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--- Log opened Tue May 25 00:00:37 2004
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01:05 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux 2.0.0 released! https://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html
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01:05 -!- [freenode-info] why register and identify?  your IRC nick is how people know you.  https://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
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01:13 < rxr> rehi
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01:27 < owl> moin
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04:23 < fake> moin
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08:37 < netrunner> moin
08:37 < blindy> moin moin
08:38  * blindy committing LVP 0.4.1 to SM
08:38 < dsoul> hi netrunner 
08:40 < dsoul> hi blindy :)
08:42 < blindy> moin dsoul 
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09:58 < esden> morning everyone
09:59 < daja77> hi esden 
09:59 < esden> hi daja77 
10:01 < link_> hi daja77 
10:01 < blindy> moin esden 
10:01 < blindy> moin daja77, link_ 
10:01 < link_> can anyone help me with horde/imp? i cannot login, it sais, the password or name is wrong, but if i connect with a client, it works.
10:02 < esden> hi blindy!!!
10:02 < esden> *yawn*
10:02 < blindy> yawn, indeed
10:05 < link_> what a nice da
10:05 < link_> y
10:05 < link_> there is no cloud on the sky
10:05 < blindy> and I'm at work on Level -1 >_<
10:06 < link_> blindy: oh no :(
10:12 < esden> ok I am off for uni
10:12 < esden> cu guys
10:12 < daja77> cu esden 
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11:03 < rxr> automatically generated ChangeLog:
11:03 < rxr> https://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/ChangeLog-rock-linux
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11:05 < daja77> hm sure about that svn in the url?
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11:06 < daja77> rxr: btw got the linux24 crosscompiled in sandbox, without modules atm
11:08 < daja77> ah k. got the changelog, nice
11:09 < rxr> still has some minor corruptions here and there (the ChangeLog)
11:09 < rxr> but this is already much magic guessing ... (to unify all the varous formats used)
11:10 < rxr> I continue to improve it during rainy afternoons ...
11:11 < daja77> two remarks on hppa kernels
11:12 < daja77> first, we'd a 700-800k patch for it to get it compiled from www.parisc-linux.org
11:12 < blindy> rxr: enforce a standard on commit messages in SM-patches and refuse to apply non-conforming patches
11:12 < daja77> second, I had to fix more crap on the gcc-3.4 thing (problems with inline functions) for linux24
11:13 < rxr> blindy: I always unified them - cliffor's smap just imports random garbage
11:13 < rxr> daja77: do you already booted the kernel =
11:13 < rxr> ? even
11:13 < daja77> no
11:14 < blindy> rxr: that's why I think you should vote - on those patches to show clifford that there's something wrong
11:14 < daja77> still have non compiling modules to be fixed/thrown out before
11:21 < blindy> yet another user asking for DVD images :)
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11:22 < daja77> blindy: btw with cdlabelgen 3.00 you can create labels fo dvds too
11:22 < blindy> daja77: nice. Now I just need a printer :)
11:22 < daja77> :D
11:22 < blindy> I doubt that my Epson P20 is capable of graphic ;)
11:22 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner
11:22 < blindy> wb netrunner 
11:24 < netrunner> what is the difference to a label on a dvd?
11:26 < blindy> diff -u menu.conf menu.conf_dvd
11:26 < blindy> -entry("New CD-Label");
11:26 < blindy> +entry("Create a CD-Label");
11:26 < blindy> +entry("Create a DVD-Label");
11:26 < daja77> netrunner: the size
11:26 < blindy> +map(menu2, menu1):
11:27 < blindy> daja77: aren't they the same size?
11:28 < netrunner> Oh, maybe they create booklets for the big boxes ... that aren't neccessarily for dvd's ;)
11:28 < daja77> yep
11:29 < blindy> brb
11:29 < blindy> LARTing
11:29 < daja77> again?
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11:58 < blindy> daja77: well, it's my job here at AUDI :)
12:41 < rxr> LARTing should be what?
12:43 < blindy> rxr: don't know what a LART is?
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12:56 < blindy> rxr: a Luser Alignment Readjustment Tool
12:57  * blindy switching a lusers monitor
12:57 < blindy> bbl
13:39 < blindy> back
13:59 < netrunne1> admmeieran@nccw0393 ~
13:59 < netrunne1> $ ssh pD9E8CBA8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de -l andreas
13:59 < netrunne1> admmeieran@nccw0393 ~
13:59 < netrunne1> $ 
13:59 < netrunne1> admmeieran@nccw039
13:59 < netrunne1> admmeieran@nccw0393 ~
13:59 < netrunne1> $ 3 ~
13:59 < netrunne1> admmeieran@nccw0393 ~
13:59 < netrunne1> bash: admmeieran@nccw0393: command not found
13:59 < netrunne1> admmeieran@nccw0393 ~
13:59 < netrunne1>  ROCK Linux 2.0.0 released! https://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html                
13:59 < netrunne1> [11:36] [ blindy   ] [ Freak   ] [ lowy     ] [ netrunner] [ SMP  ] [ valentin]
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13:59 < netrunne1> [11:36] [ dsoul    ] [ jsaw    ] [ mistik1  ] [ owl      ] [ tfing]
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13:59 < netrunne1> [11:36] [ fake     ] [ link_   ] [ netrunne1] [ rxr      ] [ togg ]
13:59 < netrunne1> sorry :(
14:00 < tfing> netrunne1: latest irssi has a protection against accidental paste
14:03 < netrunne1> maybe it does not work through windows->cygwin->xterm->ssh->transconnect->screen->irssi ...
14:03 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner
14:04 < tfing> latest = cvs snapshot, not 0.8.9
14:17 < luckz> uhm, yes?
14:20 < blindy> tfing: 0.8.9 has it, too
14:20 < tfing> wasn't sure
14:20 < blindy> and it does work, if the connection is fast enough :)
14:21 < blindy> netrunner: check /set flood
14:22 < daja77> re
14:23 < netrunner> blindy: flood_max_msgs=4 ... 
14:23 < blindy> netrunner: timecheck?
14:26  * blindy away, changing a user's IP address
14:28 < netrunner> blindy: 8
14:38 < blindy> re
14:38 < blindy> netrunner: hmm... should work
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15:07 < nzg> moin
15:07 < daja77> hi nzg 
15:08 < dsoul> hi nzg 
15:08 < nzg> moin daja77,dsoul
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16:05 < esden> hi all
16:08 < dsoul> hi esden
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16:08 < esden> hi dsoul 
16:09 < daja77> hi esden 
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16:37 < rxr> hm - wired tfh admins still did not reply ...
16:38 < daja77> they hate you
16:38 < tcr> moin all
16:38 < daja77> you want them to wor
16:38 < daja77> k
16:49 < rxr> no I start to hate them - they just do not want to share bandwidth
16:50 < rxr> I do not want them to work - they can sit around if the like - they just do not need to firewall some ports ...
16:53 < rxr> ok - next ChangeLog generation revision online
16:53 < rxr> the diff to the previous output it 30kB - 242 lines changed
16:54 < tfing> no more missing letters :)
16:55 < rxr> have notived missing ones?
16:55 < rxr> noticed even
16:55 < rxr> and are those gone now? If not please tell me an example ;-)
16:55 < mnemoc> moin
16:55 < daja77> unfortunatly you cannot see the dates in the changelog
16:56 < daja77> hi mnemoc 
16:56 < mnemoc> hi daja77, rxr, tfing, tcr
16:56 < tfing> rxr: vrsion
16:56 < tfing> kasc: * vrsion update for hexxagon
16:56 < tfing> hi mnemoc 
16:56 < tcr> hey mnemoc. Everything's ok?
16:56 < rxr> ah - jups 
16:56 < rxr> more
16:56 < rxr> ?
16:56 < tfing>  dn't touch cond. descfiles in Create-DescPatch
16:57 < tfing> in a Clifford one
16:58 < mnemoc> tcr: fine ;)... and you?
16:59 -!- lowy is now known as LowLander
16:59 < mnemoc> rxr: can you apply a massive CopyPatch to 2.0 and trunk?
17:00 < rxr> just for the 2004 of it?
17:00 < rxr> no - this will rebuild too much on automated rebuild installations
17:00 < rxr> the files get a CopyPatch when touched
17:01 < rxr> tfing: fixed
17:01 < tcr> mnemoc, Generally, allright.. I've finally got around watching the video lectures of SICP which are great
17:01 < mnemoc> rxr: CopyPath when touched? is that automatized?
17:02 < mnemoc> tcr: en or de?
17:02 < rxr> mnemoc: no - sadly not
17:02 < rxr> tfing: fixed now
17:03 < rxr> I found another thing that might be easiy to tweak - maybe I do this
17:03 < rxr> tfing: do you found other majors? or is it overall allright now? ,)
17:03 < tfing> rxr: look for bootsplash in the changelog, my name appears as an item
17:03 < tfing> instead of as an author
17:05 < tfing> and same in this :
17:05 < tcr> tcr: en
17:05 < tfing> Clifford Wolf:
17:05 < tfing>      * alejandro Mery
17:05 < tfing>      * openldap (2.1.28)
17:05 < tfing> except that, it seems ok
17:05 < mnemoc> uhm?
17:06 < mnemoc> 2.1.30
17:06 < mnemoc> what is that?
17:06 < tfing> mnemoc: https://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/ChangeLog-rock-linux
17:06 < rxr> tfing: yes - this is what I meant I would like to tweak shortly
17:06 < tfing> ok
17:06 < rxr> in theory I handle those - in pratice there seem to be some odd variants of this ...
17:07 < rxr> mnemoc: yep - our cool new pretty-fied auto-generated ChangeLog ...
17:08 < rxr> ah - yes - this is a third variant not easy to differentiate
17:08 < rxr> maybe I should have trained a neuronal net for this task
17:09 < rxr> the commit messages differ so much ...
17:11 < mnemoc> rxr: what about a 'date'?
17:12 < tfing> mnemoc: he already has a gf
17:12 < tfing> :)
17:12 < mnemoc> o_O
17:12 < tfing> you asked him for a date ;)
17:12 < mnemoc> i know :\
17:27 < rxr> perl is strange
17:27 < rxr> most of the time writing the parser I tracked perl oddities ...
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17:28  * rxr should either do perl more often than once-in-a-year or never use it again ...
17:28 < tfing> rxr: do you plan to make a (separate) html version ?
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17:29 < rxr> oehm - not yet
17:33 < mnemoc> rxr: will you accept my date? ;)
17:34 < daja77> mnemoc: you want to date rxr?
17:34 < mnemoc> according to tfing, i want
17:35 < daja77> hm dating a married man, *shrug*
17:36 < dsoul> anybody using xfs?
17:36 < mnemoc> :p ... actually i wanted to add a 'date' to the events of the Changelog and merge stuff of the same author, but if he pay me the trip i whould gladly date him ... a walk, tea, beer, the sky.... who knows ;-)
17:37 < daja77> :D
17:38 < rxr> ok
17:38 < SMP> dsoul: sure
17:38 < rxr> next ChangeLog iteration
17:39 < dsoul> i'm asking becouse xfs support is still broken on bootdisk target
17:39 < SMP> how so?
17:39 < rxr> mnemoc: oh - cool I take the walk, visiting Chile when I have a bit more money to spare would be cool
17:40 < mnemoc> you are welcome
17:40 < dsoul> SMP xfs_utilies need gettext to compile
17:41 < rxr> tfing: mostly now only some stray unindent lines are left - that now also get a author line collon ...
17:41 < rxr> tfing: I fix those in the next iteration
17:41 < rxr> mnemoc: including grouping by date
17:41 < dsoul> but in bootdisk target is set disable_nls with turns off permanently compilation of gettext
17:46 < mnemoc> rxr: can i ask svn for the conflicts i have to resolve?
17:46 < rxr> mnemoc: before the update ?
17:46 < mnemoc> before the commit, after a sync
17:47 < mnemoc> i forgot to pipe the output to a file :\
17:47 < tfing> svn diff
17:48 < tfing> hmm, that's before the sync, not after, sorry
17:48 < rxr> mnemoc: svn status tells you
17:49 < mnemoc> svn status is nice
18:00 < netrunne1> re
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18:01 < daja77> >_<
18:01 < mnemoc> netrunner!
18:02 < mnemoc> netrunner: the one of your gf is de too?
18:12 < rxr> ok - new ChangeLog
18:13 < rxr> now grouping per author per date would be nice ...
18:14 < rxr> but grouping per date will come much later (say some2many days) this would need some deeper rewrite ...
18:14 < mnemoc> i see revision, not grouping by author :\
18:15 < rxr> and dates
18:15 < mnemoc> *) date ... yes, but the grouping by author? ;)
18:15 < rxr> see comment above - grouping after sparc and PowerPC IOSs of 2.0.1 ...
18:15 < rxr> and some 2.0.2 patch applying
18:16 < rxr> mnemoc: fro grouping I need to rewrite it a bit ...
18:16 < mnemoc> "now grouping per author" <-- i missunderstood that
18:16 < rxr> the next rainy afternoon, ok? ;-)
18:16 < mnemoc> ok :)
18:16 < rxr> yeah - ater that came "would be nice"
18:16 < rxr> ,)
18:16 < tfing> the sunny season is coming
18:16 < mnemoc> rxr: consider bdb and crontab fixes for 2.0.2
18:16 < rxr> I now tune it a bit to indent gsmp better and then I switch to more critical stuff
18:17 < rxr> yep
18:17 < rxr> https://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/ChangeLog-gsmp
18:17 < rxr> ^- this one still sucks a bit ..
18:17 < rxr> but like a one character change in some regex
18:17 < daja77> tfing: sure about that?
18:19 < tfing> daja77: at least here :) i may be wrong about germany's weather
18:20 < rxr> at least the last weeks it has been rather clouded and rany - at least here in Berlin ...
18:21 < daja77> tfing: where is your here atm? :D
18:22 < netrunner> mnemoc: yup
18:22 < mnemoc> damn
18:22 < netrunner> mnemoc: 'seen the url I privmsg'ed you?
18:22 < mnemoc> yep
18:23 < mnemoc> did u asked about paypal?
18:23 < tfing> daja77: france
18:24 < netrunner> I can register myself, costs me nothing. you'd probably pay 2,5% inter-currency fee
18:24 < tfing> middle west
18:25 < mnemoc> (payment+shipping)*1.025 ...damn... i really liked that machine... you can't find those here 
18:26 < daja77> ic
18:27 < mnemoc> i have a very decent winter day here... 10ºC with low wind and no rain ;)
18:37 < rxr> ChangeLog should be further fixed now
18:40 < rxr> next iteration - some more tiny improvements
18:43 < rxr> those rock-linux commti texts drive me crasz
18:43 < rxr> this inconsistent crap
18:44 < daja77> well we had no style for that
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18:49 < demian> hi
18:50 < rxr> demian: I often RFC'ed on the list
18:50 < rxr> we had a ChangeLog style for many years
18:50 < daja77> oh
18:50 < rxr> just that even Clifford is too lazy to tune smap commit junk nowadays ...
18:51 < rxr> in the past he was picky about that - but with his holy submaster he just hits the smap button
18:51 < rxr> next iteration
18:51 < rxr> even more details tuned (fixed)
18:51 < daja77> speaking of style, do we plan to discuss and write a roadmap and/or project goals or sth like that
18:52 < rxr> a yes I wanted to do this ...
18:52  * rxr needs a time-machine
18:52 < daja77> cool
18:52 < daja77> :)
18:52 < rxr> oh - I see at least two mis-matchings in ChaneLog-gsmp ... :-(
18:52 < daja77> iirc I once discarded a patch just because of the messed up commit msg
18:55 < rxr> shit - due too all the rock-linux magic in the script I now have extreme problems getting less messy ones like gsmp right ...
18:58 < daja77> hppa-unknown-linux-gnu-nm vmlinux | grep -v '\(compiled\)\|\(\.o$\)\|\( [aUw] \)\|\(\.\.ng$\)\|\(LASH[RL]DI\)' | sort > System.map
18:58 < daja77> ERROR: Please install palo first (apt-get install palo)
18:58 < daja77> >_<
18:58 < daja77> or build it from source and install it somewhere in your $PATH
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19:01 < demian> damnit.. i dunt used to come often and i am still in the irclog and stats ..https://www.rocklinux.net/people/esden/ircstat/ ... 
19:01 < SWLChris> hi
19:01 < daja77> hi SWLChris 
19:02 < rxr> esden: those are outdated
19:02 < SWLChris> hi  daja
19:02 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux.net/irclog/
19:02 < rxr> ^- are the recent ones
19:02 < rxr> esden: could you find a moment to delete your old ones and rsync?
19:02 < SWLChris> rxr just the person I was looking for
19:03 < demian> oh i see :p
19:03 < rxr> esden: to lesser confuse people  ;-)
19:03 < SWLChris> nothing bad tho
19:03 < daja77> rxr: could you switch to some nicer color perhaps?
19:03 < demian> i was costumed witho watch log in the esden dir..
19:03 < rxr> daja77: propose soem in mail so I do not forget
19:03 < rxr> SWLChris: ;-)
19:03 < daja77> ok 
19:04 < blindy> re
19:04 < SWLChris> was  going thru  the net looking for info on compiling kahakai somehow found a log from this server 
19:04 < SWLChris> I got as far as  configuring then it crapped out on the boost headers not found
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19:05 < rxr> SWLChris: that is fairly easiy ;-) Install boost ;-)
19:05 < SWLChris> even tho I have a boost rpm already installed
19:05 < rxr> maybe some boost-devel?
19:05 < daja77> perhaps you need a boost-devel package?
19:05 < SWLChris> can't find one
19:05 < SWLChris> can find jam and boost itself
19:05 < rxr> SWLChris: then just deflate the headers in some include dir ...
19:06 < rxr> www.boost.ogr
19:06 < rxr> org even
19:06 < rxr> https://www.boost.org
19:06 < SWLChris> that the same thing as boost build?
19:06 < SWLChris> didn't get that one
19:07 < rxr> what we doo with boost is here:
19:07 < rxr> https://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-linux/trunk/package/rene/boost/
19:07 < rxr> read the .desc and .conf
19:07 < rxr> boost-jam goes here: https://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-linux/trunk/package/rene/boost-jam/
19:07 < rxr> .desc and .conf reading applies here, too
19:08 < rxr> just use those info and place them on your box manually if you do not find a prebuild rpm ...
19:09 < SWLChris> is trying to figure out where it installed the rpm
19:09 < daja77> rpm -ql boost
19:09 < SWLChris> ty
19:10 < rxr> SWLChris: you try to find something about rpm in the files listed above ?
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19:11 < SWLChris> ok gimme a sec to type this out eterm isn't lettingme copy  out what it said
19:11 < MadTux> yo.
19:11 < daja77> SWLChris: rpm -ql|grep *h
19:11 < SWLChris> checking boost/shared_ptr.hpp usability...no
19:12 < SWLChris> shared ptr  presence ..no
19:12 < demian> MadTux
19:12 < SWLChris> shared ptr hpp no
19:12 < MadTux> yo d3bian.
19:12 < daja77> waah no please do not paste everything
19:12 < mnemoc> MadTux!
19:12 < SWLChris> not pasting just had those 3 lines
19:12 < daja77> k.
19:12 < MadTux> mn3m0cy!
19:13 < MadTux> daja77: freaing out?
19:13 < demian> darrg
19:13 < daja77> MadTux: huh?
19:13 < MadTux> d3bian see query
19:13 < SWLChris> rpm ql gives me /usr/lib/libboost and about 15 files none of em have a shared dir
19:14 < daja77> MadTux: there was somebody here some days ago who flooded the chan
19:14 < MadTux> daja77: well I know of rock devs flooding the chan..
19:15 < MadTux> but hey.. just like u i hate it when someone floods a chan.
19:15 < MadTux> :)
19:15 < daja77> bah these old stores :)
19:15 < daja77> stories
19:16 < rxr> SWLChris: you try to find something about rpm in the .conf/.desc files listed above ?
19:16 < SWLChris> tryin to figure out where fc1 stuck em
19:17 < blindy> o_O
19:17 < blindy> 1-binutils fails with "Broken Pipe" ???
19:17 < SWLChris> this is the fun I get to have when I'm sick of gnome and kde
19:17 < MadTux> hi blindy
19:18 < daja77> SWLChris: you coudl use fluxbox and stuff instead
19:18 < blindy> hi MadTux 
19:19 < SWLChris> has fluxbox and older waimea
19:19 < daja77> ic
19:19 < SWLChris> and xfce
19:19 < SWLChris> wanted to try this kahakai
19:19 < SWLChris> has older version -0.5 something but -.6.2 won't  compile
19:20 < rxr> SWLChris: maybe fc1 does not even contain those
19:20 < rxr> SWLChris: why do you not just start installing those few missing headers manually
19:20 < SWLChris> no I had to swipe rpms from fc1 site
19:20 < daja77> cu later
19:20  * rxr announced the next ChangeLog iteration
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19:21 < SWLChris> dunno  how to install headers not that  long here using  linux
19:21 < daja77> just cp them
19:23 < SWLChris> had this pc here for about  year and half now so still learning a lot
19:23 < demian> got to go..
19:23 < demian> bye
19:23 < demian> !
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19:24 < SWLChris> before then was on win98SE aka Win98 sucky edition
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19:33 < rxr> SWLChris: good to head that you enjoy learning new stuff ;)
19:36 < mnemoc> netrunner: damn... i can't stop thinking in that
19:40  * rxr next ChangeLog iteration (++ even more magic)
19:45 < netrunner> https://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4133852854
19:45  * netrunner was forced to learn vbscript today.
19:49 < mnemoc> why?
19:52 < netrunner> because the colleague who ordered a script from me said he only knew vbscript and wanted to be able to modify it later 
19:53 < mnemoc> oh
19:54 < blindy> netrunner: answer: learn a programming language
19:56  * rxr next ChangeLog iteration (++ even more magic)
19:58 < netrunner> blindy: then I had to learn how to get a new job ;)
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20:38  * blindy gone
20:42 < esden> babababa ... nice ... I really have to admit that I like ruby ;)
20:44 < esden> as the REXML developer wrote "Can't you feel the peace and contentment in this block of code? Ruby is the language Buddha would have programmed in."
20:44 < esden> very nice expression
20:53 < netrunner> *g* nice lyrics: "... I've been checking out - looking for a reason"
21:16 < netrunner>  https://c4h8o3.free.fr/yop.wmv
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22:09 < jsaw> re
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22:22  * esden off for home
22:22 < esden> cu guys
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22:25 < netrunner> what was the name of the tool that shows you all properties of a X window
22:25 < netrunner> ?
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22:27 < jsaw> xwininfo
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23:10 < mnemoc> what's mine -y?
23:10 < tfing> to check packages ?
23:11 < mnemoc> uhm... why clifford's `head` rejects to use -<n>? my coreutils-5.0 is happy with this non-posix behavior
23:11 < mnemoc> tfing: check if installed?
23:11 < tfing> check if there are modified files
23:12 < mnemoc> thanks
23:12 < tfing> i didn't know either, i just tried as a user :)
23:22 < mnemoc> :)
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23:59 < owl> moin
23:59 < mnemoc> owlie!
23:59 < owl> i whish you a nice time. i will be in vacatation for the next 2 weeks. maybe will be online sometimes, but very selbdom i guess. 
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