--- Log opened Sat May 22 00:00:44 2004
00:09 < rxr> hi mnemoc 
00:16 < netrunner> *yawn*
00:21  * rxr holds up a hand so netrunner does not eat the whole channel
00:22 < StefanG_> don't talk about eating, i'm hungry :)
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00:24 < esden> hi ho
00:25 < rxr> hi esden 
00:25 < esden> hi rxr 
00:26 < netrunner> rxr: :)
00:26  * netrunner made pizza today ... 
00:27 < esden> netrunner: you are our hero ;)
00:27 < StefanG_> i had no lunch because i sleept until 14.30 or something like that :)
00:27 -!- StefanG_ is now known as StefanG
00:27  * netrunner was @uni @8am
00:27 < StefanG> had to pardy yesterday ;-)
00:28 < netrunner> trying build for athlonXP ...
00:28 < StefanG> and because of this there was no uni today :)
00:28 < esden> StefanG: poor boy ... ohhh
00:28 < StefanG> like very year ;-)
00:29 < StefanG> ahh, no problem :)
00:32 < netrunner> rxr: the problem stefan f reported must be within his host system, it builds fine for athlonXP here.
00:32 < netrunner> n8
00:33 < dsoul> problem with glibc?
00:34 < rxr> netrunner: but you use gcc-3.4 for all, right ?
00:34 < dsoul> even 3.3.3 works ok
00:34  * rxr off, too. n8 all
00:35 < dsoul> at least when updating system, this nigh i'll try to build isos :)
00:39 < esden> nice toy: "P4216A KILLTRUNK" ... I want one of these
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00:39 < nzg> moin
00:41 < esden> huhu nzg 
00:41 < nzg> moin esden
00:41  * esden is happy ... I installed an octain today ... that means the day was good ;)
00:42 < esden> I mean octane
00:42 < nzg> what is octane?
00:42 < esden> SGI Octane
00:42 < esden> it is an sgi with an R10000 processor iirc
00:42 < nzg> nice machine ;-)
00:43 < nzg> cd '/root/prj/bms2/src/tsclib'
00:43 < nzg> mmh, not nice
00:43 < esden> bms2?
00:43 < nzg> a current project
00:43 < nzg> something like erp for small companies
00:43 < esden> what kind of a project?
00:44 < esden> erp? (me feels now like living behind the moon)
00:44 < nzg> is the successor of a tool i wrote for windows that just manages bills and clients
00:44 < nzg> erp=enterpise resource planning
00:44 < nzg> my irssi runs in the kdevelop console, thats where the cd is from...
00:44 < esden> ohh ok ... very interesting ... ;)
00:45 < esden> in what console? o_O *rofl*
00:46 < nzg> kdevelop opens a terminal at the bottom, i treid to use irssi in there, but it seems my test failed
00:46 < nzg> moved it to an eterm now
00:46 < esden> aaaha
00:46 < esden> ok
00:48 < nzg> it just seemit just seemed practical to have a chat inside the ide ;-)
00:48 < nzg> s/seemit/seemed
00:50 < nzg> mmh, i should write a plungin for kdevelop which provides irc-funtionality
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01:02 < esden> poor nzg
01:21 < StefanG> n8
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02:38 < demian> hi
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02:45 < owl> moin
02:47 < demian> hi owl 
02:47 < owl> hi demian 
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02:54 < owl> gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!! www.pds-online.de - i don't want to vote for an proxy error :(((
02:56 < demian> bye
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03:11 < mnemoc> rehi
03:11 < owl> hi mnemoc 
03:13 < mnemoc> owlie
03:15 < owl> hm?
03:19 < mnemoc> nothing :\
03:20 < owl> hm? whats wrong?
03:26 < owl> why are saddles always so expensive? *cries*
03:27 < owl> i want a saddle for "peru" - a saddle for jumping or better for military ...
03:32 < mnemoc> peru?
03:32 < mnemoc> why peru?
03:33 < mnemoc> do u have a horse called peru?
03:35 < owl> yep. i'm riding a horse (not my own, cuz i have no own :((( ) twice a week
03:37 < mnemoc> what an ugly name :\
03:37 < owl> he's a 173 cm large (height - stockmass), 12 years, can i guess l-dressage and jumping and is an bavarian horse (bayerisches warumblut)
03:38 < owl> hehe. it's ok imho ;) my "friend" from netherlands name's not better - remi ;p
03:39 < mnemoc> :p
03:39 < owl> but both horses are great ;) both have a high walks, are not easy to sit, but you can learn a lot from them and so. :)
03:39 < owl> and - heh - i need it, at least if i really want to become a professional horserider ;)
03:41 < mnemoc> then you have to pay the price of the saddle ;)
03:42 < owl> hm? why? 
03:43 < owl> i first need to fly to mallorca, then i have to save money for the drivers licence and for riding 3 times a week, and playing the guitar... 
03:44 < mnemoc> playing guittar is not expensive :)
03:45 < owl> it is... 40 EURO per month... no 42... --> horseback riding: 150... and i get 370 EUR/month
03:45 < mnemoc> outch
03:46 < owl> jep
03:46 < mnemoc> and the saddle? how many month without guitar?
03:47 < owl> and i have to continue doing my drivers licence... and have to pay back my parents the money they lend me - about 1200 EUR
03:47 < owl> and the saddle costs about 1400 EUR
03:47 < mnemoc> OMG
03:47 < owl> yep. nice, isn't it?
03:47 < mnemoc> great
03:48 < owl> *g* well, then you  see one of my depression-points :p
03:50 < mnemoc> money money money
03:50 < owl> maybe - hopefully - my old saddle (military) fits to peru... but i will have to talk to a saddler first... cuz i don't want to hurt peru... just because of a not fitting saddle
03:50 < owl> if i had a little money... 
03:51 < mnemoc> i think te owner will not be happy
03:54 < owl> hm? why?
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04:07 < owl>   hm . gn8
04:23 < mnemoc> re 
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11:39 < blindy> ARGH
11:40 < blindy> 1-binutils failed with crt1.o not found >_<
11:40 < daja77> hrhr
11:42 < blindy> ok
11:42 < blindy> gonna install 2.0.0-drock instead
11:43 < blindy> daja77: that was a minimal build, svn HEAD >_<
11:43 < daja77> had such a crap error while cross building gcc
11:44 < blindy> assembler error in glibc
11:45 < blindy> seems to be the root-cause
11:46  * tcr 's downloading xfree86 sources to hopefully get imake out of the x distribution and make it standalone
11:48 < tcr> MAS (a network audio system) is using that and I don't wanna get X on my server
11:50 < blindy> sounds reasonable
11:50 < blindy> tcr: why not try nas?
11:51 < tcr> blindy, :) I didn't find it when I searched for potential candidates. mistik pointed me to MAS and it seems to be the best solution in the long term (and the nas people treat it as a likely successor in the long run)
11:52 < tcr> blindy, besidse NAS is from 10 years ago 
11:52 < blindy> it is?
11:53 < blindy> hadn't looked at the date, just found that it works (without having to poke XFree :)
11:54 < tcr> blindy, yeah the maintainer of it is on the mas mailinglist and told me that "it [NAS] was designed 10 years ago has been pretty much in maintenance mode ever since".
11:54 < tcr> +and
11:55 < tcr> blindy, I can understand your pragmatism
11:56 < blindy> oh
11:56 < blindy> hmm, ok
11:56  * blindy installing drock on his laptop
11:57 < tcr> blindy, Howsoever, I wouldn't advice you touching your running system ;)
11:57 < tcr> It isn't worth the struggle yet
11:57 < blindy> tcr: I have no running system with nas at the moment...
11:57 < blindy> it got destroyed together with my laptops hard disk yesterday
11:57 < tcr> How's that?
11:57 < blindy> I sit on my bed with my laptop on my lap
11:58 < blindy> my mother shouts my name as if she was being stabbed to death
11:58 < blindy> I jump up - my laptop crashing to the floor
11:58 < blindy> well
11:58 < blindy> system was still running, so I didn't think about it being damaged
11:58 < blindy> shut down the machine
11:59 < blindy> and that was the last time I heard something from the hard disk
11:59 < blindy> head crash
11:59 < tcr> Well, lol, shit happens
11:59 < blindy> yeah
11:59 < tcr> But it reminds on that new IBM tv advertisement
12:00 < blindy> o_O
12:00 < blindy> drock does NOT fit in 20 GB ? WTF?
12:01 < tcr> No idea, also go from a minimal system and then install one after one what's needed
12:01 < tcr> s,also,always,
12:02 < blindy> that's what I wanted to do
12:02 < blindy> but 1-glibc23 fails in current svn HEAD
12:02 < blindy> rev3058
12:07 < rxr> rehi
12:09 < blindy> moin rxr 
12:18 < rxr> crazzy:
12:18 < rxr> http://www.iwill.net/zmax/zmaxdp_1.asp
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12:45 < netrunne1> rxr: yes, I use gcc3.4
12:45 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner
12:45 < netrunner> moin
12:47 < blindy> ok
12:47 < netrunner> rxr: ... not on the host system ...
12:47 < blindy> laptop now running svn rev 2356 minimal
12:48  * blindy --> lunch while laptop compiling vim, XFree et al
13:05 < blindy> re
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13:52 < netrunner> rxr: ok, it fails in stage 1 ...
13:59 < blindy> netrunner: glibc?
14:00 < netrunner> yup
14:01 < blindy> ack that
14:04 < blindy> that's why I now have r2356 running instead of trunk >_<
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15:27 < mnemoc> moin
15:27 < rxr> moin mnemoc 
15:27 < mnemoc> hi rxr
15:29 < daja77> hi mnemoc & rxr 
15:29 < mnemoc> hi daja77
15:37 < netrunner> anybody wants my laptop? Sony Vaio Subnotebook PCG-N505X ?
15:38 < rxr> didn't mnemoc called for one?
15:38 < netrunner> ugh, shipping to there could be expensive ;)
15:39 < mnemoc> how expensive?
15:39 < mnemoc> you can send it 'for paying'
15:39 < netrunner> 400 eur
15:40 < rxr> nah
15:40 < mnemoc> ehm
15:40 < rxr> this should not exceed 50 EUR or so, should it?
15:40 < netrunner> that's the price I'd get on ebay.
15:40 < netrunner> ah, no, I do not know the shipment costs :)
15:41 < netrunner> mnemoc: country/city ? (cannot remember this one ;)
15:41  * netrunner calculating ...
15:42 < mnemoc> chile/santiago ... or chile/rancagua if available
15:43 < netrunner> ugh, ups wants 160eur
15:44 < mnemoc> 160eur for/to what?
15:45 < netrunner> to you. german post want's 60eur
15:45 < netrunner> without the for-paying option.
15:46 < netrunner> who else transports packages?
15:46 < mnemoc> ups, dhl,...
15:46  * mnemoc wonders how to send that money
15:48 < netrunner> I once used western union, they charged me 25 eur for sending 100 eur
15:48 < mnemoc> outch
15:48 < netrunner> mnemoc: but you wanted to come here on christmas, no?
15:49 < mnemoc> if you send me a ticket i'll be there ;)
15:53 < mnemoc> USD 1481.98 santiago-munchen-santiago
15:54 < mnemoc> it's a bit more than what i can pay :'(
15:54 < netrunner> mnemoc: you should first check if that laptop fulfills your requirements. it is not the newest. 
15:55 < mnemoc> celeron 333, 10",1024x768... the same as my 17" monitor
15:56 < mnemoc> good enough for me :)
15:57 < mnemoc> i don't need to build ROCKs there ;)
16:00 < netrunner> It runs fine for me with xterms, dillo, and stuff like that. sometimes I use Mozilla for ssl.
16:00 < netrunner> my gf even uses openoffice on it, but that gets really laggy ;)
16:02 < mnemoc> i need something portable, and my palm m-105 is a bit 'short'
16:04 < mnemoc> current retail machine are too powerfull and too expensive for me :|
16:05 < netrunner> mnemoc: If you find a solution to send money here, and if you are fine with the shipping costs I can send it to you.
16:07 < mnemoc> i need to get the money first. can you grab money from paypal?
16:08 < mnemoc> i think they charge less than western union
16:09 < netrunner> hm ... I think I have a friend that has an account, probably even an us account if that matters.
16:10 < mnemoc> how much time do i have to steal that amount? 
16:12 < netrunner> 2weeks +
16:14 < mnemoc> .oO( i think i can do it )o
16:17 < netrunner> need to go now.
16:23 < mnemoc> cu netrunner 
16:55 < mnemoc> wow, chile won at duesseldorf
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16:56 < MadTux> hi.
16:57 < mnemoc> tuxie!
17:00 < daja77> mnemoc: chile won what?
17:00 < mnemoc> tennis
17:01 < daja77> :)
17:01 < MadTux> .oO( so finally they realized that they must do other sports because CR will always kick their ass in soccer :)
17:01 < mnemoc> dreeeam MadTux, dream
17:01 < daja77> hehe
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17:11 < nzg> moin
17:13 < mnemoc> moin
17:13 < dsoul> hi nzg 
17:19 < mnemoc> -4ºC and nothing to solve it.... i hate this office
17:20  * MadTux hugs his megatokyo blanket .. ahhh my sweet warm blanket :)
17:20 < mnemoc> :'(
17:20 < MadTux> what?
17:20 < MadTux> *g*
17:20 < daja77> artic office?
17:21 < MadTux> did u brake the AC ?
17:21 < MadTux> even worst AC hacked?
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17:47 < rxr> rehi
17:47 < rxr> mnemoc: why is ti -4°C in your office ?
17:48 < dsoul> hi rxr 
17:52 < blindy> hi
17:52 < dsoul> hi blindy 
18:04 < mnemoc> rxr: it's a damn metalic structure, and -4 is outside. i think here is colder
18:04 < rxr> oh - so cold on your side :-(
18:05 < rxr> time to overclock the CPUs I guess
18:05 < mnemoc> :)
18:05 < blindy> argl
18:05 < blindy> after 15 minutes qt finds out that libmng is missing
18:06 < mnemoc> thats a reason to consider autoconf a good thing
18:06 < blindy> mnemoc: if used correctly, that is
18:07 < blindy> AFAICS autoconf _is_ used in qt
18:08 < daja77> autoconf a good thing, huh?
18:09 < mnemoc> patch it to check for libmng ;)
18:30 < mnemoc> it's damn coold!!! and the fscking 'hot-water-machine' is damaged
18:31 < daja77> I don't get it, nobody can be forced to work in such a cold office here
18:32 < mnemoc> people use extra cloth =) ... i forgot to do that
18:34 < mnemoc> some people bring there own electrical thing to warm their feet
18:34 < mnemoc> stove
18:37 < rxr> mnemoc: what is your job there?
18:38 < mnemoc> coding
18:38 < rxr> doesn't the finger fall off after some hours typing @-4°C ?
18:38 < rxr> and wearing hand-warmer isn't that practical either ...
18:40 < daja77> what about a heating payed by your employer
18:40 < mnemoc> i tryed but didn't work
18:40 < mnemoc> -4 is cold but not cold enough to loos fingers
18:40 < daja77> too cold to work
18:40 < mnemoc> "if the others can work, you too"
18:40 < daja77> unbelievable
18:40 < rxr> is "nor warming working rooms"  common practice over there?
18:41 < mnemoc> not in small and medium companies
18:41 < rxr> and you are in a big one?
18:41 < mnemoc> and in a metalic structure it's less common and even inpractical
18:42 < mnemoc> no, small.
18:42 < rxr> lucky you ... :-(
18:42 < mnemoc> :(
18:43  * MadTux yawns..
18:43 < daja77> and who pays you for the cold?
18:43 < mnemoc> yourself
18:43  * mnemoc kicks MadTux 
18:44 < MadTux> hey what did i do?
18:44 < MadTux> i just came back :(
18:44 < rxr> yawning ...
18:44 < mnemoc> yawning
18:44 < MadTux> i wasn't yawning at mnemoc's stuff i was yawning cause i'm sleepy
18:44 < daja77> and besides it is always fun to kick MadTux 
18:44 < MadTux> damn ... i better not talk at all
18:45 < mnemoc> :p
18:47 < MadTux> mnemoc: you know there is something called coffee and coats... that helps when its cold sometimes
18:47 < MadTux> don't tell me ur employer also polkicies against that
18:48 < mnemoc> i have a cold water and cocacola machine
18:48 < daja77> argh
18:48 < MadTux> geez!
18:49 < mnemoc> and a damaged electrical thing to hot water... the secreatary drop it :\
18:49 < MadTux> snow sandwiches for lunch? icecream de postre?
18:50 < mnemoc> lunch is at home in 2 hours
18:50 < MadTux> i see
18:50 < MadTux> 2 hours..?
18:50 < MadTux> at 3pm?!
18:51 < mnemoc> 1:30 hours ;) 
18:51 < mnemoc> 14:30->16:00
18:53 < mnemoc> thinking about heating... i don't even have heating at home, but that's not as cold as here
18:54 < mnemoc> yes!!... it worked :)
18:54 < daja77> :)
18:55 < rxr> what works
18:55 < MadTux> it really sounds like a hard thing.. living all the way there at the end of the world..
18:55 < mnemoc> rxr: my work :)
18:58 < mnemoc> MadTux: i cities where there are snow and more than a couple of cold weeks they have good heating. in cities like this that "doesn't pay"
18:58 < MadTux> i see
18:59 < daja77> which is the lowest temperature where you still have to work
18:59  * MadTux installed an AC this week to get his office Colder..
19:01 < mnemoc> daja77: here, considering low temepartures are not common there is no limit
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19:01 < daja77> how is the weather over there in .cr?
19:01 < mnemoc> tropical ;)
19:01 < mnemoc> aaaaazucar
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19:02 < mnemoc> .oO( which means 'sugar'... i don't know why they say suggar in their songs )o
19:03 < MadTux> mnemoc: this was an original saying of ONE singer called Celia Cruz.. from Cuba.. ONLY she used that
19:04 < mnemoc> celia cruz -> cuba -> tropical -> costa ruca -> you
19:04 < mnemoc> then you say "aaaaazucar"
19:04 < MadTux> daja77: atm its foggy and raining .. and a bit "Cold" but it will never be lower than maybe 63 degrees
19:04 < daja77> fahrenheit?
19:04 < MadTux> yeah :)
19:04  * mnemoc kicks ºF users
19:05 < daja77> not used to that scale
19:05  * rxr kicks too
19:05  * MadTux just couldn't resist to do it :)
19:05 < daja77> .oO (happy mike kicking)
19:05 < rxr> °F is one of the most stupid and outdated unit ever ...
19:05 < MadTux> ok ok we don't go lower than lets say 10 C 
19:05 < rxr> 4/5 - 32 or so ...
19:05 < daja77> mnemoc: continue to kick him, that warms you up
19:06 < MadTux> rxr relax :)
19:06  * mnemoc kicks MadTux 
19:06 < rxr> cu later
19:06 < daja77> cu rxr 
19:06 < mnemoc> http://www.google.cl/search?q=63+fahrenheit+to+celsius
19:06 < mnemoc> cu rxr
19:06 < mnemoc> in google we trust
19:06 < daja77> hehe
19:06 < MadTux> mnemoc: u pathetic mortal.. first try to get out of your antrophy hen try to kick like a man
19:07 < mnemoc> :(
19:07 < MadTux> jk :P
19:07 < mnemoc> ik
19:09 < MadTux> have anyone seen holyollie around today?
19:09  * daja77 not
19:10 < MadTux> if anyone see him please let him know that I'm looking for him.
19:10 < daja77> k.
19:13 < mnemoc> yeah!! hot water..... coffee coffee... bias
19:13 < MadTux> thx ;-)
19:13 < MadTux> daja77: damn he is alucinating..
19:13 < daja77> seems so
19:13  * MadTux slaps mnemoc 
19:13 < MadTux> reacciona !
19:13 < mnemoc> :p
19:15 < mnemoc> MadTux: how would you call in english an 'hervidor electrico'?
19:16 < MadTux> electric boiler..
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19:16 < MadTux> or something like that
19:16 < MadTux> hi netrunne1  :)
19:16 < daja77> mnemoc is now known as icecoder
19:17 < mnemoc> :)
19:17 < MadTux> daja77: wouldn't u mean frozencoder?
19:17 < daja77> yeah
19:18 < MadTux> verrückt-eingefroren-coder even :)
19:18 < MadTux> or something like that.. dunno the right words
19:18 < daja77> :)
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19:37 < BoS> hi
19:39 < mnemoc> hi BoS 
19:39 < BoS> hi mnemoc 
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20:44 < rxr> rehi
20:45 < daja77> re rxr 
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20:52 < nzg> moin
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21:43 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner
21:43 < netrunner> re
21:44 < daja77> re netrunner 
21:47 < netrunner> hehehe, how many computers populate my desk? http://waterworld.dyndns.org/~andreas/publicgallery/vaio_small/img_0012-small.jpg
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22:04 < kasc> moin
22:05 < daja77> hi kasc 
22:07 < kasc> hi daja77 
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23:05 < mnemoc> re
23:06 < daja77> wb
23:07 < daja77> are you warmer?
23:07 < mnemoc> yep :)
23:08 < mnemoc> coffee^2+10º outside+extra socks
23:08 < daja77> sigh
23:11 < mnemoc> netrunne1: here?
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