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--- Log opened Sun May 23 00:00:03 2004
--- Day changed Sun May 23 2004
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00:00 < nzg> moin
00:00 < mnemoc> moin nzg 
00:01 < nzg> mnemoc: i added libpcap to the dependency-list of ngrep
00:01 < dsoul> hi nzg 
00:01 < mnemoc> :)
00:02 < nzg> it built fine on my system, but libpcap was already installed
00:03  * dsoul happy my patch is in rock :]
00:03 < mnemoc> it was my fault to scream before thinking :)
00:03 < mnemoc> congrats dsoul 
00:04 < dsoul> :>
00:04 < nzg> mnemoc: no, everywhere in ngrep they say it uses libpcap, so it was my sloppyness not to add [DEP] libpcap
00:04 < dsoul> not added by myself but diffed by me first :P
00:05 < rxr> nzg: adding? Those are not added but automatically generated ...
00:06 < mnemoc> rxr: what's the use of [DEP] of .desc?
00:06 < nzg> put it in the desx?
00:06 < nzg> s/desx/desc
00:06 < mnemoc> nzg: to .cache
00:06 < rxr> ah - that one
00:07 < rxr> mnemoc: sepcify groups of dependencies, or hard add or remove them
00:07 < mnemoc> some day i'll take a look into that code
00:08 < rxr> https://dl.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-handbook/html/rock-handbookse68.html
00:08 < mnemoc> dl :)
00:08 < rxr> yeah - I need better logs - so I split the server further
00:09 < rxr> I can also decide to move server to other locations this way
00:09 < mnemoc> soon you will need a balancer too ;)
00:09 < rxr> but the dl. seperation already happend two months ago or so
00:09 < rxr> mnemoc: hopfully
00:09 < rxr> hope even ...
00:09 < nzg> what can i use [X-FOOBAR] for?
00:10 < mnemoc> to set your own add var
00:10 < mnemoc> odd*
00:10 < nzg> hm
00:11 < rxr> what is odd ?
00:11 < mnemoc> weird?
00:12 < mnemoc> 2n+1 too
00:12 < mnemoc> :)
00:12 < rxr> mnemoc: what are you talking about ?
00:12 < mnemoc> [X-FOOBAR]
00:14 < mnemoc> nzg: [X-FOOBAR] is there to let you set your own field without having problems with the paranoia check
00:15 < nzg> so i can use $FOOBAR in the .conf?
00:15 < rxr> I would need to reread this - but it should be D_FOOBAR then ...
00:15 < rxr> when you just set varioables
00:15 < rxr> [O] FOOBAR="value"
00:16 < rxr> when you need [X-] you know what it is for ;-)
00:16 < mnemoc> =)
00:16 < rxr> for [O] alias [CONF] see
00:16 < rxr> https://dl.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-handbook/html/rock-handbookse68.html
00:17 < rxr> mnemoc: where did you see [X-FOOBAR] ?
00:17 < mnemoc> long time ago in some documentation
00:17 < mnemoc> _long_
00:17 < tfing> https://dl.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-handbook/html/rock-handbookse68.html <- here
00:17 < nzg> https://dl.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-handbook/html/rock-handbookse68.html <-- 2nd paragraph
00:18 < mnemoc> LOL
00:18 < mnemoc> i did it on PKG-DESC-FORMAT ;)
00:22 < nzg> i'm currently working with an .init, but if i tell it to stop when there is no process it does not mock about this
00:22 < nzg> if there are, it kills them, but does not say something about success, just "..... v"
00:23 < nzg> hm
00:23 < mnemoc> .init + m4 = .sh
00:23 < mnemoc> status will give you the face
00:23 < nzg> mnemoc: yes
00:24 < mnemoc> mmm... maybe you are kill the script too :)
00:24 < mnemoc> killall is not a good guy
00:24 < nzg> mmh, seems like that's it...
00:26 < rxr> nzg: yes - when the init file name == program to kill name the script is killed, too
00:26 < nzg> k, thx
00:26 < rxr> when you get a trailign "v" this is an indication of this
00:26 < rxr> take a look into the other scripts
00:26  * nzg bashing his head against the wall
00:26 < rxr> nearly all give the full patch to the binary
00:26 < rxr> D_prefix/bin/food
00:27 < rxr> D_prefix is replaced automatically
00:27 < mnemoc> D_bindir/food :)
00:28  * rxr did not wanted to verify that I added D_bindir to the substitution values once I introduced them ...
00:29 < nzg> k, works
00:29 < mnemoc> i it there but i'm not sure if $root is removed
00:30 < mnemoc> .oO( that thing will be a pain in 'full-cross-builds' age on rock )o
00:30 < rxr> .oO
00:30 < rxr> there is a typo in it
00:30 < rxr> ah - no I was blinded
00:50 < mnemoc> *yawn*
00:50 < nzg> ?
00:51 < mnemoc> i'm sleepy :)
00:53 < nzg> what about going to bed?
00:54 < mnemoc> [18:53:18] <nzg> what about going to bed?
00:54 < nzg> hm
00:54 < mnemoc> :)
00:56 < nzg> [00:53]
00:57 < mnemoc> you are _allowed_ to be sleepy, not me ;)
01:00 < nzg> no, i slept till i think 16:00 or so, i'll get sleepy in four or five hours ;-)
01:00 < mnemoc> :p
01:04 < nzg> damn, i should care more about my cds
01:05 < nzg> somehow all of my divx-discs have disappeared, and the rest is defect/scratched etc..
01:06 < mnemoc> kill your dog
01:06 < nzg> hm, i'll give it a try
01:07 < nzg> # kill -9 dog
01:07 < nzg> -bash: kill: dog: no such pid
01:07 < mnemoc> he is hidding
01:08 < nzg> ups
01:08 < nzg> mityped, but anyway, its not the fault of my dog
01:08 < nzg> i think its again my sloppyness and the fluctuation of cds inside a boarding school
01:10 < rxr> netrunne1: awake ß
01:10 < rxr> ? even
01:10 < rxr> mnemoc: I'm curious what char do you see aver "awake " ?
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01:11 < mnemoc> beta
01:11 < rxr> oh - what locale do you use?
01:12 < mnemoc> en_US
01:12 < rxr> I guess then it is no beta - but the german sepecial charakter used for special cases of two ss
01:12 < rxr> interesting
01:12 < mnemoc> yes, the one of 'street'
01:13 < rxr> oh - yes ;-)
01:13 < mnemoc> =)
01:14 < rxr> two bad it is on the non-shift key with '?'
01:14 < rxr> so always when I press the shift key too softly you are annoyed with it .. :-(
01:14 < mnemoc> i have the single quote there
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01:14 < mnemoc> i don't get annoyed with that stuff :)
01:15 < mnemoc> t<->z is a funny typo :)
01:15 < rxr> ,) like in Motilla ?
01:15 < mnemoc> yeah
01:16 < daja77> hm not bad for gcc-3.4 build
01:16 < daja77> 1245 builds total, 708 completed fine, 82 with errors.
01:16 < mnemoc> generic?
01:16 < daja77> yep
01:16 < mnemoc> good
01:17 < daja77> bbl
01:21 < nzg> mmh, offline again...
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02:27 < rxr> daja77: what happend to the gcc-3.4 fixes danimo wanted to crate on your box ?!> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
02:27 < rxr> oops - hit middle mouse button
02:27 < rxr> maybe time for bed ...
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02:47 < daja77> n8 you all
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02:49 < rxr> oh - hi daja77 
02:49 < rxr> n8
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02:50 < rxr> .oO (why has valentin closed the connection)
02:50 < rxr> strange
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02:57 < rxr> ok - new gcc option
03:19 < rxr> ===> GCC (GNU Compiler Collection) options
03:19 < rxr> [*]    Do profiled bootstrap
03:25 < rxr> ROCKCFG_PKG_GCC3_PROFILED:
03:25 < rxr> Enables profiling during GCC bootstrap and so yields an optimised
03:25 < rxr> compiler. Build speedup might be 5-10%. 
03:26 < rxr> n8 all
03:27 < rxr> damn - what time is it? ?!??!
03:27 < rxr> iBook clock is off
03:28 < rxr> shit fucking gkrellm displays the wong time
03:28 < rxr> system time is ok and ntp synced
03:28 < rxr> damn gnome crap
03:29 < rxr> offset 1.279203 sec
03:29 < rxr> no excuse for gkrellm displaing s.th. _2 hours_ off
03:29  * rxr headshakre
03:29  * rxr killing gkrellm
03:29 < rxr> n8 - finally
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03:40 < nzg> moin
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09:22 < blindy> moin
09:23 < dsoul> hi blindy 
09:39 < kasc> moin
09:47 < dsoul> hi kasc 
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10:59 < blindy> is the new glibc compatible with old binaries?
11:01 < dsoul> i think yes
11:04 < blindy> well, you see..
11:04 < blindy> I just installed this machine
11:04 < blindy> I'm not keen on repeating this process
11:05 < blindy> but I need to upgrade gcc for new wesnoth version
11:05 < dsoul> :>
11:05 < dsoul> i've updated glibc on my machine and everything works
11:05 < blindy> it won't complie with gcc <3.3
11:07 < dsoul> glibc too
11:08 < kasc> glibc works with the new patch
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11:09 < dsoul> or gcc >=3.3.3 :)
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11:10 < blindy> kasc: into a running system?
11:12 < kasc> wasnt brave enough to try that ;)
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11:13 < netrunner> ,pom
11:13 < netrunner> righthand_keyboardoffset--
11:13 < netrunner> moin
11:13 < dsoul> i've tryed and it works :)
11:13 < dsoul> hi netrunner 
11:14 < blindy> ok
11:14 < blindy> o_O
11:14 < blindy> RC: The system is now in runlevel 6
11:14 < blindy> INIT: no more rocesses left in this runlevel
11:14 < blindy> wtf?
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11:31 < netrunner> blindy: well, you have rebooted.
11:32 < blindy> netrunner: no. script-error in /etc/rc.d/init.d/system
11:32 < blindy> bash doesn't like empty else statements
11:41 < kasc> umm... how do i vote for patches using the webfrontend?
11:46 < daja77> moin
11:46 < dsoul> hi daja77 
11:46 < daja77> hi dsoul 
11:47 < netrunner> ibm support request. at the end two checkboxes: [ ] Please use e-mail to send me information about other offerings.
11:47 < netrunner> [ ] Please do not use this data to send me information about other offerings.
11:47 < netrunner> what If I check nothing?
11:47 < daja77> then you get even more spam
11:47 < kasc> netrunner: then they decide ;)
11:50 < netrunner> oh.
11:50  * netrunner asked if he can get the laptop without windows .)
11:52 < blindy> netrunner: believing in wonders?
11:52 < daja77> oh it is possible sometimes
11:53 < daja77> i bought my laptop without windows, and rene anyway *gg*
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12:26 < concode> hi
12:26 < dsoul> hi concode 
12:26 < concode> hi dsoul
12:26 < concode> can you help a bit?
12:27 < concode> I'm right in the middle of replacing a Debian with Rock
12:27 < concode> and I have som problems
12:29 < netrunner> concode: then everybody here will do his best to help you :)
12:29 < concode> very nice
12:30 < concode> at first, I have IMHO simple ting I think I just look into the wrong direction
12:30 < netrunner> solution: turn around.
12:30 < concode> I had my Network set up with stone during the Installation, but it won't work
12:30 < concode> I solved that by 
12:31 < concode> ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.3 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
12:31 < concode> and
12:31 < concode> route add default gw 192.168.0.1
12:31 < concode> but this is lost after reboot
12:32 < concode> what cinfig files do I need to change?
12:32 < concode> s/cinfig/config/
12:33 < concode> ifup sets the eth0 with wrong netmask in general on the installation, but I'm not familiar with ifup
12:34 < concode> so there is a config which is just wrong
12:34 < tfing> concode: modify /etc/network/config or launch stone
12:35 < concode> ok, let me have a second to mount this dev and have a look
12:35 < tfing> you should specify the netmask on the ip line with something like "ip 192.168.0.5/24"
12:35 < netrunner> concode: have you seen the rock-handbook? network config is a chapter there.
12:36 < concode> uh I'm sorry to bother you with FAQ, I'll check this out
12:40 < concode> ok this is in my /etc/network/config
12:40 < concode> interface eth0
12:40 < concode>         ip 192.168.0.100
12:40 < concode>         gw 192.168.0.1
12:40 < concode>         nameserver 192.168.0.
12:40 < concode>         nameserver 192.168.0.1
12:40 < concode> of course
12:40 < concode> well, would it help if I just add
12:41 < concode> subnet 255.255.255.0
12:41 < concode> ?
12:41 < tfing> <tfing> you should specify the netmask on the ip line with something like "ip 192.168.0.5/24"
12:42 < concode> oh, now this becomes clear to me. We are using the more modern and less windows like scheme
12:44 < concode> ok this is recognized as "possibly solved" now, a question. I do have the entry "gw 192.168.0.1" why doesn't it set the default route at all?
12:44 < concode> could it be the script stops, for it did not find the /24 before?
12:45 < tfing> maybe it could not find the gw in its subnet
12:45 < tfing> and so route aborted
12:45 < concode> hm, I'll boot into the system to check it out. cu later, I'll be back in a minute
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12:56 < concode> hi /me is back
12:56 < concode> ;-)
12:56 < concode> ok I can reach internet now directly
12:57 < rxr> does you r ROCK Net config works now?
12:57 < concode> yes kind of
12:57 < concode> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:10:DC:27:9A:22
12:57 < concode>           inet addr:192.168.0.100  Bcast:0.0.0.0  Mask:255.255.255.0
12:57 < concode> I can reach internet hosts (also resolve) but
12:58 < concode> Broadcast address should be 192.168.0.255 not 0.0.0.0
12:58 < concode> this is kinda unclean
12:59 < concode> I wasn't even aware ifconfig could do this
13:00 < concode> this way, the routed would try to route broadcasts to the internet, which would never work, because my router stops this (unintended)
13:00 < concode> very weird configuration
13:04 < concode> well, since it works, I guess there is no problem
13:05 < dsoul> :)
13:05 < concode> now, a more sophisticated question.
13:05 < concode> ;-)
13:05 < concode> I have a minimal target installed
13:06 < concode> and now I have decided to emerge the xfree86 package to step by step set up a very unbloated gui with xfce
13:08 < concode> so I started out with ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg xfree86
13:08 < concode> I guess I should have emerged some libs first, since it doesn't compile
13:09 < concode> OH NO I RAN OUT OF CIGARETTES, I'LL QUICKLY GO GET SOME, cu later
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13:10 < dsoul> addict_concode -dep :)
13:15 -!- addict_concode is now known as concode
13:15 < concode> dsoul, is there also a option, that let's me see the dep before I actually start to download all?
13:17 < dsoul> -dry-dun should
13:17 < dsoul> -dry-run
13:18 < dsoul> concode scripts have --help :)
13:19 < concode> I did that -dep with the joe editor (now you know it I am confused with vi :'-) )  and it started to download bunch a gnome stuff
13:20 < dsoul> strange
13:23 < concode> hope I don't fall into disgrace for asking stupid questions
13:27 < concode> I see from the logs, the -O2 flag is set by default, can I change it so it allways uses -O3? I there some kind of config file? Or can I do this with ./scripts/config ?
13:30 < dsoul> there is an option i configuration
13:30 < concode> with emerge-pkg ?
13:31 < dsoul> you can check deps in .cache files in package directory
13:32 < dsoul> or on https://www.rocklinux.net/packages
13:32 < concode> ok great I also just checked out https://www.rocklinux.net/packages/xfree86.html
13:32 < dsoul> :)
13:32 < concode> thank you
13:32 < concode> well looks like I'll just go for it and play it out
13:33 < dsoul> emerge-pkg also use -cfg option 
13:33 < concode> ok
13:34 < concode> it be a while till I return, /me has to boot to ROCK to play and since I do not install (and dislike bitchx) I won't be in the chat during this
13:34 < concode> thank you all for the great help
13:34 < dsoul> happy playing :)
13:34 < concode> oh dsoul, have you been at 20c3 last year?
13:35 < dsoul> no :/
13:35 < concode> I have spoken with clifford and also someone else,but can't recall his name
13:35 < dsoul> cool :)
13:35 < concode> I know I spoke with espen on 19C3
13:36 < concode> and later tried to convince some people for ROCK by organizing the rootboard-users meet rocklinux chat
13:36 < dsoul> i'll try to be there next time :)
13:36 < concode> a while ago
13:36 < concode> where ya from?
13:37 < dsoul> poland
13:37 < concode> cool
13:37 < concode> that ought to be not too far to Berlin
13:38 < dsoul> yes but still need some time to get there :)
13:38 < concode> I might be back this afternoon to  this chat to proudly tell about my successes
13:38 < concode> ;-) cu l8'r crocodil
13:39 < dsoul> bye concode :)
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14:05 < concode> hi I'm back early
14:06 < dsoul> hi concode :)
14:06 < concode> dsoul, :=
14:06 < concode> :)
14:06 < dsoul> :P
14:06 < concode> I have the output of ./scripts/emerge-pkg -dep -dry-run xfree86 with me
14:06 < concode> Packages scheduled to build:  gnome-libs14 libpng vte psutils ghostscript-fonts galeon freefonts swig paragui linux24benh-header gnome-print10 xfce4-panel gob gnome-media pyorbit flac gconfmm gnome-pilot cdparanoia libglade gnopernicus gcc3-cross libgd libsoup libesmtp rpm openmotif libsdl_net intltool openslp ghostscript xfree86 mergeant gnome-panel gtksourceview hermes bonobo10 gok gnome-desktop guile numpy xvid at-spi libmusicbrainz icc li
14:06 < concode> bosip glib metacity gimp12 alsa glade gtkdoc anjuta gnumeric gccx totem gnome-applets jack libgnomemm bonobo-conf10 libsdl_ttf gconf110 libidl linux24benh-src linux26-header control-center gst-editor lame libsigc++ gtkmm pango esound ruby libgphoto gucharmap libxml svgalib libgtkhtml metatheme gthumb glade10 gdm pilot-link gnome2-user-docs id3lib libmng xscreensaver xfce-mcs-manager wxwindows oaf10 ghex gpl-fonts lock-keys-applet gnome-vfs mj
14:07 < concode> pegtools libsdl_image bug-buddy libgnomedb transfig xmms gimp-print42 cups medusa10 magicpoint eel libgnomeui libmpeg2 sound-juicer gdk-pixbuf10 orbitcpp startup-notification ogg-vorbis libghttp10 gnome-system-monitor atk libsdl ctags orbit10 imlib arts31 smpeg linux24-header-cross aspell libcroco libbonobomm xfree86-cyrillic-fonts docbookx gtkmm12 emacs gnome-vfs10 gle file-roller libmrproject libgtop libart_lgpl23 bitstream-vera-fonts encha
14:07 < concode> nt librsvg libxfce4util gtk+12 fam libzvt libsdl_mixer gjiten libmpeg libungif libsndfile gnome-terminal gnomeicu bsd-games ammonite10 linphone gtk+ postgresql tex-ttf tetex gedit a52dec pygtk freetype1 terminus-font netpbm libmikmod avifile gnome-python libgnomecanvasmm libraw1394 libdvdread gkrellm libxslt gnome-vfsmm libgnomeuimm libgnomecanvas glibc22 libdv gswitchit libbonobouimm gnet glut eog xfig gcc2 libgsf gnome-control-center14 libb
14:07 < concode> onoboui gnome-mag gcc3 gpm soup libxklavier gstreamer libtiff pkgconfig divx4linux gtk+extra10 gnome-speech audiofile dietlibc libgda libgnome libusb gtk-perl10 openldap gst-plugins netspeed_applet ghex12 gconf xaw3d gal evolution libgnomeprint indent orbit2 gtkht
14:07 < concode> this is a lot more than I thought
14:07 < concode> :'-)
14:07 < concode> it even says gcc2
14:08 < dsoul> something had to fsck up :P
14:08 < concode> and xine
14:08 < concode> yea fsck /dev/null
14:09 < concode> any idea?
14:09 < concode> what can I do?
14:10 < daja77> -dep option is broken
14:11 < concode> may it be, this is the list of pgk's dep. on xfree86 instead of pkg's xfree86 dep. on?
14:12 < daja77> huh?
14:12 < concode> sry no wrong guess afaik postgresql does not have dep xfree86
14:13 < daja77> pgaccess is an X app e.g.
14:13 < concode> oh ok
14:15 < dsoul> concode use list from .cache file
14:15 < dsoul> or build whole system :)
14:16 < concode> :)
14:16 < daja77> no
14:16 < rxr> the -dep option is not broken - just some packages [DEP] are
14:16 < daja77> what package you wanted to update
14:16  * concode wanted to install xfree86
14:17 < concode> !=update
14:19 < daja77> rxr: which doesn't make a big difference to the user
14:20 < rxr> daja77: but it is a totally difference assertion
14:20 < daja77> true
14:20 < dsoul> :>
14:20 < concode> same list coems up if I do  ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg -dep -dry-run joe
14:21 < concode> no not entirely the same 
14:21 < concode> Packages scheduled to build:  gnome-libs14 libpng vte psutils ghostscript-fonts coreutils galeon freefonts swig paragui linux24benh-header gnome-print10 cracklib xfce4-panel gob gnome-media pyorbit flac gconfmm gnome-pilot cdparanoia libglade gnopernicus psmisc gcc3-cross autoconf miscfiles liblockfile man ed libgd libsoup libesmtp bdb41 rpm make openmotif libsdl_net intltool openslp bdb42 ghostscript gmp xfree86 mergeant gnome-panel gtksourc
14:21 < concode> eview hermes bonobo10 gok automake gnome-desktop guile numpy findutils nasm xvid binutils at-spi libmusicbrainz icc linux24-header diffutils libosip glib zip metacity mysql gimp12 alsa glade gtkdoc anjuta gnumeric gccx totem gnome-applets gawk gettext jack libgnomemm bonobo-conf10 libsdl_ttf file gconf110 libidl linux24benh-src linux26-header control-center gst-editor lame libsigc++ ncurses gtkmm pango esound ruby readline sysfiles libgphoto 
14:21 < concode> gucharmap libxml svgalib linux24-src libgtkhtml metatheme gthumb glade10 00-dirtree gdm pilot-link gnome2-user-docs flex id3lib libmng net-tools xscreensaver xfce-mcs-manager wxwindows oaf10 ghex gpl-fonts lock-keys-applet expat gnome-vfs gzip mjpegtools libsdl_image bug-buddy libgnomedb transfig xmms gimp-print42 cups curl medusa10 magicpoint eel libgnomeui apache libmpeg2 sound-juicer gdk-pixbuf10 patch orbitcpp startup-notification ogg-vor
14:21 < concode> bis libghttp10 gnome-system-monitor atk libsdl ctags sed orbit10 imlib arts31 smpeg linux24-header-cross aspell libcroco libbonobomm xfree86-cyrillic-fonts docbookx acl gtkmm12 emacs bc gnome-vfs10 gle file-roller libmrproject popt grep libgtop libart_lgpl23 bitstream-vera-fonts netkit-base enchant libelf librsvg libxfce4util gtk+12 fam texinfo libzvt libsdl_mixer gjiten libmpeg libungif bzip2 libsndfile gnome-terminal gnomeicu bsd-games ammo
14:21 < concode> nite10 linphone isdn4k-utils gtk+ gcc33 postgresql tex-ttf tcp_wrappers tetex gedit bdb33 a52dec pygtk freetype1 terminus-font netpbm libmikmod avifile gnome-python groff libgnomecanvasmm attr linux26-src libraw1394 libdvdread gkrellm libxslt gnome-vfsmm libgnomeu
14:22 < concode> this seams broken too, or do I need linphone for the joe editor?? :_) lol
14:22 < daja77> could you please stop flooding the chan
14:22 < concode> ok ary
14:22 < dsoul> :P
14:22 < concode> s/ary/sry/
14:23 < concode> I hoped this would be helpful
14:24 < daja77> no, and not twice
14:26 < concode> ok
14:26 < concode> but not been twice the same (for the record) once been from xfree86 and the other from joe editor
14:28 < concode> so what can I do now?
14:28 < daja77> trying to emerge with -dep
14:29 < concode> what I showed first was the output of "./scripts/emerge-pkg -dep -dry-run xfree86"
14:30 < concode> basically, (what you asked me to do) = (what I did)
14:32 < daja77> no
14:32 < owl> moin
14:32 < concode> I do not particulary dislike any of these packages, but the outcome goes into a different direction then my aim
14:32 < concode> moin owl
14:33 < concode> daja77, shall I "./scripts/emerge-pkg -dep xfree86" then?
14:33 < owl> hi concode 
14:33 < daja77> no leave the -dep out
14:34 < rxr> but then he will not have als prerequisits
14:34 < concode> I have done this in the first place, but it stoped compiling at some point
14:34 < owl> someone could please explain me how i can access a SD-card from panasonic? i have a tevion 6-in-1 card reader, and my dad won't give me the usb-cable for the camera... so i'm forced to use his card-reader-writer... but i just see /dev/scsci/.../disc and generic. no partition........ *puke*
14:36 < daja77> damn scanner
14:36 < owl> daja77: ?
14:37 < concode> ok, daja77 I'll try this again, and post the last three lines of output, when I get back. maybe there is a different problem
14:37 < rxr> wow - a profiledbootstraped gcc w/ precompiled STL is bleedingly fast
14:37 < concode> thanks for the halp allready :-)
14:38 < daja77> rxr: my impression is that compiling with gcc-3.4 is faster
14:38 < owl> and: an additional question - what might be defect, if your system reboots sometimes - even after powering on the machine and waiting 2 - 3 minutes without doing anything?
14:38 < rxr> daja77: yes
14:38 < concode> s/halp/help (I really should concentrate more on typing)
14:38 < rxr> daja77: and with my new option for to performed a profiled bootstrap gcc becomes even faster
14:39 < rxr> submaster patch later when I fixed another thin in gcc
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14:40 < daja77> hail and snow >_<
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14:45 < BoS> re
14:57 < rxr> hi BoS 
14:58 < BoS> hi rxr
14:58 < BoS> alles ok?
14:59 < rxr> oh - jo
14:59 < rxr> thanks - and for you?
14:59 < BoS> nice to hear - so lot
15:00 < BoS> but the imac install dosn't work with the rock-2 iso error im stage2
15:00 < rxr> ouhm :-(
15:00 < BoS> yeah
15:00 < rxr> I have no time now - will collect my girllfriend @ the airport soon, so'll be off
15:01 < rxr> I have a new 2.0.1 ISO hopefully finished tomorrow on my rs/6k
15:01 < rxr> you could try this one and I could immediately fix things when problems still exist for you
15:01 < daja77> .oO (collect *gg*)
15:01 < BoS> on this box works fine: mandrake, yellow dog and unstable debilian
15:02 < BoS> <--/ download the isos, if they are available on rock-server
15:03 < rxr> maybe cu later -> /me off
15:04 < BoS> cu
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16:00 < concode> hi again
16:00 < concode> == 05/23/04 13:45:59 =[9]=> Aborted building package xfree86.
16:00 < concode> I suppose, I still not have xfree86
16:03 < concode> can anyone help?
16:04 < tfing> it would be easier if we could see your /var/adm/logs/9-xfree.err
16:04 < concode> hm just a mom
16:06 < concode> ok found it, I'll better not flood the chan with it
16:06 < concode> what $n of "tail -n $n 9-xfree86.err" would you like
16:07 < tfing> you can put it on the web ?
16:07 < concode> yes
16:07 < concode> just a mom
16:10 < concode> https://www.dzafez.de/9-xfree86.err.gz
16:11 < concode> gunzipped it is 6MB
16:11 < concode> this way its just 292 KB
16:16 < tfing> you are missing libpng i would say
16:17 < concode> so if I first emerge the libpng and then emerge xfree86 I should do fine?
16:17 < tfing> it should
16:17 < concode> well I shall do so. thank you
16:18 < concode> cu later
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17:04 < Dark_Moox> https://www.idpz.net/DarkMoox/Maya/render.dtc
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17:56 < tfing> rxr: is an update of the .cache files in trunk planned ?
18:14 < fake> tfing: often requested, at least ;)
18:15 < tfing> hmm fake, as you are here, a bluez dev told me that bluez-sdp and bluez-pan were deprecated and upgrading to bluez-{libs,utils}-2.7 was recommended
18:15 < fake> huh?
18:16 < fake> tfing: i see it (bluez.org)
18:17 < tfing> i had asked about a bluetooth problem i had with sdptool and that's what he told me
18:29 < owl> hi fake !
18:29 < owl> fake: do you know a copy-shop in IN or ND or EI who prints from file?
18:33 < fake> owl:yes
18:34 < owl> wee! where? and how much does it cost / page ?
18:40 < fake> tfing: patch in submaster
18:40 < fake> owl: below the 'swept away'
18:40 < owl> hm. k. thx. and the price?
18:40 < fake> no idea
18:40 < owl> and: how is it called?
18:40 < fake> esden once printed a .ps file there
18:41 < fake> no idea either, but it's the only copy shop below the swept away ;)
18:41 < owl> hehe. k. then ;) thx. 
18:41 < fake> and across the road of ganghofer bookstore
18:42 < owl> yup. hmmm. and - maybe - if they print front and backside?
18:44 < fake> tfing: and discarded. forgot to svn add a file.
18:45 < fake> owl: of course
18:45 < fake> owl: if i am not completely mistaken
18:48 < owl> cool. thx :)))
19:17 < owl> blindy: ?
19:22 < owl> then not. adios
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19:42 < nookie_> rxr: Are you there?
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20:40  * blindy now running 2.6.6 on his laptop
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21:25 < daja77> this scummvm compile error is redicilous
21:27 < blindy> why?
21:28 -!- esden|bbl is now known as esden
21:28 < daja77> if you close a cpp function with }; <- this is an error now which stops the build
21:29 < daja77> with gcc-3.4
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21:42 < tcr> moin freak
21:42 < blindy> oh
21:42 < Freak> hi again
21:46 < daja77> hi Freak!
21:50 < Freak> hey daja77
21:50 < Freak> who of you guys is coming to LinuxTag?
21:50 < Freak> and why hasn't anyone been to GulaschProgrammierNacht3?
21:50 < daja77> uh when is it
21:50 < Freak> 23.-26.6. (Wed-Sat)
21:51 < daja77> i'd like to, just don't know where to stay atm
21:52 < blindy> Freak: Gulasch...what?
21:52 < daja77> Freak: can't be everywhere
21:52 < Freak> :)
21:53 < Freak> https://www.entropia.de/gulasch/
21:53 < daja77> <- was on the easterhegg this year
21:54 < Freak> ic
21:54 < tcr> Freak's crossing through the country? 
21:54 < Freak> I am what?
21:55 < tcr> Visiting every event
21:55 < Freak> why?
21:55 < Freak> they're all being held in Karlsruhe :)
21:55 < daja77> every? no he missed many ^^
21:55 < Freak> ;P
21:55 < tcr> daja77, :P Not sure if chemnitzer linuxtage could be called an event 
21:56 < daja77> tcr: why not?
21:56 < daja77> more ppl than on easterhegg e.g.
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21:56 < Freak> sheesh. I must go prepare my "animal physiology" foo
21:56 < tcr> Not being serious :) Just wanted to tease you [wasn't you from chemnitz?]
21:57 < daja77> i am
21:57  * blindy --> bed
21:57  * Freak --> couch;bed
21:57 < Freak> bye
21:59 < tcr> Gn8
21:59 < daja77> cu Freak 
22:00 < Freak> nn
22:01  * tcr is eating Milka Kuhflecken Schokolade
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22:01 < StefanG> ihh :)
22:07 < tcr> Why that?
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22:13 < StefanG> looks white and brown :)
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23:22 < link_> may anyone spend some time with me, i need some help with HORDE/IMP !!  i don't get the ssl/imap login to work. where do i have to begin? help?
23:27 < dsoul> sorry i'm not using it :)
23:30 < dsoul> maybe https://www.horde.org/imp/
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23:36 < esden> hi all
23:36 < daja77> hi esden 
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23:39 < dsoul> hi esden 
23:51 < daja77> >_<
23:51 < daja77> I hate it
23:54 < dsoul> what?
23:54 < netrunner> what?
23:55 < daja77> to compile rocklinux with gcc-3.4
23:55 < netrunner> why? works fine except for some packages
23:57 < daja77> I made a compile fix for scummvm, and reran Build-target -job blah 
23:57 < daja77> now I get this 
23:57 < daja77> !>                  from base/main.cpp:137:
23:57 < daja77> !> /usr/include/bits/sigthread.h:32: error: expected `,' or ..
23:57 < daja77> !> /usr/include/bits/sigthread.h:36: error: `pthread_t' was ..
23:57 < daja77> !> /usr/include/bits/sigthread.h:36: error: expected primar ..
23:57 < daja77> !> /usr/include/bits/sigthread.h:36: error: initializer exp ..
23:57 < daja77> !> /usr/include/bits/sigthread.h:36: error: expected `,' or ..
23:58 < daja77> it compiled well in debug.sh before >_<
23:59 < netrunner> I have never used the debug.sh since I always build in tempfs :)
23:59  * netrunner doing a test-build of scummvm
23:59 < daja77> netrunner: wait
23:59 < daja77> i could sm send my patch first?
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