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--- Log opened Fri May 28 00:00:08 2004 --- Day changed Fri May 28 2004 00:00 < rxr> -XP-2500 00:01 * rxr building -Os -mcpu=750 and rerun on the iBook 00:01 < SMP> :-> 00:04 < SMP> sign verify sign/s verify/s 00:04 < SMP> rsa 512 bits 0.0010s 0.0001s 1023.5 11458.3 00:04 < SMP> rsa 1024 bits 0.0049s 0.0003s 203.9 3751.1 00:04 < SMP> rsa 2048 bits 0.0293s 0.0009s 34.1 1125.1 00:04 < SMP> rsa 4096 bits 0.2007s 0.0031s 5.0 321.3 00:04 < SMP> sign verify sign/s verify/s 00:04 < SMP> dsa 512 bits 0.0008s 0.0010s 1240.6 1032.0 00:04 < SMP> dsa 1024 bits 0.0026s 0.0030s 391.0 333.8 00:04 < SMP> P4 2,4GHz 00:06 < SMP> oh, gee 00:06 < SMP> sign verify sign/s verify/s 00:06 < SMP> rsa 512 bits 0.0033s 0.0003s 304.3 3034.3 00:06 < SMP> rsa 1024 bits 0.0186s 0.0010s 53.9 972.5 00:06 < SMP> rsa 2048 bits 0.1223s 0.0037s 8.2 268.7 00:06 < SMP> rsa 4096 bits 0.8458s 0.0135s 1.2 74.0 00:06 < SMP> sign verify sign/s verify/s 00:06 < SMP> dsa 512 bits 0.0029s 0.0036s 340.1 281.1 00:06 < SMP> dsa 1024 bits 0.0100s 0.0122s 99.7 82.1 00:06 < SMP> OSX 10.2 on XServe 00:07 < rxr> SMP: you have one? or just remove access? 00:07 < SMP> just the one from the SF compile farm 00:08 < rxr> oh, ... 00:08 < SMP> it's ridicously slow 00:08 < rxr> btw, the athlon beats the PIV ... 00:09 < SMP> no surprise here 00:09 < rxr> here - neither 00:09 * SMP trying the SF CF Opteron 00:10 < rxr> hm - we should get ROCK user-compileable, so we can use their boxes and power to build CDs ... 00:11 < rxr> oh ! Or nightly distributed reference builds ... 00:11 < SMP> but I'd be curious to see how well a Pentium M performs 00:11 < rxr> yes, the Pentium M is not that bad ... 00:11 < rxr> have you one in range ? 00:12 < rxr> and (when we are at it) what happend to your Sony display ß 00:12 < SMP> yes, but it's running windows 00:13 < SMP> nothing happened with my Vaio's display yet - I hope to send it in later today 00:13 < rxr> ok, iBook -Os -mcpu=750 numbers should be ready, soon 00:13 < SMP> sign verify sign/s verify/s 00:13 < SMP> rsa 512 bits 0.0005s 0.0000s 2109.4 25804.1 00:13 < SMP> rsa 1024 bits 0.0025s 0.0001s 399.2 7856.1 00:13 < SMP> rsa 2048 bits 0.0155s 0.0004s 64.5 2285.3 00:13 < SMP> rsa 4096 bits 0.1032s 0.0016s 9.7 640.2 00:13 < SMP> sign verify sign/s verify/s 00:13 < SMP> dsa 512 bits 0.0004s 0.0005s 2228.6 1895.0 00:13 < SMP> dsa 1024 bits 0.0013s 0.0016s 754.5 620.7 00:13 < SMP> Opteron rules them all ... 00:14 < rxr> rsa 512 bits 0.0032s 0.0003s 316.5 3323.4 00:14 < rxr> rsa 1024 bits 0.0176s 0.0009s 56.8 1055.2 00:14 < rxr> rsa 2048 bits 0.1117s 0.0033s 9.0 305.1 00:14 < rxr> rsa 4096 bits 0.7558s 0.0117s 1.3 85.6 00:14 < rxr> sign verify sign/s verify/s 00:14 < rxr> dsa 512 bits 0.0028s 0.0035s 354.1 287.4 00:14 < rxr> dsa 1024 bits 0.0092s 0.0116s 108.9 85.9 00:14 < rxr> dsa 2048 bits 0.0318s 0.0404s 31.5 24.8 00:14 < SMP> no improvement ... 00:14 < rxr> not a difference :-( 00:19 < rxr> ^- ignore those 00:19 < rxr> accidently compiled with gcc-2.95.3 00:19 -!- Worf [~worf@i-113.vc-graz.ac.at] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.10"] 00:19 < rxr> ;-) 00:20 * rxr too bad when one has this all lying around while writing an article: 00:20 < rxr> bin-2.95.3 bin-3.0.4 bin-3.2.3 bin-3.3.3 bin-3.4.0 00:20 < rxr> and in some minutes also bin-gcc-3.5-20040523 00:20 * rxr rebuilding openssl w/ gcc-3.4 ... 00:33 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@dialin-212-144-062-022.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:33 < nzg> moin 00:33 < rxr> hm - tiny improvements: 00:34 < rxr> moin nzg 00:34 < rxr> rsa 512 bits 0.0030s 0.0003s 334.7 3476.5 00:34 < rxr> rsa 1024 bits 0.0167s 0.0009s 59.8 1096.1 00:34 < rxr> rsa 2048 bits 0.1086s 0.0032s 9.2 311.8 00:34 < rxr> rsa 4096 bits 0.7438s 0.0115s 1.3 87.0 00:34 < rxr> sign verify sign/s verify/s 00:34 < rxr> dsa 512 bits 0.0027s 0.0033s 365.9 301.4 00:34 < rxr> dsa 1024 bits 0.0089s 0.0108s 113.0 92.9 00:34 < rxr> dsa 2048 bits 0.0309s 0.0373s 32.3 26.8 00:34 < nzg> moin rxr 00:54 < esden> cu all 00:54 -!- esden is now known as esden|zZz 00:54 < nzg> n8 esden 00:59 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@dialin-212-144-062-022.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Money underrun - Disconnecting..."] 01:00 < rxr> compiled with -O2 instead -Os the iBook gets some more bits/s ... 01:00 < rxr> now trying the difference with -funit-at-a-time -ftracer ... 01:13 -!- kasc [kasc@dsl-082-083-047-120.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 01:16 -!- kasc [kasc@dsl-213-023-189-205.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:17 < rxr> hm - those are all no wonders: -O2 -mcpu=750 -ftracer -funit-at-a-time 01:17 < rxr> (iBook @800Mhz): 01:17 < rxr> rsa 512 bits 0.0029s 0.0003s 341.9 3500.9 01:17 < rxr> rsa 1024 bits 0.0166s 0.0009s 60.2 1110.2 01:17 < rxr> rsa 2048 bits 0.1040s 0.0030s 9.6 327.9 01:17 < rxr> rsa 4096 bits 0.7071s 0.0110s 1.4 91.0 01:17 < rxr> sign verify sign/s verify/s 01:17 < rxr> dsa 512 bits 0.0025s 0.0031s 392.5 322.2 01:17 < rxr> dsa 1024 bits 0.0084s 0.0103s 119.3 97.5 01:17 < rxr> dsa 2048 bits 0.0289s 0.0363s 34.6 27.6 01:18 < daja77> re 01:20 < rxr> hm - a PowerPC gcc-2.95.3 gzip is faster .-( 01:22 < rxr> bzip2, too ... 01:22 < rxr> damn 01:22 < SMP> =) 01:22 < rxr> my benchmarks get ridiculous results 02:03 -!- blokkie [~blokkie@83-134-88-58.Kortrijk.GoPlus.FastDSL.tiscali.be] has joined #rocklinux 03:15 < SMP> hmm 03:41 -!- blokkie [~blokkie@83-134-88-58.Kortrijk.GoPlus.FastDSL.tiscali.be] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:55 -!- blokkie [~blokkie@83-134-88-58.Kortrijk.GoPlus.FastDSL.tiscali.be] has joined #rocklinux 03:59 -!- LowLander [erwin@pD9EBE784.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:02 -!- blindy_ [~blindcode@pD9E4F42B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:02 -!- blindy [~blindcode@pD9E4FF8A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 04:02 -!- blindy_ is now known as blindy 04:24 < mnemoc> re 04:27 < blokkie> wb 04:32 -!- LowLander [erwin@p54802273.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:46 -!- blokkie [~blokkie@83-134-88-58.Kortrijk.GoPlus.FastDSL.tiscali.be] has quit ["Leaving"] 06:04 -!- tfing_ [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-3-84.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 06:20 -!- tfing [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-3-118.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:20 -!- tfing_ is now known as tfing 07:36 -!- lowy [erwin@pD9EBFAC1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 07:54 -!- LowLander [erwin@p54802273.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:09 < blindy> moin 08:41 -!- BoS [~BoS@dialin-145-254-169-242.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:57 < _Vr_> moOo0oOo0o 08:58 < blindy> a MCD-Cow 08:59 < blindy> gotta get to work 08:59 < blindy> bbl 09:14 < _Vr_> i think project admin can update dev version to 2.1 on freshmeat site 09:49 -!- Frederic [~christian@pD95304B4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:54 -!- christian_ [~christian@pD9E390D9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 10:15 -!- Worf [~worf@i-113.vc-graz.ac.at] has joined #rocklinux 10:35 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EABE69.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:43 < tcr> moin all 10:55 < _Vr_> moin tcr 11:15 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8D5C7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 11:20 -!- blokkie [~blokkie@83-134-88-58.Kortrijk.GoPlus.FastDSL.tiscali.be] has joined #rocklinux 11:24 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8CF20.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 11:28 -!- tcr [~tcr@pD9EABE69.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:37 -!- christian_ [~christian@pD9E39AEE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:52 -!- Frederic [~christian@pD95304B4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Client Quit] 11:57 -!- lowy is now known as LowLander 11:58 < rxr> re 11:59 < blokkie> wb 12:00 * netrunner @linuxwoche.at 12:13 < jsaw> hi all 12:13 < blindy> hi all 12:13 < jsaw> :) 12:14 < rxr> ok - now I even have this one on my iBook: 12:14 < rxr> g++ (GCC) 3.5.0 20040523 (experimental) 12:15 < blindy> nice 12:15 -!- all [~andreas@62.173.152.106] has joined #rocklinux 12:15 < all> hi jsaw, blindy :) 12:15 < blindy> why did I expech that? :) 12:15 < all> :P 12:15 < daja77> rxr: is this a good idea? 12:16 < rxr> not as system compiler 12:16 -!- all is now known as net_at 12:17 < daja77> net_at: how is it over there? 12:17 < net_at> daja77: hm ... not much happening here, will try a presentation now. 12:18 < rxr> net_at: greetins to clifford, if he is around ... 12:18 < net_at> jup 12:18 < daja77> from me too 12:19 < daja77> ah you doin the presentation agian ;) 12:19 < net_at> no, I'll be in the audience :) 12:19 < jsaw> hi net_at 12:19 < daja77> oh hf 12:19 < daja77> hi jsaw 12:35 < rxr> ouhm 12:35 < rxr> gcc-3.0.4 builds faster than all the others ... 12:35 < rxr> interesting ... 12:37 * blindy gone 12:37 < _Vr_> where is the iso after building ? :) 12:38 < rxr> ./scripts/Create-ISO -cfg cfg-nam 12:38 < rxr> cfg-name even 12:39 < _Vr_> *touss* *touss* 12:39 * _Vr_ is flying in the sky 12:39 < _Vr_> you don't see me 12:39 < _Vr_> :) 12:40 < rxr> hm? 12:40 * _Vr_ don't rtfm at all 12:40 < _Vr_> :/ 12:45 < jsaw> hi daja77 12:47 < rxr> jsaw: hi 12:48 < _Vr_> hum 12:48 < _Vr_> cat: build//isofs.txt: No such file or directory 12:50 < rxr> did you specify a -cfg to ./scripts/config ? 12:51 < rxr> I guess not, so just run 12:51 < rxr> ./scripts/Create-ISO 12:51 < rxr> without -cfg argument 12:51 < rxr> I guess you specified a wrong one .. 12:51 < _Vr_> # ./scripts/Create-ISO 12:51 < _Vr_> Usage: ./scripts/Create-ISO [ -size MB ] [ -source ] [ -mkdebug ] ISO-Prefix \ 12:51 < _Vr_> Config [ Config [ .. ] ] 12:51 < _Vr_> E.g.: ./scripts/Create-ISO mycdset install generic 12:51 < _Vr_> hum 12:52 < rxr> ah - yes, this one wants a config 12:53 < rxr> ./scripts/Create-ISO myrouter default 12:55 < _Vr_> [12:54:58 PM] Creating myrouter_cd1.iso ... 12:55 < _Vr_> [12:54:58 PM] Done. Have fun! 12:55 < _Vr_> thx rxr 12:55 < _Vr_> du -sh myrouter_cd1.iso 12:55 < _Vr_> 7.4M myrouter_cd1.iso 12:55 < blokkie> ./Build-Target on 64 end up : 12:55 < blokkie> /usr/bin/ld: /tmp/cceWKZqZ.o: relocation R_X86_64_32 can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC 12:55 < blokkie> /tmp/cceWKZqZ.o: could not read symbols: Bad value 12:55 < blokkie> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 12:58 * rxr now running my preleminary benchmark suit with gcc (GCC) 3.5.0 20040523 (experimental) 12:58 < jsaw> rxr: hi 12:59 < netrunner> ugh, 3.5 13:01 -!- net_at [~andreas@62.173.152.106] has quit ["leaving"] 13:02 * jsaw now away for holidays, cu all soon 13:04 < netrunner> hm ... gcc34 built biaries run on a gcc32 built system ... is that normal? I thought they'd break compatibility somehow ... 13:05 < netrunner> anybody ever tried to package dsniff? or do we have an alternative? 13:10 < rxr> sure - normally they work 13:10 < rxr> only some rare C++ ABI stuff changed 13:10 < netrunner> ok. another proposition: 13:11 < netrunner> what about mail adress obfuscation in .desc? like sed -e s,@,AT, -e s,.,DOT, or something 13:12 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit ["leaving"] 13:23 < daja77> re 13:32 < blokkie> wb 13:43 -!- sabry80 [1000@host101-53.pool62211.interbusiness.it] has joined #rocklinux 13:43 < sabry80> hi to all..nobody knows anything about ps2linux blackrhino?:) 13:44 < daja77> hm? 13:45 < rxr> netrunner: no 13:45 < sabry80> is a linux distro for ps12 13:45 < sabry80> ps2 13:45 < sabry80> by debian 13:45 < sabry80> do you know debian? 13:45 < daja77> you mean playstation 2? 13:45 < rxr> yes - this is why we develop ROCK Linux ... 13:46 < sabry80> i mean playstation2 13:46 < rxr> netrunner: this does make zero sense - it is as easy for spammers to retransform them - they are just inconvenient 13:50 < daja77> sabry80: no we currently do not have a distro for playstation 2, iirc fake tried the mips port on one 14:15 -!- sabry80 [1000@host101-53.pool62211.interbusiness.it] has left #rocklinux ["Leaving"] 14:31 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: netcrow, Worf, kasc 14:32 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Worf, kasc, netcrow 14:32 -!- kasc [kasc@dsl-213-023-189-205.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:32 -!- netcrow [~netcrow@sigenv.arpa-net.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:32 -!- netcrow [~netcrow@213.239.198.75] has joined #rocklinux 14:32 -!- kasc_ [kasc@dsl-213-023-189-205.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:33 -!- kasc_ is now known as kasc 14:49 -!- blokkie [~blokkie@83-134-88-58.Kortrijk.GoPlus.FastDSL.tiscali.be] has quit ["Opinions are like assholes. Everybody's got one, but you don't have to share... be Evil [wink]"] 16:24 < rxr> all new compilers are quite bad for gzip ... 16:36 < daja77> .oO (note: compiling on macos sucks) 16:40 < rxr> why ? 16:41 < daja77> strange errors, and missing headers, which you can only get when upgrading to the latest macos release and stuff 16:41 < daja77> I begin to hate it 16:46 -!- tfing_ [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-3-84.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 16:46 < rxr> various compiler numbers: 16:46 < rxr> build times: 16:46 < rxr> https://rocklinux-consulting.de/stat-bt2.png 16:46 < rxr> run times: 16:46 < rxr> https://rocklinux-consulting.de/stat-rt2.png 16:47 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: tfing, Freak, kasc, SMP 16:47 -!- tfing_ is now known as tfing 16:47 < rxr> PowerPC G3@800Mhz 16:48 -!- Netsplit over, joins: kasc 17:00 -!- Freak [freak@helena.bawue.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:32 -!- nookie [~nookie@M489P014.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 18:18 -!- SMP_ [~stefanp@vanessa.wronline.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:20 -!- nookie_ [~nookie@M465P023.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 18:23 -!- nookie [~nookie@M489P014.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 18:30 -!- SMP_ is now known as SMP 18:36 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@pD9E8C75F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:47 -!- netrunner [~andreas@pD9E8D5C7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:14 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 19:14 < netrunner> re 19:14 < daja77> wb netrunner 19:29 -!- bfinch|away [~bfinch@12-222-102-200.client.insightBB.com] has joined #rocklinux 19:29 < bfinch|away> I SERIOUSLY doubt rock linuyx is better than sex.... 19:31 < daja77> have you tried both? 19:33 < bfinch|away> HAHA 19:34 < _Vr_> :) 19:35 < _Vr_> how to know the name of the maintener of a package ? 19:35 * netrunner just walked around in vienna all day (which started at about 1pm ;) 19:36 < daja77> mine -p packagename 19:36 < netrunner> _Vr_: mine -p <package> 19:36 < netrunner> damn ;) 19:36 < _Vr_> i'm don't on rock currently 19:36 < daja77> hehe 19:36 < _Vr_> s/don't/not/ 19:37 < daja77> cat package/*/packagename/packagename.desc 19:37 < dsoul> _Vr_ https://www.rocklinux.net/packages 19:37 < _Vr_> ok ok 19:37 < _Vr_> Maintainer: Alejandro Mery <amery@geeks.cl> 19:37 < _Vr_> who is it ? 19:37 < daja77> mnemoc 19:37 < _Vr_> mnemoc: ? 19:38 < daja77> please do not paste mail adresses 19:38 < _Vr_> sorry 19:38 < _Vr_> it is on web site 19:38 < _Vr_> so bot can easily see it so 19:38 < daja77> yes mnemoc, who is currently not here 19:38 < _Vr_> ok 19:39 < _Vr_> i would like to request update 19:39 < _Vr_> of openvpn package 19:39 < daja77> sen him a mail 19:39 < daja77> send 19:40 < _Vr_> ok 19:40 < _Vr_> thx 19:42 -!- esden|zZz is now known as esden|bbl 19:47 -!- georg_e_s [~georg@M325P009.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 19:55 -!- esden|bbl is now known as esden 19:55 < esden> gday 19:56 < daja77> hi esden 19:58 < esden> hi daja77 19:59 * esden is falling asleep 19:59 < daja77> i am sort of tired too 20:01 -!- BoS_ [~BoS@dialin-145-254-169-101.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:12 -!- BoS [~BoS@dialin-145-254-169-242.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 20:30 < esden> ok ... I go home 20:30 < esden> cu guys 20:31 -!- esden is now known as esden|zZz 20:35 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: owl, Freak, th_, bfinch|away, snyke, BoS_ 20:35 -!- Netsplit over, joins: BoS_, bfinch|away, Freak, snyke, owl, th_ 21:00 < netrunner> sorry btw, I stopped clifford's regressiontester because it has a noisy fan. 21:01 < netrunner> will be back online tomorrow :) 21:09 < daja77> hehe 21:10 < _Vr_> if i mount an iso of rock linux and i chroot into him and i install a package, does it work ? 21:11 < daja77> O_o 21:12 < _Vr_> :) 21:12 < daja77> why chroor into an iso? 21:12 < daja77> chroot 21:12 < _Vr_> to install a package definitely 21:12 < _Vr_> router cd 21:13 < daja77> you don't need chroot for that 21:13 < _Vr_> ? 21:13 < _Vr_> how to do this ? 21:14 < daja77> mine -i -R $rootdir package.gem 21:17 < _Vr_> yes but i'm not on rock linux to do that 21:17 < daja77> you could install mine on teh host system 21:35 -!- MadTux [~mike@master.hack-solutions.com] has joined #rocklinux 21:35 < MadTux> Greetings 21:36 < _Vr_> Hello --- Log opened Fri May 28 22:01:41 2004 22:01 < daja77> echo reply 22:02 < rxr> ah - ok now irssi logs again 22:04 < netrunner> xchat 22:04 < rxr> xchat what ? 22:04 < rxr> no x no xchat ... 22:05 < netrunner> my gf had my laptop in her hands and wanted to chat ;) 22:06 < rxr> ah - ok - I thought it was an advice to downgrade to xchat ;-) 22:10 < SMP> rxr: Pentium M 1.5 GHz is about 10% faster than my Mobile P4 2.4 GHz for openssl speed rsa dsa 22:12 < rxr> yeah - nice 22:12 < rxr> SMP: did you saw my new graphs @ rocklinux-consulting.de ? 22:12 < blindy> ok, I've done my work for today 22:12 < blindy> good night! 22:12 < rxr> n8 blindy 22:12 < rxr> https://rocklinux-consulting.de/stat-rt3.png 22:12 < rxr> https://rocklinux-consulting.de/stat-bt3.png 22:12 < rxr> update already in progress 22:13 < rxr> ^- those are for PowerPC G3 22:13 < rxr> x86 will follow 22:15 < rxr> I'm very open for comments 22:15 < SMP> bbl 22:15 < rxr> and I'll open the benchmark when it is more sorted / cleaned up 22:27 < netrunner> arg, already had 2 binaries today that refused to work with glibc <2.3.4 :/ 22:28 * netrunner off for today ... n8 22:43 < rxr> netrunner: are you at home or in vienna ? 22:50 < _Vr_> how to mount initrd.img file ? 22:55 -!- bfinch_ [~bfinch@12-222-102-200.client.insightBB.com] has joined #rocklinux 22:57 < bfinch_> um.....i am reading the rock handbook and a lot of information comparing rock to "other" distros is overstated... 22:57 < bfinch_> is the author around right now ? 22:58 < rxr> maybe ... 22:58 < daja77> *gg* 22:58 < rxr> but the handbook does not compare with other distributions very often 22:58 < rxr> I think there is only one place 22:59 < rxr> and a two tiny notes during the network config 22:59 < bfinch_> well actually several places in the first third 22:59 < _Vr_> rxr: you know how to ? 23:00 < _Vr_> mount 23:00 < _Vr_> .... 23:00 < bfinch_> by using the "other" nome... 23:00 < LowLander> how can i disable packages ? 23:00 < rxr> LowLander: e.g. in the ./scripts/config 23:00 < rxr> LowLander: or when you create a target in the target config.in 23:00 < rxr> _Vr_: mount what where ? 23:01 < LowLander> when i select for example KDE-Package Options , there is nothing mouch to select or deselect 23:01 < bfinch_> mount /jo/mama /mnt/hd/jo/mama 23:01 < _Vr_> rxr: how to mount initrd.img file ? 23:01 < LowLander> so no posibility to tune package selection from the TUI ? 23:01 < rxr> nope this is globally done 23:01 < rxr> sure selection 23:01 < rxr> use select "Custom package slections" 23:01 < rxr> and then enter the rules ... 23:01 < bfinch_> rxr: so are u the author of the handbook ? 23:02 < rxr> bfinch_: yes - mostly 23:02 < bfinch_> we should talk privately then....can we do that here on irc ? 23:02 < LowLander> rxr and than ? 23:02 < rxr> when you do not want kde: 23:02 < rxr> O kde* 23:02 < rxr> I think 23:03 < rxr> (have not done this for some days ... 23:03 < rxr> _Vr_: uncompress it with gzip 23:03 < rxr> _Vr_: and then loopback mount it (IIRC) 23:03 < LowLander> ok thats not very friendly ;-) 23:03 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@dialin-212-144-062-239.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:03 < _Vr_> hum it is gunzipped ? 23:03 < _Vr_> ok 23:03 < _Vr_> i begin to understand 23:04 < nzg> moin 23:04 < LowLander> btw why is there a link back to the parent menu in every menu 23:04 < LowLander> ? 23:05 < LowLander> like in Edit package selection rules the first item is : Edit package selection rules 23:05 < LowLander> and that will jump back to the main menu 23:08 < rxr> ohm - that is a problem with the current implementation 23:09 < rxr> when you hit enter on entiers that are just informational you will go back ... 23:09 < LowLander> ah 23:10 < LowLander> than the ===> is a bit confusing 23:10 < LowLander> since it looks liek the arrow in the main menu 23:10 < LowLander> and there it is a menu entry 23:25 -!- tfing_ [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-3-84.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 23:37 -!- bfinch_ [~bfinch@12-222-102-200.client.insightBB.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:39 -!- bfinch_ [~bfinch@12-222-102-200.client.insightBB.com] has joined #rocklinux 23:46 -!- tfing [~tfing@APoitiers-103-1-3-84.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:46 -!- tfing_ is now known as tfing 23:54 -!- bfinch_ [~bfinch@12-222-102-200.client.insightBB.com] has left #rocklinux ["Client exiting"] 23:54 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@dialin-212-144-062-239.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:57 -!- MadTux [~mike@master.hack-solutions.com] has quit ["cya"] --- Log closed Sat May 29 00:00:49 2004