10:52 < blokkie> *wink*
10:53 < dsoul> blokkie maybe you need some shell?
10:54 < blokkie> sorry .. yeah, I can image my /join /part is getting on your nerves :'(
10:55 < dsoul> no, i've just trying to help :)
10:55 < blokkie> subtile suggestions are appreciated :-)
10:56 < blokkie> let me  grab one of my IP's and irssi from there , but I don't know how "screen" works 
10:59 < netrunner> just start screen
11:00 < netrunner> detach: <C-X> D     reattach: screen -R -D
11:00 < netrunner> oh, <C-X> d
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11:07 < dsoul> man screen :)
11:11 < tcr> moin all
11:12 < dsoul> hi tcr 
11:25 < tcr> http://www.oreilly.com/news/graphics/prog_lang_poster.pdf
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11:58 < blokkie> how do I enable glx in Xlib ? 
11:59 < blokkie> glxinfo shwos nothing, while I have enabled glx in XFree86 config 
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12:15 < ringo> re christian_
12:15 < netrunner> hm, my mozilla crashes.
12:16 < ringo> on what kind of stuff ?
12:18 < netrunner> solved. I copied windows fonts over ... they had mode 400
12:19 < ringo> can you actually do java flash and that kind of stuff with mozilla ?
12:20 < netrunner> sure
12:26 < ringo> nice :) does it take much time to set up ?
12:26 < netrunner> nope. 
12:27 < netrunner> for java you need to symlink the plugin they supply to the mozilla plugins dir
12:27 < netrunner> for flash you have to download the plugin and symlink/copy it there, too
12:27 < dsoul> but it takes much processor time to run :)
12:27 < netrunner> then restart mozilla
12:27 < netrunner> well ... java stays java .)
12:28 < dsoul> :)
12:28 < ringo> ok thanks
12:42 < netrunner> what is with the download of this stupid evas thing? the checkout always stalles :/
12:45 < netrunner> damn, checkout does not work natted?
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13:16 < blokkie> how do I make /dev/tty0 ? 
13:27 < tcr> Having the right hardware plugged in and having MKOLDCOMPAT in your devfsd.conf, probably
13:28 < daja77> blokkie: /dev/tts/0
13:30 < blokkie> fdo's X server needs /dev/tty0 
13:31 < daja77> oh sorry read wrong, shouldn't that be the /dev/pts devices?
13:34 < blokkie> well .. when I start Xvesa  is seeks for /dev/tty0  but there is only /dev/tty and /dev/tts (like you pointed out)
13:34 < blokkie> s/is/it/
13:35 < blokkie> fatal error : LinuxInit : cannot open /dev/tty0 no such file or directory
13:36 < daja77> try ln -s /dev/vc/0 /dev/tty0
13:36  * netrunner played quake... works fine :)
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13:49 < blokkie> mmgh
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14:07 < ringo> Is there some tool to rescue to detect the bounderies between partitions when mbr has been overwritten?
14:08 < BoS> re
14:08 < ringo> re
14:08 < rxr> ringo: yes, there is something open source
14:08 < rxr> but I do not remember wha
14:08 < rxr> what even
14:08 < rxr> maybe parted can do this ...
14:08 < rxr> just freshmeat ot google ...
14:09 < ringo> rxr darling thx :)
14:11 < link_> good morning
14:12 < blokkie> ok .. fdo's kdrive server works like a charm on rock :-)
14:12 < blokkie>  ./Xvesa -ac -nolisten tcp -mode 0x0146 -shadow 
14:13 < blokkie> morninf link_ 
14:13 < blokkie> morning even
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14:15 < rxr> who is fdo ...
14:18 < blokkie> freedesktop.org
14:27 < blindy> dammit
14:28 < blindy> my Laptops HD seems to be fscked
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14:38 < blindy> moin esden 
14:40 < blindy> jupp... tons of bad blocks >_<
14:41 < BoS> open the windows and ....
14:42 < blindy> throw out the fscked harddisk :)
14:42 < blindy> then go and biy a new one and restore the backup...
14:42 < blindy> backup...
14:42 < blindy> backup...
14:42 < BoS> ;)
14:42 < blindy> I knew there was something missing in my great plan ._<
14:43 < blindy> well, it looks like only some licq history files were damaged as well as stuff with similiar importance
14:50 < esden> moin everyone
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15:02 < ringo> real guys dont backup ;)
15:02 < blindy> s/guys/men/
15:03 < BoS> real ? :)
15:03 < esden> I think that very soon blindy will have a backup robot working for him at home ;)
15:04 < tcr> Errm, anyone knows how to resume a download with mozilla which has been externly interrupted? 
15:04 < esden> nope
15:04 < blindy> esden: no, but I've been thinking about a four-disk RAID 5
15:04 < blindy> tcr: cd $downloaddir && wget -c ${url}}
15:05 < blindy> esden: with 120 or 180 GB per disk
15:05 < esden> blindy: but you need notification when a disc dyes
15:06 < blindy> esden: yes
15:06 < blindy> esden: but AFAIK mdadm has got something there
15:07 < esden> you want to make a software raid? o_O
15:07 < esden> not really...
15:09 < tcr> blindy, Wonderful! Weird, that mozilla itself isn't capable of that (actually it's something I'd expect from everything which call itself a download manager)
15:11 < blindy> esden: Unfortunatiely I do not have a hardware IDE-RAID Controller and noone will give me a resent containing a SCSI-RAID Controller including disks
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15:12 < esden> blindy: you are earning money ... you can buy one ;)
15:12 < esden> a hp raid controller from ebay is not _so_ expensive
15:12 < blindy> esden: yes, and I'm not throwing it away
15:12 < blindy> esden: no, but devicies with similiar capacity are
15:12 < esden> and there is controllyng software for it
15:13 < esden> ohh ... right ... you need a ide raid controller
15:13 < esden> they are expensive ...
15:13 < esden> because there are not many used ones running around
15:14 < blindy> esden: I'll try to get a Promise RAID Controller
15:14 < blindy> but I'm not going to spend more than 100 Euro on it
15:16 < blindy> hmm
15:16 < blindy> this looks bad for my little laptop
15:17 < blindy> guess I'll try to rescue the most important data and try to clean the disk using /dev/zero, then reinstall
15:17 < blindy> else I'm going to get a new disk by tomorrow
15:17 < blindy> esden: you have a converter from laptop-ide to normal ide?
15:21 < esden> nope sorry
15:21 < blindy> damn
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16:21 < mnemoc> moin
16:21 < daja77> hi mnemoc 
16:22 < mnemoc> daja77!
16:22 < mnemoc> daja77: you didn't tell me how was the speach about .mx and .cl ;)
16:23 < daja77> yep because it is next week, i confused this
16:23 < dsoul> hi mnemoc 
16:24 < mnemoc> oh
16:24 < mnemoc> hi dsoul 
16:24 < mnemoc> daja77:  i forgive you
16:24 < daja77> hehe, stil dunno if I go to this anyway
16:24 < mnemoc> :'(
16:24 < daja77> we'll see :D
16:25 < mnemoc> :D
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19:27 < nzg> moin
19:28 < dsoul> hi nzg 
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22:49 < MadTux> yo.
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23:34 < mnemoc> *yawn*
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